Post by: zefyr on Tue, 31 May 2016, 01:53:34
Oddforge will continue support for VE.A in this thread.
Thank you geeks.
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* 2016/09/28
Added resource page on website.
http://oddforge.com/product/vea_resource
You can download Alps switch mounting plate example.
Note,
We cannot offer mounting plate layout design service. It's almost impossible.
If you are familiar with Alps, you know that already :)
We can offer basic layout only, which is in the example design file.
It uses one Apple Ext (M0115 or M3501) and one Standard (M0116) keysets.
So, please use it only you are familiar with Alps and CAD.
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* 2016/10/13
Quick Question About Price for B-stock.
- We will mark with small intentional dent on inside (totally invisible when assembled)
- Our MSRP is 450 USD, we will discount over 20% for B-stock. which will be around 350USD for Basic Kit + misc
---- Case, PCB, Plate
---- SATA cable, 3Lock LEDs with matching resistors (will not be pre-soldered) for your convenience.
- We will charge paypal fee to you.
- We will use EMS with tracking number. package weight is under 2.5kg (those who uses pounds, do your math by yourself)
----You can check your shipping cost at following link.
----http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal
- We will not accept any undervalue request.
How's this sounds?
Any good?
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* 2016/10/20
Announcement from oddforge
We set a mailing list for B-stock GB.
Subscribe it if you need to be notified at important events.
http://eepurl.com/ckXnGD (http://eepurl.com/ckXnGD)
* We will announce here, GH, as always *
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* 2016/11/06
Announcement from team oddforge
B-class stock GB schedule & process
- We will announce exact starting time at lease 48 hours before joining form opens. (time in KST, which is UTC+9 https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/kst (https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/kst))
- We will send you invoice within 24 hours, in order of GB form application.
- We will wait payment for 48 hours.
- If 48 hours exceeds, application will be canceled and and invoice will be avoided.
- We will charge shipping cost to you.
- We will charge paypal fee (3.9% + 0.3USD including shipping cost) to you.
- Kit price will be 349USD, includes 4 Aluminium parts, 2 Polycarbonate frames, 2 nameplates, PCB, bumpons, bolts, Black-titanium-coated switch mounting plate.
- We will ship package via EMS service with tracking number.
Thanks for your interest guys!
GB will be open within a week.
We are all set.
B-class stock photos
(http://i.imgur.com/KVRSuyY.jpg)
Color differency
(http://i.imgur.com/9805XGI.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/PiUGZK5.jpg)
B-class marking
(http://i.imgur.com/7qHGSwR.jpg)
Dent
(http://i.imgur.com/EDSE0zf.jpg)
Scratch
(http://i.imgur.com/lJvrrHj.jpg)
Uneven surface
(http://i.imgur.com/ARNBq0x.jpg)
Dent & uneven surface
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* 2016/11/07
Announcement from oddforge
B-stock GB will be starts at November 9, 02:00 PM KST
Korea Standard Time, KST November 09, 2016 14:00
Pacific Standard Time, PST November 08, 2016 21:00
Central Standard Time, CST November 08, 2016 23:00
Eastern Standard Time, EST November 09, 2016 00:00
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Western European Time, WET November 09, 2016 05:00
Central European Time, CET November 09, 2016 06:00
Time converter
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GB Application form URL
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Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 31 May 2016, 02:16:32
snip
I guess that's a pretty good way to organize things.
For those who require MX mount stabilizers for their ALPS keycaps how should one specify that and how would it be implemented?
Post by: zefyr on Tue, 31 May 2016, 02:20:03
snip
I guess that's a pretty good way to organize things.
For those who require MX mount stabilizers for their ALPS keycaps how should one specify that and how would it be implemented?
That's a really special case I think.
That is really order-made thing isn't it?
With alps plate, almost everything (position and stabilizers) will be described very well.
So, as you said, application form? really hard and it will cause confusion, (it will)
I'm just thinking about mail or bbs thing. it might better.
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 31 May 2016, 02:30:35
snip
I guess that's a pretty good way to organize things.
For those who require MX mount stabilizers for their ALPS keycaps how should one specify that and how would it be implemented?
That's a really special case I think.
That is really order-made thing isn't it?
With alps plate, almost everything (position and stabilizers) will be described very well.
So, as you said, application form? really hard and it will cause confusion, (it will)
I'm just thinking about mail or bbs thing. it might better.
Now the easiest visual representation is with the use of a plate generator made by swill (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0) which uses the layout editor you linked to generate files.
See? I generated a plate for an ALPS numpad with Cherry stabilizers!
(http://i.imgur.com/TQ0oSms.png)
Of course you would need to redraw an entirely new plate that fits in the VE.A but there is no confusion this way.
Post by: zefyr on Tue, 31 May 2016, 02:33:06
snip
I guess that's a pretty good way to organize things.
For those who require MX mount stabilizers for their ALPS keycaps how should one specify that and how would it be implemented?
That's a really special case I think.
That is really order-made thing isn't it?
With alps plate, almost everything (position and stabilizers) will be described very well.
So, as you said, application form? really hard and it will cause confusion, (it will)
I'm just thinking about mail or bbs thing. it might better.
Now the easiest visual representation is with the use of a plate generator made by swill (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0) which uses the layout editor you linked to generate files.
See? I generated a plate for an ALPS numpad with Cherry stabilizers!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TQ0oSms.png)
Of course you would need to redraw an entirely new plate that fits in the VE.A but there is no confusion this way.
AWESOME!!!
Thank you!
Post by: ipreferpie on Tue, 31 May 2016, 05:21:54
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Post by: Data on Tue, 31 May 2016, 07:57:15
Post by: xsolon on Tue, 31 May 2016, 09:58:00
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Tue, 31 May 2016, 11:42:31
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Tue, 31 May 2016, 12:07:47
Post by: Azzures on Tue, 31 May 2016, 15:42:51
Still hoping for a leftover pcb..
Wanted to buy a extra pcb and plate for myself, but ran out of money buying the whole kit, lol.
Post by: xsolon on Tue, 31 May 2016, 16:14:02
Post by: Vypr on Tue, 31 May 2016, 17:24:17
Why no black keycaps? The review on youtube even complains about the 'grey' -more like cream- color offered in the drop.
Wait, so the gray keycaps in the massdrop buy are the same ones in the youtube review? I thought those were the white keycaps when I placed my order in the beginning :(
Post by: jal on Tue, 31 May 2016, 20:44:21
I think you said somewhere in the other thread that having all LEDs installed in the switches pulled more current than an unpowered USB connection would handle. How much does it draw all lit up? Thanks!
Post by: krisst on Tue, 31 May 2016, 22:13:12
Why no black keycaps? The review on youtube even complains about the 'grey' -more like cream- color offered in the drop.
The black on black keycaps you might have seen are one of those carbon sets. There are a few sites that sell those. ABS or PBT. Hope you did not order those keycaps from MD and you can get some other keycaps that suits you more.
Post by: zefyr on Wed, 01 June 2016, 04:29:22
not in any rush, but still hoping to get CAD files for the plates. i would like to make an anodized aluminum set for mine
Working on it :)
Takes couple of weeks.
Post by: Data on Wed, 01 June 2016, 07:42:18
(http://i.imgur.com/onMOFMQ.png)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 01 June 2016, 08:14:12
Post by: krisst on Wed, 01 June 2016, 11:16:40
VE.A pixel art, since krisst wouldn't share his. :PShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/onMOFMQ.png)
:O Feel free to edit mine with the keycaps set you will be using. The carbon black version now is place holder. Still thinking which set to use. The spacebar area is an issue for most keyset.
Btw, your version looks awesome.
Post by: dubious on Wed, 01 June 2016, 12:03:40
VE.A pixel art, since krisst wouldn't share his. :PShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/onMOFMQ.png)
mmmmm that's the stuff ^-^
Post by: krisst on Thu, 02 June 2016, 10:17:44
About 2 months more to go before this awesome board get shipped to us. Meantime, would like to know what everyone have ordered, and reasons if any.
My order was dark grey with titanium plate. Pretty stealthy look. Already have black frame Filco and the incoming whitefox is silver. One of the reason why I did not order stabilizers on MD is because they mentioned a set of 8 stabilizers, which for VE.A, that's not enough. Even if they do ship more stabilizers, I would like to check out how the clear cherry stabilizers looks, with gold-plated stabs, should be pretty matching for Zealios. I know Zeal mentioned that he have his own clear cherry stabilizers coming soon. In any case, ordering from Taobao is cheaper than MD, even for switches. For example, 10 Gaterons switches cost about 1.5usd. Total shipping cost to ship to me is less than 6usd.
As for why I joined VE.A drop. Loved the look of it. I have always wanted a korean custom aka kustom. Most of them cost about 400+usd in total anyways. Aluminium casing and poly-carbonate are better quality materials. Acrylic cracks easily. VE.A is also a split keyboard, with RGB. Both of which are currently the trend. I read that ergonomic-wise might not be as good as those purpose build design and the good thing about VE.A is easier to get keycaps for it. Higher doubt that will change in the near future. Latest news, even Realforce are giving in to MX stem keycaps.
Feel free to post your thoughts.
Post by: jal on Thu, 02 June 2016, 10:36:41
[...] Meantime, would like to know what everyone have ordered, and reasons if any.
I went with black on black with Cherry browns. I'm looking for matte black front-etched caps, but haven't found those yet. May end up going blank, but have a
Threw in a spare PCB. I'm fairly handy with an iron, so I don't see a problem, but it is a spare until I know I don't need one, and then... well, I'm learning how to run a milling machine and have an idea for an absurd case. Of course, there are a bunch of other projects pending, so it might take me quite a while to get to that.
As for reasons, I'm just finishing building a rather high-end PC. This is related to learning metalwork - my primary machine is an six year old MBP that is still perfectly fine for what I do (mostly text editing, sshing elsewhere, writing/compiling software and the usual email/browsing), but now I need to run Autodesk Inventor, which is not exactly the most pleasant experience when running under Virtualbox on an old mac. So the new machine is an Xeon 1650, 64G ECC RAM, a 4 lane PCI 512G SSD, 16T worth of WD Greens I had laying around, and an Quadro K4000. (I'm really not that in to games.)
All in, once I decide on a couple of monitors and random add ons, this is going to be a $4K machine, and somehow buying an insanely expensive keyboard didn't feel as painful as it probably would have otherwise. So one way of looking at it is that it was a dumb impulse buy. Another other way is that this is the most I've ever dropped on a computer for myself[1], and getting something special for it seems appropriate. I'm going with the second interpretation.
[1] I'm a career-systems engineer, and have spent six figures of other people's money on machines, but have been using Mac laptops for myself for about the last 15 years.
Post by: krisst on Thu, 02 June 2016, 10:47:17
[...] Meantime, would like to know what everyone have ordered, and reasons if any.
I went with black on black with Cherry browns. I'm looking for matte black front-etched caps, but haven't found those yet. May end up going blank, but have aabout 11 yearscouple months figure that out. I'm going to install white LEDs. Obviously, the idea here is low-profile monochrome.
Have you checked out Geekkeys? I have a set from them Geekkeys Dark grey Dyesub Thick PBT (http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-dark-grey-dyesub-thick-pbt-full-keyset/). Side print set is here (http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-black-side-printed-thick-pbt-full-keyset/). Quality is good. Been using the set for 4-5 months until a few weeks ago, currently on Granite set.
This dark grey set will fit VE.A, just have to reuse right shift as right spacebar, and numpad 0 as left spacebar.
Post by: kenshinjeff on Thu, 02 June 2016, 10:55:32
Post by: krisst on Thu, 02 June 2016, 11:07:02
Oh? A another fellow singaporean? I got blacks with stabs myself, zealios ready, and clear stabs from taobao as well. Can't have too many stabs. I wonder if we have to go down singpost to pay tax for this. Massdrop ten day shipping is already killing me. Also, I canceled my whitefox : x
Hey! I read about the history of how whitefox came about before ordered it end of last year. It took about 2 years as the community share their ideas. Not my first mech, so no hurry to get it. About the stabs, hope the quality is good. About tax for VE.A, most prob will have to pay the 7 percent GST. Hope we don't have to XD
Post by: jal on Thu, 02 June 2016, 11:14:56
I went with black on black with Cherry browns. I'm looking for matte black front-etched caps, but haven't found those yet. May end up going blank, but have aabout 11 yearscouple months figure that out. I'm going to install white LEDs. Obviously, the idea here is low-profile monochrome.
Have you checked out Geekkeys? I have a set from them Geekkeys Dark grey Dyesub Thick PBT (http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-dark-grey-dyesub-thick-pbt-full-keyset/). Side print set is here (http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-black-side-printed-thick-pbt-full-keyset/). Quality is good. Been using the set for 4-5 months until a few weeks ago, currently on Granite set.
This dark grey set will fit VE.A, just have to reuse right shift as right spacebar, and numpad 0 as left spacebar.
Thanks for the pointer. I wish I could combine them - take the dark greys, move the printing to the side. If my perfect set doesn't magically materialize, I think the dark greys may be more appealing than blank.
Post by: ceflame on Thu, 02 June 2016, 12:48:40
Going to harvest some cherry mx silents from a strafe for the build since I'm getting tired of ergo clears after like 7 boards of them.
Post by: kenmai9 on Thu, 02 June 2016, 19:19:16
Please let me know if you would like to sell your purchase of VE.A. I would like to get in on it, but missed the deadline.
Thanks!
Post by: krisst on Thu, 02 June 2016, 20:52:10
Just posting here in case anyone who wants to sell their spot sees this!
Please let me know if you would like to sell your purchase of VE.A. I would like to get in on it, but missed the deadline.
Thanks!
Just over 100 buyers for this drop. Good luck getting a seller.
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Thu, 02 June 2016, 22:16:54
Post by: FrostyToast on Thu, 02 June 2016, 23:19:24
hoping to get a spare pcb along with my order. contacted massdrop the day it ended, but havent heard back yet... :/
Well the buy all has to go through Zefyr anyway who has already given his statements on such matters.
I doubt MD will be in control of that.
Post by: zefyr on Fri, 03 June 2016, 01:33:34
hoping to get a spare pcb along with my order. contacted massdrop the day it ended, but havent heard back yet... :/
Well the buy all has to go through Zefyr anyway who has already given his statements on such matters.
I doubt MD will be in control of that.
MD gather orders and money for VE.A and we just produce :)
We don't have any control of order process.
You should check MD for that.
Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 04 June 2016, 11:23:41
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Sun, 05 June 2016, 06:54:39
Still hoping for a leftover pcb..
Wanted to buy a extra pcb and plate for myself, but ran out of money buying the whole kit, lol.
i have to back out during the last minutes of the groupbuy because of other urgent reasons.
i wish i can buy the pcb only...
hoping to get a spare pcb along with my order. contacted massdrop the day it ended, but havent heard back yet... :/
Well the buy all has to go through Zefyr anyway who has already given his statements on such matters.
I doubt MD will be in control of that.
MD gather orders and money for VE.A and we just produce :)
We don't have any control of order process.
You should check MD for that.
well, you could produce another 1 or 2 and send one of them to me :p
...
i really should contact massdrop instead huh?
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Sun, 05 June 2016, 14:28:34
Still hoping for a leftover pcb..
Wanted to buy a extra pcb and plate for myself, but ran out of money buying the whole kit, lol.
i have to back out during the last minutes of the groupbuy because of other urgent reasons.
i wish i can buy the pcb only...hoping to get a spare pcb along with my order. contacted massdrop the day it ended, but havent heard back yet... :/
Well the buy all has to go through Zefyr anyway who has already given his statements on such matters.
I doubt MD will be in control of that.
MD gather orders and money for VE.A and we just produce :)
We don't have any control of order process.
You should check MD for that.
well, you could produce another 1 or 2 and send one of them to me :p
...
i really should contact massdrop instead huh?
i did contact massdrop, and got the usual "we already sent the order, sorry you're SOL" of course, it took them 4 days to return my message, and they might have been able to add it on to the order if they got back to me in time. anyway, it still doesnt seem like this would be impossible. zephyr, do you have any advice on this? are we just too late?
i am hoping to get an aluminum plate cut, and use the second set of pcbs with the aluminum plate
Post by: zefyr on Mon, 06 June 2016, 23:56:33
Still hoping for a leftover pcb..
Wanted to buy a extra pcb and plate for myself, but ran out of money buying the whole kit, lol.
i have to back out during the last minutes of the groupbuy because of other urgent reasons.
i wish i can buy the pcb only...hoping to get a spare pcb along with my order. contacted massdrop the day it ended, but havent heard back yet... :/
Well the buy all has to go through Zefyr anyway who has already given his statements on such matters.
I doubt MD will be in control of that.
MD gather orders and money for VE.A and we just produce :)
We don't have any control of order process.
You should check MD for that.
well, you could produce another 1 or 2 and send one of them to me :p
...
i really should contact massdrop instead huh?
i did contact massdrop, and got the usual "we already sent the order, sorry you're SOL" of course, it took them 4 days to return my message, and they might have been able to add it on to the order if they got back to me in time. anyway, it still doesnt seem like this would be impossible. zephyr, do you have any advice on this? are we just too late?
i am hoping to get an aluminum plate cut, and use the second set of pcbs with the aluminum plate
Well, with massdrop, we just produce what massdrop got. So, at this point, there is nothing I can do.
Sorry about that :(
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Tue, 07 June 2016, 03:45:08
Thanks for the answer, zefyr!
Post by: jal on Fri, 10 June 2016, 20:18:17
For the cap LEDs, in the other thread, Zefyr said 910-ohm resistors were going to be needed. That was for red LEDs. I haven't decided if I'm going with RGB or plain white. Will these work?
https://www.westfloridacomponents.com/RES1429/910+ohm+1%26%2337%3B+1206+Surface+Mount+Resistor.html
Thanks in advance for the clue-provisioning.
Post by: FrostyToast on Sat, 11 June 2016, 00:37:52
I'm starting to collect parts in antici- (Say it!) -pation.
For the cap LEDs, in the other thread, Zefyr said 910-ohm resistors were going to be needed. That was for red LEDs. I haven't decided if I'm going with RGB or plain white. Will these work?
https://www.westfloridacomponents.com/RES1429/910+ohm+1%26%2337%3B+1206+Surface+Mount+Resistor.html
Thanks in advance for the clue-provisioning.
1k is pretty good for anything really.
The only difference is going to be the brightness of the LEDs.
I don't know if there is brightness control but if there is then you should be fine with 1k.
Though I forget if lighting higher up on the spectrum requires higher or lower impedance.
Post by: jal on Sat, 11 June 2016, 00:48:38
Post by: zefyr on Sat, 11 June 2016, 18:00:20
I'm starting to collect parts in antici- (Say it!) -pation.
For the cap LEDs, in the other thread, Zefyr said 910-ohm resistors were going to be needed. That was for red LEDs. I haven't decided if I'm going with RGB or plain white. Will these work?
https://www.westfloridacomponents.com/RES1429/910+ohm+1%26%2337%3B+1206+Surface+Mount+Resistor.html
Thanks in advance for the clue-provisioning.
It's not "needed", I suggest 910 will works fine with most of LEDs.
We are checking several options for that.
Post by: MajorKoos on Sat, 11 June 2016, 18:15:19
I'm starting to collect parts in antici- (Say it!) -pation.
For the cap LEDs, in the other thread, Zefyr said 910-ohm resistors were going to be needed. That was for red LEDs. I haven't decided if I'm going with RGB or plain white. Will these work?
https://www.westfloridacomponents.com/RES1429/910+ohm+1%26%2337%3B+1206+Surface+Mount+Resistor.html
Thanks in advance for the clue-provisioning.
It's not "needed", I suggest 910 will works fine with most of LEDs.
We are checking several options for that.
Is it possible to put RGB LEDs under the switches?
I thought we were limited to a single color there?
Post by: krisst on Sat, 11 June 2016, 22:28:11
I'm starting to collect parts in antici- (Say it!) -pation.
For the cap LEDs, in the other thread, Zefyr said 910-ohm resistors were going to be needed. That was for red LEDs. I haven't decided if I'm going with RGB or plain white. Will these work?
https://www.westfloridacomponents.com/RES1429/910+ohm+1%26%2337%3B+1206+Surface+Mount+Resistor.html
Thanks in advance for the clue-provisioning.
It's not "needed", I suggest 910 will works fine with most of LEDs.
We are checking several options for that.
Is it possible to put RGB LEDs under the switches?
I thought we were limited to a single color there?
In-switch only support single colour LED. The board will come with RGB smd for lighting up the poly-carbonate layer. Someone must have been confused.
Post by: jal on Sat, 11 June 2016, 22:32:07
Someone must have been confused.
That would be me. Nothing new there; confusion is my way of life.
Please continue carrying on.
Post by: FrostyToast on Sat, 11 June 2016, 23:40:07
Just connect more RGB LEDs to the existing RGB joints in parallel and reduce the impedance.
You probably can't get that many more LEDs going on but you could get some pretty intense stuff going on like that.
Post by: E3E on Sun, 12 June 2016, 02:44:04
I'm in the same boat wanting alps keys with MX stabilzers too :)
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And I thought I was the only one who did this. :P
You know, you can get the proper Matias stabs for MX-stabilized keys and use that on a plate with normal Alps stabs, right (you don't need Costar or Cherry)? I mainly used Cherry stabs out of necessity since I used universal 60% plates not specifically designed for Alps with my Eagle builds and so I had to use PCB mount Cherry stabs. For my NCR build of the Leeku 3000 PCB, I used Cherry stabs more out of preference and because I had enough left to work with. Cutting those positions sucked.
(http://i.imgur.com/DdPscvM.jpg)
As you can see, even some vintage boards that used cruciform stab mounts used a stab insert that was compatible with normal Alps stabilizers. So to make it easier on everyone, you could just find the Matias stabs that are of this design and use those unless it's just a matter of preference.
(http://i.imgur.com/saqb2IE.jpg)
Example of the Eagle with universal plate, which is why Cherry stabs were needed.
Here are Cherry examples with the NCR build:
More
(http://i.imgur.com/YnaP0Hz.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/pjpSmrS.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/yTZpkSo.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/pjpSmrS.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/yTZpkSo.jpg)
Hidden for image spam and terrible photo quality. :P
Post by: krisst on Sun, 12 June 2016, 03:26:41
Someone must have been confused.
That would be me. Nothing new there; confusion is my way of life.
Please continue carrying on.
XD I would suggest that you use sip-sockets for the in-switch LEDs, so that you can change them out to other colours when you want to.
Post by: Azzures on Mon, 13 June 2016, 13:06:55
Someone must have been confused.
That would be me. Nothing new there; confusion is my way of life.
Please continue carrying on.
XD I would suggest that you use sip-sockets for the in-switch LEDs, so that you can change them out to other colours when you want to.
I just tried doing that with my ergodox keyboard. I really need to improve my success rate >.>
Post by: MandrewDavis on Mon, 13 June 2016, 13:45:50
Post by: Data on Tue, 14 June 2016, 07:42:51
This might be a really dumb question, but with a custom plate, would it be possible to mod the PCB (by jumping traces etc.) to combine the 2.75x space bar and a 1.25x modifier to accommodate a 4x SA spacebar? Same with the 2x space and 1x FN key to have a 3x spacebar.
Not sure why you would mod the PCB for this. The board is fully programmable so you would just set one of the two switches to [null] and the other to [space]. The problems would come in modding your 4u cap to fit across both switches (and stabilizers, if you choose) and then getting used to the strange feeling. I've never used a key that spanned 2 switches but at least one person (in the other thread) has said it does work. Without the stabilizer wire it's impossible for both switches to actuate precisely at the same time, so the key would likely feel a little wobbly depending on where and how you're hitting it. Personally, it sounds like not a very good idea.
Post by: MajorKoos on Tue, 14 June 2016, 10:04:08
This might be a really dumb question, but with a custom plate, would it be possible to mod the PCB (by jumping traces etc.) to combine the 2.75x space bar and a 1.25x modifier to accommodate a 4x SA spacebar? Same with the 2x space and 1x FN key to have a 3x spacebar.
Not sure why you would mod the PCB for this. The board is fully programmable so you would just set one of the two switches to [null] and the other to [space]. The problems would come in modding your 4u cap to fit across both switches (and stabilizers, if you choose) and then getting used to the strange feeling. I've never used a key that spanned 2 switches but at least one person (in the other thread) has said it does work. Without the stabilizer wire it's impossible for both switches to actuate precisely at the same time, so the key would likely feel a little wobbly depending on where and how you're hitting it. Personally, it sounds like not a very good idea.
I took a look at a picture of the board - there aren't any additional holes in the PCB to support those key sizes.
Either it's the double key thing - not wild about it either - or drilling your own hole for the 4u key and jumping the traces. If this were a $40 GH60 - sure, but a $500 Korean custom?
It's getting hold of 2.5u, 3u and 4u keys which is the real issue and I expect the driving reason for the bottom row layout.
Post by: zefyr on Wed, 15 June 2016, 01:05:18
This might be a really dumb question, but with a custom plate, would it be possible to mod the PCB (by jumping traces etc.) to combine the 2.75x space bar and a 1.25x modifier to accommodate a 4x SA spacebar? Same with the 2x space and 1x FN key to have a 3x spacebar.
