| User | Paid? |
| Rainb1ood | Yes! |
| Kisakuku | Yes! |
| Litster | Yes! |
| Omuerte | Yes! |
| Autolyze | Yes! |
| Dirge | Yes! |
| Boost | Yes! |
| Reaper | Yes! |
| Kaiserreich | Yes! |
| Bavman | Yes! |
| Robat | Yes! |
| Inlikeflynn | Yes! |
| KylJoy | Yes! |
| Denonic | Yes! |
| jpm804 | Yes! |
| Soulpyre | Yes! |
| eth0s | Yes! |
| TranscendingLogic | Yes! |
| Korne | Yes! |
| Forin | Yes! |
| DanGWanG | Yes! |
| Xbb | Yes! |
| Shawn o | Yes! |
| Dorkvader | Yes! |
| Sth | Yes! |
| Lan123 | Yes! |
| Jinhan108 | Yes! |
| Postlapsaetia | Yes! |
| Megnin | Yes! |
| Changdrew | Yes! |
| Lowkey | Yes! |
| jdcarpe | Yes! |
| Akimbo | Yes! |
| biochem | Yes! |
| tbag | Yes! |
| hazeluff | Yes! |
| Tranquillite | Yes! |
| MyNameIsFinn | Yes! |
I like the base kit & add-on kit too.
Both version's space key size is the same?
Based on the worst possible Wyse to have gotten, you may need: 8 1.25 modifiers (extra one for caps if use ctrl in caps location), both shift, enter, \, backspace, `, R3 caps lock if not want to use ctrl, all 6 keys for nav cluster, numpad 2unit vertical +, numlock, /, *, -, and spacebar.all 6 keys for nav cluster, numpad 2unit vertical +, numlock, /, *, -
That should cover everything. I know not everyone will need all that, but also there are some other boards like the ASCII terminal that have black legend instead of navy, so it wouldn't hurt to have all match either.
Based on the worst possible Wyse to have gotten, you may need: 8 1.25 modifiers (extra one for caps if use ctrl in caps location), both shift, enter, \, backspace, `, R3 caps lock if not want to use ctrl, all 6 keys for nav cluster, numpad 2unit vertical +, numlock, /, *, -, and spacebar.
That should cover everything. I know not everyone will need all that, but also there are some other boards like the ASCII terminal that have black legend instead of navy, so it wouldn't hurt to have all match either.
Because I already sent an email, as of right now it's the base and the addon kit from the first page. We'll see how that goes.
Could someone explain/link to a wiki that explains what this "moogle" kit is?It is explained in the Deskthority wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Moogle_kit).
It is explained in the Deskthority wiki (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Moogle_kit).
I honestly think its easier to find a set with a good tenkeypad/home cluster then making kits as the interest of them could be real low.But I only have a WYSE 30, 50 and 60. None of those have a proper keypad. Can we at least get pricing for it, and then see about interest? It may be that there's enough to make it worthwhile.
The base kit covers most things.
Oh yes, that home cluster kit should be 9 keys ._.
But I only have a WYSE 30, 50 and 60. None of those have a proper keypad. Can we at least get pricing for it, and then see about interest? It may be that there's enough to make it worthwhile.Of course, It shouldn't be too bad because no custom legends but you never know from SP
Also these fit standard Cm storm keyboards right?
So with the base kit plus something like below, I'd be able to cover a Filco completely?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-4-WYSE-ASCII-Terminal-Keyboard-840338-09-840358-13-/330692709579?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item4cfed24ccb
I changed my mind. I'm in for:I need a PM from you, considering I don't have an original order from you. I also need one from Tsangan.
1x Base kit
1x Add-on
Damn you!!! Damn you all!!! You are PUSHERS!!! PUSHERS I SAY!!!!!
(OK, not really)
Just write in OP, in order to order you have to order 2x base kit and the reasoning, and BAM we're done
Changing mine to
2x base
1x add-on
I'll PM in a bit :P
I just put together your info from previous transactions, so unless anything's changed, don't worry about it.Everything is the same :)
As of right now, I'm just worried about the addon kit making it to 25 orders.
I am happy to double the base kit. But then I will also need to double my addon kit!
Wyse: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyse
Wyse terminal keyboard: http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=wyse+terminal+keyboard&qpvt=wyse+terminal+keyboard&FORM=IGRE
Wyse have 2 kinds of keycaps. One kind is thin like Signature Plastics' keycaps, one kind is very thick and nice. Alpha, numeric, and function keys fit modern keyboards, but not the front row keys, and may be a few others. This is where Moogle kit comes in. It is named after a Geekhack member here who came up with the idea of ordering keycaps with matching color and font from SP for the front row keys and spacebar plus whatever other keys are missing. Then you have a full set of keycaps that look the same (or close enough) on the whole keyboard.
