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Offline 1pq

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Re: Why Ergo Clears?
« Reply #100 on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 21:38:02 »
This is true, but I just want point out that my custom aluminum plate seems to sit a decent amount lower than the stock filco one. Perhaps I'm just imagining things, though.
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Re: Why Ergo Clears?
« Reply #101 on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 21:43:31 »
Here it is.
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Re: Why Ergo Clears?
« Reply #102 on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 21:49:20 »
With a Keycool you will have to desolder each switch in order to open it.
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Re: Why Ergo Clears?
« Reply #103 on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 21:53:55 »
Pretty much every non community made board requires desoldering to remove switches
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Re: Why Ergo Clears?
« Reply #104 on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 21:55:19 »
That isn't made by cherry, or isn't a Poker, or an ergodox. So, not really :p
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Re: Why Ergo Clears?
« Reply #105 on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 21:58:42 »
Oh that sucks.  I don't think I'm willing to go through that surgery.

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Re: Why Ergo Clears?
« Reply #106 on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 22:05:06 »
If you don't want to mess around, you should buy a G80-3000 for cheap and muck around. You won't have to get your hands dirty with soldering, and you can play around with springs and lube and such.
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Re: Why Ergo Clears?
« Reply #107 on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 22:11:09 »
OK so my Poker X pcb mounted switches are good candidates for moding...hehe.
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Re: Why Ergo Clears?
« Reply #108 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 05:28:43 »
What is a good TKL board to buy where it is easy to change all the switches to clears?  I bought a board with Clears built-in, not knowing it would be difficult to open the switches up.
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Re: Why Ergo Clears?
« Reply #109 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 08:15:13 »
I don't know of any PCB mounted TKLs, but you might be able to pick up a custom TKL with a plate that allows for customization in the classifieds. You could also pick up a G80-1800, which is closer to a TK layout.
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Re: Why Ergo Clears?
« Reply #110 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 08:20:27 »
Quote from: robertsig on Tue, 11 February 2014, 05:28:43
What is a good TKL board to buy where it is easy to change all the switches to clears?  I bought a board with Clears built-in, not knowing it would be difficult to open the switches up.


You could buy the phantom listed here http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54030.0
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Re: Why Ergo Clears?
« Reply #111 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 08:23:33 »
I think the point was so he didn't have to solder, though.

Quote from: robertsig on Mon, 10 February 2014, 21:58:42
Oh that sucks.  I don't think I'm willing to go through that surgery.
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Re: Why Ergo Clears?
« Reply #112 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 08:27:20 »
Quote from: 1pq on Tue, 11 February 2014, 08:23:33
I think the point was so he didn't have to solder, though.

Quote from: robertsig on Mon, 10 February 2014, 21:58:42
Oh that sucks.  I don't think I'm willing to go through that surgery.

The phantom allows for switch top removal.
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Re: Why Ergo Clears?
« Reply #113 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 08:28:58 »
Oops, I didn't click on the link and thought you were liking him to a PCB, not an assembled board with a phantom. :rolleyes:
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Re: Why Ergo Clears?
« Reply #114 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 09:14:00 »
Well, I already bought the keyboard.  It would probably come out to the same price if I just found someone here was was more handy with a soldering iron than me, and pay him.  :)
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Re: Why Ergo Clears?
« Reply #115 on: Wed, 19 February 2014, 10:36:51 »
I just swapped some of the stock clears on my custom filco with 62g korean springs, and I have to say...this is the most excited I've been about a keyboard since I tried topre. Know that I'm a little biased, since I usually prefer lighter keyswitches, but I much prefer 62g springs to the stock clear ones. They make the switch feel much more tactile.
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Re: Why Ergo Clears?
« Reply #116 on: Wed, 19 February 2014, 11:27:41 »
Quote from: 1pq on Wed, 19 February 2014, 10:36:51
Know that I'm a little biased, since I usually prefer lighter keyswitches, but I much prefer 62g springs to the stock clear ones. They make the switch feel much more tactile.
The 62g Korean springs ARE lighter than the stock clear ones.
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Re: Why Ergo Clears?
« Reply #117 on: Wed, 19 February 2014, 11:29:00 »
Quote from: robertsig on Wed, 19 February 2014, 11:27:41
Quote from: 1pq on Wed, 19 February 2014, 10:36:51
Know that I'm a little biased, since I usually prefer lighter keyswitches, but I much prefer 62g springs to the stock clear ones. They make the switch feel much more tactile.
The 62g Korean springs ARE lighter than the stock clear ones.

Very much so. 62g Korean springs are almost equivalent to stock blue/red/brown springs.
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Re: Why Ergo Clears?
« Reply #118 on: Wed, 19 February 2014, 11:31:05 »
... He realizes that. That's why he's saying that he's biased :).
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Re: Why Ergo Clears?
« Reply #119 on: Wed, 19 February 2014, 11:31:11 »
Quote from: robertsig on Wed, 19 February 2014, 11:27:41
Quote from: 1pq on Wed, 19 February 2014, 10:36:51
Know that I'm a little biased, since I usually prefer lighter keyswitches, but I much prefer 62g springs to the stock clear ones. They make the switch feel much more tactile.
The 62g Korean springs ARE lighter than the stock clear ones.

Exactly. That's why I'm saying I might be slightly biased in preferring them, because I generally enjoy lighter switches more.
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Re: Why Ergo Clears?
« Reply #120 on: Thu, 06 March 2014, 19:10:44 »
I had a user on GH unsolder the switches for me on my new Keycool Cherry MX Clear based board and put on 65g Korean springs.  Wow...this is easily the best Cherry based keyboard I've used.  67g might be slightly better, but this is fine.  I still prefer Topre, but I now finally have a Cherry board that is sufficient to use as a backup.

Very nice feeling for those who want a bump before it breaks (a la Topre, a la buckling spring).  Although compared to Topre, it still feels somewhat cheap, but not as much as Reds/Browns (which feel like a Playskool toy)
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Re: Why Ergo Clears?
« Reply #121 on: Fri, 07 March 2014, 05:26:15 »
Quote from: robertsig on Thu, 06 March 2014, 19:10:44
I had a user on GH unsolder the switches for me on my new Keycool Cherry MX Clear based board and put on 65g Korean springs.  Wow...this is easily the best Cherry based keyboard I've used.  67g might be slightly better, but this is fine.  I still prefer Topre, but I now finally have a Cherry board that is sufficient to use as a backup.

Very nice feeling for those who want a bump before it breaks (a la Topre, a la buckling spring).  Although compared to Topre, it still feels somewhat cheap, but not as much as Reds/Browns (which feel like a Playskool toy)


Feel happy to see the keycool mx clear board can be useful to you.
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