[GB] R2 PURPLE ZEALIO SWITCHES (Complete)

[Zeal]

Order here>>> http://zealpc.net/collections/group-buy-pre-orders/products/zealio

Hey guys, due to a few scheduled timeline requirements, R2 Zealio switch GB is now live! Thanks everyone for your patience and sorry about the wait!

For Round 2, three new things have been introduced:

• 78g spring weight now offered!
• Zealio stems are now a different shades of purple (lighter to darker) to make it easier to differentiate!
• 65g Zealios with transparent tops + milky white bottom housings in plate mount are now available. These switches can withstand the high heat of factory wave soldering and are super friendly for beginner solderers!

A better image will be provided once samples arrive. For now, this will have to do~

[Zeal]

Samples arrived...More pics to follow.



R1 on left, R2 on right.


March 7 update:
Switches are currently in production and are scheduled to complete on March 15/16.

March 17 update:
Switches are ready and are currently being packed, ready for import.

March 22 update:
First half of shipment has been picked up by DHL. ETA of switches and delivery on Wednesday & Thursday.

March 23 update:
First half of shipment has arrived.

March 28 update:
Second half of shipment has arrived, items have started shipping out today

April 13 update:
All pre-orders shipped out. GB complete.

[Odus]

I've been trying to get ahold of these for so long. Thanks Zeal!

Two questions - Are you going to have these stocked in the store at the regular $1.00 price after the drop, and are you going to be offering the lubed variant? 
If you have them stocked in the store afterward, is it going to be more permanent than it was before, or will it only be a leftover type of thing?

[Zeal]

I've been trying to get ahold of these for so long. Thanks Zeal!

Two questions - Are you going to have these stocked in the store at the regular $1.00 price after the drop, and are you going to be offering the lubed variant? 
If you have them stocked in the store afterward, is it going to be more permanent than it was before, or will it only be a leftover type of thing?

There will be leftovers stocked in the store at $1 after the GB price. There was supposed to be plenty left, but MD swept up the remaining stock which made it seem like they disappeared. Once R2 sells out, perhaps a R3 GB will happen.
Lubed variants will not be offered as how much lube to use is subjective, and these switches are already smoother than Cherry will ever be. Only a tiny bit of factory lube is applied at the tip of the slider feet.

[LeandreN]

Woo! 78gs ordered 

[appleonama]

I have 62 ergo clears with spirit gold plated spring and they feel a bit heavier than 65g zealios is that normal? Should I go with  67g?

[Zambumon]

Woo! 78gs ordered 

65s here! What a way to force myself to build a custom board.

[Zeal]

I have 62 ergo clears with spirit gold plated spring and they feel a bit heavier than 65g zealios is that normal? Should I go with  67g?

That shouldn't be the case... Zealios being smoother can make it feel like the switch is lighter though, but 62g and 65g should be easily distinguishable.

[appleonama]

I have 62 ergo clears with spirit gold plated spring and they feel a bit heavier than 65g zealios is that normal? Should I go with  67g?

That shouldn't be the case... Zealios being smoother can make it feel like the switch is lighter though, but 62g and 65g should be easily distinguishable.

You are right I just did a weight test. The zealios being smooth make it feel lighter. I still don't know if I should go with 67g 

[lanyusea]

I have 62 ergo clears with spirit gold plated spring and they feel a bit heavier than 65g zealios is that normal? Should I go with  67g?

That shouldn't be the case... Zealios being smoother can make it feel like the switch is lighter though, but 62g and 65g should be easily distinguishable.

You are right I just did a weight test. The zealios being smooth make it feel lighter. I still don't know if I should go with 67g 

maybe you could try the 78g version. 

[appleonama]

I have 62 ergo clears with spirit gold plated spring and they feel a bit heavier than 65g zealios is that normal? Should I go with  67g?

That shouldn't be the case... Zealios being smoother can make it feel like the switch is lighter though, but 62g and 65g should be easily distinguishable.

You are right I just did a weight test. The zealios being smooth make it feel lighter. I still don't know if I should go with 67g 

maybe you could try the 78g version. 

I know 78g would be way too heavy I only use 78g on my space bar

[asgeirtj]

Is the chattering issue fixed?

[appleonama]

can I add 10 78g with my order of 90 67g?