There are also Moogle kits for white/beige Cherry double shots, Black Cherry double shots, and Dolch double shots. See the other moogle kit interest check threads.
You should be able to find a lot of new to like new Wyse terminal keyboards in China from the "western garbage"，洋垃圾.
If I got a terminal board would the base moogle kit complete it?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WYSE-TERMINAL-ANSI-KEYBOARD-PART-NUMBER-900128-02-/220768086068?pt=UK_Computing_Networking_SM&hash=item3366cda834#ht_2965wt_1007
Stuck at 24?!I was away this weekend. I will probably post it on Dekthority and kbmania though. That's a good idea.
Is this posted on kbmania and deskthority?
afaict, they are grey.. which is balls! :(Those are Cherry doubleshots, not WYSE. You can buy a moogle kit for them in Hashbaz's moogle kit round 3 buy.
As I had only recently gotten 2 x sets of the white on black wyse double shots from clickey/quarzac and was hoping to get the usual ctrl x 2, alts x2, winkeys x2, winapp x 1 and most importantly STEPPED Capslock.. on both my Filco and Leo, my current capslock keycap sticks up like jacky.. and i hit it way too often. :l and stepped looks pimped.
The alternative for me I guess, is find a GB for Wyse white on black for the bottom (Ctrl) row and then just get proffoist to mod my stepped mofo's. but I have possibly ruined one :X
I was away this weekend. I will probably post it on Dekthority and kbmania though. That's a good idea.
Yeah, those KBDmania guys really love WYSE (with good reason). Hopefully we'll get more orders.I can't figure out the proper place to post this to on KBDMania. The english board, I suppose? Threw it up on DT.
I'll take 1 or 2 base kits once I decide what keyboard they're going on. (Maybe I'll just have to buy another.)
I was away this weekend. I will probably post it on Dekthority and kbmania though. That's a good idea.
Those are Cherry doubleshots, not WYSE. You can buy a moogle kit for them in Hashbaz's moogle kit round 3 buy.
so addon kits are not compatible with filcos?
i'll get 1 base kit
so addon kits are not compatible with filcos?Need a PM for posterity's sake.
i'll get 1 base kit
anyone knows what color these keys will have?
I have a WYSE set and an SP color ring. If we haven't yet decided on colors I can take some pictures.If you could do that, that would be awesome. I have neither of those things and they're kind of a prerequisite for color matching.
i will take 1 standard set. PM'ed u on deskthorityI got you. You're the one Deskthority kit. You're also on the list on Deskthority.
I have a WYSE set and an SP color ring. If we haven't yet decided on colors I can take some pictures.
BASE KIT WYSE
2 Control 1.25x
2 Alt 1.25x
2 Win 1.25x
1 Menu 1.25x
1 Right shift 2.75x
1 Capslock 1.75x
1 Spacebar 6.25x
1 ANSI left shift 2.25x
1 ISO left shift 1.25x
1 Enter 2.25x
1 Backspace 2x
1 Backslash (\|) 1.5x
And the second kit would consist of:
WINKEYLESS ADD-ON KIT
2 Control 1.5x
2 Alt 1.5x
2 Win 1x
1 Space 7x
Alright! So Melissa got back to me on pricing:
Basic Kit (15 total keys):
I have a kind of... peculiar request for one of you guys. I found a pretty good WYSE set on eBay, but most of my money is tied up, so I don't feel totally comfortable buying it right now. If one of you could buy it and then ship it to me, I'll knock the price off your end result invoice. I'd prefer it be someone I've dealt with before, but beggars can't be choosers. I understand it's kind of a weird request, but worst case scenario I'll just end up color matching to litster's pictures.
i think he wants a wyse set himself.
for him to keep? that's what im getting at from his message.
as in, it'll be his. not just to color match. unless i'm mistaken, then i apologize.
Here's another idea. I send you one of my WYSE keysets I already have if you want EDIT: for you to keep. I have the full keyboard or just the keys alone EDIT: for you to keep. I've cleaned the keyboards and keys. We can work something out if you want a set EDIT: for you to keep. The keyboards are model # 840338-09.
EDIT: I should have been more clear! :peace:
Peace
That's generous!If it's the same one, the seller has something like 18 boards, so I'd say go right ahead.
I'm interested in the WYSE set that Quarzac saw on ebay. Is it okay if I buy that? I'll be very happy to keep it if this deal goes through, and if not, I'll be happy to send it off to Quarzac.
