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Offline duzeyao

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CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 01:45:52 »
Hey guys, some days ago I got a CMStorm's newest keyboard: Novatouch. After several days' experience I think I'm now ready to present you with this review. Novatouch, as many of you already know, is the first Japan capacitance switch keyboard (Well, we all know which brand it is >.<) that is compatible with Cherry MX stem keycaps. This keyboard, however, has brought me much more excitement than that. I have to say, despite its several minor cons, it is a great breakthrough for Japan capacitance keyboards and brings many new important features, like NKRO and media keys.



The first thing I like about Novatouch is its box. It's simple and elegant, well representing the spirit of the design of the keyboard imo. The box uses magnetic seal, making it very durable compared to normal keyboard boxes.







The accessories contain a manual, a wire keycap puller (No CM logo, even the on keycap puller lol), a mini – micro USB cable and two bags of o-rings.

As far as I can see, CM is a brand that values user feedbacks. CM was criticized that it put too many logos on the keyboard when first generation of CMQFR was released. They soon changed the design and made following batches of CMQFR and even other CM keyboards very clean of logos. The other thing GH community has always been complaining about is the rubber coating CM has been using. Novatouch uses an greatly improved housing (which is still rubber coating though lol, I personally wish they just use ABS housing like filco's). The keyboard is much more easier to clean now and has no problems with fingerprints. I don't know how much longer it will hold but for one week it's fine and much better than my previous CM keyboards (2 * CMQFR and 3* CMQFXT). Almost every detail of the keyboard is considered.






The price of the keyboard, however, is not cheap. It will be around the same price as Realforce 87U. Many may doubt if this very new keyboard is worth the money. So I concluded  some pros and cons from the infomation I got and these days' using experience.

1. The Purple Stems. First Japan capacitance switch that is compatible with MX stem keycaps. For Topre fans, changing novelty keycaps have always been a pain. What's more, the space bars of Realforce keyboards are made of ABS, making them less durable than other PBT caps. Now you can change the Novatouch keyboard with numerous keysets easily while experience the perfect typing experience provided by the famous Japan capacitance switch. I've tested multiple keysets and they are all working fine. Here's some pics.




Here are also some more pictures from a friend of mine, Zhao the Assman. He made various of keysets for Novatouch. Hope you enjoy it!











2. Another very important thing that is worth mentioning is the new stabilizers. As you may know, Realforce keyboards don't use stabilizers for long keys except spacebar. CM fixes this, bringing a totally new stabilizer to Novatouch. Typing on these new stabilizers is perfect experience, because it is EXTREMELY quiet and very well maitains the type feeling almost the same as short keys. However, the spacebar is slightly heavier than other long keys, thanks to an additional spring.

3. The first capacitance keyboard that supports NKRO, media keys, win lock, acceleration rate. To be honest I don't need any of these features but I have to admit there's many people that need them. As a TKL keyboard Novatouch can satisfy most people's needs.

4. The PCB and stems are all made in Japan, making sure the build quality of the keyboard is good. But still, it's a new product, we need time to see if it is actually solid.

Nothing is perfect, I still find some cons of the keyboard:

1. No indicator for caps lock and scroll lock. They removed it for the retail version. I don't know why but personally can't agree with the decision.

2. ABS keycaps.

3. 45g version only. But I heard CM is working on 55g version and more.

4. Price is relatively high.


Conclusion:

CMStorm Novatouch is a great keyboard bringing many features that is never seen in keyboard history. It is highly recommended If you are a capacitance keyboard lover, having no problem with no indicator lights and your wallet. Hope you enjoy my review. Any feedback will be appreciated. :P


New Update:

Some more pictures.
According to CM Taiwan, the retail version of Novatouch uses UV coating, not rubber coating. Cheers!
« Last Edit: Sun, 27 July 2014, 03:23:53 by duzeyao »
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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 02:04:59 »
4. The PCB and stems are all made in Japan, making sure the build quality of the keyboard is good. But still, it's a new product, we need time to see if it is actually solid.

This is the MOST important feature of this keyboard, the essential basics is still made in Japan which is looking very brilliant thus far.

