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Title: [IC]Go-fit60, A 60% Bluetooth 5.0 Barebones Kit, GB is in progress
Post by: entergogo on Sun, 14 July 2019, 05:31:22
Updates on August 15, 2021

We just initiated the GB on Go-fit60! Check it out here: [GB] “Go-fit60,” A 60% Bluetooth 5.0 Barebones Mechanical Keyboard Kit, starts from US$89.00, GB starts on Aug 15, 2021 EST (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114214.0)



Updates on August 10, 2021

We gathered some new pictures of the prototype:
 
(https://i.imgur.com/uEyTPtG.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8MznYJn.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rLDaLMI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pUUzxY9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/j8QorDp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/uZTnZKw.jpg)
 
More pictures at https://imgur.com/a/cAWXkPi
 
Here’s the video that will give you a quick walk-through on go-fit60's sound with two kinds of switches - TTC red switch and Gateron blue switch:


TIMELINE
GB starts on August 15, 2021, with a new GB post, but we will also update here.
 
PRICING
We made a slight adjustment to the pricing. The price will start from USD$89.00. Detail will be announced in GB.
 
entergogo




Updates on April 17, 2021

Hi from entergogo,
 
Hope you guys are staying safe and healthy. We know it’s been a longggg day since the latest update. Here’s a brief of what we have working on since the last update on this discussion page. We regrouped the team, designed and launched the first generation Go-popper, a 2-in-1 Aluminum Switch Opener (Interested in? You can find out more here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110730.0))


More than that, we tried to break through the technical difficulty we identified during the past one-year exploration, studies, and development on Go-fit60, which is the new official name of the GG60 barebones kit. We’ve been receiving many cares and greetings during the past several months, so we think it’s time to go for the next chapter.
 
We notice that some of you also mentioned in the previous discussion if the purchase of the kit can be more flexible and whether the PCB was available for being purchased separately and inclusively. The answer to these questions is 100% a YES. Meanwhile, two types of PCB are available for the selection--with or without RGB lights.
 
The purchase on Go-fit60 kit has four options:
Option 1: The original kit includes 1 PCB (RGB enabled), 1 plate, and 1 aluminum case
Also contains 1 set of cherry stabilizers and 1 set screws
(switches and keycaps are not included in the kit)
Option 2: The original kit includes 1 PCB (no RGB), 1 plate, and 1 aluminum case
Also contains 1 set of cherry stabilizers and 1 set screws
(switches and keycaps are not included in the kit)
Option 3: 1 PCB with RGB
Option 4: 1 PCB does not have RGB

 
Go-fit60 e-white & black aluminum case and PCB overview (with keycaps and switches)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZLoZd5J.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LCgKnO2.jpg)
 
The black & e-white aluminum case
(https://i.imgur.com/pjLxgWr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vd7GiV9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bdZ29tQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Qu2NOxa.jpg)


One significant adjustment was applied.
The initial ideal software design of PCB is Bluetooth 5.0 enabled plus the QMK setting. However, after almost one year of researching, engineering, adjusting, and prototyping, we found that this combination is currently not thoroughly well-developed and mature enough in the whole market. It is actually being identified as a very challenging technical barrier by most of the professionals we had lots of discussions with, and we are still on our way to solve it with a satisfying answer. However, at the moment, we have to regrettably announce that the PCB contained in the kit will not realize the combination of these two features.
 
As a result, we decided to keep the Bluetooth 5.0 and replace the QMK with a driver temporarily. Although this combination cannot be applied to the kit, we firmly believe that the demand for a full-case remapping is nonnegligible for the community. That’s why a driver is our alternative decision, which also provides the option of the full-keys customizable keyboard setting.
 


The PCB
(https://i.imgur.com/77Bk46O.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zcfNAQ7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2oxDIdw.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EdQ1o3q.jpg)

Besides, during the prototyping and the previous IC collection, we realized that the battery capacity is another killing point for a Bluetooth-enabled mechanical keyboard, especially when the initial sample tested during the prototyping could only hold an 800mAh lithium battery, leading to some feedback we received regarding the duration of it. Therefore, we decided to upgrade the battery capacity to 3500mAh, which sustains a much longer working duration. Accordingly, the high frequency of charging the keyboard will not be a concern with Go-fit60 under a larger battery capacity.
 


Features of the kit

Specs

In the previous IC of Go-fit60, only black and red were provided as the case and plate color options. However, through the comments and feedback that we gathered from the IC, black, space grey, and e-white were the colors being wanted and loved the most. Therefore, we made a slight adjustment on the color selection by replacing the red variant with the space grey and e-white options.

More details on the Pre-soldered PCB


Go-fit60 with keycaps & switches

(https://i.imgur.com/ZFUgWg7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rleSr9x.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CN7akuI.jpg)
 
Go-fit60 type-c charging port and bluetooth button
(https://i.imgur.com/WfQTK6e.jpg)
 
TIMELINE
TBA
 
The form used to collect and gather IC will no longer receive responses as soon as we update this notice here. The new GB form will soon be posted if everything is on the right track.
 
PRICING
We put a lot of effort into this project since early 2019 before we initially started designing and producing Go-poppers. Many of you may recall that the first IC was posted one year ago, and after that, we faced some challenges over the past two years, including the unexpected COVID-19. The original idea of introducing Go-fit60 was to offering a barebone kit that is made with better raw materials, representing higher quality and durability, and therefore can be regarded as an alternative replacement of plastic-made case for intense typing workload. Keeping this in mind, we lower the pricing of the kit over the GB with our best effort over conversations and negotiations with the factory and warehouse.
 
Finally, we all agreed that during the GB, although the cost of the raw material of the e-white Go-popper is relatively higher than the others, it will have the same price as the kit of black and space grey Go-fit60. Also, we decided to waive the cost of the production on the PCB that is enabled with RGB, making it the exact pricing as the regular PCB with no RGB lights support.

 
The GB will be held for 20 days in total, and three different prices will be assigned to 1 kit and 1 PCB, respectively, for the first 3 days, the 4th to 10th day, and the last 10 days.
(https://i.imgur.com/WAKERuL.png)

SHIPPING
All orders will be conducted and shipped by entergogo directly from the factory.
 
ANY QUESTIONS?
Any questions, thoughts, or concerns about this event or us, please post them here or reach out to us directly at hi@entergogo.com. Many thanks to everyone in the community for your unconditional support.

Be sure to check the discussion page for updates.

entergogo



Updates on Sep 25

As with the last update, we had a hard time with the QMK+ Bluetooth testing process, and after another period of time we were still unable to work out some of the bugs, and while it may disappoint some people, we have to be honest and say that we have decided that the GG60 does not support QMK, and we will still be using the Bluetooth 5.0 solution. We are already redesigning the PCB to speed up the product launch.

Here is the latest product details:
The GG60 kit came from an original idea to make a powerful and minimalist mechanical keyboard for working on the go.

Features

Spec.

Pre-soldered PCB

Fill out IC form if you're new here;) (https://forms.gle/k5vH7xjbqYUuQ48dA)

www.entergogo.com
Discord link: https://discord.gg/u63xJht
Discord name: entergogo#2512

Important updates on July 31
After some struggle and trade-offs, we decided to go with Bluetooth 4.0 + QMK instead of the originally planned Bluetooth 5.0 + QMK.We feel sorry about this, especially for who has an expectation on Bluetooth 5.0.

Either Bluetooth alone or QMK is very easy to implement, but Bluetooth + QMK is not.

After months of trial and talking to industry solution experts, we found that implementing Bluetooth 5.0+QMK was very difficult and beyond our team's current capabilities.