Not sure why you would mod the PCB for this. The board is fully programmable so you would just set one of the two switches to [null] and the other to [space]. The problems would come in modding your 4u cap to fit across both switches (and stabilizers, if you choose) and then getting used to the strange feeling. I've never used a key that spanned 2 switches but at least one person (in the other thread) has said it does work. Without the stabilizer wire it's impossible for both switches to actuate precisely at the same time, so the key would likely feel a little wobbly depending on where and how you're hitting it. Personally, it sounds like not a very good idea.
I took a look at a picture of the board - there aren't any additional holes in the PCB to support those key sizes.
Either it's the double key thing - not wild about it either - or drilling your own hole for the 4u key and jumping the traces. If this were a $40 GH60 - sure, but a $500 Korean custom?
It's getting hold of 2.5u, 3u and 4u keys which is the real issue and I expect the driving reason for the bottom row layout.
OK, guys.
This is custom keyboard kit.
Which means, do what you want to do on this kit is just on you.
As a designer of VE.A, I do not suggest modify PCB in that way, even if you succeeded modify PCB, you havo to modify(or produce) plate also.
But as a custom enthusiast? HELL YES, PLEASE DO THAT! That sound awesome!
And this is just a question, is there such bottom key(3x you say?) on market?
VE.A's layout is designed for standard ANSI layout keysets coverage.
Post by: MandrewDavis on Wed, 15 June 2016, 03:17:50
This might be a really dumb question, but with a custom plate, would it be possible to mod the PCB (by jumping traces etc.) to combine the 2.75x space bar and a 1.25x modifier to accommodate a 4x SA spacebar? Same with the 2x space and 1x FN key to have a 3x spacebar.MoreNot sure why you would mod the PCB for this. The board is fully programmable so you would just set one of the two switches to [null] and the other to [space]. The problems would come in modding your 4u cap to fit across both switches (and stabilizers, if you choose) and then getting used to the strange feeling. I've never used a key that spanned 2 switches but at least one person (in the other thread) has said it does work. Without the stabilizer wire it's impossible for both switches to actuate precisely at the same time, so the key would likely feel a little wobbly depending on where and how you're hitting it. Personally, it sounds like not a very good idea.MoreI took a look at a picture of the board - there aren't any additional holes in the PCB to support those key sizes.
Either it's the double key thing - not wild about it either - or drilling your own hole for the 4u key and jumping the traces. If this were a $40 GH60 - sure, but a $500 Korean custom?
It's getting hold of 2.5u, 3u and 4u keys which is the real issue and I expect the driving reason for the bottom row layout.
OK, guys.
This is custom keyboard kit.
Which means, do what you want to do on this kit is just on you.
As a designer of VE.A, I do not suggest modify PCB in that way, even if you succeeded modify PCB, you havo to modify(or produce) plate also.
But as a custom enthusiast? HELL YES, PLEASE DO THAT! That sound awesome!
And this is just a question, is there such bottom key(3x you say?) on market?
VE.A's layout is designed for standard ANSI layout keysets coverage.
Am planning on pairing this board with The Amazing Chocolatier SA keycap set, and saw it planned to offer 2x, 3x, and 4x spacebars like Modern Selectric did.
Was just a thought guys, I don't have the balls to go try it on this tier of keyboard :'(
But I am going to fabricate a custom case to go with that extra PCB, so plate-mounted stabs with custom bent wire wouldn't have been out the question...
Post by: Data on Wed, 15 June 2016, 08:48:29
This might be a really dumb question, but with a custom plate, would it be possible to mod the PCB (by jumping traces etc.) to combine the 2.75x space bar and a 1.25x modifier to accommodate a 4x SA spacebar? Same with the 2x space and 1x FN key to have a 3x spacebar.
Not sure why you would mod the PCB for this. The board is fully programmable so you would just set one of the two switches to [null] and the other to [space]. The problems would come in modding your 4u cap to fit across both switches (and stabilizers, if you choose) and then getting used to the strange feeling. I've never used a key that spanned 2 switches but at least one person (in the other thread) has said it does work. Without the stabilizer wire it's impossible for both switches to actuate precisely at the same time, so the key would likely feel a little wobbly depending on where and how you're hitting it. Personally, it sounds like not a very good idea.
I took a look at a picture of the board - there aren't any additional holes in the PCB to support those key sizes.
Either it's the double key thing - not wild about it either - or drilling your own hole for the 4u key and jumping the traces. If this were a $40 GH60 - sure, but a $500 Korean custom?
It's getting hold of 2.5u, 3u and 4u keys which is the real issue and I expect the driving reason for the bottom row layout.
I think of all the parts in this keyboard the PCB is the very last one you'd want to mod. But what you described should technically be possible, if also incredibly risky. It's a novel idea anyway.
Post by: rcordeau on Wed, 15 June 2016, 11:51:28
Thanks,
Rob
Post by: MajorKoos on Thu, 16 June 2016, 13:19:13
This might be a really dumb question, but with a custom plate, would it be possible to mod the PCB (by jumping traces etc.) to combine the 2.75x space bar and a 1.25x modifier to accommodate a 4x SA spacebar? Same with the 2x space and 1x FN key to have a 3x spacebar.
Not sure why you would mod the PCB for this. The board is fully programmable so you would just set one of the two switches to [null] and the other to [space]. The problems would come in modding your 4u cap to fit across both switches (and stabilizers, if you choose) and then getting used to the strange feeling. I've never used a key that spanned 2 switches but at least one person (in the other thread) has said it does work. Without the stabilizer wire it's impossible for both switches to actuate precisely at the same time, so the key would likely feel a little wobbly depending on where and how you're hitting it. Personally, it sounds like not a very good idea.
I took a look at a picture of the board - there aren't any additional holes in the PCB to support those key sizes.
Either it's the double key thing - not wild about it either - or drilling your own hole for the 4u key and jumping the traces. If this were a $40 GH60 - sure, but a $500 Korean custom?
It's getting hold of 2.5u, 3u and 4u keys which is the real issue and I expect the driving reason for the bottom row layout.
I think of all the parts in this keyboard the PCB is the very last one you'd want to mod. But what you described should technically be possible, if also incredibly risky. It's a novel idea anyway.
Yup, there's a fine line between brave and stupid.
Post by: zefyr on Thu, 16 June 2016, 21:12:54
Sorry to post here, but I thought I'd at least try. I got in on the drop, but due to credit card number theft, the purchase was declined. So I missed out on the drop and Massdrop couldn't accommodate adding me back. So, might there be any way to get one of these keyboards? Any extras being built for "just in case"?
Thanks,
Rob
Sorry to hear that.
Unfortunately there's nothing I can to right now.
There will be some leftovers after GB ends, I'll sell those at kbdlab market.
Maybe you can join then, but I cannot guarantee since it's really limited quantity (11~12).
Hope you can fix it up.
Post by: zefyr on Thu, 16 June 2016, 21:36:37
Yup, there's a fine line between brave and stupid.
It's like my motto.
"I'm brave cause I'm stupid."
Under that motto,
I was stupid that I built a hand wired keyboard. (... was fun, but NO MORE)
(http://i.imgur.com/L3AUPU1.jpg)
So, I learned how to draw PCB.
(http://i.imgur.com/SmESTQx.jpg)
I learned how to draw acrylic case.
(http://i.imgur.com/Jk8RRIs.jpg)
I learned how to draw aluminium case.
(http://i.imgur.com/5gxyoDe.jpg)
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Thu, 16 June 2016, 22:48:08
Post by: Marshal on Fri, 17 June 2016, 00:53:16
Post by: MajorKoos on Fri, 17 June 2016, 06:45:23
Yup, there's a fine line between brave and stupid.
It's like my motto.
"I'm brave cause I'm stupid."
Under that motto,
I was stupid that I built a hand wired keyboard. (... was fun, but NO MORE)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/L3AUPU1.jpg)
So, I learned how to draw PCB.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/SmESTQx.jpg)
I learned how to draw acrylic case.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Jk8RRIs.jpg)
I learned how to draw aluminium case.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5gxyoDe.jpg)
That was a really informative set of pics - thank you.
I'm really impressed with how you prototyped the first one in the series - I need to learn how to do that.
On a similar note, what's your preferred protocol for connecting the two halves? SPI?
Post by: jal on Fri, 17 June 2016, 10:54:20
In other, tenuously related news, does anyone know of a custom SATA cable maker? I may have missed it, but didn't see any in the artisan section, and Google was less than helpful.
Post by: Vypr on Fri, 17 June 2016, 12:58:30
That's a truly inspiring sequence of photos. Thanks for sharing that.
In other, tenuously related news, does anyone know of a custom SATA cable maker? I may have missed it, but didn't see any in the artisan section, and Google was less than helpful.
Pexon's store page has a listing for SATA cables under the PC cables section
http://pexonpcs.co.uk/products/sata-3-6gbps-data-cables?variant=839012899 (http://pexonpcs.co.uk/products/sata-3-6gbps-data-cables?variant=839012899)
Post by: zefyr on Sun, 19 June 2016, 05:02:07
Yup, there's a fine line between brave and stupid.
It's like my motto.
"I'm brave cause I'm stupid."
Under that motto,
I was stupid that I built a hand wired keyboard. (... was fun, but NO MORE)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/L3AUPU1.jpg)
So, I learned how to draw PCB.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/SmESTQx.jpg)
I learned how to draw acrylic case.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Jk8RRIs.jpg)
I learned how to draw aluminium case.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5gxyoDe.jpg)
That was a really informative set of pics - thank you.
I'm really impressed with how you prototyped the first one in the series - I need to learn how to do that.
On a similar note, what's your preferred protocol for connecting the two halves? SPI?
It's TWI. As known as I2C.
Post by: zefyr on Sun, 19 June 2016, 05:03:29
That's a truly inspiring sequence of photos. Thanks for sharing that.
In other, tenuously related news, does anyone know of a custom SATA cable maker? I may have missed it, but didn't see any in the artisan section, and Google was less than helpful.
Surf for PC customizing communities. They uses awesome cables.
Post by: krisst on Mon, 27 June 2016, 01:22:33
Link to the product page http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Purple-Sleeved-18-inch-Premium-6Gb-s-SATA3-DATA-cable-w-Gold-Plated-latch-Locking-for/32667583249.html
(http://i.imgur.com/AHGWzXJ.jpg)
Post by: Data on Mon, 27 June 2016, 07:28:09
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 27 June 2016, 09:22:00
Post by: zefyr on Mon, 27 June 2016, 23:34:47
Ordered and received one SATA 3.0 cable from aliexpress, cost 4 bucks with shipping. 18 inches. Purple sleeved with black and gold connector. Sadly, I just checked, the product is no longer available.
Link to the product page http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Purple-Sleeved-18-inch-Premium-6Gb-s-SATA3-DATA-cable-w-Gold-Plated-latch-Locking-for/32667583249.htmlShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/AHGWzXJ.jpg)
N w i c e!
Post by: zefyr on Thu, 30 June 2016, 23:41:24
All in-switch LED's resistors will be pre-soldered with 910ohm.
Post by: Data on Fri, 01 July 2016, 07:46:53
Announcement from oddforge
All in-switch LED's resistors will be pre-soldered with 910ohm.
Seems high. That would bring white LEDs down to around 2mA current and red LEDs down to around 3.5mA. That's only 10-18% of the LED's rated output. I hope that's bright enough to even bother. :-X
Post by: Jaceun on Fri, 01 July 2016, 11:55:08
Announcement from oddforge
All in-switch LED's resistors will be pre-soldered with 910ohm.
I have a noob question, since I'm starting to gather materials for this build and I've never assembled a keyboard before.
Will we be able to toggle the in-switch LEDs on/off, or adjust their brightness, that sort of thing? That will help me decide if I'm going to include them in my build.
In any case, the pre-soldering is blessing to noobs like me - Thanks Zefyr!
Post by: zefyr on Sun, 03 July 2016, 23:25:09
Announcement from oddforge
All in-switch LED's resistors will be pre-soldered with 910ohm.
Seems high. That would bring white LEDs down to around 2mA current and red LEDs down to around 3.5mA. That's only 10-18% of the LED's rated output. I hope that's bright enough to even bother. :-X
Agreed, it's high resistor. We tested with several resistors and 910 was stable for any settings.
With RGB LEDs on, brightness will be reduced automatically by firmware.
Post by: dubious on Wed, 06 July 2016, 18:38:57
I had a couple questions I couldn't find information on. I haven't seen any pictures of the underside of the keyboard, and was curious what it looked like. But I really wanted to know if this keyboard supports additional screw-on feet? (specifically the ones avail on massdrop) I've only seen pictures of the keyboard laying flat (without the tent)
Massdrop link: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/anodized-cnc-aluminum-cone-feet
Also is a SATA 3 cable required to join the two halves? I'm assuming SATA 2 is fine since there is no mention of 3.
Thanks! excited to see this board in the mail :D
Post by: zefyr on Wed, 06 July 2016, 23:39:44
Hi Vermillion!
I had a couple questions I couldn't find information on. I haven't seen any pictures of the underside of the keyboard, and was curious what it looked like. But I really wanted to know if this keyboard supports additional screw-on feet? (specifically the ones avail on massdrop) I've only seen pictures of the keyboard laying flat (without the tent)
Massdrop link: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/anodized-cnc-aluminum-cone-feet
Also is a SATA 3 cable required to join the two halves? I'm assuming SATA 2 is fine since there is no mention of 3.
Thanks! excited to see this board in the mail :D
There is no hole for screw under bottom side. If you want to attach it, you have to use double-sided tape or glue, (or drill)
And any SATA cable will works.
Post by: dubious on Thu, 07 July 2016, 11:34:09
Hi Vermillion!
I had a couple questions I couldn't find information on. I haven't seen any pictures of the underside of the keyboard, and was curious what it looked like. But I really wanted to know if this keyboard supports additional screw-on feet? (specifically the ones avail on massdrop) I've only seen pictures of the keyboard laying flat (without the tent)
Massdrop link: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/anodized-cnc-aluminum-cone-feet
Also is a SATA 3 cable required to join the two halves? I'm assuming SATA 2 is fine since there is no mention of 3.
Thanks! excited to see this board in the mail :D
There is no hole for screw under bottom side. If you want to attach it, you have to use double-sided tape or glue, (or drill)
And any SATA cable will works.
Thanks!!
Post by: krisst on Mon, 11 July 2016, 02:39:06
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Purple-Sleeved-18-inch-Premium-6Gb-s-SATA3-DATA-cable-w-Gold-Plated-latch-Locking-for/32667583249.html
Post by: zefyr on Thu, 21 July 2016, 01:49:38
As Massdrop announcement today, VE.A's schedule is delayed.
We found noticible scratches at final quality check.
This is very painful but we decided to go for re-production.
It will take another month. So shipping will be delayed for a while.
We will update process more often from now.
You can see detailes at massdrop.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ve-a/talk/474880
We have no words to make this better, instead say something we will work harder.
Post by: juahenza on Thu, 21 July 2016, 02:05:08
Announcement from oddforge
As Massdrop announcement today, VE.A's schedule is delayed.
We found noticible scratches at final quality check.
This is very painful but we decided to go for re-production.
It will take another month. So shipping will be delayed for a while.
We will update process more often from now.
You can see detailes at massdrop.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ve-a/talk/474880
We have no words to make this better, instead say something we will work harder.
Great attitude! I don't mind waiting at all! Appreciate that you guys actually paying attention to the details, even its a large amount of orders.
Thanks for ensuring us the buyers get the top notch final product! Respect :thumb:
Post by: SixtyLife on Thu, 21 July 2016, 03:25:43
Announcement from oddforgepossible to buy scratched units as b-stock?
As Massdrop announcement today, VE.A's schedule is delayed.
We found noticible scratches at final quality check.
This is very painful but we decided to go for re-production.
It will take another month. So shipping will be delayed for a while.
We will update process more often from now.
You can see detailes at massdrop.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ve-a/talk/474880
We have no words to make this better, instead say something we will work harder.
Post by: MajorKoos on Thu, 21 July 2016, 05:53:04
Announcement from oddforge
As Massdrop announcement today, VE.A's schedule is delayed.
We found noticible scratches at final quality check.
This is very painful but we decided to go for re-production.
It will take another month. So shipping will be delayed for a while.
We will update process more often from now.
You can see detailes at massdrop.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ve-a/talk/474880
We have no words to make this better, instead say something we will work harder.
I appreciate the care you're taking to ensure we get a top notch product and the tough choice you had to make.
All good man. All good.
Post by: redbanshee on Thu, 21 July 2016, 10:47:11
possible to buy scratched units as b-stock?
Would like to know this as well :thumb:
Post by: MajorKoos on Thu, 21 July 2016, 13:05:33
possible to buy scratched units as b-stock?
Would like to know this as well :thumb:
Me three.
I ordered silver with the intent of re-anodizing, so definitely interested.
Post by: clappingcactus on Thu, 21 July 2016, 18:32:03
possible to buy scratched units as b-stock?
Same question. Willing to pay pretty much retail (unless the damage is actually SIGNIFICANT) for b-stock. Let us know.
Post by: Hexterdude on Thu, 21 July 2016, 21:22:26
Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk
Post by: Jedi on Thu, 21 July 2016, 23:00:47
We found noticible scratches at final quality check.
This is very painful but we decided to go for re-production.
Also interested in purchasing one of the scratched cases. If available, please PM.
Post by: Data on Fri, 22 July 2016, 06:28:03
Since the drop is being delayed is it possible to add more orders?
Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk
Production is delayed.
The drop is over.
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Fri, 22 July 2016, 08:42:50
possible to buy scratched units as b-stock?
Would like to know this as well :thumb:
Me three.
I ordered silver with the intent of re-anodizing, so definitely interested.
me four.
Post by: hkf on Fri, 22 July 2016, 20:06:52
Post by: shangrila500 on Sat, 23 July 2016, 20:38:31
I was just looking over the VE.A build guide posted on Oddforge and was fine until I got to "C. In-Switch LED Assembly" step 3. I have never dealt with selecting the Lock LED mode, haven't even heard of it. Can anyone explain what it is and what the proper way to set it up is? I will have in switch LEDs and the switches will be SIP socketed so I can change the LEDs when the mood strikes.
Would the Full-LED mode be all in-switch LEDs lit at all times? If so what is Lock-LED mode?
In case someone doesn't understand my question or needs more info the VE.A assembly guide is here (http://oddforge.com/product/vea_assembly) and the part I am having trouble grasping is part C, step 3.
Post by: hkf on Sat, 23 July 2016, 20:56:15
Quick question.
I was just looking over the VE.A build guide posted on Oddforge and was fine until I got to "C. In-Switch LED Assembly" step 3. I have never dealt with selecting the Lock LED mode, haven't even heard of it. Can anyone explain what it is and what the proper way to set it up is? I will have in switch LEDs and the switches will be SIP socketed so I can change the LEDs when the mood strikes.
Would the Full-LED mode be all in-switch LEDs lit at all times? If so what is Lock-LED mode?
In case someone doesn't understand my question or needs more info the VE.A assembly guide is here (http://oddforge.com/product/vea_assembly) and the part I am having trouble grasping is part C, step 3.
those 2 are for scroll lock and numlock indicators. If you connect the F and middle, it will be a full LED on that in switch LED (acts like any other switch LED). If you connect the L and the middle, it will be a lock LED for that one (ie, numlock and scroll lock indicators).
But I don't know why those keys has this functionality, when there are indicator LEDs already on the pcb as circled in red: (http://i.imgur.com/I7X51TG.png)
Maybe you can use the 3 Lock LEDs I indicated as FN layer indicators instead, and use those 2 as Num/Scr Lock... but I didn't do that with my build :)
Post by: shangrila500 on Sun, 24 July 2016, 21:05:30
Quick question.
I was just looking over the VE.A build guide posted on Oddforge and was fine until I got to "C. In-Switch LED Assembly" step 3. I have never dealt with selecting the Lock LED mode, haven't even heard of it. Can anyone explain what it is and what the proper way to set it up is? I will have in switch LEDs and the switches will be SIP socketed so I can change the LEDs when the mood strikes.
Would the Full-LED mode be all in-switch LEDs lit at all times? If so what is Lock-LED mode?
In case someone doesn't understand my question or needs more info the VE.A assembly guide is here (http://oddforge.com/product/vea_assembly) and the part I am having trouble grasping is part C, step 3.
those 2 are for scroll lock and numlock indicators. If you connect the F and middle, it will be a full LED on that in switch LED (acts like any other switch LED). If you connect the L and the middle, it will be a lock LED for that one (ie, numlock and scroll lock indicators).
But I don't know why those keys has this functionality, when there are indicator LEDs already on the pcb as circled in red:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/I7X51TG.png)
Maybe you can use the 3 Lock LEDs I indicated as FN layer indicators instead, and use those 2 as Num/Scr Lock... but I didn't do that with my build :)
Ahhhh, ok. That makes sense. Thank you for the answer. Maybe ZeFyr will have the time to explain why those are there since the PCB already has indicator LEDs......
Post by: zefyr on Mon, 25 July 2016, 00:24:20
Quick question.
I was just looking over the VE.A build guide posted on Oddforge and was fine until I got to "C. In-Switch LED Assembly" step 3. I have never dealt with selecting the Lock LED mode, haven't even heard of it. Can anyone explain what it is and what the proper way to set it up is? I will have in switch LEDs and the switches will be SIP socketed so I can change the LEDs when the mood strikes.
Would the Full-LED mode be all in-switch LEDs lit at all times? If so what is Lock-LED mode?
In case someone doesn't understand my question or needs more info the VE.A assembly guide is here (http://oddforge.com/product/vea_assembly) and the part I am having trouble grasping is part C, step 3.
those 2 are for scroll lock and numlock indicators. If you connect the F and middle, it will be a full LED on that in switch LED (acts like any other switch LED). If you connect the L and the middle, it will be a lock LED for that one (ie, numlock and scroll lock indicators).
But I don't know why those keys has this functionality, when there are indicator LEDs already on the pcb as circled in red:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/I7X51TG.png)
Maybe you can use the 3 Lock LEDs I indicated as FN layer indicators instead, and use those 2 as Num/Scr Lock... but I didn't do that with my build :)
Ahhhh, ok. That makes sense. Thank you for the answer. Maybe ZeFyr will have the time to explain why those are there since the PCB already has indicator LEDs......
Not a fancy reason :)
It's for custom case builders option. But I didn't published reference case design, there's no custom(custom over custom haha) case yet.
Post by: shangrila500 on Mon, 25 July 2016, 00:51:21
Quick question.
I was just looking over the VE.A build guide posted on Oddforge and was fine until I got to "C. In-Switch LED Assembly" step 3. I have never dealt with selecting the Lock LED mode, haven't even heard of it. Can anyone explain what it is and what the proper way to set it up is? I will have in switch LEDs and the switches will be SIP socketed so I can change the LEDs when the mood strikes.
Would the Full-LED mode be all in-switch LEDs lit at all times? If so what is Lock-LED mode?
In case someone doesn't understand my question or needs more info the VE.A assembly guide is here (http://oddforge.com/product/vea_assembly) and the part I am having trouble grasping is part C, step 3.
those 2 are for scroll lock and numlock indicators. If you connect the F and middle, it will be a full LED on that in switch LED (acts like any other switch LED). If you connect the L and the middle, it will be a lock LED for that one (ie, numlock and scroll lock indicators).
But I don't know why those keys has this functionality, when there are indicator LEDs already on the pcb as circled in red:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/I7X51TG.png)
Maybe you can use the 3 Lock LEDs I indicated as FN layer indicators instead, and use those 2 as Num/Scr Lock... but I didn't do that with my build :)
Ahhhh, ok. That makes sense. Thank you for the answer. Maybe ZeFyr will have the time to explain why those are there since the PCB already has indicator LEDs......
Not a fancy reason :)
It's for custom case builders option. But I didn't published reference case design, there's no custom(custom over custom haha) case yet.
Ahh, ok. So they don't have to be used then? Like the Massdrop kit wouldn't need those messed with?
Post by: zefyr on Wed, 27 July 2016, 01:53:10
Quick question.
I was just looking over the VE.A build guide posted on Oddforge and was fine until I got to "C. In-Switch LED Assembly" step 3. I have never dealt with selecting the Lock LED mode, haven't even heard of it. Can anyone explain what it is and what the proper way to set it up is? I will have in switch LEDs and the switches will be SIP socketed so I can change the LEDs when the mood strikes.
Would the Full-LED mode be all in-switch LEDs lit at all times? If so what is Lock-LED mode?
In case someone doesn't understand my question or needs more info the VE.A assembly guide is here (http://oddforge.com/product/vea_assembly) and the part I am having trouble grasping is part C, step 3.
those 2 are for scroll lock and numlock indicators. If you connect the F and middle, it will be a full LED on that in switch LED (acts like any other switch LED). If you connect the L and the middle, it will be a lock LED for that one (ie, numlock and scroll lock indicators).
