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Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« on: Wed, 04 December 2013, 02:13:42 »
So let's start with a little bit of back story from my side of things.

Back-story:

For the longest time I have been a huge lover of the 80% keyboards, the Noppoo, Keycool type keyboards, just the 84 key if I'm not mistaken, I could be wrong on the amount of keys there, but I'm sure it's 84 key. So I've loved them keyboards because of one sole reason, they are form-factor boards, they are amazing build quality, they look amazing and they are very good keyboards for the price point.

My mechanical keyboard history goes as follows, RaZer Blackwidow Ultimate > Razer Blackwidow Elite > Noppoo Choc Mini w/ Reds > Keycool 84 /w Blacks > Keycool 84 /w Browns > Filco tenkeyless /w Reds.

Why did I go for reds again over another switch type?

Well to cut a long story short, I absolutely love the Cherry MX Red key, I think it's just a sublime and perfect key. I love it for typing on, gaming on and coding on, it's just the perfect key for me and with me owning (blacks/browns) and have tried blues, I can safely say that I made the right choice.

I'll just give you a little bit of analysis into my overview on the current MX Cherry keyswitches. (Please bear in mind this is just my opinions and if your opinions are completely different? then that's fine).

Blacks - I would not advise anyone to use blacks, they are not a switch I like. Heavy to type on, feel clunky and gets tiring when typing for long periods of time. (For heavy key users, 4/4).

Blues - I enjoyed this as my first switch, but as time goes on, you tend to explore more options. (Great for typing, not that great for gaming. 3/4).

Browns - Great for both typing and gaming, but they are just not for me. This switch is if you want a sweet spot between red/blue, a common middleground for most people I know and also great for RTS games. (2/4)

Reds - My favourite switch because of it's light feel and it's just a personal preference. Great for gaming/typing, (if you're a heavy typist? stick with blues/browns though. 1/4)

Now with that out of the way? let's get into the review shall we?

Filco Tenkeyless - Black /w Red Cherry MX Switches:

1. Images







And finally a picture of my set-up encase you are interested?



2. Review

(By the way, I am going to be comparing and contrasting this review to the Keycool 84, my previous keyboard).

Build Quality.

So let's start with the build quality? The build quality on the Filco is absolutely fantastic, it feels extremely sturdy, it's got a nice weight to it. Straight away I could tell the difference between this Filco and my old Keycool 84, there is just a big difference, now if I compare this Filco to my old Noppoo? Oh man, there is literally no comparison, the Noppoo feels like a piece of cheap plastic in comparison but I guess that ties into the price points.

I live in England and I paid £130 in total for my Filco, but I only paid around £75-85 for my Noppoo and I got that shipped from China, so you can see the difference in pricing right there.

The feet are extremely sturdy and have a rubberised centre, they feel strong and it is hard to move the keyboard if you are simply pushing it along the desk.

The key printing on the keyboard itself is immaculate with no keys that are faded or fading away nor does the key printing feel cheap and uneasy on the hands.

Filco wins the build quality round.

Keycap quality and type.

So what about the typing feel, the keys, the keycaps? Well, ever since I had my Noppoo I absolutely fell in love with POM keycaps, I like the smoother feel, I do not like PBT what so ever, they feel strange and extremely clunky underneath my fingers and because of this my typing experience on the Keycool was not 100% perfect. This has completely changed when I got my Filco, typing on a Filco using Red switches? it's like heaven.

The keys just feel fantastic. Now, I am not 100% sure what keycaps are being used on this Filco but they are either ABS or POM, they feel like POM to me but I could be wrong in this regard, so do not quote me on that! Maybe PBT may be well suited for your fingers, but they are not suited for mine and that's why I love typing on this keyboard so much more than before, it just feels 'right'.

Filco wins the keycap quality round.

Features and what's included in the box?