In fact, Bluetooth 4.0+QMK is a very good solution, at least for now, it is more stable and the user experience is almost the same as Bluetooth 5.0.

In short, we don't want to launch Bluetooth 5.0 + QMK when it's not fully ready.

Next, we need a little more time to finish the rest of the work and then officially launch the GG60 Kit. (GB coming soon...)

Fill out IC form if you're new here;) (https://forms.gle/k5vH7xjbqYUuQ48dA)

www.entergogo.com
Discord link: https://discord.gg/u63xJht
Discord name: entergogo#2512

Updates for the GG60 and initial GB

GG60 Kits include as follows. (switches and keycaps are not included in the kit)

Features
QMK / Hotswap with Kailh socket / Bluetooth 5.0 / Alu Case / Type-C port / Charging indicator

Other information

Fill out IC form if you have an interest:)  (https://forms.gle/k5vH7xjbqYUuQ48dA)

www.entergogo.com
Discord link: https://discord.gg/u63xJht
Discord name: entergogo#2512


Update on 9th Apr 2020
Hey Guys,

Regarding switch direction, we can make a change on the PCB now, we made it north-facing before, but we heard from the community that will cause the issue of caps interference.
North-facing or south-facing, please let me know your ideas(comments). We appreciate.

Fill out IC form if you have an interest:)  (https://forms.gle/k5vH7xjbqYUuQ48dA)



Update on 9th Mar 2020

Hey Geekhackers!

I'm Chao! There are new updates, as we had a meeting with my partner and our supplier yesterday. We are testing BT4.2 and BT5.0 at the same time, we are planning to finish the testing work within March, then probably we can get the final PCB and other kits in April. Yeah, we are so excited to see the GG60 kit coming out in the near future as you guys.

(https://i.imgur.com/FunDbwP.jpg)

Please fill out IC form if you have an interest:)  (https://forms.gle/k5vH7xjbqYUuQ48dA)

Update on 19th Feb 2020 Please fill out IC form if you have an interest:)  (https://forms.gle/k5vH7xjbqYUuQ48dA)
Hi everyone,

Since my team is based in Shenzhen China, due to the effects of coronavirus, we are not allowed to work in the office. Now we are not sure when the damn coronavirus is gone, as long as it finished, we will release the GG60 asap.

Update on Dec 25 2019 Please fill out IC form if you have an interest:)  (https://forms.gle/k5vH7xjbqYUuQ48dA)
Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas!

Actually there is nothing new to update about the product, we met some problems on the PCB earlier, we just to let you know that the project is still on the wheel, stay tuned!

Prototype Update on Oct 09 Please fill out IC form if you have an interest:)  (https://forms.gle/k5vH7xjbqYUuQ48dA)
(https://i.imgur.com/pHSE0hR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/z9Zm7bb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/z5bsbx2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SlCOpXG.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZhjicEX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5fvi6u8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZJruAfK.jpg)
Check More Photos (https://imgur.com/gallery/o3ycaRB)

Keyboard total weight: 900g / 2 pounds

PCB Features

GB will be started around Nov, the exact date will be announced here!

Please fill out IC form if you have an interest:)  (https://forms.gle/k5vH7xjbqYUuQ48dA)


New Updates on Sep 17, new PCB is on testing
(https://i.imgur.com/eb18CeH.jpg)

Hi, sorry for updating late, the PCB is still on progress, as the previous test didn't meet our requirements, we are hurrying up to test the new PCB, hopefully, we can get the final keyboard kit sample before Sep 25, then we can start the GB around Sep 30. I will keep you all updated.

PCB includes:

Fill in this form if have an interest:)  (https://forms.gle/k5vH7xjbqYUuQ48dA)



Price updated on July 23, 2019
GG60-Pro is a minimalist mechanical keyboard kit, it is designed for the people who like portable and small keyboards, the wireless function quite fit for the people who like travel and work mobile, one charge can last over 2 months.

We hope more and more people can enjoy a premium custom mechanical keyboard. So we tried our best to make it an affordable custom keyboard kit, only $99 for the basic kit.


New Renders, Updated on July 19, 2019
(https://i.imgur.com/3Ltd0x2.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/YJpKbhE.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/26crWqn.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/JTvXdH5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qsyA9Zu.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/HYcH4YT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jrwGJ3T.jpg)

More renders https://imgur.com/gallery/hRbvRTt

LAST POST: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101368.0

Hi guys, we get the 3D print sample on July 5, we felt that both the right and left edge part could be narrower and it looked more concise and generous. As well, we adjusted the indicator light to the upper right corner of the keyboard and placed the charging port on the top left of the keyboard. Then we made several renders for reference.

Design
Minimalist Design for 60% MK Enthusiast.

Why the name: ‘GG’ from the brand name ‘entergogo’, 60 means 60%.

Features

Spec

Pricing - USD (Free assemble)

Timeline

MOQ: 50 kits

please check the link if you have an interest.  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% wireless custom kit - Updated July 14, 2019
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 15 July 2019, 20:25:19
Any photos of the PCB?  Are the switches facing with the logo upside down or right side up?  Can the case accommodate other GH60 compatible PCBs? 
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% wireless custom kit - Updated July 14, 2019
Post by: entergogo on Mon, 15 July 2019, 22:20:30
Hi, thank you for your questions.

1. Sorry, so far no PCB photos, we just finished the PCB design, our partner is making the PCB sample for us, hopefully, we can get the PCB sample July 31, will keep you updated.
2. The switches facing the logo is upside down, which one do you prefer?
3. Honestly, we haven't tested it on other PCBs, but I think the case is hardly compatible with other 60% PCBs unless the PCBs have the same functions with GG60-Pro.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% wireless custom kit - Updated July 14, 2019
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 15 July 2019, 22:36:39
Hi, thank you for your questions.

1. Sorry, so far no PCB photos, we just finished the PCB design, our partner is making the PCB sample for us, hopefully, we can get the PCB sample July 31, will keep you updated.
2. The switches facing the logo is upside down, which one do you prefer?
3. Honestly, we haven't tested it on other PCBs, but I think the case is hardly compatible with other 60% PCBs unless the PCBs have the same functions with GG60-Pro.


most people prefer the switches with the logo right-side up.  Upside down switches make contact with Cherry profile keycaps on a few rows.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% wireless custom kit - Updated July 14, 2019
Post by: entergogo on Mon, 15 July 2019, 23:09:20
I Got it, thank you very much! I will discuss it with my team.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% wireless custom kit - Updated July 14, 2019
Post by: evorus5 on Tue, 16 July 2019, 10:46:12
I agree on the keycaps being right side up.
Aside from that, it looks like a nice premium entry board and I'm totally in for this.
This could be my travel board  :)
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% wireless custom kit - Updated July 14, 2019
Post by: entergogo on Tue, 16 July 2019, 10:59:28
Thank you for your comment!
Please fill in the form if you want to be kept updated. https://forms.gle/k5vH7xjbqYUuQ48dA
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Wireless Custom Kit - Renders and Price Updated
Post by: macinstein on Sun, 04 August 2019, 00:32:38
Looking forward to the pcb design as well! I really hope that the pcb is compatible with hhkb layout. Also, will the pcb be hotswap? please be hhkb compatible with not hotswap lol
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Wireless Custom Kit - Renders and Price Updated
Post by: entergogo on Sun, 04 August 2019, 01:03:48
Looking forward to the pcb design as well! I really hope that the pcb is compatible with hhkb layout. Also, will the pcb be hotswap? please be hhkb compatible with not hotswap lol
Thanks for your comment! The PCB will be released around Aug 15. Unfortunately it’s not compatible with hhkb layout. The pcb will be hotswap:)
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Wireless Custom Kit - Renders and Price Updated
Post by: IvarLJ on Sun, 04 August 2019, 02:52:21
This fills what I consider a big gap in the market: portable, wireless & hotswap mechs. QMK support is the cherry on the top. Good job!

