Not a fan of the glossy finish
Not a fan of the glossy finish
Yeah its probably not for everyone. And I assume they can do it without the finish as well ;-). They wanted to do something different.
I think it will work best with darker colors.
I hope they can offer more finishes. The thickness and height look good. I have 3 JTK cherry sets that are lovely so I know they can offer quality.
Do you have details on the sculpture? Is it exactly the same as SA but just lower, or is it something unique?
I hope they can offer more finishes. The thickness and height look good. I have 3 JTK cherry sets that are lovely so I know they can offer quality.
Do you have details on the sculpture? Is it exactly the same as SA but just lower, or is it something unique?
its VERY close to SA.
Check these renders for a side by side comparisonShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/t3l0lrF.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/BzZ1p7m.jpg)
Question about this HSA profile:
If from left to right is R1, R1, R2, R3, R4, R5
1. Is R3 = R5?
2. Is R4 = reversed R2?
3. Is the texture more of an imitation of SP SA or like MaxKey? Or something else?
Question about this HSA profile:
If from left to right is R1, R1, R2, R3, R4, R5
1. Is R3 = R5?
2. Is R4 = reversed R2?
3. Is the texture more of an imitation of SP SA or like MaxKey? Or something else?
The usual SA sculpt is 112343, and I'm assuming they've brought that across. I also believe r2 and r4 are the same but flipped, but could be wrong.
I'll let OP speak for the rest of course
this is a small detail and I'm not sure you would know, but what about skirt height? (I'm not totally sure what you would call it) The best way I can explain it is that my SA caps on some boards sit about .2mm above the case bezels. The same is true for GMK. DSA actually sit even higher, with a gap of about .5mm. BUT, MT3 caps have a longer skirt and the caps sit below the bezel. Any idea?
i am working on a set for this profile
I will probably organize the group buy next week. Stay tuned.
I'm hoping the key surface isn't wider than SA. That has been my gripe with other low spherical profiles.
BTW, I prefer smooth key sides. ABS offers more friction against the fingertips than PBT. That's why PBT needs to have textured top surfaces but ABS doesn't.
I'm hoping the key surface isn't wider than SA. That has been my gripe with other low spherical profiles.
BTW, I prefer smooth key sides. ABS offers more friction against the fingertips than PBT. That's why PBT needs to have textured top surfaces but ABS doesn't.
Beige on brown please!
People should read https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63052.0 before starting this kind of project.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/M8BcSkp.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/91dI4qM.png)
while technically correct this chart doesn't account for the short-SA profiles that have become more popular since it was madePopularity is not the point here.
but like says in the post: spherical angled
while technically correct this chart doesn't account for the short-SA profiles that have become more popular since it was madePopularity is not the point here.
but like says in the post: spherical angled
Just shortening SA keycaps still leaves an incorrect keycap profile which only properly functions as intended when attached to keyswitches with tilted stems. When stuck onto MX (or similar) switches with straight stems, the result is a degraded/corrupted experience.
The original designers of an SA-style keycap shape were experts at IBM and Honeywell in the 1960s who did serious ergonomics research. Their work was copied by everyone else in the industry, most of whom did not have the same level of understanding.
The proper way to adapt SA-type keycaps for straight-stemmed switches (irrespective of the height) is to systematically rotate the tops so that a proper “stairstep” pattern is maintained between the home row and the two rows above. For inspiration look at the spherical keycaps used on Alps switches in Canon typewriters of the early 1980s, or look at signature plastics’s SS or DSS profile (if someone made a copy of SP’s DSS profile – which is basically this HSA idea but done correctly, but for which the molds sadly no longer exist – that would be amazing). Or for that matter look at “cherry profile” or “alps profile” cylindrical caps, etc.
Using SA profile as-is or just reducing its height is a poor choice, ergonomically. It will slow down typing and reduce accuracy.
It’s great to bring back good ideas and a pretty aesthetic from the 60s–70s, but people should be examining the design from first principles and figuring out *why* the old idea worked that way, not just copying a corrupted variant of the superficial form without understanding.
...Didn't SP recently recommission their DSS profile? DSS Dolch (https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dss-dolch-keyset/)
(if someone made a copy of SP’s DSS profile – which is basically this HSA idea but done correctly, but for which the molds sadly no longer exist – that would be amazing).
Using SA profile as-is or just reducing its height is a poor choice, ergonomically. It will slow down typing and reduce accuracy.
while technically correct this chart doesn't account for the short-SA profiles that have become more popular since it was madePopularity is not the point here.
but like says in the post: spherical angled
Just shortening SA keycaps still leaves an incorrect keycap profile which only properly functions as intended when attached to keyswitches with tilted stems. When stuck onto MX (or similar) switches with straight stems, the result is a degraded/corrupted experience.
The original designers of an SA-style keycap shape were experts at IBM and Honeywell in the 1960s who did serious ergonomics research. Their work was copied by everyone else in the industry, most of whom did not have the same level of understanding.
The proper way to adapt SA-type keycaps for straight-stemmed switches (irrespective of the height) is to systematically rotate the tops so that a proper “stairstep” pattern is maintained between the home row and the two rows above. For inspiration look at the spherical keycaps used on Alps switches in Canon typewriters of the early 1980s, or look at signature plastics’s SS or DSS profile (if someone made a copy of SP’s DSS profile – which is basically this HSA idea but done correctly, but for which the molds sadly no longer exist – that would be amazing). Or for that matter look at “cherry profile” or “alps profile” cylindrical caps, etc.
Using SA profile as-is or just reducing its height is a poor choice, ergonomically. It will slow down typing and reduce accuracy.
It’s great to bring back good ideas and a pretty aesthetic from the 60s–70s, but people should be examining the design from first principles and figuring out *why* the old idea worked that way, not just copying a corrupted variant of the superficial form without understanding.
Didn't SP recently recommission their DSS profile? DSS Dolch (https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dss-dolch-keyset/)
Using SA profile as-is or just reducing its height is a poor choice, ergonomically. It will slow down typing and reduce accuracy.What will slow down typists depends on what the typists are used to ... and these days, I think many are used to flatter keyboards — for which a flatter keycap angle would be more natural.
some new samples.
some new samples.
It’s great to bring back good ideas and a pretty aesthetic from the 60s–70s, but people should be examining the design from first principles and figuring out *why* the old idea worked that way, not just copying a corrupted variant of the superficial form without understanding.
How can you go from not knowing something exists, to desparately wanting it, in the space of a couple of seconds?
Just wanted to ask - do they need to be that glossy?But why do that? It's just gonna shine anyway. Besides, most vintage keycaps of this form factor are shiny.
Could they be like satin smooth, like SP SA?
- ISO (Nor, De, Uk) keycaps are being molded for both CA and HSA.