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Title: [IC] Dawn | FE Raffle 10/29 - Link to GB thread
Post by: crykn on Tue, 03 September 2019, 16:28:04
Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)

FE Raffle live on 10/29
GB thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=115115.0


Finite Design Discord server: https://finitedesign.io/discord (https://finitedesign.io/discord)

Build Stream 1/21
There will be a build stream on Thursday at 20:00 GMT+1 by Poesjuh (https://twitch.tv/P0esjuh (https://twitch.tv/P0esjuh)) showing off one of the second prototypes for the board. Feedback from build streams on the prototypes will be used to make any final tweaks to the design before the GB!

Specifications

Layouts

These are the final layouts for the Winkeyless (WKL) and Winkey (WK) plates. The PCB officially supports ISO, and an ISO plate file will be offered along with the other open sourced plate files once the GB concludes.

Winkeyless (WKL):

(https://i.imgur.com/yYlVC0o.png)

Winkey (WK):

(https://i.imgur.com/fT6yXDr.png)

Second Prototype

The second prototype fixed the tolerances for the back accent, added PTFE alignment pins in the same style as Keycult, and made improvements to the shape of the internal weight. The second prototype will be the production version of the board, with only minor potential changes, including - switching the custom feet to SKUF and engraving my logo on the bottom of the board.

(https://i.imgur.com/nYwLcA6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/LFfM1B9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/YcohVOg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/tLcIznz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/FFWQxWt.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Z8c3EBK.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1ymojj6.jpg)

First Prototype

The first prototype turned out really well! The only issue was that the back accent tolerances led to it being more difficult to remove than preferred, which will be fixed in the second prototype.

(https://i.imgur.com/zl2TUxB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/dGQYwHe.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ch9OUAc.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: crykn on Tue, 03 September 2019, 16:28:22
More Renders

GMK Umbra

(https://i.imgur.com/kBCTkVQ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/GFXDmSO.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/fjpWMjG.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SeMlUul.jpg)

GMK Hero (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100443.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100443.0))

(https://i.imgur.com/GEEqbqU.jpg)

GMK White on Black (WoB)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZckPI1i.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/TdoHybB.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: crykn on Tue, 03 September 2019, 16:28:31
Frequently Asked Questions

Reserved
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: Abdallah9 on Tue, 03 September 2019, 16:31:18
Thaaat's pretty totaly in for it.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: Mr.Elli0t on Tue, 03 September 2019, 16:34:11
Reserved

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Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: Starston3 on Tue, 03 September 2019, 16:43:19
Nice Bauer bottom row... but no credit seems ummm... something
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: mrkantz on Tue, 03 September 2019, 17:07:05
I dig this, nice work!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: Kokaloo on Tue, 03 September 2019, 17:21:59
This is peak 75% layout imo
Looks niiiice excited to see a proto
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: crykn on Tue, 03 September 2019, 17:30:43
Thaaat's pretty totaly in for it.

I dig this, nice work!

This is peak 75% layout imo
Looks niiiice excited to see a proto

Thanks for the kind words and support! Glad you guys like the design! Hopefully a prototype will be coming soon.

Nice Bauer bottom row... but no credit seems ummm... something

Although this was in jest, I went ahead and added a tribute to Dixie Mech's Bauer as inspiration for the symmetrical 0.75u WKL blocker out of respect for Dixie.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: lush_bunny on Tue, 03 September 2019, 17:32:23
Sexy. Colors?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: bthezebra on Tue, 03 September 2019, 17:33:20
Really like this design and the renders are well done  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 03 September 2019, 17:37:32
looks like the Bauer and the Polaris had a baby that grew to be bigger than the two of them!  That's not a bad thing, either.  Nice looking board.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: crd on Tue, 03 September 2019, 17:52:51
This is exactly the 75% layout I have always been looking for. It has all of the right design elements: separated, symmetrical, blocked F row as well as the nicely symmetrical blocked bottom row. Yes please. I hope someone picks this up and makes this a reality. Looking forward to seeing more progress on this. Nice work and good luck!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: rondg on Tue, 03 September 2019, 17:54:53
Totally interested
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: Lunarpie on Tue, 03 September 2019, 18:00:40
Interested for sure. Nice 75%

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Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: vicissitude on Tue, 03 September 2019, 18:14:14
interested.
Love the TGR-style bottom.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: jimboytacos on Tue, 03 September 2019, 18:38:36
F...... I'm soooo in.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: PheonixStarr on Tue, 03 September 2019, 18:50:20
bro this keeb's a thickie lemme get sum
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: m00t0nz on Tue, 03 September 2019, 19:22:48
Isolation mount is so hot right now. Really liking this! Nice work
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: lush_bunny on Tue, 03 September 2019, 20:28:37
IC Filled. Fingers crossed for Dark Navy.
Question: What are the things that would drive down the cost of production for this board? MOQ? One layout for all?
Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: crykn on Tue, 03 September 2019, 20:37:19
Sexy. Colors?

IC Filled. Fingers crossed for Dark Navy.
Question: What are the things that would drive down the cost of production for this board? MOQ? One layout for all?
Thanks!

The colors are listed in the interest check survey, where you can list your top color choices. The colors that seem to have the most interest will likely have renders made for them and then they would be offered in the group buy. Production cost would definitely be driven most by higher order quantity. I doubt one layout would work, as both WK and WKL have strong support. Sandblasted brass would also likely be a bit cheaper than PVD, so we will see about what everyone is interested in. The best case scenario is just to generate lots of interest in the board so we can do a higher quantity and minimize the cost.

Really like this design and the renders are well done  :thumb:

Thanks! the renders were made by PheonixStarr, with the exception of a couple that I made myself last minute, and they turned out really well!

looks like the Bauer and the Polaris had a baby that grew to be bigger than the two of them!  That's not a bad thing, either.  Nice looking board.

That is quite an interesting but fairly accurate description. The blockers were inspired by the Bauer, and it's funny that the Polaris had a vaguely similar design, although by the time it was released my design had already been finalized.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: mrpetrov on Tue, 03 September 2019, 20:42:20
I really like this design and am certainly interested. That said - and I know this isn't on the table - but I'd be a definite yes if this had separated arrow keys and right hand column.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: SUB01 on Tue, 03 September 2019, 21:13:16
Looking good! I think this is going to be really popular with the people who don't like branding on their keyboards. Although some kind of engraving or design of dawn or something on the back might make this board stand out against other 75%s.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: crykn on Tue, 03 September 2019, 21:35:04
This is exactly the 75% layout I have always been looking for. It has all of the right design elements: separated, symmetrical, blocked F row as well as the nicely symmetrical blocked bottom row. Yes please. I hope someone picks this up and makes this a reality. Looking forward to seeing more progress on this. Nice work and good luck!

Thanks for the kind feedback! Definitely hoping to find the vendor sooner rather than later. Once the vendor and manufacturer are locked in, prototyping can occur.

Totally interested

Interested for sure. Nice 75%

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F...... I'm soooo in.

Glad to hear it guys! Appreciate the support.

bro this keeb's a thickie lemme get sum

Of course, thanks for the awesome renders and helpful feedback <3

interested.
Love the TGR-style bottom.

Yeah, the TGR bottom shape, among other designs, was definitely an inspiration for the clean aesthetic I was targeting.

Isolation mount is so hot right now. Really liking this! Nice work

Thanks! I really enjoyed Keycult's implementation of isolation mount, so I'm excited to include it in this design!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: crykn on Tue, 03 September 2019, 22:15:38
I really like this design and am certainly interested. That said - and I know this isn't on the table - but I'd be a definite yes if this had separated arrow keys and right hand column.

Hey Mr Petrov, I recognize you from Top Clack! Unfortunately, like you said, the case layout is pretty set, only the plate layouts are likely to change according to feedback, but thanks for the feedback!

Looking good! I think this is going to be really popular with the people who don't like branding on their keyboards. Although some kind of engraving or design of dawn or something on the back might make this board stand out against other 75%s.

That's an interesting suggestion, I'll see if lots of other people request back engravings. I am considering a limited edition version with a certain back weight design I had in mind; however, I don't want to get ahead of myself as I've just barely started the IC phase and want to prototype the standard edition first. I'll have to see what feedback and demand looks like first.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: JerkChicken456 on Tue, 03 September 2019, 23:48:44
very sweet board. that first GMK render is a face melter. hope it comes to fruition.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: Solotov on Wed, 04 September 2019, 00:41:56
Holy moly. Definitely in for this one  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: PotatoTM on Wed, 04 September 2019, 00:50:49
Nice and clean, consider me interested!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: cornballin on Wed, 04 September 2019, 00:59:02
My initial thoughts are:
1. A render with GMK Olive would be sweet. I think it would look good on the silver.
2. I also wish a polycarbonate option was available.
3. Regardless of 1 and 2, I'm going to try to get in on this. This is nice.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: vi0till on Wed, 04 September 2019, 01:02:55
Super interested to join..

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Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: nguyenhimself on Wed, 04 September 2019, 01:15:02
This looks great. A bit simple, but I do enjoy the back view.

Probably a long shot, but: Any chance of split spacebars? Maybe 2.25 + 1.25 + 2.75 (6.25) so that they'd fit inside the Winkey spacebar and you don't have to change any mod keys. You wouldn't even need to change the plate.

Something like this:

(https://miro.medium.com/max/3465/1*Zg5UgrOz0lUJtmVWQDxmsQ.jpeg)

(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_thread/FDeFcBOXSZGpFjR30pyX_ghRgVmI.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=min&w=796&dpr=1&q=70)
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: FinalEleven on Wed, 04 September 2019, 03:12:44
Wow, I am extremely interested in this keyboard...I don't have a 75% yet so this would be a pretty cool addition to my collection. Would there be any color options for the case?

I'm also extremely interested in that Keycap render in the first pic haha. You can probably make novelties that references the source material if anything.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: Hell-es on Wed, 04 September 2019, 03:19:41
Wow - very nice - i think there is no chance for a hotswap pcb ?