But I don't know why those keys has this functionality, when there are indicator LEDs already on the pcb as circled in red:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/I7X51TG.png)
Maybe you can use the 3 Lock LEDs I indicated as FN layer indicators instead, and use those 2 as Num/Scr Lock... but I didn't do that with my build :)
Ahhhh, ok. That makes sense. Thank you for the answer. Maybe ZeFyr will have the time to explain why those are there since the PCB already has indicator LEDs......
Not a fancy reason :)
It's for custom case builders option. But I didn't published reference case design, there's no custom(custom over custom haha) case yet.
Ahh, ok. So they don't have to be used then? Like the Massdrop kit wouldn't need those messed with?
You probably want to set it with F.
Post by: Ryukuxyz on Wed, 27 July 2016, 20:48:14
Quick question.
I was just looking over the VE.A build guide posted on Oddforge and was fine until I got to "C. In-Switch LED Assembly" step 3. I have never dealt with selecting the Lock LED mode, haven't even heard of it. Can anyone explain what it is and what the proper way to set it up is? I will have in switch LEDs and the switches will be SIP socketed so I can change the LEDs when the mood strikes.
Would the Full-LED mode be all in-switch LEDs lit at all times? If so what is Lock-LED mode?
In case someone doesn't understand my question or needs more info the VE.A assembly guide is here (http://oddforge.com/product/vea_assembly) and the part I am having trouble grasping is part C, step 3.
those 2 are for scroll lock and numlock indicators. If you connect the F and middle, it will be a full LED on that in switch LED (acts like any other switch LED). If you connect the L and the middle, it will be a lock LED for that one (ie, numlock and scroll lock indicators).
But I don't know why those keys has this functionality, when there are indicator LEDs already on the pcb as circled in red:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/I7X51TG.png)
Maybe you can use the 3 Lock LEDs I indicated as FN layer indicators instead, and use those 2 as Num/Scr Lock... but I didn't do that with my build :)
Ahhhh, ok. That makes sense. Thank you for the answer. Maybe ZeFyr will have the time to explain why those are there since the PCB already has indicator LEDs......
Not a fancy reason :)
It's for custom case builders option. But I didn't published reference case design, there's no custom(custom over custom haha) case yet.
Ahh, ok. So they don't have to be used then? Like the Massdrop kit wouldn't need those messed with?
You probably want to set it with F.
So if the PCB already has indicator lights, do we need to do solder in the Lock LEDs at all? http://oddforge.com/product/vea_assembly Step B2 here.
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 28 July 2016, 00:30:22
Post by: zefyr on Thu, 28 July 2016, 04:12:47
So if the PCB already has indicator lights, do we need to do solder in the Lock LEDs at all? http://oddforge.com/product/vea_assembly Step B2 here.
I don't understand what is your question.
In my head, indicator lights = Lock LEDs.
So, I'm gonna reply in general.
No Normal LED is pre-soldered. Only 18 RGB LED will be pre-soldered.
You should solder indicator(Lock) LEDs and all in-switch LEDs.
Post by: Data on Fri, 29 July 2016, 09:50:19
In-switch LOCK behavior has the LED normally off and it only turns on when the indicated lock type is engaged. So for Caps Lock the LED sits off until you engage Caps Lock, at which time the LED turns on -- this is how any normal in-switch lock indicator works. Why would someone want this? Mainly if they have WINDOWED key caps for the lock keys.
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Wed, 10 August 2016, 16:25:55
Post by: jal on Wed, 10 August 2016, 20:09:11
any update on this yet?
Which "this"? If you mean delivery, there was a notification email from MD on 2016.07.21 indicating that some plates were scratched and being redone, so there would be a delay.
Post by: shangrila500 on Wed, 10 August 2016, 22:11:37
If you use the individual lock indicator LEDs in the upper left corner of the board then you do NOT need to jumper for "lock-type" on the in-switch LEDs unless you want both for some strange reason.
In-switch LOCK behavior has the LED normally off and it only turns on when the indicated lock type is engaged. So for Caps Lock the LED sits off until you engage Caps Lock, at which time the LED turns on -- this is how any normal in-switch lock indicator works. Why would someone want this? Mainly if they have WINDOWED key caps for the lock keys.
Gotcha, that explained it perfectly! Thank you very much!
Post by: zefyr on Thu, 18 August 2016, 00:34:37
any update on this yet?
Which "this"? If you mean delivery, there was a notification email from MD on 2016.07.21 indicating that some plates were scratched and being redone, so there would be a delay.
We got final sample few days ago.
Quality check passed, we are producing batches and expecting 2 weeks for check and packaging :)
Thanks for long waiting.
Post by: krisst on Thu, 18 August 2016, 05:54:03
We got final sample few days ago.
Quality check passed, we are producing batches and expecting 2 weeks for check and packaging :)
Thanks for long waiting.
Thank you for the update! Do post more pictures of progress if possible. :D
Post by: jal on Thu, 18 August 2016, 08:44:29
We got final sample few days ago.
Quality check passed, we are producing batches and expecting 2 weeks for check and packaging :)
Thanks for long waiting.
Woo hoo! Nondenominational Holiday Gift-Giving Event is getting closer.
Post by: Data on Thu, 18 August 2016, 09:16:02
any update on this yet?
Which "this"? If you mean delivery, there was a notification email from MD on 2016.07.21 indicating that some plates were scratched and being redone, so there would be a delay.
We got final sample few days ago.
Quality check passed, we are producing batches and expecting 2 weeks for check and packaging :)
Thanks for long waiting.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/lGmKzynHWftFm/giphy.gif)
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 18 August 2016, 14:21:42
Post by: zefyr on Thu, 18 August 2016, 23:55:52
We got final sample few days ago.
Quality check passed, we are producing batches and expecting 2 weeks for check and packaging :)
Thanks for long waiting.
Thank you for the update! Do post more pictures of progress if possible. :D
Picture of last night :)
(http://i.imgur.com/3PfmUUj.jpg) (http://imgur.com/3PfmUUj)
This is first batch of black cases
Picture taken after quality check :)
Post by: HouseofSuffering on Fri, 19 August 2016, 01:03:44
Post by: Delirious on Fri, 26 August 2016, 13:33:27
Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 28 August 2016, 11:54:11
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 29 August 2016, 14:44:22
Post by: E3E on Mon, 29 August 2016, 15:43:57
since I have two I might want an alps plate too but maybe not. alps are just ok ^_^
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Put up or shut up. ^__^
:-*
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 29 August 2016, 15:55:00
Post by: zefyr on Thu, 01 September 2016, 00:17:19
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 01 September 2016, 09:14:46
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 01 September 2016, 11:13:38
Also the comment below this, if there will be any for sale please let us know. I didn't realize that MassDrop aparently doesn't give a window to correct payments? Is that the case?
Post by: rcordeau on Thu, 01 September 2016, 11:57:44
Any update as to if you'll have any extras to sell outside of Massdrop? My Massdrop credit card debacle made me miss the drop.
Thanks,
Rob
Post by: zefyr on Fri, 02 September 2016, 00:37:22
All set, Finally.
What is the next GB going to be :p
WOW, you just saying that.
You know? After one GB ends, we always thinks
"Never again"
It's like hangover. man.
Post by: MajorKoos on Fri, 02 September 2016, 07:16:11
All set, Finally.
What is the next GB going to be :p
WOW, you just saying that.
You know? After one GB ends, we always thinks
"Never again"
It's like hangover. man.
Lol!
You've definitely been put through your paces on this GB.
The issue with the scratches must have been a real headache, but you got in front of it really well.
Kudos for putting this together and I hope the hangover wears off soon :)
Post by: jal on Tue, 06 September 2016, 19:29:31
All set, Finally.
Just back from vacation so just seeing this. But I just wanted to say thank you for making this happen. It is really quite an accomplishment.
Post by: zefyr on Wed, 07 September 2016, 23:57:03
Howdy Geeks.
We shipped out all of your orders.
It's heading for Massdrop warehouse NJ.
Thanks for your support everyone.
ZeF out, I mean it.
I need some rest.
Oh, one another matter.
We got tens of leftovers.
Some of you are asking when, how to get, etc. It's not hard to reply but I don't want to reply same answer repeatedly.
Here's deal.
It will be sold on our website after Massdrop's individual shipping ends.
It's for aftercare, so we have to keep it for certain period.
You can ask reservation to me, but it's really limited, so I cannot guarantee your reservation.
We don't have any energy left to reproduce another batch.
EXHAUSTED literally, We gotta kill some demons at "Sanctuary".
Feel free to ask anything except reservation of leftovers. :)
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 07 September 2016, 23:59:51
Announcement from oddforge
Howdy Geeks.
We shipped out all of your orders.
It's heading for Massdrop warehouse NJ.
Thanks for your support everyone.
ZeF out, I mean it.
I need some rest.
Oh, one another matter.
We got tens of leftovers.
Some of you are asking when, how to get, etc. It's not hard to reply but I don't want to reply same answer repeatedly.
Here's deal.
It will be sold on our website after Massdrop's individual shipping ends.
It's for aftercare, so we have to keep it for certain period.
You can ask reservation to me, but it's really limited, so I cannot guarantee your reservation.
We don't have any energy left to reproduce another batch.
EXHAUSTED literally, We gotta kill some demons at "Sanctuary".
Feel free to ask anything except reservation of leftovers. :)
Hey, you made it! Glad to see everything got along. I still can't wait for mine. Get some much needed rest! Can't wait to see what you'll come up with next!
Post by: trizkut on Thu, 08 September 2016, 00:00:22
Announcement from oddforge
Howdy Geeks.
We shipped out all of your orders.
It's heading for Massdrop warehouse NJ.
Thanks for your support everyone.
ZeF out, I mean it.
I need some rest.
Oh, one another matter.
We got tens of leftovers.
Some of you are asking when, how to get, etc. It's not hard to reply but I don't want to reply same answer repeatedly.
Here's deal.
It will be sold on our website after Massdrop's individual shipping ends.
It's for aftercare, so we have to keep it for certain period.
You can ask reservation to me, but it's really limited, so I cannot guarantee your reservation.
We don't have any energy left to reproduce another batch.
EXHAUSTED literally, We gotta kill some demons at "Sanctuary".
Feel free to ask anything except reservation of leftovers. :)
take a break, watch pictures of built VE.As from all over the world pour in, and enjoy life. you deserve it :thumb:
Post by: hkf on Thu, 08 September 2016, 00:29:57
Announcement from oddforge
Howdy Geeks.
We shipped out all of your orders.
It's heading for Massdrop warehouse NJ.
Thanks for your support everyone.
ZeF out, I mean it.
I need some rest.
Oh, one another matter.
We got tens of leftovers.
Some of you are asking when, how to get, etc. It's not hard to reply but I don't want to reply same answer repeatedly.
Here's deal.
It will be sold on our website after Massdrop's individual shipping ends.
It's for aftercare, so we have to keep it for certain period.
You can ask reservation to me, but it's really limited, so I cannot guarantee your reservation.
We don't have any energy left to reproduce another batch.
EXHAUSTED literally, We gotta kill some demons at "Sanctuary".
Feel free to ask anything except reservation of leftovers. :)
PM sent for pcb+plate :D
Post by: zefyr on Thu, 08 September 2016, 00:56:49
First, there's NO B-stock.
All B-stock will be returned to factory, and reproduced as new one.
So, it's all brand new.
I got several (more than you might think) PMs after last minute announcement.
So, yes you can ask stand in line, but as always, no guarantee. it's already full.
And, we will not post the reservation list anywhere.
Some of you got my mail or PM that says "you are in", for those.
Please, DO NOT POST ANYTHING ABOUT YOU ARE IN. That might make others thinks to PM me faster can make it in.
We really are exhausted, please. please give us at lease couple of weeks to rest.
We will announce for selling leftovers when it's ready.
I promise!
Post by: ipreferpie on Thu, 08 September 2016, 03:43:18
Post by: E3E on Fri, 09 September 2016, 05:29:09
Congratulations on completing the orders! Just wondering if you have any info on the ALPS plate?
The DXF files should be up after a while on the Oddforge website. :thumb:
Post by: xondat on Fri, 09 September 2016, 06:51:28
Announcement from oddforgeSo close to closure... Happy to see it over on your side :))
Howdy Geeks.
We shipped out all of your orders.
It's heading for Massdrop warehouse NJ.
Thanks for your support everyone.
ZeF out, I mean it.
I need some rest.
Oh, one another matter.
We got tens of leftovers.
Some of you are asking when, how to get, etc. It's not hard to reply but I don't want to reply same answer repeatedly.
Here's deal.
It will be sold on our website after Massdrop's individual shipping ends.
It's for aftercare, so we have to keep it for certain period.
You can ask reservation to me, but it's really limited, so I cannot guarantee your reservation.
We don't have any energy left to reproduce another batch.
EXHAUSTED literally, We gotta kill some demons at "Sanctuary".
Feel free to ask anything except reservation of leftovers. :)
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Sun, 11 September 2016, 08:32:07
Post by: glasscaps on Sun, 11 September 2016, 08:44:58
If anyone ever wants to sell for RRP - you know where I am.
Post by: TerryMathews on Sun, 11 September 2016, 09:01:28
If anyone ever wants to sell for RRP - you know where I am.
LOL
Post by: krisst on Sun, 11 September 2016, 12:31:01
I noticed back when the drop first ended. The total order amount on MD was around 108, I might be wrong and looking at the total order number now, decreased to 102. I guess a few people cancelled their order.
If they only knew there are a list of buyers who missed the drop.
Post by: TerryMathews on Sun, 11 September 2016, 17:01:14
If they only knew there are a list of buyers who missed the drop.
I'm sure they'll be sold in the Bazaar (at a markup)
Post by: meiosis on Sun, 11 September 2016, 17:46:17
Ah, I need to explain a little more.
First, there's NO B-stock.
All B-stock will be returned to factory, and reproduced as new one.
So, it's all brand new.
I got several (more than you might think) PMs after last minute announcement.
So, yes you can ask stand in line, but as always, no guarantee. it's already full.
And, we will not post the reservation list anywhere.
Some of you got my mail or PM that says "you are in", for those.
Please, DO NOT POST ANYTHING ABOUT YOU ARE IN. That might make others thinks to PM me faster can make it in.
We really are exhausted, please. please give us at lease couple of weeks to rest.
We will announce for selling leftovers when it's ready.
I promise!
Amazing QC, first GB done as well as can be (in terms of making the best out of the mishap at the factory.
Lot's of respect!
Post by: Jedi on Sun, 11 September 2016, 21:03:03
Post by: ceflame on Tue, 13 September 2016, 09:33:50
(http://i.imgur.com/rS5LjSa.png?1)
Post by: jal on Tue, 13 September 2016, 10:06:20
Earlier than expected!
Just got my notification, too. I had been assuming October - nice surprise.
Post by: litster on Tue, 13 September 2016, 10:40:57
Post by: MajorKoos on Tue, 13 September 2016, 12:25:29
I'm really looking forward to putting this baby together.
Thank you for all the effort you put into the drop Zefyr - you rock.
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 13 September 2016, 13:21:25
Post by: Vypr on Tue, 13 September 2016, 14:20:42
Post by: krisst on Tue, 13 September 2016, 15:10:58
Post by: Ryukuxyz on Tue, 13 September 2016, 16:31:58
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 13 September 2016, 17:33:06
But when can we expect the release of ALPS plate files?
Post by: MajorKoos on Tue, 13 September 2016, 20:25:01
DHL finally updated tracking info for the parcel.
ETA is the 21st, so I'm assuming it's being delivered by stage coach.
Post by: ceflame on Tue, 13 September 2016, 21:05:50
Lol.
DHL finally updated tracking info for the parcel.
ETA is the 21st, so I'm assuming it's being delivered by stage coach.
Mine is set for the 20th. Was hoping it would come sooner so I could bring it to the socal meetup but RIP.
Post by: ccc24 on Tue, 13 September 2016, 22:37:31
Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 14 September 2016, 16:35:35
Post by: jal on Wed, 14 September 2016, 20:33:33
My ETA is the 20th as well. Is the build guide on the Massdrop page the most up to date? Thinking about trying to make this hot-swappable switches.just get some other boards to try for a while to decide on weights and such. Hotswap modding is $$$
So, I tried searching around a bit, but am having trouble finding info on this. Anyone have a pointer to how to go about it? I imagine it involves sockets of some sort for the PCB, but am thinking that a fair amount potentially has to change, like the plate. I did get an extra PCB, but not a spare plate.
No idea if I'd try it, but if I were, this would probably be the board to do it to.
Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 14 September 2016, 20:34:35
Post by: ccc24 on Wed, 14 September 2016, 21:28:41
Post by: jal on Wed, 14 September 2016, 22:52:03
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 15 September 2016, 08:45:38
Post by: ccc24 on Sat, 17 September 2016, 00:21:11
Are installing those sockets the only mod you're making? Seems way too easy.
I hope so lol. It's more tedious than it is complex. Though they weren't designed specifically for mechanical switches, they were designed for solderless connections, so I don't see why it wouldn't work. Hope E3E can chime in when he sees this.
Post by: jal on Sat, 17 September 2016, 08:19:19
Are installing those sockets the only mod you're making? Seems way too easy.
I hope so lol. It's more tedious than it is complex. Though they weren't designed specifically for mechanical switches, they were designed for solderless connections, so I don't see why it wouldn't work. Hope E3E can chime in when he sees this.
"More tedious than complex" describes my experience with most things related to keyboard construction. ("Now do it 131 more times.")
I'm really curious about how this goes. I'll probably order some sockets in any case - if it doesn't work with the VE.A, it should with something else.
Now that I'm thinking about it, I wonder what specifically the Smart68 designer did differently. More Investigation Needed. I'll post back here if I find anything useful.
Post by: rrrsss on Sat, 17 September 2016, 18:28:08
and btw, if the solderless connection works, i want to see how to do it too!!
Post by: KetchyKech on Sat, 17 September 2016, 19:17:27
Post by: Vypr on Sun, 18 September 2016, 13:12:13
What is shipping ETA?
Looking to be November at this point, due to the long Chinese holiday in October.
Post by: krisst on Sun, 18 September 2016, 13:32:37
Looks like I won't be able to build mine until November since I'm waiting on some Zeal parts :(What is shipping ETA?Looking to be November at this point, due to the long Chinese holiday in October.
Yup. Same for me too. Ordered some stabs. Hopefully VE.A package will arrive safely and everything is perfect, PCB is working, etc. Would be good to make sure to test the PCB, check the casing even if you are not building it yet. I think by Nov, any spare VE.A from zefyr might be put up for sale for any interested buyers, not confirm, just my thought.
Post by: Vypr on Sun, 18 September 2016, 13:35:42
Looks like I won't be able to build mine until November since I'm waiting on some Zeal parts :(
Yup. Same for me too. Ordered some stabs. Hopefully VE.A package will arrive safely and everything is perfect, PCB is working, etc. Would be good to make sure to test the PCB, check the casing even if you are not building it yet. I think by Nov, any spare VE.A from zefyr might be put up for sale for any interested buyers, not confirm, just my thought.
That is a good point, I'll be sure to do that.
Post by: xsolon on Sun, 18 September 2016, 16:37:35
Its a lame pic, but thought someone may want to see whats in the box.
I guess I have to learn to solder now! But i'm really hoping someone with some experience can do a bit of trailblazing for us newbies.
Post by: zefyr on Mon, 19 September 2016, 00:23:17
Looks like I won't be able to build mine until November since I'm waiting on some Zeal parts :(
Yup. Same for me too. Ordered some stabs. Hopefully VE.A package will arrive safely and everything is perfect, PCB is working, etc. Would be good to make sure to test the PCB, check the casing even if you are not building it yet. I think by Nov, any spare VE.A from zefyr might be put up for sale for any interested buyers, not confirm, just my thought.
That is a good point, I'll be sure to do that.
Good point :)
We will save spares for unexpected accident.
And put them on sale after 2~3 weeks later.
Post by: zefyr on Mon, 19 September 2016, 00:31:23
is there any news about plate/case dxf files? i'm interested in building my own split60 and wanted to see how others are doing it for the cases and plates.
and btw, if the solderless connection works, i want to see how to do it too!!
Sorry I kept you waiting.
It was long holiday in Korea.
I'm working on it :)
Wait a little more please.
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 19 September 2016, 15:50:30
Post by: Ryukuxyz on Tue, 20 September 2016, 14:12:50
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 20 September 2016, 14:29:12
Post by: renzpwns on Tue, 20 September 2016, 18:41:52
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 20 September 2016, 18:42:49
Post by: Vypr on Tue, 20 September 2016, 23:09:29
(http://i.imgur.com/93l1UGU.jpg)
Now to wait to November for my Zeal parts.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 20 September 2016, 23:10:25
Just got mines today, everything seems ok, except one of the LEDs (bottom row, 4th one in the pic) occasionally flickers, but seems to go away after being plugged in for awhile.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/93l1UGU.jpg)
Now to wait to November for my Zeal parts.
The blinking might be due to a poor solder joint.
Post by: zefyr on Wed, 21 September 2016, 00:19:49
Just got mines today, everything seems ok, except one of the LEDs (bottom row, 4th one in the pic) occasionally flickers, but seems to go away after being plugged in for awhile.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/93l1UGU.jpg)
Now to wait to November for my Zeal parts.
We checked LEDs twice, while testing LED and before packaging.
But this can happen because RGB LED is very fragile part.
If flickering happens again, try re-soldering it.
I'll think about what I can do about it also.
Post by: Vypr on Wed, 21 September 2016, 00:49:54
Just got mines today, everything seems ok, except one of the LEDs (bottom row, 4th one in the pic) occasionally flickers, but seems to go away after being plugged in for awhile.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/93l1UGU.jpg)
Now to wait to November for my Zeal parts.
We checked LEDs twice, while testing LED and before packaging.
But this can happen because RGB LED is very fragile part.
If flickering happens again, try re-soldering it.
I'll think about what I can do about it also.
no worries Zefyr, you did so much for this drop already :thumb:
I could probably just resolder if it is problematic, worst case I could probably replace the LED (assuming it's just a part I can buy on the internet)
Post by: zefyr on Wed, 21 September 2016, 00:52:35
Just got mines today, everything seems ok, except one of the LEDs (bottom row, 4th one in the pic) occasionally flickers, but seems to go away after being plugged in for awhile.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/93l1UGU.jpg)
Now to wait to November for my Zeal parts.
We checked LEDs twice, while testing LED and before packaging.
But this can happen because RGB LED is very fragile part.
If flickering happens again, try re-soldering it.
I'll think about what I can do about it also.
no worries Zefyr, you did so much for this drop already :thumb:
I could probably just resolder if it is problematic, worst case I could probably replace the LED (assuming it's just a part I can buy on the internet)
Thank you very much...
That lightened my burden.
Post by: ceflame on Wed, 21 September 2016, 00:59:33
(http://i.imgur.com/G0teP27.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/TWcCinS.jpg)
Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 21 September 2016, 10:20:37
Post by: MajorKoos on Wed, 21 September 2016, 12:11:18
It's MUCH lighter than I expected - as if it were a magnesium alloy which was used rather than pure aluminum.
Super impressed with the quality and attention to detail.
Super duper happy I got a second PCB in anticipation of the ALPS plates :)
Major kudos to Zephyr and Ildustry for this awesome drop.
Post by: Azzures on Wed, 21 September 2016, 13:00:56
Just got mines today, everything seems ok, except one of the LEDs (bottom row, 4th one in the pic) occasionally flickers, but seems to go away after being plugged in for awhile.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/93l1UGU.jpg)
Now to wait to November for my Zeal parts.
Just wondering, what Zeal parts did you order? Was considering ordering r4's, and wanted different stabilizers, but ordered everything together with the drop just so I wouldnt have to wait for parts, lol
Post by: Vypr on Wed, 21 September 2016, 13:03:40
Just got mines today, everything seems ok, except one of the LEDs (bottom row, 4th one in the pic) occasionally flickers, but seems to go away after being plugged in for awhile.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/93l1UGU.jpg)
Now to wait to November for my Zeal parts.
Just wondering, what Zeal parts did you order? Was considering ordering r4's, and wanted different stabilizers, but ordered everything together with the drop just so I wouldnt have to wait for parts, lol
Stabs and silencing clips, technically I could put it together now with normal stabs, but I don't want to do double work, cause I'm lazy.
Post by: Azzures on Wed, 21 September 2016, 13:11:52
Just got mines today, everything seems ok, except one of the LEDs (bottom row, 4th one in the pic) occasionally flickers, but seems to go away after being plugged in for awhile.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/93l1UGU.jpg)
Now to wait to November for my Zeal parts.
Just wondering, what Zeal parts did you order? Was considering ordering r4's, and wanted different stabilizers, but ordered everything together with the drop just so I wouldnt have to wait for parts, lol
Stabs and silencing clips, technically I could put it together now with normal stabs, but I don't want to do double work, cause I'm lazy.
Are you talking about the Authentic Cherry PCB & Plate Mount Stabilizers zeal has?
Post by: Vypr on Wed, 21 September 2016, 13:14:05
The new transparent stabsJust got mines today, everything seems ok, except one of the LEDs (bottom row, 4th one in the pic) occasionally flickers, but seems to go away after being plugged in for awhile.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/93l1UGU.jpg)
Now to wait to November for my Zeal parts.
