[IC] Phantom PCB

[bavman]

We've gotten a go-ahead to use the Phantom PCB designs to run a GB.
We'll only be running just the PCBs, no controllers/switches/plates/diodes.
Switches and diodes are fairly common to find/source, and teensy controllers can be bought from  PJRC electronics: http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/index.html

Pricing is yet to be announced until I hear back from pcbwing, until then, the original GB ended up being $35.


Here are reference threads to info about the plate:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=26742.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=23572.0

Phantom PCB board borrowed form Litster:

[metalliqaz]

YUUUUUUUUUP

[kmiller8]

YIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[korne]

I'm interested for sure

[tjcaustin]

If I could find a good case, this would quell my urge to get a tkl korean board, I think.

[Acetrak]

If I could find a good case, this would quell my urge to get a tkl korean board, I think.

That urge doesn't die after it starts


Question, are these PCB's going to be exactly the same as the ones from the original Phantom GB?

Any potential add on to this GB for cases?

[bavman]

nvm

[Shadovved]

If I could find a good case, this would quell my urge to get a tkl korean board, I think.

Just get the korean tkl and laugh at the world 

[tjcaustin]

But this is equally exclusive.  And I can read the instructions and I don't have to know a korean to get one ordered or get stupid lucky like I did with my mxmini and 356mini...



Just need a good case for these.  Wonder if treble would do it once he's running at capacity again.

[Shadovved]

But this is equally exclusive.  And I can read the instructions and I don't have to know a korean to get one ordered or get stupid lucky like I did with my mxmini and 356mini...



Just need a good case for these.  Wonder if treble would do it once he's running at capacity again.

Imma gonna run a custom case for myself whoopie!

[Dgsbllx]

[WhiteFireDragon]

I have one, but interested in another PCB. Can it be slightly modified to accept SMD diodes and controller? Without a daughterboard controller, it's easier to design future cases to fit.

And also, this PCB fits all layouts listed in the google doc so why do we need to choose which layout option?

[bavman]

I have one, but interested in another PCB. Can it be slightly modified to accept SMD diodes and controller? Without a daughterboard controller, it's easier to design future cases to fit.

And also, this PCB fits all layouts listed in the google doc so why do we need to choose which layout option?

Mainly because I didnt know

[tjcaustin]

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I'm transfixed...

[jdcarpe]

In for 2 (or 3).

I bet The_Beast will run a plate GB if people need plates.

[duq]

Interested.

[jdcarpe]

Did this get cross-posted to DT? If not, it should...

[Sai]

again. i am interested but wallet not allows. 

[boost]

In for 2-3...

Just turn this into the GB


Will need to check with Dan to grab another plate

[jdcarpe]

Question, are these PCB's going to be exactly the same as the ones from the original Phantom GB?

Yes, exactly the same.

Can it be slightly modified to accept SMD diodes and controller? Without a daughterboard controller, it's easier to design future cases to fit.

It could, yes, and I've talked with bpiphany about just those options (plus holes for PCB mounted switches and stabilizers). He is (inactively) working on a 2.0 revision, but we have nothing but the original at the moment.

[phetto]

I'm in for 5

[tjcaustin]

It may not be the worst thing in the world to coordinate with beast or someone to smoosh plates into this GB as well.  Also, I think oneproduct is working on an aluminum/acrylic case that would work as well.

[mistakemistake]

I'm in.

[jdcarpe]

I'm in.

Yay! Does that mean you're in for making some kind of little detachable cable stubs for these?