Have already set aside the moolah for this keyboard which will now lay in front of the REALFORCEs because they can never be fully customized.  Now we finally have a real Thorpie made for customization without being shafted for ridiculous prices by grubby sales-turds (they know who they are)  :thumb: .

Thanks for this early review buddy.

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« Reply #2 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 02:09:58 »
Thanks for that!  A lot of people been waiting for a real review.

As for your cons, and ABS keycaps is unlikely to be a problem - I imagine most people would change the keycaps almost as soon as they got the keyboard.  That's why we're buying a Novatouch instead of a RealForce, right?

I have also heard rumours of a 55g version - apparently CM wanted to see how well the 45g version would be released first, and if it was good then to produce the 55g version.  Which is a little sad, as it would be a 55g Novatouch that I would most like.

The price is a bit of a surprise.  Most people estimated between $150 and $200, hoping that it would be towards the lower end of the scale.  But being nearly double the bottom end of that scale might be a deterrent for some people.
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 02:35:17 »
Thanks for your detailed review!

I am waiting for the 55g version though :)

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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 02:39:09 »
That sucks big time about the rubber coating  :mad:

Do you happen to know if they are going to be making a grey case version?
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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 02:42:46 »
Oh dear lord I can't wait to get my hands on one of these. Topre and SA profile keycaps? Hell yes.

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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 02:48:53 »
I think CM is making a big mistake by pricing it so high... why would general consumer spend that much for a keyboard when they can just grab something like Quickfire for 100 bucks? If they are aiming to sell these towards crowd like us it will be fine but if this is their "attempt" to introduce Topre switch to the general cosumers, I think they are taking a wrong turn... but then again, what do I know about marketing and selling products? I guess only time will tell. By the way thanks for you great review!

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« Reply #7 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 03:08:25 »
My impression is that it's targeted toward gamers/hard core PC users/existing CM customers in other segments. These types of users can probably be convinced to buy such a keyboard. I don't think it's aimed at the mass market, e.g. the typical Best Buy shopper. Society is not advanced enough for that yet... ;)
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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 03:19:03 »
Thanks for that!  A lot of people been waiting for a real review.

As for your cons, and ABS keycaps is unlikely to be a problem - I imagine most people would change the keycaps almost as soon as they got the keyboard.  That's why we're buying a Novatouch instead of a RealForce, right?

I have also heard rumours of a 55g version - apparently CM wanted to see how well the 45g version would be released first, and if it was good then to produce the 55g version.  Which is a little sad, as it would be a 55g Novatouch that I would most like.

The price is a bit of a surprise.  Most people estimated between $150 and $200, hoping that it would be towards the lower end of the scale.  But being nearly double the bottom end of that scale might be a deterrent for some people.


The world-wide price is still not revealed. In China it's 220$ though.
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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 03:21:48 »
That sucks big time about the rubber coating  :mad:

Do you happen to know if they are going to be making a grey case version?

The retail version will be UV coating. Apparently CM listened to our QQs lol.
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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 03:23:12 »
Any info to report about the release date?
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« Reply #11 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 03:25:32 »
Any info to report about the release date?

The mass production of the retail version began at 23th July. I assume it will be on VERY soon.
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« Reply #12 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 03:26:36 »
The "made in Japan" bit probably adds to the price.

If the whole things were made in China or Taiwan it would probably be a bit cheaper.
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 03:36:48 »
The "made in Japan" bit probably adds to the price.

If the whole things were made in China or Taiwan it would probably be a bit cheaper.

The label of the keyboard says MIC.  I guess they produce PCB and switches in Japan, Case keycaps etc in China and assemble it in China.
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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 03:37:25 »
That sucks big time about the rubber coating  :mad:

Do you happen to know if they are going to be making a grey case version?

The retail version will be UV coating. Apparently CM listened to our QQs lol.

Oh thank god  :thumb:
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« Reply #15 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 03:38:45 »
The "made in Japan" bit probably adds to the price.

If the whole things were made in China or Taiwan it would probably be a bit cheaper.

The label of the keyboard says MIC.  I guess they produce PCB and switches in Japan, Case keycaps etc in China and assemble it in China.

Then it could be a premium on the Topre-specific parts (PCB, domes, etc.).
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 03:50:02 »
That sucks big time about the rubber coating  :mad:

Do you happen to know if they are going to be making a grey case version?