So you're probably wondering, what features does the Filco come with? Well that's a very simple and straight forward answer, it comes with none. The Filco is an amazing keyboard, but I guess this is one area where it is lacking. It does not feature any numpad keys (like the Keycool) nor does it have any function keys such as play, stop, next, mute etc. I don't find this to be a problem because I never used them in the first place, but if you're a user who likes convenience, then you may find this a little bit daunting when purchasing your filco.

Inside the box, you get:

The Keyboard,
A small manual,
A PS/2 - USB Adapter,
Protective case to prevent dust, you can use this when you go to sleep if you're anal about keeping your keyboard clean.

Unfortunately, I would have to give this round to the Keycool, it comes with more features, has more functionality and also, more is included inside the box of the Keycool, but this is not a deterring feature in my eyes.

Overview:

My honest opinion of the Filco 2 days in is that, it is simply an amazing keyboard and I honestly think that if I purchased this right after my old Noppoo broke, I wouldn't have spent more money on two other Keycool keyboards. The Filco is simple and elegant and has all the features that I could ask for within a keyboard. Feels and looks nice, ABS/POM keycaps, perfect key printing, simple and it just 'works'.

I think looking back now I would of preferred to go for the keyboard where the it has the side printing, but I can just buy that off the keyboardstore themselves, so that's no big loss really.

I think this is a huge improvement over my old Keycool 84, especially now that I have red switches again.

I would give this keyboard a solid 8/10, the missing 2 marks are down to the lack of function keys and lack of de attachable USB connection and one other nit-picky thing, because I have used small factor keyboards in the past, I am constantly hitting the enter key in place of the ' key and this is annoying, so when I am using "they're" and what not, using proper grammar, I will sometimes hit the enter key mid-conversation and this can be annoying at times, but this is more of a time thing, as I'm sure overtime I will get used to the keyboard more and more and those sorts of problems will be re-occuring.
« Last Edit: Wed, 04 December 2013, 22:59:25 by Fragil1ty »
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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 04 December 2013, 16:30:21 »
Browns - I thought I was going to like browns a lot more than I previously anticipated, I didn't. I did not really like browns, they felt kind of weird to me, they have a slight bump and they around the same actuation force as reds, reds have 45g and I believe browns have 55g of actuation force for them to be pressed. Browns are a good switch to look into if you're coming from blues and you want something a little better but you don't want to buy reds, they are good for that, but I just didn't like them, they felt weird to me, I didn't like the slight bump they had, they seemed a little noisy in-comparison to reds (maybe that was just the keyboard). But saying this, if I couldn't have reds for whatever reason, I would definitely go with Browns, they are a great option for both typing and gaming alike.

I liked your review until that point.
OT: Nice review. I might not sync with your choice of switches (reds are really great, I just personally put them a little below Browns), but the review was well-written and detailed. A little much on the actual switch section, though.
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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 04 December 2013, 18:43:38 »
I think Filco has ABS keycaps.

Nice, detailed review! It's the first time I've seen someone praise Filco keycaps, haha.

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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 04 December 2013, 22:55:44 »
Browns - I thought I was going to like browns a lot more than I previously anticipated, I didn't. I did not really like browns, they felt kind of weird to me, they have a slight bump and they around the same actuation force as reds, reds have 45g and I believe browns have 55g of actuation force for them to be pressed. Browns are a good switch to look into if you're coming from blues and you want something a little better but you don't want to buy reds, they are good for that, but I just didn't like them, they felt weird to me, I didn't like the slight bump they had, they seemed a little noisy in-comparison to reds (maybe that was just the keyboard). But saying this, if I couldn't have reds for whatever reason, I would definitely go with Browns, they are a great option for both typing and gaming alike.

I liked your review until that point.
OT: Nice review. I might not sync with your choice of switches (reds are really great, I just personally put them a little below Browns), but the review was well-written and detailed. A little much on the actual switch section, though.

I see what you meant by this and consider it amended. :)

I think Filco has ABS keycaps.

Nice, detailed review! It's the first time I've seen someone praise Filco keycaps, haha.