[Piehunter]

Hey, would anyone be kind enough to tell me how much the whole endeavor would cost? (or in what balllpark it runs in) before i put my finger in the gear :S

from what i understand
pcb 35
plate 15-35 (based off GB from boostbeast and whitefire
Case =??? (i saw some made in aluminum that were like 300+ but thats a bit out of my budget range)
keys = 40-50? @ around .4 per key or something like that

and then you would need keycaps ofc...am i missing anything else?

edit: sorry for name mistake :S

[boost]

Hey, would anyone be kind enough to tell me how much the whole endeavor would cost? (or in what balllpark it runs in) before i put my finger in the gear :S

from what i understand
pcb 35
plate 15-35 (based off GB from boost and whitefire
Case =??? (i saw some made in aluminum that were like 300+ but thats a bit out of my budget range)
keys = 40-50? @ around .4 per key or something like that

and then you would need keycaps ofc...am i missing anything else?

I didn't do a plate GB sir. l

You also need to ad $16 for the teensy 2.0. You'll need a filco case. not sure if the PLU cases will work

[alaricljs]

boost != the_beast

[mistakemistake]

I'm in.

Yay! Does that mean you're in for making some kind of little detachable cable stubs for these?

Haha.. sure I'll post up a DIY on how to do an inline female mini-b connector, so you can use any usb cable. I'll keep you all posted when time gets closer.

[Sai]

Hey, would anyone be kind enough to tell me how much the whole endeavor would cost? (or in what balllpark it runs in) before i put my finger in the gear :S

from what i understand
pcb 35
plate 15-35 (based off GB from boost and whitefire
Case =??? (i saw some made in aluminum that were like 300+ but thats a bit out of my budget range)
keys = 40-50? @ around .4 per key or something like that

and then you would need keycaps ofc...am i missing anything else?

yes. thats what i want to know as well.
The total cost for building a phantom

[TheProfosist]

boost != the_beast

lol yea i messed that one up the other day my self but even worse had MMB mixed in as well.

[tjcaustin]

Hey, would anyone be kind enough to tell me how much the whole endeavor would cost? (or in what balllpark it runs in) before i put my finger in the gear :S

from what i understand
pcb 35
plate 15-35 (based off GB from boost and whitefire
Case =??? (i saw some made in aluminum that were like 300+ but thats a bit out of my budget range)
keys = 40-50? @ around .4 per key or something like that

and then you would need keycaps ofc...am i missing anything else?

 1 PCB (includes 2 white LEDs and2 resistors) - $35
 1 Plate - $25
 1 Teensy (includes 1 40-pin pin header) - $16
 100 switches - $65ish (I think that's what I paid to get them from 7bit)
 100 diodes - $4
 4 2x stabilizers for ANSI or 3 2x stabilizers for ISO or 0 for PH7BIT - (??)
 1 7x or 1 6.25x stabilizer set for spacebar or 0 for PH7BIT - (??)
 1 case - Depends on what you go with or can find.  There are acrylic cases that would work starting at $40ish, or you could try and find another filco case.

I would think, all said and done to plan for $300 before caps.

[TheProfosist]

Hey, would anyone be kind enough to tell me how much the whole endeavor would cost? (or in what balllpark it runs in) before i put my finger in the gear :S

from what i understand
pcb 35
plate 15-35 (based off GB from boost and whitefire
Case =??? (i saw some made in aluminum that were like 300+ but thats a bit out of my budget range)
keys = 40-50? @ around .4 per key or something like that

and then you would need keycaps ofc...am i missing anything else?

I didn't do a plate GB sir. l

You also need to ad $16 for the teensy 2.0. You'll need a filco case. not sure if the PLU cases will work

plu cases work like a boss contact qtan about a plu-87 nothing else

[nebo]

I'd be in for this. I remember watching the KMAC and phantom DIY videos on putting it all together but if someone offered a service to have everything go to them and be assembled I wouldn't say no.

[mistakemistake]

can we get a matte royal purple pcb color?

[Shadovved]

can we get a matte royal purple pcb color?

Baby/hot pink please! 

