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Title: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Tue, 21 August 2018, 20:11:45
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TKC Blog Post (https://thekey.company/blogs/blog-updates/tkc-candybar-the-click-o-stick)

INTEREST CHECK FORM (https://goo.gl/forms/8lTJKigeyfGAEzZC3)


Introducing the TKC CandyBar. This Click-O-Stick is brought to you by TKC to satisfy the need for a compact board with full size features and an incredibly attractive price-point!

Honch0 here (Jason). Ill level with you. I like my arrow keys. I also like my numpad. This has kept me away from using my compact boards. I still collect them, but they are show-pieces more than battle station wares. I recently sold my Minivan to a really nice guy in Australia. I thought to myself, "why cant there be a 40 with a numpad? And arrows.." I drove straight home and drew up the keymap. I got u/blindassassin111 on the horn and said "LETS DO THIS!". 3 weeks later, we have prototypes in hand and were testing. u/terrymathews is working on the firmware and we will have some solid numbers in the coming weeks. We plan to have a group buy going in October.

So heres the details. There are 2 versions and 2 kits. You can get either PCB with in either kit.

The PCBs

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*Both PCBs use QMK firmware, Mini-USB and will have all SMD components factory installed.

THE KITS:

CANDYBAR STANDARD


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CANDYBAR PREMIUM


Renders by Oblotzky

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DSA KITS


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FAQ:


Will I be able to buy just a PCB?
Yes

Can I get a kit with no switches?
Yes

Is there backlighting?
We are considering a backlit strip under the PCB. There will be no in switch lighting on this PCB. Perhaps a future board will offer in-switch RGB but there are no official plans as of yet.

Can you make one with the numpad on the left side?
Were working on it but because the PCB is so tight, we have to start from scratch. Stay tuned.

Can you guys stop decimating my bank account?
Were trying. This one is going to be nice and affordable, so your wallet shouldn't turn into meme fodder.

Sign up for updates on this project here. (https://thekey.company/pages/sign-up)

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Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Corgiattackkk on Tue, 21 August 2018, 20:19:51
Ok. Gimme. This fixes my issues with vortex vibe.

Edit: Oh shoot, just read the possible left numpad config, definitely in for one when you can make that possible.

Also, is there anyway you can have standard backspace sizing with hotswap?
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: BlindAssassin111 on Tue, 21 August 2018, 20:46:49
Ok. Gimme. This fixes my issues with vortex vibe.

Edit: Oh shoot, just read the possible left numpad config, definitely in for one when you can make that possible.

Also, is there anyway you can have standard backspace sizing with hotswap?

It is a hard maybe on standard backspace for hotswap, I am going to look into it when I start doing the revisions but atm not sure.

Added standard backspace and moved the USB port to accommodate this change and by doing so makes doing a left side numpad much easier.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Corgiattackkk on Tue, 21 August 2018, 23:58:35
Ok. Gimme. This fixes my issues with vortex vibe.

Edit: Oh shoot, just read the possible left numpad config, definitely in for one when you can make that possible.

Also, is there anyway you can have standard backspace sizing with hotswap?

It is a hard maybe on standard backspace for hotswap, I am going to look into it when I start doing the revisions but atm not sure.

Added standard backspace and moved the USB port to accommodate this change and by doing so makes doing a left side numpad much easier.

That was amazingly fast! Thank you so much for not only replying but taking my question seriously. I am definitely 100% in.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: BlindAssassin111 on Wed, 22 August 2018, 00:08:37
That was amazingly fast! Thank you so much for not only replying but taking my question seriously. I am definitely 100% in.  :thumb:

I make the most headway with designs late at night lol. And I don't stop working at anytime of day, I work when I feel like it or if something needs to be done. I want this to meet as many peoples needs as possible while maintaining the purpose of the board.

Tomorrow I will work on left numpad and hopefully finish, if not nearly finish that update.

