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Offline worldspawn

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R3 starting soon for the Gothic 70 with some new case options. Pricing as follows.  More specifics to come.





Current R1 Status: Shipped
Current R2 Status: Shipped
Current R3 Status: Not taking orders yet

This is a Group Buy based on the IC here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101999.0

I've been wanting an Alice style board for a while and couldn't find one with a layout I like, the Arisu board was close, so I've modified it to add some additional features.  Additions to the original Arisu PCB include adding USB-C, 3 indicator LEDs, an RGB strip header, and some extra keys (including an option for split or 2u backspace and stepped or full capslock), as well as some general routing and component cleanup.  The completed board weighs 2-2.5 lbs depending on case options.

The board is QMK compatible, firmware avaialble here: https://github.com/worldspawn00/Firmwares and eventually on the QMK configurator.

Timeline on the buy is to close when I hit 100 case orders, or 2 weeks, whichever comes first.  If there is a lot of interest, I will rerun the buy after the first round ships.  Estimated shipping is middle of October through the first week of November, depending on logistics.  Updates will be regularly posted here.


There are options to add plate foam, and upgrade the plate or whole case to POM, POM colors are limited to Black and White.  Acrylic is available in clear, frosted, white, black, and matte black.


A note on POM, POM looks similar to acrylic except it's going to be slightly less glossy and probably have small scratches on it, POM does not come with protective paper on it, so it frequently has small scratches from the factory. Please be aware of this if ordering a POM case.

I have the completed and working prototypes on hand and have confirmed that the board and firmware work fine. Photos below are hardwired due to the USB port being backordered, the final version will have a USBC port on the board.











Veneer option, in cherry


Clear and Frosted plates


Clear case


Frosted case



The PCB will be matte black soldermask and red silk.






The Gothic50 features a completely stabilizer free layout option!



« Last Edit: Wed, 26 May 2021, 14:55:41 by worldspawn »
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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 09:14:37 »
Approved
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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 10:00:49 »
Looks good! Can I buy more than one case/plate? Or would that require a separate pcb order as well?

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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 10:03:20 »
In for a black POM!

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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 10:04:41 »
Looks good! Can I buy more than one case/plate? Or would that require a separate pcb order as well?

The plate and case are separate items, you may order additionals of either.
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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 10:05:41 »
Could you add another listing or option so we could order multiple case bottoms?
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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 10:46:09 »
This looks fantastic, ordered!

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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 11:15:47 »
I was looking around for a decent Alice layout too, this is perfect!
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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 11:45:38 »
Do you have any samples/examples of what black frost acrylic looks like? Does it look like a solid matte black or is it somewhat translucent (similar to clear frost acrylic)?

Offline worldspawn

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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 12:09:57 »
Do you have any samples/examples of what black frost acrylic looks like? Does it look like a solid matte black or is it somewhat translucent (similar to clear frost acrylic)?

It's the opaque matte black in the photos in the OP

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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 12:18:09 »
Do you have any samples/examples of what black frost acrylic looks like? Does it look like a solid matte black or is it somewhat translucent (similar to clear frost acrylic)?

It's the opaque matte black in the photos in the OP

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Ah, I thought that was black POM. Good to know!

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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:26:02 »
Bought a matte black kit, thanks for running this!

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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:39:07 »
Amazing layout, definitely in for a kit.

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« Reply #13 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:01:53 »
In for the frosted acrylic! That pattern on the pcb should look awesome through the frosted case.

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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:06:38 »
Will you release plate files? I'm intersted in this, but I'd like to replace the plate with a brass plate. Thanks in advance!



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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:09:24 »
Will you release plate files? I'm intersted in this, but I'd like to replace the plate with a brass plate. Thanks in advance!
Yeah, just ping me after the GB is closed and I'll send you a link.

