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Title: [IC] GMK Halloween - NEW COLOR WAY + POLL UPDATED 09/13/16!
Post by: E11even on Fri, 09 September 2016, 22:57:27
【09-13-16 UPDATE】

TAKE MY POLL, PLEASE!
 (https://goo.gl/forms/qDT0cIJ3lF2Htnro2)


Thanks for the suggestions and support everyone!


It seems purple (gmk color: DY) on black (gmk color: CR) is one of the major concerns for some folks.
I've changed the legend color from purple (gmk color: DY) to light purple (PANTONE 263U)
so that


1) there're more contrast on alphas!
2) still keep the purple as main color in this set

2D Renders updated 09-13-16
[attachimg=4]


Another option could be legend PANTONE 2087C
which is a slightly darker purple but I believe is still readable.

[attachimg=5]

I want to get a little bit more feedback / interest about this keyset to proceed to the next phase - get renders from GMK


【ORIGINAL POST】

Hi everyone,

I'm E11even. This is my first IC here. I'm seeking for advice and would love to hear your thoughts about this keyset.
The idea is from Halloween


[attachimg=1]

I chose purple and yellow as the main color in this keyset for two main reasons.
1) Obviously they are classic Halloween colors
2) GMK got colors which perfectly fit: DY and V2


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The set is not completed yet, but I want to get the interest first and then decide whether to further work on this.


Here's the initial idea of the set.
Alphanumeric base: CR, legend: DY
Modifier base: DY / V2, legend V2 / DY


GMK Halloween - Updated 11-09-16

More
[attachimg=3]

Still working on more novelties options, I call it *Trck*, besides pumpkin, ghost and spider net, also plan to include witch hat, cat, bat, etc.


Also plan to work on another novelties, I call it *Treat*. Can imagine colorful pack with candies!
Yes, because it is Halloween, it is Trick or Treat ;)




TO DO(S)
1. Get thoughts / interests from GH
2. Add keys if enough interests

Now I have
- WKL kit
- 1800 kit
- ISO kit

Plan to add
- ISO kit
- Novelties: Trick - add cat and bat; Treat - add candies
- Other kits if enough interest, HHKB if enough interest


3. Get render from GMK
4. 3D render
5. Get pricing and timeline info


WORKLOG
09-09-16 Initial IC
09-11-16 Added ISO kit, 1800 kit
09-13-16 Updated colorways, added polls
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 09 September 2016, 23:35:03
Purple is my favourite colour and I love Halloween - the TKL mockup looks great, I'm for sure in. Congrats on a beautiful set for your first IC! Hoping you manage to have it get as much attention as I think it deserves.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 09 September 2016, 23:42:41
I also love purple on my keyboards, second is cyan, third is orange so this works. For better 1800 or general support probably need to include some 1.5u mods ey (unless I'm missing something)? Wish it would arrive in time for this Halloween! Although I'm slightly curious if this GB will be a... "trick"  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: E11even on Sat, 10 September 2016, 01:16:56
I also love purple on my keyboards, second is cyan, third is orange so this works. For better 1800 or general support probably need to include some 1.5u mods ey (unless I'm missing something)? Wish it would arrive in time for this Halloween! Although I'm slightly curious if this GB will be a... "trick"  ;)

Thanks!
I just added 1.5u mods and 7u spacebars :)

Well, I hope this would be a treat than trick!
I will work my butt off to try finalize this set by Halloween;) Ahh, but I guess I need to get enough interest first!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: E11even on Sat, 10 September 2016, 01:18:53
Purple is my favourite colour and I love Halloween - the TKL mockup looks great, I'm for sure in. Congrats on a beautiful set for your first IC! Hoping you manage to have it get as much attention as I think it deserves.

Thank you! Glad you like the color! So far I didn't see a lot of GMK keysets with purple. Hope this one could be a successful one!
Do you have any suggestions on getting more attentions?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: yulei on Sat, 10 September 2016, 01:34:22
1800 also need 1.75U shift. And as you already added 1.5 mod and 7u space, you can add 3 extra keys for HHKB, 1u backslash and 1.5u delete, 1.75u control.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: E11even on Sat, 10 September 2016, 01:54:38
1800 also need 1.75U shift. And as you already added 1.5 mod and 7u space, you can add 3 extra keys for HHKB, 1u backslash and 1.5u delete, 1.75u control.