Oh, do many users not like them? What do people replace the keycaps with? (just curious really).
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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 04 December 2013, 23:25:04 »
I see what you meant by this and consider it amended. :)
:D Wonderful.
I would normally consider a keyboard like the Filco, but recently I've been having issues with my fingers when I type, and it's really quite bothersome. After my gimmicky Shine 3 Yellow (with Blues) arrives, my next keyboard really must either be an Ergodox or a Kinesis/something similar.
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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 05 December 2013, 02:41:00 »
I think Filco has ABS keycaps.

Nice, detailed review! It's the first time I've seen someone praise Filco keycaps, haha.

Oh, do many users not like them? What do people replace the keycaps with? (just curious really).

Yes a nice review of the old favourite which is the FILCO keyboard.  I still love them for their quality and of course, extremely easy customization here on Geekhack.

Currently there are so many Group Buys running you'll have quite a choice in selecting which key-set to buy for your Filco.  Currently I'm mad for anything in an SA Profile  :thumb: .

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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 05 December 2013, 03:05:22 »
I think Filco has ABS keycaps.

Nice, detailed review! It's the first time I've seen someone praise Filco keycaps, haha.

Oh, do many users not like them? What do people replace the keycaps with? (just curious really).
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No, most people prefer thicker keycaps actually that don't shine. Filco keycaps are thin ABS so they shine pretty easily :( Otherwise it's a solid board.

People replace them with PBT keycaps usually.

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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 05 December 2013, 12:52:47 »
Not a fan of the Filco caps at all.I bought a set of caps from them and they shined in like 4 months. If I ever buy a Filco (which I will eventually) the first thing I'll do is throw some thick PBT on it.
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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:12:36 »
The Filco caps are ABS, as are almost all double shot keycaps.

The Filco caps are printed, not dye -sub (which stinks), but is more durable than other printed caps I have used. Many people can get years out of the stock caps before the legends wipe off, others may only get a few months.
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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:17:11 »
The Filco caps are ABS, as are almost all double shot keycaps.

The Filco caps are printed, not dye -sub (which stinks), but is more durable than other printed caps I have used. Many people can get years out of the stock caps before the legends wipe off, others may only get a few months.

Are they just UV coated, or are there other ways to make pad printing last longer?
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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:22:04 »
The Filco caps are ABS, as are almost all double shot keycaps.

The Filco caps are printed, not dye -sub (which stinks), but is more durable than other printed caps I have used. Many people can get years out of the stock caps before the legends wipe off, others may only get a few months.

Are they just UV coated, or are there other ways to make pad printing last longer?

I think the plastic is coated and then the legend is added on top (which seems silly to me, but that 's what it looks like)

The legends on both my TKLs are starting to fade. The one with reds been my gamer for about 2 months now, so the fading is around WASD. The one with blues wrote some mean essays before the cable died, so that's just general fading.
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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:35:36 »
The Filco caps are ABS, as are almost all double shot keycaps.

The Filco caps are printed, not dye -sub (which stinks), but is more durable than other printed caps I have used. Many people can get years out of the stock caps before the legends wipe off, others may only get a few months.

Are they just UV coated, or are there other ways to make pad printing last longer?

I think the plastic is coated and then the legend is added on top (which seems silly to me, but that 's what it looks like)

The legends on both my TKLs are starting to fade. The one with reds been my gamer for about 2 months now, so the fading is around WASD. The one with blues wrote some mean essays before the cable died, so that's just general fading.

Switch to blank keycaps, laugh when people talk about printed keycaps.  :D
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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:41:49 »
The Filco caps are ABS, as are almost all double shot keycaps.

The Filco caps are printed, not dye -sub (which stinks), but is more durable than other printed caps I have used. Many people can get years out of the stock caps before the legends wipe off, others may only get a few months.

Are they just UV coated, or are there other ways to make pad printing last longer?

I think the plastic is coated and then the legend is added on top (which seems silly to me, but that 's what it looks like)

The legends on both my TKLs are starting to fade. The one with reds been my gamer for about 2 months now, so the fading is around WASD. The one with blues wrote some mean essays before the cable died, so that's just general fading.