The retail version will be UV coating. Apparently CM listened to our QQs lol.

Have you heard anything about them making a grey case version? 

I saw this picture on DT, but i'm not sure if this just looks grey because of the lighting.

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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 03:52:49 »
That sucks big time about the rubber coating  :mad:

Do you happen to know if they are going to be making a grey case version?

The retail version will be UV coating. Apparently CM listened to our QQs lol.

Have you heard anything about them making a grey case version? 

I saw this picture on DT, but i'm not sure if this just looks grey because of the lighting.

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They are not making grey case yet. It's the lighting. :D
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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 04:32:48 »
Great review and pics! Thanks a lot.

Good news on the case coating too. Fingers crossed for 55g..
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« Reply #19 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 04:50:34 »
The insider's POV!!

Thank you for the review. Interesting stabilizers


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« Reply #20 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 04:53:44 »
The insider's POV!!

Thank you for the review. Interesting stabilizers

Much appreciated, but I'm not insider actually.  :p
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« Reply #21 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 05:04:33 »
The insider's POV!!

Thank you for the review. Interesting stabilizers

Much appreciated, but I'm not insider actually.  :p
CMStorm held an activity and rewarded me with this for coming up with its Chinese name.

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« Reply #22 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 05:09:42 »
The insider's POV!!

Thank you for the review. Interesting stabilizers

Much appreciated, but I'm not insider actually.  :p
CMStorm held an activity and rewarded me with this for coming up with its Chinese name.

Well done - congratulations :D
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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 08:57:10 »
excellent post! thanks

btw what keycaps are those with the red to black fade? very cool

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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 09:09:35 »
Nice review, great pics.

Funny that it comes with two sets of o-rings. They could have cut that crap out as well as gone easier on the packaging and made it a bit cheaper.
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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 09:12:20 »
If there is a 55g version I might buy that...
I have heard great things, but I personally have never owned a topre.
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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 09:18:31 »
At $140-$170 this was tempting; at $200+ um no...

For someone who is not a keycap zombie (blasphemy, etc.) this doesn't offer me an experience that I don't already get from my Type Heaven/660C.

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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 16:51:05 »
At $140-$170 this was tempting; at $200+ um no...

For someone who is not a keycap zombie (blasphemy, etc.) this doesn't offer me an experience that I don't already get from my Type Heaven/660C.

I'm in the same boat as you, not being a "keycap zombie" either (I own no sets).

However, this is still a no-brainer buy for anyone who spends $100+ on keycap sets on the regular.
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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 16:58:24 »
I'm curious about those stabilizers, there are no stems? How do they work?

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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 17:03:59 »
CMStorm held an activity and rewarded me with this for coming up with its Chinese name.

What's the Chinese name?

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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 18:54:16 »
re: key weights, i fondled this keyboard pretty inappropriately at keycon and my first impression was that it was much closer to 55g than 45g. i use my 55g 10AE day in and out and the key weights just didn't feel that different from my daily. i don't know if this is because the new slider tooling is particulately precise or because it's a solid mat or what, but i am a 55g stalwart and i loved the feel of the board.

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« Reply #31 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 18:57:38 »
I. Am. So. Excited.

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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #32 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 19:05:29 »
I'm curious about those stabilizers, there are no stems? How do they work?
The stabilizers are attached to the stems, which means when you push a stabilizer down, the stem will also go down.


CMStorm held an activity and rewarded me with this for coming up with its Chinese name.

What's the Chinese name?

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re: key weights, i fondled this keyboard pretty inappropriately at keycon and my first impression was that it was much closer to 55g than 45g. i use my 55g 10AE day in and out and the key weights just didn't feel that different from my daily. i don't know if this is because the new slider tooling is particulately precise or because it's a solid mat or what, but i am a 55g stalwart and i loved the feel of the board.

I guess it is because CM put a spring on spacebar, making typing slightly heavier.

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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #33 on: Sun, 27 July 2014, 19:08:40 »
The stabilizers are attached to the stems, which means when you push a stabilizer down, the stem will also go down.

ah k, thx.