If everyone doubled there order you can reach 75. And would be paying $1 more for 2 sets compared to 1.
If everyone doubled there order you can reach 75. And would be paying $1 more for 2 sets compared to 1.Should we take a pole? Majority rule. Everyone get double your order for another buck or possibly loose Add-on set entirely?
I have a WYSE set and an SP color ring. If we haven't yet decided on colors I can take some pictures.
Likewise. But WHICH Wyse are we talking about here? I pulled the keycaps off of my old wy50. They look great on my camp Filco TKL, but the modifier keycaps don't fit. These are all BROWNISH tones. I understand that some WYSE boards had grey tones. I do not want gray.
Alright, so after checking out the picture of the color wheel and litster's pictures, I could only really settle on BFU for the text. Can someone with a color wheel and a wyse set try to match the dark grey?
I've already double downIn unrelated news, I had one of those once. They're quite tasty.
Everyone else, just do it instead of saying you will do it when everyone does it, which basically is a endless cycle. It will reach the 75 set mark but if everyone does nothing but talk it won't happen, simple as that
DOUBLE DOWNNNN :thumb:Show Image(http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/KFC+Launches+Controversial+Double+Down+Burger+eN7twsryDEvl.jpg)
Is there more than one WYSE color scheme, or is it just a matter of aging and yellowing?
Looks like those keys has been in the sun for too long
I would be in on this if the colors matched, but I don't need GREY keys.
What are the SP color codes these will be in? Shouldn't that be in the OP?? ;-)
BTW, isn't the Filco space bar 6x, not 6.25x?
BTW, isn't the Filco space bar 6x, not 6.25x?
15 units for the bottom row, 7 keys are 1.25 units leaving the space bar 6.25 units long
Ok. I verified with DT and GB4 that Filco space bar is 6.25x
Please give me the SP ABS chip colors that this GB run is going to use. Anyone?
Ah! Well, when it comes down from pie in the sky, you'll have another order to add to the pile! ;-)
Alright, so after checking out the picture of the color wheel and litster's pictures, I could only really settle on BFU for the text. Can someone with a color wheel and a wyse set try to match the dark grey?
With Wyse, unless you have a NIB copy, you are not going to get 100% color match because most used caps are yellowed to different degrees. But, you can see your set's original order if you look under the cap, where the ABS plastic didn't get any UV exposure.
looks like the layout is going to change very soonShow Image(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7005/6424877667_4cae45ce06_b.jpg)Show Image(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7026/6424878383_cc64fa8228_b.jpg)
ALERT! The reason we need a ~` key in this Moogle kit is not only because of the color, but also because of the extremely different profile! I don't think we want this:
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ALERT! The reason we need a ~` key in this Moogle kit is not only because of the color, but also because of the extremely different profile! I don't think we want this:
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I think SPACE should be in the lighter color, and all the other modifiers in the darker color.
PS: the proper blue for the legends is BFU
Please give me the SP ABS chip colors that this GB run is going to use. Anyone?
You need to know this by heart when your post count is over 200! LOL!
I did the same thing. You don't have to use the lowered ~` key. You use it because it is of the thicker kind. IIRC, you can the ~` keycap at the correct R1 profile from a Wyse keyboard that also gives you the long shifts. The ~` key color is the same as the rest. It looks different because the shadow fools your brain.
Maybe take a shot with the bottom of the two keys facing up next to the blue chipsets as well as the closest greys if you can?
Why? Just use your color picker and compare colors. I used flash for best possible color fidelity.
You completely missed my point. I DO have to use a ~ key. And if I use the Wyse one, it sits WAY too low.
My color complaint is that it is of the lighter color, instead of the darker color. The shadow in my photo is immaterial. the color pattern is broken by not having the ~ key and the modifiers in the darker shade.
I hope that is clearer.
Yeh I went and just frankensteined your photo. Check post #165.
Why? Just use your color picker and compare colors. I used flash for best possible color fidelity.
some people have the ~` key at the right profileThanks litster
And since when the ~` needs to be the same color as the modifiers?
Flash does not equate color fidelity.
Good job; but you had a good point initially, so here you go:
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The colors that I placed closest are the ones that I think match the best. I realized that the BBI sometimes looks closer, but I am almost certain that the blie is BFU.
I hope y'all appreciate that I am [strike]giving up[/strike] eschewing momentarily booze, babes, and movies to help out here! ;-)
I REALLY don't want to add keys to the buy so close to its conclusion. Doing so would inevitably change prices, and having to follow up with every person who ordered (about 30 at this point) to make sure they're ok with the price changes would delay us significantly.'s cool. I'm okay with WYSE profile differences, but it's not a full moogle kit (which will bother some people). In practice, the spacebar-row backspace I used for a month wasn't all that bad, and this is a much lesser change on a more-unused key.