I should be able to make the hotswap board even better before the GB launch, so keep watch!
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 22 August 2018, 00:15:16
I'm in for the standard PCB... maybe the premium, depending on the price.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: SomePunkassKid on Wed, 22 August 2018, 00:36:13
I'm excited to see the left handed numpad version. I'm in for sure.

Also, is there any consideration for black pcb/pcb case pieces?

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Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: BlindAssassin111 on Wed, 22 August 2018, 00:43:49
I'm excited to see the left handed numpad version. I'm in for sure.

Also, is there any consideration for black pcb/pcb case pieces?

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That is the plan from what I can remember, green was just for the proto because it was much cheaper.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Giorgio on Wed, 22 August 2018, 00:59:57
Very difficult to accept.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: bobdenard on Wed, 22 August 2018, 05:00:14
This looks amazing! Great layout. Do you think you could switch from mini usb to usb c?


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Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Macflag on Wed, 22 August 2018, 05:17:38
In for premium! *depending on price


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Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: otanishock on Wed, 22 August 2018, 06:16:27
I would personally love to see a left side numpad. Otherwise great design!
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Wed, 22 August 2018, 06:39:29
This looks amazing! Great layout. Do you think you could switch from mini usb to usb c?


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Sorry, not on this one. Changing to C adds cost / complexity and adds no real benefit to this design. If you’re using a computer that only has USB-C ports (MacBook) you can consider a cable from ZapCables. They make really nice wares and offer mini to C.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Wed, 22 August 2018, 15:25:49
I would personally love to see a left side numpad. Otherwise great design!

Its official. Left side numpad is happening. :-)
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: catamscott on Wed, 22 August 2018, 16:24:11
so is it safe to call this a 4800 layout? :)) depending on the price i'll grab one, looks like a fun little board!
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Wed, 22 August 2018, 17:41:16
so is it safe to call this a 4800 layout? :)) depending on the price i'll grab one, looks like a fun little board!

Only if it’s pronounced “four-eight-double-oh”
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Corgiattackkk on Wed, 22 August 2018, 17:43:17
I would personally love to see a left side numpad. Otherwise great design!

Its official. Left side numpad is happening. :-)

10% of the population is celebrating now  :))
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Starius on Wed, 22 August 2018, 21:51:24
I would personally love to see a left side numpad. Otherwise great design!

Its official. Left side numpad is happening. :-)

10% of the population is celebrating now  :))

I'm a right handed person, but I've wanted a keyboard with the numpad on the left side too.
I don't like having to take my right hand off the mouse when I use it, in many circumstances.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Corgiattackkk on Thu, 23 August 2018, 09:49:59
I would personally love to see a left side numpad. Otherwise great design!

Its official. Left side numpad is happening. :-)

10% of the population is celebrating now  :))

I'm a right handed person, but I've wanted a keyboard with the numpad on the left side too.
I don't like having to take my right hand off the mouse when I use it, in many circumstances.

It was definitely a joke and I agree about how it makes more sense to use the numpad on left if you are using the mouse in your right hand! I'm part of the 10% population, so I was just excited about the support of the left numpad since it was originally a "maybe". There's also a lot of excitement in their IC check on r/mechmarket
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/995ter/ic_tkc_candybar_a_super_affordable_compact_board/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/995ter/ic_tkc_candybar_a_super_affordable_compact_board/)
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: odd on Thu, 23 August 2018, 15:45:09
Another keeb from the KeyCompany? Oh hell yes ill take a preminum version plz.

fake edit: and a standard for backup
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Fri, 24 August 2018, 11:12:27
Another keeb from the KeyCompany? Oh hell yes ill take a preminum version plz.

fake edit: and a standard for backup

Hell yes! Stay tuned, were working hard and fast on this one.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Keebmeupscotty on Mon, 27 August 2018, 09:50:23
Left numpad and arrows has gotten me very interested. Been looking for something like this since I missed out on southpaw 65 due to funds. Will definitely be in for regular and possibly premium. Good work!
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Combonaut on Wed, 29 August 2018, 20:36:40
This looks fantastic!
I'll struggle to cover that 1.25x Tab key with  my current sets, but it makes perfect sense for this layout.
Any ideas on what colours will be offered for the alu case?
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: BlindAssassin111 on Wed, 29 August 2018, 21:19:23
This looks fantastic!
I'll struggle to cover that 1.25x Tab key with  my current sets, but it makes perfect sense for this layout.
Any ideas on what colours will be offered for the alu case?