[TheProfosist]

I'd be in for this. I remember watching the KMAC and phantom DIY videos on putting it all together but if someone offered a service to have everything go to them and be assembled I wouldn't say no.

lol been working on that and already have received some pms from people on this topic

[nebo]

I'd be in for this. I remember watching the KMAC and phantom DIY videos on putting it all together but if someone offered a service to have everything go to them and be assembled I wouldn't say no.

lol been working on that and already have received some pms from people on this topic

You are a gentleman and a scholar. I think this might be my best chance to get a winkeyless board w/ergo clears.

[TheProfosist]

I'd be in for this. I remember watching the KMAC and phantom DIY videos on putting it all together but if someone offered a service to have everything go to them and be assembled I wouldn't say no.

lol been working on that and already have received some pms from people on this topic

You are a gentleman and a scholar. I think this might be my best chance to get a winkeyless board w/ergo clears.

yea could definitly do that send me a pm when you get a chance.

[TheProfosist]

Also i think this GB should have different color PCBs personally to set it a bit apart from the first.

[nebo]

can we get a matte royal purple pcb color?

Baby/hot pink please! 

White PCB is where it's at, so underdone.

[Halverson]

Definitely interested in one of these!

[TheProfosist]

can we get a matte royal purple pcb color?

Baby/hot pink please! 

White PCB is where it's at, so underdone.

white would be cool the reverse phantom

[kmiller8]

White PCB is where it's at, so underdone.

YIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[MMB]

I dont think an IC is even needed. I am pretty sure you won't have an issue getting orders.

In.

[aggiejy]

I'm in for one too!

[Sai]

umm. i can't resist. i am in as well.

[esoomenona]

Yes, please.

[TheProfosist]

if its a different color i want one to build into a black PLU case.

[SmallFry]

I've gotten my Phantom for around $100, total. $300 is way overshooting, IMO.

[danielucf]

Consider me interested.

[Sifo]

lol why is there even an interest check for this? gogogo!!!

[bavman]

We need to get pricing and all that good stuff figured out before an official gb goes up

[Leewei]

Interested. GOGO!

[SmallFry]

I say we add plates to this buy as well as SET cut off dates as to not let this go on longer than necessary, but I'm not participating, so good luck to you all!

[aggiejy]

1+ for adding plates

[akuJIWA]

+1 plates as well, I'm in either way.

[DanGWanG]

In for +1 PCB =)

[ekw808]

+1

[daerid]

Aside from the WASD V2, this is the only thing that'd make me buy more Cherry switches. Consider me in (for AT LEAST one, probably two).

[WhiteFireDragon]

Because this is one of the more interesting TKL keyboards. It'll be superior to the Korean customs if we can get an aluminum metal case with it.

[WhiteFireDragon]

Btw I got a few PMs for questions of total costs and help with assembly. I'll just post it here too so know you what parts to source and cost expectations:

• 1 PCB $35
• 1 case $??
• 1 plate $18
• 1 teensy controller $20
• 87 diodes $2
• 87 switches ~$60
• 10 stabilizers (plate mounted cherry or costar) ~$10
• 1 USB cable $??
• keycaps $??

That's roughly $150 before shipping and other fees. Of course the number of switches and diodes will vary depending on the layout you choose, but not by much. The only layout that adds significant amount of switches is the 7bit layout, which is a little over 100 switches.

edit: I just realized tjcaustin also posted a list of things needed. It's correct for the most part but $300 is grossly overestimated unless that includes buying a brand new $150 filco just for the case.

[durainello]

+1

[akuJIWA]

Btw I got a few PMs for questions of total costs and help with assembly. I'll just post it here too so know you what parts to source and cost expectations:

• 1 PCB $35
• 1 case $??
• 1 plate $18
• 1 teensy controller $20
• 87 diodes $2
• 87 switches ~$60
• 10 stabilizers (plate mounted cherry or costar) ~$10
• 1 USB cable $??
• keycaps $??

That's roughly $150 before shipping and other fees. Of course the number of switches and diodes will vary depending on the layout you choose, but not by much. The only layout that adds significant amount of switches is the 7bit layout, which is a little over 100 switches.

edit: I just realized tjcaustin also posted a list of things needed. It's correct for the most part but $300 is grossly overestimated unless that includes buying a brand new $150 filco just for the case.

