My brother and his g/f have been doing the vegan thing for a few months. Its tough keeping your macros up so you have energy and such. Plus you definitely need to source your veggies from local organic to try and maximize nutritional value. If you ever need some motivation check out "The Omnivores Dilemma" or the follow-up research "In the Defense of Food" by Michael Pollan. Good stuff that will make you feel inspired to eat the best food you can.
Why am tp r become rabbit?
My brother and his g/f have been doing the vegan thing for a few months. Its tough keeping your macros up so you have energy and such. Plus you definitely need to source your veggies from local organic to try and maximize nutritional value. If you ever need some motivation check out "The Omnivores Dilemma" or the follow-up research "In the Defense of Food" by Michael Pollan. Good stuff that will make you feel inspired to eat the best food you can.
Why am tp r become rabbit?
Am at the age where everyone around me is catching the heart disease and cancer..
Cowardice Perhaps ??
My brother and his g/f have been doing the vegan thing for a few months. Its tough keeping your macros up so you have energy and such. Plus you definitely need to source your veggies from local organic to try and maximize nutritional value. If you ever need some motivation check out "The Omnivores Dilemma" or the follow-up research "In the Defense of Food" by Michael Pollan. Good stuff that will make you feel inspired to eat the best food you can.
The BEST information out there rests on correlation studies, the actual mechanisms are too complicated for modern science to fully depict..
But the solution to near term ailments seeeeeeeeems to be a vegetable laden course..
As for organic, haz walked into whole foods a few years back.. Tp4 simply can't fordz the premium label foods..
My brother and his g/f have been doing the vegan thing for a few months. Its tough keeping your macros up so you have energy and such. Plus you definitely need to source your veggies from local organic to try and maximize nutritional value. If you ever need some motivation check out "The Omnivores Dilemma" or the follow-up research "In the Defense of Food" by Michael Pollan. Good stuff that will make you feel inspired to eat the best food you can.
The BEST information out there rests on correlation studies, the actual mechanisms are too complicated for modern science to fully depict..
But the solution to near term ailments seeeeeeeeems to be a vegetable laden course..
As for organic, haz walked into whole foods a few years back.. Tp4 simply can't fordz the premium label foods..
Don't worry about not being able to afford organic. The only thing that organic means is they can only use pesticides from a specific list that are considered natural. And remember natural does not mean better. Also, these pesticides are not as effective, for targeted as what isn't on that list. Organic pesticides are sprayed at up to and sometimes more than 30 pounds per acre. Other non organic friendly pesticides are sprayed at less than 5 pounds per acre.
Also, there is zero difference in nutritional value between organic and non-organic.
There is quite a difference in product between your local small organic farm and the corporate mega farms that supply places like whole foods. I do a lot of reading on the subject of food science but i'm hardly an expert, its just a hobby of mine. I also like to 'attempt' to grow some of my own food naturally.
As for nutritional information you might enjoy this short report that sheds some light on the changes that we're seeing in modern produce from different farming tactics https://organic-center.org/reportfiles/YieldsReport.pdf
Bacon FTW
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The entire human population is addicted to it..No. The entire human population is attracted to it, only a portion of them are actually addicted to it.
But, at least with the vegan side, you still avoid the most common cancers.. breast/colon/prostateNo, you don't avoid it, you only reduce the risk. But at least, the reduction is well known.
I've tried some forms of veganism and always failed.-milk
Frutarian diet made me always light headed, urinate all day (they think this is a good thing but I found it quite annoying), and eventually got cavities - for the first time in my life!
Starchivore/McDougall diet always made me constipated and was bored with potatoes as quickly as I got bored with meat on a low/zero carb diet.
One thing is for certain: I am absolutely miserable on a ultra low fat diet as well as having too much sugar. On the other hand if my carbs are too low I also get extremely depressed.
So maybe a new diet composed as a Raw Vegan Dessert diet. Basically Puddings/Pie's/Cheesecakes all Raw Vegan and made with alternative sweeteners.
Yes tp4 is right - I am addicted to oil and sugar.
-milk
-beer
-meat
All you need.
Why am tp r become rabbit?
Am at the age where everyone around me is catching the heart disease and cancer..
Cowardice Perhaps ??