Hope pricing is known alongside 7V - definatelly want a 75 keyb - but now its hard to decide which one ;)

Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: EMC Labs on Wed, 04 September 2019, 03:40:10
Looking like a clean and simple keyboard! I'm in if price is reasonable.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 04 September 2019, 04:40:33
Hopefully the price sits in my confort zone after shipping :P I really like the WK version!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: Surefoot on Wed, 04 September 2019, 06:12:59
Looking good, i'd get one with an ISO plate.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: Chaselicious17 on Wed, 04 September 2019, 09:40:32
This has me super interested
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: Robotical on Wed, 04 September 2019, 09:47:21
Looking great! Can't wait to see more!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: generic_frog on Wed, 04 September 2019, 11:21:13
this looks great and I am crossing my fingers hard I get my hands on this. GL!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: dannyny on Wed, 04 September 2019, 11:53:28
In for one.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: synchromatik on Wed, 04 September 2019, 11:56:08
Staggered, symmetrical F-row on 75%
YES, please.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: _rubik on Wed, 04 September 2019, 11:57:31
Very clean! Interested for sure.

For reference, what sized space bar are you rendering with?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: lbaron on Wed, 04 September 2019, 11:58:14
Awesome board!  Love the layout and symmetry of it, great job!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: MdotMaxson on Wed, 04 September 2019, 12:32:09
The win key blockers are not symmetrical. Nice try though.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: beekey on Wed, 04 September 2019, 13:24:57
This looks great. A bit simple, but I do enjoy the back view.

Probably a long shot, but: Any chance of split spacebars? Maybe 2.25 + 1.25 + 2.75 (6.25) so that they'd fit inside the Winkey spacebar and you don't have to change any mod keys. You wouldn't even need to change the plate.

Something like this:

Show Image
(https://miro.medium.com/max/3465/1*Zg5UgrOz0lUJtmVWQDxmsQ.jpeg)


Show Image
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_thread/FDeFcBOXSZGpFjR30pyX_ghRgVmI.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=min&w=796&dpr=1&q=70)

+1
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: crykn on Wed, 04 September 2019, 13:37:44
very sweet board. that first GMK render is a face melter. hope it comes to fruition.

Glad you like it! Based on the interest so far, I'm fairly hopeful that the board will come to fruition! The GMK set on the other hand was just an experiment and due to competition probably won't come to fruition for a while.

Nice and clean, consider me interested!

Holy moly. Definitely in for this one  :thumb:

Super interested to join..

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Thanks guys!

My initial thoughts are:
1. A render with GMK Olive would be sweet. I think it would look good on the silver.
2. I also wish a polycarbonate option was available.
3. Regardless of 1 and 2, I'm going to try to get in on this. This is nice.

I could see if a render for GMK Olive could be made. Unfortunately, unless a vendor with lots of experience with polycarbonate helps out, I'd rather not risk the quality control issues. But thanks for the interest!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: Lunarpie on Wed, 04 September 2019, 14:02:41
Would love to see a render with the new GMK Hammerhead Deep Water set!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: crykn on Wed, 04 September 2019, 15:03:12
Wow, I am extremely interested in this keyboard...I don't have a 75% yet so this would be a pretty cool addition to my collection. Would there be any color options for the case?

I'm also extremely interested in that Keycap render in the first pic haha. You can probably make novelties that references the source material if anything.

Thanks for the interest! The color options are currently located in the interest check survey, whichever colors get the most votes/interest will probably have renders made and should show up in the GB.

This looks great. A bit simple, but I do enjoy the back view.

Probably a long shot, but: Any chance of split spacebars? Maybe 2.25 + 1.25 + 2.75 (6.25) so that they'd fit inside the Winkey spacebar and you don't have to change any mod keys. You wouldn't even need to change the plate.

Something like this:

Show Image
(https://miro.medium.com/max/3465/1*Zg5UgrOz0lUJtmVWQDxmsQ.jpeg)


Show Image
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_thread/FDeFcBOXSZGpFjR30pyX_ghRgVmI.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=min&w=796&dpr=1&q=70)


Split spacebar is certainly not out of the question if it doesn't interfere with the existing layouts and there is decent support for it, than I don't see why I couldn't include it.

Looking like a clean and simple keyboard! I'm in if price is reasonable.  :thumb:

Thanks for the design compliments! I hope the final price is reasonable for you :thumb:

Wow - very nice - i think there is no chance for a hotswap pcb ?


Hope pricing is known alongside 7V - definatelly want a 75 keyb - but now its hard to decide which one ;)



Unless there is high demand for a hotswap PCB, then it isn't super likely, but we will see what the community is most interested in. If no hotswap PCB is released, the best option might be to solder some sockets onto the PCB to make your own.

Hopefully the price sits in my confort zone after shipping :P I really like the WK version!

I definitely hope the price is within a comfortable range for everyone that wants to get one, just depends on vendors and quantities! I should have WK renders not too long from now :)
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: plus_one on Wed, 04 September 2019, 17:12:25
This looks really great.  I love the minimalist design, and the layout is perfect.  Pending my personal finances and the cost of this board, I would definitely get one!

Can someone tell me more about the differences between a tray mount and an isolation mount?  I understand the mechanics of the mounting itself, I'm more interested in what it feels like to actually type on.
 I've read a little bit about gasket mounted boards, but I don't know what to expect in terms of the feel of the board other than a generally "softer" feel compared to the "hard points" of a tray mount.  I'd likely be using tactile switches (Zealios/Zilents), if that makes a difference.  Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: juusu on Thu, 05 September 2019, 05:39:55
This is the nicest looking in the recent string of 75% IC's, definitely interested. Hope you manage to keep the price down in the lower end of the range. :)

ISO plates are unlikely; however, this will also depend on the vendor and MOQs. Regardless, once the group buy is complete, the plates will be open sourced and an ISO plate file can be provided.

Does this mean the PCB will definitely support ISO layout, but I might need to get a custom plate cut to build an ISO board?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: andreya on Thu, 05 September 2019, 07:02:05
can we do pure 60% + F-ROW ?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: OmniSzron on Thu, 05 September 2019, 09:01:12
This board looks like... a thick SLAB of aluminium with keys on top. I absolutely love how clean this is. It really appeals to my inner minimalist.

Now here's the problem - I'm still waiting on gok101's 7V and that keyboard is an absolute stunner for completely different reasons. Getting both Dawn and 7V will be a financial struggle and if I had to choose one right now, I'd probably go with the 7V (I'm eager to try wilba's leafspring plate and I didn't get a Thermal). So what I'm saying is - if this releases after the 7V and I'll still have some savings I'd definitely try and get the WK version.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: crykn on Thu, 05 September 2019, 09:15:30
This looks really great.  I love the minimalist design, and the layout is perfect.  Pending my personal finances and the cost of this board, I would definitely get one!

Can someone tell me more about the differences between a tray mount and an isolation mount?  I understand the mechanics of the mounting itself, I'm more interested in what it feels like to actually type on.
 I've read a little bit about gasket mounted boards, but I don't know what to expect in terms of the feel of the board other than a generally "softer" feel compared to the "hard points" of a tray mount.  I'd likely be using tactile switches (Zealios/Zilents), if that makes a difference.  Thanks!

You mentioned that you already understand the mechanics, but I will go ahead and explain to the best of my ability for those who may not be familiar:

The tray mount is characterized by stiffness, especially at the mounting points. Because the plate is directly attached at the posts on the tray mount, there is essentially no flex at that point, and bottoming out the switch near those areas can be a little harsh.

Top mount takes those mounting points out from under the plate and moves them to the edges of the plate, which removes the incredibly stiff spots from the typing area. Most of the time the mounting points for top mount are only at the front or back edges of the plate, so those edges have a little less flex than the middle of the plate.

Isolation mount (or gasket mount), as far as what is being used in this board, is similar to top mount, but instead of maybe four to five screw mounting points at the front or back edge of the plate, there are three tabs that are only in contact with PORON vibration damping pads. Similar to top mount, this mounting system will have a little less flex at the front and back edge of the plate, with slightly more flex in the middle. But since the plate is not in direct contact with the case, vibration will be transmitted differently. When you bottom out the switch, the PORON will damp some of the vibrations, and the bottom out will feel slightly 'cushioned' for lack of a better word, and the sound will be slightly muted. I recommend watching a review/comparison video of the Keycult No 1/65, as I have used the same isolation material as that board, courtesy of Keycult.

Now in regard to tactile switches, the general consensus is that slightly softer plates/mounting is more comfortable to type on for long periods of time, although there is always individual preference so someone can correct me if I'm wrong. With tactile switches as you press past the bump, it can be uncomfortable to accelerate down as the resistance force decreases and bottom out into a tray mount post with zero flex. The isolation mount should give the best performance for this as the mounting is at the edges of the plate, and the PORON provides some compression and flex.

Looking good, i'd get one with an ISO plate.

This is the nicest looking in the recent string of 75% IC's, definitely interested. Hope you manage to keep the price down in the lower end of the range. :)

ISO plates are unlikely; however, this will also depend on the vendor and MOQs. Regardless, once the group buy is complete, the plates will be open sourced and an ISO plate file can be provided.

Does this mean the PCB will definitely support ISO layout, but I might need to get a custom plate cut to build an ISO board?

I will check with the person designing the PCB before confirming, but the goal would be to have the PCB support ISO layouts as long as it doesn't compromise the other layouts. If there's enough interest in ISO, it's possible an ISO plate could be offered in only the most popular material (so we don't have too low of quantities). This is speculation at this point, however, and I will try to keep you guys updated as things go forward.

Looking great! Can't wait to see more!  :thumb:

Thanks Robotical, that means a lot! I hope everything with the Knight75 turns out well!

this looks great and I am crossing my fingers hard I get my hands on this. GL!

Thanks for the support! My goal would be to run the GB with no quantity limit, but it's too early to tell how much interest there would be, as well as what restrictions on quantity a vendor would be comfortable with.