Thank you, WFD. Can I PM you for some questions after getting the PCB? I really want to learn how to assemble it myself, otherwise can you set it up?

[pmh1410]

i'm in for one 

[WhiteFireDragon]

You can PM me questions but just post it in the main thread so everyone else can benefit from question/answer too. I urge people to assemble or mod their own keyboards, that's why I made THIS video. I also have a video of a phantom assembly process from start to finish but been too lazy to edit and upload the video. I'll upload that specific video when we get closer to the GB.

[akuJIWA]

You can PM me questions but just post it in the main thread so everyone else can benefit from question/answer too. I urge people to assemble or mod their own keyboards, that's why I made THIS video. I also have a video of a phantom assembly process from start to finish but been too lazy to edit and upload the video. I'll upload that specific video when we get closer to the GB.

Thanks a lot, sir.

[Sai]

You can PM me questions but just post it in the main thread so everyone else can benefit from question/answer too. I urge people to assemble or mod their own keyboards, that's why I made THIS video. I also have a video of a phantom assembly process from start to finish but been too lazy to edit and upload the video. I'll upload that specific video when we get closer to the GB.

Please post the video. that way i can do by myself. !!

[TheProfosist]

You can PM me questions but just post it in the main thread so everyone else can benefit from question/answer too. I urge people to assemble or mod their own keyboards, that's why I made THIS video. I also have a video of a phantom assembly process from start to finish but been too lazy to edit and upload the video. I'll upload that specific video when we get closer to the GB.

Please post the video. that way i can do by myself. !!

there was a good diy thread origiannly for the phantom that was more than good enough to figure out how to build it idk if its still available on gh might want to try DT.

[Sai]

You can PM me questions but just post it in the main thread so everyone else can benefit from question/answer too. I urge people to assemble or mod their own keyboards, that's why I made THIS video. I also have a video of a phantom assembly process from start to finish but been too lazy to edit and upload the video. I'll upload that specific video when we get closer to the GB.

Please post the video. that way i can do by myself. !!

there was a good diy thread origiannly for the phantom that was more than good enough to figure out how to build it idk if its still available on gh might want to try DT.

now that you mentioned it, i remember seeing it when i was searching for Phantom.

[Batmann]

That's the spirit, DIY is the way to go =)
In for 1 PCB at least
few questions though:
- to WFD: your plate will fit the PCB rigth?
- not sure about that but will the pcb fit in the vortex tkl alu case?

Treble cases look superior to everything I've seen so far, It would be great to work something out with him (like a killer alu case signed with a phantom logo a la LZ cases)

[TheProfosist]

No it wont fit in a Vortax Alu Filco case as the plates edges need to be bent.

[TheProfosist]

Also http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38305.0 for assembly services if you need them.

[Shadovved]

Broken link, my friend

And it fits into a regular Filco TKL casing?

[TheProfosist]

Broken link, my friend

And it fits into a regular Filco TKL casing?

sorry i think since its an interest check it has to be authoized first or what ever sorry will repost when its working.

Also yes fit a Filco TKL or PLU-87.

[Shadovved]

I see.....

Then I would need a new case........ 

[TheProfosist]

I see.....

Then I would need a new case........ 

get a plu then and use the case and switches?

[Shadovved]

I see.....

Then I would need a new case........ 

get a plu then and use the case and switches?

Imma lusting for something custom made 

DIY in SS, I only lack the schematics 

[TheProfosist]

I see.....

Then I would need a new case........ 

get a plu then and use the case and switches?

Imma lusting for something custom made 

DIY in SS, I only lack the schematics 

i want stainless case too but that may have to wait for phantom v2 as it seems everyone waht to push this buy along.

[Shadovved]

I see.....

Then I would need a new case........ 

get a plu then and use the case and switches?

