Post by: driftingbunnies on Tue, 04 February 2020, 21:04:38
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Current list of changes to be made:
Update "Ice" character to be the Chinese character rather than JapaneseAdd R4 EscAdd Norde Kit (North)Separate 40s/OrthoAdd mod colored Pipe key for UK ISOChange mod pipe keys to alpha kitsAdd legends to ergo kitChange mod ~ keys to alpha kits
To dos:
- Receive samples and feedback from IC
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- Get deskmat designed
- Reach out to vendors
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- MetallicCharles for the quick renders
- eskimojo for the help with his ai files to get me started
- MechsOnDeck discord for the feedback
- DriftMechanics team for the feedback
- OCM for the awesome novelties and icon mods
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Post by: Hisui on Tue, 04 February 2020, 21:10:36
Post by: KingOfMemes on Tue, 04 February 2020, 21:18:08
Post by: Rensuya on Tue, 04 February 2020, 21:36:25
2. Blue colorway
All I needed to know. But for real it looks good, count me in :thumb:
Post by: Audiobs on Tue, 04 February 2020, 22:00:34
Post by: driftingbunnies on Tue, 04 February 2020, 22:25:49
Nice set! So we are inventing our own Kanji or Chinese character now? That doesn't look like 'Ice' to me.
haha yes! just kidding. It's the Japanese character. I'll get it fixed soon.
Post by: teexcue on Tue, 04 February 2020, 23:57:45
Post by: Tefrem34 on Wed, 05 February 2020, 00:07:04
Post by: chanchan on Wed, 05 February 2020, 00:31:36
Post by: YMwoo on Wed, 05 February 2020, 00:36:28
However, even though it might be hard, is there any possibility for the following kit?
- icon mod Ergo
- Mono Korean Alpha
It'll be perfect if you have those two ;D
Post by: psxndc on Wed, 05 February 2020, 00:49:06
Post by: Joaquox on Wed, 05 February 2020, 01:30:43
Post by: Vireca on Wed, 05 February 2020, 03:07:38
Ortho and 40s sets should be 2 kits, justo buy whatever you need. The ortho kit should have two 2u spacebars and two 1.5u spacebars. This is more some ergos like Kyria or Corne
If you are going to make Control un R2 in the capslock position, make a capslock key for R1 too. Same with a FN for R2
Also, theire is no ESC key in R4. You need it for 60-65% users
Post by: D3LTA on Wed, 05 February 2020, 07:17:53
Post by: Shurakai on Wed, 05 February 2020, 07:25:18
Also, second the ortho comments here:
2 things
Ortho and 40s sets should be 2 kits, justo buy whatever you need. The ortho kit should have two 2u spacebars and two 1.5u spacebars. This is more some ergos like Kyria or Corne
If you are going to make Control un R2 in the capslock position, make a capslock key for R1 too. Same with a FN for R2
Also, theire is no ESC key in R4. You need it for 60-65% users
Especially the 2 1.5 and 2u space key part. That would be great for split orthos like the Corne and Kyria, but also for some ortho layouts that just use a 2x2u layout.
Post by: Galdom on Wed, 05 February 2020, 07:44:09
NorDe kit and I'm in!
Amen on that! :-*
Post by: driftingbunnies on Wed, 05 February 2020, 08:13:11
2 things
Ortho and 40s sets should be 2 kits, justo buy whatever you need. The ortho kit should have two 2u spacebars and two 1.5u spacebars. This is more some ergos like Kyria or Corne
If you are going to make Control un R2 in the capslock position, make a capslock key for R1 too. Same with a FN for R2
Also, theire is no ESC key in R4. You need it for 60-65% users
I'm not sure I understand the Caps lock in R1. Would it be a 1.25u or 1.5u? Do people even use that? Also, Ctrl for R2 is already kind of niche, I would think FN R2 for 1.75 would be even more. People would probably just use Ctrl instead.
I appreciate the feedback though. I'll look to separate the 40s/ortho, add spacebars for ortho and add the ESC for R4. Thanks!
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 05 February 2020, 12:14:46
2 things
Ortho and 40s sets should be 2 kits, justo buy whatever you need. The ortho kit should have two 2u spacebars and two 1.5u spacebars. This is more some ergos like Kyria or Corne
If you are going to make Control un R2 in the capslock position, make a capslock key for R1 too. Same with a FN for R2
Also, theire is no ESC key in R4. You need it for 60-65% users
I'm not sure I understand the Caps lock in R1. Would it be a 1.25u or 1.5u? Do people even use that? Also, Ctrl for R2 is already kind of niche, I would think FN R2 for 1.75 would be even more. People would probably just use Ctrl instead.
