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Offline Cony_WANG

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[IC] GMK Dolch
« on: Mon, 06 June 2016, 23:14:11 »
[/spoiler]Introduction

I think I do not need to say anything about the dolch keyset, since it is a very classical keyset. I found that the last group buy of Dolch is in 2014 and many people are dreaming of owning their own Dolch set, so I want to reopen this group buy.

Supported layouts

BASE KIT:
- ANSI 104/87/60
- Winkeyless
 MOD SET:
-1800 (with 6u space)
-ISO
-75%
Possible Changes

If enough people are requesting the ISO/1800 keys, a mod set with ISO, 1800 keys ( 6U spacebar included) can be added.

Price

TBD

Final notes

I want to run this group buy on Massdrop and I am still contacting Massdrop. And I am not very familiar with the process of running the group buy on Massdrop and I will be grateful if some one can help me to contact Massdrop and run this group buy successfully.

I do not want to change the base kit anymore. Other keys, such as cyan mod keys, may be included in the mod set or a new child kit.

Group buy:

A group buy whose layout is similar to my base kit is being run by Chinese vendor, zFrontier. If you are interested in it, you can join it through Wechat (a Chinese instant message application). You can search the official account: zFrontier_China and join the group buy.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 06 June 2016, 23:34:10 »
good , any possibility to add any more cyan mod including ISO ,1800 and 75%?

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 06 June 2016, 23:34:54 »
1800 please.  ;D

Offline Cony_WANG

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 06 June 2016, 23:36:05 »
good , any possibility to add any more cyan mod including ISO ,1800 and 75%?

If enough people are requesting these keys

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 06 June 2016, 23:44:29 »
Any chance of running the color pack that was in Ivan's buy? I'd prefer if it were a child kit since I bought the main set but missed the color pack.

It had these keys
http://i.imgur.com/RUVBOgR.jpg

Or maybe the cyan kit child kit that was on MechSupply. Would be in for that too. Unforunately I can't find the render
« Last Edit: Mon, 06 June 2016, 23:50:21 by honeynugget »

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 06 June 2016, 23:46:19 »
If this goes through, I'd definitely be interested.

I'm new to this hobby and never got a chance to grab hold of this (Originative's got sold out before I managed to grab em')

+1 for the color pack that was in Ivan's GB

Offline Cony_WANG

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 06 June 2016, 23:54:58 »
Any chance of running the color pack that was in Ivan's buy? I'd prefer if it were a child kit since I bought the main set but missed the color pack.

It had these keys
http://i.imgur.com/RUVBOgR.jpg

Or maybe the cyan kit child kit that was on MechSupply. Would be in for that too. Unforunately I can't find the render
If this goes through, I'd definitely be interested.

I'm new to this hobby and never got a chance to grab hold of this (Originative's got sold out before I managed to grab em')

+1 for the color pack that was in Ivan's GB

Since I want to lower the price, so maybe only some Cyan base mod keys will be added to the mod set.

Offline nickysan92

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 00:09:51 »
Any chance of running the color pack that was in Ivan's buy? I'd prefer if it were a child kit since I bought the main set but missed the color pack.

It had these keys
http://i.imgur.com/RUVBOgR.jpg

Or maybe the cyan kit child kit that was on MechSupply. Would be in for that too. Unforunately I can't find the render
If this goes through, I'd definitely be interested.

I'm new to this hobby and never got a chance to grab hold of this (Originative's got sold out before I managed to grab em')

+1 for the color pack that was in Ivan's GB

Since I want to lower the price, so maybe only some Cyan base mod keys will be added to the mod set.

Perhaps we can have a poll to decide which Cyan mod keys should be included?

Admittedly, I'm only interested in the:

Cyan Esc
Cyan Enter
Cyan-colored Win10 legend

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 00:15:26 »
It would be the ultimate Dolch set if you could get the actual teal-green that's on the Dolch logo for the modifiers.

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« Last Edit: Tue, 07 June 2016, 00:20:41 by ThoughtArtist »

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 00:45:11 »
In advance, Thank your GB!!