The entire human population is addicted to it..No. The entire human population is attracted to it, only a portion of them are actually addicted to it.But, at least with the vegan side, you still avoid the most common cancers.. breast/colon/prostateNo, you don't avoid it, you only reduce the risk. But at least, the reduction is well known.
You should also avoid smoked or burned foods and avoid inhaling fumes from smoking cooking oil.
Why am tp r become rabbit?
Am at the age where everyone around me is catching the heart disease and cancer..
Cowardice Perhaps ??
Why be hungry for 20 years when you can eat like a king for 10?
Let me break this down in advanced math:
lte (lifetime enjoyment) / ym (yummy meats) * bs (barley soda) = HL (happy life) + mfov (making fun of vegans)
"hey guys look at me, I'm so healthy and miserable, I have no energy, I smell like patchouli oil and and I fart kale particles."
The Modern most common cancers are directly correlated with consumption of animal proteins, and they happen in our Western lifestyles, but NOT in other cultures which eat 0x animals...
The latest info suggest we should not be dying of the common western cancers which are today retiring americans approximately 10-20 years ahead of end of useful healthful lifespan.
The Modern most common cancers are directly correlated with consumption of animal proteins, and they happen in our Western lifestyles, but NOT in other cultures which eat 0x animals...
The latest info suggest we should not be dying of the common western cancers which are today retiring americans approximately 10-20 years ahead of end of useful healthful lifespan.
I think it's unfair to completely blame animal products. We are not all afforded the luxury of discussing this on our asses because a good portion of our ancestors were celery munchers.
There is also another politically incorrect possibility: Perhaps not all of us are genetically set up to live to a certain statistically generated age.
My problem is that I absolutely hate brown rice and I know it's way better for you than white rice...oh well.
My problem is that I absolutely hate brown rice and I know it's way better for you than white rice...oh well.
If we are looking for real world results then white rice wins. Do you know of any large Asian populations that primarily consume brown rice? I can't think of any.
The rice companies are probably laughing their asses off because they can push brown rice and make more profit due to less processing.
That aside there are several articles out there that not only explain how nutritionally poor rice is but how it's difficult for the body to absorb the nutrients from brown rice.
By nutrition I mean yes, rice will keep you alive but micro-nutrient wise a salad will crush it.
Well, the 7th day adventist community in california have significantly reduced rates of western cancers, and they're genetically identical to the rest of the population.
I think potatoes are the way to go, Yield significantly trump nearly every other crop and it has lots of nutrients..
But grains will remain staple, because you can store it for much longer...
Well, the 7th day adventist community in california have significantly reduced rates of western cancers, and they're genetically identical to the rest of the population.
So I took a look at their diet. I am pretty sure if you substituted the salmon with say Chicken or Beef and made no other alterations to the diet that you would probably be ok. It's all the other crap people throw in a diet that is the problem.
My problem with potatoes is they are one of the crops with the most pesticides; and all the Organic Potatoes in my area are terrible! Either the price scares people and they sit on the shelf forever or they just don't taste very good.
There's been quite a number of people who have done "Potato Fasts" or mono meals and have lost a lot of weight - and I've tried this but you've got to be dedicated.
I'm probably going to get the facts wrong so feel free to jump on me - but the way I understand it is when you eat potatoes with absolutely no fat it will cause your blood sugar to rise and with no fat present in the meal it will go to your fat stores instead to control the spike. This can help with weight loss.
Which reminds me go search for "Rice Diet" which attempts something similar except with white rice and fruit juice.
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The problem is us. We are flawed.Well I don't know about you but I can eat steak every day, actually (http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab207/Chyrosran/8I%20smileys/I8_zpsmkdo4cj9.gif) .
The problem is us. We are flawed.Well I don't know about you but I can eat steak every day, actuallyShow Image(http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab207/Chyrosran/8I%20smileys/I8_zpsmkdo4cj9.gif).
Considering you're SUPER healthy now it's probably ok to sneak in a lil bacon every now n then no? Or is your body already rejecting meat?
I drink RAW Milk.
Very good for you if you get Organic from local farmers.
I drink RAW Milk.
Very good for you if you get Organic from local farmers.
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I don't want to live forever..
I just don't want to live in a hospital
OLDSCHOOL vegan. Holy moly how can you manage that diet?!
/brain damageOLDSCHOOL vegan. Holy moly how can you manage that diet?!/Conviction..