For now the only colors we have talked about are the Mint Chocolate shown, there will most likely be other options but that hasn't been ironed out yet.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: EightDiagram on Sun, 02 September 2018, 14:39:00
I would personally love to see a left side numpad. Otherwise great design!

Its official. Left side numpad is happening. :-)

Can we see the layout for candybar with left-side numpad?

Excited for this! :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: BlindAssassin111 on Sun, 02 September 2018, 14:47:52
Can we see the layout for candybar with left-side numpad?

Excited for this! :thumb:

We will make another announcement soon that will have that in there, so keep a look out for that.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: brooklynlou on Mon, 10 September 2018, 15:14:51
Would love a had plastic case ala the Kumo. Make it look like a candy wrapper ...

https://thevankeyboards.com/products/slideback
Title: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: dimo on Mon, 10 September 2018, 16:31:23
I'm in for premium (:
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: dimo on Thu, 20 September 2018, 02:53:44
Updates?
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Corgiattackkk on Thu, 20 September 2018, 10:20:01
Updates?

From their Reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/9firta/vendor_thekeydotcompany_updates_gmk_terminal_tkc/?ref=share&ref_source=link (https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/9firta/vendor_thekeydotcompany_updates_gmk_terminal_tkc/?ref=share&ref_source=link)
TKC CandyBar
Expect a BIG update early next week
Lefthand version added
Custom Dyesub DSA kit added
Group buy will start in the next few weeks!

This was from a week ago, so it should have an update soon.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: BlindAssassin111 on Thu, 20 September 2018, 10:52:58
Updates?
This was from a week ago, so it should have an update soon.

Don't worry, We have been working on everything non-stop for a while and are trying to get everything sorted, nearly there.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: speaktobrett on Sat, 22 September 2018, 22:38:37
Cannot wait for this groupbuy!!! :)
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: RivieraS on Sat, 22 September 2018, 23:15:09
I can wait,because I have no money
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: BlindAssassin111 on Sun, 23 September 2018, 00:24:40
I can wait,because I have no money

Cannot wait for this groupbuy!!! :)

Well the wait won't be long, so get the money prepared sooner rather than later. :P
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: XG-L on Sun, 23 September 2018, 00:47:17
I would like to have one more column between (/ ; .) and (* Enter Shift), so that the key [" '] and [? /] can be added. I use these two key quite often. It's a deal-break option for me.  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Fri, 28 September 2018, 12:37:32
Entire post rewritten and brought up to date. Please check it out!
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Starius on Fri, 28 September 2018, 12:50:14
This is great. I'm more excited for this than ever now!

I do have one n00b question though:
You can have a split spacebar options AND have hot swap sockets? Why did I think this wasn't possible? Do all the stabilizer placements work out?  Don't get me wrong, I think this is great. I just thought this has caused trouble for other designs previously.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Fri, 28 September 2018, 13:02:42
This is great. I'm more excited for this than ever now!

I do have one n00b question though:
You can have a split spacebar options AND have hot swap sockets? Why did I think this wasn't possible? Do all the stabilizer placements work out?  Don't get me wrong, I think this is great. I just thought this has caused trouble for other designs previously.

blindassassin111 figured it out!
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Parva Ovis on Fri, 28 September 2018, 13:42:00
Slightly disappointed that the numpad enter isn't 2u anymore, but the hotswap split spacebar more than makes up for it! I'll buy a PCB kit and a premium kit!
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: BlindAssassin111 on Fri, 28 September 2018, 13:56:57
Slightly disappointed that the numpad enter isn't 2u anymore, but the hotswap split spacebar more than makes up for it! I'll buy a PCB kit and a premium kit!