Having said that, 2 (hopefully constructive) criticisms:

- Why settle for Bluetooth 3 which is at least 2-3 generations old? Newer versions have less energy consumption and better/more stable links. Is it a price based decision?

- Less consequential, but at least one more color option would be appreciated. It’s a matter of personal taste, but my vote would go for silver or grey.

Cheers


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Wireless Custom Kit - Renders and Price Updated
Post by: entergogo on Sun, 04 August 2019, 04:30:11
This fills what I consider a big gap in the market: portable, wireless & hotswap mechs. QMK support is the cherry on the top. Good job!

Having said that, 2 (hopefully constructive) criticisms:

- Why settle for Bluetooth 3 which is at least 2-3 generations old? Newer versions have less energy consumption and better/more stable links. Is it a price based decision?

- Less consequential, but at least one more color option would be appreciated. It’s a matter of personal taste, but my vote would go for silver or grey.

Cheers


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Thank you for your comments! Constructive for sure!
We were told Bluetooth 3.0 is more stable, new version was reported lost connection sometimes, but we will test it on our own, will updated here.

Okay, will consider add one more color option if more people like silver or grey. We will discuss this with our cooperated factory.

Many thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Wireless Custom Kit - Renders and Price Updated
Post by: ericrosenfield on Sun, 04 August 2019, 15:08:09
Really looking forward to this keyboard. Right now the only 60% hotswap bluetooth board I know of is the GK61S, and it’s not that great. Having something with QMK would be a dream.

Any idea when the GB will begin?
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Wireless Custom Kit - Renders and Price Updated
Post by: entergogo on Sun, 04 August 2019, 17:40:40
Really looking forward to this keyboard. Right now the only 60% hotswap bluetooth board I know of is the GK61S, and it’s not that great. Having something with QMK would be a dream.

Any idea when the GB will begin?
Thank you for your comments!
We were planning to start the GB around Aug 20 to Sep 10. Will keep updated here when we have the final GB date.

Cheers,
Sean


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Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Wireless Custom Kit - Renders and Price Updated
Post by: vicissitude on Sun, 04 August 2019, 17:55:07
The wireless kit is always welcome,especially on custom keebs.
Wish it stable and respond quickly.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Wireless Custom Kit - Renders and Price Updated
Post by: entergogo on Sun, 04 August 2019, 18:19:16
The wireless kit is always welcome,especially on custom keebs.
Wish it stable and respond quickly.
Thank you for your comments!
Please fill in a form if you have an interest https://forms.gle/k5vH7xjbqYUuQ48dA. You will be keep updated.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Wireless Custom Kit - Renders and Price Updated
Post by: lush_bunny on Sat, 10 August 2019, 02:28:39
Love everything about this. It’ll be absolutely perfect if I could order along some orange healios but that’s just nitpicking. Will be participating in the GB.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Wireless Custom Kit - Renders and Price Updated
Post by: entergogo on Sat, 10 August 2019, 09:32:40
Love everything about this. It’ll be absolutely perfect if I could order along some orange healios but that’s just nitpicking. Will be participating in the GB.

Thank you for liking the GG60-Pro, which encourage us to make the product perfect! Please make sure you have filled the form https://forms.gle/k5vH7xjbqYUuQ48dA, you will be kept updated:)
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Wireless Custom Kit - Renders and Price Updated
Post by: lush_bunny on Thu, 15 August 2019, 13:20:47
Love everything about this. It’ll be absolutely perfect if I could order along some orange healios but that’s just nitpicking. Will be participating in the GB.

Thank you for liking the GG60-Pro, which encourage us to make the product perfect! Please make sure you have filled the form https://forms.gle/k5vH7xjbqYUuQ48dA, you will be kept updated:)

Any updates on this bad boy? Target GB date perhaps? I’ve got the perfect keycaps for this.  :)
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Wireless Custom Kit - Renders and Price Updated
Post by: entergogo on Fri, 16 August 2019, 00:49:01
Love everything about this. It’ll be absolutely perfect if I could order along some orange healios but that’s just nitpicking. Will be participating in the GB.

Thank you for liking the GG60-Pro, which encourage us to make the product perfect! Please make sure you have filled the form https://forms.gle/k5vH7xjbqYUuQ48dA, you will be kept updated:)

Any updates on this bad boy? Target GB date perhaps? I’ve got the perfect keycaps for this.  :)
Hi, GB time is still TBD, maybe the end of Aug 2019, we are hurrying up making the PCB, hopefully, we can release the PCB on Aug 24, then if everything goes smooth after testing, we will start the GB. Thank you for your patient! You will be kept updated as long as we got any progress.

Could you share me your keycaps? exciting to see:) (my email: chao@entergogo.com)
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Wireless Custom Kit - Renders and Price Updated
Post by: lush_bunny on Fri, 16 August 2019, 18:23:35
Love everything about this. It’ll be absolutely perfect if I could order along some orange healios but that’s just nitpicking. Will be participating in the GB.

Thank you for liking the GG60-Pro, which encourage us to make the product perfect! Please make sure you have filled the form https://forms.gle/k5vH7xjbqYUuQ48dA, you will be kept updated:)

Any updates on this bad boy? Target GB date perhaps? I’ve got the perfect keycaps for this.  :)
Hi, GB time is still TBD, maybe the end of Aug 2019, we are hurrying up making the PCB, hopefully, we can release the PCB on Aug 24, then if everything goes smooth after testing, we will start the GB. Thank you for your patient! You will be kept updated as long as we got any progress.

Could you share me your keycaps? exciting to see:) (my email: chao@entergogo.com)

Thanks for the fast response! Emailed you my options for this board :)
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Wireless Custom Kit - Renders and Price Updated
Post by: ilemondrop on Fri, 16 August 2019, 20:30:37
wow this looks too good to be true, I find the prices of kits to vary greatly, how do you guys get the price so low compared to other kits?
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Wireless Custom Kit - Renders and Price Updated
Post by: entergogo on Fri, 16 August 2019, 23:28:35
wow this looks too good to be true, I find the prices of kits to vary greatly, how do you guys get the price so low compared to other kits?

Thank you for your comments. Very good question!

Basically, we want to make the GG60-Pro a premium custom travel keyboard, of course, we can make it very expensive with complicated design and all trended functions. But we want to make it affordable to all mechanical keyboard enthusiasts. Here are examples of how we control the cost and make it affordable.

We make it a low profile case which is cheaper than a high profile case.
It has no back-lighting(RGB), as we thought the long battery charging circle is more important to a travel keyboard.

Another reason is we hope the GG60-Pro idea can come true, apparently, the low price is more competitive.


Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Wireless Custom Kit - Renders and Price Updated
Post by: entergogo on Sat, 24 August 2019, 05:19:00
Love everything about this. It’ll be absolutely perfect if I could order along some orange healios but that’s just nitpicking. Will be participating in the GB.