Switch to blank keycaps, laugh when people talk about printed keycaps.  :D

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« Reply #13 on: Thu, 05 December 2013, 17:54:27 »
Switch to blank keycaps, laugh when people talk about printed keycaps.  :D
There is also doubleshot and dye-sub. I prefer legends even if/when I don't need them.

My Filco was/is a darn good keyboard, it would just be nice if they included better caps. Even dye-subs would make it a more attractive buy.  Sure, a removable cable or LED's would be nice, but these are just nice extras. I would rather have a good solid keyboard than all the bells and whistles on something lesser.
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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 05 December 2013, 22:07:18 »
I'm a trash tier touch typist, so no

I wasn't being serious, it's not most people's thing.

There is also doubleshot and dye-sub. I prefer legends even if/when I don't need them.

My Filco was/is a darn good keyboard, it would just be nice if they included better caps. Even dye-subs would make it a more attractive buy.  Sure, a removable cable or LED's would be nice, but these are just nice extras. I would rather have a good solid keyboard than all the bells and whistles on something lesser.

My singular concern with keycaps is that they'll fade and then look ugly. I know it doesn't happen with dye-sub or DS, but I realized that getting DS PBT is really quite difficult and thick PBT won't show under backlighting anyways, so blank seems to be the more sensible choice. I really would like the possible next-round Raindrop or Ragnorock set, though.

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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #15 on: Sat, 14 December 2013, 14:09:44 »
I've always loved POM over PBT, I've got two Keycool 84's which have PBT keycaps, but obviouly, I cannot use them for the most part as they have some keys that do not fit correct, e.g. right alt, control, etc.

I'd rather replace every key than just a few.

I'm actually selling this Keyboard though as I'm buying a Noppoo again (my first 84 key, keyboard) - Only used it like twice, currently using my Keycool, I  just can't stray away from the layout/size of the 85% boards. >.<
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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #16 on: Sat, 14 December 2013, 21:05:17 »
I've always loved POM over PBT, I've got two Keycool 84's which have PBT keycaps, but obviouly, I cannot use them for the most part as they have some keys that do not fit correct, e.g. right alt, control, etc.

I'd rather replace every key than just a few.

I'm actually selling this Keyboard though as I'm buying a Noppoo again (my first 84 key, keyboard) - Only used it like twice, currently using my Keycool, I  just can't stray away from the layout/size of the 85% boards. >.<

Hah, you should see my TK, it's a real patchwork of Keycool caps, a Corsair spacebar, Oktoberfest clack, and some original ABS caps.
I'd like to try out POM some time, though.
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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 22 December 2013, 13:33:42 »
Great review Fragility! I love Filco boards myself...I already own two xD

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« Reply #18 on: Mon, 30 December 2013, 22:53:41 »
Awesome review. Looks like the only thing you need now a wrist rest :)

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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 11 January 2014, 19:09:40 »
I went and got one, but I've switched back to 84-key keyboards since this time, I just cannot use the longer keyboards, they're just too big for me, I'm not sure why ;(
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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 11 January 2014, 20:58:48 »
I went and got one, but I've switched back to 84-key keyboards since this time, I just cannot use the longer keyboards, they're just too big for me, I'm not sure why ;(

That's fine, because not all people have huge hands.  I find those sticking to HHKB keyboards have tiny hands reminiscent of dwarfs and midgets.  Hence anything larger than a HHKB is simply unergonomic for them.

Always buy keyboards that suit your hands, arms and shoulder width.  Don't let anyone else force you into buying something that is too small or too big for you.  Just get the perfect "goldilock's' sized keyboard for yourself.

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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #21 on: Sat, 11 January 2014, 21:33:53 »
I went and got one, but I've switched back to 84-key keyboards since this time, I just cannot use the longer keyboards, they're just too big for me, I'm not sure why ;(

That's fine, because not all people have huge hands.  I find those sticking to HHKB keyboards have tiny hands reminiscent of dwarfs and midgets.  Hence anything larger than a HHKB is simply unergonomic for them.

