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danielucf · « **Reply #1 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 09:32:04 »

I know new legends are $45 but new molds are considerably more expensive and would be required for this. That being said I love scoops and am interested.

Shadovved · « **Reply #2 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 09:32:44 »

What are scoops? And what are nubs?

singaporean123 · « **Reply #3 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 09:34:47 »

Quote from: Shadovved on Mon, 19 November 2012, 09:32:44

What are scoops? And what are nubs?

those dash thingys on your f and j keys that pop out

Shadovved · « **Reply #4 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 09:43:25 »

So are those poppy things nubs or scoops?

tsangan · « **Reply #5 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 09:45:46 »

I'm a fan of scoops but most people prefer the dots or line iirc

jeroplane · « **Reply #6 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 09:49:57 »

Quote from: Shadovved on Mon, 19 November 2012, 09:43:25

So are those poppy things nubs or scoops?

Scoops are when there's no raised part of the key, rather the curve of the keytop is more concave than the others. Original Cherry keys have scoops.

I like the way scoops hug my index fingers while they're resting on the home row.

But as danielucf said, don't know if SP would be willing to make new molds just for this.

esoomenona · « **Reply #7 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 09:50:15 »

esoomenona · « **Reply #8 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 09:51:46 »

Shadovved · « **Reply #9 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 09:52:34 »

Ah, I want scoops, these small bumps are not bumpy enough for me LOL.

Cant find them for nuts.

Alessandro · « **Reply #10 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 10:19:47 »

Scoops are amazing, I have the original Cherry ones and I love them!

jil_jil32 · « **Reply #11 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 10:23:37 »

Nah, I prefer the nubs / lines =P

alaricljs · « **Reply #12 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 10:53:14 »

Since it hasn't been voiced yet, here's my opinion...

I like no nubs or scoops... no physical difference at all

baldgye · « **Reply #13 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 13:26:48 »

I'd like all my caps to be scoops. That is all.

esoomenona · « **Reply #14 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 13:30:45 »

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #15 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 13:49:49 »

I've spoken with SP about various ideas at different times. They qouted me $700-1200 per mold depending on complexity and size. As long as there is no technical reason preventing them to be made I don't see why not as long as funds can be raised. I would be more interested in having new molds made to replace thier heinous bottom row on DCS however. I think these 2 things really should be done if Cherry replica doubleshots are ever to be made. Would be nice to get that much closer instead of halfassing it.

esoomenona · « **Reply #16 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 15:46:19 »

kmiller8 · « **Reply #17 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 15:55:57 »

mmmm scoops. I'd be down for chipping in to get molds made.

longweight · « **Reply #18 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 15:58:14 »

Why do people want these? I haven't ever found them to be useful or to make a difference.

SmallFry · « **Reply #19 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:04:53 »

SP doesn't make Topre caps, why does it bother you?

JK!
I prefer the scoops to lines/nipples, but that's just me.

jdcarpe · « **Reply #20 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:06:17 »

I like scoops.

I thought I read that new molds were about $4500 each. Maybe that was just for 7bit's spherical spacebar. But if there is enough interest, we can get it done. i3oilermaker did just that with the center stemmed stepped caps lock.

metalliqaz · « **Reply #21 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:07:35 »

I have scoops on my cherry caps and I hate them. Not enough of a difference for me to easily find the home keys. They are nice and smooth, though. I think my favorite is the center bump on old WYSE, which is even more noticeable than the more usual bar on the bottom of most modern keys. Of course I'd probably cave and buy a set of new scoops anyway, just to have them ready in case I learn to like them.

sth · « **Reply #22 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:19:54 »

i'm in for scoops! only need one mold...

theultrazord · « **Reply #23 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:27:03 »

Any chance to make these with the breaking bad meth caps? I'd really be in then.

Alessandro · « **Reply #24 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:29:27 »

If we get thsi running I'll be happy to do a bit of fundraising for the mold and other cherry replica stuff. There's some cherry fundraising caps that I've been dying to make for ages.

TheQsanity · « **Reply #25 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:32:33 »

Scoopty doop doops,

If we pay for the mold, technically wouldn't the mold be ours?

SP would need to ask us before they can use it fore one of their products, correct?

sth · « **Reply #26 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:34:33 »

oh yeah i forgot to mention...

i'm in to help with the cost as long as the mold is retained as community property.

asdf · « **Reply #27 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:35:44 »

This would be awesome if it gets rolling. Can't wait to try out scoop keys.