Some people swap the Ctrl and Caps Lock keys (so Control will be between Shift and Tab, as was the custom before the Enhanced layout came out); if using an R3 (R2 in KAT parlance) Ctrl keycap for the position, the keyboard will now have three keys labelled as such, but one (the bottom left corner key, typically) will not really be Ctrl). Some sets, most notably sets from Originative, include two R4 (R1 in KAT parlance) Caps Lock keys, in 1.5U and 1.25U sizes, to provide for this.
Post by: kzwai on Wed, 05 February 2020, 19:05:31
Post by: Vizir on Thu, 06 February 2020, 14:33:45
Post by: vaf1en on Thu, 06 February 2020, 14:44:59
Would like to see your take on accents – I am thinking a lighter blue, maybe even turqoise.
Post by: dmatx1 on Thu, 06 February 2020, 16:08:55
Post by: honoka on Fri, 07 February 2020, 01:27:13
Post by: tanega on Fri, 07 February 2020, 06:58:47
Could you consider adding an international kit similar too the one in othe Kat GB? Keyreative moq principle makes it possible to offer maximum compatibilities for European regional layouts, it would be sad to drop it.
Post by: chriszhu on Fri, 07 February 2020, 08:37:47
Post by: driftingbunnies on Fri, 07 February 2020, 09:15:05
Hi very nice set !
Could you consider adding an international kit similar too the one in othe Kat GB? Keyreative moq principle makes it possible to offer maximum compatibilities for European regional layouts, it would be sad to drop it.
I'll try to work on including int'l kits. Which region are you looking for?
Post by: DaMnED on Sat, 08 February 2020, 11:42:29
Post by: honoka on Sat, 08 February 2020, 11:53:11
and as I asked for, blue mods
Post by: YMwoo on Sat, 08 February 2020, 23:06:25
I know it's a longshot, but I personally would love it.
also Korean dragon is considered as Eastern Dragon too anyway :))
Post by: driftingbunnies on Mon, 10 February 2020, 17:12:27
hi, just want to make sure about my previous comment about Mono Korean Alpha, will it be possible?
I know it's a longshot, but I personally would love it.
also Korean dragon is considered as Eastern Dragon too anyway :))
Hey! I think Mono korean alphas might be too much. i'm not sure if it would match with the novelties. I think it might look good separately but I don't think it fits as a whole. Thanks for your feedback though!
Post by: YMwoo on Mon, 10 February 2020, 18:43:29
Understood. Thanks for confirming.hi, just want to make sure about my previous comment about Mono Korean Alpha, will it be possible?
I know it's a longshot, but I personally would love it.
also Korean dragon is considered as Eastern Dragon too anyway :))
Hey! I think Mono korean alphas might be too much. i'm not sure if it would match with the novelties. I think it might look good separately but I don't think it fits as a whole. Thanks for your feedback though!
If I may have some other question/suggestions:
- Any ETA when you will run this?
- 1u keys for inner column on ergo kits
will wait for the icon mods for ergo kits too. have some worries but will wait for your update first
Post by: Vizir on Mon, 10 February 2020, 22:22:42
Yes. R3/R2/R1 each 2x1u would be useful for inside row ergo kits.Understood. Thanks for confirming.hi, just want to make sure about my previous comment about Mono Korean Alpha, will it be possible?
I know it's a longshot, but I personally would love it.
also Korean dragon is considered as Eastern Dragon too anyway :))
Hey! I think Mono korean alphas might be too much. i'm not sure if it would match with the novelties. I think it might look good separately but I don't think it fits as a whole. Thanks for your feedback though!
If I may have some other question/suggestions:
- Any ETA when you will run this?
- 1u keys for inner column on ergo kits
will wait for the icon mods for ergo kits too. have some worries but will wait for your update first
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Post by: driftingbunnies on Tue, 11 February 2020, 14:30:24
Yes. R3/R2/R1 each 2x1u would be useful for inside row ergo kits.Understood. Thanks for confirming.hi, just want to make sure about my previous comment about Mono Korean Alpha, will it be possible?
I know it's a longshot, but I personally would love it.
also Korean dragon is considered as Eastern Dragon too anyway :))
Hey! I think Mono korean alphas might be too much. i'm not sure if it would match with the novelties. I think it might look good separately but I don't think it fits as a whole. Thanks for your feedback though!
If I may have some other question/suggestions:
- Any ETA when you will run this?