Thanks man! Added 1.75u shift. Will add HHKB keys if there's enough interest!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Sat, 10 September 2016, 02:12:42
For the sake of having expensive keysets provide some utility, it may also be a good idea to add a WinKey for when it isn't Halloween. I'm actually not sure if the Code key fills this need however. Other than that I don't know, it looks good! Maybe an alternate colored spacebar?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: jchan94 on Sat, 10 September 2016, 02:14:57
Purple on black might be rough to read mate.

But the idea seems there! Definitely don't like Halloween that much in general but hope you make this set real!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: suicidal_orange on Sat, 10 September 2016, 03:55:02
Looks great, could be more orange but purple is good too.

Pretty sure I've spotted a problem though - gmk don't do novelties?  Unless things have changed recently...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: MandrewDavis on Sat, 10 September 2016, 04:19:14
Looks great, could be more orange but purple is good too.

Pretty sure I've spotted a problem though - gmk don't do novelties?  Unless things have changed recently...

GMK is doing some novelties for Hydro(?) and there was a GMK Carbon novelty kit, but that whole set sold in crazy numbers.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: suicidal_orange on Sat, 10 September 2016, 06:34:37
Looks great, could be more orange but purple is good too.

Pretty sure I've spotted a problem though - gmk don't do novelties?  Unless things have changed recently...

GMK is doing some novelties for Hydro(?) and there was a GMK Carbon novelty kit, but that whole set sold in crazy numbers.

Ooh nice!  Thanks for the correction :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: graefeln on Sat, 10 September 2016, 06:48:09
I'd probably be interested if you added 'HHKB' support - depends on what the price looks like with all the novelties you want. I run a WKL bottom row as it is, so if all the novelties are 1.25u R4, they wouldn't even go on my board.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: Camzel on Sat, 10 September 2016, 07:01:16
I expected to see a bit more orange, but I guess the colors are nice. Definitely would buy.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 10 September 2016, 09:09:01
Thank you! Glad you like the color! So far I didn't see a lot of GMK keysets with purple. Hope this one could be a successful one!
Do you have any suggestions on getting more attentions?

I'm fairly new to the keyboard community myself so I can't be of much help unfortunately.

I do agree though, not many purple GMK sets around (or in general actually) - I'm still using the Tai-hao light violet/white on one of my keyboards! Really hoping this works out, there are so many novelties that can be made to fit the Halloween theme as well!

Purple on black might be rough to read mate.

It might be yea, I personally don't mind that though as I think it will look fantastic that way - though as can be seen from a few other group buys people tend to want the legends to be as readable as possible, I'm in the minority when I like mine to be discreet and stealthy.  :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: Scarlett on Sat, 10 September 2016, 13:08:09
Nice! The set reminds me about Soul Eater haha. I love that anime

Can you make some corn candy novelties or keycap with Trick or Treat? title?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: E11even on Sat, 10 September 2016, 21:14:27
Nice! The set reminds me about Soul Eater haha. I love that anime

Can you make some corn candy novelties or keycap with Trick or Treat? title?

Yeah, definitely want to add some candies, especially corn candies ;)
For "Trick or Treat" probably will have one for enter or other mod keys with separate "Trick" / "Treat"
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: E11even on Sat, 10 September 2016, 21:17:25
Purple on black might be rough to read mate.

But the idea seems there! Definitely don't like Halloween that much in general but hope you make this set real!

Thank you! Glad you like the color! So far I didn't see a lot of GMK keysets with purple. Hope this one could be a successful one!
Do you have any suggestions on getting more attentions?

I'm fairly new to the keyboard community myself so I can't be of much help unfortunately.

I do agree though, not many purple GMK sets around (or in general actually) - I'm still using the Tai-hao light violet/white on one of my keyboards! Really hoping this works out, there are so many novelties that can be made to fit the Halloween theme as well!

Purple on black might be rough to read mate.

It might be yea, I personally don't mind that though as I think it will look fantastic that way - though as can be seen from a few other group buys people tend to want the legends to be as readable as possible, I'm in the minority when I like mine to be discreet and stealthy.  :D

Yeah, I could also try the orange legend for alphanumeric, but the concern I have is that there are few kits with orange legends, say Skidata and Carbon. The purple legend could differentiate this set with others.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: Halverson on Sat, 10 September 2016, 21:24:31
I do like the colors, perhaps an orange wasd kit would look nice.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 10 September 2016, 21:27:26
Yea I'm all for the purple legends, think it'll look a lot better than orange regardless and yea it'll help set it apart from carbon and and skidata. I think this set's strong point is its focus on purple and black rather than the usual orange associated with Halloween, changing the core like that just because the legend isn't super vibrant would be a shame.