Oh crap! Good call. Yep. We need tab keys too. I may be OUT of this buy after all. Sorry.
If you look at my camo Filco you'll see how much of the wyse I was able to use.
It is design sense that dictates the ~ key match the other "surround" keys. It doesn't look as good to have that dangling chad out there.
Tab might be a good idea.See, if you have a WYSE PCE, then you don't need some of these caps anyway. If you have an older WYSE terminal, then you'll need the ~` key regardless. I'm not worried about it, but I'm okay with blatantly off profile keys. In the interest of a complete moogle kit, you'll need to include one.
Kill the coloured tilde. None of my boards have a tilde that matches the modifier.
If your particular set has a lower profile I'm sure there are other cheap key sets and maybe someone can help you find an extra. But I don't think it belongs in a group buy change for everyone.
They ship to Canada. I'm up here, I've got one coming. Just order. You don't need a proxy.I closed it to further international orders because I already have 10 and don't have the time to fill out a million customs forms.
If a ~ key is added, it will be in the lighter tones of the alphanumerics. A tab key, however, would be darker. However, I still haven't heard from Melissa about it.
I closed it to further international orders because I already have 10 and don't have the time to fill out a million customs forms.I'm only worknig 30Hrs/week, so anyone wanting international sets, PM me, and I'll figure out shipping.
If a ~ key is added, it will be in the lighter tones of the alphanumerics. A tab key, however, would be darker. However, I still haven't heard from Melissa about it.See, this makes sense. Thanks, Quarzac.
My revised color recommendations, after viewing under various light sources, and accounting for yellowing of the backs too:
GG - dark gray
BFU - dark blue
GBA - light grey
I closed it to further international orders because I already have 10 and don't have the time to fill out a million customs forms.
Once again... if we're under 50, is there any reason why we wouldn't want to just double things up overall so that we're hitting 75+ for roughly the same price?I will not add anything to everyone's order without confirmation from all of them, which I did not get when the idea was first proposed.
I will not add anything to everyone's order without confirmation from all of them, which I did not get when the idea was first proposed.
Understandable. I'm about to head to bed, but in the unlikely event that something big happens in the next hour, I'm cool with a second base kit if it means we hit 50/75, and a second add-on kit if it means that the add-on kit gets made. If we're still at less than 50 base kits including that, I'll just stick with the one. Thanks!Alright, will do! Thanks!
Wait, what? I was expecting that we could hit at least 50 base sets. I am not sure if I want to pay $37 a set for a Wyse moogle kit. Can't we wait a bit to get more orders?Yeah, same here. I'll have to drop down to 2 orders, unless we can get 50 pricing.
If not, I might be out.
If y'all want to agree to pay the extra to include a DARK TAB and ~ key, I'll reinstate my two orders, and might even push it to three or four.
But I think Quarzac has made his call. I'll just wait for a FULL NEW Wyse kit, and then not have to worry about matching, etc.
If y'all need help with the colors though, I'm still happy to help. :-)
Did you see the picture of my keyboard? I like the symmetry. I'd prefer dark grey/brown/olive to the black, but I can live with the black until I can do something else. I am NOT going to buy an 88% complete Moogle kit though. That would just be stupid! Then I'd have a black tab and a black ~ (or a completely !@#$ed profile ~).... You can follow this logic at least, right? And take a look back at my keyboard to see the symmetry I'm talking about. Of course, I may just be insane... ;-P
Here's what it looks like with the Wyse ~ key on there. It just looks like a hanging chad to me:
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Here's my sense of balance appeased:
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FWIW, it's the same thing with the / key. I want it to match the backspace and return keys.
PS: I am in no way trying to muck with this GB. At this point, it appears to have been set in stone. But if y'all change it such that it provides what I need, I'm happy to do my part to push it into the next pricing tier.
I'm not forcing anything on anyone. I'm stating a design preference based on a heightened sense of artistic aesthetics.
The evidence you provide, an array of keyboards whose looks are marred by a visually errant key (among other things), merely reinforces my original design decision, and reminds me of the fact that "average IQ" is a puny 100. I fear to guess what artistic IQ must be in this country. It often seems that artistic IQ plummets as standard IQ rises, giving rise to this keyboard:
You might just as well have displayed an array of Presidents' wives over the past 45 years. Those are examples of what constitutes the vetted choices of men we trust to make big decisions for us. But, aside from maybe Jackie Kennedy in her prime, I'll choose:
Or an endless array of McDonalds pink-slime crap. I'll grill my own sirloin.