It was done to make the left and right numpad versions use the same layout, just moved, and sadly it is impossible to have both on the hotswap PCB because the stab holes are in the same location as the solder pad for the socket, so it wouldn't be possible to get a connection.
Title: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: byoliven on Fri, 28 September 2018, 14:56:00
Any chance to swap the ">" and "Rshift" keys to make it as a straight arrow cluster position?
Its just 0.25u to make it as a dream layout for me. So close
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: TheKeyCompany on Fri, 28 September 2018, 15:19:00
Any chance to swap the ">" and "Rshift" keys to make it as a straight arrow cluster position?
Its just 0.25u to make it as a dream layout for me. So close

That was the original design. We opted to swap those keys to maintain a standard position for the “/ ?” Key.

Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Starius on Fri, 28 September 2018, 18:24:40
This is great. I'm more excited for this than ever now!

I do have one n00b question though:
You can have a split spacebar options AND have hot swap sockets? Why did I think this wasn't possible? Do all the stabilizer placements work out?  Don't get me wrong, I think this is great. I just thought this has caused trouble for other designs previously.

blindassassin111 figured it out!

(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/62301917/i-say-chaps-bloody-well-done.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Corgiattackkk on Fri, 28 September 2018, 18:38:04
Just to make sure, for the DSA Graydient, it's going to match the font from the DSA KITS renders and not the full keyboard renders, correct? Looks great and I'm excited for the changes! Count me in for a left-handed premium <3
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: William_S_Jones on Sat, 10 November 2018, 23:02:58
Good day, I’ve been interested in the Candy Bar premium since your RMK post. I hope I can get both options (right & left) & at least the candy keyset. BTW, w/ the hot swap kailh (I love speed & pros) PCB, will it require PCB or plate mount switches (sorry, but I don’t know much about hot swap PCBs)? Upon, reviewing your website, I see this GB has been moved from October to December to now 2019, I hope everything is going well this candy set (MKBs & keysets). BTW, sorry for being off topic, but does the key company have plans to sell more tangerine switches in the future b/c I really some. Well, look forward to hearing from you and hope that all continues to go well for you.


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Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: BlindAssassin111 on Sat, 10 November 2018, 23:53:30
Good day, I’ve been interested in the Candy Bar premium since your RMK post. I hope I can get both options (right & left) & at least the candy keyset. BTW, w/ the hot swap kailh (I love speed & pros) PCB, will it require PCB or plate mount switches (sorry, but I don’t know much about hot swap PCBs)? Upon, reviewing your website, I see this GB has been moved from October to December to now 2019, I hope everything is going well this candy set (MKBs & keysets). BTW, sorry for being off topic, but does the key company have plans to sell more tangerine switches in the future b/c I really some. Well, look forward to hearing from you and hope that all continues to go well for you.


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You can use either plate or pcb mount, both will work fine, just know that PCB mount will fit tighter and be a bit harder to hotswap, but that is the only real difference.

Everything is going fine, the issue was the first proto PCB had an issue due to a documentation error, and that snowballed and right now we are doing a 2nd proto to see if that whole issue is now resolved 100% like it should be. Wasn't the plan but can't control others documentation accuracy...

As for the tangerines, I will leave that to Jason to answer as he would be the only one that knows that.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: William_S_Jones on Sun, 11 November 2018, 03:00:02
Good day, I’ve been interested in the Candy Bar premium since your RMK post. I hope I can get both options (right & left) & at least the candy keyset. BTW, w/ the hot swap kailh (I love speed & pros) PCB, will it require PCB or plate mount switches (sorry, but I don’t know much about hot swap PCBs)? Upon, reviewing your website, I see this GB has been moved from October to December to now 2019, I hope everything is going well this candy set (MKBs & keysets). BTW, sorry for being off topic, but does the key company have plans to sell more tangerine switches in the future b/c I really some. Well, look forward to hearing from you and hope that all continues to go well for you.