I think they're readable enough as is either way, but like I said I might be biased because I tend to be partial to stealthier/subtle legends, probably a good idea to just wait and see if it's a common opinion in the thread over a couple weeks and then go over potential "fixes" if need be.

I do like the colors, perhaps an orange wasd kit would look nice.

Now that there is a great idea. Could even add some extra orange mods like a space bar etc.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: Calmfixup on Sat, 10 September 2016, 22:30:15
 I agree with Vigrith, I'm really in it for the Purple and Black, Purple is my favorite color and regardless as long as you're using that I'm in :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: greywinthrop on Sat, 10 September 2016, 22:58:55
I'm not sure if I'd use the purple with orange mods all the time, but black with purple legends is right up my alley, and if you have novelties in purple with black bats and cats, I may have to buy more than one set of those.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: E11even on Sat, 10 September 2016, 23:42:04
I'm not sure if I'd use the purple with orange mods all the time, but black with purple legends is right up my alley, and if you have novelties in purple with black bats and cats, I may have to buy more than one set of those.

I do like the colors, perhaps an orange wasd kit would look nice.

I agree with Vigrith, I'm really in it for the Purple and Black, Purple is my favorite color and regardless as long as you're using that I'm in :D

Yea I'm all for the purple legends, think it'll look a lot better than orange regardless and yea it'll help set it apart from carbon and and skidata. I think this set's strong point is its focus on purple and black rather than the usual orange associated with Halloween, changing the core like that just because the legend isn't super vibrant would be a shame.

I think they're readable enough as is either way, but like I said I might be biased because I tend to be partial to stealthier/subtle legends, probably a good idea to just wait and see if it's a common opinion in the thread over a couple weeks and then go over potential "fixes" if need be.

I do like the colors, perhaps an orange wasd kit would look nice.

Now that there is a great idea. Could even add some extra orange mods like a space bar etc.

It seems purple legend is the unique point of this set! I will keep it and try to add some orange kit to this set!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: eyesmiles on Sun, 11 September 2016, 02:06:23
My birthday is on Halloween and I would definitely buy this set!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: ideus on Sun, 11 September 2016, 10:25:28
No HHKB support? It just takes five keys: 1.75 control, 1.5 backspace, 1.75 shift, 1u Fn and 1u |\ key.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 11 September 2016, 10:31:38
No HHKB support? It just takes five keys: 1.75 control, 1.5 backspace, 1.75 shift, 1u Fn and 1u |\ key.

Oh yea, hadn't noticed that - would be great to have HHKB support indeed.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: Sissy on Sun, 11 September 2016, 10:46:35
I like the idea a lot but not big on the purple and black. I see purple and orange being more prominent halloween colors, especially orange with pumpkins and such
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: shower_king on Sun, 11 September 2016, 20:51:34
1,i agree with Vigrith and Calm to some extent.  Purple modifiers with orange  legend is distinctly empressive. Perhaps we would try a more light and soft color for alpha. For example ,PANTONE 263 U at  http://www.pantone.com/color-finder/263-U.
(http://i1.piimg.com/567571/222fb86b6a847e51.png)
2, orange on n9 dark grey is charming (skidata), we have no real one keycap with purple on CR black or N9 dark grey, we could not confirm the real one if it is detectalbe and pleasant to our eyes. if we could ask GMK do some samples purple on CR such as carbon have done before we finalize this
3, Purple and orange spacebars are a good choice if added
4, all of us want more orange , such as F1-F4 , F9-F12 or number keycaps from 1--+
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 11 September 2016, 20:59:34
I was actually going to suggest that same exact thing before - if needed and if it is possible without driving up costs too much you could try using a lighter shade of violet for the legends on the alphas. Could do it so that it's just barely different but still improves readability if a lot of people see that as a deal breaker.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: OompaLoompa on Sun, 11 September 2016, 21:31:33
1st post! This is beautiful btw. Wish I had more to add but I don't. It's pretty great the way it is.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: William_S_Jones on Sun, 11 September 2016, 22:14:03
I love it and I'm interested!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: E11even on Mon, 12 September 2016, 01:10:54
My birthday is on Halloween and I would definitely buy this set!