- 1u keys for inner column on ergo kits
will wait for the icon mods for ergo kits too. have some worries but will wait for your update first
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I hope to spend some working on the ergo and splitting the 40s/ortho kits this week and next week.
I haven't heard anything from zfrontier about the samples but I'm 99% sure they're still not really operating due to the coronavirus. I update the thread once I receive more information from them. If they're able to do it, I'll get quotes and reach out to vendors to see when they have slots available. If there are any vendors interested, please point them my way. Thanks!
Post by: Mcnos on Tue, 11 February 2020, 15:03:55
Yes. R3/R2/R1 each 2x1u would be useful for inside row ergo kits.Understood. Thanks for confirming.hi, just want to make sure about my previous comment about Mono Korean Alpha, will it be possible?
I know it's a longshot, but I personally would love it.
also Korean dragon is considered as Eastern Dragon too anyway :))
Hey! I think Mono korean alphas might be too much. i'm not sure if it would match with the novelties. I think it might look good separately but I don't think it fits as a whole. Thanks for your feedback though!
If I may have some other question/suggestions:
- Any ETA when you will run this?
- 1u keys for inner column on ergo kits
will wait for the icon mods for ergo kits too. have some worries but will wait for your update first
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I hope to spend some working on the ergo and splitting the 40s/ortho kits this week and next week.
I haven't heard anything from zfrontier about the samples but I'm 99% sure they're still not really operating due to the coronavirus. I update the thread once I receive more information from them. If they're able to do it, I'll get quotes and reach out to vendors to see when they have slots available. If there are any vendors interested, please point them my way. Thanks!
Can confirm that they are not operational this week
Post by: driftingbunnies on Tue, 11 February 2020, 21:02:50
Post by: YMwoo on Tue, 11 February 2020, 21:49:17
Updated ergodox to include icons, let me know how they look. Thanks!The expanded kits are very nice :thumb:
Was hoping at least R2 enter but I know the kits here are the common layout so i guess can't really complain.
I can't decide whether i like this or blank one better :))
Post by: terrad on Wed, 12 February 2020, 04:28:51
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Post by: driftingbunnies on Wed, 12 February 2020, 22:41:04
Any possibility of blue mods and white alphas? Considering it's KAT extra kits won't really hurt
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I'll have to play around to see if I like that combination but my initial inclination is to keep the dark alphas light mods look. There are so many sets that have the white alphas dark mods combo already so it would be hard to differentiate if I do include that.
It would also essentially double the kits so blue text and blue icon mods, blue 40s text and icon mods, blue ortho text and icon mods, blue novelties, and blue ergodox.
Post by: lakeboredom on Thu, 13 February 2020, 02:13:11
Post by: NoChance on Fri, 14 February 2020, 10:06:17
Post by: Aerospiritual on Sat, 22 February 2020, 17:07:39
Post by: Rew23 on Sun, 23 February 2020, 00:56:24
Post by: dmatx1 on Sun, 23 February 2020, 00:58:25
Set looks great. Loving all the new KAT profile colorways coming out and this blue and white combo is one my favorite. Are these going to be ABS doubleshot or PBT?PBT dyesub and reverse dyesub.
Post by: titoepfx on Sun, 23 February 2020, 02:46:25
Post by: thedavefulton on Thu, 05 March 2020, 08:31:29
I really dig this colorway! My only note/request would be that the icons are a bit plain for my taste. While they look perfectly nice, I would hope for something a bit more... designy? Is that super helpful? :D
Seriously though, I'd point you to the last two sets I picked up (KAT Milkshake and Eternal) as examples of what I mean. I understand that a major redesign may be unrealistic but could I suggest expanding the novelties a bit? Perhaps just enough for an HHKB layout? *subtle wink*
Regardless I think you've got me for 2 or 3 kits ;D
Post by: Felt on Thu, 05 March 2020, 10:02:54
Set looks bomb, novelties could use work...
Post by: driftingbunnies on Sat, 07 March 2020, 16:32:57
*sigh* Dude, come on! I wasn't gonna buy any more keycaps for awhile :mad:
I really dig this colorway! My only note/request would be that the icons are a bit plain for my taste. While they look perfectly nice, I would hope for something a bit more... designy? Is that super helpful? :D
Seriously though, I'd point you to the last two sets I picked up (KAT Milkshake and Eternal) as examples of what I mean. I understand that a major redesign may be unrealistic but could I suggest expanding the novelties a bit? Perhaps just enough for an HHKB layout? *subtle wink*
Regardless I think you've got me for 2 or 3 kits ;D
Appreciate the feedback. I'm not really an illustrator so I wanted to keep the icons easy for keyreative to use. These are the same icon mods that OCM created for the KAT WoB. Personally I'm still hesitant in keyreative's ability considering that they've delivered one set as of today so I kept fonts and icons as default as they can be.