Very clean! Interested for sure.

For reference, what sized space bar are you rendering with?

The WKL layout has a 7u spacebar.

The win key blockers are not symmetrical. Nice try though.

They're as symmetrical as can be with a 75% layout, but you're technically right haha
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: MacSurfy on Fri, 06 September 2019, 02:09:13
This is legit! Love the symmetry. Will keep a close eye on this, might be time for me to go above 65%  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: bobgr8 on Fri, 06 September 2019, 10:13:01
the case looks a lot like Ai03's Polaris (from the side profile) with the exception of the centre daughter USB.

Would you consider running it with KBDfans to lower the cost and increase numbers?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: mrkantz on Fri, 06 September 2019, 10:39:36
Would you consider running it with KBDfans to lower the cost and increase numbers?

Pls no
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: lush_bunny on Fri, 06 September 2019, 10:45:44
Would you consider running it with KBDfans to lower the cost and increase numbers?

Pls no

I'm new here what's wrong with KBDFans?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: mrkantz on Fri, 06 September 2019, 10:58:10
For the price, nothing, but you get what you pay for and I've had pretty piss poor ano from them in the past. I like this board and would rather pay a premium to get something worth keeping.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: djmantis on Fri, 06 September 2019, 13:24:45
This board looks like... a thick SLAB of aluminium with keys on top. I absolutely love how clean this is. It really appeals to my inner minimalist.

Now here's the problem - I'm still waiting on gok101's 7V and that keyboard is an absolute stunner for completely different reasons. Getting both Dawn and 7V will be a financial struggle and if I had to choose one right now, I'd probably go with the 7V (I'm eager to try wilba's leafspring plate and I didn't get a Thermal). So what I'm saying is - if this releases after the 7V and I'll still have some savings I'd definitely try and get the WK version.

From what I understand, gok101's 7V will be extremely limited and expensive. I am curious about this board as a more budget friendly and available option.  :D
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: vi0till on Fri, 06 September 2019, 13:30:15
This board looks like... a thick SLAB of aluminium with keys on top. I absolutely love how clean this is. It really appeals to my inner minimalist.

Now here's the problem - I'm still waiting on gok101's 7V and that keyboard is an absolute stunner for completely different reasons. Getting both Dawn and 7V will be a financial struggle and if I had to choose one right now, I'd probably go with the 7V (I'm eager to try wilba's leafspring plate and I didn't get a Thermal). So what I'm saying is - if this releases after the 7V and I'll still have some savings I'd definitely try and get the WK version.

From what I understand, gok101's 7V will be extremely limited and expensive. I am curious about this board as a more budget friendly and available option.  :D
Yeah, wanted 7v, but i do feel this.keyboard is better choice. I love WKL.

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Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: loopaddiction on Fri, 06 September 2019, 19:05:44
There seems to be a good amount of 75%'s cropping up recently but this is the first one that really looks appealing IMO. I'm neither a fan of 75% or WKL, but I think you just converted me. Beautifully done sir, you knocked it out the park. Definitely in.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: Robosculpts on Sat, 07 September 2019, 08:01:24
filled out the IC form on this dude. man does this keybaord look great! Skeletor will look dope in this!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: crykn on Sat, 07 September 2019, 12:46:14
This is legit! Love the symmetry. Will keep a close eye on this, might be time for me to go above 65%  :cool:

Glad you like the design! 75% is definitely the best layout   ;)

This board looks like... a thick SLAB of aluminium with keys on top. I absolutely love how clean this is. It really appeals to my inner minimalist.

Now here's the problem - I'm still waiting on gok101's 7V and that keyboard is an absolute stunner for completely different reasons. Getting both Dawn and 7V will be a financial struggle and if I had to choose one right now, I'd probably go with the 7V (I'm eager to try wilba's leafspring plate and I didn't get a Thermal). So what I'm saying is - if this releases after the 7V and I'll still have some savings I'd definitely try and get the WK version.

From what I understand, gok101's 7V will be extremely limited and expensive. I am curious about this board as a more budget friendly and available option.  :D

I'll try my best to keep the board somewhat of a "budget option" (at least in reference to our hobby) and try my best to not limit the quantity as is reasonably possible!   :)

the case looks a lot like Ai03's Polaris (from the side profile) with the exception of the centre daughter USB.

Would you consider running it with KBDfans to lower the cost and increase numbers?

No, the most important thing to me is delivering a premium product, and I have nothing against KBDfans or their board quality, but it just doesn't align with my priorities.

There seems to be a good amount of 75%'s cropping up recently but this is the first one that really looks appealing IMO. I'm neither a fan of 75% or WKL, but I think you just converted me. Beautifully done sir, you knocked it out the park. Definitely in.

Thanks! To be fair, if you aren't sold on WKL, there will be a WK option available. I should have some renders for that in the next update.

filled out the IC form on this dude. man does this keybaord look great! Skeletor will look dope in this!

That sounds pretty awesome, what case color were you hoping to pair with Skeletor?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: rondg on Sat, 07 September 2019, 13:22:55
From what I understand, gok101's 7V will be extremely limited and expensive. I am curious about this board as a more budget friendly and available option.  :D

I don't know about the price, but I think it was mentioned that the goal was for it to be unlimited.

Thanks! To be fair, if you aren't sold on WKL, there will be a WK option available. I should have some renders for that in the next update.

Looking forward to the renders!

Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: crykn on Sat, 07 September 2019, 13:28:42
From what I understand, gok101's 7V will be extremely limited and expensive. I am curious about this board as a more budget friendly and available option.  :D

I don't know about the price, but I think it was mentioned that the goal was for it to be unlimited.

Thanks! To be fair, if you aren't sold on WKL, there will be a WK option available. I should have some renders for that in the next update.

Looking forward to the renders!

Yes that is the goal, but if the demand for the board is higher than previously anticipated, the quantity might be limited so that the vendor doesn't have to deal with too large of a quantity of orders. The last thing I want is to get over ambitious and have a GB with manufacturing, QC, and shipping delays.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: Robosculpts on Sat, 07 September 2019, 14:11:40

filled out the IC form on this dude. man does this keybaord look great! Skeletor will look dope in this!

That sounds pretty awesome, what case color were you hoping to pair with Skeletor?

Black for sure, but that dark blue would look pretty dope too.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: MxDuder on Sat, 07 September 2019, 14:20:16
Friendship with 7v ended. Dawn is my new best friend.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: OmniSzron on Sat, 07 September 2019, 15:10:56
Filled out the IC form. Now I'm very curious about the companion numpad. Could we get a render?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: Chumbo on Sat, 07 September 2019, 17:35:06
I honestly can't wait for there to be a rose gold case, especially on such a nice layout. This is probably the best-looking 75% board put together so far in my opinion.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: crykn on Sat, 07 September 2019, 20:20:21

filled out the IC form on this dude. man does this keybaord look great! Skeletor will look dope in this!

That sounds pretty awesome, what case color were you hoping to pair with Skeletor?

Black for sure, but that dark blue would look pretty dope too.

Black would look really cool! Skeletor has always been a pretty cool set.

Filled out the IC form. Now I'm very curious about the companion numpad. Could we get a render?

I haven't finished the number pad yet, but when I do I will make a render. I put the option in the survey to gauge interest to see if it was worth designing, and there was enough interest that I'm about to start. I know I like it when I have stuff with matching aesthetics.
 
Friendship with 7v ended. Dawn is my new best friend.

 :)

I honestly can't wait for there to be a rose gold case, especially on such a nice layout. This is probably the best-looking 75% board put together so far in my opinion.

Should have some renders eventually to help you visualize it! Thanks for the support
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: Robosculpts on Sat, 07 September 2019, 21:12:44

  • No exterior branding, especially on the top surface (although I'm considering a Founder's Edition of sorts with a special back accent if there is community support)


What were you thinking of for the Founder's Edition accent?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: jimboytacos on Sat, 07 September 2019, 22:31:24
Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
although I'm considering a Founder's Edition of sorts with a special back accent if there is community support

Usually, I do not mind inconspicuous logos and possibly extra branding, but seeing how this can get very personal, I think it might be best to do without on the exterior.
I think it'll add to the very clean look. If you are considering it, I think it on the inside weight would be nice- Like SINGA.

Consider how the IC for NR65's (A beautiful board) go out of hand because of the Logo was not everyone's cup of tea and the designer ultimately settled for something that is too similar to another brand, although other options are available or without. But just saying, it's something that could be avoided.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: LXVRGS on Sat, 07 September 2019, 23:28:14
+1 for no logos pls
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: OmniSzron on Sun, 08 September 2019, 04:30:09
I haven't finished the number pad yet, but when I do I will make a render. I put the option in the survey to gauge interest to see if it was worth designing, and there was enough interest that I'm about to start. I know I like it when I have stuff with matching aesthetics.
Glad to hear it. :thumb: I would love a matching pair.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: Benitone on Sun, 08 September 2019, 04:36:59
Interested in ISO. I think that Function keys should have standard spacing, not a spacing based on aesthetics.

I don't like big bezels because my left hand usually rests right in the corner. G80 like cases - and this one too - are painful to me.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: crykn on Sun, 08 September 2019, 15:31:35

  • No exterior branding, especially on the top surface (although I'm considering a Founder's Edition of sorts with a special back accent if there is community support)


What were you thinking of for the Founder's Edition accent?

Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
although I'm considering a Founder's Edition of sorts with a special back accent if there is community support

Usually, I do not mind inconspicuous logos and possibly extra branding, but seeing how this can get very personal, I think it might be best to do without on the exterior.
I think it'll add to the very clean look. If you are considering it, I think it on the inside weight would be nice- Like SINGA.

Consider how the IC for NR65's (A beautiful board) go out of hand because of the Logo was not everyone's cup of tea and the designer ultimately settled for something that is too similar to another brand, although other options are available or without. But just saying, it's something that could be avoided.