Just wondering, what Zeal parts did you order? Was considering ordering r4's, and wanted different stabilizers, but ordered everything together with the drop just so I wouldnt have to wait for parts, lol
Stabs and silencing clips, technically I could put it together now with normal stabs, but I don't want to do double work, cause I'm lazy.
Are you talking about the Authentic Cherry PCB & Plate Mount Stabilizers zeal has?
Post by: Azzures on Wed, 21 September 2016, 13:20:40
The new transparent stabsJust got mines today, everything seems ok, except one of the LEDs (bottom row, 4th one in the pic) occasionally flickers, but seems to go away after being plugged in for awhile.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/93l1UGU.jpg)
Now to wait to November for my Zeal parts.
Just wondering, what Zeal parts did you order? Was considering ordering r4's, and wanted different stabilizers, but ordered everything together with the drop just so I wouldnt have to wait for parts, lol
Stabs and silencing clips, technically I could put it together now with normal stabs, but I don't want to do double work, cause I'm lazy.
Are you talking about the Authentic Cherry PCB & Plate Mount Stabilizers zeal has?
Ohhhhhh. Those are the screw in pcb ones right? I was thinking of ordering those myself, but I didnt know if they would be able to used with the VE:A plate/pcb.
Post by: Vypr on Wed, 21 September 2016, 14:58:45
The new transparent stabsJust got mines today, everything seems ok, except one of the LEDs (bottom row, 4th one in the pic) occasionally flickers, but seems to go away after being plugged in for awhile.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/93l1UGU.jpg)
Now to wait to November for my Zeal parts.
Just wondering, what Zeal parts did you order? Was considering ordering r4's, and wanted different stabilizers, but ordered everything together with the drop just so I wouldnt have to wait for parts, lol
Stabs and silencing clips, technically I could put it together now with normal stabs, but I don't want to do double work, cause I'm lazy.
Are you talking about the Authentic Cherry PCB & Plate Mount Stabilizers zeal has?
Ohhhhhh. Those are the screw in pcb ones right? I was thinking of ordering those myself, but I didnt know if they would be able to used with the VE:A plate/pcb.
Yea, worse case if it didn't work, I'd have just waited a long time :))
Post by: Azzures on Wed, 21 September 2016, 15:18:47
The new transparent stabsJust got mines today, everything seems ok, except one of the LEDs (bottom row, 4th one in the pic) occasionally flickers, but seems to go away after being plugged in for awhile.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/93l1UGU.jpg)
Now to wait to November for my Zeal parts.
Just wondering, what Zeal parts did you order? Was considering ordering r4's, and wanted different stabilizers, but ordered everything together with the drop just so I wouldnt have to wait for parts, lol
Stabs and silencing clips, technically I could put it together now with normal stabs, but I don't want to do double work, cause I'm lazy.
Are you talking about the Authentic Cherry PCB & Plate Mount Stabilizers zeal has?
Ohhhhhh. Those are the screw in pcb ones right? I was thinking of ordering those myself, but I didnt know if they would be able to used with the VE:A plate/pcb.
Yea, worse case if it didn't work, I'd have just waited a long time :))
I hope they work out for you! If they do, I would need to order a set for myself lol
Post by: Vypr on Wed, 21 September 2016, 15:31:15
Thanks :thumb:, looking forward to November :))The new transparent stabsJust got mines today, everything seems ok, except one of the LEDs (bottom row, 4th one in the pic) occasionally flickers, but seems to go away after being plugged in for awhile.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/93l1UGU.jpg)
Now to wait to November for my Zeal parts.
Just wondering, what Zeal parts did you order? Was considering ordering r4's, and wanted different stabilizers, but ordered everything together with the drop just so I wouldnt have to wait for parts, lol
Stabs and silencing clips, technically I could put it together now with normal stabs, but I don't want to do double work, cause I'm lazy.
Are you talking about the Authentic Cherry PCB & Plate Mount Stabilizers zeal has?
Ohhhhhh. Those are the screw in pcb ones right? I was thinking of ordering those myself, but I didnt know if they would be able to used with the VE:A plate/pcb.
Yea, worse case if it didn't work, I'd have just waited a long time :))
I hope they work out for you! If they do, I would need to order a set for myself lol
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 21 September 2016, 18:39:40
Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 21 September 2016, 19:20:14
Post by: Azzures on Wed, 21 September 2016, 19:24:11
Mine says it was delivered to my front door...and is not there...looks like I'm filing a claim in the morning...ffs...
That really sucks. Luckily I signed up for text alerts for when mine arrived today, because they didnt knock or ring the doorbell. Just snuck up and left it in front of the door
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 21 September 2016, 19:55:28
Mine says it was delivered to my front door...and is not there...looks like I'm filing a claim in the morning...ffs...
That really sucks. Luckily I signed up for text alerts for when mine arrived today, because they didnt knock or ring the doorbell. Just snuck up and left it in front of the door
Yeah, I'm praying that my leasing office has it, or else I'm going to get to deal trying to pry $600 from the post office
Post by: MajorKoos on Wed, 21 September 2016, 21:57:31
Mine says it was delivered to my front door...and is not there...looks like I'm filing a claim in the morning...ffs...
That really sucks. Luckily I signed up for text alerts for when mine arrived today, because they didnt knock or ring the doorbell. Just snuck up and left it in front of the door
Yeah, I'm praying that my leasing office has it, or else I'm going to get to deal trying to pry $600 from the post office
That really bites.
I hope it turns up in short order.
Post by: Azzures on Wed, 21 September 2016, 22:28:56
Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 21 September 2016, 22:34:44
Post by: Azzures on Wed, 21 September 2016, 22:51:08
So dumb question. Just got my kit, everything seems to work fine when testing the pcb, which is great. Was looking at the assemble guide, and about the 3 lock leds. was wondering if the kit is supposed to come with those 3 leds. If not, which ones should i buy, and is there anything else I should know. Would be easy to add them later? Probably not im guessing because of the plate
usually will not come with them. From the assembly guide he uses 1.8mm LEDs. If you never soldered them in, you could add them later at any time no issues. Just take it apart and solder them in.
Awesome! thanks, im actually just about to start soldering. How did people break apart the pcb?
Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 21 September 2016, 22:51:54
Post by: MajorKoos on Wed, 21 September 2016, 23:13:48
So dumb question. Just got my kit, everything seems to work fine when testing the pcb, which is great. Was looking at the assemble guide, and about the 3 lock leds. was wondering if the kit is supposed to come with those 3 leds. If not, which ones should i buy, and is there anything else I should know. Would be easy to add them later? Probably not im guessing because of the plate
usually will not come with them. From the assembly guide he uses 1.8mm LEDs. If you never soldered them in, you could add them later at any time no issues. Just take it apart and solder them in.
Awesome! thanks, im actually just about to start soldering. How did people break apart the pcb?
usually with 2 sets of pliers very carefully.
The PCB doesn't have SMD resistors soldered on to enable the indicator lights (marked as R8, R9 and R10 on the PCB).
You'd also need so source some 910 ohm SMD resistors (of the correct size) and solder them to the PCB on those pads to get those indicators to work.
Post by: Vypr on Wed, 21 September 2016, 23:38:43
Mine says it was delivered to my front door...and is not there...looks like I'm filing a claim in the morning...ffs...
That really sucks. Luckily I signed up for text alerts for when mine arrived today, because they didnt knock or ring the doorbell. Just snuck up and left it in front of the door
Yeah, I'm praying that my leasing office has it, or else I'm going to get to deal trying to pry $600 from the post office
Very sorry to hear that, I hope you find it.
So dumb question. Just got my kit, everything seems to work fine when testing the pcb, which is great. Was looking at the assemble guide, and about the 3 lock leds. was wondering if the kit is supposed to come with those 3 leds. If not, which ones should i buy, and is there anything else I should know. Would be easy to add them later? Probably not im guessing because of the plate
usually will not come with them. From the assembly guide he uses 1.8mm LEDs. If you never soldered them in, you could add them later at any time no issues. Just take it apart and solder them in.
Awesome! thanks, im actually just about to start soldering. How did people break apart the pcb?
usually with 2 sets of pliers very carefully.
The PCB doesn't have SMD resistors soldered on to enable the indicator lights (marked as R8, R9 and R10 on the PCB).
You'd also need so source some 910 ohm SMD resistors (of the correct size) and solder them to the PCB on those pads to get those indicators to work.
Good to know, I may consider doing that myself down the road, I think having the indicator lights might be cool
Post by: jal on Wed, 21 September 2016, 23:47:37
Which might be for the best; still trying to decide on whether to try to socket the caps. If I started fondling the board before making up my mind, well, that would probably make up my mind and I'd start soldering.
Post by: Azzures on Thu, 22 September 2016, 00:34:46
Post by: Azzures on Thu, 22 September 2016, 03:55:15
Post by: MajorKoos on Thu, 22 September 2016, 06:11:30
Post by: exitfire401 on Thu, 22 September 2016, 08:55:57
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 22 September 2016, 08:59:44
Post by: Vypr on Thu, 22 September 2016, 09:33:53
SUCCESS! Received this morning. It was at my leasing office. So hyped!;D :thumb:
Post by: Azzures on Thu, 22 September 2016, 11:09:21
Yeah, similar issue here.
Well least Im not the only one, thought I was going to have to unsolder the entire board of the switches and try again. Maybe one of the chips doesnt have enough clearance to rest on the acrylic layer? Going to take another look tonight. Also, does anyone know where I can buy more of these plastic screws for the case? They strip very easily >.>
Post by: krisst on Thu, 22 September 2016, 11:36:39
Did anyone else ordered dark grey variant? The one I received seems too light to be dark grey, maybe I would call that slightly grey. I took a few pics to compare with whitefox.
(http://i.imgur.com/Kw79PhV.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/NcKMmBM.jpg)
Post by: exitfire401 on Thu, 22 September 2016, 11:53:16
Just received package. Checked the PCB, working well.
Did anyone else ordered dark grey variant? The one I received seems too light to be dark grey, maybe I would call that slightly grey. I took a few pics to compare with whitefox.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Kw79PhV.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/NcKMmBM.jpg)
I thought it would be darker too, but it's far enough away from silver that I'm happy with it.
Post by: krisst on Thu, 22 September 2016, 11:56:40
Just received package. Checked the PCB, working well.
Did anyone else ordered dark grey variant? The one I received seems too light to be dark grey, maybe I would call that slightly grey. I took a few pics to compare with whitefox.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Kw79PhV.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/NcKMmBM.jpg)
I thought it would be darker too, but it's far enough away from silver that I'm happy with it.
You ordered dark grey too? Well then, guess I just have to wait for zeal stabs to start assembling. Thank you
Post by: exitfire401 on Thu, 22 September 2016, 12:14:19
Just received package. Checked the PCB, working well.
Did anyone else ordered dark grey variant? The one I received seems too light to be dark grey, maybe I would call that slightly grey. I took a few pics to compare with whitefox.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Kw79PhV.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/NcKMmBM.jpg)
I thought it would be darker too, but it's far enough away from silver that I'm happy with it.
You ordered dark grey too? Well then, guess I just have to wait for zeal stabs to start assembling. Thank you
Yeah, same here on zeal stabs. Can't wait to get it up and running!
Post by: Azzures on Thu, 22 September 2016, 12:23:42
Just received package. Checked the PCB, working well.
Did anyone else ordered dark grey variant? The one I received seems too light to be dark grey, maybe I would call that slightly grey. I took a few pics to compare with whitefox.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Kw79PhV.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/NcKMmBM.jpg)
I thought it would be darker too, but it's far enough away from silver that I'm happy with it.
You ordered dark grey too? Well then, guess I just have to wait for zeal stabs to start assembling. Thank you
Yeah, same here on zeal stabs. Can't wait to get it up and running!
Yea, definitely should wait on the stabs, the ones they included, the stems dont fit well at all and just fall out of the key. Luckily I had this set from zelios (https://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/pcb-plate-mount-cherry-stabilizers) and took the stems from those and used the bases that came with the stabs in the kit. Works perfectly, lol. If you manage to fit your board without a tilting problem on the right, let me know please! Thinking I might have to grind the acrylic layer for some clearance around the chip or something
Post by: briannnn on Thu, 22 September 2016, 12:31:49
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 22 September 2016, 12:58:07
Post by: MandrewDavis on Thu, 22 September 2016, 13:57:26
SUCCESS! Received this morning. It was at my leasing office. So hyped!
Did Massdrop add signature confirmation to everyone's packages? I know the Postal Service requires it on anything shipped with a declared value of $750 or greater.
Post by: exitfire401 on Thu, 22 September 2016, 20:02:51
SUCCESS! Received this morning. It was at my leasing office. So hyped!
Did Massdrop add signature confirmation to everyone's packages? I know the Postal Service requires it on anything shipped with a declared value of $750 or greater.
I wish they had. Mine was just dropped off at my leasing office without one.
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 22 September 2016, 20:04:28
Post by: rrrsss on Thu, 22 September 2016, 20:27:06
is there any news about plate/case dxf files? i'm interested in building my own split60 and wanted to see how others are doing it for the cases and plates.
and btw, if the solderless connection works, i want to see how to do it too!!
Sorry I kept you waiting.
It was long holiday in Korea.
I'm working on it :)
Wait a little more please.
it's okay take your time :thumb: just wanted to know that you'll be releasing them ;D
Post by: MandrewDavis on Thu, 22 September 2016, 21:36:30
SUCCESS! Received this morning. It was at my leasing office. So hyped!
Did Massdrop add signature confirmation to everyone's packages? I know the Postal Service requires it on anything shipped with a declared value of $750 or greater.
I wish they had. Mine was just dropped off at my leasing office without one.
I don't see a reason not to, considering it is not usually more than what, three dollars? I about had a heart attack when they accidently delivered my 4690K to a neighbor, but that wasn't after waiting four months in anticipation!
your PCB is fine my man. Package is on my bed at home ^_^
Thanks BB :-*
Post by: zefyr on Thu, 22 September 2016, 21:50:31
Yeah, similar issue here.
Well least Im not the only one, thought I was going to have to unsolder the entire board of the switches and try again. Maybe one of the chips doesnt have enough clearance to rest on the acrylic layer? Going to take another look tonight. Also, does anyone know where I can buy more of these plastic screws for the case? They strip very easily >.>
Hmm, could you take picture of unbalanced parts? I don't understand what you meant.
We have assembled 3 samples before and didn't find any problem. Maybe it's something that I cannot realize as a problem.
And PC bolt size is M3 x 15mm.
You can use any bolt with that spec.
Here's one tip about worn bolt head.
http://m.blog.naver.com/panday/220035533252
it's wrote in Korean but you can get what you need from pictures :)
Post by: zefyr on Thu, 22 September 2016, 21:56:08
we want more from Oddforge!!!
Hmm, what you want more?
Let us know :)
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 22 September 2016, 22:04:52
Post by: MajorKoos on Thu, 22 September 2016, 22:19:47
we want more from Oddforge!!!
Hmm, what you want more?
Let us know :)
Vergo type.T-III - a 65% version of the VE.A :)
ohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohplease!
Post by: zefyr on Thu, 22 September 2016, 22:38:52
Now we see you guys are happy about VE.A.
We feel relieved, Finally.
This is our debut on GH and also international geek dimension.
We wanted it to be great, and seems we "almost" made it.
We know that some of you might not satisfied with VE.A on your hand.
We are 100% sure about quality! That's why we delayed drop this much.
Our team (odd-smiths and some helping hands) checked it several times after we got from factory, while assembling and while packaging.
Every single parts that cannot satisfy all of us was returned to factory. There was at least 6 eyes on every step, I give you my word.
But unfortunately, while shipping or handling elsewhere, the surface of case or PCB(especially RGB) can be ruined.
In that case, if you need something to ask about quality or functionality, contact our support email (support@oddforge.com) account anytime. We will take care of what we can do about it.
Post by: zefyr on Thu, 22 September 2016, 22:39:32
we want more from Oddforge!!!
Hmm, what you want more?
Let us know :)
Vergo type.T-III - a 65% version of the VE.A :)
ohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohplease!
HOW DID YOU KNOW????????????????
(I'm joking!!!)
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 22 September 2016, 22:41:29
Post by: zefyr on Thu, 22 September 2016, 22:48:45
please make more boards friend
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We will :)
But first we really want you are happy about VE.A.
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 22 September 2016, 22:49:57
Post by: zefyr on Thu, 22 September 2016, 22:52:02
please make more boards friend
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We will :)
But first we really want you are happy about VE.A.
i'm happy i have two
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I have two, and need one more, it keeps growing, I'm broke man.
Post by: MandrewDavis on Thu, 22 September 2016, 23:04:55
Yes, but only once you guys have properly recovered from this GB!we want more from Oddforge!!!
Hmm, what you want more?
Let us know :)
Also, plz maintain Alps compatibility, sadly it's not even a consideration with most customs.
Post by: zefyr on Thu, 22 September 2016, 23:20:19
Yes, but only once you guys have properly recovered from this GB!we want more from Oddforge!!!
Hmm, what you want more?
Let us know :)
Also, plz maintain Alps compatibility, sadly it's not even a consideration with most customs.
I myself use only Alps. :)
Post by: jal on Fri, 23 September 2016, 00:28:55
Hmm, what you want more?
Let us know :)
When does your self-driving car come out?
Don't deny it - all the cool kids are building them.
Post by: Azzures on Fri, 23 September 2016, 02:04:48
Yeah, similar issue here.
Well least Im not the only one, thought I was going to have to unsolder the entire board of the switches and try again. Maybe one of the chips doesnt have enough clearance to rest on the acrylic layer? Going to take another look tonight. Also, does anyone know where I can buy more of these plastic screws for the case? They strip very easily >.>
Hmm, could you take picture of unbalanced parts? I don't understand what you meant.
We have assembled 3 samples before and didn't find any problem. Maybe it's something that I cannot realize as a problem.
And PC bolt size is M3 x 15mm.
You can use any bolt with that spec.
Here's one tip about worn bolt head.
http://m.blog.naver.com/panday/220035533252
it's wrote in Korean but you can get what you need from pictures :)
Sorry, literally spent the last 3 hours unsoldering all my switches (ruining a couple, gonna need to find salvage some from my ergodox/sampler). So basically when the plate and pcp attached to the top plate, and then I put it on the acrylic/bottom layers, it tilts from the lower left to upper right for me, I was thinking I didnt solder the switches uniformly, so about to try it again, starting by soldering the 4 corners making sure it fits right, and going slowly from there
Post by: megaforce on Fri, 23 September 2016, 02:21:42
(http://i.imgur.com/u3scadb.jpg)
Went with Cherry Clears + 60g gold springs + Krytox 103/205 mix.
Post by: zefyr on Fri, 23 September 2016, 05:41:27
WMP dropped from 120 to 40, but at least she looks pretty!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/u3scadb.jpg)
Went with Cherry Clears + 60g gold springs + Krytox 103/205 mix.
What is WMP?
BTW it looks good :)
Post by: krisst on Fri, 23 September 2016, 06:23:04
WMP dropped from 120 to 40, but at least she looks pretty!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/u3scadb.jpg)
Went with Cherry Clears + 60g gold springs + Krytox 103/205 mix.
What is WMP?
BTW it looks good :)
I think he meant words per min. Typing speed. I could be wrong.
Post by: zefyr on Fri, 23 September 2016, 08:46:56
Yeah, similar issue here.
Well least Im not the only one, thought I was going to have to unsolder the entire board of the switches and try again. Maybe one of the chips doesnt have enough clearance to rest on the acrylic layer? Going to take another look tonight. Also, does anyone know where I can buy more of these plastic screws for the case? They strip very easily >.>
Hmm, could you take picture of unbalanced parts? I don't understand what you meant.
We have assembled 3 samples before and didn't find any problem. Maybe it's something that I cannot realize as a problem.
And PC bolt size is M3 x 15mm.
You can use any bolt with that spec.
Here's one tip about worn bolt head.
http://m.blog.naver.com/panday/220035533252
it's wrote in Korean but you can get what you need from pictures :)
Sorry, literally spent the last 3 hours unsoldering all my switches (ruining a couple, gonna need to find salvage some from my ergodox/sampler). So basically when the plate and pcp attached to the top plate, and then I put it on the acrylic/bottom layers, it tilts from the lower left to upper right for me, I was thinking I didnt solder the switches uniformly, so about to try it again, starting by soldering the 4 corners making sure it fits right, and going slowly from there
It's really confusing to track your posts. Haha :)
I saw your post on MD and replied.
Here's a copy of it.
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Here I understand what "wobbling" means is "bottom side is not perfectly flat", right?
I checked it with my old VE.A, it's fine. And I tested twisting it with my hand. Then the wobbling thing happens.
It looks not a delicate solution but can you try twisting it a little? That might helps.
----------
Post by: zefyr on Fri, 23 September 2016, 08:47:25
WMP dropped from 120 to 40, but at least she looks pretty!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/u3scadb.jpg)
Went with Cherry Clears + 60g gold springs + Krytox 103/205 mix.
What is WMP?
BTW it looks good :)
I think he meant words per min. Typing speed. I could be wrong.
That makes sense, thanks :)
Post by: MajorKoos on Fri, 23 September 2016, 10:38:24
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=445
Post by: megaforce on Fri, 23 September 2016, 10:53:02
WMP dropped from 120 to 40, but at least she looks pretty!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/u3scadb.jpg)
Went with Cherry Clears + 60g gold springs + Krytox 103/205 mix.
What is WMP?
BTW it looks good :)
I think he meant words per min. Typing speed. I could be wrong.
That makes sense, thanks :)
Thanks zefyer! Could I have the 3M part number for the rubber feet that comes with the tenting stand? The clear one.
Post by: jal on Fri, 23 September 2016, 11:26:21
I found a great alternative to the standard SATA cable for connecting the two halves:
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=445
Hah! I ended up with an extra of one of those (in black) that I'm planning to use. Had to rebuild my storage server due to a motherboard death, and Amazon shorted me a cable in my first order. Then they sent two when I whined about it.
Be careful of the connectors - the connector design can put a lot of pressure on the cable if you pull it out carelessly. I ended up (carefully!) using pliers to pull them.
Post by: exitfire401 on Fri, 23 September 2016, 11:48:15
I found a great alternative to the standard SATA cable for connecting the two halves:
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=445
Also on the note of sata cables, cablemod is also now selling pretty cheap sleeved sata cables
Post by: zefyr on Fri, 23 September 2016, 11:50:46
WMP dropped from 120 to 40, but at least she looks pretty!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/u3scadb.jpg)
Went with Cherry Clears + 60g gold springs + Krytox 103/205 mix.
What is WMP?
BTW it looks good :)
I think he meant words per min. Typing speed. I could be wrong.
That makes sense, thanks :)
Thanks zefyer! Could I have the 3M part number for the rubber feet that comes with the tenting stand? The clear one.
I used this with mine.
http://www.tape2000.co.kr/goods/view?no=139
But actually, that bump-on was bought and packed by Massdrop guys. So if you want to be sure, ask them via Massdrop Support.
Post by: zefyr on Fri, 23 September 2016, 11:52:11
I found a great alternative to the standard SATA cable for connecting the two halves:
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=445
Hey it looks cute :)
Post by: adamski07 on Fri, 23 September 2016, 17:55:23
(http://i.imgur.com/eYKLut9.jpg)
Post by: kenshinjeff on Fri, 23 September 2016, 19:44:20
Post by: Azzures on Sat, 24 September 2016, 01:32:07
Yeah, similar issue here.
Well least Im not the only one, thought I was going to have to unsolder the entire board of the switches and try again. Maybe one of the chips doesnt have enough clearance to rest on the acrylic layer? Going to take another look tonight. Also, does anyone know where I can buy more of these plastic screws for the case? They strip very easily >.>
Hmm, could you take picture of unbalanced parts? I don't understand what you meant.
We have assembled 3 samples before and didn't find any problem. Maybe it's something that I cannot realize as a problem.
And PC bolt size is M3 x 15mm.
You can use any bolt with that spec.
Here's one tip about worn bolt head.
http://m.blog.naver.com/panday/220035533252
it's wrote in Korean but you can get what you need from pictures :)
Sorry, literally spent the last 3 hours unsoldering all my switches (ruining a couple, gonna need to find salvage some from my ergodox/sampler). So basically when the plate and pcp attached to the top plate, and then I put it on the acrylic/bottom layers, it tilts from the lower left to upper right for me, I was thinking I didnt solder the switches uniformly, so about to try it again, starting by soldering the 4 corners making sure it fits right, and going slowly from there
It's really confusing to track your posts. Haha :)
I saw your post on MD and replied.
Here's a copy of it.
----------
Here I understand what "wobbling" means is "bottom side is not perfectly flat", right?
I checked it with my old VE.A, it's fine. And I tested twisting it with my hand. Then the wobbling thing happens.
It looks not a delicate solution but can you try twisting it a little? That might helps.
----------
Sorry for the trouble >.< Alls well that ends well right? Got it all assembled and working. Sorry for bad quality photo. Used my spare deep space set, but didnt have an ISO key or caps key so used some I had from a grab bag. Waiting for my Carbon set to come in.