Thank you for liking the GG60-Pro, which encourage us to make the product perfect! Please make sure you have filled the form https://forms.gle/k5vH7xjbqYUuQ48dA, you will be kept updated:)

Any updates on this bad boy? Target GB date perhaps? I’ve got the perfect keycaps for this.  :)
Hi, GB time is still TBD, maybe the end of Aug 2019, we are hurrying up making the PCB, hopefully, we can release the PCB on Aug 24, then if everything goes smooth after testing, we will start the GB. Thank you for your patient! You will be kept updated as long as we got any progress.

Could you share me your keycaps? exciting to see:) (my email: chao@entergogo.com)

Thanks for the fast response! Emailed you my options for this board :)

Hey! Got new updates, please check the post when you free:)
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Wireless Custom Kit - Renders and Price Updated
Post by: lush_bunny on Sat, 24 August 2019, 20:06:42
Hey! Got new updates, please check the post when you free:)

Looking good! Excited for September 15 !

A few questions tho:
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Wireless Mech Keyboard Kit - PCB on progressing
Post by: entergogo on Sat, 24 August 2019, 22:47:27
Hey! Got new updates, please check the post when you free:)

Looking good! Excited for September 15 !

A few questions tho:
  • How much space is there between the bottom case and the PCB? I want to put some sort of dampening foam in between to eliminate some of the reverb.
  • Do you have a list of the Gateron and Cherry Switches you’ll be offering?
  • Do you have actual pics of the red case and plate? Interested in my options.

1. I'm going to check it and let you know next week.
2. Yes, will offering
Cherry MX brown, red and blue switches.
Kailh box brown and blue switches
Gateron blue, yellow and brown switches,
3. So far don't have actual pics of the case, but already request them to make samples, will update later.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Bluetooth Travel Board Kit - PCB on progressing (Aug 24, 2019)
Post by: macinstein on Sun, 25 August 2019, 23:06:13
Wow, the pcb looks promising, hopefully everything comes into fruition. Just wondering, judging form the pics will the pcb be using mill max hotswap sockets or kailh sockets or will just end up a solder pcb? really appreciate what you're doing here, a barebone bluetooth kit for $100USD is almost unbelievable
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Wireless Custom Kit - Renders and Price Updated
Post by: entergogo on Mon, 26 August 2019, 21:37:30
Hey! Got new updates, please check the post when you free:)

Looking good! Excited for September 15 !

A few questions tho:
  • How much space is there between the bottom case and the PCB? I want to put some sort of dampening foam in between to eliminate some of the reverb.
  • Do you have a list of the Gateron and Cherry Switches you’ll be offering?
  • Do you have actual pics of the red case and plate? Interested in my options.

Hi Mikko, space is 3.5mm between the bottom case and the PCB. Anything else?
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Bluetooth Travel Board Kit - PCB on progressing (Aug 24, 2019)
Post by: entergogo on Mon, 26 August 2019, 21:39:11
Wow, the pcb looks promising, hopefully everything comes into fruition. Just wondering, judging form the pics will the pcb be using mill max hotswap sockets or kailh sockets or will just end up a solder pcb? really appreciate what you're doing here, a barebone bluetooth kit for $100USD is almost unbelievable

Hi, thank you for your comments:)
We use Kailh sockets.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Wireless Custom Kit - Renders and Price Updated
Post by: lush_bunny on Mon, 26 August 2019, 23:23:05
Hi Mikko, space is 3.5mm between the bottom case and the PCB. Anything else?

Thanks! None that I can think of. Just waiting for September 15!
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Wireless Custom Kit - Renders and Price Updated
Post by: entergogo on Tue, 17 September 2019, 09:27:18
Hi Mikko, space is 3.5mm between the bottom case and the PCB. Anything else?

Thanks! None that I can think of. Just waiting for September 15!

Hi Mikko, new PCB is on testing, keep you updated.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Wireless Custom Kit - Renders and Price Updated
Post by: entergogo on Wed, 02 October 2019, 06:58:01
This fills what I consider a big gap in the market: portable, wireless & hotswap mechs. QMK support is the cherry on the top. Good job!

Having said that, 2 (hopefully constructive) criticisms:

- Why settle for Bluetooth 3 which is at least 2-3 generations old? Newer versions have less energy consumption and better/more stable links. Is it a price based decision?

- Less consequential, but at least one more color option would be appreciated. It’s a matter of personal taste, but my vote would go for silver or grey.

Cheers


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Hi there, we have updated the Bluetooth version to 5.0.
Thank you for your advice. GB time is still TBD, will keep you updated.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Bluetooth Hotswap Travel Board Kit (PCB on progress Sep 17)
Post by: IvarLJ on Wed, 02 October 2019, 13:50:13
This fills what I consider a big gap in the market: portable, wireless & hotswap mechs. QMK support is the cherry on the top. Good job!

Having said that, 2 (hopefully constructive) criticisms:

- Why settle for Bluetooth 3 which is at least 2-3 generations old? Newer versions have less energy consumption and better/more stable links. Is it a price based decision?

- Less consequential, but at least one more color option would be appreciated. It’s a matter of personal taste, but my vote would go for silver or grey.

Cheers


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Hi there, we have updated the Bluetooth version to 5.0.
Thank you for your advice. GB time is still TBD, will keep you updated.

Great to hear!

Looking forward to the GB!


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Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Wireless Custom Kit - Renders and Price Updated
Post by: entergogo on Wed, 09 October 2019, 01:25:03
Hey! Got new updates, please check the post when you free:)

Looking good! Excited for September 15 !

A few questions tho:
  • How much space is there between the bottom case and the PCB? I want to put some sort of dampening foam in between to eliminate some of the reverb.
  • Do you have a list of the Gateron and Cherry Switches you’ll be offering?
  • Do you have actual pics of the red case and plate? Interested in my options.
Hi Mikko, new updates of the product, actual pics have been uploaded. Please check.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Bluetooth Hotswap Travel Board Kit(Actual Photo Update Oct 09)
Post by: caonv on Wed, 09 October 2019, 02:28:21
 :D nice work!
I have seen photos of the prototype. The board is neat  :thumb: From the render photos, I saw 3 led indicators in the top right corner of the case. However, those leds disappeared in the prototype.  :o
With $99, I may be too greed to the feature of remembering multi devices and switch among them smoothly.  ::)
If you can provide a HHKB layout and multi-devices, I will 100% in even when the price increased to $150 ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Bluetooth Hotswap Travel Board Kit(Actual Photo Update Oct 09)
Post by: entergogo on Wed, 09 October 2019, 06:11:04
:D nice work!
I have seen photos of the prototype. The board is neat  :thumb: From the render photos, I saw 3 led indicators in the top right corner of the case. However, those leds disappeared in the prototype.  :o
With $99, I may be too greed to the feature of remembering multi devices and switch among them smoothly.  ::)
If you can provide a HHKB layout and multi-devices, I will 100% in even when the price increased to $150 ;D

Hey, thanks for your comments:)
Yes, there are still have 3 led indicators in the top right corner, you can see the PCB board, there got 3 marks, as some reasons, this plate didn't have the led holes, will light it up later.
The Bluetooth will support up to 3 devices, and you can switch among them freely.
Regarding HHKB layout, we definiately will make one if we hear enough voice. As you know, there are MOQs if we want to start a new layout. Otherwise the cost will be very very high.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Bluetooth Hotswap Travel Board Kit(Actual Photo Update Oct 09)
Post by: caonv on Wed, 09 October 2019, 06:43:03
:D nice work!
I have seen photos of the prototype. The board is neat  :thumb: From the render photos, I saw 3 led indicators in the top right corner of the case. However, those leds disappeared in the prototype.  :o
With $99, I may be too greed to the feature of remembering multi devices and switch among them smoothly.  ::)
If you can provide a HHKB layout and multi-devices, I will 100% in even when the price increased to $150 ;D

Hey, thanks for your comments:)
Yes, there are still have 3 led indicators in the top right corner, you can see the PCB board, there got 3 marks, as some reasons, this plate didn't have the led holes, will light it up later.
The Bluetooth will support up to 3 devices, and you can switch among them freely.
Regarding HHKB layout, we definiately will make one if we hear enough voice. As you know, there are MOQs if we want to start a new layout. Otherwise the cost will be very very high.
3 devices are enough for me  :p
Anyone who wants the HHKB layout please rise your hand  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Bluetooth Hotswap Travel Board Kit(Actual Photo Update Oct 09)
Post by: lush_bunny on Wed, 09 October 2019, 21:24:30
I love that red color <3
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Bluetooth Hotswap Travel Board Kit(Actual Photo Update Oct 09)
Post by: entergogo on Thu, 10 October 2019, 20:47:41
I love that red color <3
Great:) thank you!