[Adriel]

I still cant't really decide on whether to get the milky bottom housing 65g or the standard 62g one. I know 62g ones will feel more or less like MX browns in terms of weight to bottom out but how do the 65g ones feel in comparison? And I'm also afraid of just being amateur in soldering and ruining the 62g switches, which are less resistant to heat than the 65g milky bottom ones.

[Waateva]

78g switches ordered!

[UTEster750]

Is the chattering issue fixed?

Zeal said that the moulds have been tweaked and that the issue should be now fixed.

Really want to order some 78g even though I have no need for them
Guess that means I need to find a new keyboard preject!

[iamtootallforthis]

Need to get in on this! Definitely gonna pick up some 78g and some more 67g and 65g.

[iss]

Are these the SMD-compatible milky bottoms?

[aznairjordan]

in for some 67s! I kinda wanted 1x 78g one to use as a spacebar but I didn't want to make your life hard. Is it still possible to add one after ordering?

[roostrc0gburn]

Not offering stems sold separately?

[fangs]

If anyone would do a service to replace switches that be great! I srly don't wanna f*** anything up with my new pok3r.. !

so if anyone could do this pm me! I live in Eu - Denmark if that helps
I would gladly pay 30-40€ for that...

[piemancoder]

This is probably a really noob question, but can you us plate mounted switches with a PCB?

[Waateva]

This is probably a really noob question, but can you us plate mounted switches with a PCB?

Yes, I think you just have to remove two of the legs on the switches.

[piemancoder]

This is probably a really noob question, but can you us plate mounted switches with a PCB?

Yes, I think you just have to remove two of the legs on the switches.

OK, thanks! Hope to order soon 

[xxxkaliboyxxx]

Ordered!  Question, I never solder switches before so I ordered the milky bottom, do they make soldering switches easier? And how so? Sorry for the noob question.

Edit: read that it should withstand high heat, so the other switches are less tolerant to high heat? Confused =(

[Steezus]

Ordered!  Question, I never solder switches before so I ordered the milky bottom, do they make soldering switches easier? And how so? Sorry for the noob question.

They don't make soldering easier per-se but the milky bottoms are more heat resistant and less prone to be melted than the full transparent bottoms.

[xxxkaliboyxxx]

Ordered!  Question, I never solder switches before so I ordered the milky bottom, do they make soldering switches easier? And how so? Sorry for the noob question.

They don't make soldering easier per-se but the milky bottoms are more heat resistant and less prone to be melted than the full transparent bottoms.

Thank you for the quick response. So for a first timer like me, a little more elbow room if I stay on too long soldering. Got it =)

[Zapheo]

I'll be placing my order soon!

[aaron6301]

In for some 67's, 65's, and 10 x 78's.

I plan on using only a few of the 78's for spacebar so if anyone plans on doing the same and doesn't want to order 10, PM me and can send you a few

[StarPupil]

Looks good! Here's a few questions for you: How much is shipping to the US, and do you think that 160 of these would weigh enough to drive that price up? Thanks!

[Steezus]

Looks good! Here's a few questions for you: How much is shipping to the US, and do you think that 160 of these would weigh enough to drive that price up? Thanks!

I'm pretty sure there is only one shipping that Zeal provides which is DHL Express(1 day shipping) for $15, unless it has changed since round 1 but I doubt it.

[profet]

This is probably a really noob question, but can you us plate mounted switches with a PCB?

Yes, I think you just have to remove two of the legs on the switches.

Actually the opposite. PCB mount switches have two extra plastic legs that snap into a PCB and keep the switch from rotating.

Plate mount switches laxk these legs as the plate keeps the switches in place.

Plate mounted switches should only be used with a PCB if you are also using a plate. Otherwise, the switches will can put extra strain on the solder joints and cause breakage.

[ari]

... R2 Zealio switch GB is now live!   ...

OH HELL YES!  Ordering now. 

Thank you, Zeal!

[daviswalkers]

One issue I ran into with the R1 buy is that the sip sockets I normally use would not work with these as the holes for the LEDs were much thinner than normal, do you know if this has either:
1. Been resolved (not even sure it was brought up as a problem so not sure resolved is the right word)
or
2. Are there different sip sockets you know of that would work with them?

Thanks

[Steezus]

One issue I ran into with the R1 buy is that the sip sockets I normally use would not work with these as the holes for the LEDs were much thinner than normal, do you know if this has either:
1. Been resolved (not even sure it was brought up as a problem so not sure resolved is the right word)
or
2. Are there different sip sockets you know of that would work with them?