What supplements do you guys take?
What supplements do you guys take?
if you're eating meat, you don't need any supplements
but according to the internet, vegans need extra b12 and some fats like in walnuts.
What supplements do you guys take?
if you're eating meat, you don't need any supplements
but according to the internet, vegans need extra b12 and some fats like in walnuts.
you should take b12 supplement for sure, i used to do cyanocobalamin tablets. if you're ok with it you can give yourself shots once a month too, which is convenient but also we have some sort of almost inherent fear of stabbing ourselves with needles. make sure you mix up your main source for carbs just to get a variety of nutrients and not be bored. oatmeal for breakfast is great with brown sugar and cinnamon, or toast up a bagel and spread with peanut butter and banana slices on top. pasta, rice, and beans are also very common and so cheap. make sure you aren't getting tired of your food or else you'll go back to eating junk food within a few weeks.
What supplements do you guys take?
if you're eating meat, you don't need any supplements
but according to the internet, vegans need extra b12 and some fats like in walnuts.
you should take b12 supplement for sure, i used to do cyanocobalamin tablets. if you're ok with it you can give yourself shots once a month too, which is convenient but also we have some sort of almost inherent fear of stabbing ourselves with needles. make sure you mix up your main source for carbs just to get a variety of nutrients and not be bored. oatmeal for breakfast is great with brown sugar and cinnamon, or toast up a bagel and spread with peanut butter and banana slices on top. pasta, rice, and beans are also very common and so cheap. make sure you aren't getting tired of your food or else you'll go back to eating junk food within a few weeks.
Tp4 considers a dull foods experience as an opportunity to hone concentration and WILL POWAH.. !!
But for the non-crazies out there, Yes, indeed it is very important to experiment with the infinite variety of the vegan palette.
haha if you want to work on your mental toughness just do some big hills on your bicycle. you should beware of eating the same foods every day just because you probably won't be covering the complete spectrum of vitamins and minerals with only a couple of foods. just something to keep in mind i guess.
I'm going to attempt vegan again next week, only this time I'll try to keep the carbs as low as possible.
That means no grains, no potatoes, only black soybeans/tofu for legumes, hemp hearts/pumpkin seeds/nuts/nut butters, and a lot of leafy greens/Cruciferous vegetables.
No fruit except some berries and even then only very early in the day so they can be burned off before night.
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Eat animals = DELICIOUS, 100% agree
Eat animals also = You Die, HORRIBLY
_______ Medical cost will be equivalent to your entire Life savings on the average salary.
_______ You have no money left to pass onto your loved ones
_______ You probably won't even have any left for your own funeral
_______ You put your family in emotional agony for the last 5 to 10 years of YOUR debilitating sickness..
_______ and Yea, that last 5 to 10 years of your life, YOU SUFFER, persist in physically and mental agony.
For some people who have no close family, a very monotonous job, and have no savings anyway.. It's probably still a logical decision to take the risk.
But asssuming this person wants to self improve, whole plant food is still a good option, but not a necessity..
So vegans are somehow exempt from horrible deaths? :p
what is it about vegan that i'm missing, isn't it only/primarily meat that you want to avoid because there's a lot of fat in it?
i was under the impression that it's mostly the overkill of salt, sugar and fat that's attacking people their health.
seems overkill to go vegan, wouldn't just avoiding only meat be OK? besides, fish for example is pretty healthy, isn't it?
i don't think i would become any healthier if i would switch to a vegan diet.
i'm eating stuff like beef, fish, eggs, milk products.. so am i killing myself with these things? it certainly doesn't feel like it..
just curious. the internet is mostly busy trying to portray any non-vegan diet as a devil's one.
The Modern most common cancers are directly correlated with consumption of animal proteins, and they happen in our Western lifestyles, but NOT in other cultures which eat 0x animals...
The latest info suggest we should not be dying of the common western cancers which are today retiring americans approximately 10-20 years ahead of end of useful healthful lifespan.
The Modern most common cancers are directly correlated with consumption of animal proteins, and they happen in our Western lifestyles, but NOT in other cultures which eat 0x animals...
The latest info suggest we should not be dying of the common western cancers which are today retiring americans approximately 10-20 years ahead of end of useful healthful lifespan.