Imma lusting for something custom made 

DIY in SS, I only lack the schematics 

i want stainless case too but that may have to wait for phantom v2 as it seems everyone waht to push this buy along.

I might wanna do it myself I think.... but I am reluctant to pick apart my Filco LOL

Wondering if anyone has already done that and has the blueprints??

[akuJIWA]

Does it fit into a QFR case?

[dirge]

phantom gb 2 needs to have a heavy focus on a case.

[Shadovved]

CASING FTW!

[gameaholic]

in

[tmk1207]

in for one

[Donbabbeo]

in for at least one, maybe two

[netdevil]

Dam another blow to the the wallet  Interested!

[pasph]

please make also a PHISO125 plate.
It will fit in the MKC alu cases?

[Shadovved]

please make also a PHISO125 plate.
It will fit in the MKC alu cases?

As reported by others, no-go with the MKC casing 

[pasph]

so i wish finally someone make a good tkl alu case!

[WhiteFireDragon]

Vortex has one for cheaper, but you'll just have to use the stock filco plate with it. Also the quality is not so great.

[jdcarpe]

Cross posted this IC to Deskthority here: http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/phantom-pcb-t4646.html

[WhiteFireDragon]

That's the spirit, DIY is the way to go =)
In for 1 PCB at least
few questions though:
- to WFD: your plate will fit the PCB rigth?
- not sure about that but will the pcb fit in the vortex tkl alu case?

Treble cases look superior to everything I've seen so far, It would be great to work something out with him (like a killer alu case signed with a phantom logo a la LZ cases)

Yeah it was made to fit phantom PCB also. In one of the pics in my GB, the plate was mounted on a phantom PCB and installed in a filco case, everything lines up well:



The PCB might work inside the vortex aluminum case, but I wouldn't count on it because it needs to be paired with a stock Filco or CM quickfire plate. Any plates that are just flat without the top and bottom bends will not work.

[TheProfosist]

Does it fit into a QFR case?

no as the standoffs are in different places.

[TheProfosist]

Well my thread got authorized so if your looking for assembly services please take a look at this thread http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38305.0

[tjcaustin]

Btw I got a few PMs for questions of total costs and help with assembly. I'll just post it here too so know you what parts to source and cost expectations:

• 1 PCB $35
• 1 case $??
• 1 plate $18
• 1 teensy controller $20
• 87 diodes $2
• 87 switches ~$60
• 10 stabilizers (plate mounted cherry or costar) ~$10
• 1 USB cable $??
• keycaps $??

That's roughly $150 before shipping and other fees. Of course the number of switches and diodes will vary depending on the layout you choose, but not by much. The only layout that adds significant amount of switches is the 7bit layout, which is a little over 100 switches.

edit: I just realized tjcaustin also posted a list of things needed. It's correct for the most part but $300 is grossly overestimated unless that includes buying a brand new $150 filco just for the case.

Or planning to spend that much on a one off aluminum case/risking a vortex aluminum one.  Besides, I would rather plan to have more money than needed than not enough.

[daerid]

In for a plate or two as well.

[metafour]

I'm in for at least one if not two PCBs

[TheQsanity]

Yea, I'm in I just have to check out the past forum stuff on how to put it together ><.

[clakdale661]

I heard about this "Phantom" keyboard and very interested in it. But the cost in switches alone is almost the cost of a complete keyboard (like the CoolerMaster Quickfire TKL). I need to start budgeting for this, so is there a ETA for when these will get released?

[dorkvader]

I'm in for one to pair with the extra phantom plate I got.

[TheQsanity]

Will plates also be available?  Just wondering how hard is it to acquire one.

[TheProfosist]

Will plates also be available?  Just wondering how hard is it to acquire one.

someone will probably run a separate GB and i may offer them with my assembly service.

[t2russo]

In on this and the assembly thread

[insomnesia]

also interested..
if group buy started,,i would order 10..

[TheProfosist]

also interested..
if group buy started,,i would order 10..