+1 for no logos pls

First I want to state that I will definitely not add any branding on the top surface. I briefly considered a tiny subtle engraved logo on the middle of the back of the top case, but I've since steered away from that idea.
For the Founder's Edition, I was considering two possible options:
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: Robosculpts on Sun, 08 September 2019, 22:36:48
First I want to state that I will definitely not add any branding on the top surface. I briefly considered a tiny subtle engraved logo on the middle of the back of the top case, but I've since steered away from that idea.
For the Founder's Edition, I was considering two possible options:
  • Bottom case out of a different/premium material rather than aluminum - this is a more likely option, unless quotes show that it would be prohibitively expensive
  • Small weight design protruding from the bottom of the case, I had something in mind and I'm curious how it would turn out in a render, but unless it turned out really well and the community liked the render, it's not as likely

I like the idea of a more premium case bottom. I look forward to seeing your design for the small weight.

Edit - Carbon fiber looks awesome. just throwing that out there.  A question did just come to me though. Is there going to be any foam cutouts included or as an option?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: wmc123 on Mon, 09 September 2019, 08:33:51
Chances of getting a hotswappable PCB?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: cirrus82 on Mon, 09 September 2019, 10:22:19
Big +1 for numpad. I'd get two sets if there were a matching numpad option.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: J_Noes on Mon, 09 September 2019, 10:23:56
Chances of getting a hotswappable PCB?

Would love this too.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: bobdenard on Mon, 09 September 2019, 10:46:17
Chances of getting a hotswappable PCB?

Would love this too.
Same
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: mongoose27 on Mon, 09 September 2019, 11:09:03
Beautiful layout and keyboard.  I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: Hell-es on Mon, 09 September 2019, 12:57:53
Chances of getting a hotswappable PCB?

Would love this too.
Same

As already stated - same same ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: crykn on Mon, 09 September 2019, 18:24:38
Chances of getting a hotswappable PCB?

Chances of getting a hotswappable PCB?

Would love this too.

Chances of getting a hotswappable PCB?

Would love this too.
Same

Chances of getting a hotswappable PCB?

Would love this too.
Same

As already stated - same same ;)

I've updated the FAQ to reflect this, but unfortunately hotswap is probably not going to be an option. If it's really important, then I would recommend soldering in mill max sockets, as I'm told this is a decent option. But I, and the PCB designer, really want to stick with a standard PCB with soldered switches for assembly.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: wholypantalones on Mon, 09 September 2019, 19:40:42
This might honestly pull me away from wkl tkl, so clean.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: Funktion on Mon, 09 September 2019, 23:07:20
Excited  ;D

Probably get it before my xeno...
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: Chumbo on Tue, 10 September 2019, 01:00:18
Is there a discord that we can hop on for updates?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: andtar2 on Tue, 10 September 2019, 12:11:24
Great 75%! I love the design. I'm all in if the ISO support will be available.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: loopaddiction on Tue, 10 September 2019, 14:10:07
I think overall, this is the cleanest looking board designed this year. I can't get over how nice it looks from every angle. No logo/branding is definitely the way to go here.

It would be a dilemma for me to choose between silver and space gray if those 2 colors end up being produced. In my experience, silver is hard to get right and ends up looking cheap for many aluminum products. But if it's properly done and ends up matching those renders, I think it would be impossibly difficult to pass on it.

There are a few other upcoming boards that I've heavily considered, but now have decided to forgo in favor of this one. Looking forward to it's progress!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: crykn on Tue, 10 September 2019, 15:29:49
This might honestly pull me away from wkl tkl, so clean.

I tried to make the design as clean as possible  :thumb:

Excited  ;D

Probably get it before my xeno...

Hopefully the GB doesn't take too long, I'm talking with a vendor and a manufacturer right now to hopefully get things sorted out soon.

Is there a discord that we can hop on for updates?

I'm actually working on that. A discord server of some sort will help me to keep people updated more quickly, as well as have a place to pass ideas by people and get faster more consistent feedback.

Great 75%! I love the design. I'm all in if the ISO support will be available.

I'll do my best to make sure ISO is available via some form or fashion. Since I haven't decided on the best option, I'll ask you, which do you think is the better option if ISO plate demand isn't high enough: offer ISO plate files and have people get their own, or offer ISO plate with limited material choices at a slightly higher price? I want to get feedback from users towards which they would prefer.

I think overall, this is the cleanest looking board designed this year. I can't get over how nice it looks from every angle. No logo/branding is definitely the way to go here.

It would be a dilemma for me to choose between silver and space gray if those 2 colors end up being produced. In my experience, silver is hard to get right and ends up looking cheap for many aluminum products. But if it's properly done and ends up matching those renders, I think it would be impossibly difficult to pass on it.

There are a few other upcoming boards that I've heavily considered, but now have decided to forgo in favor of this one. Looking forward to it's progress!

Thanks for your opinion, I'm really glad you like it! I should have some pictures of anodization samples with color matching available before the GB to help you decide. I'm going to keep the no logo/branding consistent because I like how clean the design looks without, with a possible exception for a founder's edition if I go that route. I'll explain this more in an official update, but I thought a simple and hopefully still clean bottom weight would be a good accent to distinguish the founders edition for those who want the exterior surface to still be clean but still have a little bit of a logo for supporting the project early on. That is open to consideration though, I'm just tossing out ideas.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: iridescent22 on Tue, 10 September 2019, 15:57:40
Would definitely join a discord for updates. Thanks for taking the time to answer questions! Any thoughts on colors so far? Really hoping for a rose gold board and this looks perfect.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: crykn on Tue, 10 September 2019, 20:03:04
Would definitely join a discord for updates. Thanks for taking the time to answer questions! Any thoughts on colors so far? Really hoping for a rose gold board and this looks perfect.

Alright, I officially created the Discord channel, the link is in the original IC post now, but here (https://discord.gg/HXZsgum) is the link! It'll be easier to discuss questions in there!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: beekey on Wed, 11 September 2019, 00:52:54
Saw in the FAQ that split space is out. :( Then this is not for me. Good luck, I think this will do well.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: Dakk1d on Wed, 11 September 2019, 01:55:17
Looks very good. Personally I'm a fan of 75% keyboards and as someone else mentioned this looks like a 75% version of the Polaris. Which is a good thing!
I will most likely join in if there's an ISO version avail.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: Surefoot on Wed, 11 September 2019, 02:41:43
(...)offer ISO plate with limited material choices at a slightly higher price ?
I would be perfectly ok with that option. Brass or POM options would be plenty enough. Add files for whoever wants to cut their own plate and that will cover everything.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: NoxNoxNox on Wed, 11 September 2019, 13:43:46
This board is pretty much the ideal 75% for me, very excited for this GB.   
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: Tekniqs on Wed, 11 September 2019, 20:11:25
i'm all in on this
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: nguyenhimself on Wed, 11 September 2019, 21:18:49
Saw in the FAQ that split space is out. :( Then this is not for me. Good luck, I think this will do well.
I just checked the FAQ again and there’s no mention of “no split spacebars”?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: sysfury on Thu, 12 September 2019, 01:00:00
I just checked the FAQ again and there’s no mention of “no split spacebars”?

It's in the FAQ in Discord. It might be updated more recently.

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Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: beekey on Thu, 12 September 2019, 01:01:28
Saw in the FAQ that split space is out. :( Then this is not for me. Good luck, I think this will do well.
I just checked the FAQ again and there’s no mention of “no split spacebars”?
Just checked again, it is at the bottom:
Quote
Will there be split space support?
No, there are currently no plans for split space support. The benefit is not as noticeable for a 75% layout, and the PCB design has important components under the space bar which would conflict with split space support.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: pppaolo_89 on Thu, 12 September 2019, 03:32:26
Where should I go to receive IMMEDIATE update for the release? Me, myself and I along with my 19 other personalities would like to be the first ones to ORDER!!!!
HELLO???
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: bassvirtuoso on Thu, 12 September 2019, 08:26:42
Where should I go to receive IMMEDIATE update for the release? Me, myself and I along with my 19 other personalities would like to be the first ones to ORDER!!!!
HELLO???

I've seen you post the same stuff over in the 7V thread: read the first post, it has all the info, including the IC survey and the discord.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: crykn on Fri, 13 September 2019, 10:08:08
I've been a little bit busier recently, so I'm a bit late on the responses.

Saw in the FAQ that split space is out. :( Then this is not for me. Good luck, I think this will do well.

Yeah, I'm sorry I couldn't offer split space support  :(  It's unfortunate but not all features can be implemented. Thanks for the feedback though! If I run future projects I will definitely consider trying to get split space support ahead of time.

This board is pretty much the ideal 75% for me, very excited for this GB.   

i'm all in on this

Thanks guys! Can't wait for the GB to come around so you guys can have an opportunity to get one  :)

Saw in the FAQ that split space is out. :( Then this is not for me. Good luck, I think this will do well.
I just checked the FAQ again and there’s no mention of “no split spacebars”?

I just checked the FAQ again and there’s no mention of “no split spacebars”?

It's in the FAQ in Discord. It might be updated more recently.

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The Discord is definitely the most up-to-date source of information, I will try to keep updating the GH semi-regularly though.

Looks very good. Personally I'm a fan of 75% keyboards and as someone else mentioned this looks like a 75% version of the Polaris. Which is a good thing!
I will most likely join in if there's an ISO version avail.

There's officially an EU vendor now (MyKeyboard), and I will see what we can do about ISO support one way or another.

Where should I go to receive IMMEDIATE update for the release? Me, myself and I along with my 19 other personalities would like to be the first ones to ORDER!!!!
HELLO???

That is definitely an interesting way to ask the question, but the most recent updates will be on the Discord server linked in the original post.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: seatran on Sun, 15 September 2019, 21:32:32
Nice work. This is my favorite looking 75% yet. Most of the other ones with staggered F keys leave space for some strange looking branding and is such an eyesore. The symmetry of this is very nice. I mentioned in my survey response that for the given price of $400-500 I'd like more customization options and optimized acoustics. Maybe two versions of the case (with and without bottom blockers) would help accommodate more layouts. I know this is a long shot, but split space option would be fantastic, especially if split into symmetrical parts.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: rrsurmeier on Sun, 15 September 2019, 21:38:50
Where should I go to receive IMMEDIATE update for the release? Me, myself and I along with my 19 other personalities would like to be the first ones to ORDER!!!!
HELLO???