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 01:47:52 »
D O L C H . I'm in bro.  ;D ;D

Offline Cony_WANG

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 02:38:14 »
It would be the ultimate Dolch set if you could get the actual teal-green that's on the Dolch logo for the modifiers.

(Attachment Link)

That's why I add some keys with TU2 color (cyan).

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 03:46:07 »
may include 6U spacebar
Last I heard, GMK broke their 6u mold and they don't have plans to buy another, this might have been changed.

The set is really cool, I guess ISO support (Enter and Left Shift) should be offered.

I'd also dare to suggest to turn the 7u bottom row to R5.
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Offline Cony_WANG

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 03:53:25 »
may include 6U spacebar
Last I heard, GMK broke their 6u mold and they don't have plans to buy another, this might have been changed.

The set is really cool, I guess ISO support (Enter and Left Shift) should be offered.

I'd also dare to suggest to turn the 7u bottom row to R5.

Yep, I heard that GMK now have 6u mold again and I have asked GMK whether 6u space is available. And the ISO may be provided in mod set. If the 7u row is changed to R5, more keys may be needed, such as the R5 arrow keys and 0 key. So I have no plan to add the R5 keys.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 03:54:48 »
If the 7u row is changed to R5, more keys may be needed, such as the R5 arrow keys and 0 key.
Right, I forgot that. I'm not used to 100% layouts anymore.
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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 05:21:01 »
Yes! GMK Dolch with proper legends at last! I'm definitely in.
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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 05:22:05 »
Dolch is really classic. Great to see it happens again.
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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 05:31:58 »
Might join!

My standard request for windows 95 logo instead of the newer one.

Offline effectiveduck

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 05:47:23 »
6u spacebar? I thought the mold was lost or broken, or have they made a new one?

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 05:55:06 »
I beg you to add:

A long right ANSI shift, so OG Dolch can be used on modern keyboards.

6.25 standard spacebar to be bought separately as a "spacebar kit"

Basically I really want a moogle / adaptor kit to be made along with this.
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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 05:55:56 »
My standard request for windows 95 logo instead of the newer one.
+1 Also, my standard request for A-profile 1.5 bottom row, although I know it'll never happen :(
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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 06:00:40 »
What a pity the Dolch set doesn't support its original layout.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 06:02:24 »
What a pity the Dolch set doesn't support its original layout.

Never mind. I did not noticed the child kit. I am dumb.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 06:15:48 »
A long right ANSI shift, so OG Dolch can be used on modern keyboards.
What's different with the current 2.75 shift in there?

Offline Cony_WANG

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 06:20:52 »
6u spacebar? I thought the mold was lost or broken, or have they made a new one?
They will make a new one and 6u space will be available on July.

Offline Cony_WANG

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 06:25:15 »
A long right ANSI shift, so OG Dolch can be used on modern keyboards.
What's different with the current 2.75 shift in there?

I think he wants an extra 2.75shift to support his own dolch sets.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 06:26:39 »
What a pity the Dolch set doesn't support its original layout.

Never mind. I did not noticed the child kit. I am dumb.
I think the most exciting thing is that we can get a 6u space by GMK.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 06:38:34 »
6u spacebar? I thought the mold was lost or broken, or have they made a new one?
They will make a new one and 6u space will be available on July.

Will a center stem be added? The reason I ask is a center stem would allow, with the advent of additional sliders, topre boards to use them as well as a few boards from razer and cm which use 6u spacebars.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 06:43:54 »
looking good.

Would be great if we could get alt Gr and the 3+4 key for UK ISO :)
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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 06:45:47 »
I think the most exciting thing is that we can get a 6u space by GMK.

For sure? GMK has promised you for that?

Offline Cony_WANG

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 06:59:53 »
I think the most exciting thing is that we can get a 6u space by GMK.

For sure? GMK has promised you for that?
Of course, that's why they provide me the render with 6u spacebar.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #31 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 07:05:45 »
GMK Dolch in the wild...