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Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Bluetooth Hotswap Travel Board Kit(Actual Photo Update Oct 09)
Post by: Caktuss on Mon, 28 October 2019, 14:40:05
Any updates with this?
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Bluetooth Hotswap Travel Board Kit(Actual Photo Update Oct 09)
Post by: entergogo on Tue, 29 October 2019, 08:01:00
Any updates with this?
We are still working on the PCB, we have tested two versions, and fixed some bugs, we will test the 3rd version PCB next week, if everything works perfect, then the GB will be set.

As well, based on the IC form responses, we have decided the case/plate color options, keyboard layout and MOQ for the first round GB


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Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Bluetooth Hotswap Travel Board Kit(Actual Photo Update Oct 09)
Post by: lush_bunny on Tue, 29 October 2019, 12:05:38
As well, based on the IC form responses, we have decided the case/plate color options, keyboard layout and MOQ for the first round GB

Are you considering color options other than black/red?
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Bluetooth Hotswap Travel Board Kit(Actual Photo Update Oct 09)
Post by: entergogo on Tue, 29 October 2019, 20:26:01
As well, based on the IC form responses, we have decided the case/plate color options, keyboard layout and MOQ for the first round GB

Are you considering color options other than black/red?
Hey Mikko, only black and red for the 1st round GB, we do want to offer more color options for all friends, but from the view of a project, the most important thing is to make it rolling smoothly, not get things too complicated, so that’s our decision.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Bluetooth Hotswap Travel Board Kit(Actual Photo Update Oct 09)
Post by: LeoZ on Tue, 29 October 2019, 22:29:36
Does this PCB support kailh choc switches?
Title: Re: [IC] GG60-Pro 60% Bluetooth Hotswap Travel Board Kit(Actual Photo Update Oct 09)
Post by: entergogo on Wed, 30 October 2019, 02:17:23
Does this PCB support kailh choc switches?
Hi friend, YES, the PCB support Kailh choc switch, but have to use a 0.8mm thick plate, so far we only have 1.5mm thick plate (aluminum & brass)
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Prototype Photo Update Oct 09)
Post by: Caktuss on Tue, 19 November 2019, 15:42:38
any updates?
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Prototype Photo Update Oct 09)
Post by: entergogo on Wed, 20 November 2019, 06:33:49
any updates?

We are still optimizing the PCB, my partners told me the PCB will be ok at the end of November, I will keep you all updated.

Everything is possible, but nothing is easy! We are trying our best to make it not delay too long.


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Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Prototype Photo Update Oct 09)
Post by: caonv on Fri, 20 December 2019, 04:55:12
It's a while from the last reply. Is there any update?  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Prototype Photo Update Oct 09)
Post by: entergogo on Tue, 24 December 2019, 19:31:26
It's a while from the last reply. Is there any update?  ;D

Hey, yes, it's been quite a while. Actually, we met problems on the PCB, one of our partners can't fix it as our request, then we have to source a new partner, luckily we have found one, and they are already on the work with the PCB, hopefully we can release it within weeks. I will keep you updated!
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on Dec 25)
Post by: stoffelduss on Mon, 30 December 2019, 04:37:55
A bluetooth QMK 60% seems useful, I would consider myself interested. Would it be possible to get a special plate layout covering the bottom left and right cutouts? Would it also be possible to get case and plate in different colors? (I'd take silver for the case and black for the plate)

Edit: Remembered that I wanted to mention that I would prefer a split right shift. You could put something useful like Delete there. (Some renders have Delete in the bottom row, I think that's a really bad spot for a "destructive" function)
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on Dec 25)
Post by: entergogo on Mon, 30 December 2019, 18:53:47
A bluetooth QMK 60% seems useful, I would consider myself interested. Would it be possible to get a special plate layout covering the bottom left and right cutouts? Would it also be possible to get case and plate in different colors? (I'd take silver for the case and black for the plate)

Edit: Remembered that I wanted to mention that I would prefer a split right shift. You could put something useful like Delete there. (Some renders have Delete in the bottom row, I think that's a really bad spot for a "destructive" function)
Hey, thank you for your interest!
1. Sorry, the plate design is already done, I don't think we can change the plate layout covering the bottom left and right cutouts.
2. Yes, we can add more colors for the case and plate, it all depends on how many interests for the new colors.
3. For GG60, it's a standard right shift key, we will consider making a split right shift for the next project.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on Dec 25)
Post by: stoffelduss on Mon, 30 December 2019, 19:18:58
Hey, thank you for your interest!
1. Sorry, the plate design is already done, I don't think we can change the plate layout covering the bottom left and right cutouts.
2. Yes, we can add more colors for the case and plate, it all depends on how many interests for the new colors.
3. For GG60, it's a standard right shift key, we will consider making a split right shift for the next project.
Thanks for the reply :thumb: I just noticed that you mentioned the planned colors in the first post, didn't read properly, sorry!
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on Dec 25)
Post by: entergogo on Mon, 30 December 2019, 23:28:11
Hey, thank you for your interest!
1. Sorry, the plate design is already done, I don't think we can change the plate layout covering the bottom left and right cutouts.
2. Yes, we can add more colors for the case and plate, it all depends on how many interests for the new colors.
3. For GG60, it's a standard right shift key, we will consider making a split right shift for the next project.
Thanks for the reply :thumb: I just noticed that you mentioned the planned colors in the first post, didn't read properly, sorry!
:D
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on Dec 25 2019)
Post by: entergogo on Wed, 19 February 2020, 01:59:23
new update on 19th Feb 2020
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 19th Feb 2020)
Post by: lush_bunny on Wed, 19 February 2020, 11:20:10
Filled!
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Mon, 09 March 2020, 05:20:07
NEW UPDATES :D
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: lush_bunny on Mon, 09 March 2020, 13:59:59
Can’t open the new IC link for some reason.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 09 March 2020, 15:37:57
Which specific Bluetooth modules are you considering using?
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Mon, 09 March 2020, 20:31:05
Can’t open the new IC link for some reason.
Hi Mikko,
I just checked it, it still works for me, I'm not sure the exact reason.
But you don't need to fill out again, as it's the same form as before, never changed.
Thank you!
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Mon, 09 March 2020, 20:38:12
Which specific Bluetooth modules are you considering using?

Hey, good question, but I'm not sure the exact BT modules as I'm not total techno, I will ask my partners and then get back to you.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: Sonickid15 on Thu, 19 March 2020, 01:13:39
Oh wow this looks great!! When will people who didn't participate in the group buy be able to buy it? If even possible.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: lush_bunny on Thu, 19 March 2020, 01:19:43
Oh wow this looks great!! When will people who didn't participate in the group buy be able to buy it? If even possible.