TheQsanity · « **Reply #28 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:37:15 »

Quote from: sth on Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:34:33

oh yeah i forgot to mention...

i'm in to help with the cost as long as the mold is retained as community property.

I think that would be best.

esoomenona · « **Reply #29 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:37:40 »

Alessandro · « **Reply #30 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:37:52 »

Agreed, I'm also happy to help!

alaricljs · « **Reply #31 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:47:46 »

167 people at $15 a head, that's just for the molds.

baldgye · « **Reply #32 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:50:22 »

$2500 for a mould that would produce keys that could be cut to any row?

sth · « **Reply #33 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:51:08 »

no for the f+j row that are scooped like cherry.

TheQsanity · « **Reply #34 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:55:15 »

That is not bad, I think if we get the satisfaction of owning 1/167 of that mold. Anyone else?

baldgye · « **Reply #35 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:55:51 »

Quote from: sth on Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:51:08

no for the f+j row that are scooped like cherry.

right, but if the mould was being cast for a new shape of cap, wouldn't it make more economic sense to allow for all the row's to be done? Or isn't that possible with how keys are produced (I have no idea).

jdcarpe · « **Reply #36 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:56:25 »

What you need to do is make a group buy for the scooped F and J keys, and split the tooling cost between all the participants.

alaricljs · « **Reply #37 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:59:42 »

Quote from: baldgye on Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:55:51

Quote from: sth on Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:51:08
no for the f+j row that are scooped like cherry.

right, but if the mould was being cast for a new shape of cap, wouldn't it make more economic sense to allow for all the row's to be done? Or isn't that possible with how keys are produced (I have no idea).

No, it's not possible. Each row has a different mold for 1x keys. (and then a different mold for keys with the nub/nipple/whatever).

baldgye · « **Reply #38 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 17:09:06 »

Quote from: alaricljs on Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:59:42

Quote from: baldgye on Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:55:51
Quote from: sth on Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:51:08
no for the f+j row that are scooped like cherry.

right, but if the mould was being cast for a new shape of cap, wouldn't it make more economic sense to allow for all the row's to be done? Or isn't that possible with how keys are produced (I have no idea).

No, it's not possible. Each row has a different mold for 1x keys. (and then a different mold for keys with the nub/nipple/whatever).

ah, that sucks

esoomenona · « **Reply #39 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 17:15:34 »

jdcarpe · « **Reply #40 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 17:55:29 »

I would be in for at least 2 sets of each of Ragnarok, CCnG, RA2.0, white on black, black on white, blue on grey (WYSE).

sth · « **Reply #41 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 17:58:32 »

in4 WYSE and CCnG

SmallFry · « **Reply #42 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 18:16:15 »

Agreed for Wyse those key caps are awesome...

The_Beast · « **Reply #43 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 19:57:19 »

What about waiting until after cherry font is done then do scoops?

sth · « **Reply #44 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 20:08:25 »

why wait?

yearn4 · « **Reply #45 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 20:12:13 »

valentine scoops!

danielucf · « **Reply #46 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 20:23:30 »

Scoop all the sets!!

I'm worried if there is anything special or different involved with double shooting with a scoop key. If you look at the underside of Cherry F and J keys you can tell that the insert with the legend is different from any of their other double shots. But if SP says they can do it then I'd hope they realize the legend to fit inside it would also have to conform to the scoop shape.

jeroplane · « **Reply #47 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 20:34:43 »

I'm all in for supporting this, hopefully there's enough people so that the mold price can be shared reasonably... Great point about the Cherry Replica though - scoops will mean that those sets will be even closer to the original.

Quote from: danielucf on Mon, 19 November 2012, 20:23:30

Scoop all the sets!!

I'm worried if there is anything special or different involved with double shooting with a scoop key. If you look at the underside of Cherry F and J keys you can tell that the insert with the legend is different from any of their other double shots. But if SP says they can do it then I'd hope they realize the legend to fit inside it would also have to conform to the scoop shape.

This is a good point... Surely Melissa factored in the cost of the first shot mold into that price?

esoomenona · « **Reply #48 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 20:46:10 »

guilleguillaume · « **Reply #49 on:** Mon, 19 November 2012, 20:56:28 »

Do you hace any picture to get an idea about what are you talking?

I mean, I have no idea how this would look O.o

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