Post by: KetchyKech on Sat, 24 September 2016, 06:57:04
received mine! great work zef & oddforge :thumb:
couple scratches on the plate, but nbd since i plan to wait as long as it takes to get a dedicated alps plate!
Quote
I have to say really sorry for Alps fans since Alps switch mounting plate will not be provided in Massdrop.
I believe all Alps fans can understand why I removed this option.
But I'll explain anyway.
Alps mounting system is very strict about layout.
It has no sustain pins like Cherry MX, and stabilizers is mounted on mounting plate so "Universal Alps plate" cannot be made.
Plus, there's no "Standard" keycap sets for alps (except Matias, but I don't want to limit selection of keycaps.).
So, We will share alps plate drawing on public.
And for who have no access to metalworks shop, we will accept order of Alps plate in our website.
This can make you spend another shipping money. but at this time, I have no better way.
Sorry again and thank you for your understanding in advance :)
take all the time you need to recover!~~ then onto releasing those plate drawings/website orderz! ;D
Post by: megaforce on Sat, 24 September 2016, 14:40:08
Post by: zefyr on Sun, 25 September 2016, 00:05:33
Boosted question, but which column/row is the 1U key that is left of the 2U key on the left unit in bootmapper?
check toggle bootmapper box and hit the key :) It will highlight position.
Post by: megaforce on Sun, 25 September 2016, 00:13:02
Boosted question, but which column/row is the 1U key that is left of the 2U key on the left unit in bootmapper?
Sweet, thank you!
check toggle bootmapper box and hit the key :) It will highlight position.
Post by: ccc24 on Sun, 25 September 2016, 00:13:27
Yeah, similar issue here.
Well least Im not the only one, thought I was going to have to unsolder the entire board of the switches and try again. Maybe one of the chips doesnt have enough clearance to rest on the acrylic layer? Going to take another look tonight. Also, does anyone know where I can buy more of these plastic screws for the case? They strip very easily >.>
was having the same issue. Re-tighten all 4 of those rubbers screws on the back to about the same tightness. If one screw is looser than the other 3 it'll wobble a little. Re-tightened mine, solid as a rock now.
Post by: Data on Mon, 26 September 2016, 14:54:06
Post by: Azzures on Mon, 26 September 2016, 15:14:46
Yeah, similar issue here.
Well least Im not the only one, thought I was going to have to unsolder the entire board of the switches and try again. Maybe one of the chips doesnt have enough clearance to rest on the acrylic layer? Going to take another look tonight. Also, does anyone know where I can buy more of these plastic screws for the case? They strip very easily >.>
was having the same issue. Re-tighten all 4 of those rubbers screws on the back to about the same tightness. If one screw is looser than the other 3 it'll wobble a little. Re-tightened mine, solid as a rock now.
Problem with mine is one wont screw in all the way now, tried rethreading it, but I think theres something wrong with the screw hole now. But the problem is negligible now, just added a thin layer of take to one of the rubber feet. works fine now. Im so happy with it ^.^
Post by: Data on Mon, 26 September 2016, 18:53:07
I see solder pads for them on the bottom of the PCB, but they aren't mentioned in the build guide. Would appreciate any feedback from those who've built theirs already. :)
Post by: hkf on Mon, 26 September 2016, 19:05:26
Are resistors required for the lock indicator LEDs?
I see solder pads for them on the bottom of the PCB, but they aren't mentioned in the build guide. Would appreciate any feedback from those who've built theirs already. :)
I assume yes because there is room for them.
I built mine from r1 of the kr gb with the translated instructions.
Post by: Data on Mon, 26 September 2016, 20:07:53
Are resistors required for the lock indicator LEDs?
I see solder pads for them on the bottom of the PCB, but they aren't mentioned in the build guide. Would appreciate any feedback from those who've built theirs already. :)
I assume yes because there is room for them.
I built mine from r1 of the kr gb with the translated instructions.
Did they cover resistors for the lock indicators in those instructions?
Post by: hkf on Mon, 26 September 2016, 20:25:00
Are resistors required for the lock indicator LEDs?
I see solder pads for them on the bottom of the PCB, but they aren't mentioned in the build guide. Would appreciate any feedback from those who've built theirs already. :)
I assume yes because there is room for them.
I built mine from r1 of the kr gb with the translated instructions.
Did they cover resistors for the lock indicators in those instructions?
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=3152205&mid=board_tune&document_srl=3216765
Post by: exitfire401 on Mon, 26 September 2016, 20:54:41
Post by: Data on Mon, 26 September 2016, 21:15:12
Are resistors required for the lock indicator LEDs?
I see solder pads for them on the bottom of the PCB, but they aren't mentioned in the build guide. Would appreciate any feedback from those who've built theirs already. :)
I assume yes because there is room for them.
I built mine from r1 of the kr gb with the translated instructions.
Did they cover resistors for the lock indicators in those instructions?
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=3152205&mid=board_tune&document_srl=3216765
Thanks. Much better photos there. I can clearly see the resistors.
I didn't have SMD resistors for my chosen LEDs so I just cut the legs short on a few thru-hole resistors and everything is working fine. The lock indicators are incredibly bright. :P
Post by: Vypr on Mon, 26 September 2016, 21:29:06
Are resistors required for the lock indicator LEDs?
I see solder pads for them on the bottom of the PCB, but they aren't mentioned in the build guide. Would appreciate any feedback from those who've built theirs already. :)
I assume yes because there is room for them.
I built mine from r1 of the kr gb with the translated instructions.
Did they cover resistors for the lock indicators in those instructions?
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=3152205&mid=board_tune&document_srl=3216765
Thank you, those pics will be helpful
Post by: hkf on Mon, 26 September 2016, 21:45:58
Not sure if i missed, but were there instructions for assembling the tented stand? I feel like I'm trying to put legos together without documentation haha. Also, same question with the lock leds. Any suggestions for resistors for the locks?
depends on colour but I'd just go 1k
Post by: zefyr on Mon, 26 September 2016, 23:18:51
Our recommended resistor is over 330ohm~910ohm depending what LED you use and what bright you prefer :)
It's your choice
Post by: litster on Tue, 27 September 2016, 01:27:44
Post by: briannnn on Tue, 27 September 2016, 02:32:40
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 27 September 2016, 02:40:50
Post by: krisst on Tue, 27 September 2016, 04:03:53
- 0603 910 ohm SMD Resistor 5% 1/10W 910R 910ohm Chip Surface Mount Resistor ROHS
- 0402 910 ohm SMD Resistor 1% 1/16W 910R 910ohm Chip Surface Mount Resistor ROHS
- 0805 910 ohm SMD Resistor 1% 1/8W
Might have more type than what I listed. Any idea which percentage and wattage rating to get?
Thanks
Post by: Data on Tue, 27 September 2016, 06:54:28
We apologize that didn't describe SMT option specific.
Our recommended resistor is over 330ohm~910ohm depending what LED you use and what bright you prefer :)
It's your choice
Too late! :P Using 100-200 ohm resistors on my lock indicators and they're fine. There are only 3 of them so they're pulling a negligible current - maybe 50mA total and only when all 3 are lit.
Post by: zefyr on Tue, 27 September 2016, 12:14:19
You are right :)We apologize that didn't describe SMT option specific.
Our recommended resistor is over 330ohm~910ohm depending what LED you use and what bright you prefer :)
It's your choice
Too late! :P Using 100-200 ohm resistors on my lock indicators and they're fine. There are only 3 of them so they're pulling a negligible current - maybe 50mA total and only when all 3 are lit.
Post by: zefyr on Tue, 27 September 2016, 12:16:22
I looked up aliexpress for 910ohm smd resistors. There seems to have more than 1 type.0805 is what Vergo type.T-II uses. 1%/5% means precision which is not a big deal for LED.
- 0603 910 ohm SMD Resistor 5% 1/10W 910R 910ohm Chip Surface Mount Resistor ROHS
- 0402 910 ohm SMD Resistor 1% 1/16W 910R 910ohm Chip Surface Mount Resistor ROHS
- 0805 910 ohm SMD Resistor 1% 1/8W
Might have more type than what I listed. Any idea which percentage and wattage rating to get?
Thanks
Post by: litster on Tue, 27 September 2016, 12:26:37
Post by: Data on Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:21:42
(http://i.imgur.com/Y73YNMC.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/i763bv5.jpg?1)
Sorry for potato quality.
Post by: zefyr on Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:25:22
Added resource page on website.
http://oddforge.com/product/vea_resource (http://oddforge.com/product/vea_resource)
You can download Alps switch mounting plate example.
Note,
We cannot offer mounting plate layout design service. It's almost impossible.
If you are familiar with Alps, you know that already :)
We can offer basic layout only, which is in the example design file.
It uses one Apple Ext (M0115 or M3501) and one Standard (M0116) keysets.
So, please use it only you are familiar with Alps and CAD.
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:30:07
Post by: zefyr on Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:31:38
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Sorry for potato quality.
Hey you did it very nicely :)
Hope you enjoy VE.A.
Thanks for your support buddy.
Post by: krisst on Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:35:09
I looked up aliexpress for 910ohm smd resistors. There seems to have more than 1 type.0805 is what Vergo type.T-II uses. 1%/5% means precision which is not a big deal for LED.
- 0603 910 ohm SMD Resistor 5% 1/10W 910R 910ohm Chip Surface Mount Resistor ROHS
- 0402 910 ohm SMD Resistor 1% 1/16W 910R 910ohm Chip Surface Mount Resistor ROHS
- 0805 910 ohm SMD Resistor 1% 1/8W
Might have more type than what I listed. Any idea which percentage and wattage rating to get?
Thanks
Alright, will order that. Thank you!
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Sorry for potato quality.
I need a set of sky dolch... Looks great!
Post by: Data on Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:36:43
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Sorry for potato quality.
Hey you did it very nicely :)
Hope you enjoy VE.A.
Thanks for your support buddy.
:thumb: I'm really enjoying it a lot so far. It wouldn't be possible without your and your team's tireless dedication and attention to detail. Congrats on an amazing first group buy. I look forward to seeing what you come up with next. ;)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 27 September 2016, 14:55:17
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Sorry for potato quality.
Hey you did it very nicely :)
Hope you enjoy VE.A.
Thanks for your support buddy.
I cannot get enough of what I am seeing of the VE.A, I so profoundly hope we will see a round 2 of these, exactly the same design, they are perfect. You created an amazing design that was so well realized with a wonderful attention to detail and didn't have to sacrifice style or functionality to any critical level. Love it! Keep the pictures coming guys!!!
Post by: MandrewDavis on Tue, 27 September 2016, 17:03:34
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Sorry for potato quality.
Hey you did it very nicely :)
Hope you enjoy VE.A.
Thanks for your support buddy.
I cannot get enough of what I am seeing of the VE.A, I so profoundly hope we will see a round 2 of these, exactly the same design, they are perfect. You created an amazing design that was so well realized with a wonderful attention to detail and didn't have to sacrifice style or functionality to any critical level. Love it! Keep the pictures coming guys!!!
I am hoping for something a little different if OddForge looks to make more projects in the future. There should be extras for sale in the coming weeks.
Post by: redbanshee on Tue, 27 September 2016, 18:05:32
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Sorry for potato quality.
Where did you score those grey blanks for the spacebar, etc? Are they GMK?
Post by: briannnn on Tue, 27 September 2016, 18:50:05
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Sorry for potato quality.
Where did you score those grey blanks for the spacebar, etc? Are they GMK?
Not sure what he's using, but I have the dark gray blank PBT Gateron set and it matches Sky Dolch pretty perfectly. Also sorry for potato.
(http://i.imgur.com/Y64F0jQ.jpg)
Post by: Data on Wed, 28 September 2016, 08:25:23
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Sorry for potato quality.
Where did you score those grey blanks for the spacebar, etc? Are they GMK?
Same as briannnn above. They're part of a blank PBT set from Shadovved's group buy. They match the GMK Sky Dolch set perfectly - row profile, sculpt, color, even material thickness and underside support structure are a perfect match. The ONLY difference is the side texture. GMK is smooth/glossy where Gateron/EnjoyPBT is textured/matte. But you have to get super close to notice. And of course GMK is ABS vs PBT. :D
Post by: litster on Fri, 30 September 2016, 01:08:04
H J K L :
5 keys in a row are not working. Maybe a line is disconnected somewhere?
Post by: hkf on Fri, 30 September 2016, 01:26:54
Hi everyone. Need some help here. I got the left half one done and it is working fine. Just finished the right half. All the keys are working except
H J K L :
5 keys in a row are not working. Maybe a line is disconnected somewhere?
I've had a similar issue, F7-F11 weren't registering. Cleaned my PCB and it was all fine.
No idea as to the real cause, though. HTH
Post by: litster on Fri, 30 September 2016, 01:28:21
Post by: JDragon on Fri, 30 September 2016, 01:33:05
Looks like I won't be able to build mine until November since I'm waiting on some Zeal parts :(
Yup. Same for me too. Ordered some stabs. Hopefully VE.A package will arrive safely and everything is perfect, PCB is working, etc. Would be good to make sure to test the PCB, check the casing even if you are not building it yet. I think by Nov, any spare VE.A from zefyr might be put up for sale for any interested buyers, not confirm, just my thought.
That is a good point, I'll be sure to do that.
Good point :)
We will save spares for unexpected accident.
And put them on sale after 2~3 weeks later.
Is there an ETA for extras? I missed the GB and I can't get over how beautiful the board looks. I've got to have one! You guys did an amazing job with this.
Post by: litster on Sat, 01 October 2016, 00:29:29
Hi everyone. Need some help here. I got the left half one done and it is working fine. Just finished the right half. All the keys are working except
H J K L :
5 keys in a row are not working. Maybe a line is disconnected somewhere?
Anyone? Something is wrong with Column 3, 9 to 13.
H Col:3 Row:9
J Col:3 Row:10
K Col:3 Row:11
L Col:3 Row:12
: Col:3 Row:13
Anyone? Zefyr?
Post by: exitfire401 on Sat, 01 October 2016, 00:35:33
Hi everyone. Need some help here. I got the left half one done and it is working fine. Just finished the right half. All the keys are working except
H J K L :
5 keys in a row are not working. Maybe a line is disconnected somewhere?
Anyone? Something is wrong with Column 3, 9 to 13.
H Col:3 Row:9
J Col:3 Row:10
K Col:3 Row:11
L Col:3 Row:12
: Col:3 Row:13
Anyone? Zefyr?
I've got nothing =( Haven't assembled mine yet
Post by: litster on Sat, 01 October 2016, 02:15:09
I spent the whole night using a multi-meter to see if I could figure anything out. I noticed that on most rows, the bottom end of the diodes on the same row connects to each other, except the HJKL; row. And I checked that they do connect between ; L K J H, but not between " and ;.
(http://i.imgur.com/i3pexVJ.jpg)
At first I thought the via was plugged and causing the problem, but when I looked closer, the trace is actually disconnected (at the red rectangle). I jumped and connected these points and looks like all the keys are working now.
(http://i.imgur.com/JRrocIM.jpg)
I am glad I fixed it. But I am mad that the PCB is defective, and caused me so much grief...
Can I get a replacement PCB?
Post by: krisst on Sat, 01 October 2016, 09:14:08
Holy ****! I found a defect on the PCB and fixed it. I need Oddforge or Zefyr to confirm this is a good fix.
I spent the whole night using a multi-meter to see if I could figure anything out. I noticed that on most rows, the bottom end of the diodes on the same row connects to each other, except the HJKL; row. And I checked that they do connect between ; L K J H, but not between " and ;.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/i3pexVJ.jpg)
At first I thought the via was plugged and causing the problem, but when I looked closer, the trace is actually disconnected (at the red rectangle). I jumped and connected these points and looks like all the keys are working now.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JRrocIM.jpg)
I am glad I fixed it. But I am mad that the PCB is defective, and caused me so much grief...
Can I get a replacement PCB?
I have not build my kb yet and checked the area marked in red. There is indeed a connection. I guess the PCB you received do have defects. Does it work now though, with the jumper?
Hope you get replacement if possible.
Post by: exitfire401 on Sat, 01 October 2016, 09:21:27
Holy ****! I found a defect on the PCB and fixed it. I need Oddforge or Zefyr to confirm this is a good fix.
I spent the whole night using a multi-meter to see if I could figure anything out. I noticed that on most rows, the bottom end of the diodes on the same row connects to each other, except the HJKL; row. And I checked that they do connect between ; L K J H, but not between " and ;.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/i3pexVJ.jpg)
At first I thought the via was plugged and causing the problem, but when I looked closer, the trace is actually disconnected (at the red rectangle). I jumped and connected these points and looks like all the keys are working now.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JRrocIM.jpg)
I am glad I fixed it. But I am mad that the PCB is defective, and caused me so much grief...
Can I get a replacement PCB?
I'd shoot the oddforge team an email. Email address is on the site and zefyr has posted it a page back on the thread as well.
Post by: exitfire401 on Sat, 01 October 2016, 12:39:43
Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 01 October 2016, 13:24:45
Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 01 October 2016, 14:44:24
Post by: litster on Sat, 01 October 2016, 17:24:48
I have not build my kb yet and checked the area marked in red. There is indeed a connection. I guess the PCB you received do have defects. Does it work now though, with the jumper?
Hope you get replacement if possible.
Thanks for checking this on your PCB. I definitely have a defective PCB. With jumper it is working. But the jumper shouldn't be there. I wonder if there are more defective PCBs shipped to buyers.
I'd shoot the oddforge team an email. Email address is on the site and zefyr has posted it a page back on the thread as well.
I will give that a try. Thanks.
BTW, anyone knows where I can find the keymapper user guide? The link [http://oddforge.com/product/vea_userguide (http://oddforge.com/product/vea_userguide)] on oddforge.com is broken.
Post by: MandrewDavis on Sat, 01 October 2016, 23:18:55
BTW, anyone knows where I can find the keymapper user guide? The link http://oddforge.com/product/vea_userguide (http://oddforge.com/product/vea_userguide) on oddforge.com is broken.
Link to the Bootmapper programming guide (http://imgur.com/a/Jbdh4) created by XX7.
Post by: litster on Sun, 02 October 2016, 01:23:01
Link to the Bootmapper programming guide (http://imgur.com/a/Jbdh4) created by XX7.
Thanks! I also found and other guide: http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183
Post by: zefyr on Sun, 02 October 2016, 03:10:12
Holy ****! I found a defect on the PCB and fixed it. I need Oddforge or Zefyr to confirm this is a good fix.
I spent the whole night using a multi-meter to see if I could figure anything out. I noticed that on most rows, the bottom end of the diodes on the same row connects to each other, except the HJKL; row. And I checked that they do connect between ; L K J H, but not between " and ;.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/i3pexVJ.jpg)
At first I thought the via was plugged and causing the problem, but when I looked closer, the trace is actually disconnected (at the red rectangle). I jumped and connected these points and looks like all the keys are working now.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JRrocIM.jpg)
I am glad I fixed it. But I am mad that the PCB is defective, and caused me so much grief...
Can I get a replacement PCB?
Sorry for late response!
I'm gonna check your picture and test it with stock PCB.
And reply as soon as possible!
Post by: zefyr on Sun, 02 October 2016, 03:27:07
Holy ****! I found a defect on the PCB and fixed it. I need Oddforge or Zefyr to confirm this is a good fix.
I spent the whole night using a multi-meter to see if I could figure anything out. I noticed that on most rows, the bottom end of the diodes on the same row connects to each other, except the HJKL; row. And I checked that they do connect between ; L K J H, but not between " and ;.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/i3pexVJ.jpg)
At first I thought the via was plugged and causing the problem, but when I looked closer, the trace is actually disconnected (at the red rectangle). I jumped and connected these points and looks like all the keys are working now.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JRrocIM.jpg)
I am glad I fixed it. But I am mad that the PCB is defective, and caused me so much grief...
Can I get a replacement PCB?
Sorry for late response!
I'm gonna check your picture and test it with stock PCB.
And reply as soon as possible!
Your fix is correct.
I sent you a PM. :) We can talk about aftercare there.
PS :
Oddforge team is very surprised that you found that disconnection and fixed it by yourself.
We heard about that can happen very rarely, but seen it first time.
We finally know that why this forum is named "geekhack".
Four thumbs up mate-geek.
Post by: litster on Mon, 03 October 2016, 19:33:41
Meanwhile, I need a good short spacebar (2.75x?). That long shift key is hurting my thumb. I flipped it upside down and it doesn't hurt as much, but it is still a little weird.
Best ergo keyboard ever IMO. And I have a lot of ergo keyboards. Love the acrylic tent. Really well designed. It is made of acrylic but there is no flex!
Post by: zefyr on Tue, 04 October 2016, 00:16:47
Got in touch with zefyr. He is going to take care of it. Thanks zefyr!
Meanwhile, I need a good short spacebar (2.75x?). That long shift key is hurting my thumb. I flipped it upside down and it doesn't hurt as much, but it is still a little weird.
Best ergo keyboard ever IMO. And I have a lot of ergo keyboards. Love the acrylic tent. Really well designed. It is made of acrylic but there is no flex!
I have tried SP's DSA with space (mixing with DCS) and that worked for me :)
Post by: zefyr on Tue, 04 October 2016, 01:02:50
That VE.A is traded very high prices.
In ROK, overprice trading is a kind of taboo.
So we didn't expect something like this.
Is there somebody who can give the information of that tradings for us?
We wanted to people actually typing with VE.A... not for aftermatket profits...
Maybe this is something we should accept as culture difference. Hmm...
Post by: renzpwns on Tue, 04 October 2016, 04:32:28
Recently I heard something about aftermarket.Yeah, happens quite a bit in this hobby. Korean kustoms, artisans, keysets etc.
That VE.A is traded very high prices.
In ROK, overprice trading is a kind of taboo.
So we didn't expect something like this.
Is there somebody who can give the information of that tradings for us?
We wanted to people actually typing with VE.A... not for aftermatket profits...
Maybe this is something we should accept as culture difference. Hmm...
Post by: Auxo on Tue, 04 October 2016, 04:57:24
Recently I heard something about aftermarket.Yeah, happens quite a bit in this hobby. Korean kustoms, artisans, keysets etc.
That VE.A is traded very high prices.
In ROK, overprice trading is a kind of taboo.
So we didn't expect something like this.
Is there somebody who can give the information of that tradings for us?
We wanted to people actually typing with VE.A... not for aftermatket profits...
Maybe this is something we should accept as culture difference. Hmm...
I'm surprised you haven't heard about this lol, with OTD boards skyrocketing in value and even the VE.A reaching prices of around $750 around now.
Post by: DormantLemon on Tue, 04 October 2016, 05:40:40
I feel awful missing the drop, as there is no way I'm willing to pay this kind of ludicrous surcharge or support those that do it.
Post by: MajorKoos on Tue, 04 October 2016, 10:55:57
Recently I heard something about aftermarket.
That VE.A is traded very high prices.
In ROK, overprice trading is a kind of taboo.
So we didn't expect something like this.
Is there somebody who can give the information of that tradings for us?
We wanted to people actually typing with VE.A... not for aftermatket profits...
Maybe this is something we should accept as culture difference. Hmm...
I feel the same way about someone selling their VE.A to make a quick buck.
It feels disrespectful of the time and passion that went into it.
The person who paid $750 for the VE.A on the other hand sounds like someone who will appreciate it, so at least it got a better home.
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 04 October 2016, 11:12:41
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 04 October 2016, 11:33:18
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 04 October 2016, 14:29:44
Post by: litster on Tue, 04 October 2016, 15:23:52
I have tried SP's DSA with space (mixing with DCS) and that worked for me :)
I am getting more comfortable with the upside-down long shift key as my right spacebar. Last time I checked the shortest spacebar Signature Plastics makes is 4x long spacebar. Are there enough interests to have SP make a new mold for a 2.75x spacebar?
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Tue, 04 October 2016, 16:00:20
I have tried SP's DSA with space (mixing with DCS) and that worked for me :)
I am getting more comfortable with the upside-down long shift key as my right spacebar. Last time I checked the shortest spacebar Signature Plastics makes is 4x long spacebar. Are there enough interests to have SP make a new mold for a 2.75x spacebar?
dunno if you have seen this, but i would encourage everyone to get involved in this -
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82737
Post by: litster on Tue, 04 October 2016, 17:29:53
dunno if you have seen this, but i would encourage everyone to get involved in this -
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82737
Thanks for the heads up, I posted there.
Post by: kenshinjeff on Fri, 07 October 2016, 23:02:38
where can I find the MX plate file?
I'm actually also looking for the MX plate CAD file, I want to make the switches removable. Can ZeFyr help with this?
Post by: MandrewDavis on Sat, 08 October 2016, 01:52:52
where can I find the MX plate file?
I'm actually also looking for the MX plate CAD file, I want to make the switches removable. Can ZeFyr help with this?
Depending on what machinery you have access to, it could be around the same price to hotlite socket your keyboard including leds.
Post by: wodan on Sun, 09 October 2016, 15:44:43
Had to build them using the Korean instructions ... but still got it right the first time!
Switches are vintage MX Blacks with 45gr. springs, Cherry dyesub keycaps (SAD) with GMK RGB modifiers. Hope you like it!