How old are you? Chances are you've already damaged your DNA significantly with years of animal protein to make a major difference now. Secondly messing with your fat intakes can seriously damage your health, just as much as having a too high saturated fat diet. I get what you are saying, but if this change is out of fear of dying early, rather than a change in point of view and thus seem half arsed attempt at increasing life span. Your points of ecological vegetables is also not entirely on point. It is true that in our parents time, they contained significantly more micronutrients up to 30-50 times as much, which has since been diminished by industrialization, however the current ones still provide a significant increase over non-ecological ones and can be rationalized buying if you can afford them.
My advice would also be to test how well your body converts plant oils to useable omega 3s etc., as most peoples bodies are at a inefficient in this conversion and would literally be starved of it, no matter the plant quantity intake. People generally eat the fish, which has already done this process en masse.
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lol, that's literally what would need to happen to flip the worldwide vegan switch atm
My dad Whatsapp'd me yesterday to tell me he's vegan now. Good luck with that. He lives in a small town in the south of France. However, he's a lifetime meat and cheese fanatic, and the decision is all for his arteries, so maybe this stuff is catching on.
My dad Whatsapp'd me yesterday to tell me he's vegan now. Good luck with that. He lives in a small town in the south of France. However, he's a lifetime meat and cheese fanatic, and the decision is all for his arteries, so maybe this stuff is catching on.
That's absolutely the best thing he could be doing for his heart condition..
Make sure to exchange some dialogue on Less than 10% of total calories from fat.
approximately 22g of oil per day TOTAL..
For example, if you ate 20% calories from fat, you're gonna clog your arteries all the same.
Most heart disease ridden americans are consuming around the 25-40% range.. something like 50 to 100 grams of fat daily.
at this rate, it gives them a 50% odds of developing heart disease and 50% chance of developing cancer.
This is the hardest part of being not only a vegan but a HEALTHY vegan.
Southern france, do you guys eat super greasy over there like america ?
I don't live in France but I've been to where he lives and it's all meat, cheese and wine, like anywhere in France, but without the alternative options you might be able to find in big cities. Not particularly greasy I guess, but very fatty.
I don't live in France but I've been to where he lives and it's all meat, cheese and wine, like anywhere in France, but without the alternative options you might be able to find in big cities. Not particularly greasy I guess, but very fatty.
Does he and your mother have a good relationship ?
She's gonna need to create entirely new menus for him..
But you know, if she h8s him, she could be slowly poisoning him with arsenic like in that french movie i saw once.. hahahahahaha
Pasta, Rice, Potato, Bright colored vegetables.
Make sure to keep it at 4 to 7 g of cooking oil per meal Maximum..
Cheese, meats, fish, chocolate, milk, bacon, eggs, have to be strictly removed.
IDK if it's been translated into french, but
Prevent and Reserve Heart disease by esselstyn..
Must read for anyone on the edge..
I don't live in France but I've been to where he lives and it's all meat, cheese and wine, like anywhere in France, but without the alternative options you might be able to find in big cities. Not particularly greasy I guess, but very fatty.
Does he and your mother have a good relationship ?
She's gonna need to create entirely new menus for him..
But you know, if she h8s him, she could be slowly poisoning him with arsenic like in that french movie i saw once.. hahahahahaha
Pasta, Rice, Potato, Bright colored vegetables.
Make sure to keep it at 4 to 7 g of cooking oil per meal Maximum..
Cheese, meats, fish, chocolate, milk, bacon, eggs, have to be strictly removed.
IDK if it's been translated into french, but
Prevent and Reserve Heart disease by esselstyn..
Must read for anyone on the edge..
They're divorced and he's remarried. Don't know if his partner has gone vegan but they share cooking duties pretty evenly I think. I'm just messaging with him now and it turns out it was ultimately an ethical decision, which is surprising. Although he's well aware of, and appreciates, the health benefits for his dodgy heart.
I can only imagine how difficult it must be to avoid saturated and trans fat
They're actually putting vegans on trial now? Sheesh. The Drumpf era of steak-eating planet destroyers (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/jun/02/un-report-meat-free-diet) must be in full effect now.
I dunno about you, but sometimes I get the creeps, realizing I'm walking among creatures who are, for the most part, carnivores. It also explains why we're so aggressive toward each other, and toward our planet: Carnivores need to be in charge, to be the bosses of everything.