You are not entitled to anything. Respect his time.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount)
Post by: crykn on Mon, 16 September 2019, 09:24:29
Nice work. This is my favorite looking 75% yet. Most of the other ones with staggered F keys leave space for some strange looking branding and is such an eyesore. The symmetry of this is very nice. I mentioned in my survey response that for the given price of $400-500 I'd like more customization options and optimized acoustics. Maybe two versions of the case (with and without bottom blockers) would help accommodate more layouts. I know this is a long shot, but split space option would be fantastic, especially if split into symmetrical parts.

Thanks! So I'm working on the flex and acoustic cuts in the plate right now actually to optimize the acoustics. There will be a WK version with only one 0.5u blocker on the right side to support more bottom layout variations, should have renders soon for that. Split space is currently not going to work on the PCB, but we will try to see if we can rearrange things to make it a possibility for those who want it, I just wouldn't set my expectations on it being available. As for other optimizations for acoustics, most of that will come from the plate material itself. If you have any other questions or more specific suggestions, feel free to join the Discord channel and send me a direct message.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: crykn on Sun, 22 September 2019, 16:50:15
Updated the prototyping info and timeline and added some more renders.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: SantiGo on Wed, 25 September 2019, 16:21:53
whant )  :eek: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: andreya on Sun, 29 September 2019, 05:57:30
any chance for the price for lower than $400/500 ?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: break on Mon, 30 September 2019, 21:15:02
any chance for the price for lower than $400/500 ?

Definitely a chance! From the OP:

Quote
However, due to the design choices, brass weight and accent, gasketing strips, and potential PVD brass finishes, it is quite possible that the GB price could end up in the $350-450 price range depending on options.

I think crykn can't share more pricing info until Salvun ships back a prototype.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: ever9415 on Mon, 30 September 2019, 22:54:08
I'd like to know the combination with GMK Firefly.
Is it possible to take a picture of you?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: crykn on Tue, 01 October 2019, 20:08:36
any chance for the price for lower than $400/500 ?

Hoping to keep the price in the $400 to $450 price range, should be doable.

I'd like to know the combination with GMK Firefly.
Is it possible to take a picture of you?

What color case do you want to see GMK Firefly on? I'll see if I can make it happen.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: Crack85 on Tue, 01 October 2019, 20:27:13
Is this going to be available to purchase in US as well?

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Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: ever9415 on Wed, 02 October 2019, 06:59:30

I'd like to know the combination with GMK Firefly.
Is it possible to take a picture of you?

What color case do you want to see GMK Firefly on? I'll see if I can make it happen.

Navy Color Case
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: crykn on Wed, 02 October 2019, 16:43:58
Is this going to be available to purchase in US as well?

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Yes, as the 9/21 update in the IC says: "We also have a US proxy lined up pending the prototype turns out well."
I'm located in the US, so although MyKeyboard will be the main logistical vendor, there will certainly be a US proxy regardless, the specifics of which proxy just haven't been disclosed yet.


I'd like to know the combination with GMK Firefly.
Is it possible to take a picture of you?

What color case do you want to see GMK Firefly on? I'll see if I can make it happen.

Navy Color Case

Alright, I'll try to get that done if possible.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: Crack85 on Wed, 02 October 2019, 17:06:20
Thanks! I'm new here, wasn't sure if that's what that meant. I will await patiently!

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Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: astronavy on Thu, 03 October 2019, 16:06:01
If it can be shipped to Canada I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: Dakk1d on Thu, 03 October 2019, 16:24:23
Any update regarding an ISO version?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: pppaolo_89 on Thu, 10 October 2019, 11:56:33
any proxy to Canada? if not, would the US GB Vendor be able to ship to Canada?

Where should I go to receive IMMEDIATE update for the release? Me, myself and I along with my 19 other personalities would like to be the first ones to ORDER!!!!
HELLO???

You are not entitled to anything. Respect his time.

Get off your high horse kid. The question only meant to gauge which communication outlet is the best and fastest way to receive information.

Where should I go to receive IMMEDIATE update for the release? Me, myself and I along with my 19 other personalities would like to be the first ones to ORDER!!!!
HELLO???

I've seen you post the same stuff over in the 7V thread: read the first post, it has all the info, including the IC survey and the discord.

If you read what I wrote, you would understand the question is asking which source is the best and fastest way to get information. The first post doesn't say discord is the best source. Which is why I asked... and thankfully I got a mature response from the thread starter.

Mod Edit: Combined multiple posts
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 10 October 2019, 14:41:07
Get off your high horse kid. The question only meant to gauge which communication outlet is the best and fastest way to receive information.

<snip>

If you read what I wrote, you would understand the question is asking which source is the best and fastest way to get information. The first post doesn't say discord is the best source. Which is why I asked... and thankfully I got a mature response from the thread starter.

You can't come barging in here making frantic demands and then get upset when people call you out on your actions.  I think you need to take a second to realize that this is an established community with standards and expectations (we don't make demands of others, and we respect each other).  If you continue to take such a brash and offensive tone towards others, the mod team can and will take appropriate action in response. 

Also, please don't triple post.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: jaminb on Sat, 12 October 2019, 13:55:06
Personally I like a little tasteful branding, so on the topic of the founders edition badge, I’m all for it. Love the board it’s an insta buy for me either way.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: Dead Encryption on Mon, 14 October 2019, 10:31:40
Heyooooo!

Digging this board, any updates of late?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: Re9456 on Thu, 17 October 2019, 07:38:54
I'm in! Need more render of other colors.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: rclewright on Thu, 17 October 2019, 12:08:19
So stoked on this board, I plan on getting one! Any updates to share? Also, I filled out the IC form with this, but would it be possible to get a blue-grey color? :o I think it could look pretty sick with the aesthetic of the board!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: AT on Sat, 19 October 2019, 09:26:05
Very clean looking keyboard  :)) , very interested .
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: crykn on Tue, 22 October 2019, 16:05:35
Personally I like a little tasteful branding, so on the topic of the founders edition badge, I’m all for it. Love the board it’s an insta buy for me either way.

As it stands now, the FE will have copper accent/weight as opposed to the brass for the standard GB, however there will be no extra badge.

I'm in! Need more render of other colors.

I'm selecting the final colors for the GB soon, and we will post official renders of those colors after.

So stoked on this board, I plan on getting one! Any updates to share? Also, I filled out the IC form with this, but would it be possible to get a blue-grey color? :o I think it could look pretty sick with the aesthetic of the board!

I don't know about blue grey this time around, but it's a color I can consider in the future.

Heyooooo!

Digging this board, any updates of late?

I post updates more frequently on the discord, but I will be updating the GeekHack post soon.

Very clean looking keyboard  :)) , very interested .

Glad you like it  :)
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: Butterbeer on Wed, 23 October 2019, 03:05:01
I think the only way to know what the actual demand is for this board is to open up the group buy for a limited time, say 5-10 minutes.

Then choose to either:

A) Raffle off buyers list for each round of production
B) FCFS off buyers list for each round of production

Ideally, at some point, sooner rather than later, a group buy would be made unlimited to address concerns for market demand.

This alleviates several issues:

1) Everyone that wants a board gets a board.
2) The aftermarket cost is less likely to be driven up by competing buyers who lost out on the buy (i.e. deters filppers)
3) Eliminates need for additional rounds
4) Eliminates waiting lists

I like the idea of a founders edition that adds inconsequential details to the build like an engraving. But I would prefer everyone have the chance for big ticket items such as the copper weight.

Why exclude people for the sake of exclusivity when everyone can benefit the same?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: ever9415 on Sun, 27 October 2019, 07:42:36
Please. Update your render picture in Geekhack.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: phorx on Sun, 27 October 2019, 09:20:21
I'm hopeful that purple will be one of the colours that makes the cut.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: Robosculpts on Thu, 07 November 2019, 07:02:49
How are the updates coming along with this project?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: regionfree on Thu, 07 November 2019, 07:16:57
Looks like they aren't ready yet, or working with the tooling with Salvun.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: twistitup on Sun, 10 November 2019, 11:45:18
I'd be very interested in PC as a plate material.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: crykn on Thu, 21 November 2019, 13:38:05
How are the updates coming along with this project?

Looks like they aren't ready yet, or working with the tooling with Salvun.

I've been waiting to make an official update until the prototypes have officially begun the production process, which should happen very shortly. Salvun's new machine is just about fully ready and I'm finalizing the weight engraving.

I'd be very interested in PC as a plate material.

I'm looking into this!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: AspiringMechKeebFan on Tue, 26 November 2019, 13:47:30
New kid on the block itt, hello everyone!

As someone who is looking into more compact designs but retaining high level of functionality, I like it. I also love separation between numbers and F-row, which makes it look way better than those who clump them together IMHO. I also have no use for scrolllock/pause keys (original or otherwise mapped). Basically, it has every thing that I am looking for in my 75%.

Any updates on the US proxy you mentioned? As things are MyKeyboard currently doesn't ship to my country and I'm not really that interested in extra hassle with mail forwarding services because it usually will result in about same shipping price and double the time.

Thanks for your work.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: crykn on Wed, 27 November 2019, 23:04:12
New kid on the block itt, hello everyone!

As someone who is looking into more compact designs but retaining high level of functionality, I like it. I also love separation between numbers and F-row, which makes it look way better than those who clump them together IMHO. I also have no use for scrolllock/pause keys (original or otherwise mapped). Basically, it has every thing that I am looking for in my 75%.

Any updates on the US proxy you mentioned? As things are MyKeyboard currently doesn't ship to my country and I'm not really that interested in extra hassle with mail forwarding services because it usually will result in about same shipping price and double the time.