(http://i.imgur.com/JAaGRHi.jpg)
Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 09 October 2016, 15:46:33
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sun, 09 October 2016, 15:59:48
Been using my VE.A for about two weeks now and keep getting better at it. My first split layout keyboard, glad I got the tenting stands ;)
Had to build them using the Korean instructions ... but still got it right the first time!
Switches are vintage MX Blacks with 45gr. springs, Cherry dyesub keycaps (SAD) with GMK RGB modifiers. Hope you like it!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JAaGRHi.jpg)
I really wish I had the money to get in on the MD buy. Your board looks awesome and the tenting stands definitely seem to be beneficial.
Post by: Jaceun on Sun, 09 October 2016, 16:50:21
Can anyone confirm that the following photo is the correct assembly for the lock LEDs, with the resistor in place? And for the LED polarity, that the + lead is on the left, from this perspective?
Thanks in advance!
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161009/66378dd758b3b02f11600df89b0f1c79.jpg)
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 09 October 2016, 16:56:56
Post by: Jaceun on Sun, 09 October 2016, 17:27:09
Seeking a little advice before I finally start my soldering. This will be my first DIY board, and the number of mistakes I have made in other hobbies has taught me not to make assumptions about assembly.
Can anyone confirm that the following photo is the correct assembly for the lock LEDs, with the resistor in place? And for the LED polarity, that the + lead is on the left, from this perspective?
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just so you know, LEDs in backwards will not hurt anything as they are in fact diodes which emit light. So you can just plug in the PCB to test if they are on (though the switches for the Leds caps lock etc. might need to be pushed.)
Thanks for the reply! If it's not obvious by now, my knowledge of electronics is astonishingly low for someone interested in something like custom keyboards. I'll take your advice and just see if it works in their configuration.
Is the resistor in the right spot? I can't see a reason for it to be anywhere else, but my inexperience is making me figure these things out beforehand because I hate hate hate desoldering. :)
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Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 09 October 2016, 17:48:23
Post by: MajorKoos on Sun, 09 October 2016, 19:17:27
Seeking a little advice before I finally start my soldering. This will be my first DIY board, and the number of mistakes I have made in other hobbies has taught me not to make assumptions about assembly.
Can anyone confirm that the following photo is the correct assembly for the lock LEDs, with the resistor in place? And for the LED polarity, that the + lead is on the left, from this perspective?
Thanks in advance!Show Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161009/66378dd758b3b02f11600df89b0f1c79.jpg)
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just so you know, LEDs in backwards will not hurt anything as they are in fact diodes which emit light. So you can just plug in the PCB to test if they are on (though the switches for the Leds caps lock etc. might need to be pushed.)
Thanks for the reply! If it's not obvious by now, my knowledge of electronics is astonishingly low for someone interested in something like custom keyboards. I'll take your advice and just see if it works in their configuration.
Is the resistor in the right spot? I can't see a reason for it to be anywhere else, but my inexperience is making me figure these things out beforehand because I hate hate hate desoldering. :)
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unlike the LED, the resistor is not polarized. it doesn't matter which way you solder it. Provided that's the right part you're good
I think the resistors are supposed to go on the other side (back) on the pads marked R8, R9 and R10.
The markings on the front imply the pads there are meant for diodes, or more likely, SMD LEDs.
Post by: Data on Sun, 09 October 2016, 19:23:28
Seeking a little advice before I finally start my soldering. This will be my first DIY board, and the number of mistakes I have made in other hobbies has taught me not to make assumptions about assembly.
Can anyone confirm that the following photo is the correct assembly for the lock LEDs, with the resistor in place? And for the LED polarity, that the + lead is on the left, from this perspective?
Thanks in advance!Show Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161009/66378dd758b3b02f11600df89b0f1c79.jpg)
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just so you know, LEDs in backwards will not hurt anything as they are in fact diodes which emit light. So you can just plug in the PCB to test if they are on (though the switches for the Leds caps lock etc. might need to be pushed.)
Thanks for the reply! If it's not obvious by now, my knowledge of electronics is astonishingly low for someone interested in something like custom keyboards. I'll take your advice and just see if it works in their configuration.
Is the resistor in the right spot? I can't see a reason for it to be anywhere else, but my inexperience is making me figure these things out beforehand because I hate hate hate desoldering. :)
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unlike the LED, the resistor is not polarized. it doesn't matter which way you solder it. Provided that's the right part you're good
I think the resistors are supposed to go on the other side (back) on the pads marked R8, R9 and R10.
The markings on the front imply the pads there are meant for diodes, or more likely, SMD LEDs.
That's correct. LEDs only on the top of the PCB. Resistors go on the bottom.
Post by: chalks on Sun, 09 October 2016, 19:26:59
Post by: Jaceun on Sun, 09 October 2016, 19:46:07
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Post by: MajorKoos on Sun, 09 October 2016, 20:04:02
Thanks for the help everyone! Indeed, the resistors do go on the backside. Had them soldered on the front with no results. Removed those and put new ones on the back and all lock indicators worked without a hitch!Show Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161010/0e98319b21be199de4d313db5520daa5.jpg)
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Excellent!
If your hands are steady enough for SMD resistors the rest will be easy.
Good skills.
Remember to do the stabilizers before soldering it all together ;)
Post by: Jaceun on Sun, 09 October 2016, 20:26:05
Thanks for the help everyone! Indeed, the resistors do go on the backside. Had them soldered on the front with no results. Removed those and put new ones on the back and all lock indicators worked without a hitch!
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Excellent!
If your hands are steady enough for SMD resistors the rest will be easy.
Good skills.
Remember to do the stabilizers before soldering it all together ;)
Funny you should mention the stabilizers. Just before this I assembled a numberpad from MD which also recently arrived. It had all the resistors etc. presoldered, so it was just switches and LEDs that needed to be soldered. It came with a plate though, so I assumed the stabilizers would be plate mount, in my ignorance. I had already soldered some switches when a little research revealed my folly. I suck at desoldering so I actually managed to install the PCB mounted stabilizers through/under the plate, metal bar and all. It was AWFUL but it's now all working as it should.
I will not be making the same mistake with my VE.A and I am glad I used the numpad as a skill builder. All the troubleshooting has also made me quite familiar with the bootmapper too, so a final build isn't far off now!
Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 09 October 2016, 21:00:16
Post by: Tre3Cycl3S on Mon, 10 October 2016, 04:03:32
Post by: wodan on Mon, 10 October 2016, 04:11:05
Sorry if this is a really stupid question, but how do you split the PCB from the guide parts? The instructions on oddforge simply says split, and I am not sure if that means I can just apply force or if I should cut the PCB out from the guide parts...
Break the frame parts off, this shouldn't require much force and hardly ever fails. Use some flat nose plier to grab the frame for a better lever if you must.
Post by: Data on Mon, 10 October 2016, 09:49:53
Sorry if this is a really stupid question, but how do you split the PCB from the guide parts? The instructions on oddforge simply says split, and I am not sure if that means I can just apply force or if I should cut the PCB out from the guide parts...
Break the frame parts off, this shouldn't require much force and hardly ever fails. Use some flat nose plier to grab the frame for a better lever if you must.
Can confirm, any type of pliers on the outer frame portion of the PCB makes removing it MUCH easier. Just grab near the perforated joint and twist. It snaps off cleanly.
Post by: Tre3Cycl3S on Mon, 10 October 2016, 12:47:19
Sorry if this is a really stupid question, but how do you split the PCB from the guide parts? The instructions on oddforge simply says split, and I am not sure if that means I can just apply force or if I should cut the PCB out from the guide parts...
Break the frame parts off, this shouldn't require much force and hardly ever fails. Use some flat nose plier to grab the frame for a better lever if you must.
Can confirm, any type of pliers on the outer frame portion of the PCB makes removing it MUCH easier. Just grab near the perforated joint and twist. It snaps off cleanly.
Thanks wodan and Data! I will give it a try later today!! :)
Post by: kenshinjeff on Tue, 11 October 2016, 00:25:37
where can I find the MX plate file?
I'm actually also looking for the MX plate CAD file, I want to make the switches removable. Can ZeFyr help with this?
Depending on what machinery you have access to, it could be around the same price to hotlite socket your keyboard including leds.
Could you kindly explain to me what do you mean by hotlite socket? I am not aware of this terminology.
Post by: renzpwns on Tue, 11 October 2016, 00:49:02
It's pretty much putting holtite sockets on the switch pin holes to make them hot swappable. As seen here https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/558zuj/switch_swappable_jd45/where can I find the MX plate file?
I'm actually also looking for the MX plate CAD file, I want to make the switches removable. Can ZeFyr help with this?
Depending on what machinery you have access to, it could be around the same price to hotlite socket your keyboard including leds.
Could you kindly explain to me what do you mean by hotlite socket? I am not aware of this terminology.
This should be the part: https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/8134-HC-8P3/A114359-ND/1151726
Post by: Pinecone on Tue, 11 October 2016, 01:32:40
Post by: MandrewDavis on Tue, 11 October 2016, 01:46:52
Hey, it's my hobby :) please do not forget that.
Some guys already talks about another round.
That is "A LOT OF PRESSURE" on me.
I absolutely have NO plan for another round.
I have NO plan to sell VE.A on my website, yet.
Post by: E3E on Tue, 11 October 2016, 01:55:42
where can I find the MX plate file?
I'm actually also looking for the MX plate CAD file, I want to make the switches removable. Can ZeFyr help with this?
Depending on what machinery you have access to, it could be around the same price to hotlite socket your keyboard including leds.
Could you kindly explain to me what do you mean by hotlite socket? I am not aware of this terminology.
My build log for my hot swappable Alps 60% board has a lot of useful info, but mainly pertains to anyone who might be interested in doing this for Alps.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=77497.0
But yeah, holtite sockets are sockets (one of many) that can be used for making switches and LEDs hot swappable via the PCB itself (no need for SIP socketing switches if you use holtites).
Very easy to install in Cherry boards, but a bit of a hurdle for Alps. Still doable if you have the patience.
Post by: zefyr on Tue, 11 October 2016, 02:36:32
Hi Geeks!
We think initial customer care is almost over now :)
As you knows already, there's some request about round 2 or releasing leftovers.
Here's our plan for it.
We produced 20% more products for customer care.
It's been a while you guys received your VE.A already.
We think initial customer care is all set by now.
Our plan was releasing it on domestic (kbdlab) first and releasing 2nd on GH if there's leftovers.
So we ran domestic limited GB on ROK(which is announced before :) with those 20% of leftovers.
Our plan was release leftovers from that on GH as R2.
We expected 10~12 sales but there's more than we expected.
All leftovers are gone.
Now we only have B-stock left.
We produced over double of orders because of bad quality issue that you already knows (and was huge pain in everyone's bottom side :)
We ensured 20% leftovers for customer care.
Wow, that was just two line that we spent for 3 months struggling.
Anyway, there was 6~7 batches and there's always some parts which contains minor issues.
Which contains minor dents of scratches, or slight color difference on each parts.
We didn't sent back parts with issues to factory yet.
That's what I meant by B-stock.
We need to check out your interests about it.
We will release those with discount if there's somebody who wants it. (around 20% from our MSRP)
We do apologize that we didn't prepared enough quantity.
We thought 2 weeks from MD was enough peroid but it clearly was not.
Please leave post here if you have interests of it.
Post by: E3E on Tue, 11 October 2016, 02:50:45
Post by: JDragon on Tue, 11 October 2016, 03:10:20
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 11 October 2016, 03:22:23
Post by: zefyr on Tue, 11 October 2016, 03:30:22
Might be interested in B stock depending on what the issues are and what colors are available.
Color options are same silver/grey/black limited quantity. we are counting available parts.
some parts are really minor, we almost sure, one out of three person can find defection.
It's like
- scratches can be seen with direct bright sunshine reflex
- small dent on surface
- noticible scratch or unfinished-machine-cutting-trace on bottom plate
- some major scratches on backside which will not be seen when using it
We will upload picture when it's up.
Actually, we don't think this defection is A issue to almost everyone who need this for practical using.
What we really worried about is... turning into a normal one on aftermarket.
We have to protect our friends' feeling who paid whole price for it, and we are thinking about protections.
(This DOES not means I'm for highly overcharged price on aftermatket.)
Post by: DormantLemon on Tue, 11 October 2016, 03:32:47
Post by: Pinecone on Tue, 11 October 2016, 03:36:48
Post by: Gajible on Tue, 11 October 2016, 03:42:15
Might be interested in B stock depending on what the issues are and what colors are available.
Color options are same silver/grey/black limited quantity. we are counting available parts.
some parts are really minor, we almost sure, one out of three person can find defection.
It's like
- scratches can be seen with direct bright sunshine reflex
- small dent on surface
- noticible scratch or unfinished-machine-cutting-trace on bottom plate
- some major scratches on backside which will not be seen when using it
We will upload picture when it's up.
Actually, we don't think this defection is A issue to almost everyone who need this for practical using.
What we really worried about is... turning into a normal one on aftermarket.
We have to protect our friends' feeling who paid whole price for it, and we are thinking about protections.
(This DOES not means I'm for highly overcharged price on aftermatket.)
Why not mark them as B stock? A little marking or intentional scratch on the inside of the cases is all you'd need!
Post by: E3E on Tue, 11 October 2016, 03:54:06
Post by: zefyr on Tue, 11 October 2016, 04:01:02
That might be a plan :)Might be interested in B stock depending on what the issues are and what colors are available.
Color options are same silver/grey/black limited quantity. we are counting available parts.
some parts are really minor, we almost sure, one out of three person can find defection.
It's like
- scratches can be seen with direct bright sunshine reflex
- small dent on surface
- noticible scratch or unfinished-machine-cutting-trace on bottom plate
- some major scratches on backside which will not be seen when using it
We will upload picture when it's up.
Actually, we don't think this defection is A issue to almost everyone who need this for practical using.
What we really worried about is... turning into a normal one on aftermarket.
We have to protect our friends' feeling who paid whole price for it, and we are thinking about protections.
(This DOES not means I'm for highly overcharged price on aftermatket.)
Why not mark them as B stock? A little marking or intentional scratch on the inside of the cases is all you'd need!
Post by: wodan on Tue, 11 October 2016, 04:06:43
...
In ROK, overprice trading is a kind of taboo.
...
I wish that was stigmatized more in the EU/US communities as well. One of the main reasons why I am having problems selling some of my recycling center finds at awesome prices publicly is because some of them show up for 2x-4x the price in some member-to-member section somewhere.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 11 October 2016, 06:40:37
One of the main reasons why I am having problems selling some of my recycling center finds at awesome prices publicly is because some of them show up for 2x-4x the price in some member-to-member section somewhere.
Just sell them to me for an awesome price if you are afraid some mechmarket lurker just wants to flip them for a quick buck :thumb: I am never lucky at recycling centers :'(
Post by: jal on Tue, 11 October 2016, 09:02:08
In the alternative, if the CAD files for the plate show up, I'm fine cutting my own.
Post by: Saiph on Tue, 11 October 2016, 09:52:55
Post by: E3E on Tue, 11 October 2016, 11:43:17
...
In ROK, overprice trading is a kind of taboo.
...
I wish that was stigmatized more in the EU/US communities as well. One of the main reasons why I am having problems selling some of my recycling center finds at awesome prices publicly is because some of them show up for 2x-4x the price in some member-to-member section somewhere.
Yep, it's a very opportunistic market. I mean, look how much key cap sets go for, both vintage Cherry and aftermarket sets. It's pretty frustrating to see, but there are a lot of reasons people do sell. Sometimes out of necessity, and I can't blame them, but I do dislike the inflation it causes.
That said, I know boards like OTDs sell for very high prices even on the Korean market, so I'm unsure about that.
Post by: HouseofSuffering on Tue, 11 October 2016, 11:53:39
Post by: JDragon on Tue, 11 October 2016, 13:05:14
I planned on refinishing mine a different color. As long as the B-stock damage isn't harsh (deep dent, a mark that refinishing cannot repair), I would be okay with that. I've always wanted a VE.A in another color, one not offered in the GB.
That's a great idea. I'd love to pick up a B-stock one and do some mods to it - really give it some personality and make it mine. :D
Which color would the best for something like re-anodizing or powder coating? Or does it not matter?
Post by: tripandfall426 on Tue, 11 October 2016, 13:47:14
Post by: E3E on Tue, 11 October 2016, 14:06:31
I planned on refinishing mine a different color. As long as the B-stock damage isn't harsh (deep dent, a mark that refinishing cannot repair), I would be okay with that. I've always wanted a VE.A in another color, one not offered in the GB.
That's a great idea. I'd love to pick up a B-stock one and do some mods to it - really give it some personality and make it mine. :D
Which color would the best for something like re-anodizing or powder coating? Or does it not matter?
I'm no expert, but to reanodize, it shouldn't matter. They strip the anodizing down and you can have the surface refinished before anodizing. Ever noticed how evangs' Van keyboards have a glossy finish? That would be polished aluminum. I think media blasting is the most typical finish. I've always wanted a board with a light brushed finish myself.
As far as powder coating, I think they can probably apply that over the anodized layer, but I'm not sure about the adhesion. There's also the option of cerakote too, which is cheap but very durable and comes in a ton of colors.
Post by: jal on Tue, 11 October 2016, 14:59:04
I'm no expert, but to reanodize, it shouldn't matter. They strip the anodizing down and you can have the surface refinished before anodizing. Ever noticed how evangs' Van keyboards have a glossy finish? That would be polished aluminum. I think media blasting is the most typical finish. I've always wanted a board with a light brushed finish myself.
As far as powder coating, I think they can probably apply that over the anodized layer, but I'm not sure about the adhesion. There's also the option of cerakote too, which is cheap but very durable and comes in a ton of colors.
Having it powder coated will involve stripping the anodization, too. There's a sand-blasting step to get everything aside from the raw metal off. Same with Cerakote.
In my experience, Cerakoting costs more than powder coating by maybe 50% or so - I guess that's the power of a brand name.
Post by: E3E on Tue, 11 October 2016, 15:10:18
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 11 October 2016, 15:30:00
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 11 October 2016, 16:25:53
Thanks for the clarification! Would you say that an anodized finish is the most durable of the three?
Cerakote would be most durable if done right. On aluminum you don't have access to as many whiz bang finishing options as you do with steel.
Post by: jal on Tue, 11 October 2016, 16:33:33
Thanks for the clarification! Would you say that an anodized finish is the most durable of the three?
Another wrinkle is that there are two types of anodization - type II and type III. Type III is the stronger of the two. (There is a type I, called "chromic", but I haven't heard of that being done much.) Type III also costs more, because it requires better process control.
And in comparing different treatments, it also helps to think about what they actually are. Anodization is a chemical process, that actually transforms the surface of the aluminum. (Check the wikipedia page for more; this isn't my specialty.) Cerakote is a hard surface coating. My understanding is that Cerakote is better for scratch resistance, whereas type III anodized surfaces withstand general wear better. (And type II is nice for appearance, but too thin to add much protection.)
Post by: ceflame on Tue, 11 October 2016, 22:53:50
Announcement from oddforge
Anyway, there was 6~7 batches and there's always some parts which contains minor issues.
Which contains minor dents of scratches, or slight color difference on each parts.
We didn't sent back parts with issues to factory yet.
That's what I meant by B-stock.
We need to check out your interests about it.
We will release those with discount if there's somebody who wants it. (around 20% from our MSRP)
I joined the GB for full group buy price (plus tax), and my case has a dent in it from shipping. Feels bad :(
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Tue, 11 October 2016, 22:58:10
Announcement from oddforge
Anyway, there was 6~7 batches and there's always some parts which contains minor issues.
Which contains minor dents of scratches, or slight color difference on each parts.
We didn't sent back parts with issues to factory yet.
That's what I meant by B-stock.
We need to check out your interests about it.
We will release those with discount if there's somebody who wants it. (around 20% from our MSRP)
I joined the GB for full group buy price (plus tax), and my case has a dent in it from shipping. Feels bad :(
Did you send them photos of the dent? Any word on replacement?
Post by: ceflame on Tue, 11 October 2016, 23:09:57
Announcement from oddforge
Anyway, there was 6~7 batches and there's always some parts which contains minor issues.
Which contains minor dents of scratches, or slight color difference on each parts.
We didn't sent back parts with issues to factory yet.
That's what I meant by B-stock.
We need to check out your interests about it.
We will release those with discount if there's somebody who wants it. (around 20% from our MSRP)
I joined the GB for full group buy price (plus tax), and my case has a dent in it from shipping. Feels bad :(
Did you send them photos of the dent? Any word on replacement?
I've posted it in this thread but I haven't asked for any kind of replacement. It's pretty small and unnoticeable during use, but just the fact that I paid GB price while B-stocks are being planned for -20% off MSRP bothers me a little.
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 11 October 2016, 23:11:34
Post by: ceflame on Tue, 11 October 2016, 23:13:50
Announcement from oddforge
Anyway, there was 6~7 batches and there's always some parts which contains minor issues.
Which contains minor dents of scratches, or slight color difference on each parts.
We didn't sent back parts with issues to factory yet.
That's what I meant by B-stock.
We need to check out your interests about it.
We will release those with discount if there's somebody who wants it. (around 20% from our MSRP)
I joined the GB for full group buy price (plus tax), and my case has a dent in it from shipping. Feels bad :(
Did you send them photos of the dent? Any word on replacement?
I've posted it in this thread but I haven't asked for any kind of replacement. It's pretty small and unnoticeable during use, but just the fact that I paid GB price while B-stocks are being planned for -20% off MSRP bothers me a little.
RMA with massdrop man. no reason for that.
Alright, I'll send in a support ticket and see what comes of it.
Post by: adamski07 on Tue, 11 October 2016, 23:48:51
Post by: hkf on Tue, 11 October 2016, 23:52:03
i need help with my ve.a. everything was working fine til today after i finished installing the switches only one rgb led is working on the right board. i tried changing number of leds on bmc, but it didn't work. it was working just fine last night. i also tried using different usb cables.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oaRFMvb.jpg)
It's likely the next LED in sequence to that one, so the one down-left from the picture. Check soldering on that one.
Post by: E3E on Tue, 11 October 2016, 23:56:12
i need help with my ve.a. everything was working fine til today after i finished installing the switches only one rgb led is working on the right board. i tried changing number of leds on bmc, but it didn't work. it was working just fine last night. i also tried using different usb cables.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oaRFMvb.jpg)
It looks like you're using holtite sockets, correct? Did you check to see if the PCB was functioning after you installed the sockets? I can only imagine that socketing could've lifted pads or traces, but the issue you're having sounds more like a bridging issue. If you didn't use solder though, then I'm not sure what to tell you.
Holtite sockets can cause stress to the PCB, but I'm more experienced with Alps in that regard, which already entails a pretty destructive procedure to install them. These sockets don't seem to be very wide so I don't see them putting much stress on the PCB.
Are the keys registering? Is the problem ONLY with the RGB LEDs?
Post by: adamski07 on Wed, 12 October 2016, 00:06:03
i need help with my ve.a. everything was working fine til today after i finished installing the switches only one rgb led is working on the right board. i tried changing number of leds on bmc, but it didn't work. it was working just fine last night. i also tried using different usb cables.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oaRFMvb.jpg)
It looks like you're using holtite sockets, correct? Did you check to see if the PCB was functioning after you installed the sockets? I can only imagine that socketing could've lifted pads or traces, but the issue you're having sounds more like a bridging issue. If you didn't use solder though, then I'm not sure what to tell you.
Holtite sockets can cause stress to the PCB, but I'm more experienced with Alps in that regard, which already entails a pretty destructive procedure to install them. These sockets don't seem to be very wide so I don't see them putting much stress on the PCB.
Are the keys registering? Is the problem ONLY with the RGB LEDs?
Yes, all leds were workingng before isntallation on holtite sockets. All keys are registering. Everything looks fine, but I have no idea why suddenly they stopped working. I also tried different SATA cables and plugging the keyboard on different USB sockets, but none of them worked. :'(
Post by: E3E on Wed, 12 October 2016, 00:21:16
i need help with my ve.a. everything was working fine til today after i finished installing the switches only one rgb led is working on the right board. i tried changing number of leds on bmc, but it didn't work. it was working just fine last night. i also tried using different usb cables.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oaRFMvb.jpg)
It looks like you're using holtite sockets, correct? Did you check to see if the PCB was functioning after you installed the sockets? I can only imagine that socketing could've lifted pads or traces, but the issue you're having sounds more like a bridging issue. If you didn't use solder though, then I'm not sure what to tell you.
Holtite sockets can cause stress to the PCB, but I'm more experienced with Alps in that regard, which already entails a pretty destructive procedure to install them. These sockets don't seem to be very wide so I don't see them putting much stress on the PCB.
Are the keys registering? Is the problem ONLY with the RGB LEDs?
Yes, all leds were workingng before isntallation on holtite sockets. All keys are registering. Everything looks fine, but I have no idea why suddenly they stopped working. I also tried different SATA cables and plugging the keyboard on different USB sockets, but none of them worked. :'(
Hmm, then I really don't see how the sockets could have affected your VE.A.
Like hkf mentioned, I'd check the contact points on the LEDs. I'd personally use a continuity tester to see if there's a broken or bridged path somewhere or something not quite right.