I like this set enough to potentially buy it again, given the right options.  The one sold on Massdrop (Originative) was pretty limited.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #32 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 07:13:14 »
I think the most exciting thing is that we can get a 6u space by GMK.

For sure? GMK has promised you for that?
Of course, that's why they provide me the render with 6u spacebar.

Thanks for the explanation.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #33 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 07:23:14 »
Gray F and J keys with nubs?
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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #34 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 08:22:57 »
Damn 6u spacebar. I am not interested in this at first, but seeing that 6u spacebar changes everything.
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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #35 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 08:29:54 »
HHKB in mod pack? 

R1 - 1u \|
R2 - 1.5u Del/Bksp
R3 - 1.75u Control

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #36 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 09:02:22 »
I think if Dolch is to be run again, it HAS to have full support for all the various more recent layouts - HHKB, winkeyless etc.

Offline Cony_WANG

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #37 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 09:12:08 »
I think if Dolch is to be run again, it HAS to have full support for all the various more recent layouts - HHKB, winkeyless etc.

winkeyless is supported and I do not know whether HHKB layout is used by many people. since each kit should meet the moq, if only few people are using HHKB layout, those kit may not reach the MOQ.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #38 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 12:22:12 »
I think if Dolch is to be run again, it HAS to have full support for all the various more recent layouts - HHKB, winkeyless etc.

winkeyless is supported and I do not know whether HHKB layout is used by many people. since each kit should meet the moq, if only few people are using HHKB layout, those kit may not reach the MOQ.

HHKB is Topre, so right away nobody with a stock HHKB is going to buy this set.  That leaves you with modded HHKBs or people using sliders, and HHKB-like boards like the Duck Viper.  That's a pretty small number of potential users and I don't know if it's enough to justify raising the cost of the kit for everyone so a small percentage could maybe use the set.  Tough call.

Maybe I'm wrong and tons of people are using HHKB layout on Cherry boards.  Duck Viper users need to speak up en masse (and show up on group buy day) if they want in.
« Last Edit: Tue, 07 June 2016, 12:23:51 by Data »

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #39 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 12:27:46 »
I think if Dolch is to be run again, it HAS to have full support for all the various more recent layouts - HHKB, winkeyless etc.

winkeyless is supported and I do not know whether HHKB layout is used by many people. since each kit should meet the moq, if only few people are using HHKB layout, those kit may not reach the MOQ.

HHKB is Topre, so right away nobody with a stock HHKB is going to buy this set.  That leaves you with modded HHKBs or people using sliders, and HHKB-like boards like the Duck Viper.  That's a pretty small number of potential users and I don't know if it's enough to justify raising the cost of the kit for everyone so a small percentage could maybe use the set.  Tough call.

Maybe I'm wrong and tons of people are using HHKB layout on Cherry boards.  Duck Viper users need to speak up en masse (and show up on group buy day) if they want in.
Quite a lot of people are using HHKB-ish layouts (split backspace is the main one you need extra caps for).

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #40 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 12:31:48 »
More
I think if Dolch is to be run again, it HAS to have full support for all the various more recent layouts - HHKB, winkeyless etc.

winkeyless is supported and I do not know whether HHKB layout is used by many people. since each kit should meet the moq, if only few people are using HHKB layout, those kit may not reach the MOQ.

HHKB is Topre, so right away nobody with a stock HHKB is going to buy this set.  That leaves you with modded HHKBs or people using sliders, and HHKB-like boards like the Duck Viper.  That's a pretty small number of potential users and I don't know if it's enough to justify raising the cost of the kit for everyone so a small percentage could maybe use the set.  Tough call.

Maybe I'm wrong and tons of people are using HHKB layout on Cherry boards.  Duck Viper users need to speak up en masse (and show up on group buy day) if they want in.

Quite a lot of people are using HHKB-ish layouts (split backspace is the main one you need extra caps for).
What are you putting in the split backspace that you need extra caps for?  HHKB "default" layout is backslash and tilde.  Those caps come in the base kit.  I don't follow.

