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[GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri (Closed)
« on: Thu, 03 October 2019, 08:21:54 »
Welcome to SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri Group Buy

Several people asked me this to happen. So here we go! ;)


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Current MOQ stats.


SP SA Yuri

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Cosmos

Dual Cosmos

Modifiers kit

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Numpad kit

Ergodox kit

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 03 October 2019, 08:47:51 »
Woohoo Alps!  Let's hit that MOQ baby.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 03 October 2019, 09:38:44 »
Yowza.  $190 for the ALPS set is steeeeep..

Understandable. But steeeeep.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 03 October 2019, 09:58:14 »
Yowza.  $190 for the ALPS set is steeeeep..

Understandable. But steeeeep.
That is why I took the MX route eons ago. Alps is a zombie. Even if you love it, a corpse should be left alone to rest in peace.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 03 October 2019, 10:22:35 »
Ordered. Always big fan of your work Tom. Thanks for another great set!

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 03 October 2019, 11:17:32 »
finally :cool:

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 03 October 2019, 11:19:52 »
First page has been updated with Renders by Oblotzky.

One important note to people who think they wait for lower pricing. It will not get lower if you don't join. This is how it works. It gets lower only if more people join. Those who think they will be able to snag kits on a recap should keep in mind the 20% increase in cost  and competing against other buyers on a limited amount of kits. GMK Carbon R2 left others in the last recap is a very good example for this.

Ordered. Always big fan of your work Tom. Thanks for another great set!

Thanks! I always appreciate your support ;)

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 03 October 2019, 11:50:26 »
Yowza.  $190 for the ALPS set is steeeeep..

Understandable. But steeeeep.

It drop to $130 at 200 kits though

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 03 October 2019, 11:52:24 »
Ordered the ALPS set :)

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 03 October 2019, 11:53:16 »
Yowza.  $190 for the ALPS set is steeeeep..

Understandable. But steeeeep.

Given the zero competition, it's a price I'll gladly pay. We need more ALPS sets and they'll only happen if people buy them.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 03 October 2019, 12:50:09 »
I'm in for the alps, I'm hoping it hits 130$ but really I will be happy at 100 orders.

Kinda annoying that Drop still hasn't put in the option for APO address even though they offer APO shipping.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 03 October 2019, 18:18:46 »
Yowza.  $190 for the ALPS set is steeeeep..

Understandable. But steeeeep.

It drop to $130 at 200 kits though


I guess we'll figure out how big the market is for ALPS..

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 11:51:15 »
There's been some discussion on massdrop regarding a proper Cyrillic F-row kit being added. Can you comment on likelihood and potential timing? Thanks.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 12:21:17 »
Yowza.  $190 for the ALPS set is steeeeep..

Understandable. But steeeeep.

It drop to $130 at 200 kits though


I guess we'll figure out how big the market is for ALPS..

Unless something has changed, Signature Plastic's molds for ALPS mount is terrible. They're too big to fit in Matias switch sliders (Not sure about vintages ALPS) unless the stems are filed down, and the stems themselves very easily snap off the keycaps; at least on DSA keycaps, that is.
Maybe they're waiting for gasmasks and latex to get sexy again.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 12:53:53 »
Current MOQ stats.


There's been some discussion on massdrop regarding a proper Cyrillic F-row kit being added. Can you comment on likelihood and potential timing? Thanks.

Looking at the current sale stats - it would not be feasible to add another kit. So there will be definitely no Cyrillic f-row kit.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 13:07:46 »
Yowza.  $190 for the ALPS set is steeeeep..

Understandable. But steeeeep.

It drop to $130 at 200 kits though


I guess we'll figure out how big the market is for ALPS..

Unless something has changed, Signature Plastic's molds for ALPS mount is terrible. They're too big to fit in Matias switch sliders (Not sure about vintages ALPS) unless the stems are filed down, and the stems themselves very easily snap off the keycaps; at least on DSA keycaps, that is.

I have SP ALPS throwback and they fit OG ALPS switches just fine, the only issue I hear is with the spacebar shrinking and being a tight fit.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 13:31:32 »
I have SP ALPS throwback and they fit OG ALPS switches just fine, the only issue I hear is with the spacebar shrinking and being a tight fit.

Yup, by all accounts SP DCS is much better for ALPS than DSA.

Tbh, I'll take anything, it's impossible to get ISO ALPS keycaps with a modern layout.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 06 October 2019, 15:47:37 »
I got a custom pressing of DSA PBT alps caps somewhat recently and I can attest to the fact that they're a bit snug in Matias switches (and fine in Alps).  There's definitely some issues with the bottom of the posts mushrooming a little bit. Shaving just a little bit of plastic at the edges did help a great deal.  I confirmed with an engineer at Matias that the posts are actually not long enough to bottom out given the dimensions that SP gave for the posts.

This set is very nice looking. Hoping you hit MOQ.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 06 October 2019, 21:23:22 »
Yowza.  $190 for the ALPS set is steeeeep..