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You can use either plate or pcb mount, both will work fine, just know that PCB mount will fit tighter and be a bit harder to hotswap, but that is the only real difference.

Everything is going fine, the issue was the first proto PCB had an issue due to a documentation error, and that snowballed and right now we are doing a 2nd proto to see if that whole issue is now resolved 100% like it should be. Wasn't the plan but can't control others documentation accuracy...

As for the tangerines, I will leave that to Jason to answer as he would be the only one that knows that.
Thanks for your quick response, I appreciate it. Well, time to stock up on some plate mount kailh speeds & pros! As far as the tangerines, My fingers are& hope Jason has good tangerine MX news for me.


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Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Koatl on Mon, 12 November 2018, 13:09:20
Hope I didn't miss this and it ends up happening.

Would love to see a simpler, smaller premium case. And pics with GMK DMG (maybe XDA 8 Bit if possible).
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: vikipedeer on Wed, 14 November 2018, 00:59:45
This would be the perfect travel piece!
Looking forward to it
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: _ODIN_ on Fri, 07 December 2018, 07:59:49
Is tray mounting the only possible option to implement the plate? I would love to get this as a top mounted board. 😏
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: BlindAssassin111 on Fri, 07 December 2018, 12:44:39
Is tray mounting the only possible option to implement the plate? I would love to get this as a top mounted board. 😏

It is technically a "top-mount" board as the plate is what is held in place. We wanted a 1 piece case, so the mounts go through the PCB and screw into the plate, whereas "traditional" tray-mount screws the PCB down and lets the plate float.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: _ODIN_ on Fri, 07 December 2018, 13:14:13
Is tray mounting the only possible option to implement the plate? I would love to get this as a top mounted board. 😏

It is technically a "top-mount" board as the plate is what is held in place. We wanted a 1 piece case, so the mounts go through the PCB and screw into the plate, whereas "traditional" tray-mount screws the PCB down and lets the plate float.
thank you for the clarification
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: TuCZnak on Wed, 27 March 2019, 12:25:48
New blog looking good :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: zeroisnothing on Wed, 27 March 2019, 12:44:39
New blog looking good :thumb:

Ooooo yes!
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Kokaloo on Wed, 27 March 2019, 14:31:05
Are there any pictures of the bottom of the aluminum case? Looks super fun, and very interested. Thank you!
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: BlindAssassin111 on Wed, 27 March 2019, 14:48:43
Are there any pictures of the bottom of the aluminum case? Looks super fun, and very interested. Thank you!

It is flat and has recesses for bumpons, nothing too crazy.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: William_S_Jones on Wed, 27 March 2019, 14:58:20
Looking forward to it & that mint green cases is


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Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Ashardalon on Tue, 02 April 2019, 11:53:38
Longboi, me very likey. I will definitely be taking one! Do you have an idea of how much space is between the PCB and the bottom of the case? The Candybar seems hefty for a smaller board, and I'm hoping that it's a snug fit inside to allow for a more deeper acoustic.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: BlindAssassin111 on Tue, 02 April 2019, 12:38:07
Longboi, me very likey. I will definitely be taking one! Do you have an idea of how much space is between the PCB and the bottom of the case? The Candybar seems hefty for a smaller board, and I'm hoping that it's a snug fit inside to allow for a more deeper acoustic.

There is 4.9mm from the PCB to bottom and about 3.1mm below the hotswap socket.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Ashardalon on Tue, 02 April 2019, 16:30:59
Longboi, me very likey. I will definitely be taking one! Do you have an idea of how much space is between the PCB and the bottom of the case? The Candybar seems hefty for a smaller board, and I'm hoping that it's a snug fit inside to allow for a more deeper acoustic.