WOW O.O and order for 10 your going to share with your Korean friends?

[Caaaarrrt]

I think I will be in for this.

I have been enjoying the small amount of soldering I have been doing lately, so I might as well get some more to do. Plus these look awesome!

[bavman]

Okay a little update.

1) I think were going to keep the price at a flat $35
2) I will include 100 diodes with every plate included in the price just because its super cheap (<$1 for 100) if we buy a large quantity.
3) Shipping is yet to be decided, but from preliminary searches it will run around $7-8 for domestic and $12-15 for international. This includes shipping charges as well as shipping material (boxes, tape, lots of newspapers)
4) We need to decide on a LED color for the caps/scroll lock. Included with every board will be 2 LEDs for theses keys and 2 compatible resistors.

[jdcarpe]

Awesome, thanks, bavman!

I vote for white or blue LED.

[boost]

UV LED's

[nebo]

Awesome, thanks, bavman!

I vote for white or blue LED.

+1 on this. Let's do a not as common color, every board has blue and red.

[Shadovved]

Awesome, thanks, bavman!

I vote for white or blue LED.

+1 on this. Let's do a not as common color, every board has blue and red.

Lets do a PINK! ORANGE! 

[metalliqaz]

I agree blue and red are very common.  I vote for white or purple.
Can you actually see UV LEDs?

[alaricljs]

UV leds are purple and dim and do not look at them directly as they make your eyes feel funny (and cause a little damage). 

[boost]

UV leds are purple and dim and do not look at them directly as they make your eyes feel funny (and cause a little damage). 

Gottcha, Red or white LEDs then

[Acetrak]

Are UV leds the same as the magenta ones I sometimes see on here? IIRC they are mostly purchased via ebay shipped from China. Are those the same ones that cause problems?

I vote something not white since white leds were from round 1

[jdcarpe]

Black LEDs, then.

[alaricljs]

Every time I press one of these black controls, labelled in black on a black background, a little black light lights up black to let me know I've done it.

[jdcarpe]

^ You're too quick.

[nebo]

Black leds it is! Imagine how sexy this board could be with white PCB and black leds. Throw in that one case in design with the clear center and some CCnBlack keycaps. So monotone, so pretty.

[reverkiller]

Any ETA on the group buy? I have a super limited budget, but am really interested in this, so I want to know how little I should be eating until it comes out.

[boost]

Any ETA on the group buy? I have a super limited budget, but am really interested in this, so I want to know how little I should be eating until it comes out.

better get them soups ready lol

[metalliqaz]

Eat Ramen, buy keyboards  )

[jdcarpe]

Get 2nd job, eat as usual, buy keyboards.

[nebo]

Ramen? Soup? You mean ketchup and hot water? Those were dark days.

[TheProfosist]

I say not white that was last GB

[korne]

Orange leds ftw

[pasph]

2) I will include 100 diodes with every plate included in the price just because its super cheap (<$1 for 100) if we buy a large quantity.

What kind of plate?

[esoomenona]

I think he meant PCB.

[Leewei]

+1 for white/purple leds.

[bavman]

2) I will include 100 diodes with every plate included in the price just because its super cheap (<$1 for 100) if we buy a large quantity.

What kind of plate?

Yup sorry meant pcb

[KuhnTang]

Total Rookie Question:

What is the benefit of a board like this?

I saw a post of a guy summing up cost and it came out to like $300 (w/o keys).  Will this end up being superior to a board like Filco, or even a RealForce at that price?  Don't get me wrong, I'm ALL about quality, which keeps me searching for the (perfect ?) keyboard, but would not want to do it if the only benefit is the satisfaction of self assembly.

So what do I get out of this board that I don't get out of a Filco/Realforce/Ducky/etc?   

[TheProfosist]

Main thing you choose your layout and you can program it to do as you please.

[Acetrak]

Custom layout, option of custom plates, programmable layouts (although you can have that if you got the HID Liberation Device from an earlier GB) etc.