Understandable. But steeeeep.
That is why I took the MX route eons ago. Alps is a zombie. Even if you love it, a corpse should be left alone to rest in peace.

What do you mean? If you wanted the SA Yuri MX equivalent (Alphas, Mods, Novelties, ISO), it would cost you $65 more than the DCS Alps Kit. Granted, you will get a much better selection of novelties and wider support for ISO.
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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 07 October 2019, 19:25:50 »
Looks like there is an update to the ALPS MOQ, it was raised to 200. This is scary for us that were willing to pay the 180$ but I hope we can hit this goal.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 07 October 2019, 19:52:41 »
Looks like there is an update to the ALPS MOQ, it was raised to 200. This is scary for us that were willing to pay the 180$ but I hope we can hit this goal.

Well, the price significantly dropped to $130 ($148.39 total with tax & shipping for me now, down from just about $200 before) with the change to a 200 MOQ so there is that at least, but I concur, gonna be a tight MOQ to meet considering how niche ALPS are in our already niche hobby. Would've definitely preferred the $180 starting price with a 100 set MOQ option staying, but who knows this may be SP's decision to change the MOQ not T0mb3ry's.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 07 October 2019, 20:22:32 »
With these kind of GBs do we usually see a consistent amount of people join throughout the GB or is it more of a inverce bell curve? I imagine the majority of people join in the first and last few days.

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« Reply #23 on: Mon, 07 October 2019, 21:22:26 »
With these kind of GBs do we usually see a consistent amount of people join throughout the GB or is it more of a inverse bell curve? I imagine the majority of people join in the first and last few days.

Pretty much like you are thinking with most joining in the last few weeks from what I have seen on previous keycap GBs.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 08 October 2019, 00:40:47 »
Looks like there is an update to the ALPS MOQ, it was raised to 200. This is scary for us that were willing to pay the 180$ but I hope we can hit this goal.

Well, the price significantly dropped to $130 ($148.39 total with tax & shipping for me now, down from just about $200 before) with the change to a 200 MOQ so there is that at least, but I concur, gonna be a tight MOQ to meet considering how niche ALPS are in our already niche hobby. Would've definitely preferred the $180 starting price with a 100 set MOQ option staying, but who knows this may be SP's decision to change the MOQ not T0mb3ry's.

Yikes, fingers crossed it hits 200 then.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 08 October 2019, 01:37:28 »
Will join ALPS Yuri. Welp if it barely makes it you can probably resell it for the the same price or even higher when you don't need it anymore.
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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 08 October 2019, 17:43:02 »
Looks like there is an update to the ALPS MOQ, it was raised to 200.

RIP Alps Yuri :(  Thank you for trying T0mb3ry.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 08 October 2019, 18:16:33 »
Looks like there is an update to the ALPS MOQ, it was raised to 200.

RIP Alps Yuri :(  Thank you for trying T0mb3ry.

I wouldn't give up yet, theres still alot of time left.

Also thanks for posting the DXF file for your ALPS clueboard build, it made building mine so much easier.  :)

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 08 October 2019, 18:52:15 »
I will literally buy 3 sets of ALPS Yuri if that helps it meet MOQ

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 08 October 2019, 19:09:31 »
Also thanks for posting the DXF file for your ALPS clueboard build, it made building mine so much easier.  :)

You're welcome!  I'm glad you found it useful.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 08 October 2019, 19:12:49 »
only if it had orange space bars for DCS set...  :'( I will still have to think about it

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 01:30:42 »
Hoping a bit of promotion helps this, the original r/mechanicalkeyboards post didn't really get much traction

https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/dfd0h8/gb_dcs_alps_price_drops_to_120_moq_200_love_alps/?ref=share&ref_source=link

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« Reply #33 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 02:58:18 »
I'm in for the alps, I'm hoping it hits 130$ but really I will be happy at 100 orders.

Kinda annoying that Drop still hasn't put in the option for APO address even though they offer APO shipping.
You can press F12 and change any state to whatever you want in the page code and it will let you save it.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 03:04:15 »
Hoping a bit of promotion helps this, the original r/mechanicalkeyboards post didn't really get much traction

https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/dfd0h8/gb_dcs_alps_price_drops_to_120_moq_200_love_alps/?ref=share&ref_source=link

Looks like you made a typo on the price, It should be 130$ at 200 MOQ.

I'm in for the alps, I'm hoping it hits 130$ but really I will be happy at 100 orders.

Kinda annoying that Drop still hasn't put in the option for APO address even though they offer APO shipping.
You can press F12 and change any state to whatever you want in the page code and it will let you save it.

Well that is a lifesaver, thank you so much.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #35 on: Thu, 10 October 2019, 04:25:09 »
Well most here seem focusing on the Apls, I am entering this business late enough to just like the dark blue and Russian letters.
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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #36 on: Thu, 10 October 2019, 18:04:35 »


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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #37 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 08:49:56 »
Alps seems promising, just gotta promote the hell out of it! Fingers crossed there’s a surge near the end too.

