O boy I did it! Ordered a X1 Carbon 2017... now I'm broke hehe

[iLLucionist]

Not sure if this should be in offtopic or in "other geeky stuff". But it is a laptop, so I post here first.

I've just pulled the trigger: I've ordered the X1 Carbon 2017 with:
- i5-7300U
- 16GB LDDR3
- 1 TB SSD M.2 NVME (actually cheaper in Netherlands than buying a 960 evo / 950 pro separately and installing myself)
- 4 year on-site next business day support.

It was 2391.40 Euro's with 5% discount.

Yes a lot of money, but consider:
- ThinkPad legendary keyboard
- only 15.9 mm thick
- only 1.14 kg
- with word/browsing, should last 10 hours real life linux or win10
- 1h charging gives 90% battery capacity
- 300 nits 1920x1080 matte screen
- EDIT: also, impress the ladies yiisss

I was used to Apple Tax, so from my perspective it is relatively cheap. My Late 2010 MacBook Pro was 3200 euro's back in the day, The new 2016 MacBook Pro would've cost me around 4200 euro's (given that you should max out specs as literally everything is soldered on or glued on, including storage and battery).

[rmendis]

Sweet! Congrats!

[tp4tissue]

Congratulations,  Now you're better than everyone else,  and all the females will flock to you @ the coffee shops because you got such a rich person laptop.

[iLLucionist]

Sweet! Congrats!

Thanks! Now the wait begins... up to 16 days aaaargh

[iLLucionist]

Congratulations,  Now you're better than everyone else,  and all the females will flock to you @ the coffee shops because you got such a rich person laptop.

Thanks! Little do they know it's ALL I have now. hehehehe But... if it gets me laid it's a win right.

[funderburker]

Congrats! Always nice to see fellow Thinkpad user. I started out with X200s, now I use T460 and I can't imagine switching to any other brand to be honest. My experience is swell and hope yours will be too!

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[rmendis]

Sweet! Congrats!

Thanks! Now the wait begins... up to 16 days aaaargh

That's pretty much 10 seconds in keeb group buy life. =)

[iLLucionist]

Congrats! Always nice to see fellow Thinkpad user. I started out with X200s, now I use T460 and I can't imagine switching to any other brand to be honest. My experience is swell and hope yours will be too!

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Mmmm that looks nice!

[iLLucionist]

Sweet! Congrats!

Thanks! Now the wait begins... up to 16 days aaaargh

That's pretty much 10 seconds in keeb group buy life. =)

Yeah... I ordered a 87U 55g in white off of massdrop.. I've been waiting MONTHS on it now. Should arrive in May... I HOPE **fingers crossed**

[funderburker]

Congrats! Always nice to see fellow Thinkpad user. I started out with X200s, now I use T460 and I can't imagine switching to any other brand to be honest. My experience is swell and hope yours will be too!

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Mmmm that looks nice!

JIS it does!

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[vivalarevolución]

Congratulations,  Now you're better than everyone else,  and all the females will flock to you @ the coffee shops because you got such a rich person laptop.

Even though the X1 Carbon is the sexiest of the Thinkpad line, I doubt its babe appeal, because babes don't know what is a Lenovo or ThinkPad or why it still has that ancient looking red nub thing.  I have a Thinkpad Yoga 260, which is pretty thin and cute, and people ask me why I bought such an old laptop.

[iLLucionist]

Congratulations,  Now you're better than everyone else,  and all the females will flock to you @ the coffee shops because you got such a rich person laptop.

Even though the X1 Carbon is the sexiest of the Thinkpad line, I doubt its babe appeal, because babes don't know what is a Lenovo or ThinkPad or why it still has that ancient looking red nub thing.  I have a Thinkpad Yoga 260, which is pretty thin and cute, and people ask me why I bought such an old laptop.

Well. for one women will know I'll take care of them when they see the Think-litoris on my keyboard hehehe

[tp4tissue]

Congratulations,  Now you're better than everyone else,  and all the females will flock to you @ the coffee shops because you got such a rich person laptop.

Even though the X1 Carbon is the sexiest of the Thinkpad line, I doubt its babe appeal, because babes don't know what is a Lenovo or ThinkPad or why it still has that ancient looking red nub thing.  I have a Thinkpad Yoga 260, which is pretty thin and cute, and people ask me why I bought such an old laptop.

There's a huge gap between people who understand material property and material aesthetics.

[tp4tissue]

[Leslieann]

Not sure if this should be in offtopic or in "other geeky stuff". But it is a laptop, so I post here first.

I've just pulled the trigger: I've ordered the X1 Carbon 2017 with:
- i5-7300U
- 16GB LDDR3
- 1 TB SSD M.2 NVME (actually cheaper in Netherlands than buying a 960 evo / 950 pro separately and installing myself)
- 4 year on-site next business day support.

Good, smart choices! Congrats!