No Group Buy yet. You can still join.

EDIT: There aren't really that many Bluetooth Customs out there, so I really hope this pushes through.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Thu, 19 March 2020, 05:05:50
Oh wow this looks great!! When will people who didn't participate in the group buy be able to buy it? If even possible.

The GB is still not open yet, you can join the IC form now, hopefully we can start the GB in April 2020, you will be notified.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: lush_bunny on Thu, 19 March 2020, 05:32:31
Oh wow this looks great!! When will people who didn't participate in the group buy be able to buy it? If even possible.

The GB is still not open yet, you can join the IC form now, hopefully we can start the GB in April 2020, you will be notified.

Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: Jaltr on Thu, 19 March 2020, 05:47:44
Bluetooth 5.0? Im down
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: dommyy13 on Thu, 19 March 2020, 09:18:01
will ISO support be included in the initial GB?
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Thu, 19 March 2020, 20:03:04
Oh wow this looks great!! When will people who didn't participate in the group buy be able to buy it? If even possible.

No Group Buy yet. You can still join.

EDIT: There aren't really that many Bluetooth Customs out there, so I really hope this pushes through.
Thank you for your answer:)
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Thu, 19 March 2020, 20:04:23
Bluetooth 5.0? Im down

Yes, we are testing Bluetooth 5.0, we are gonna use it.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Thu, 19 March 2020, 20:12:26
will ISO support be included in the initial GB?

No, we will not launch the ISO layout in the initial GB.
We already know some people want ISO layout, but not as many as our expectations.
We're planning to launch the ISO layout in the second GB.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: lush_bunny on Fri, 20 March 2020, 02:39:37
Oh wow this looks great!! When will people who didn't participate in the group buy be able to buy it? If even possible.

No Group Buy yet. You can still join.

EDIT: There aren't really that many Bluetooth Customs out there, so I really hope this pushes through.
Thank you for your answer:)

If the first 60% ANSI run is a success, maybe you'd consider layouts too?  :)
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Custom Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Fri, 20 March 2020, 02:52:47
Oh wow this looks great!! When will people who didn't participate in the group buy be able to buy it? If even possible.

No Group Buy yet. You can still join.

EDIT: There aren't really that many Bluetooth Customs out there, so I really hope this pushes through.
Thank you for your answer:)

If the first 60% ANSI run is a success, maybe you'd consider layouts too?  :)
Yes, for sure. ISO or HHKB, we will do a survey, then see how many votes for each one.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: M0nk3yG0d on Tue, 07 April 2020, 15:19:18
If this is Bluetooth 5.0 , hotswap and USB-C, you guys can put me down for one right now.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Wed, 08 April 2020, 03:17:21
If this is Bluetooth 5.0 , hotswap and USB-C, you guys can put me down for one right now.
Thank you for your comments, please fill out the IC form, you will be notified when the GB goes live, the GB time is still TBD.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: Jaltr on Wed, 08 April 2020, 07:00:40
Is there a limit to this GB?

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Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: caonv on Wed, 08 April 2020, 07:44:40
Is there a limit to this GB?

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There is no upper limit.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: yuki on Wed, 08 April 2020, 09:53:57
north facing,, oof, no thanks
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: lush_bunny on Wed, 08 April 2020, 10:38:15
north facing,, oof, no thanks

Does north-facing matter if you're not gonna use LEDs anyway? Honest question.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: rockydbull on Wed, 08 April 2020, 12:13:58
north facing,, oof, no thanks

Does north-facing matter if you're not gonna use LEDs anyway? Honest question.

yes. its the switch housing that causes the issue on thick cherry keycaps, not the actual led (though a big one of those can also cause issues)
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: yuki on Wed, 08 April 2020, 18:57:59
Yeah, what he said, though there can still be issues with caps that are relatively thin, even 1,3mm caps can still have issues. I think the reason here for going with north facing is the large modules in the top edge of the pcb, but honestly a better layout or flipping just a few switches rather than ALL of them would've been a much better solution.
Might also be just because its meant as a lower end board and people might want to use it with shine through caps (?) but I dont think anybody would complain.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: rockydbull on Wed, 08 April 2020, 21:22:51
Yeah, what he said, though there can still be issues with caps that are relatively thin, even 1,3mm caps can still have issues. I think the reason here for going with north facing is the large modules in the top edge of the pcb, but honestly a better layout or flipping just a few switches rather than ALL of them would've been a much better solution.
Might also be just because its meant as a lower end board and people might want to use it with shine through caps (?) but I dont think anybody would complain.

I absolutely agree flipping a couple of switches is always a good compromise because usually it's just too row ones which have the least interference. I do think your theory about shine through is likely a major driving force in keeping it north.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Wed, 08 April 2020, 22:33:28
Is there a limit to this GB?

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Actually no limit.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Thu, 09 April 2020, 03:56:44
north facing,, oof, no thanks

Does north-facing matter if you're not gonna use LEDs anyway? Honest question.

yes. its the switch housing that causes the issue on thick cherry keycaps, not the actual led (though a big one of those can also cause issues)
Thank you for your comments, we can do south-facing, let me know if you want a south-facing one.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Thu, 09 April 2020, 04:01:26
Yeah, what he said, though there can still be issues with caps that are relatively thin, even 1,3mm caps can still have issues. I think the reason here for going with north facing is the large modules in the top edge of the pcb, but honestly a better layout or flipping just a few switches rather than ALL of them would've been a much better solution.
Might also be just because its meant as a lower end board and people might want to use it with shine through caps (?) but I dont think anybody would complain.
Hey, thank you for your comments. We still can do south-facing PCB boards now if really matters to you all. Please let me know.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Thu, 09 April 2020, 04:05:53
Yeah, what he said, though there can still be issues with caps that are relatively thin, even 1,3mm caps can still have issues. I think the reason here for going with north facing is the large modules in the top edge of the pcb, but honestly a better layout or flipping just a few switches rather than ALL of them would've been a much better solution.
Might also be just because its meant as a lower end board and people might want to use it with shine through caps (?) but I dont think anybody would complain.

I absolutely agree flipping a couple of switches is always a good compromise because usually it's just too row ones which have the least interference. I do think your theory about shine through is likely a major driving force in keeping it north.
Thank you for your comments, as we are going to make the PCB board without LED light, so south-facing PCB seems a better choice if north-facing has the potential caps interference problem. Please let me know if you want it south-facing.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: caonv on Thu, 09 April 2020, 04:21:54
Yeah, what he said, though there can still be issues with caps that are relatively thin, even 1,3mm caps can still have issues. I think the reason here for going with north facing is the large modules in the top edge of the pcb, but honestly a better layout or flipping just a few switches rather than ALL of them would've been a much better solution.
Might also be just because its meant as a lower end board and people might want to use it with shine through caps (?) but I dont think anybody would complain.
Hey, thank you for your comments. We still can do south-facing PCB boards now if really matters to you all. Please let me know.
In my opinion, if you have test the issue mentioned in above comments and found no problem, you don't have to care about that issue.  :-\
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Thu, 09 April 2020, 04:34:21
Yeah, what he said, though there can still be issues with caps that are relatively thin, even 1,3mm caps can still have issues. I think the reason here for going with north facing is the large modules in the top edge of the pcb, but honestly a better layout or flipping just a few switches rather than ALL of them would've been a much better solution.
Might also be just because its meant as a lower end board and people might want to use it with shine through caps (?) but I dont think anybody would complain.
Hey, thank you for your comments. We still can do south-facing PCB boards now if really matters to you all. Please let me know.
In my opinion, if you have test the issue mentioned in above comments and found no problem, you don't have to care about that issue.  :-\
Actually, we do have very small issues on the caps, we think it's acceptable, but the thing is we can't guarantee everyone has the same caps as us, so probably there are big issues on some thick keycaps.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Mar 2020)
Post by: rockydbull on Thu, 09 April 2020, 07:01:33
Yeah, what he said, though there can still be issues with caps that are relatively thin, even 1,3mm caps can still have issues. I think the reason here for going with north facing is the large modules in the top edge of the pcb, but honestly a better layout or flipping just a few switches rather than ALL of them would've been a much better solution.
Might also be just because its meant as a lower end board and people might want to use it with shine through caps (?) but I dont think anybody would complain.