I will try hard to make this happen ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: E11even on Mon, 12 September 2016, 01:11:37
No HHKB support? It just takes five keys: 1.75 control, 1.5 backspace, 1.75 shift, 1u Fn and 1u |\ key.

No HHKB support? It just takes five keys: 1.75 control, 1.5 backspace, 1.75 shift, 1u Fn and 1u |\ key.

Oh yea, hadn't noticed that - would be great to have HHKB support indeed.

Yeah, will add HHKB support if getting more requests
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: E11even on Mon, 12 September 2016, 01:18:57
I was actually going to suggest that same exact thing before - if needed and if it is possible without driving up costs too much you could try using a lighter shade of violet for the legends on the alphas. Could do it so that it's just barely different but still improves readability if a lot of people see that as a deal breaker.

1,i agree with Vigrith and Calm to some extent.  Purple modifiers with orange  legend is distinctly empressive. Perhaps we would try a more light and soft color for alpha. For example ,PANTONE 263 U at  http://www.pantone.com/color-finder/263-U.
Show Image
(http://i1.piimg.com/567571/222fb86b6a847e51.png)

2, orange on n9 dark grey is charming (skidata), we have no real one keycap with purple on CR black or N9 dark grey, we could not confirm the real one if it is detectalbe and pleasant to our eyes. if we could ask GMK do some samples purple on CR such as carbon have done before we finalize this
3, Purple and orange spacebars are a good choice if added
4, all of us want more orange , such as F1-F4 , F9-F12 or number keycaps from 1--+

Thanks for the suggestion!
I guess the PANTONE 263 U is a great idea to consider since I want to keep the purple legend.
I will try adding more orange to see how it looks like. I will start with spacebar and F1-F4, F9-F12 :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: E11even on Mon, 12 September 2016, 01:42:22
1st post! This is beautiful btw. Wish I had more to add but I don't. It's pretty great the way it is.

I love it and I'm interested!

Thanks for the support!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: WarCommand on Mon, 12 September 2016, 15:33:19
Into this, especially the purple. Good luck with the IC  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: William_S_Jones on Mon, 12 September 2016, 19:10:12
Into this, especially the purple. Good luck with the IC  :thumb:


Same here, I know it's a "Halloween theme", it's also reminds me of the Phoenix Suns and Clemson Tigers team colors. I'm sold on this colorway, just looking forward to the GB launch.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: gain on Mon, 12 September 2016, 20:11:45
I'm a sucker for halloween-anything even though I come from a place where it holds next to no significance

Definitely be down for a set   :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: William_S_Jones on Mon, 12 September 2016, 21:06:16
I'm a sucker for halloween-anything even though I come from a place where it holds next to no significance

Definitely be down for a set   :thumb:

Yeah me too!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: B1G_B1RD on Mon, 12 September 2016, 23:14:14
I'm lovin the pumpkin and ghost novelties. I think its really fun and is set apart from all other keysets, though im not sure if theres enough contrast with the purple on black.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: My_Thoughts on Tue, 13 September 2016, 08:27:54
Looks interesting but not sure about the contrast :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: E11even on Tue, 13 September 2016, 21:29:58
Looks interesting but not sure about the contrast :(

It seems folks are pretty consistently expressing the concern on purple legend on black. I decided to use a lighter purple as a legend to make a stronger contrast.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween - NEW COLOR WAY + POLL UPDATED 09/13/16!
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 13 September 2016, 21:36:45
I like the use of the different purple on the legends. It doesn't look out of place and will make them easily legible. I think the purple color of the mods helps make this set so I hope that doesn't change.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween - NEW COLOR WAY + POLL UPDATED 09/13/16!
Post by: shower_king on Tue, 13 September 2016, 21:55:53
1,it is my great honor  that you adopt the light purple as legend for alpha. it seems that lighter purple fits better into black (CR) than purple (DY).
2,My original intention is choosing lighter purple for alpha color and black for legend. Currently ,it seems that you decision is much better than mine.
3,i appeicate your Halloween theme which consists in element such as"horror" ,"panic". Definitely , the black alpha is pretty fit into your Halloween theme than soft and light purple.
Good luck , i will keep a close eye on your update ,please keep it going on.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween - NEW COLOR WAY + POLL UPDATED 09/13/16!
Post by: aptivaboy on Tue, 13 September 2016, 22:25:38
I love the idea, but... I would like to see more Halloween orange. After all, orange is the color most of us associate with Halloween - pumpkins, jack-o-lanterns and all that - so I'd add more of it. Or... Make the characters orange. Think about orange characters atop the black keys, for example. Now, that would look sharp.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 13 September 2016, 22:32:03
It seems folks are pretty consistently expressing the concern on purple legend on black. I decided to use a lighter purple as a legend to make a stronger contrast.