Quick note, if you want to do a 1.5mm plate and would like the foam, order 2x foam so it will fill the larger gap as the original design is using a 3mm plate.
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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:15:18 »
Will you release plate files? I'm intersted in this, but I'd like to replace the plate with a brass plate. Thanks in advance!
Yeah, just ping me after the GB is closed and I'll send you a link.

Quick note, if you want to do a 1.5mm plate and would like the foam, order 2x foam so it will fill the larger gap as the original design is using a 3mm plate.

Thanks!
I will ping you



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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:17:41 »
Will this kit come with the screws?

Offline worldspawn

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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:33:39 »
Will this kit come with the screws?

Yes, the case includes the necessary hardware.  Stainless steel screws and brass standoffs.
I can make acrylic laser cut cases/plates PM for info

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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:38:37 »
Yes, the case includes the necessary hardware.  Stainless steel screws and brass standoffs.

Sweet, thank you! Order placed, not that not having screws was the deal breaker.

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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:48:40 »
Do you have any photos of the POM or the black clear cases? Just curious.

Offline worldspawn

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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #21 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:53:24 »
Do you have any photos of the POM or the black clear cases? Just curious.

The frosted(matte) black cases are in the OP photos, the black POM is going to look like any other smooth black plastic, the surface finish of POM tends to be a bit rough as it does not come with protective paper

I can make acrylic laser cut cases/plates PM for info

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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #22 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 15:37:13 »
Could you upload a picture of the white acrylic perhaps ?

Really looking forward to buying a white acrylic case + white POM plate ~

Offline worldspawn

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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 16:01:18 »
Could you upload a picture of the white acrylic perhaps ?

Really looking forward to buying a white acrylic case + white POM plate ~

white acrylic, its, white, it's glossy, I don't have a case cut in it.

I can make acrylic laser cut cases/plates PM for info

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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #24 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 16:47:57 »
Ended up joining for clear and frosted clear. Excited! Black frosted sold out while it was in my cart, so people might want to get on this if they're interested.

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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #25 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 16:50:15 »
Ended up joining for clear and frosted clear. Excited! Black frosted sold out while it was in my cart, so people might want to get on this if they're interested.

I changed the name to Matte black to avoid confusion with the frosted clear, it should be available under that name now if you're interested in the black.
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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #26 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 16:57:07 »
Do you think you'll have it on QMK configurator by the time it's shipped? Or after?
I've had issues compiling on QMK (noob) so I definitely prefer to use the configurator.

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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #27 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 16:59:20 »
Do you think you'll have it on QMK configurator by the time it's shipped? Or after?
I've had issues compiling on QMK (noob) so I definitely prefer to use the configurator.

I'll pre load the boards with a standard layout so it'll be usable immediately, and definitely provide a .hex, and I'll try to get it into the configurator before it ships, it seems like they're processing PRs faster now so hopefully it'll be ready.
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« Reply #28 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 17:31:21 »
Do you think you'll have it on QMK configurator by the time it's shipped? Or after?
I've had issues compiling on QMK (noob) so I definitely prefer to use the configurator.

I'll pre load the boards with a standard layout so it'll be usable immediately, and definitely provide a .hex, and I'll try to get it into the configurator before it ships, it seems like they're processing PRs faster now so hopefully it'll be ready.

Awesome! Super excited for this!

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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 17:38:29 »
Went with a clear frost acrylic case w/ clear bottom + clear frost acrylic plate. Looking forward to this!

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« Reply #30 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 18:47:53 »
Does it come with screws?

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« Reply #31 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 19:00:05 »
POM2 for me!

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« Reply #32 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 19:07:26 »
Does it come with screws?

Will this kit come with the screws?

Yes, the case includes the necessary hardware.  Stainless steel screws and brass standoffs.
I can make acrylic laser cut cases/plates PM for info

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« Reply #33 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 19:15:11 »
Any chance to get black screws to go with black acrylic?