Always buy keyboards that suit your hands, arms and shoulder width.  Don't let anyone else force you into buying something that is too small or too big for you.  Just get the perfect "goldilock's' sized keyboard for yourself.

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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 12 January 2014, 02:37:28 »
I always find myself wanting to go back to the Filco though, it's just an amazing keyboard and it cost me a fair bit of money too, it just feels more expensive, it just feels better and what not, ugh, choices, choices.
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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 12 January 2014, 02:53:45 »
If you like smooth keycaps, the answer is quite simple:  buy a set of these http://www.diatec.co.jp/shop/2cmold/ Doubleshot Sphericals.

I absolutely love these on my Filco TKL (fwiw, my favorites are also MX Reds, by far)
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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 12 January 2014, 19:52:32 »
If you like smooth keycaps, the answer is quite simple:  buy a set of these http://www.diatec.co.jp/shop/2cmold/ Doubleshot Sphericals.

I absolutely love these on my Filco TKL (fwiw, my favorites are also MX Reds, by far)

The problem that i'm constantly having with my Filco is the fact that it's just a bit too long, I'm far too used to having 80% boards such as my keycool and noppoo and I love them boards, so that's why I find it extremely difficult to switch, I know the filco tkl is only a tiny bit bigger, but it does actually make all the difference.

It's a little annoying to be honest because the filco tkl is the best mx cherry red board that i've ever typed on.
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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 13 January 2014, 03:21:17 »
The problem that i'm constantly having with my Filco is the fact that it's just a bit too long, I'm far too used to having 80% boards such as my keycool and noppoo and I love them boards, so that's why I find it extremely difficult to switch, I know the filco tkl is only a tiny bit bigger, but it does actually make all the difference.

It's a little annoying to be honest because the filco tkl is the best mx cherry red board that i've ever typed on.

I personally have found that the best way to deal with this is, just enjoy the aspects of the board that you are typing on.  If I didn't follow this mantra myself, I'd probably sell all my boards and just use the hhkb! 

For example, on the Filco, I find myself enjoying the smoothness of MX Reds and the solid build of the keyboard, even though the board weighs a ton.  On the hhkb, I appreciate the ease-of-typing and the great layout, despite the relatively flimsy feel of the caps.

If the small deficiencies really bother you, you will end up spending a lot of money trying to get rid of those nits.  Not only that, what you may like or bother you will likely change over time.
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Re: Fragil1ty reviews a Filco tenkeyless /w Cherry reds.
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 13 January 2014, 05:07:44 »
The problem that i'm constantly having with my Filco is the fact that it's just a bit too long, I'm far too used to having 80% boards such as my keycool and noppoo and I love them boards, so that's why I find it extremely difficult to switch, I know the filco tkl is only a tiny bit bigger, but it does actually make all the difference.

It's a little annoying to be honest because the filco tkl is the best mx cherry red board that i've ever typed on.

I personally have found that the best way to deal with this is, just enjoy the aspects of the board that you are typing on.  If I didn't follow this mantra myself, I'd probably sell all my boards and just use the hhkb! 

For example, on the Filco, I find myself enjoying the smoothness of MX Reds and the solid build of the keyboard, even though the board weighs a ton.  On the hhkb, I appreciate the ease-of-typing and the great layout, despite the relatively flimsy feel of the caps.

If the small deficiencies really bother you, you will end up spending a lot of money trying to get rid of those nits.  Not only that, what you may like or bother you will likely change over time.

Yeah I know exactly where you're coming from with this, I'e switched back and forth between my keyboards so many times now, I've lost count, I guess it's just one of those things! I think overall, I'm going to try and sell the Filco, see if I can recover my losses and just try and stick to one keyboard.

I'd absolutely love to have a HHKB2 though, my god, that'd be amazing.
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