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Title: That thing with the baltimore bridge
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 28 March 2024, 15:21:28
Watch, they're gonna use it as an excuse to raise prices on everything. Related or not.

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Title: Re: That thing with the baltimore bridge
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 28 March 2024, 15:45:48
Quote from: tp4tissue on Thu, 28 March 2024, 15:21:28
Watch, they're gonna use it as an excuse to raise bridges

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Title: Re: That thing with the baltimore bridge
Post by: xjack312 on Thu, 28 March 2024, 15:53:32
Drove it daily for my last job, still creeps me out thinking about it
Title: Re: That thing with the baltimore bridge
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 28 March 2024, 16:09:23
This article provides a pretty good explanation:

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Title: Re: That thing with the baltimore bridge
Post by: Rob27shred on Thu, 28 March 2024, 16:11:20
Quote from: xjack312 on Thu, 28 March 2024, 15:53:32
Drove it daily for my last job, still creeps me out thinking about it

Bridges are creepy period since we've let our road system get into such disrepair. I live in Pgh., PA & get anxious every time I get stuck in traffic on one of our bridges. When big trucks come over & your sitting on them you can literally feel the bounce caused by the weight of the trucks! Also when that bridge collapsed on 35W in Minneapolis years ago, I was literally driving there for work & my route was supposed to go right over it. So that has always stuck in my head too. Oh also TP, you're right. The price of everything is gonna skyrocket cause of this one whether it's something that would come through the B-more port or not. Gas already went up $0.04 a gal overnight here in Pgh......
Title: Re: That thing with the baltimore bridge
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 28 March 2024, 16:17:17
On the stupid interviews, they're already crying mommy saying things like, OMG this one port does half million tons of LNG a month.

That's around 1.7% of US LNG, spread across all east coast ports, that's nothing.
Title: Re: That thing with the baltimore bridge
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 28 March 2024, 16:21:20
Quote from: Rob27shred on Thu, 28 March 2024, 16:11:20
Bridges are creepy period since we've let our road system get into such disrepair. I live in Pgh., PA & get anxious every time I get stuck in traffic on one of our bridges. When big trucks come over & your sitting on them you can literally feel the bounce caused by the weight of the trucks!

Yup,yup The new york bridges arn't any better, traffic every morning, the whole bridge is shaking even when nothing's moving.
Title: Re: That thing with the baltimore bridge
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 28 March 2024, 17:04:26
Whenever I hear some moron say "small government" as if that is something good, I shake my head in disbelief.

This is the modern world - we NEED a whole lot of BIG  THINGS and who is supposed to do that?

Do they imagine that a "private bridge company" would do a better job?
Title: Re: That thing with the baltimore bridge
Post by: G on Thu, 28 March 2024, 21:09:49
Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 28 March 2024, 17:04:26
Whenever I hear some moron say "small government" as if that is something good, I shake my head in disbelief.

This is the modern world - we NEED a whole lot of BIG  THINGS and who is supposed to do that?

Do they imagine that a "private bridge company" would do a better job?

I guess the important distinction is between "big" as in "involved" and "big" as in "tyrannical". One might imagine other more federated, syndicalist forms of ruling bodies that may be just as, if not more coordinated, as well as "smaller" in the sense of being more democratic and promoting more autonomy and free association, but I digress. You're not entirely wrong in your observation that most "small guberment" types find regulation itself to be authoritarian, and would naively entrust private companies with infrastructure management.
More order is needed, this does not mean that the government needs more power to order people around.
Title: Re: That thing with the baltimore bridge
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 29 March 2024, 03:06:58
Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 28 March 2024, 17:04:26
Whenever I hear some moron say "small government" as if that is something good, I shake my head in disbelief.

This is the modern world - we NEED a whole lot of BIG  THINGS and who is supposed to do that?

Do they imagine that a "private bridge company" would do a better job?

If we could, I think we should make "small government" mean something else than what greedy interests are trying to sell to us as a quick solution.
In my opinion, we need both big central and small local governments: to both do great things and to give people more local control: more democracy, not less.
Title: Re: That thing with the baltimore bridge
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 29 March 2024, 07:23:29
The primary problem with big government is misappropriation of resources.

The government links with large industries, all the biggest contracts are government ones. The government hands out these contracts and carpet baggers enrich themselves, while the JOB either doesn't get done or is done poorly.

So where's the problem,  it's not the government structure, it's something far more fundamental.

HUMANS,  big (leaders) and small (flock), without oversight will invariably BUILD MONUMENTS to themselves. This takes many forms, big houses, multiple houses, expensive vanity goods, actual self monuments/sculptures, etc.

We as a species have conquered every human need.  All we have left are excessive wants that are near universally a waste of resources.

Conquer Excessive-wants at the Personal level, and the system will auto-correct.


HOW do we do that. Communism. It's never worked before, because we've never truly had it.

 Codify, if anyone builds a monument to themselves,  OFF WITH THEIR HEADS.

Sports cars, luxury watches, no problem, Everyone gets to drive it, it'll blow up in about a week, but we'll build more.  But you build a million sports cars just to sit in rich guy's garages, as is the current system, That's WASTE.

If we do no fix the ideological flaws in human society, no form of government will work, it always defaults to the SAME-thing.  Oligarchy.