Lots of options of what you can do, you CAN just make another Filco-like board but that's not the advantage of a Phantom.

[nebo]

Not sure where you're getting $300. PCB and all that will be around $35 and $100 for switches. $20 or so for a plate with $10 for a controller and you have a board.$ 165. Keycaps and a case are up to you, can get a filco case for $20 and keycaps vary too much to price.

[reverkiller]

I just found out I can get my parents to pay for textbooks AND NOT BUY TEXTBOOKS.

Phantom, here we come!

[alaricljs]

As a parent, I'd really like to know how that works out for you. 

[KuhnTang]

Hey, would anyone be kind enough to tell me how much the whole endeavor would cost? (or in what balllpark it runs in) before i put my finger in the gear :S

from what i understand
pcb 35
plate 15-35 (based off GB from boost and whitefire
Case =??? (i saw some made in aluminum that were like 300+ but thats a bit out of my budget range)
keys = 40-50? @ around .4 per key or something like that

and then you would need keycaps ofc...am i missing anything else?

 1 PCB (includes 2 white LEDs and2 resistors) - $35
 1 Plate - $25
 1 Teensy (includes 1 40-pin pin header) - $16
 100 switches - $65ish (I think that's what I paid to get them from 7bit)
 100 diodes - $4
 4 2x stabilizers for ANSI or 3 2x stabilizers for ISO or 0 for PH7BIT - (??)
 1 7x or 1 6.25x stabilizer set for spacebar or 0 for PH7BIT - (??)
 1 case - Depends on what you go with or can find.  There are acrylic cases that would work starting at $40ish, or you could try and find another filco case.

I would think, all said and done to plan for $300 before caps.

I'm getting the $300 from here.  I's on the second page of the very thread you are reading.

[reverkiller]

As a parent, I'd really like to know how that works out for you. 

Its only a minor deception - I've spent my own money on my textbooks up to this point, and found out my parents had saved enough money for my textbooks for the rest of my college career in some small credit union. I told them I'd withdraw money to pay for "expenses". I think my mom realizes that means keyboards. (Considering I just picked up a Siig Minitouch and got a Poker with in the last month.)

[nebo]

That only goes up to $145 before stabilizers, case and keycaps. So also not sure where they got $300. It all depends on what case and keycaps you want.

[Piehunter]

Btw I got a few PMs for questions of total costs and help with assembly. I'll just post it here too so know you what parts to source and cost expectations:

• 1 PCB $35
• 1 case $??
• 1 plate $18
• 1 teensy controller $20
• 87 diodes $2
• 87 switches ~$60
• 10 stabilizers (plate mounted cherry or costar) ~$10
• 1 USB cable $??
• keycaps $??

That's roughly $150 before shipping and other fees. Of course the number of switches and diodes will vary depending on the layout you choose, but not by much. The only layout that adds significant amount of switches is the 7bit layout, which is a little over 100 switches.

edit: I just realized tjcaustin also posted a list of things needed. It's correct for the most part but $300 is grossly overestimated unless that includes buying a brand new $150 filco just for the case.

Or planning to spend that much on a one off aluminum case/risking a vortex aluminum one.  Besides, I would rather plan to have more money than needed than not enough.

This is the latest assessment

Also...logically speeking, if you are just looking mech keyboard, this is probably not the most economic way to do it...

This is more of a "hobby" kinda thing....having the possiblity to customize it and make it just the way you want it

[tjcaustin]

That only goes up to $145 before stabilizers, case and keycaps. So also not sure where they got $300. It all depends on what case and keycaps you want.

Why not spend the extra for a sexy aluminum case?

[nebo]

That only goes up to $145 before stabilizers, case and keycaps. So also not sure where they got $300. It all depends on what case and keycaps you want.

Why not spend the extra for a sexy aluminum case?