Hope it turns out well! Whilst I was not one to share that concern as you know, I'm glad you can make more people happy and I'm still content with a lighter shade for sure.

I'll be a happy camper once I'm able to have a set I can sub in for Halloween (of next year!).  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween - NEW COLOR WAY + POLL UPDATED 09/13/16!
Post by: E11even on Tue, 13 September 2016, 22:34:10
I love the idea, but... I would like to see more Halloween orange. After all, orange is the color most of us associate with Halloween - pumpkins, jack-o-lanterns and all that - so I'd add more of it. Or... Make the characters orange. Think about orange characters atop the black keys, for example. Now, that would look sharp.

Yeah, at first I had the same thoughts - this should be an orange on black keys, but then I realized that would be similar as skidata and carbon
I would see how the orange mods fit into this set, and with more novelties!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween - NEW COLOR WAY + POLL UPDATED 09/13/16!
Post by: Halverson on Tue, 13 September 2016, 23:09:42
Hmmm that purple almost looks white to me :(
Hard to please everyone I guess!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween - NEW COLOR WAY + POLL UPDATED 09/13/16!
Post by: E11even on Tue, 13 September 2016, 23:38:03
Alright, I realized it would be difficult to please everyone, but I'm still trying to find a middle ground

Here're two renders, one with PANTONE 263U, which is a lighter purple, and the other PANTONE 2087C, which is a darker purple but I believe still readable.

PANTONE 263U
[attachimg=1]

PANTONE 2087C
[attachimg=2]

Let me know which one you prefer!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween - NEW COLOR WAY + POLL UPDATED 09/13/16!
Post by: simonyunhe on Wed, 14 September 2016, 00:17:59
Darker
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween - NEW COLOR WAY + POLL UPDATED 09/13/16!
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 14 September 2016, 00:29:07
Darker
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween - NEW COLOR WAY + POLL UPDATED 09/13/16!
Post by: graefeln on Wed, 14 September 2016, 05:46:17
I wasn't complaining about the original legends, but I think if you need to lighten them, they should still be on the darker side. A lighter side of purple, like lilac, might be easier to read, but it doesn't fit a Halloween theme IMO.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween - NEW COLOR WAY + POLL UPDATED 09/13/16!
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 14 September 2016, 08:46:25
Darker, 2087C looks very readable to me.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 14 September 2016, 12:51:09
I'm not sure if I'd use the purple with orange mods all the time, but black with purple legends is right up my alley, and if you have novelties in purple with black bats and cats, I may have to buy more than one set of those.

Agreed.  Would prefer black on purple for the mods and orange special keys.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween - NEW COLOR WAY + POLL UPDATED 09/13/16!
Post by: KHAANNN on Tue, 20 September 2016, 12:21:30
Nice/Cute set

However it seems there is a unique GMK colorway saturation too
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween - NEW COLOR WAY + POLL UPDATED 09/13/16!
Post by: potatobot on Tue, 20 September 2016, 23:52:22
Very similar to the set i posted on IC indeed! best of luck! :D

BTW, how did you generate the new colors of GMK?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween - NEW COLOR WAY + POLL UPDATED 09/13/16!
Post by: Cony_WANG on Wed, 21 September 2016, 03:05:34
I think N9 should be better than CR
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween - NEW COLOR WAY + POLL UPDATED 09/13/16!
Post by: William_S_Jones on Wed, 21 September 2016, 11:57:28
Darker, 2087C looks very readable to me.
Sam here, prefer the darker tone.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween - NEW COLOR WAY + POLL UPDATED 09/13/16!
Post by: Calmfixup on Thu, 22 September 2016, 17:59:30
Darker, please not the light!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Halloween - NEW COLOR WAY + POLL UPDATED 09/13/16!
Post by: lavalamp on Sun, 02 October 2016, 23:24:50