Thanks

What sip sockets did you use? I have never had a problem with my Zealios.

[piemancoder]

This is probably a really noob question, but can you us plate mounted switches with a PCB?

Yes, I think you just have to remove two of the legs on the switches.

Actually the opposite. PCB mount switches have two extra plastic legs that snap into a PCB and keep the switch from rotating.

Plate mount switches laxk these legs as the plate keeps the switches in place.

Plate mounted switches should only be used with a PCB if you are also using a plate. Otherwise, the switches will can put extra strain on the solder joints and cause breakage.

Thank you! 

[Zeal]

One issue I ran into with the R1 buy is that the sip sockets I normally use would not work with these as the holes for the LEDs were much thinner than normal, do you know if this has either:
1. Been resolved (not even sure it was brought up as a problem so not sure resolved is the right word)
or
2. Are there different sip sockets you know of that would work with them?

Thanks

Sounds like the sip sockets you have are different from what the majority of people use. :x I've only had one other customer report of their sips not fitting.

The ones I sell are longer tailed, even longer than milmax by a bit. They fit inside the Zealios without issue.

[daviswalkers]

One issue I ran into with the R1 buy is that the sip sockets I normally use would not work with these as the holes for the LEDs were much thinner than normal, do you know if this has either:
1. Been resolved (not even sure it was brought up as a problem so not sure resolved is the right word)
or
2. Are there different sip sockets you know of that would work with them?

Thanks

What sip sockets did you use? I have never had a problem with my Zealios.

I forget who or where I was when I saw a post suggesting these http://www.ebay.com/itm/140910386490?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT but this is what I got.

One issue I ran into with the R1 buy is that the sip sockets I normally use would not work with these as the holes for the LEDs were much thinner than normal, do you know if this has either:
1. Been resolved (not even sure it was brought up as a problem so not sure resolved is the right word)
or
2. Are there different sip sockets you know of that would work with them?

Thanks

Sounds like the sip sockets you have are different from what the majority of people use. :x I've only had one other customer report of their sips not fitting.

The ones I sell are longer tailed, even longer than milmax by a bit. They fit inside the Zealios without issue.

Cool, thanks for the info!

[Steezus]

One issue I ran into with the R1 buy is that the sip sockets I normally use would not work with these as the holes for the LEDs were much thinner than normal, do you know if this has either:
1. Been resolved (not even sure it was brought up as a problem so not sure resolved is the right word)
or
2. Are there different sip sockets you know of that would work with them?

Thanks

What sip sockets did you use? I have never had a problem with my Zealios.

I forget who or where I was when I saw a post suggesting these http://www.ebay.com/itm/140910386490?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT but this is what I got.

I used the same dimension sip sockets and it worked fine for me, are you leaving the black housing on or do you cut it off?

[daviswalkers]

One issue I ran into with the R1 buy is that the sip sockets I normally use would not work with these as the holes for the LEDs were much thinner than normal, do you know if this has either:
1. Been resolved (not even sure it was brought up as a problem so not sure resolved is the right word)
or
2. Are there different sip sockets you know of that would work with them?

Thanks

What sip sockets did you use? I have never had a problem with my Zealios.

I forget who or where I was when I saw a post suggesting these http://www.ebay.com/itm/140910386490?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT but this is what I got.

I used the same dimension sip sockets and it worked fine for me, are you leaving the black housing on or do you cut it off?

I cut it off I thought maybe I was fat fingering them so I just tried using a pair of needle nose pliers and still can't get them to fit in.

I'm trying to use them on Leeku's CP gb (not that it matters anymore since my PCB is shot for some unknown reason) and am using the acrylic plate, which is a bit thicker than most plates I've used so that could be the issue rather than the switches themselves.

[Steezus]

One issue I ran into with the R1 buy is that the sip sockets I normally use would not work with these as the holes for the LEDs were much thinner than normal, do you know if this has either:
1. Been resolved (not even sure it was brought up as a problem so not sure resolved is the right word)
or
2. Are there different sip sockets you know of that would work with them?

Thanks

What sip sockets did you use? I have never had a problem with my Zealios.

I forget who or where I was when I saw a post suggesting these http://www.ebay.com/itm/140910386490?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT but this is what I got.