Post by: zefyr on Wed, 12 October 2016, 00:31:48
Announcement from oddforge
Anyway, there was 6~7 batches and there's always some parts which contains minor issues.
Which contains minor dents of scratches, or slight color difference on each parts.
We didn't sent back parts with issues to factory yet.
That's what I meant by B-stock.
We need to check out your interests about it.
We will release those with discount if there's somebody who wants it. (around 20% from our MSRP)
I joined the GB for full group buy price (plus tax), and my case has a dent in it from shipping. Feels bad :(
Did you send them photos of the dent? Any word on replacement?
I've posted it in this thread but I haven't asked for any kind of replacement. It's pretty small and unnoticeable during use, but just the fact that I paid GB price while B-stocks are being planned for -20% off MSRP bothers me a little.
RMA with massdrop man. no reason for that.
Alright, I'll send in a support ticket and see what comes of it.
Hello,
We are very curious about dent you got.
Our quality check is done by 2~3 steps.
Every parts have checked with at least 6 eyes.
If you have noticeable dent, that must be caused during shipping.
We have faith on our quality check about aluminium surfaces.
And only with this faith, we can decide to sell our B-stock, because its' quality are different.
Still, our quality line for B-stock is also high, we don't want to sell out ****ty things.
That's why we are very concerned about some matters, and considering leave B-stock marking on inner surface.
PS : Contact our support email if you need any help from us :)
Post by: zefyr on Wed, 12 October 2016, 00:39:25
i need help with my ve.a. everything was working fine til today after i finished installing the switches only one rgb led is working on the right board. i tried changing number of leds on bmc, but it didn't work. it was working just fine last night. i also tried using different usb cables.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oaRFMvb.jpg)
It looks like you're using holtite sockets, correct? Did you check to see if the PCB was functioning after you installed the sockets? I can only imagine that socketing could've lifted pads or traces, but the issue you're having sounds more like a bridging issue. If you didn't use solder though, then I'm not sure what to tell you.
Holtite sockets can cause stress to the PCB, but I'm more experienced with Alps in that regard, which already entails a pretty destructive procedure to install them. These sockets don't seem to be very wide so I don't see them putting much stress on the PCB.
Are the keys registering? Is the problem ONLY with the RGB LEDs?
Yes, all leds were workingng before isntallation on holtite sockets. All keys are registering. Everything looks fine, but I have no idea why suddenly they stopped working. I also tried different SATA cables and plugging the keyboard on different USB sockets, but none of them worked. :'(
Hmm, then I really don't see how the sockets could have affected your VE.A.
Like hkf mentioned, I'd check the contact points on the LEDs. I'd personally use a continuity tester to see if there's a broken or bridged path somewhere or something not quite right.
Hello,
First of all, RGB LEDs are very very fragile and easily broken with small shock or overheat.
RGB LEDs are linked in a chain traces. So, one LED is down, rest of it will down too.
It looks second (or first) LED is broken or soldering were detached.
Touch soldering part of first and second LED for "one second"(DO NOT SOLDER IT TOO MUCH, IT'S REALLY FRAGILE) to make sure about solder.
Post by: adamski07 on Wed, 12 October 2016, 00:47:24
(http://i.imgur.com/ogTtFYB.jpg)
Post by: E3E on Wed, 12 October 2016, 00:50:05
Post by: zefyr on Wed, 12 October 2016, 01:05:18
Everything is good now. Just reheated all the solder points of the leds. thank you guys. :thumb:WOW!
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ogTtFYB.jpg)
Love your mix'n match of LED settings with keycaps!
Post by: tripandfall426 on Wed, 12 October 2016, 08:23:53
Quote
Hello,
We are very curious about dent you got.
Our quality check is done by 2~3 steps.
Every parts have checked with at least 6 eyes.
If you have noticeable dent, that must be caused during shipping.
We have faith on our quality check about aluminium surfaces.
And only with this faith, we can decide to sell our B-stock, because its' quality are different.
Still, our quality line for B-stock is also high, we don't want to sell out ****ty things.
That's why we are very concerned about some matters, and considering leave B-stock marking on inner surface.
PS : Contact our support email if you need any help from us :)
In regards to the B-stock sale that has been mentioned, do you only have b-stock cases left over? or are these full kits that are marked as b-stock? If its a kit that at least supplies the PCB and case, I'd definitely be interested.
Post by: zefyr on Wed, 12 October 2016, 09:29:06
QuoteHello,
We are very curious about dent you got.
Our quality check is done by 2~3 steps.
Every parts have checked with at least 6 eyes.
If you have noticeable dent, that must be caused during shipping.
We have faith on our quality check about aluminium surfaces.
And only with this faith, we can decide to sell our B-stock, because its' quality are different.
Still, our quality line for B-stock is also high, we don't want to sell out ****ty things.
That's why we are very concerned about some matters, and considering leave B-stock marking on inner surface.
PS : Contact our support email if you need any help from us :)
In regards to the B-stock sale that has been mentioned, do you only have b-stock cases left over? or are these full kits that are marked as b-stock? If its a kit that at least supplies the PCB and case, I'd definitely be interested.
Basic Kit it is :)
All case parts including aluminium case, polynate carbonate frame, switch mounting plate.
Of cource PCB and marking plate also included.
Only SATA Cable and USB mini cable will not be included.
Post by: wodan on Wed, 12 October 2016, 09:33:32
Basic Kit it is :)
All case parts including aluminium case, polynate carbonate frame, switch mounting plate.
Of cource PCB and marking plate also included.
Only SATA Cable and USB mini cable will not be included.
Yes please!
Post by: tripandfall426 on Wed, 12 October 2016, 10:02:27
QuoteHello,
We are very curious about dent you got.
Our quality check is done by 2~3 steps.
Every parts have checked with at least 6 eyes.
If you have noticeable dent, that must be caused during shipping.
We have faith on our quality check about aluminium surfaces.
And only with this faith, we can decide to sell our B-stock, because its' quality are different.
Still, our quality line for B-stock is also high, we don't want to sell out ****ty things.
That's why we are very concerned about some matters, and considering leave B-stock marking on inner surface.
PS : Contact our support email if you need any help from us :)
In regards to the B-stock sale that has been mentioned, do you only have b-stock cases left over? or are these full kits that are marked as b-stock? If its a kit that at least supplies the PCB and case, I'd definitely be interested.
Basic Kit it is :)
All case parts including aluminium case, polynate carbonate frame, switch mounting plate.
Of cource PCB and marking plate also included.
Only SATA Cable and USB mini cable will not be included.
That sounds perfect, is there some sort of email notification list we can get on for when this is available?
Post by: zefyr on Wed, 12 October 2016, 10:30:27
Quick Question About Price for B-stock.
- We will mark with small intentional dent on inside (totally invisible when assembled)
- Our MSRP is 450 USD, we will discount over 20% for B-stock. which will be around 350USD for Basic Kit + misc
---- Case, PCB, Plate
---- SATA cable, 3Lock LEDs with matching resistors (will not be pre-soldered) for your convenience.
- We will charge paypal fee to you.
- We will use EMS with tracking number. package weight is under 2.5kg (those who uses pounds, do your math by yourself)
----You can check your shipping cost at following link.
----http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal (http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal)
- We will not accept any undervalue request.
How's this sounds?
Any good?
Post by: wodan on Wed, 12 October 2016, 10:32:05
BUMP
Quick Question About Price for B-stock.
- We will mark with small intentional dent on inside (totally invisible when assembled)
- Our MSRP is 450 USD, we will discount over 20% for B-stock. which will be around 350USD for Basic Kit + misc
---- Case, PCB, Plate
---- SATA cable, 3Lock LEDs with matching resistors (will not be pre-soldered) for your convenience.
- We will charge paypal fee to you.
- We will use EMS with tracking number. package weight is under 2.5kg (those who uses pounds, do your math by yourself)
----You can check your shipping cost at following link.
----http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal (http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal)
- We will not accept any undervalue request.
How's this sounds?
Any good?
yes, where can i order?
Post by: E3E on Wed, 12 October 2016, 10:39:23
BUMP
Quick Question About Price for B-stock.
- We will mark with small intentional dent on inside (totally invisible when assembled)
- Our MSRP is 450 USD, we will discount over 20% for B-stock. which will be around 350USD for Basic Kit + misc
---- Case, PCB, Plate
---- SATA cable, 3Lock LEDs with matching resistors (will not be pre-soldered) for your convenience.
- We will charge paypal fee to you.
- We will use EMS with tracking number. package weight is under 2.5kg (those who uses pounds, do your math by yourself)
----You can check your shipping cost at following link.
----http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal (http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal)
- We will not accept any undervalue request.
How's this sounds?
Any good?
Are tenting stands unavailable through b-stock purchase?
Post by: zefyr on Wed, 12 October 2016, 10:45:51
BUMP
Quick Question About Price for B-stock.
- We will mark with small intentional dent on inside (totally invisible when assembled)
- Our MSRP is 450 USD, we will discount over 20% for B-stock. which will be around 350USD for Basic Kit + misc
---- Case, PCB, Plate
---- SATA cable, 3Lock LEDs with matching resistors (will not be pre-soldered) for your convenience.
- We will charge paypal fee to you.
- We will use EMS with tracking number. package weight is under 2.5kg (those who uses pounds, do your math by yourself)
----You can check your shipping cost at following link.
----http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal (http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal)
- We will not accept any undervalue request.
How's this sounds?
Any good?
Are tenting stands unavailable through b-stock purchase?
We removed that option because that thing is really heavy (heavier than VE.A)
I don't have any idea about minimal shipping cost for that.
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 12 October 2016, 10:47:26
BUMP
Quick Question About Price for B-stock.
- We will mark with small intentional dent on inside (totally invisible when assembled)
- Our MSRP is 450 USD, we will discount over 20% for B-stock. which will be around 350USD for Basic Kit + misc
---- Case, PCB, Plate
---- SATA cable, 3Lock LEDs with matching resistors (will not be pre-soldered) for your convenience.
- We will charge paypal fee to you.
- We will use EMS with tracking number. package weight is under 2.5kg (those who uses pounds, do your math by yourself)
----You can check your shipping cost at following link.
----http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal (http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal)
- We will not accept any undervalue request.
How's this sounds?
Any good?
Seems totally fair to me.
Post by: E3E on Wed, 12 October 2016, 10:53:59
Are tenting stands unavailable through b-stock purchase?
We removed that option because that thing is really heavy (heavier than VE.A)
I don't have any idea about minimal shipping cost for that.
I see! Well, it is layered acrylic correct? Would it be possible for the file to be released so that users may create there own locally? I understand if not. Thanks for your responsiveness, as always. :thumb:
Post by: Saiph on Wed, 12 October 2016, 11:04:32
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 12 October 2016, 11:15:25
BUMP
Quick Question About Price for B-stock.
- We will mark with small intentional dent on inside (totally invisible when assembled)
- Our MSRP is 450 USD, we will discount over 20% for B-stock. which will be around 350USD for Basic Kit + misc
---- Case, PCB, Plate
---- SATA cable, 3Lock LEDs with matching resistors (will not be pre-soldered) for your convenience.
- We will charge paypal fee to you.
- We will use EMS with tracking number. package weight is under 2.5kg (those who uses pounds, do your math by yourself)
----You can check your shipping cost at following link.
----http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal (http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal)
- We will not accept any undervalue request.
How's this sounds?
Any good?
I think this is very reasonable.
Aside from the dent to show it is a B build, what are the differences between B stock and the A run? are they less functional or aesthetically different for any reason?
Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 12 October 2016, 11:22:35
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Wed, 12 October 2016, 11:35:02
Post by: Saiph on Wed, 12 October 2016, 11:44:26
use linears bbI guess I do have some Gat Yellows lying around.
Post by: zefyr on Wed, 12 October 2016, 11:53:55
Are tenting stands unavailable through b-stock purchase?
We removed that option because that thing is really heavy (heavier than VE.A)
I don't have any idea about minimal shipping cost for that.
I see! Well, it is layered acrylic correct? Would it be possible for the file to be released so that users may create there own locally? I understand if not. Thanks for your responsiveness, as always. :thumb:
It already shared in public on kbdlab. We will update our website someday haha.
Post by: JDragon on Wed, 12 October 2016, 11:54:08
BUMP
Quick Question About Price for B-stock.
- We will mark with small intentional dent on inside (totally invisible when assembled)
- Our MSRP is 450 USD, we will discount over 20% for B-stock. which will be around 350USD for Basic Kit + misc
---- Case, PCB, Plate
---- SATA cable, 3Lock LEDs with matching resistors (will not be pre-soldered) for your convenience.
- We will charge paypal fee to you.
- We will use EMS with tracking number. package weight is under 2.5kg (those who uses pounds, do your math by yourself)
----You can check your shipping cost at following link.
----http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal (http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal)
- We will not accept any undervalue request.
How's this sounds?
Any good?
Sounds good! Looking forward to grabbing one. :D
Post by: zefyr on Wed, 12 October 2016, 11:57:09
Were the plate files ever released? I would like to have an aluminum plate instead of the default steel one :)
We shared plate design for alps on our website.
But did not shared MX plate design for some reasons.
But there are tons of free resources on public so you can draw yours very easily.
That's how this geeky community is running, isn't it?
Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 12 October 2016, 11:59:44
Post by: MandrewDavis on Wed, 12 October 2016, 12:04:33
Any chance that the acrylic housing design files are public?
Post by: hkf on Wed, 12 October 2016, 16:51:19
BUMP
Quick Question About Price for B-stock.
- We will mark with small intentional dent on inside (totally invisible when assembled)
- Our MSRP is 450 USD, we will discount over 20% for B-stock. which will be around 350USD for Basic Kit + misc
---- Case, PCB, Plate
---- SATA cable, 3Lock LEDs with matching resistors (will not be pre-soldered) for your convenience.
- We will charge paypal fee to you.
- We will use EMS with tracking number. package weight is under 2.5kg (those who uses pounds, do your math by yourself)
----You can check your shipping cost at following link.
----http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal (http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal)
- We will not accept any undervalue request.
How's this sounds?
Any good?
Can we buy plate + pcb only?
Post by: zefyr on Thu, 13 October 2016, 04:51:11
BUMP
Quick Question About Price for B-stock.
- We will mark with small intentional dent on inside (totally invisible when assembled)
- Our MSRP is 450 USD, we will discount over 20% for B-stock. which will be around 350USD for Basic Kit + misc
---- Case, PCB, Plate
---- SATA cable, 3Lock LEDs with matching resistors (will not be pre-soldered) for your convenience.
- We will charge paypal fee to you.
- We will use EMS with tracking number. package weight is under 2.5kg (those who uses pounds, do your math by yourself)
----You can check your shipping cost at following link.
----http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal (http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal)
- We will not accept any undervalue request.
How's this sounds?
Any good?
Can we buy plate + pcb only?
I don't see why not at this point.
But as always, nothing set firmly yet.
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 13 October 2016, 13:53:15
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Thu, 13 October 2016, 14:22:29
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 13 October 2016, 14:35:18
Post by: KetchyKech on Thu, 13 October 2016, 14:42:12
I wouldn't know the first place to look...Ofc if no one is up to task I just may have to endeavor to do so !!
Post by: hkf on Thu, 13 October 2016, 16:50:59
BUMP
Quick Question About Price for B-stock.
- We will mark with small intentional dent on inside (totally invisible when assembled)
- Our MSRP is 450 USD, we will discount over 20% for B-stock. which will be around 350USD for Basic Kit + misc
---- Case, PCB, Plate
---- SATA cable, 3Lock LEDs with matching resistors (will not be pre-soldered) for your convenience.
- We will charge paypal fee to you.
- We will use EMS with tracking number. package weight is under 2.5kg (those who uses pounds, do your math by yourself)
----You can check your shipping cost at following link.
----http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal (http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal)
- We will not accept any undervalue request.
How's this sounds?
Any good?
Can we buy plate + pcb only?
I don't see why not at this point.
But as always, nothing set firmly yet.
F5ing like crazy for me :D
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 13 October 2016, 16:53:56
Post by: jal on Thu, 13 October 2016, 16:58:58
possibly.. the thing is the layout will determine MOQ. every layout would have a separate one. plus it's a small pool of people to deal with as well. [...]
Yeah. I don't know how many were sold in the first drop, but Massdrop sold 102 VE.As. (At least that's what it said on the page that list my purchases.)
Not sure how to estimate how many of those would take part at all, let alone per-type, but this is probably a job for lasergist.
Post by: adamski07 on Thu, 13 October 2016, 21:54:30
(https://i.imgur.com/PwgPtaB.jpg)
Post by: clappingcactus on Thu, 13 October 2016, 22:13:07
BUMP
Quick Question About Price for B-stock.
- We will mark with small intentional dent on inside (totally invisible when assembled)
- Our MSRP is 450 USD, we will discount over 20% for B-stock. which will be around 350USD for Basic Kit + misc
---- Case, PCB, Plate
---- SATA cable, 3Lock LEDs with matching resistors (will not be pre-soldered) for your convenience.
- We will charge paypal fee to you.
- We will use EMS with tracking number. package weight is under 2.5kg (those who uses pounds, do your math by yourself)
----You can check your shipping cost at following link.
----http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal (http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal)
- We will not accept any undervalue request.
How's this sounds?
Any good?
Can we buy plate + pcb only?
I don't see why not at this point.
But as always, nothing set firmly yet.
Whether I buy one of the B-stocks or just a backup pcb/plate depends on the price. Any idea how much spare PCB+Plates would cost?
I wasn't in the massdrop so I don't know what the retail for those was.
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 13 October 2016, 22:14:24
Post by: juahenza on Thu, 13 October 2016, 22:22:34
Love this board. My new daily! :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PwgPtaB.jpg)
very nice picture :thumb:
Post by: adamski07 on Thu, 13 October 2016, 22:42:30
Love this board. My new daily! :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PwgPtaB.jpg)
looks like that livestream one? I like the clear housing on it. I'm building mine right now actually just taking a break :)
Correct. too lazy to setup the livestream again so I decided to finish the build without livestreaming it again. :p
Love this board. My new daily! :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PwgPtaB.jpg)
very nice picture :thumb:
thanks! Here's another one.
(http://i.imgur.com/nqphNwD.jpg)
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 13 October 2016, 22:47:46
Post by: zefyr on Thu, 13 October 2016, 23:37:33
BUMP
Quick Question About Price for B-stock.
- We will mark with small intentional dent on inside (totally invisible when assembled)
- Our MSRP is 450 USD, we will discount over 20% for B-stock. which will be around 350USD for Basic Kit + misc
---- Case, PCB, Plate
---- SATA cable, 3Lock LEDs with matching resistors (will not be pre-soldered) for your convenience.
- We will charge paypal fee to you.
- We will use EMS with tracking number. package weight is under 2.5kg (those who uses pounds, do your math by yourself)
----You can check your shipping cost at following link.
----http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal (http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal)
- We will not accept any undervalue request.
How's this sounds?
Any good?Can we buy plate + pcb only?
I don't see why not at this point.
But as always, nothing set firmly yet.
Whether I buy one of the B-stocks or just a backup pcb/plate depends on the price. Any idea how much spare PCB+Plates would cost?
I wasn't in the massdrop so I don't know what the retail for those was.
We have rough plan for releasing PCB and Plate at Massdrop price. which is 55USD for PCB and 35USD for plate.
Post by: zefyr on Thu, 13 October 2016, 23:38:25
OMG...Love this board. My new daily! :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PwgPtaB.jpg)
looks like that livestream one? I like the clear housing on it. I'm building mine right now actually just taking a break :)
Correct. too lazy to setup the livestream again so I decided to finish the build without livestreaming it again. :pLove this board. My new daily! :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PwgPtaB.jpg)
very nice picture :thumb:
thanks! Here's another one.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nqphNwD.jpg)
Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 14 October 2016, 08:50:34
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Fri, 14 October 2016, 13:37:56
Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 14 October 2016, 13:54:44
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Fri, 14 October 2016, 14:10:39
How many switches are required for a normal ansi layout on this? I counted but want to make sure I was correct, I came up with 97.
that's how many massdrop gives you. I had what I thought was 98 switches, but I had two extra. I probably counted wrong. 100 is definitely save
Thanks friendo.
Post by: Data on Fri, 14 October 2016, 14:17:39
So I'd get an even 100. ;)
Post by: Jaceun on Fri, 14 October 2016, 15:19:34
Checked for the obvious stuff and now I need a little help. Known good LEDs, correct polarity and powered USB port on my PC if that matters.
I don't see any bad soldering or poor connections but maybe you all have better eyes.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161014/43733d3713e76d07c6284945add320b6.jpg)
Post by: zefyr on Fri, 14 October 2016, 16:54:13
Anyone have an idea as to why my Macro keys, 1 and 2 are not powering in switch LEDs? Everything else works, including those keys when pressed.
Checked for the obvious stuff and now I need a little help. Known good LEDs, correct polarity and powered USB port on my PC if that matters.
I don't see any bad soldering or poor connections but maybe you all have better eyes.Show Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161014/43733d3713e76d07c6284945add320b6.jpg)
Read assembly guide please :)
http://oddforge.com/product/vea_assembly (http://oddforge.com/product/vea_assembly)
Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 14 October 2016, 16:58:06
Post by: Jaceun on Fri, 14 October 2016, 17:01:53
Anyone have an idea as to why my Macro keys, 1 and 2 are not powering in switch LEDs? Everything else works, including those keys when pressed.
Checked for the obvious stuff and now I need a little help. Known good LEDs, correct polarity and powered USB port on my PC if that matters.
I don't see any bad soldering or poor connections but maybe you all have better eyes.Show Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161014/43733d3713e76d07c6284945add320b6.jpg)
Read assembly guide please :)
http://oddforge.com/product/vea_assembly (http://oddforge.com/product/vea_assembly)
I feel a little silly, I see the F _ _ L pattern now. That part was confusing me before, but now it all makes sense. I just thought I had to have messed something up haha. Thank you zefyr.
Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 14 October 2016, 18:50:53
Post by: HouseofSuffering on Fri, 14 October 2016, 19:46:02
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 14 October 2016, 19:59:58
Looking forward to getting a second, "B" stock Ve.A!! :thumb:
Sad I will only be able to have a "B" stock VE.A =( these pictures are amazing though
Post by: Slash Emperor on Sat, 15 October 2016, 12:18:22
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Mon, 17 October 2016, 08:05:30
Post by: Fictiouz on Mon, 17 October 2016, 09:05:42
Is there any information as to when you'll open up selling the b-stock parts/kits?
what he said ^
Post by: LDobler on Tue, 18 October 2016, 18:14:45
Post by: Goranth on Tue, 18 October 2016, 18:18:49
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 18 October 2016, 18:22:58
I need one of those b-stock VE.As in my life! :eek:
At this point I will take any VE.A in my life at all.
Post by: litster on Tue, 18 October 2016, 19:41:52
[attachimg=1]
Post by: commandlinedesign on Wed, 19 October 2016, 06:18:06
(http://i.imgur.com/5vZ8Qyp.jpg)
Album: http://imgur.com/a/yTssL (http://imgur.com/a/yTssL)
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Wed, 19 October 2016, 08:48:38
(http://i.imgur.com/25bXSpV.png)
Post by: aaron6301 on Wed, 19 October 2016, 10:26:47
Planned build:
- Silver VE.A w/Black Plate
- 62g - Gateron Linear Clears, Lubed
- Transparent stabs, Lubed & Clipped
- GMK Classic Retro
- KK Miso Snackey or HWS Copper/Red Keythulu
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 19 October 2016, 11:54:29
- Transparent stabs, Lubed & Clipped
Are there any transparent stabs that need to be clipped? The only ones I've seen thus far were Vintage style, meaning they don't need to be clipped.
Post by: aaron6301 on Wed, 19 October 2016, 12:49:01
Not entirely sure tbh. I've clipped the old fashioned black ones and assumed the transparent variant needed the same treatment. They should be arriving this Friday so can't really confirm till I have them in my possession.
- Transparent stabs, Lubed & Clipped
Are there any transparent stabs that need to be clipped? The only ones I've seen thus far were Vintage style, meaning they don't need to be clipped.
Post by: zefyr on Thu, 20 October 2016, 01:26:25
We set a mailing list for B-stock GB.
Subscribe it if you need to be notified at important events.
http://eepurl.com/ckXnGD (http://eepurl.com/ckXnGD)
* We will announce here, GH, as always *
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 20 October 2016, 08:16:50
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Thu, 20 October 2016, 08:40:48
Won't have access to email most likely RIP me.
Post by: Norman_the_Owl on Thu, 20 October 2016, 11:03:00
Announcement from oddforge
We set a mailing list for B-stock GB.
Subscribe it if you need to be notified at important events.
http://eepurl.com/ckXnGD (http://eepurl.com/ckXnGD)
* We will announce here, GH, as always *
How much stock do you have?
Will i be able to buy parts individually, or only as an entire keyboard? I'm only interested in the PCB, and ideally whatever parts it takes to assemble the PCB.
Post by: MandrewDavis on Thu, 20 October 2016, 13:47:30
Announcement from oddforge
We set a mailing list for B-stock GB.
Subscribe it if you need to be notified at important events.
http://eepurl.com/ckXnGD (http://eepurl.com/ckXnGD)
* We will announce here, GH, as always *
How much stock do you have?