There is 4.9mm from the PCB to bottom and about 3.1mm below the hotswap socket.

Okay that's not too bad at all. Might put a foam insert in there or something and see what happens, but seems pretty snug.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: BlindAssassin111 on Tue, 02 April 2019, 16:45:24
Okay that's not too bad at all. Might put a foam insert in there or something and see what happens, but seems pretty snug.

Yeah I made it so the USB port was fairly close, but didn't make the inside hug the back of the PCB. It is 1.4Kg(3.08lb) as is.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Ashardalon on Tue, 02 April 2019, 16:47:47
Okay that's not too bad at all. Might put a foam insert in there or something and see what happens, but seems pretty snug.

Yeah I made it so the USB port was fairly close, but didn't make the inside hug the back of the PCB. It is 1.4Kg(3.08lb) as is.

1.4kg? Now that's what I'm talking about! So stoked to pick one up. Thanks for the hard work these last 6 months!
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Bahm78 on Tue, 02 April 2019, 21:18:53
Very loooooooooooong design !
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: ideus on Wed, 03 April 2019, 08:31:04
Interested in the version with the numpad at the left. Also, please consider a low cost case, the sandwich version with PCB layers looks too cheap.


Edit: I just see your premium version published at other site. Hoping for a case with better pricing that fills the gap between cheap and premium version.


One final note: The split version may have the 2.25u at the left for better ergonomics.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Ashardalon on Wed, 03 April 2019, 13:03:39
Interested in the version with the numpad at the left. Also, please consider a low cost case, the sandwich version with PCB layers looks too cheap.


Edit: I just see your premium version published at other site. Hoping for a case with better pricing that fills the gap between cheap and premium version.


One final note: The split version may have the 2.25u at the left for better ergonomics.

Pretty much the only way they could make it any cheaper and put it in a case is to have a plastic one, and there's more that could go wrong with that, and would extend the production time, as the GB for this is set to launch quite soon. The price for the premium kit is a lot cheaper than other options out there, but if they're willing to share the 3D printing files perhaps you could print a case for the sandwich kit?

You could also look at Qlavier's mechchete, which is designed around the Candybar PCB; he might be able to help you find the sweet spot you're looking for with a fairly decent selection of acrylic colours. I have a commissioned board arriving from him soon, but he's fantastic with updates and will make sure you're satisfied.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: GigaFlop on Wed, 03 April 2019, 17:10:39
Not a fan of most 40s, but I like the look of this one. I'll keep an eye out for when it drops, and see how much it is.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: ideus on Wed, 03 April 2019, 19:43:20
Interested in the version with the numpad at the left. Also, please consider a low cost case, the sandwich version with PCB layers looks too cheap.


Edit: I just see your premium version published at other site. Hoping for a case with better pricing that fills the gap between cheap and premium version.


One final note: The split version may have the 2.25u at the left for better ergonomics.

Pretty much the only way they could make it any cheaper and put it in a case is to have a plastic one, and there's more that could go wrong with that, and would extend the production time, as the GB for this is set to launch quite soon. The price for the premium kit is a lot cheaper than other options out there, but if they're willing to share the 3D printing files perhaps you could print a case for the sandwich kit?

You could also look at Qlavier's mechchete, which is designed around the Candybar PCB; he might be able to help you find the sweet spot you're looking for with a fairly decent selection of acrylic colours. I have a commissioned board arriving from him soon, but he's fantastic with updates and will make sure you're satisfied.


Thank you for the tip. As far as I can tell the design if final by now, so yeah, the options are pretty much defined.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: 2ndRoad805 on Fri, 05 April 2019, 01:38:57
Vertical 2u Enter on numpad and I'm on board!
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: _GMK_ on Fri, 05 April 2019, 01:56:14
This is nice and all, but it makes no sense for me because, as a vim user, I need numbers all the time. Plus I use ISO...