I used the same dimension sip sockets and it worked fine for me, are you leaving the black housing on or do you cut it off?

I cut it off I thought maybe I was fat fingering them so I just tried using a pair of needle nose pliers and still can't get them to fit in.

Hmm that's really odd, these were the ones that I was using http://www.ebay.com/itm/231568885581?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

The dimensions are listed the same as the ones you posted but if you want to save yourself the hassle of clipping them then Zeal's are the way to go.

[64rky]

In for some 67's, 65's, and 10 x 78's.

I plan on using only a few of the 78's for spacebar so if anyone plans on doing the same and doesn't want to order 10, PM me and can send you a few

PM incoming.

[Geroximo]

Cannot decide between 65g and 67g.
Can someone give me a Cherry MX reference to these weights?

[fowre]

Cannot decide between 65g and 67g.
Can someone give me a Cherry MX reference to these weights?

Browns and reds are around 60 to 62 gram springs. Blacks are around 80 gram springs. Gaterons are smoother than cherries so will feel a tad lighter. I'd say 65 and 67 would be a bit tough to distinguish between (don't have any though so that's just speculation) but both will be slightly heavier than browns, smoother, and with much more tactility. Personally ordered 60 of the 67 gram switches for my upcoming planck build and I'm super excited! (I got 60 because I've never soldered before and I think 13 extras is a safe bet  ))

[Zeal]

Is the chattering issue fixed?

The metal leaves have been adjusted a tiny bit to separate the gap a bit more to prevent them from touching when the pin is heating for too long.

Are these the SMD-compatible milky bottoms?

No. They will be regular milky white bottoms. Regular plate mounted switches still fit fine without issue on hot-swap-able keyboards.

in for some 67s! I kinda wanted 1x 78g one to use as a spacebar but I didn't want to make your life hard. Is it still possible to add one after ordering?

I can accommodate single switch orders for the spacebar, but would prefer to keep those to a minimum. It's mostly to prevent people from ordering an obscure amount of switches.

can I add 10 78g with my order of 90 67g?

Please PM/Email me for an order change. Orders will have to be cancelled and re-purchased.

I still cant't really decide on whether to get the milky bottom housing 65g or the standard 62g one. I know 62g ones will feel more or less like MX browns in terms of weight to bottom out but how do the 65g ones feel in comparison? And I'm also afraid of just being amateur in soldering and ruining the 62g switches, which are less resistant to heat than the 65g milky bottom ones.

65gs feel like they have a longer tactile bump for some reason. It's all in the mind though, since the tactile bumps are all the same. The 65g milky ones are offered for first time solderers that don't want to take a risk, but I've also had many people solder regular transparent zealios without issue.

Not offering stems sold separately?

No, unfortunately not. Placing the purple stem in a Cherry MX housing doesn't allow it to shine at its full potential, and that Gateron wouldn't be interested in selling stems only.

[lawlz_xD]

Hi Zeal,

I joined the White Fox GB with 65g Linear Zeals and just joined this GB for the 62g Purples.

What temperature would you recommend soldering each at? And any other tips for the more inexperienced solderers? Thanks!

[Zeal]

Hi Zeal,

I joined the White Fox GB with 65g Linear Zeals and just joined this GB for the 62g Purples.

What temperature would you recommend soldering each at? And any other tips for the more inexperienced solderers? Thanks!

Proper solder plays a big role too. Try to get your hands on some Kester 44 63/37 in either 0.02" or 0.031", or anything in between. 63/37 solder is eutectic which means that it goes from liquid state to solid really quickly, and no mushy stuff in between cooling periods.  My iron is always at 650°F with a 3-3.5mm chisel tip.

[StarPupil]

Looks good! Here's a few questions for you: How much is shipping to the US, and do you think that 160 of these would weigh enough to drive that price up? Thanks!

I'm pretty sure there is only one shipping that Zeal provides which is DHL Express(1 day shipping) for $15, unless it has changed since round 1 but I doubt it.

Thanks! I was just asking because sometimes weight is a factor, and I'm not sure how much it would affect the shipping.

[rainb1ood]

You're the man Zeal!

Ordered 150 more 65g for future use

[ika]

Aside from the chattering, what else is different between R1 and R2? The transparent plastic material for the top is the same, right? Is the wobbliness/wiggle of the stem affected at all? Have the measurements of any of the components changed? The way they lube the legs?