I absolutely agree flipping a couple of switches is always a good compromise because usually it's just too row ones which have the least interference. I do think your theory about shine through is likely a major driving force in keeping it north.
Thank you for your comments, as we are going to make the PCB board without LED light, so south-facing PCB seems a better choice if north-facing has the potential caps interference problem. Please let me know if you want it south-facing.

South facing is always preferable because there are many people who use cherry profile keycaps. Just look at tall the south facing lcbs on the market.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Apr 2020)
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 09 April 2020, 08:45:39
Thank you for your comments, as we are going to make the PCB board without LED light, so south-facing PCB seems a better choice if north-facing has the potential caps interference problem. Please let me know if you want it south-facing.

You should definitely switch to south-facing switches if you still have the option and the board doesn't use LEDs anyway.

Did you get a chance to ask your partners which Bluetooth module is being used?
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Apr 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Thu, 09 April 2020, 22:04:44
Thank you for your comments, as we are going to make the PCB board without LED light, so south-facing PCB seems a better choice if north-facing has the potential caps interference problem. Please let me know if you want it south-facing.

You should definitely switch to south-facing switches if you still have the option and the board doesn't use LEDs anyway.

Did you get a chance to ask your partners which Bluetooth module is being used?

Thank you for your comments, as we are going to make the PCB board without LED light, so south-facing PCB seems a better choice if north-facing has the potential caps interference problem. Please let me know if you want it south-facing.

You should definitely switch to south-facing switches if you still have the option and the board doesn't use LEDs anyway.

Did you get a chance to ask your partners which Bluetooth module is being used?
Yeah, we'll make a decision if switch to south-facing on this weekend. Yes, but I haven't got an exact answer, I will keep track of this question.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Apr 2020)
Post by: lush_bunny on Fri, 10 April 2020, 04:47:12
+1 for south-facing, if the issues caused by north-facing is apparent. I'm not a fan of LEDs anyway, this is gonna be part of my everyday carry.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Apr 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Sat, 11 April 2020, 01:49:08
+1 for south-facing, if the issues caused by north-facing is apparent. I'm not a fan of LEDs anyway, this is gonna be part of my everyday carry.

No problem, we will do south-facing.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Apr 2020)
Post by: honoka on Sat, 11 April 2020, 04:29:01
would this pcb fit a standard 60%? edit: just saw the cutouts in the bottom case. do you have any pictures of the modules?
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Apr 2020)
Post by: MdotMaxson on Sat, 11 April 2020, 06:56:48
Did this already do group buy? Is this PCB able to fit into the standard 60% case? If not.... has anyone considered making a 60% PCB with Bluetooth that is a drop in to any standard 60% case?
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Apr 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Sun, 12 April 2020, 22:35:42
would this pcb fit a standard 60%? edit: just saw the cutouts in the bottom case. do you have any pictures of the modules?
GG60 case can be count a standard 60% one, but the charging port is at the left top, you can check the case photos in the post, I'm not sure if the PCB can fit your case.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Apr 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Sun, 12 April 2020, 22:37:55
Did this already do group buy? Is this PCB able to fit into the standard 60% case? If not.... has anyone considered making a 60% PCB with Bluetooth that is a drop in to any standard 60% case?
Not yet, the GB is still not open.
Please check the bottom case photos in the post, I'm not sure if the PCB can fit your case, please check the charging port position.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Apr 2020)
Post by: AffectionateData on Mon, 13 April 2020, 13:06:20
Looking foward to it :D
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Apr 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Mon, 13 April 2020, 20:28:51
Looking foward to it :D
Coming soon...  :-*
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Apr 2020)
Post by: KingOfMemes on Mon, 13 April 2020, 21:33:38
Yeah I dig this. Perfect travel board
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Apr 2020)
Post by: M0nk3yG0d on Tue, 14 April 2020, 01:01:19
Why are there 2 ports on the back of the case? Please tell me that we don’t have to charge using a separate cable.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Apr 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Tue, 14 April 2020, 01:32:24
Why are there 2 ports on the back of the case? Please tell me that we don’t have to charge using a separate cable.
One is charging(Type-C )port, you can use the keyboard like a wired when charging, another one is the power on/off.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Apr 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Tue, 14 April 2020, 01:33:32
Yeah I dig this. Perfect travel board
Thank you for supporting us.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Apr 2020)
Post by: M0nk3yG0d on Tue, 14 April 2020, 08:37:46
Great! Thanks for the amazing communication. Will be placing my order when this GB is listed(already filled out the form). Any estimate on when this will drop?
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Apr 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Tue, 14 April 2020, 20:41:29
Great! Thanks for the amazing communication. Will be placing my order when this GB is listed(already filled out the form). Any estimate on when this will drop?
We are planning to launch the GB in May, hopefully, everything can go smoothly.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Apr 2020)
Post by: lush_bunny on Tue, 14 April 2020, 22:18:35
Glad to see so much interest in this board.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Apr 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Tue, 14 April 2020, 22:26:15
Glad to see so much interest in this board.
Sorry to let you wait so long, we are hurrying up...
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on April 20)
Post by: lush_bunny on Mon, 20 April 2020, 04:40:29
Just saw the update. Sad that black isn’t available anymore, but I can still make grey work. Also thanks for the switch to south-facing switches!
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on April 20)
Post by: entergogo on Mon, 20 April 2020, 04:52:09
Just saw the update. Sad that black isn’t available anymore, but I can still make grey work. Also thanks for the switch to south-facing switches!
Lol, sorry for the misunderstanding, what I mean is besides black and red, maybe add one more color option.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on April 20)
Post by: lush_bunny on Mon, 20 April 2020, 05:26:21
Just saw the update. Sad that black isn’t available anymore, but I can still make grey work. Also thanks for the switch to south-facing switches!
Lol, sorry for the misunderstanding, what I mean is besides black and red, maybe add one more color option.

Okay that is much clearer thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on April 20)
Post by: Ehhrrrick on Mon, 20 April 2020, 23:37:30
The PCB will still be hot swappable, correct? ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on April 20)
Post by: entergogo on Tue, 21 April 2020, 02:36:16
The PCB will still be hot swappable, correct? ;D
Yes, for sure, always hot-swap.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on April 20)
Post by: microCuts on Mon, 04 May 2020, 21:52:52
Is polycarbonate case under consideration? Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on April 20)
Post by: entergogo on Tue, 05 May 2020, 01:28:25
Is polycarbonate case under consideration? Thanks!

I'm sorry, no.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on April 20)
Post by: Blue_Ninja0 on Wed, 06 May 2020, 10:27:41
I'm sorry if I've already asked any of these questions on the Discord server, but I'll post them here so that anyone can read them.