Or the average American car.... or the average house... or the typical outfit....
But hey, if you prefer things [strike]ugly[/strike] average, by all means, make YOUR keyboard look how YOU want it! And if you think it looks better that way, great! There's the great thing about replaceable keycaps. :-)
FWIW, I showed my two layouts to several actual artists, and got 100% agreement that the one with the balanced dark keys (i.e. the dark ~ and dark /) looked best.
Wasn't there 43 standard orders listed there on the last update? If so we're already past the point where ordering >50 sets is better for everyone
<50 sets $36.65 per set
>=50 sets $23.27 per set
>=75 sets $18.81 per set
MATH
43 sets x $36.65 = $1575.95 total cost
50 sets x $23.27 = $1163.5 total cost (this is cheaper)
75 sets x $18.81 = $1410.75 total cost (this is cheaper)
86 sets x $18.81 = $1617.66 total cost to DOUBLE everyone's order (costs $1 extra per original order set to double your order)
It makes no sense at all to order just 43 (or what ever the number is) sets when you can get any larger quantity for cheaper at this point. Hell just doubling every order ends up only costing $42 total more (basically $1 more per original order set).
Just double everything and make it simple. You pay $36.65 per single set OR your pay $37.65 and get to two sets. Everyone will chose to pay the extra $1 unless they are crazy
You can follow this logic at least, right?
The evidence you provide, an array of keyboards whose looks are marred by a visually errant key (among other things), merely reinforces my original design decision, and reminds me of the fact that "average IQ" is a puny 100. I fear to guess what artistic IQ must be in this country. It often seems that artistic IQ plummets as standard IQ rises, giving rise to this keyboard:
[ridiculous example]
You might just as well have displayed an array of Presidents' wives over the past 45 years. Those are examples of what constitutes the vetted choices of men we trust to make big decisions for us. But, aside from maybe Jackie Kennedy in her prime, I'll choose:
[Scarlet Johansson]
But hey, if you prefer things [strike]ugly[/strike] average, by all means, make YOUR keyboard look how YOU want it! And if you think it looks better that way, great! There's the great thing about replaceable keycaps. :-)
FWIW, I showed my two layouts to several actual artists, and got 100% agreement that the one with the balanced dark keys (i.e. the dark ~ and dark /) looked best.
Why are you forcing your own opinion on to us and make it sound like your opinion is the majority, the most logical choice, when in fact your opinion is the minority?
Do you realize how arrogant and condescending this is? The extent to which it makes people dismiss you? If you counter with "well, I'm right" then you have missed the point.
There's no "right" when it comes to aesthetics. And asymmetry is also a well-established artistic and design principle, btw. If you prefer dark tilde and backslash, fine. You don't have to be a **** about it.
Hey hashbaz,
Truce brother! :-)
On the above points you are absolutely correct, and I agree with you completely; aside from the tone. I'm sorry if I came across as a ****. I feel that you were, and still are, attacking me directly for simply stating my design preference, and using "everyone does it this way" to smash my dreams; sure, a small dream, but nonetheless... That's a common theme in my life, and my sense of righteous indignation probably came through more than I intended. I should probably not respond to emotionally charged, potential flame wars, with zero sleep in 23 hours. It was my intent to throw some humor into the discussion, while standing up for my preferences - that's all. I'm sorry the humor didn't shine through and drown out my artist's pain. :-P
It was heartening to hear my design choice approved by artists that I trust, and maybe that should have been enough. I'm new to this community, and maybe my enthusiasm for these ubiquitous Human Computer Interfaces is not shared by others in the same way. I guess time will tell.
Anyway, my sincere apologies for any ****iness that came across. I just want to share my enjoyment of keyboards with kindred spirits here.
Peace
PS: I'd love to continue the discussion, if we can do it rationally, and debate merits without attacking character.
Crap. The fire is out before I could put more gasoline in.It's terrible how reasonable some people can be :(
Oh dear god I did not think this through. I do not want to send the 30 something PMs this requires. But I'll do it for you guys.
You can only PM five at a time unfortunately. I'm working on a script to automate mass PMs for group buys.I don't have a lot of experience but it seems like it would be real easy for iMav to set up a group buyers user group that has higher PM capabilities.
I don't have a lot of experience but it seems like it would be real easy for iMav to set up a group buyers user group that has higher PM capabilities.
Plus it would be cool if gb organizers had a little badge or something identifying their service to the rest of the community :)
hashbaz;Quarzac;Autolyze;...
I'll give you a definitive pricing once I hear back from everyone.