Thanks for your work.

There will be 100% be a US vendor, so don't worry about that. It just hasn't been officially announced which one. All details will be available when the time comes for the founders edition raffles.

There should be a fairly big update in the next week and a half.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: VXQN on Thu, 28 November 2019, 07:38:01
I'm not usually into 75% keyboard but I absolutely love the design of this one!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: fabryrock on Wed, 04 December 2019, 11:10:47
like the design overall

but
not sure about the usb port with the brass accent. I think it cheapens the keyboard,
imo
you want the accent to shine alone not to be together with a hole for functional use.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 12/4 Prototype Production (~1-2 weeks)
Post by: crykn on Wed, 04 December 2019, 14:24:59
Updated with information regarding the prototype production.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: crykn on Wed, 04 December 2019, 15:43:46
I'm not usually into 75% keyboard but I absolutely love the design of this one!

I'm glad you like it!

like the design overall

but
not sure about the usb port with the brass accent. I think it cheapens the keyboard,
imo
you want the accent to shine alone not to be together with a hole for functional use.

That's a valid opinion, the design won't necessarily appeal to everyone, but I've gotten a lot of positive feedback on the design. Needless to say I quite like it, I think function and form can be mixed and don't necessarily need to be separate.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: fabryrock on Wed, 04 December 2019, 16:07:33


thanks for the reply
do you mind telling how is the brass accent mounted?
I see that there is aluminum underneath so I didn't figure out if it is screwed or not
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: crykn on Wed, 04 December 2019, 16:34:21


thanks for the reply
do you mind telling how is the brass accent mounted?
I see that there is aluminum underneath so I didn't figure out if it is screwed or not

I can try to attach an image at a future point in time showing how it's mounted, but it's screwed in from the bottom of the case.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: CodeMayhem on Thu, 05 December 2019, 20:02:57
I can try to attach an image at a future point in time showing how it's mounted, but it's screwed in from the bottom of the case.

do the screws for the accent extend up through to the top housing?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Update 9/21: Proto Timeline
Post by: crykn on Thu, 05 December 2019, 21:28:24
I can try to attach an image at a future point in time showing how it's mounted, but it's screwed in from the bottom of the case.

do the screws for the accent extend up through to the top housing?

No, they do not. There are two screws for the top housing hidden by the accent itself. Then the  accent is mounted by two screws going through the accent into the bottom housing.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 12/4 Prototype Production, 12/10 Numpad Survey
Post by: crykn on Tue, 10 December 2019, 12:12:50
Added a numpad survey to the main post so I can get an idea on what people would like to see for the matching numpad.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 12/4 Prototype Production, 12/10 Numpad Survey
Post by: bigboss on Tue, 10 December 2019, 16:33:54
looking great!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 12/4 Prototype Production, 12/10 Numpad Survey
Post by: Surefoot on Tue, 10 December 2019, 17:48:53
Added a numpad survey to the main post so I can get an idea on what people would like to see for the matching numpad.
Answered - that's an excellent proposal.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 12/4 Prototype Production, 12/10 Numpad Survey
Post by: Rew23 on Mon, 16 December 2019, 01:37:53
Love the dual WKL bottom row and the separated function row. Makes the 75% look way less cluttered.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 12/4 Prototype Production, 12/10 Numpad Survey
Post by: Voidec on Wed, 18 December 2019, 01:37:46
I'm totally down to buy one if avaliable
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 12/4 Prototype Production, 12/10 Numpad Survey
Post by: Cruxx_. on Fri, 27 December 2019, 04:22:21
75 sounds hot. Matching numpad sounds hotter. I want this.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 12/4 Prototype Production, 12/10 Numpad Survey
Post by: Rozalin81 on Sun, 29 December 2019, 13:05:11
Looks fantastic! Now I'm stuck deciding between this one or 7V and I don't which one to pick.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 12/4 Prototype Production, 12/10 Numpad Survey
Post by: Hell-es on Sun, 29 December 2019, 13:28:54
Looks fantastic! Now I'm stuck deciding between this one or 7V and I don't which one to pick.
as oth a wonderful, i‘m heading for both.

Dawn is limited sale, so dunno if everyone gets one.

7V is unlimited - hope Dawn sales before 7V
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 12/4 Prototype Production, 12/10 Numpad Survey
Post by: chowbabyloving on Mon, 06 January 2020, 16:12:29
Looks fantastic! Now I'm stuck deciding between this one or 7V and I don't which one to pick.
as oth a wonderful, i‘m heading for both.

Dawn is limited sale, so dunno if everyone gets one.

7V is unlimited - hope Dawn sales before 7V

They're both roughly the same price right? In the $350-500 range before shipping and fees?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 12/4 Prototype Production, 12/10 Numpad Survey
Post by: Hell-es on Tue, 07 January 2020, 17:12:29
Looks fantastic! Now I'm stuck deciding between this one or 7V and I don't which one to pick.
as oth a wonderful, i‘m heading for both.

Dawn is limited sale, so dunno if everyone gets one.

7V is unlimited - hope Dawn sales before 7V
They're both roughly the same price right? In the $350-500 range before shipping and fees?

Think Dawn has no announced price yet - gok said 7V will be quite reasonable priced

but i hope that Dawn is in that range
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 12/4 Prototype Production, 12/10 Numpad Survey
Post by: chowbabyloving on Wed, 08 January 2020, 00:30:24
Looks fantastic! Now I'm stuck deciding between this one or 7V and I don't which one to pick.
as oth a wonderful, i‘m heading for both.

Dawn is limited sale, so dunno if everyone gets one.

7V is unlimited - hope Dawn sales before 7V
They're both roughly the same price right? In the $350-500 range before shipping and fees?

Think Dawn has no announced price yet - gok said 7V will be quite reasonable priced

but i hope that Dawn is in that range

I thought the Dawn IC form suggests it’s $400-500? Asking how many boards someone would buy in that price range?

And I thought gok said the 7V would definitely not be $650 and hopefully not $550 or $450, but then he said he didn’t want to fix a price yet because of vendors and manufacturing costs etc?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 12/4 Prototype Production, 12/10 Numpad Survey
Post by: crykn on Wed, 08 January 2020, 09:59:13
Updated the post with raw machined prototype pictures.

Looks fantastic! Now I'm stuck deciding between this one or 7V and I don't which one to pick.
as oth a wonderful, i‘m heading for both.

Dawn is limited sale, so dunno if everyone gets one.

7V is unlimited - hope Dawn sales before 7V
They're both roughly the same price right? In the $350-500 range before shipping and fees?

Think Dawn has no announced price yet - gok said 7V will be quite reasonable priced

but i hope that Dawn is in that range

I thought the Dawn IC form suggests it’s $400-500? Asking how many boards someone would buy in that price range?

And I thought gok said the 7V would definitely not be $650 and hopefully not $550 or $450, but then he said he didn’t want to fix a price yet because of vendors and manufacturing costs etc?

I originally said between $350 and $450 in the IC post, considering that's a fairly safe range; but in the IC survey I ended up putting $400 to $500 to be safe and to account for the fact that it might be more expensive than the initial range. I don't have the official numbers yet, so stay tuned, but I would say it should definitely be in the $400 to $500 range. I hope that wasn't confusing  :)
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 12/4 Prototype Production, 12/10 Numpad Survey
Post by: chowbabyloving on Wed, 08 January 2020, 17:26:01
Updated the post with raw machined prototype pictures.

Looks fantastic! Now I'm stuck deciding between this one or 7V and I don't which one to pick.
as oth a wonderful, i‘m heading for both.

Dawn is limited sale, so dunno if everyone gets one.

7V is unlimited - hope Dawn sales before 7V
They're both roughly the same price right? In the $350-500 range before shipping and fees?

Think Dawn has no announced price yet - gok said 7V will be quite reasonable priced

but i hope that Dawn is in that range

I thought the Dawn IC form suggests it’s $400-500? Asking how many boards someone would buy in that price range?

And I thought gok said the 7V would definitely not be $650 and hopefully not $550 or $450, but then he said he didn’t want to fix a price yet because of vendors and manufacturing costs etc?

I originally said between $350 and $450 in the IC post, considering that's a fairly safe range; but in the IC survey I ended up putting $400 to $500 to be safe and to account for the fact that it might be more expensive than the initial range. I don't have the official numbers yet, so stay tuned, but I would say it should definitely be in the $400 to $500 range. I hope that wasn't confusing  :)

That's before shipping and paypal fees?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 1/8 Update: Proto Pictures (Before Anodizing)
Post by: Crack85 on Wed, 08 January 2020, 18:05:41
Yes

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Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 1/8 Update: Proto Pictures (Before Anodizing)
Post by: jurisitum on Fri, 10 January 2020, 11:36:44
Definitely onboard! Looking forward and hopefully before 7V!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 1/8 Update: Proto Pictures (Before Anodizing)
Post by: dhb82 on Fri, 10 January 2020, 14:28:18
Been looking for this layout for a long time. Excited! All in 😃
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 1/8 Update: Proto Pictures (Before Anodizing)
Post by: Rilow on Wed, 15 January 2020, 14:34:45
So ready for this.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 1/18: Color Poll Added
Post by: crykn on Sat, 18 January 2020, 18:50:21
Added a link to a poll to the main body of the post to pick the final standard edition colors:
https://forms.gle/nKf8EqSzMyR7qzyX7 (https://forms.gle/nKf8EqSzMyR7qzyX7)
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 1/18: Color Poll Added
Post by: slxdegrees on Sun, 19 January 2020, 18:44:58
Wew the dark red is gorgeous. Gonna be very disappointed if it doesn't make the final cut.

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Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 1/18: Color Poll Added
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 19 January 2020, 20:29:31
Totally on board (hehe) with this. Really want a 75% for gaming at home.

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Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: crykn on Fri, 07 February 2020, 11:23:24
Posted unbuilt prototype progress pictures from Salvun!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: rkarp on Fri, 07 February 2020, 11:38:19
Posted unbuilt prototype progress pictures from Salvun!