Edit: Sorry, completely derped out there.  It's the 1u backslash key.  I will leave my post intact so that all may witness my shame.   :rolleyes:
« Last Edit: Tue, 07 June 2016, 12:35:11 by Data »

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #41 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 12:34:54 »
More
I think if Dolch is to be run again, it HAS to have full support for all the various more recent layouts - HHKB, winkeyless etc.

winkeyless is supported and I do not know whether HHKB layout is used by many people. since each kit should meet the moq, if only few people are using HHKB layout, those kit may not reach the MOQ.

HHKB is Topre, so right away nobody with a stock HHKB is going to buy this set.  That leaves you with modded HHKBs or people using sliders, and HHKB-like boards like the Duck Viper.  That's a pretty small number of potential users and I don't know if it's enough to justify raising the cost of the kit for everyone so a small percentage could maybe use the set.  Tough call.

Maybe I'm wrong and tons of people are using HHKB layout on Cherry boards.  Duck Viper users need to speak up en masse (and show up on group buy day) if they want in.

Quite a lot of people are using HHKB-ish layouts (split backspace is the main one you need extra caps for).
What are you putting in the split backspace that you need extra caps for?  HHKB "default" layout is backslash and tilde.  Those caps come in the base kit.  I don't follow.
There's no 1u R1 backslack in the kit.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #42 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 12:41:41 »
It would be great if you could support HHKB. I think it will definitely be popular. The only keys you'd require would be a R1 \| key, R2 1.5u backspace and a R3 1.75u Control (also perhaps a stepped version, but not necessary)
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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #43 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 14:49:40 »
What would the row profiles be?

Would a Mac Mod set be possible?


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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #44 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 15:16:27 »
Interested in the add-on kit.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 15:42:50 »
Adapter / Add-on kit please - 6.25 spacebar + 2.75 right shift

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #46 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 16:25:24 »
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I think if Dolch is to be run again, it HAS to have full support for all the various more recent layouts - HHKB, winkeyless etc.

winkeyless is supported and I do not know whether HHKB layout is used by many people. since each kit should meet the moq, if only few people are using HHKB layout, those kit may not reach the MOQ.
HHKB is Topre, so right away nobody with a stock HHKB is going to buy this set.  That leaves you with modded HHKBs or people using sliders, and HHKB-like boards like the Duck Viper.  That's a pretty small number of potential users and I don't know if it's enough to justify raising the cost of the kit for everyone so a small percentage could maybe use the set.  Tough call.

Maybe I'm wrong and tons of people are using HHKB layout on Cherry boards.  Duck Viper users need to speak up en masse (and show up on group buy day) if they want in.

A good number of enthusiast PCBs have split backspace support, including various Duck/Leeku/LifeZone/GON PCBs, as well as the Phantom and the GH60.

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #47 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 16:27:17 »
I'd buy if there is HHKB layout support. It would be what makes this different from my other 2 dolch sets

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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #48 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 16:46:43 »
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I think if Dolch is to be run again, it HAS to have full support for all the various more recent layouts - HHKB, winkeyless etc.

winkeyless is supported and I do not know whether HHKB layout is used by many people. since each kit should meet the moq, if only few people are using HHKB layout, those kit may not reach the MOQ.
HHKB is Topre, so right away nobody with a stock HHKB is going to buy this set.  That leaves you with modded HHKBs or people using sliders, and HHKB-like boards like the Duck Viper.  That's a pretty small number of potential users and I don't know if it's enough to justify raising the cost of the kit for everyone so a small percentage could maybe use the set.  Tough call.

Maybe I'm wrong and tons of people are using HHKB layout on Cherry boards.  Duck Viper users need to speak up en masse (and show up on group buy day) if they want in.

A good number of enthusiast PCBs have split backspace support, including various Duck/Leeku/LifeZone/GON PCBs, as well as the Phantom and the GH60.

Also Leandren just finished up his plate/pcb GB for hhkb layout!
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Re: [IC] GMK Dolch
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 07 June 2016, 17:04:57 »
Been waiting for GMK Dolch to come back :)

Will keep an eye on this, really like the lil GMK cap.


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