I'm in for $1 more.
"For just a few dollars more...." Sounds like a spaghetti western.
I found a place online that has those PS/2 compatible WYSE 'boards for $30. Anyone interested? I prefer my WYSE to be $20 or less, but if it's PC compatible, maybe it's worth it.
"For just a few dollars more...." Sounds like a spaghetti western.
I found a place online that has those PS/2 compatible WYSE 'boards for $30. Anyone interested? I prefer my WYSE to be $20 or less, but if it's PC compatible, maybe it's worth it.
Right, I'll ask the seller if they have any stock, then.
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You have to make an account. I'll see if they confirm my registration Monday, I guess.
"For just a few dollars more...." Sounds like a spaghetti western.
I found a place online that has those PS/2 compatible WYSE 'boards for $30. Anyone interested? I prefer my WYSE to be $20 or less, but if it's PC compatible, maybe it's worth it.
If we wait until next week, I may be able to get a non-yellowed, ps2, WYSE keyboard to do a proper color comparison on... And also add several orders to drop prices significantly. But if time is more important than money and precision....Maybe? I have yet to hear back from everyone about doubling.
Would adding 14 kits help?
GBA and GJV seem closest for light and dark grey, and BBI for blue. Honestly, none of the dark greys I found were spot on, but I think GBA is very close.
Captain recommended GTV for dark grey, which I didn't even pick out as close. Like I said though, it's night time and the lighting in my house is not ideal for this kind of thing. I'll include GTV in my pics tomorrow. It's encouraging at least that we both independently chose GBA and BBI (I didn't look at his pics before going through my colors).
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Go back and look at one of my first shots with ALL of the chips out. Post 171 I think.
Send me a NIB Wyse with cherry MX keys and I'll do a reshoot. :-D
Is this GB still on?
This is still on. I have to contact SP this week to follow up on fonts and things. For those of you who have been diligently looking at colors, what's your final verdict on the closest matches?
GBA for spacebar, BBI for legends, and for dark grey I'm going to throw a vote towards GSY.Alright, I'll use these. Thanks for your hard work, Denonic and Hashbaz. I may not be around too too much for the next couple days, since I have a boatload of work to do for next week, but spring break starts next Thursday for me, so I'll try to knock out most of my correspondence and begin collection by then.
Can't wait... got a set of yellowed WYSE caps soaking right now.
I thought I was going to be using a somewhat yellowed set from a WY-85 ISO layout. Instead I've just stumbled across two minty ANSI layout WYSE boards. Sweet!I've got another fresh set coming in the mail... but I actually like the yellowed caps. I put them on my board already! All I need are 1.25x modifiers, caps lock and a spacebar...
The order-doubling from a while back is going to pay off... :D
Can I still get in on a base set?
Control 1.25x
2 Alt 1.25x
2 Win 1.25x
1 Menu 1.25x
1 Right shift 2.75x
1 Capslock 1.75x
1 Spacebar 6.25x
1 ANSI left shift 2.25x
1 ISO left shift 1.25x
1 Enter 2.25x
1 Backspace 2x
1 Backslash (\|) 1.5x
I vote '1 TAB 1.5' instead of '1 Backslash (\|) 1.5x'
Just confirming invoice amount is right. $45.62 for 1x Basekit with shipping within US?
Shipping will be an additional $6 on top of your order cost, $8 if you're international.
They also have backspace and enter, but we're getting those. Just wondering.
What is the cost per basekit? I was invoiced $45.62 for my order of a single basekit. $6 shipping, $1 for the second set, and $37.62 for the first basekit? Did we not even get to the 25 mark?
Quarzac are you still doing a prototype for the grey?I dunno. Maybe.
I think for the color codes GE and BFU look to be the closest to me.
... too many years ago and those record have been destroyed.
Sorry I don't have any specific color information for you!
GBA for spacebar, BBI for legends, and for dark grey I'm going to throw a vote towards GSY.
I thought we were going with these colors?
What happened to 7bits posts with properly matched colors? As well as every other post after this?
Eaten up by little monsters who think bits and bytes are good food.
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My WYSE keycaps look nothing like those colors. That WYSE pictured by 7Bit is much rarer version.
I have WYSE PCE 840358-01 and lettering is so dark blue its nearly black. And keys are dark grey (GTD) and almost tan not even close to GSX color above.
Its not fading either....
If those are the colors you're going with, I want my money back. This should have been decided BEFORE having people pay.....
My WYSE keycaps look nothing like those colors. That WYSE pictured by 7Bit is much rarer version.
I have WYSE PCE 840358-01 and lettering is so dark blue its nearly black. And keys are dark grey (GTD) and almost tan not even close to GSX color above.