Looking Great!  It’s the symmetry that does it for me.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 07 February 2020, 17:07:32
Posted unbuilt prototype progress pictures from Salvun!

Looking Great!  It’s the symmetry that does it for me.
Exactly this. It just makes it a beauty to look at.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: Fearian on Sat, 08 February 2020, 18:34:38
I'm just going to be echoing other comments, but wow, this is the best 75% layout I've seen. I've been looking for something like this for a while.

I really appreciate the "no visible seam" goal for the sides as well. The whole design looks wonderfully clean, I'm really excited for the GB. As long as there is some kind of room for ISO support, I'm all in! :)
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: crykn on Sun, 09 February 2020, 16:32:33
I'm just going to be echoing other comments, but wow, this is the best 75% layout I've seen. I've been looking for something like this for a while.

I really appreciate the "no visible seam" goal for the sides as well. The whole design looks wonderfully clean, I'm really excited for the GB. As long as there is some kind of room for ISO support, I'm all in! :)

The PCB supports ISO, but there aren't plans to offer the ISO plate in the GB due to low demand. However, I will release plate files after the GB if you want to get a plate made somewhere.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: Fearian on Sun, 09 February 2020, 17:44:54
The PCB supports ISO, but there aren't plans to offer the ISO plate in the GB due to low demand. However, I will release plate files after the GB if you want to get a plate made somewhere.

That's good enough for me!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: bthezebra on Mon, 10 February 2020, 11:22:25
Very much looking forward to the build of the prototype!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: Magas on Mon, 02 March 2020, 09:52:12
Any update on this?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: AspiringMechKeebFan on Mon, 02 March 2020, 11:48:42
Any update on this?
Prototype has been delivered to OP, it had troubles with accent not fitting correctly. As of now, new CAD schematic is being designed to fix the issue. Raffle/GB TBA after second prototype. Detailed info can be found in Discord.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: crykn on Sun, 08 March 2020, 10:03:08
Any update on this?
Prototype has been delivered to OP, it had troubles with accent not fitting correctly. As of now, new CAD schematic is being designed to fix the issue. Raffle/GB TBA after second prototype. Detailed info can be found in Discord.

Correct with the exception of the fact that I haven't gotten the prototype quite yet!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 1/18: Color Poll Added
Post by: kbye on Mon, 09 March 2020, 23:04:21
Added a link to a poll to the main body of the post to pick the final standard edition colors:
https://forms.gle/nKf8EqSzMyR7qzyX7 (https://forms.gle/nKf8EqSzMyR7qzyX7)

Late to the party on this, what were the final colors? Did white make the cut?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: AspiringMechKeebFan on Tue, 10 March 2020, 00:00:34
Added a link to a poll to the main body of the post to pick the final standard edition colors:
https://forms.gle/nKf8EqSzMyR7qzyX7 (https://forms.gle/nKf8EqSzMyR7qzyX7)

Late to the party on this, what were the final colors? Did white make the cut?
It did for Founders Edition.

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Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: MasterTi on Sun, 15 March 2020, 12:31:28
Looking forward to this!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: MasterTi on Sun, 15 March 2020, 22:37:20
Is there an idea of how limited this board is? Trying to decide between the 7V by Gok and this.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: hingchannnn on Mon, 16 March 2020, 02:25:00
Is there an idea of how limited this board is? Trying to decide between the 7V by Gok and this.

100 standard edition, 30 Founder Edition
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: Zeelobby on Wed, 18 March 2020, 22:36:00
You have any pics of what the updated plate might look like? Feel like the plate design is what makes the KC mount system work.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Fri, 20 March 2020, 20:03:47
I don't know how much traction the numpad idea is gaining, but I would be in for one. I don't think I can justify the 75% both because of cost and the number of boards I already own, but I can definitely do a numpad. I don't have a separate numpad at this time and would love a high quality one.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: crykn on Sat, 21 March 2020, 10:57:24
I don't know how much traction the numpad idea is gaining, but I would be in for one. I don't think I can justify the 75% both because of cost and the number of boards I already own, but I can definitely do a numpad. I don't have a separate numpad at this time and would love a high quality one.

It's gained quite a bit of traction I would say. At the very least I expect to eventually post an IC for one. The survey gives me data on what percentage of people who want Dawn want a numpad as well, but an IC will be helpful in gauging interest from people like yourself, who want a numpad but not Dawn.

I will be working more on the numpad design once I'm confident Dawn is ready for production.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Sat, 21 March 2020, 11:56:15
I don't know how much traction the numpad idea is gaining, but I would be in for one. I don't think I can justify the 75% both because of cost and the number of boards I already own, but I can definitely do a numpad. I don't have a separate numpad at this time and would love a high quality one.

It's gained quite a bit of traction I would say. At the very least I expect to eventually post an IC for one. The survey gives me data on what percentage of people who want Dawn want a numpad as well, but an IC will be helpful in gauging interest from people like yourself, who want a numpad but not Dawn.

I will be working more on the numpad design once I'm confident Dawn is ready for production.

Awesome! Best of luck with Dawn, and I look forward to that IC and hopefully the numpad eventually! I'll keep an eye out for it. Hope you're staying healthy during these trying times.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: Owl on Sat, 21 March 2020, 13:39:00
I've been lurking/following this for a while now. Don't know why I didn't say something before but this board is gorgeous. This is the board that I am most excited about period. It has all of my favorite design languages, features, layouts, everything. I am impatiently waiting to buy at least 2 of these when the group buy goes live. Thank you for designing this and I really hope everything goes well for you.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: nappis on Sat, 21 March 2020, 14:00:44
I've been lurking/following this for a while now. Don't know why I didn't say something before but this board is gorgeous. This is the board that I am most excited about period. It has all of my favorite design languages, features, layouts, everything. I am impatiently waiting to buy at least 2 of these when the group buy goes live. Thank you for designing this and I really hope everything goes well for you.
I doubt that you'll be able to buy two boards. You have to enter and win in the raffle to buy the board.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: Crack85 on Sat, 21 March 2020, 14:07:08
I've been lurking/following this for a while now. Don't know why I didn't say something before but this board is gorgeous. This is the board that I am most excited about period. It has all of my favorite design languages, features, layouts, everything. I am impatiently waiting to buy at least 2 of these when the group buy goes live. Thank you for designing this and I really hope everything goes well for you.
LMAO, good luck getting one board. Interest is super high, amount is super limited and you have to win raffle lol.

Two boards lol.....

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Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: AspiringMechKeebFan on Sat, 21 March 2020, 14:38:33
LMAO, good luck getting one board. Interest is super high, amount is super limited and you have to win raffle lol.

Two boards lol.....

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You have to win raffle only for FE, SE is, however, FCFS.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: crykn on Thu, 26 March 2020, 09:31:23
I don't know how much traction the numpad idea is gaining, but I would be in for one. I don't think I can justify the 75% both because of cost and the number of boards I already own, but I can definitely do a numpad. I don't have a separate numpad at this time and would love a high quality one.

It's gained quite a bit of traction I would say. At the very least I expect to eventually post an IC for one. The survey gives me data on what percentage of people who want Dawn want a numpad as well, but an IC will be helpful in gauging interest from people like yourself, who want a numpad but not Dawn.

I will be working more on the numpad design once I'm confident Dawn is ready for production.

Awesome! Best of luck with Dawn, and I look forward to that IC and hopefully the numpad eventually! I'll keep an eye out for it. Hope you're staying healthy during these trying times.

Thanks! Hope you stay healthy as well  :)

I've been lurking/following this for a while now. Don't know why I didn't say something before but this board is gorgeous. This is the board that I am most excited about period. It has all of my favorite design languages, features, layouts, everything. I am impatiently waiting to buy at least 2 of these when the group buy goes live. Thank you for designing this and I really hope everything goes well for you.

Thanks! Like the others said getting 2 boards is highly unlikely. I wish I could promise that everyone who is interested will get even one board, but I can't promise that either unfortunately. Best of luck to you in joining the GB, the Discord is the best way to make sure you don't miss anything  :)
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | 2/7 Unbuilt Prototype Pictures
Post by: Owl on Thu, 26 March 2020, 10:26:47
I don't know how much traction the numpad idea is gaining, but I would be in for one. I don't think I can justify the 75% both because of cost and the number of boards I already own, but I can definitely do a numpad. I don't have a separate numpad at this time and would love a high quality one.

It's gained quite a bit of traction I would say. At the very least I expect to eventually post an IC for one. The survey gives me data on what percentage of people who want Dawn want a numpad as well, but an IC will be helpful in gauging interest from people like yourself, who want a numpad but not Dawn.

I will be working more on the numpad design once I'm confident Dawn is ready for production.

Awesome! Best of luck with Dawn, and I look forward to that IC and hopefully the numpad eventually! I'll keep an eye out for it. Hope you're staying healthy during these trying times.

Thanks! Hope you stay healthy as well  :)

I've been lurking/following this for a while now. Don't know why I didn't say something before but this board is gorgeous. This is the board that I am most excited about period. It has all of my favorite design languages, features, layouts, everything. I am impatiently waiting to buy at least 2 of these when the group buy goes live. Thank you for designing this and I really hope everything goes well for you.

Thanks! Like the others said getting 2 boards is highly unlikely. I wish I could promise that everyone who is interested will get even one board, but I can't promise that either unfortunately. Best of luck to you in joining the GB, the Discord is the best way to make sure you don't miss anything  :)

Ah I spaced on that. Well I will certainly be chalking up my F5 finger to get at least one and hunting the aftermarket for another perhaps haha. Excellent work though and I hope everything goes smoothly for you. Thank you again.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Prototype Picture Teaser
Post by: crykn on Thu, 09 April 2020, 13:21:49
Posted a prototype picture teaser, there will be a full album posted soon!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Prototype Picture Teaser
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 10 April 2020, 01:21:04
It looks beautiful and heavy.  Looking forward to more pics.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Prototype Picture Teaser
Post by: MrFixIT12 on Sun, 26 April 2020, 12:51:44
Very nice! Just found this one, hope I can get it on the FE or at least SE.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Prototype Picture Teaser
Post by: soloplayer on Wed, 27 May 2020, 08:08:54
any update?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Prototype Picture Teaser
Post by: crykn on Sun, 05 July 2020, 12:55:32
any update?