One note, on battery expect an hour or two less in Linux, even with some tweaking (OH NO! only 8 hours!), without tweaking though, it could be as low as 5 or 6.

[iLLucionist]

Congratulations,  Now you're better than everyone else,  and all the females will flock to you @ the coffee shops because you got such a rich person laptop.

Even though the X1 Carbon is the sexiest of the Thinkpad line, I doubt its babe appeal, because babes don't know what is a Lenovo or ThinkPad or why it still has that ancient looking red nub thing.  I have a Thinkpad Yoga 260, which is pretty thin and cute, and people ask me why I bought such an old laptop.

There's a huge gap between people who understand material property and material aesthetics.

Sad but true.

[iLLucionist]

Not sure if this should be in offtopic or in "other geeky stuff". But it is a laptop, so I post here first.

I've just pulled the trigger: I've ordered the X1 Carbon 2017 with:
- i5-7300U
- 16GB LDDR3
- 1 TB SSD M.2 NVME (actually cheaper in Netherlands than buying a 960 evo / 950 pro separately and installing myself)
- 4 year on-site next business day support.

Good, smart choices! Congrats!

One note, on battery expect an hour or two less in Linux, even with some tweaking (OH NO! only 8 hours!), without tweaking though, it could be as low as 5 or 6.

Yeah, thanks! I read that... but then some people still report getting 10 hours. So we'll see about that. I thought it was primarily that linux still has no proper NVME power states implementation, right?

I was thinking xubuntu, because I like xfce, and I read that xubuntu has good power management built-in, also optimized kernel for it.

I have much experience with linux, but zero with linux mobile / on batteries.

[Leslieann]

Yeah, thanks! I read that... but then some people still report getting 10 hours. So we'll see about that. I thought it was primarily that linux still has no proper NVME power states implementation, right?

I was thinking xubuntu, because I like xfce, and I read that xubuntu has good power management built-in, also optimized kernel for it.

I have much experience with linux, but zero with linux mobile / on batteries.

Not sure on NVME support on Linux, I know it's an issue on Hackintosh.

I would be surprised if they really are getting the same as Windows (that's REALLY rare).
At idle the 'Buntus are pretty good out of the box on battery, contrary to what people think. If you install Powertop and compare it to a "low power" system such as WATT or LUBUNTU and such, Ubuntu and Mint Cinnamon are actually almost exactly the same for power draw. However, at idle it's still usually a watt or two above what Windows is using (based on Battery Bar).

The biggest benefit to power you will find is installing TLP, you can control the CPU throttle while on battery better, set it to 50% while on battery, which is what MS does, and your battery life will instantly be far better when under load. Which is where your battery gets murdered in Linux. You also want Thermald and Pstate and kill the stock power management.

That said, I would see exactly what they are doing before trying to do anything I recommend as they have the systems in their hands, I do not. Then probably mix and match to see what got me the most.

[iLLucionist]

Yeah, thanks! I read that... but then some people still report getting 10 hours. So we'll see about that. I thought it was primarily that linux still has no proper NVME power states implementation, right?

I was thinking xubuntu, because I like xfce, and I read that xubuntu has good power management built-in, also optimized kernel for it.

I have much experience with linux, but zero with linux mobile / on batteries.

Not sure on NVME support on Linux, I know it's an issue on Hackintosh.

I would be surprised if they really are getting the same as Windows (that's REALLY rare).
At idle the 'Buntus are pretty good out of the box on battery, contrary to what people think. If you install Powertop and compare it to a "low power" system such as WATT or LUBUNTU and such, Ubuntu and Mint Cinnamon are actually almost exactly the same for power draw. However, at idle it's still usually a watt or two above what Windows is using (based on Battery Bar).

The biggest benefit to power you will find is installing TLP, you can control the CPU throttle while on battery better, set it to 50% while on battery, which is what MS does, and your battery life will instantly be far better when under load. Which is where your battery gets murdered in Linux. You also want Thermald and Pstate and kill the stock power management.

That said, I would see exactly what they are doing before trying to do anything I recommend as they have the systems in their hands, I do not. Then probably mix and match to see what got me the most.

Thanks!

Carry to explain a bit more what you mean with: "You also want Thermald and Pstate and kill the stock power management." ??

[Leslieann]

Basically pstate and thermald is Intel's built in cpu throttling system, it's cpu/board level power management and will conflict with the Linux power management.

TLP lets you enable and disable things as well as set limits, it isn;t power management so much as just setting limits.

[iLLucionist]

Basically pstate and thermald is Intel's built in cpu throttling system, it's cpu/board level power management and will conflict with the Linux power management.

TLP lets you enable and disable things as well as set limits, it isn;t power management so much as just setting limits.

Thanks! Very informative. I'll check that out once I have the ThinkPad.

Now... would TP in TP4Tissue stand for ThinkPad?