Its not fading either....
If those are the colors you're going with, I want my money back. This should have been decided BEFORE having people pay.....
I might take a set from a deadbeat, just to have On hand And I won't even whine about the tilde. ;-)
I might take a set from a deadbeat, just to have On hand And I won't even whine about the tilde. ;-)
I need someone to pick up 1 base kit and one addon kit! If you're interested, PM me!
I just realized I had a nearly complete WYSE set. I didn't know the enter key, shift keys, and ctrl keys fit. This set looks amazing on this board...I can't wait till the Moogle kit comes in. Hurry up SP!
The order has been placed!
The keycaps on WYSE 840358-1 are light beige. The legends look black, but are dark navy.Same for 840338-01.
On 840358-13, the keycaps are light grey. The legends look closer to blue, lighter than those on 840358-1.
Most of them are made in Taiwan, but some in China.
Can hardly wait for these. My Filco needs some WYSE moggle love.
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Also, don't be a **** about it. Sell it at cost. He's a nice guy
Guess what just arrived at my house? A giant box of keycaps! The dark keys match my WYSE set perfectly, and the light ones are a tad too light compared to mine, but mine could use a little retrobriting. I'll get them out ASAP, though it may be a bit. I'm in my last week of school, and then I'll get them on their way.
I didn't order any extra, but I know a lot of members probably have an extra set or two. Shoot a PM to sth and see if he wants to unload another, and I'll invoice it up. Also, I'll take pics tomorrow in natural light, because warm house lighting ruins colors and I'm terrible at taking pictures.
****. I have bad news that is entirely my fault. The space bars are not the universal ones that apparently exist, and are standard Filco ones. I didn't specify, and Melissa didn't ask. Sorry about that, any other Cherry stabilizer folk.
****. I have bad news that is entirely my fault. The space bars are not the universal ones that apparently exist, and are standard Filco ones. I didn't specify, and Melissa didn't ask. Sorry about that, any other Cherry stabilizer folk.
Get the numbers of how many people need it, then have a whip round for the cash. I'd rather you made a mistake that cost me $4 than cost you $400 mate.
Yup, I don't mind paying $4 more if that's what it'll cost.X2
So are you going to fix this issue? Otherwise I won't be able to use it. Please let us know.
dunno what fits a Poker, but reading back through it sounds like Quarzac intended to order the six-post space bars that fit Cherry, Filco, and Leopold and ended up with three post ones that only fit Filco/Das/WASD and other similar boards. Not the end of the world; I've modded space bars before, but it's extra work. If the price is reasonable I'd definitely pop for another space bar if nothing else because a) I missed the GB completely (although I've already got two responses, so hope is not lost) and b) I intended to use my one set of Wyse keys on a Leopold, so I actually *would* have to do extra work even if I did get a kit.
What I don't understand is since SP apparently has the mold made, why they don't just consider the "universal" space bar the default for orders for a 6 unit space bar. *shrug*
What was the deal with the space bar? Will the one shipping fit Pokers?
Good to know. Thanks, demik. I don't own a Leopold, so I only know about them what I've read on here. I'm willing to throw in a few bucks to help replace spacebars for those affected, although I only need the standard one.
cool so don't feel bad mate, mistake happen. Your not a company, you don't have a customer services department, we're not going to kick off and be ****s about this. Way I see it you've done us the favour.Sometimes I really love the GH community.
tbh does it opens up more space bar choices? as a lot of the wyse ones are MASSIVE maybe some size options are a good thing? If we're going back to sig plastics, did we miss anything with the first order? I mean apart from only catering for filco users :PThe WYSE spacebars I have appear to be ~10 units long (I got 9.75 using one that got broken in a late night and ill-advised fencing competition)
Sometimes I really love the GH community.
The WYSE spacebars I have appear to be ~10 units long (I got 9.75 using one that got broken in a late night and ill-advised fencing competition)
Heck, I might order a spare spacebar anyway, though I don't dig leopold spacing, so I'm happy with the costar ones available already.
Whatever fits my phantom, went for the plate without winkeys 1.5 mods.
quarzac, how much is it exactly per universal spacebar at 75 set price break? For people who will not order extra spacebars, when will you ship their orders out? For people who will order extra spacebars, will you ship their orders when the new spacebars come in? Thanks.
I'll have about 10 extra Filco bars from the folk who can't use them, so If you're interested in space bars and can use those, let me know.