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« Reply #38 on: Mon, 14 October 2019, 18:44:37 »


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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #39 on: Tue, 15 October 2019, 23:38:54 »
Looks like we had a large jump in DCS sales, if it keeps this pace we might see it hit MOQ. Crossing my fingers.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #40 on: Fri, 18 October 2019, 15:56:47 »
MOQ/price sheet has been updated in the first post.

Posting also the graphs from Dvorcol.


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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #41 on: Sat, 19 October 2019, 02:41:47 »
I'm surprised it's going so slow... I was hoping for some price drops :) But I'm sure there will be a jump at the end.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #42 on: Sun, 20 October 2019, 06:14:45 »
I'm surprised it's going so slow... I was hoping for some price drops :) But I'm sure there will be a jump at the end.

Sadly i'm not suprised.

It's a combination of pricing and people not liking Russia at the moment. The Drop comments are toxic af.

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« Reply #43 on: Sun, 20 October 2019, 06:21:19 »
I am not surprised too, after seeing the price they set.

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« Reply #44 on: Sun, 20 October 2019, 06:29:42 »
I am not surprised too, after seeing the price they set.
Yeah, the prices are steep. Also, for ortho I'm having to order a $40 spacekeys kit - for one 2u spacebar

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #45 on: Sun, 20 October 2019, 10:47:52 »
Tryna cut down my SA intake... but can't pass on that DCS ALPS!

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #46 on: Sun, 20 October 2019, 16:15:21 »
+1 for the steep prices. I wanted SO BAD to get SA Yuri all in cyrillics and some child kits, but that plus DCS was above $500. It was hard, but I had to pass on SA.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #47 on: Sun, 20 October 2019, 16:35:13 »
+1 for the steep prices. I wanted SO BAD to get SA Yuri all in cyrillics and some child kits, but that plus DCS was above $500. It was hard, but I had to pass on SA.
Same here, I'm in for the DCS ALPS mount set over SA to. While I absolutely love SA, I can't pass the opportunity to get in on a ALPS mount set in the Yuri colorway. Hell I would've jumped on the ALPS mount over SA even if it was DSA (my least favorite profile) instead of DCS. Although hopefully they'll let us know if the DCS set isn't gonna make MOQ before the drop closes, cause in that case I will switch my order over to a SA set.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #48 on: Sun, 20 October 2019, 16:54:12 »
+1 for the steep prices. I wanted SO BAD to get SA Yuri all in cyrillics and some child kits, but that plus DCS was above $500. It was hard, but I had to pass on SA.
Same here, I'm in for the DCS ALPS mount set over SA to. While I absolutely love SA, I can't pass the opportunity to get in on a ALPS mount set in the Yuri colorway. Hell I would've jumped on the ALPS mount over SA even if it was DSA (my least favorite profile) instead of DCS. Although hopefully they'll let us know if the DCS set isn't make MOQ before the drop closes, cause in that case I will switch my order over to a SA set.



I seriously doubt Drop will let you know anything before it closes. They have never done that in the past.

I'm also trying to figure out what to do and I think I'm going to go ahead and place an order for everything that I could possibly want and then also include something that has no chance to make MOQ or be produced (ergodox seems like a good candidate). By including something that won't hit MOQ then we should have the opportunity to edit the order before it is placed. I've never done this before but my understanding is that is how it should work. Also, I don't believe that you can add things to your order after it ends, only cancel. For example, if you were trying to cover a 96 key board, and numpad doesn't get made, you would have the opportunity to also cancel base + mods, but you couldn't at that point, switch over to the ALPS kit or switch to filling a 40%.

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Re: [GB] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #49 on: Sun, 20 October 2019, 17:50:56 »
+1 for the steep prices. I wanted SO BAD to get SA Yuri all in cyrillics and some child kits, but that plus DCS was above $500. It was hard, but I had to pass on SA.
Same here, I'm in for the DCS ALPS mount set over SA to. While I absolutely love SA, I can't pass the opportunity to get in on a ALPS mount set in the Yuri colorway. Hell I would've jumped on the ALPS mount over SA even if it was DSA (my least favorite profile) instead of DCS. Although hopefully they'll let us know if the DCS set isn't make MOQ before the drop closes, cause in that case I will switch my order over to a SA set.



I seriously doubt Drop will let you know anything before it closes. They have never done that in the past.

I'm also trying to figure out what to do and I think I'm going to go ahead and place an order for everything that I could possibly want and then also include something that has no chance to make MOQ or be produced (ergodox seems like a good candidate). By including something that won't hit MOQ then we should have the opportunity to edit the order before it is placed. I've never done this before but my understanding is that is how it should work. Also, I don't believe that you can add things to your order after it ends, only cancel. For example, if you were trying to cover a 96 key board, and numpad doesn't get made, you would have the opportunity to also cancel base + mods, but you couldn't at that point, switch over to the ALPS kit or switch to filling a 40%.

I've asked about editing the remainder of your order, but unfortunately it's not an option.  You'll be offered two choices: keep the remainder of your order, or cancel everything.