What's the point of shaving away 1row of keys... then you choose to have a big frame on the case, and you immediately have a bigger keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: William_S_Jones on Fri, 05 April 2019, 10:31:28
This is nice and all, but it makes no sense for me because, as a vim user, I need numbers all the time. Plus I use ISO...

What's the point of shaving away 1row of keys... then you choose to have a big frame on the case, and you immediately have a bigger keyboard.
It's a 40% with the bonus of a number pad which is great. I hear you with could've, would've, & should've; however, the number pad is standard w/ this board. Iso...let's not be negative. We hear you, just no need for that, if you don't want it & have nothing nice to say, it's better to not comment.


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Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: _GMK_ on Fri, 05 April 2019, 10:38:22
Yeah, then make a comment about a comment about a comment
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: eskimojo on Fri, 05 April 2019, 11:18:08
This is nice and all, but it makes no sense for me because, as a vim user, I need numbers all the time. Plus I use ISO...

What's the point of shaving away 1row of keys... then you choose to have a big frame on the case, and you immediately have a bigger keyboard.
Iso...let's not be negative. We hear you, just no need for that, if you don't want it & have nothing nice to say, it's better to not comment.
yeah.. I'm normally a massive advocate for ISO support, but to me ISO support on a 40% doesn't make much sense.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: William_S_Jones on Fri, 05 April 2019, 11:40:56
This is nice and all, but it makes no sense for me because, as a vim user, I need numbers all the time. Plus I use ISO...

What's the point of shaving away 1row of keys... then you choose to have a big frame on the case, and you immediately have a bigger keyboard.
Iso...let's not be negative. We hear you, just no need for that, if you don't want it & have nothing nice to say, it's better to not comment.
yeah.. I'm normally a massive advocate for ISO support, but to me ISO support on a 40% doesn't make much sense.
Thanks for being positive.


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Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: ideus on Sat, 06 April 2019, 00:10:03
This is nice and all, but it makes no sense for me because, as a vim user, I need numbers all the time. Plus I use ISO...

What's the point of shaving away 1row of keys... then you choose to have a big frame on the case, and you immediately have a bigger keyboard.
Iso...let's not be negative. We hear you, just no need for that, if you don't want it & have nothing nice to say, it's better to not comment.
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yeah.. I'm normally a massive advocate for ISO support, but to me ISO support on a 40% doesn't make much sense.


What sense do have using a board with less keys than those required that you need fn layers? For the record, I am a fifty percent user. But, I should recognize that using a sixty is easier and a TKL is even more comfortable.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: TuCZnak on Sat, 06 April 2019, 02:16:18
This is nice and all, but it makes no sense for me because, as a vim user, I need numbers all the time. Plus I use ISO...

What's the point of shaving away 1row of keys... then you choose to have a big frame on the case, and you immediately have a bigger keyboard.
Iso...let's not be negative. We hear you, just no need for that, if you don't want it & have nothing nice to say, it's better to not comment.
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yeah.. I'm normally a massive advocate for ISO support, but to me ISO support on a 40% doesn't make much sense.


What sense do have using a board with less keys than those required that you need fn layers? For the record, I am a fifty percent user. But, I should recognize that using a sixty is easier and a TKL is even more comfortable.

There's not enough space for split left shift though, it's only 1.75U.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: eskimojo on Mon, 08 April 2019, 10:28:08
This is nice and all, but it makes no sense for me because, as a vim user, I need numbers all the time. Plus I use ISO...

What's the point of shaving away 1row of keys... then you choose to have a big frame on the case, and you immediately have a bigger keyboard.
Iso...let's not be negative. We hear you, just no need for that, if you don't want it & have nothing nice to say, it's better to not comment.
Show Image
(https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji1417.png)
Show Image
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yeah.. I'm normally a massive advocate for ISO support, but to me ISO support on a 40% doesn't make much sense.


