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When is a keyboard "mechanical"?
« on: Wed, 19 December 2018, 06:30:58 »
When is a keyboard "mechanical"? Maybe more of a philosophical video this time, but I figured it was a subject well-worth diving into. Hope you enjoy the video! :)

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Re: When is a keyboard "mechanical"?
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 19 December 2018, 06:33:29 »
Technically, every non-touch keyboard that is not the laser one (= has actual keys) is mechanical.
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Re: When is a keyboard "mechanical"?
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 19 December 2018, 09:07:28 »
I think rather than strictly looking at the definition of 'mechanical' to compare keyboard switches to, whatever shape, form and material used, actuation levels etc, it'd be certainly easier to assess what makes it mechanical by feel alone. There's a lot of cheaper keyboards with 'mechanical feeling' switches - seems as if it's the feel is what is aimed at being replicated, not the mechanism or anything alike. What is attempted to be copied is the 'clicky' or 'crisp' feel, whether in the feedback - such as tactile switches, or in bottoming out - like in linears, not a mushy dell robber dome.
I guess if you use a switch which can be considered to have the most mechanical feel, or possibly a switch that is most commonly associated with mechanical keyboards?, can be the used as a baseline of comparison and then determine whether or not it feels mechanical enough. But that raises more questions since its all subjective as to what 'feels' best.   

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Re: When is a keyboard "mechanical"?
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 19 December 2018, 15:01:03 »
If a keyboard gives you that warm and fuzzy feeling as you type on it..  it's  mechanical..

That's as much distinction as the term is worth..

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A title hard earned for the time we've wasted on this nonsense.


If you ask an engineer, EVERY keyboard is mechanical..



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Re: When is a keyboard "mechanical"?
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 19 December 2018, 17:20:22 »
What is the sound of one hand clapping?
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Re: When is a keyboard "mechanical"?
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 19 December 2018, 18:05:29 »
What is the sound of one hand clapping?


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Re: When is a keyboard "mechanical"?
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 19 December 2018, 19:04:20 »
What is the sound of one hand clapping?


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Re: When is a keyboard "mechanical"?
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 19 December 2018, 19:52:53 »
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: When is a keyboard "mechanical"?
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Re: When is a keyboard "mechanical"?
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 19 December 2018, 20:05:43 »
This is my favorite video of yours so far chyros. I was getting tired of the elitism in some corners of this hobby about owning a "mechanical" board and hating on people who do not have a technically "mechanical" board by their own definitions of one.
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Re: When is a keyboard "mechanical"?
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 20 December 2018, 15:49:27 »
"Mechanical" simply is not a valid description...and should be discarded...

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Re: When is a keyboard "mechanical"?
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 20 December 2018, 19:59:56 »
"Mechanical" simply is not a valid description...and should be discarded...

Everyone discard your allegedly "mechanical" keyboards to me!
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: When is a keyboard "mechanical"?
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 21 December 2018, 00:30:44 »
Imo if it uses a spring I think it's mechanical.
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Re: When is a keyboard "mechanical"?
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 21 December 2018, 00:31:35 »
Imo if it uses a spring I think it's mechanical.

this is a fair definition imo, since it includes topre
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Re: When is a keyboard "mechanical"?
« Reply #14 on: Sat, 29 December 2018, 01:39:52 »
Imo if it uses a spring I think it's mechanical.

this is a fair definition imo, since it includes topre

That would make Topre a rubber dome mechanical board.

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