I don't understand what is going on here. Can you explain exactly what you are going to do?Good point. I didn't think of that. Alright, so Melissa got back to me. Spacebars are $1.48 per unit. Another $2 for shipping. If you really don't want to pay for the universal space bars, shoot me a PM. We'll talk it out, but I'd rather not have to take on a ton of replacements. We'll see how many orders for space bars I have when it wraps up. If you want the WYSE set earlier than the other space bars, you'll have to pay for the second shipping though.
Are the people who want the universal spacebars going to have to pay for them? If so, how much? How are you planning to handle the shipping?
Are the people who want the universal spacebars going to receive the Filco spacebars that they paid for? For instance, I own Filco and Leopold keyboards. This means I need the universal spacebars but can also use the Filco spacebars.
In my PM when I said that I wanted the universal spacebars I did not say that I had no use for the Filco spacebars. From the quote above it sounds as if you plan to take the Filco spacebars that some of us have paid for and resell them to other people. I would not be happy with a situation where I had to pay for two spacebars but only received one.
Quarzac, would you please post pictures of all the keys for the base kit and the addon kit? Thanks.
Quarzac, would you please post pictures of all the keys for the base kit and the addon kit? Thanks.Will do this weekend.
If I can get in on this I'd like a universal space bar, and in any case I'd also like to offer a home for any unwanted Filco space bar or two. Let me know...Shoot me a PM. The Filco bars will be going out to the people who ordered them unless they specifically request not to have them sent.
Quarzac, would you please post pictures of all the keys for the base kit and the addon kit? Thanks.
Dear sweet Jesus, I just started going through all the keys, and SP botched this all to hell. I don't have any addon kits, I'm short 50 backspaces, 50 |\s, 50 enters, and 50 ISO shifts. I'm going to have to delay this whole buy until this is fixed. i just emailed her. I'll keep you guys updated.
Has anyone ever considered any alternative companies to SP? Do they even exist? I know of one, Fentek Industries. I ordered some caps from them before. Seemed to be pretty good quality, although they also had spur marks on the front face of the keycap =/
Fentek goes to sp for doubleshots. The uk company (can't remember name) is limited to what they can do.
Our goal is to achieve excellence in customer satisfaction by providing products and services that meet the needs and exceed the expectations of our customers.
Devlin? Yeah they have some pretty thick keycaps, but they cant do doubleshotsYeah devlin.
http://www.solutionsinplastic.com/about_quality.html
LOLOL
The geekhack community should invest in a machine that can do double-shots...then we won't have any more sp problems :D
The geekhack community should invest in a machine that can do double-shots...then we won't have any more sp problems :D
Will the new keycaps and spacebars arrive at about the same time?I believe I should receive them in the same shipment, but I'm not totally sure.
Can we get some pics of the sp keys you have on hand?
Quarzac, any news on when the missing keys will be shipped to you? And can you take some pictures of the caps you have now?
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Can we get some pics of the sp keys you have on hand?
This :DThe keys will theoretically get to me on the 22nd. You should have them by the end of the month, if all goes well. I'll take pictures once I can get/find a good camera.
The keys will theoretically get to me on the 22nd. You should have them by the end of the month, if all goes well. I'll take pictures once I can get/find a good camera.
Just use any camera. We just want pics so we can see the keycaps, not a master piece from Ansel Adams. Use the camera on your phone, even if this is your phone:To clarify: I love Black and White pictures as much as the next guy, but I'm also used to seeing colour. I'm amazed at how well my pictures come out when I go outside with a piece of white paper. Even the cellphone images are nice.Show Image(http://www.motorolaflipphone.net/wp-content/uploads/motorola-razr-v3-flip-phone.jpg)
i, for one, welcome our windows 3.1 mod overlords.
In some way, it is kind of fitting to have the very old school Windows logo to go with the very old school Wyse keycaps. Just that the old logo is unexpected. Why would SP choose this old logo for this order when all the previous GH orders used the newer Windows logo? That makes no sense at all. Does SP roll the dice before they start each order to see which random part of the order they want to mess with?
The old logo is loads better than the new '4 squares with a limp'.
I have all the keycaps now. I'll get to sorting them/ shipping them out ASAP.
I have all the keycaps now. I'll get to sorting them/ shipping them out ASAP.
Pics or it didn't happen. LOLIt is documented that I am terrible about pictures. Maybe I'll snap one of all the ziplock bags when I'm done sorting.
My new g80 is going to get WYSEr than ever before :cool:For the record, the G80 looks fantastic with a WYSE set. I'd imagine it would look even better with matching mods.
EDIT: Got the mailers just now. I'll be shipping out on Monday.
Is the extra moogle kit still available?Nope, sorry. Also, if you're an international order, check your PMs ASAP.
Is the extra moogle kit still available?