I was just saying the base price, I fully intend to get the one in this thread so I hope the timing is right. I'm in this to get a good quality winkeyless board that I can program.

[TheQsanity]

Main thing you choose your layout and you can program it to do as you please.

YES!

LED: I hate bright LED, like the white, white ones. Blue is okay. I just like being blinded if anyone knows what I mean

[TheProfosist]

Main thing you choose your layout and you can program it to do as you please.

YES!

LED: I hate bright LED, like the white, white ones. Blue is okay. I just like being blinded if anyone knows what I mean

you can control their brightness via PWM I have mine as dimm as possible

[el2k]

Interested and green LED's <3

[KuhnTang]

If someone can organize other parts like plates/cases/switches etc that will be compatible with this board then I'd be in.  I just don't want to have to dig around all over the place and buy something that doesn't fit, I just don't trust myself.  And on the flip side, I don't want to just have a PCB collecting dust.  I'll leave it in the hands of all you more experienced people, if you can organize the other stuff consider me in.

[Acetrak]

You might want to take a look around. There are a lot of resources and good threads you can read up on so you understand what you're getting into. The chances of this GB including everything you need is not very high.

[tjcaustin]

To be fair, with the pcb GB starting, there's another gaining traction for a custom aluminum/acrylic case and another for plates (I think).

The only thing left to source would be switches, which you could get from 7bit if you had the patience of a really patient person or source through a donor board or even through wasd.

[bavman]

Okay guys, I think this will be much easier if we just voted on it:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFdpSkpCNWdpNHBzbEdabjA5YTlEdVE6MQ

[KuhnTang]

To be fair, with the pcb GB starting, there's another gaining traction for a custom aluminum/acrylic case and another for plates (I think).

The only thing left to source would be switches, which you could get from 7bit if you had the patience of a really patient person or source through a donor board or even through wasd.

Will all these parts be compatible?  I'm just worried that I'll get in on a group buy for something that I don't need.

Other than that I think I'm starting to like this idea a lot. 



Go ahead and count me in.  I'll figure the rest out later.

[nebo]

Okay guys, I think this will be much easier if we just voted on it:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFdpSkpCNWdpNHBzbEdabjA5YTlEdVE6MQ

Can you make it log user name in some way? Just checked and there would be no problem in multi voting (only voted once, just saying).

[hluo87]

might in!!!

[bavman]

Okay guys, I think this will be much easier if we just voted on it:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFdpSkpCNWdpNHBzbEdabjA5YTlEdVE6MQ

Can you make it log user name in some way? Just checked and there would be no problem in multi voting (only voted once, just saying).

Oops thanks for bringing that up. I cleared all responses, now it includes a username, please revote if you voted when there wasnt a username text box

[KuhnTang]

Yeah, I voted green, but I also like red and orange?  guess I'm not really that picky.  I just dont' want anything too bright.

BTW, any idea when this will transform from interest check to group buy?  Seems like there are a ton of people interested.

[bavman]

Yeah, I voted green, but I also like red and orange?  guess I'm not really that picky.  I just dont' want anything too bright.

BTW, any idea when this will transform from interest check to group buy?  Seems like there are a ton of people interested.

Very soon

[Leewei]

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38305.0 you can probably check this thread out if you need help with assembly and obtaining the right parts.

[alaricljs]

I just dont' want anything too bright.

Bigger resistors, and green is typically a bright LED.

[TheProfosist]

like i said before yo ucan control the led brightness using PWM the phantom is programmed and setup to do so.

[iArson]

Interested

[AriesX]

int

[jdcarpe]

So bavman, are we a go for doing these up in white PCB with black screen printing? Which LEDs won the poll?

[bavman]

I think were going to keep it black. It looks like orange is in front of white by 1 vote. But not that many people voted

[jdcarpe]

Ok, well that's good. We could just do an exact duplicate run, in that case. Black PCB with white LEDs.

[bavman]

GB is officially up: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.0

[Mangeun Ethan Jang]

Interested