I apologize for not keeping the GH post as up to date, the Discord is my main source of information for the progress. But just to answer your question, there is going to be a second prototype made - the modifications have already been made - and we are currently waiting in Salvun's queue!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn (75% Isolation Mount) | Prototype Picture Teaser
Post by: DERBS on Sat, 11 July 2020, 22:50:48
any update?

Yes, this board is now a 40%, asymmetrical blockers, 4.5u spacebar, and Crykin removed the f key from the alphas so we cant pay respects to the old layout.

This board is bad now, pls dont buy :)
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Final Prototype Made - Raffle Soon
Post by: crykn on Sun, 03 January 2021, 18:45:42
Made a long overdue update on the status of this board, the second prototype is done and I expect to hold a raffle soon, but the details are not finalized. I wanted to make sure people who originally followed this thread but opted not to join the Discord server, or people that browse GeekHack and haven't seen the board but are potentially interested, would be able to see the information. I will make a GB thread when the details are ready and link to it in this post, or you can join the Discord server for updates as well.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Final Prototype Made - Raffle Soon
Post by: treeleaf64 on Sun, 03 January 2021, 18:50:46
Made a long overdue update on the status of this board, the second prototype is done and I expect to hold a raffle soon, but the details are not finalized. I wanted to make sure people who originally followed this thread but opted not to join the Discord server, or people that browse GeekHack and haven't seen the board but are potentially interested, would be able to see the information. I will make a GB thread when the details are ready and link to it in this post, or you can join the Discord server for updates as well.
More pics, please?  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Final Prototype Made - Raffle Soon
Post by: crykn on Sun, 03 January 2021, 18:59:20
Made a long overdue update on the status of this board, the second prototype is done and I expect to hold a raffle soon, but the details are not finalized. I wanted to make sure people who originally followed this thread but opted not to join the Discord server, or people that browse GeekHack and haven't seen the board but are potentially interested, would be able to see the information. I will make a GB thread when the details are ready and link to it in this post, or you can join the Discord server for updates as well.
More pics, please?  :thumb:
I will have to take some more pictures in the next couple of days with better lighting, and I'll see if I can make a build log/typing test video next weekend when I have a chance. For now, the pictures in the main body of the post will have to suffice  :)

There should also be a build stream before any raffle would occur, so that everyone has a chance to really see the board!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Final Prototype Made - Raffle Soon
Post by: soloplayer on Sun, 03 January 2021, 19:50:35
so i assume the raffle is for FE version only, right?
how about the SE version?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Final Prototype Made - Raffle Soon
Post by: El_Jackador on Mon, 04 January 2021, 03:48:39
Love the look of this board, cant wait to see what colours you're choosing!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Final Prototype Made - Raffle Soon
Post by: Hell-es on Mon, 04 January 2021, 03:54:56
colors already announced in discord - white / gray / black for fe - and se ... i forgot, no white
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Final Prototype Made - Raffle Soon
Post by: El_Jackador on Mon, 04 January 2021, 08:09:58
Oooooooooo a WKL ISO 75% in grey! I'm definitley in for this!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Final Prototype Made - Raffle Soon
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Mon, 04 January 2021, 10:30:37
Made a long overdue update on the status of this board, the second prototype is done and I expect to hold a raffle soon, but the details are not finalized. I wanted to make sure people who originally followed this thread but opted not to join the Discord server, or people that browse GeekHack and haven't seen the board but are potentially interested, would be able to see the information. I will make a GB thread when the details are ready and link to it in this post, or you can join the Discord server for updates as well.
Any deets you can share on when people can get this board? And third party reviewers?
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Final Prototype Made - Raffle Soon
Post by: crykn on Mon, 04 January 2021, 18:46:41
so i assume the raffle is for FE version only, right?
how about the SE version?

Yes, the upcoming raffle is for the Founders Edition. A larger quantity of boards will be available for the Dawn pre-order after the FE production run delivers, those will have brass accents rather than the copper accents of the FE boards.

Made a long overdue update on the status of this board, the second prototype is done and I expect to hold a raffle soon, but the details are not finalized. I wanted to make sure people who originally followed this thread but opted not to join the Discord server, or people that browse GeekHack and haven't seen the board but are potentially interested, would be able to see the information. I will make a GB thread when the details are ready and link to it in this post, or you can join the Discord server for updates as well.
Any deets you can share on when people can get this board? And third party reviewers?

I just need to finalize the pricing so I can announce the raffle date. Also, there will be a build stream which I'll announce when the raffle details are ready! Should be in the next week or so that those details are available.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Final Prototype Made - Raffle Soon
Post by: Starius on Wed, 06 January 2021, 22:29:46
colors already announced in discord - white / gray / black for fe - and se ... i forgot, no white

No Navy?  Shoot.  That navy render is why I subscribed to this thread.  Oh well, still a nice looking board!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Final Prototype Made - Raffle Soon
Post by: Hell-es on Thu, 07 January 2021, 05:08:44
colors already announced in discord - white / gray / black for fe - and se ... i forgot, no white

No Navy?  Shoot.  That navy render is why I subscribed to this thread.  Oh well, still a nice looking board!
i forgot colors for the standard dawn run. Just for FE there are the 3
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Final Prototype Made - Raffle Soon
Post by: Starius on Thu, 07 January 2021, 09:03:29
colors already announced in discord - white / gray / black for fe - and se ... i forgot, no white

No Navy?  Shoot.  That navy render is why I subscribed to this thread.  Oh well, still a nice looking board!
i forgot colors for the standard dawn run. Just for FE there are the 3

Ah, okay, thanks for the clarification.   :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Final Prototype Made - Raffle Soon
Post by: crykn on Sat, 09 January 2021, 19:11:08
so i assume the raffle is for FE version only, right?
how about the SE version?

Actually, there has been a slight change of plans to offer the FE and standard Dawn concurrently to make more boards available sooner, but I'll post the exact details soon once the pricing and vendors are finalized.

colors already announced in discord - white / gray / black for fe - and se ... i forgot, no white

No Navy?  Shoot.  That navy render is why I subscribed to this thread.  Oh well, still a nice looking board!

Salvun is actually in the middle of changing anodizers, so the colors might change just a bit. I'm not sure if Navy will be an option, but I wanted to let you know the final colors will be posted once the sale details are finalized.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Prototype Build Stream 1/21 | GB Soon
Post by: crykn on Tue, 19 January 2021, 19:06:29
Added details about a build stream of one of the second prototypes by Poesjuh (https://twitch.tv/P0esjuh (https://twitch.tv/P0esjuh)) scheduled for Thursday 1/21 at 20:00 GMT+1
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Prototype Build Stream 1/21 | GB Soon
Post by: highpur on Tue, 19 January 2021, 19:57:14
Beautiful keyboard, best of luck for the GB.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Final Prototype Made - Raffle Soon
Post by: Starius on Wed, 20 January 2021, 20:30:07



No Navy?  Shoot.  That navy render is why I subscribed to this thread.  Oh well, still a nice looking board!

Salvun is actually in the middle of changing anodizers, so the colors might change just a bit. I'm not sure if Navy will be an option, but I wanted to let you know the final colors will be posted once the sale details are finalized.

Ah, thank you for the update on that!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Prototype Build Stream 1/21 | GB Soon
Post by: shortdog6 on Wed, 20 January 2021, 22:36:17
This is beautiful
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Prototype Build Stream 1/21 | GB Soon
Post by: SleepyJacky on Wed, 03 March 2021, 19:56:37
Very clean. Going to try and shoot for a version in white if possible  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Prototype Build Stream 1/21 | GB Soon
Post by: MQLYU on Tue, 09 March 2021, 06:47:30
Reserved
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Prototype Build Stream 1/21 | GB Soon
Post by: braindont on Sat, 24 April 2021, 04:13:25
I want this. Interested
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Prototype Build Stream 1/21 | GB Soon
Post by: Kronenbourg1664 on Sat, 24 April 2021, 04:23:03
sad that this won't have a hotswap option, would be an instant buy from me
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Prototype Build Stream 1/21 | GB Soon
Post by: UGunaLOSE on Sun, 25 April 2021, 07:57:12
Lovely! Layout is, imo, prime 75% layout,

GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Final Prototype Made - Raffle Soon
Post by: Rynxe on Tue, 27 April 2021, 04:25:36
Just have to +1 for the Dark Navy, hoping that Salvun can make it happen.

so i assume the raffle is for FE version only, right?
how about the SE version?

Actually, there has been a slight change of plans to offer the FE and standard Dawn concurrently to make more boards available sooner, but I'll post the exact details soon once the pricing and vendors are finalized.

colors already announced in discord - white / gray / black for fe - and se ... i forgot, no white

No Navy?  Shoot.  That navy render is why I subscribed to this thread.  Oh well, still a nice looking board!

Salvun is actually in the middle of changing anodizers, so the colors might change just a bit. I'm not sure if Navy will be an option, but I wanted to let you know the final colors will be posted once the sale details are finalized.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Prototype Build Stream 1/21 | GB Soon
Post by: Finite on Fri, 28 May 2021, 16:29:26
I think this is the best layout that 75% can offer, especially the WKL version. I seriously hope this enters GB soon since I cannot think of a better 75% ever being made. I will 100% be willing to sell my current 75% just to be able to afford this.
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | Prototype Build Stream 1/21 | GB Soon
Post by: tarokeebs on Sun, 22 August 2021, 20:56:43
you've got to love this layout!
Title: Re: [IC] Dawn | FE Raffle 10/29
Post by: crykn on Wed, 27 October 2021, 07:20:58
Link to GB thread added