Agreed with ^^.
Set looks bomb, novelties could use work...
Appreciate the feedback. I'm not sure what other novelties might work, any suggestions?
Post by: nasp on Sat, 07 March 2020, 20:34:21
*sigh* Dude, come on! I wasn't gonna buy any more keycaps for awhile :mad:
I really dig this colorway! My only note/request would be that the icons are a bit plain for my taste. While they look perfectly nice, I would hope for something a bit more... designy? Is that super helpful? :D
Seriously though, I'd point you to the last two sets I picked up (KAT Milkshake and Eternal) as examples of what I mean. I understand that a major redesign may be unrealistic but could I suggest expanding the novelties a bit? Perhaps just enough for an HHKB layout? *subtle wink*
Regardless I think you've got me for 2 or 3 kits ;D
Appreciate the feedback. I'm not really an illustrator so I wanted to keep the icons easy for keyreative to use. These are the same icon mods that OCM created for the KAT WoB. Personally I'm still hesitant in keyreative's ability considering that they've delivered one set as of today so I kept fonts and icons as default as they can be.
They've delivered one KAT set as of today. I think that distinction deserves to be mentioned but I agree with your hesitancy nonetheless. That being said, I do prefer these more standard icons over something like KAT Atlantis.
Post by: driftingbunnies on Sat, 07 March 2020, 21:26:22
For those who requested a FR kit or South Kit, based on the numbers from other KAT sets, I've decided to not include those here.
Post by: YMwoo on Sat, 07 March 2020, 23:16:30
that makes a lot of these common legends are incorrect to use which can be kind of annoying.
this also applies to 65% users with the rightmost column, but usually it can be covered with novelties.
so if possible, i do like the idea of having a custom, semi-nonsense, icon like Atlantis / Godspeed.
This move can also reduce the number of keys per set which will help in reducing the total cost (since apparently, ergo kit for KAT sets are increasing for each release).
that being said, i do like the very clean, simple default icons.
Post by: driftingbunnies on Sun, 08 March 2020, 10:33:10
personally, after looking at many sets, I think ergo user (and to some extent, 40's/ortho) are the type of users that like to mess up with their layout to find the "best" way.
that makes a lot of these common legends are incorrect to use which can be kind of annoying.
this also applies to 65% users with the rightmost column, but usually it can be covered with novelties.
so if possible, i do like the idea of having a custom, semi-nonsense, icon like Atlantis / Godspeed.
This move can also reduce the number of keys per set which will help in reducing the total cost (since apparently, ergo kit for KAT sets are increasing for each release).
that being said, i do like the very clean, simple default icons.
While I understand what you’re saying, I think blank mods make more sense than middle of the road mods that don’t really make sense for anyone. I’m indifferent but since I’ve already put the effort into including the legends, I’ll probably leave it unless people really prefer blank mods.
Post by: YMwoo on Sun, 08 March 2020, 11:48:49
While I understand what you’re saying, I think blank mods make more sense than middle of the road mods that don’t really make sense for anyone. I’m indifferent but since I’ve already put the effort into including the legends, I’ll probably leave it unless people really prefer blank mods.Yep, it's totally cool. Either way, I'm still interested in the kit.
Just putting it out there to consider.
Hoping the kit price will be okay though.
Post by: thedavefulton on Tue, 10 March 2020, 17:54:34
*sigh* Dude, come on! I wasn't gonna buy any more keycaps for awhile :mad:
I really dig this colorway! My only note/request would be that the icons are a bit plain for my taste. While they look perfectly nice, I would hope for something a bit more... designy? Is that super helpful? :D
Seriously though, I'd point you to the last two sets I picked up (KAT Milkshake and Eternal) as examples of what I mean. I understand that a major redesign may be unrealistic but could I suggest expanding the novelties a bit? Perhaps just enough for an HHKB layout? *subtle wink*
Regardless I think you've got me for 2 or 3 kits ;D
Appreciate the feedback. I'm not really an illustrator so I wanted to keep the icons easy for keyreative to use. These are the same icon mods that OCM created for the KAT WoB. Personally I'm still hesitant in keyreative's ability considering that they've delivered one set as of today so I kept fonts and icons as default as they can be.Agreed with ^^.
Set looks bomb, novelties could use work...
Appreciate the feedback. I'm not sure what other novelties might work, any suggestions?