What sense do have using a board with less keys than those required that you need fn layers? For the record, I am a fifty percent user. But, I should recognize that using a sixty is easier and a TKL is even more comfortable.

Haven't a clue  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Ashardalon on Mon, 08 April 2019, 12:27:48
This is nice and all, but it makes no sense for me because, as a vim user, I need numbers all the time. Plus I use ISO...

What's the point of shaving away 1row of keys... then you choose to have a big frame on the case, and you immediately have a bigger keyboard.

This will work better for me at work because I have limited vertical desk space, but not horizontal, so for all of the data entry and numbers I have to put in, it will work perfectly. Thankfully if this kit doesn't work for you there's plenty of others out there to choose!
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Hotsauce on Tue, 09 April 2019, 08:08:14
Will there be an option without hotswap sockets?
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: BlindAssassin111 on Tue, 09 April 2019, 12:09:14
Will there be an option without hotswap sockets?

At the moment no, I did design two without but we decided to not run them right now because it would create too many options and MOQ would have to be much higher to get the pricing we wanted.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Hotsauce on Tue, 09 April 2019, 22:53:29
Are all of the layouts listed on the blog post?
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: 2QT2BSTR8 on Tue, 09 April 2019, 23:35:21
https://thekey.company/blogs/blog-updates/ic-candybar-official-update

This is the link to the updated blog post (March 26th, 2019)
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Beatnutz on Fri, 17 May 2019, 06:48:24
I bought in! Really looking forward to this little beast. Loved it from the first sight. I have zero need for a numpad but it just looks too good to be without.

Any chance of keeping us updated in this thread (or start a GB thread) instead of on the blog?

Cheers!
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: vicissitude on Fri, 17 May 2019, 06:50:41
Nice design.
Perfect for the right-handed and left-handed.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: aparezco on Mon, 03 June 2019, 03:47:14
Could this be an option?
1. Bluetooth support for extra money.
2. Make the right shift bigger and add the "?" to the left of the right shift.
3. Move the up arrow to the right of the right shift.

The above would make this board the board of my dreams, I'd definitely pay extra to have the above features.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: walie on Mon, 03 June 2019, 06:25:38
Could this be an option?
1. Bluetooth support for extra money.
2. Make the right shift bigger and add the "?" to the left of the right shift.
3. Move the up arrow to the right of the right shift.

The above would make this board the board of my dreams, I'd definitely pay extra to have the above features.

You missed the train on this one bud, the group buy is already over.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: ninjinphu on Tue, 03 September 2019, 13:26:36
How are we looking for expected ship date? Still on track for Sep 9?
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Mr.Elli0t on Sun, 08 September 2019, 19:17:53
How are we looking for expected ship date? Still on track for Sep 9?

New expected ship date is now Sep. 25 :(
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: walie on Sun, 08 September 2019, 22:15:15
How are we looking for expected ship date? Still on track for Sep 9?

New expected ship date is now Sep. 25 :(

You mean Oct. 25
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: Mr.Elli0t on Sun, 08 September 2019, 22:24:16
How are we looking for expected ship date? Still on track for Sep 9?

New expected ship date is now Sep. 25 :(

You mean Oct. 25
Sorry, September 25 for the standard, and October 25 for the premium.

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Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: atxk on Sat, 26 October 2019, 03:40:24
Don't know if this is the right place to ask, but how do I flash a new QMK keymap to this?
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: ninjinphu on Tue, 26 November 2019, 14:35:56
ok so now we're past the Nov 15 ship date. Are things shipping or are there additional delays?
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: JPVann on Tue, 26 November 2019, 23:32:52
Also interested in update.
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: cosmo10292 on Thu, 09 January 2020, 14:41:16
Will there be another GB run? Id love to get one :(
Title: Re: [IC] TKC CandyBar - Super affordable compact board with full size features
Post by: William_S_Jones on Thu, 09 January 2020, 17:17:07
Will there be another GB run? Id love to get one :(



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