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« Reply #34 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 19:34:49 »
In for one
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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 19:44:05 »
I forgot to add foam to my order, since this is going through Etsy is there a way to add foam to my existing order?

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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #36 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 20:02:28 »
I'm in for one, looking forward to this as well!

Just to be sure, does anyone know if the standard Arisu layout supports regular backspace?


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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 20:38:12 »
I'm in for one, looking forward to this as well!

Just to be sure, does anyone know if the standard Arisu layout supports regular backspace?


The only changes the standard Arisu makes is swapping the left bottom 2 1.25u keys for a left aligned 1.5, and dropping the extra B and right side 1.25, the stepped capslock and 2u backspace remain an option since their plate footprint is the same with both options.
« Last Edit: Wed, 28 August 2019, 20:39:55 by worldspawn »
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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #38 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 20:48:36 »
In for a frosted kit, looks great! It doesn't look like it from the PCB pics, but is there any way of adding an underglow to this?

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« Reply #39 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 20:58:01 »
In for a frosted kit, looks great! It doesn't look like it from the PCB pics, but is there any way of adding an underglow to this?

From the IC thread

>could you add led support?
It has underglow support via an RGB strip header, but I do not plan on adding per-key at this time

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« Reply #40 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 21:08:40 »
In for a frosted kit, looks great! It doesn't look like it from the PCB pics, but is there any way of adding an underglow to this?

From the IC thread

>could you add led support?
It has underglow support via an RGB strip header, but I do not plan on adding per-key at this time

Missed that, thanks.

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« Reply #41 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 21:59:32 »
Is there not a matte black plate option? Also in acrylic vs pom plate, would there be a noticeable increase in flex going to pom?

Offline worldspawn

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« Reply #42 on: Wed, 28 August 2019, 22:03:41 »
Is there not a matte black plate option? Also in acrylic vs pom plate, would there be a noticeable increase in flex going to pom?

Plate isn't particularly visible in the closed case, so didn't figure there was much reason to offer it in matte, but if you want it in matte, leave a note in the order and I can do it in that material.

POM is a bit more flexy, but not a lot, it's mostly a sound change with the increased density IMHO
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« Reply #43 on: Thu, 29 August 2019, 04:06:50 »
Any chance of adding QMK speaker support to the PCB?

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« Reply #44 on: Thu, 29 August 2019, 07:28:27 »
Is there not a matte black plate option? Also in acrylic vs pom plate, would there be a noticeable increase in flex going to pom?

Plate isn't particularly visible in the closed case, so didn't figure there was much reason to offer it in matte, but if you want it in matte, leave a note in the order and I can do it in that material.

POM is a bit more flexy, but not a lot, it's mostly a sound change with the increased density IMHO

Thanks I am going to go matte black case with black pom plate.

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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #45 on: Thu, 29 August 2019, 11:27:37 »
Hit 100 orders already, GB is closed.  I'll be running another round in November, thanks everyone.
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Hit 100 orders already, GB is closed.  I'll be running another round in November, thanks everyone.

Figured you would hit it in no time!
That’s awesome.

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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #47 on: Thu, 29 August 2019, 13:00:41 »
I'm in for one, looking forward to this as well!

Just to be sure, does anyone know if the standard Arisu layout supports regular backspace?


The only changes the standard Arisu makes is swapping the left bottom 2 1.25u keys for a left aligned 1.5, and dropping the extra B and right side 1.25, the stepped capslock and 2u backspace remain an option since their plate footprint is the same with both options.

That's perfect, thanks for taking the time to clarify that worldspawn!

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Re: [GB] Gothic70 - Alice style board with arrow keys and acrylic/POM case
« Reply #48 on: Thu, 29 August 2019, 15:17:30 »
Hit 100 orders already, GB is closed.  I'll be running another round in November, thanks everyone.

Wow, that was fast. Reserved one as well, looking forward to it! Thanks for making this happen!

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Well dang. Looks like I'll have to wait until November then!