Well, that all sounds reasonable enough. I wish I had some ideas for ya, but my role is more "oooh, that looks neat; I'd like to trade you this money for that thing." And like I said, I don't think they look bad by any means :).
Post by: julianlamme on Tue, 10 March 2020, 18:41:16
Post by: driftingbunnies on Wed, 25 March 2020, 21:47:02
I've also started the process of commissioning a deskmat and more renders so that's on the horizon. I'm not looking to changing any of the kits unless there's a glaring issue with any of them like a missing key. I also don't have any new novelty ideas so if there's something you would like to see, please let me know and I'll see if it makes sense with the kit.
Thanks everyone!
Post by: lakeboredom on Fri, 17 April 2020, 19:05:30
Post by: driftingbunnies on Sat, 18 April 2020, 21:13:09
Post by: Vizir on Sat, 18 April 2020, 22:49:28
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Post by: driftingbunnies on Sun, 19 April 2020, 22:31:32
Any plans for a mat?
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Yes! It's still on my list of requests :)
Post by: lakeboredom on Sun, 17 May 2020, 05:00:55
Post by: lz2019 on Sun, 17 May 2020, 19:28:25
Writing it in a standard and commonly appeared shape is respecting the language, also avoid misleading others.
please improve it, thank you.
Post by: lz2019 on Sun, 17 May 2020, 19:35:00
please reference.
Post by: driftingbunnies on Sun, 17 May 2020, 21:41:54
That Chinese character "冰" (Ice) is written ugly! Come on, no place has the "冰" character looking like that.
Writing it in a standard and commonly appeared shape is respecting the language, also avoid misleading others.
please improve it, thank you.
Thanks for your feedback. The reason it was written ugly is because it was actually written and converted into a vector. I'll update both words to an actual font. However, I'm not going to go with a regular font like you linked because I would like it to have a bit more character to it.
Post by: lz2019 on Sun, 17 May 2020, 23:08:50
That Chinese character "冰" (Ice) is written ugly! Come on, no place has the "冰" character looking like that.
Writing it in a standard and commonly appeared shape is respecting the language, also avoid misleading others.
please improve it, thank you.
Thanks for your feedback. The reason it was written ugly is because it was actually written and converted into a vector. I'll update both words to an actual font. However, I'm not going to go with a regular font like you linked because I would like it to have a bit more character to it.
Yep, the one I put up is just a googled one. It's great you plan to work more on it.
Post by: loddee on Thu, 04 June 2020, 15:20:20
Post by: driftingbunnies on Thu, 04 June 2020, 15:22:15
Any updates on progress with IC/timeline for GB? :)
Nothing solid. I currently have a US vendor interested and obviously zFrontier but for sure it will be after Sloth is in GB. So earliest would be near the end of Q3. Realistically sometime in Q4.
Post by: Yoshi on Mon, 15 June 2020, 22:12:44
Post by: rinstady on Fri, 03 July 2020, 07:12:33
' you have a GREAT job bro '
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Post by: brandkeebs on Sat, 18 July 2020, 00:36:53
Post by: driftingbunnies on Mon, 28 September 2020, 12:39:33
Post by: Rew23 on Mon, 28 September 2020, 23:11:53
Post by: loddee on Tue, 29 September 2020, 08:14:19
Post by: Anakey on Tue, 29 September 2020, 09:55:47
Post by: driftingbunnies on Tue, 29 September 2020, 10:03:12
any chance for a 1.25u cloud novelty for those using ISO as you already have the Iso enter novelty?
Good suggestion, let me add that to the list.
Post by: driftingbunnies on Tue, 06 October 2020, 15:02:40
Post by: Sandy on Wed, 07 October 2020, 00:44:23
Post by: lakeboredom on Thu, 08 October 2020, 03:37:43
Post by: boneandbee on Wed, 28 October 2020, 09:33:54
Post by: driftingbunnies on Wed, 28 October 2020, 09:38:44
This set is beautiful! This is absolutely the type of set you NEED to get the desk mat with. When this runs I'll 100% buy it and put it on my Austin :)
Appreciate it :)
Unfortunately some bad news. We're putting this set on hold until KAT becomes more reliable. Most recently, there has been delays in getting invoices, warped spacebars and keys 2u or longer, etc etc. I apologize to those looking forward to this set. I'll continue to be in talks with the US vendor to see when the best time will be if we decide to run it.
Post by: boneandbee on Tue, 17 November 2020, 14:40:30
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 17 November 2020, 14:46:25
Will buy when this is ready down the road.