These questions are for the 2nd round group buy because I have to wait for ISO support:
1) Will there be a grey case?
2) Will there be the possibility for a high profile case?
3) Can the PCB become compatible with standard 60% cases like most PCBs do?
4) Have you decided if you're using Bluetooth 4.0 or 5.0? What are the benefits of 5.0?
EDIT:
5) Will we be able to request the keyboard with Cherry MX Silent Red switches?

Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on April 20)
Post by: entergogo on Wed, 06 May 2020, 19:48:46
I'm sorry if I've already asked any of these questions on the Discord server, but I'll post them here so that anyone can read them.

These questions are for the 2nd round group buy because I have to wait for ISO support:
1) Will there be a grey case?
2) Will there be the possibility for a high profile case?
3) Can the PCB become compatible with standard 60% cases like most PCBs do?
4) Have you decided if you're using Bluetooth 4.0 or 5.0? What are the benefits of 5.0?
EDIT:
5) Will we be able to request the keyboard with Cherry MX Silent Red switches?

Thanks!
Yeah, I'm very glad to meet you here again. Here is the answer.
1) Will there be a grey case?  Very probably
2) Will there be the possibility for a high profile case? I don't think so:(
3) Can the PCB become compatible with standard 60% cases like most PCBs do? No one knows, maybe will compatible with GH60
4) Have you decided if you're using Bluetooth 4.0 or 5.0? What are the benefits of 5.0? I think it's 5.0, faster and greater range.
EDIT:
5) Will we be able to request the keyboard with Cherry MX Silent Red switches? Yeah, for sure
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on April 20)
Post by: kidviddy on Wed, 06 May 2020, 20:14:42
I mentioned this on the form, but when you get to the second round group buy, please consider the following on top of ISO support if you don't already have them:

1) Support for a split backspace (relatively common on 60% boards)
2) Support for a split right-shift key with the 1U on the left.  GH60, DZ60, and various other boards support this.
3) Support for a "minila" style split space key. On the original minila this is split in three with sizes 1.25, 3, 1.25.  Support for this is very rare; the only PCB I'm aware of that has it is the GH60 (the DZ60 doesn't  :()

This would be enough to offer full support for JIS layouts with keys either side of the space bar for switching between English and Japanese, which would be just awesome in a bluetooth keyboard -- I am not aware of another bluetooth PCB that offers this.  Those keys can also be useful as function keys even if you don't use JIS; see the ANSI Filco Minila for an example of them in use.

I know this may be out of scope for what you are considering but I just wanted to point it out as if you were going to add these things doing it at the same time as ISO would make a lot of sense.  We JIS users are starved of usable PCBs :(
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on April 20)
Post by: entergogo on Wed, 06 May 2020, 21:23:34
I mentioned this on the form, but when you get to the second round group buy, please consider the following on top of ISO support if you don't already have them:

1) Support for a split backspace (relatively common on 60% boards)
2) Support for a split right-shift key with the 1U on the left.  GH60, DZ60, and various other boards support this.
3) Support for a "minila" style split space key. On the original minila this is split in three with sizes 1.25, 3, 1.25.  Support for this is very rare; the only PCB I'm aware of that has it is the GH60 (the DZ60 doesn't  :()

This would be enough to offer full support for JIS layouts with keys either side of the space bar for switching between English and Japanese, which would be just awesome in a bluetooth keyboard -- I am not aware of another bluetooth PCB that offers this.  Those keys can also be useful as function keys even if you don't use JIS; see the ANSI Filco Minila for an example of them in use.

I know this may be out of scope for what you are considering but I just wanted to point it out as if you were going to add these things doing it at the same time as ISO would make a lot of sense.  We JIS users are starved of usable PCBs :(
Very good point, we didn't get any requirements from Japan before, we will definitely consider this.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on April 20)
Post by: kidviddy on Wed, 06 May 2020, 23:05:06
Very good point, we didn't get any requirements from Japan before, we will definitely consider this.

Thanks! Even if you don’t offer it as an option for your fully-built keyboards, just having support for it in the PCB would be really helpful!
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on April 20)
Post by: entergogo on Thu, 07 May 2020, 01:03:17
Very good point, we didn't get any requirements from Japan before, we will definitely consider this.

Thanks! Even if you don’t offer it as an option for your fully-built keyboards, just having support for it in the PCB would be really helpful!
Yes, that makes sense, lots of thanks
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on April 20)
Post by: IBMweMissU on Wed, 22 July 2020, 05:30:58
I am SO in if this supports split backspace, split Rshift, split spacebars and stepped caps.
And definitely BLE5 !
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on April 20)
Post by: entergogo on Wed, 22 July 2020, 21:16:18
I am SO in if this supports split backspace, split Rshift, split spacebars and stepped caps.
And definitely BLE5 !
Hey, thank you for reaching.
We are appreciate your advice, but the PCB is almost done, so far it's not support the layout as you mentioned.
We will consider to upgrade the PCB in future, but all depends on if the community like it or not.
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on 9th Apr 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Thu, 30 July 2020, 22:45:57
Glad to see so much interest in this board.
UPDATE coming
Title: Re: [IC] GG60 60% Bluetooth5.0 Travel Keyboard Kit (Update on Sep 25, 2020)
Post by: entergogo on Fri, 25 September 2020, 03:57:20
NEW UPDATE ON SEP 25 2020
Title: Re: [IC]Go-fit60, A 60% Bluetooth 5.0 Barebones Kit, by entergogo, GB starts soon
Post by: entergogo on Sat, 17 April 2021, 10:23:20
Heyyyy guys, we know it's been a longggg time since the last update on this discussion page. Fortunately, we are now re-starting this project right after finished up the Go-popper. Here's the update on it.

Let us know any thoughts, comments, and questions about our Go-fit60 barebones kit!

entergogo
April 2021
Title: Re: [IC]Go-fit60, A 60% Bluetooth 5.0 Barebones Kit, by entergogo, GB starts soon
Post by: entergogo on Sat, 17 April 2021, 10:24:34
Heyyyy guys, we know it's been a longggg time since the last update on this discussion page. Fortunately, we are now re-starting this project right after finished up the Go-popper. Here's the update on it.

Let us know any thoughts, comments, and questions about our Go-fit60 barebones kit!

entergogo
April 2021
Title: Re: [IC]Go-fit60, A 60% Bluetooth 5.0 Barebones Kit, by entergogo, GB starts soon
Post by: CPU_Cartel on Tue, 20 April 2021, 03:16:56
Do you have a list of cases the pcb supports?
Title: Re: [IC]Go-fit60, A 60% Bluetooth 5.0 Barebones Kit, by entergogo, GB starts soon
Post by: entergogo on Tue, 20 April 2021, 04:51:22
Do you have a list of cases the pcb supports?
Hey, as we designed our own case, so far our PCB doesn't support other cases on the market.
Title: Re: [IC]Go-fit60, A 60% Bluetooth 5.0 Barebones Kit, by entergogo, GB starts soon
Post by: entergogo on Tue, 10 August 2021, 05:38:35
This video will give you a quick walk-through on go-fit60's sound with two kinds of switches: TTC red switch and Gateron blue switch.

https://youtu.be/u-EdkMk_3IM
Title: Re: [IC]Go-fit60, A 60% Bluetooth 5.0 Barebones Kit, GB is in progress
Post by: entergogo on Sun, 22 August 2021, 20:45:21
Hey, just notify everyone that fit60's GB is now online.
Basically, you can see all the popular features from its compact body, it has a simple design and we have tried to keep the price as low as possible. Please check the link for more details if you have an interest.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114214.0