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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #34 on: Mon, 28 July 2014, 09:24:18 »
It would be so cool if the PCB was able to fit into this case. Unfortunately the layout of the PCB looks different from qfr/filco :(
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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #35 on: Mon, 28 July 2014, 09:58:46 »
It would be so cool if the PCB was able to fit into this case. Unfortunately the layout of the PCB looks different from qfr/filco :(

Your feeling is true. The PCB can't fit into any known custom cases.  :eek:
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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #36 on: Mon, 28 July 2014, 10:11:30 »
It would be so cool if the PCB was able to fit into this case. Unfortunately the layout of the PCB looks different from qfr/filco :(

Your feeling is true. The PCB can't fit into any known custom cases.  :eek:
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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #37 on: Mon, 28 July 2014, 10:33:20 »
re: key weights, i fondled this keyboard pretty inappropriately at keycon and my first impression was that it was much closer to 55g than 45g. i use my 55g 10AE day in and out and the key weights just didn't feel that different from my daily. i don't know if this is because the new slider tooling is particulately precise or because it's a solid mat or what, but i am a 55g stalwart and i loved the feel of the board.
Good to know. Thanks for that piece of info. I own neither but preferred 55 when I tried them side by side.

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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #38 on: Mon, 28 July 2014, 17:15:57 »
Looks like I might sell my duck mini after all.

Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #39 on: Mon, 28 July 2014, 17:21:49 »
duzeyao, did your buddy Zhao the Assman "assemble" those keysets, or did he actually make the keys himself? Those keys are absolutely gorgeous, and I'd love to know where to get them if they're sold somewhere.

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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #40 on: Mon, 28 July 2014, 17:36:43 »
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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #41 on: Mon, 28 July 2014, 20:12:41 »
I think CM is making a big mistake by pricing it so high... why would general consumer spend that much for a keyboard when they can just grab something like Quickfire for 100 bucks? If they are aiming to sell these towards crowd like us it will be fine but if this is their "attempt" to introduce Topre switch to the general cosumers, I think they are taking a wrong turn... but then again, what do I know about marketing and selling products? I guess only time will tell. By the way thanks for you great review!


This is a premium product and not aimed towards the general consumer.  Think of it as the high end Swiss watch of keyboards.  The Cherry keycaps freaks that also like Topre will snap this up.
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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #42 on: Mon, 28 July 2014, 20:36:09 »
duzeyao, did your buddy Zhao the Assman "assemble" those keysets, or did he actually make the keys himself? Those keys are absolutely gorgeous, and I'd love to know where to get them if they're sold somewhere.

He bought white PBT blank keycaps (of Cherry profile) from a Chinese factory and dyed them into various of colors. It is sold in Taobao for around 45¥. I can give you the Taobao link if you want.
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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #43 on: Mon, 28 July 2014, 20:44:19 »
I will make one of these fit into an aluminum case.  I will not rest.

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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #44 on: Mon, 28 July 2014, 21:14:55 »
This is a premium product and not aimed towards the general consumer.  Think of it as the high end Swiss watch of keyboards.  The Cherry keycaps freaks that also like Topre will snap this up.

If this was a swiss watch look to be paying anywhere around $2100 to $21000 (on average).

This keyboard would be great in a brand new aluminum case (altogether) worth around $800.00USD  8) .

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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #45 on: Mon, 28 July 2014, 21:34:36 »
I will make one of these fit into an aluminum case.  I will not rest.

I hope someone does.    That way I can know what kind to get  :)
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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #46 on: Mon, 28 July 2014, 22:38:20 »
I'm betting to do it, the board will need to be modified.  Specifically, the micro usb port.  Probably will have to remove it completely and hard wire something in to redirect it to a different location. 

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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #47 on: Mon, 28 July 2014, 23:56:19 »
Thank you for this review! Answers many questions I had, and confirmed some things.

Looks like the keyboard will be overall pretty damn awesome though.


Oh dear lord I can't wait to get my hands on one of these. Topre and SA profile keycaps? Hell yes.

This x100. Also, 55g.
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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
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Re: CMStorm Novatouch Unbox and Review
« Reply #49 on: Thu, 31 July 2014, 21:19:41 »
Was thinking about waiting for the 55g but wtf: I'll bite. even though the lack of leds is a real head-scratcher.


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