Will i be able to buy parts individually, or only as an entire keyboard? I'm only interested in the PCB, and ideally whatever parts it takes to assemble the PCB.
Why only the PCB? Building your own case?
Post by: Norman_the_Owl on Thu, 20 October 2016, 14:13:43
Announcement from oddforge
We set a mailing list for B-stock GB.
Subscribe it if you need to be notified at important events.
http://eepurl.com/ckXnGD (http://eepurl.com/ckXnGD)
* We will announce here, GH, as always *
How much stock do you have?
Will i be able to buy parts individually, or only as an entire keyboard? I'm only interested in the PCB, and ideally whatever parts it takes to assemble the PCB.
Why only the PCB? Building your own case?
I don't want a plate because I'm going alps, and i need to make my own anyways. I don't want the case because I don't want to spend 350 dollars right now. 55 for the PCB (plus shipping of course) is a much more swallowable price. I'll make a sandwich case out of acrylic when i have the cash
Post by: Niomosy on Thu, 20 October 2016, 18:05:13
Announcement from oddforge
We set a mailing list for B-stock GB.
Subscribe it if you need to be notified at important events.
http://eepurl.com/ckXnGD (http://eepurl.com/ckXnGD)
* We will announce here, GH, as always *
How much stock do you have?
Will i be able to buy parts individually, or only as an entire keyboard? I'm only interested in the PCB, and ideally whatever parts it takes to assemble the PCB.
Why only the PCB? Building your own case?
The case is rather cost-prohitibitive for many of us.
Post by: zefyr on Fri, 21 October 2016, 00:58:03
Announcement from oddforge
We set a mailing list for B-stock GB.
Subscribe it if you need to be notified at important events.
http://eepurl.com/ckXnGD (http://eepurl.com/ckXnGD)
* We will announce here, GH, as always *
How much stock do you have?
Will i be able to buy parts individually, or only as an entire keyboard? I'm only interested in the PCB, and ideally whatever parts it takes to assemble the PCB.
We have around 20 B-stock.
And for indv parts, I don't see why not by now.
We have stock PCB and plates.
Post by: Norman_the_Owl on Fri, 21 October 2016, 05:44:58
Post by: Niomosy on Fri, 21 October 2016, 13:10:48
This could probably become a solid mass-produced keyboard were it to have a less expensive case.
Post by: Norman_the_Owl on Fri, 21 October 2016, 13:33:16
Post by: MandrewDavis on Fri, 21 October 2016, 14:07:56
For cherry, using 1.5mm acrylic for the plate and 3mm underneath for support similar to what winkeyless does. Anything alps needs a metal plate, assuming nobody wants to hotglue their precious switches in.
Just my thoughts, maybe someone else is thinking outside the box.
Post by: E3E on Fri, 21 October 2016, 14:31:43
Also, in regards to an acrylic case, the VE.A'S predecessor was all acrylic.
(http://puu.sh/bQ05T/ce71923df4.png)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 21 October 2016, 15:05:27
Post by: Data on Fri, 21 October 2016, 20:45:02
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 21 October 2016, 20:46:23
The gold case was a one-off by the way.
Thanks for the heads up, I suspected it might be, if I can get one of the cases I'm pretty experienced with industrial coatings/paint, I think I can make it work
Post by: Data on Fri, 21 October 2016, 20:48:45
Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 23 October 2016, 17:22:46
Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 23 October 2016, 21:29:06
Post by: Delirious on Sun, 23 October 2016, 21:55:28
Post by: aaron6301 on Sun, 23 October 2016, 22:04:24
Does anyone know the spec for the plastic screws? They are too filmsy for my taste so I'm definitely replacing them with some stainless steel screws.I ordered some M3 15mm flat head hex screws and they work perfectly. If you pay for postage, I can send you some as I ordered 100.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk
Post by: krisst on Sun, 23 October 2016, 22:23:29
Ebay link below
http://www.ebay.com/itm/222220208667
Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 23 October 2016, 22:24:09
Post by: krisst on Mon, 24 October 2016, 00:30:58
I bought some titanium screws instead. M3 x 15mm. Pack of 10.
Ebay link below
http://www.ebay.com/itm/222220208667
gross china.
Item seems to be shipping from Hong Kong. Colour of these screws matches dark grey case well enough.
Either way, still better than those plastic screws provided. They strip too easily.
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 24 October 2016, 00:47:56
I bought some titanium screws instead. M3 x 15mm. Pack of 10.
Ebay link below
http://www.ebay.com/itm/222220208667
Not gonna hound you over buying 10 screws buhhh..
let's understand titanium alloy for a moment.
Its advantage is , more strength to weight ratio.. vs steel.
However, the strongest steel is stronger than the strongest titanium.
If you got high tensile steel screws, it is cheaper AND stronger than steel, but it will be heavier..
So, on a KEYBOARD, where it doesn't have to be light, and most of the weight is NOT the screws, it makes more sense to use steel instead of titanium..
Post by: Data on Mon, 24 October 2016, 08:02:21
I bought some titanium screws instead. M3 x 15mm. Pack of 10.
Ebay link below
http://www.ebay.com/itm/222220208667
Not gonna hound you over buying 10 screws buhhh..
let's understand titanium alloy for a moment.
Its advantage is , more strength to weight ratio.. vs steel.
However, the strongest steel is stronger than the strongest titanium.
If you got high tensile steel screws, it is cheaper AND stronger than steel, but it will be heavier..
So, on a KEYBOARD, where it doesn't have to be light, and most of the weight is NOT the screws, it makes more sense to use steel instead of titanium..
They're screwing directly into polycarbonate so strength is meaningless. You'll strip the threads in the PC before anything else comes close to failing.
Plus, titanium...
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 24 October 2016, 09:40:04
Post by: krisst on Mon, 24 October 2016, 09:45:38
I bought some titanium screws instead. M3 x 15mm. Pack of 10.
Ebay link below
http://www.ebay.com/itm/222220208667
Not gonna hound you over buying 10 screws buhhh..
let's understand titanium alloy for a moment.
Its advantage is , more strength to weight ratio.. vs steel.
However, the strongest steel is stronger than the strongest titanium.
If you got high tensile steel screws, it is cheaper AND stronger than steel, but it will be heavier..
So, on a KEYBOARD, where it doesn't have to be light, and most of the weight is NOT the screws, it makes more sense to use steel instead of titanium..
They are just screws that I chose to replace those plastic ones... Don't have to be so serious, right? As long as it doesn't rust, doesn't strip, I don't care as much.
All these talks about screws and I am still here waiting for those stabs from Zeal before assembling my VE.A... probably looking at early Dec
Post by: Data on Mon, 24 October 2016, 13:43:44
I bought some titanium screws instead. M3 x 15mm. Pack of 10.
Ebay link below
http://www.ebay.com/itm/222220208667
Not gonna hound you over buying 10 screws buhhh..
let's understand titanium alloy for a moment.
Its advantage is , more strength to weight ratio.. vs steel.
However, the strongest steel is stronger than the strongest titanium.
If you got high tensile steel screws, it is cheaper AND stronger than steel, but it will be heavier..
So, on a KEYBOARD, where it doesn't have to be light, and most of the weight is NOT the screws, it makes more sense to use steel instead of titanium..
They are just screws that I chose to replace those plastic ones... Don't have to be so serious, right? As long as it doesn't rust, doesn't strip, I don't care as much.
All these talks about screws and I am still here waiting for those stabs from Zeal before assembling my VE.A... probably looking at early Dec
Brutal.
Post by: zefyr on Mon, 24 October 2016, 22:06:52
I bought some titanium screws instead. M3 x 15mm. Pack of 10.
Ebay link below
http://www.ebay.com/itm/222220208667
Not gonna hound you over buying 10 screws buhhh..
let's understand titanium alloy for a moment.
Its advantage is , more strength to weight ratio.. vs steel.
However, the strongest steel is stronger than the strongest titanium.
If you got high tensile steel screws, it is cheaper AND stronger than steel, but it will be heavier..
So, on a KEYBOARD, where it doesn't have to be light, and most of the weight is NOT the screws, it makes more sense to use steel instead of titanium..
They are just screws that I chose to replace those plastic ones... Don't have to be so serious, right? As long as it doesn't rust, doesn't strip, I don't care as much.
All these talks about screws and I am still here waiting for those stabs from Zeal before assembling my VE.A... probably looking at early Dec
Hmm, we choose PC bolts instead of STS because they looks better when assembled.
You can see some features that we choose quality over price.
like...
PC bolts for transparent effect. instead of STS bolts.
Diamond sanding at backside of black mounting plate. (funny, that side is not even visible.)
910 resistors for all in-switch LEDs for your convenience.
Post by: aaron6301 on Tue, 25 October 2016, 13:45:03
- VE.A Silver w/Black Plate
- GMK Retro
- KK Miso Soup
- 62g Gateron Linear Clears - Lubed
- Trans Stabs - Lubed
- Sip Scoketed - White In Switch
(http://i.imgur.com/t3vxdMC.jpg)
Post by: MajorKoos on Tue, 25 October 2016, 20:09:16
I bought some titanium screws instead. M3 x 15mm. Pack of 10.
Ebay link below
http://www.ebay.com/itm/222220208667
Not gonna hound you over buying 10 screws buhhh..
let's understand titanium alloy for a moment.
Its advantage is , more strength to weight ratio.. vs steel.
However, the strongest steel is stronger than the strongest titanium.
If you got high tensile steel screws, it is cheaper AND stronger than steel, but it will be heavier..
So, on a KEYBOARD, where it doesn't have to be light, and most of the weight is NOT the screws, it makes more sense to use steel instead of titanium..
They are just screws that I chose to replace those plastic ones... Don't have to be so serious, right? As long as it doesn't rust, doesn't strip, I don't care as much.
All these talks about screws and I am still here waiting for those stabs from Zeal before assembling my VE.A... probably looking at early Dec
Hmm, we choose PC bolts instead of STS because they looks better when assembled.
You can see some features that we choose quality over price.
like...
PC bolts for transparent effect. instead of STS bolts.
Diamond sanding at backside of black mounting plate. (funny, that side is not even visible.)
910 resistors for all in-switch LEDs for your convenience.
+1 for the diamond sanding.
A very unique finish indeed - both in looks and touch.
I'd love to see more of that in future designs.
Post by: zefyr on Wed, 26 October 2016, 03:28:32
Finally got the chance to put it together.
- VE.A Silver w/Black Plate
- GMK Retro
- KK Miso Soup
- 62g Gateron Linear Clears - Lubed
- Trans Stabs - Lubed
- Sip Scoketed - White In Switch
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/t3vxdMC.jpg)
Finally :)
Hope you like it!
Post by: danielucf on Thu, 27 October 2016, 01:54:58
(http://i.imgur.com/QkVDFad.jpg)
Post by: seblove on Thu, 27 October 2016, 02:31:57
Finally got the chance to put it together.
- VE.A Silver w/Black Plate
- GMK Retro
- KK Miso Soup
- 62g Gateron Linear Clears - Lubed
- Trans Stabs - Lubed
- Sip Scoketed - White In Switch
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/t3vxdMC.jpg)
Eyyy you went with the white cable. Hope you're loving it man, looks super clean.
Post by: zefyr on Thu, 27 October 2016, 02:54:11
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85476.0
Hope you like it.
Post by: romevi on Thu, 03 November 2016, 11:46:01
Love this board. My new daily! :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PwgPtaB.jpg)
looks like that livestream one? I like the clear housing on it. I'm building mine right now actually just taking a break :)
Correct. too lazy to setup the livestream again so I decided to finish the build without livestreaming it again. :pLove this board. My new daily! :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PwgPtaB.jpg)
very nice picture :thumb:
thanks! Here's another one.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nqphNwD.jpg)
Dude, I just saw this in the keyboard nominations. Are you using tactile grays? I don't see too many boards with those; I just happened to have my Jane installed with them, lubed with 72g SPRiT springs and Gateron clear tops.
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Thu, 03 November 2016, 17:16:52
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 03 November 2016, 17:38:20
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Thu, 03 November 2016, 17:43:55
So I'm guessing we still have no clue when b-stock will be available?
seems you didn't see the email sign up. put email in. forget.
I did see it and I did sign up, but it's still nice to know some information without just "soon".
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 03 November 2016, 18:07:36
So I'm guessing we still have no clue when b-stock will be available?
seems you didn't see the email sign up. put email in. forget.
I would offer that some of us don't have the financial liberty to just forget about something that costs over $200, that's something I need to budget for, or set small amounts of money aside incrementally, where having a tentative date could ease that a little for lots of people
Post by: MandrewDavis on Thu, 03 November 2016, 22:36:37
So I'm guessing we still have no clue when b-stock will be available?
seems you didn't see the email sign up. put email in. forget.
I would offer that some of us don't have the financial liberty to just forget about something that costs over $200, that's something I need to budget for, or set small amounts of money aside incrementally, where having a tentative date could ease that a little for lots of people
Try $500 with shipping.
Zefyr is still recovering from the OG groupbuy. Based on your posts, you are certainly desperate for a VE.A, but don't seem to have the funds. I am working (very slowly) on an acrylic case for the VE.A and will try to share on here once I confirm my design is A-OK.
Post by: zefyr on Fri, 04 November 2016, 00:33:13
So I'm guessing we still have no clue when b-stock will be available?
seems you didn't see the email sign up. put email in. forget.
I would offer that some of us don't have the financial liberty to just forget about something that costs over $200, that's something I need to budget for, or set small amounts of money aside incrementally, where having a tentative date could ease that a little for lots of people
Try $500 with shipping.
Zefyr is still recovering from the OG groupbuy. Based on your posts, you are certainly desperate for a VE.A, but don't seem to have the funds. I am working (very slowly) on an acrylic case for the VE.A and will try to share on here once I confirm my design is A-OK.
Hey guys!
Sorry to keep you waiting so long.
B-stock is ready :)
We carefully checked quality again.
About 35 sets passed our B-class quality line.
(18 black, 8 grey, 6 silver)
Price will be 350USD, including black-titan-coated mounting plate.
No bare STS mounting plate option.
But we have no experience of direct GB.
Problem is money collecting.
So, quick question.
When attended in a GB, you got paypal e-mail invoice? or just sending budget?
And also, we are preparing special version of VE.A. without anodizing.
We are considering run a field test in early-adopter-like form.
Keep your interests on us, please :)
Post by: DormantLemon on Fri, 04 November 2016, 02:46:40
Sent from my SM-G928F using Tapatalk
Post by: JDragon on Fri, 04 November 2016, 03:57:37
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 04 November 2016, 04:27:28
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 04 November 2016, 07:27:33
Does anyone know where I can get a nice sata cable?
You could just get any cable you like from a computer store and then buy some sleeve to customize it. I really like the MDPC-X sleeve, but there probably are others that also offer Sata sized sleeve.
If you don't want to make your own I'm sure Pexon offers a lot of options.
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 04 November 2016, 07:43:41
Gonna get some sleeve and try it myself. Seems easy from seeing how people did it on youtube. Thansk broDoes anyone know where I can get a nice sata cable?
You could just get any cable you like from a computer store and then buy some sleeve to customize it. I really like the MDPC-X sleeve, but there probably are others that also offer Sata sized sleeve.
If you don't want to make your own I'm sure Pexon offers a lot of options.
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Fri, 04 November 2016, 08:17:14
Post by: Saiph on Fri, 04 November 2016, 09:25:17
Would you be planning to run this special edition through your site? Also paypal works for me :)
And also, we are preparing special version of VE.A. without anodizing.
We are considering run a field test in early-adopter-like form.
Keep your interests on us, please :)
Post by: Slash Emperor on Fri, 04 November 2016, 10:13:39
So I'm guessing we still have no clue when b-stock will be available?
seems you didn't see the email sign up. put email in. forget.
I would offer that some of us don't have the financial liberty to just forget about something that costs over $200, that's something I need to budget for, or set small amounts of money aside incrementally, where having a tentative date could ease that a little for lots of people
Try $500 with shipping.
Zefyr is still recovering from the OG groupbuy. Based on your posts, you are certainly desperate for a VE.A, but don't seem to have the funds. I am working (very slowly) on an acrylic case for the VE.A and will try to share on here once I confirm my design is A-OK.
Hey guys!
Sorry to keep you waiting so long.
B-stock is ready :)
We carefully checked quality again.
About 35 sets passed our B-class quality line.
(18 black, 8 grey, 6 silver)
Price will be 350USD, including black-titan-coated mounting plate.
No bare STS mounting plate option.
But we have no experience of direct GB.
Problem is money collecting.
So, quick question.
When attended in a GB, you got paypal e-mail invoice? or just sending budget?
And also, we are preparing special version of VE.A. without anodizing.
We are considering run a field test in early-adopter-like form.
Keep your interests on us, please :)
I've been checking this thread multiple times a day, ready for that B-stock. I know I signed up for the mailing list, but I still feel compelled to check here.
Paypal works perfectly for me. The non-anodized version also sounds very interesting to me. Bring it on!
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 04 November 2016, 11:14:10
Hey guys!
Sorry to keep you waiting so long.
B-stock is ready :)
We carefully checked quality again.
About 35 sets passed our B-class quality line.
(18 black, 8 grey, 6 silver)
Price will be 350USD, including black-titan-coated mounting plate.
No bare STS mounting plate option.
So just to clarify, we are getting:
"Base Kit Includes
Anodized CNC aluminum case (top / bottom)
CNC poly-carbonate frame
Steel switch plate
Screws
Bump-on feet
Vergo type.T-II PCB
VE.A marking plates
SATA cable
Mini USB cable"
?
Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 04 November 2016, 11:21:41
Post by: zefyr on Fri, 04 November 2016, 17:51:06
Hey guys!
Sorry to keep you waiting so long.
B-stock is ready :)
We carefully checked quality again.
About 35 sets passed our B-class quality line.
(18 black, 8 grey, 6 silver)
Price will be 350USD, including black-titan-coated mounting plate.
No bare STS mounting plate option.
So just to clarify, we are getting:
"Base Kit Includes
Anodized CNC aluminum case (top / bottom)
CNC poly-carbonate frame
Steel switch plate
Screws
Bump-on feet
Vergo type.T-II PCB
VE.A marking plates
SATA cable
Mini USB cable"
?
No cables included. It was a bundle deal of Massdrop.
Post by: zefyr on Sat, 05 November 2016, 09:41:03
(http://i.imgur.com/KVRSuyY.jpg)
Color differency
(http://i.imgur.com/9805XGI.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/PiUGZK5.jpg)
B-class marking
(http://i.imgur.com/7qHGSwR.jpg)
Dent
(http://i.imgur.com/EDSE0zf.jpg)
Scratch
(http://i.imgur.com/lJvrrHj.jpg)
Uneven surface
(http://i.imgur.com/ARNBq0x.jpg)
Dent & uneven surface
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Sat, 05 November 2016, 09:49:44
Post by: Slash Emperor on Sat, 05 November 2016, 10:36:38
Post by: TheZissou on Sat, 05 November 2016, 10:55:26
Post by: zefyr on Sat, 05 November 2016, 18:31:09
B-class stock GB schedule & process
- We will announce exact starting time at lease 48 hours before joining form opens. (time in KST, which is UTC+9 https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/kst (https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/kst))
- We will send you invoice within 24 hours, in order of GB form application.
- We will wait payment for 48 hours.
- If 48 hours exceeds, application will be canceled and and invoice will be avoided.
- We will charge shipping cost to you.
- We will charge paypal fee (3.9% + 0.3USD including shipping cost) to you.
- Kit price will be 349USD, includes 4 Aluminium parts, 2 Polycarbonate frames, 2 nameplates, PCB, bumpons, bolts, Black-titanium-coated switch mounting plate.
- We will ship package via EMS service with tracking number.
Thanks for your interest guys!
GB will be open within a week.
We are all set.
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Sat, 05 November 2016, 18:46:06
Post by: Norman_the_Owl on Sat, 05 November 2016, 21:02:25
Post by: Slash Emperor on Sat, 05 November 2016, 21:55:47
Announcement from team oddforge
B-class stock GB schedule & process
- We will announce exact starting time at lease 48 hours before joining form opens. (time in KST, which is UTC+9 https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/kst (https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/kst))
- We will send you invoice within 24 hours, in order of GB form application.
- We will wait payment for 48 hours.
- If 48 hours exceeds, application will be canceled and and invoice will be avoided.
- We will charge shipping cost to you.
- We will charge paypal fee (3.9% + 0.3USD including shipping cost) to you.
- Kit price will be 349USD, includes 4 Aluminium parts, 2 Polycarbonate frames, 2 nameplates, PCB, bumpons, bolts, Black-titanium-coated switch mounting plate.
- We will ship package via EMS service with tracking number.
Thanks for your interest guys!
GB will be open within a week.
We are all set.
Great, I look forward to it!
Post by: zefyr on Sat, 05 November 2016, 23:00:14
I guess the PCB only option is gone now?
PCB count is not that enough at this point.
Post by: Norman_the_Owl on Sun, 06 November 2016, 07:14:53
Post by: clappingcactus on Sun, 06 November 2016, 12:02:37
I guess the PCB only option is gone now?
I guess the PCB only option is gone now?
PCB count is not that enough at this point.
Guess I'm in for the B-Stock group buy after all. Unless there are plans to produce more PCBs later?
Post by: hkf on Sun, 06 November 2016, 15:39:09
I guess the PCB only option is gone now?
PCB count is not that enough at this point.
RIP
Going to get FR-300 after all :D
Post by: zefyr on Mon, 07 November 2016, 00:54:45
B-stock GB will be starts at November 9, 02:00 PM KST
Korea Standard Time, KST November 09, 2016 14:00
Pacific Standard Time, PST November 08, 2016 21:00
Central Standard Time, CST November 08, 2016 23:00
Eastern Standard Time, EST November 09, 2016 00:00
Mountain Standard Time, MST November 08, 2016 22:00
Western European Time, WET November 09, 2016 05:00
Central European Time, CET November 09, 2016 06:00
Time converter
http://ko.thetimenow.com/time-zone-converter.php
GB Application form URL
https://goo.gl/forms/3vMzfTmYTQvxG3zq1
Thanks for your high interests on our keyboard.
Post by: Gatix on Mon, 07 November 2016, 02:56:14
Post by: Slash Emperor on Mon, 07 November 2016, 08:40:50
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 07 November 2016, 11:22:19
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Mon, 07 November 2016, 11:30:34
What kind of defects can we expect to see on the B-Stock versions?
There are some photos on the last page that illustrate what's to be expected.
Post by: Saiph on Mon, 07 November 2016, 11:33:29
EDIT: Also, what have people been using for spacebars on cherry profile keysets?
Post by: krisst on Mon, 07 November 2016, 11:59:54
Does the converted US times in the email take into account daylight savings?
EDIT: Also, what have people been using for spacebars on cherry profile keysets?
A full-size keyboard keycap set with additional 1.75u rightshift key should fit VE.A. Cherry profile 2.75u right shiftkey and 2u numpad 0 key should fit well as spacebars.
Post by: zefyr on Mon, 07 November 2016, 20:13:01
Does the converted US times in the email take into account daylight savings?
EDIT: Also, what have people been using for spacebars on cherry profile keysets?
I have no idea about daylight saving offset.
How about try convert it?
Exact time will be "Nov 9 14:00 KST" that's all.
Post by: Slash Emperor on Tue, 08 November 2016, 22:03:56
Does the converted US times in the email take into account daylight savings?
EDIT: Also, what have people been using for spacebars on cherry profile keysets?
I have no idea about daylight saving offset.
How about try convert it?
Exact time will be "Nov 9 14:00 KST" that's all.
Just filled the form, though it would not let me put 0 down for the Gray option (I just wanted 1 Silver kit). I left a note stating that I only want one B-stock kit and prefer silver to gray. If silver is unavailable, however, I'll take the gray (or black, if gray is also gone).
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Tue, 08 November 2016, 22:08:02
Does the converted US times in the email take into account daylight savings?
EDIT: Also, what have people been using for spacebars on cherry profile keysets?
I have no idea about daylight saving offset.
How about try convert it?
Exact time will be "Nov 9 14:00 KST" that's all.
Just filled the form, though it would not let me put 0 down for the Gray option (I just wanted 1 Silver kit). I left a note stating that I only want one B-stock kit and prefer silver to gray. If silver is unavailable, however, I'll take the gray (or black, if gray is also gone).
I think they only wanted you to fill in the ones you wanted, not a 0 for those you don't want. Or at least I hope as that's what I did too with the black one :D
Post by: Slash Emperor on Tue, 08 November 2016, 22:10:03
Does the converted US times in the email take into account daylight savings?
EDIT: Also, what have people been using for spacebars on cherry profile keysets?
I have no idea about daylight saving offset.
How about try convert it?
Exact time will be "Nov 9 14:00 KST" that's all.
Just filled the form, though it would not let me put 0 down for the Gray option (I just wanted 1 Silver kit). I left a note stating that I only want one B-stock kit and prefer silver to gray. If silver is unavailable, however, I'll take the gray (or black, if gray is also gone).
I think they only wanted you to fill in the ones you wanted, not a 0 for those you don't want. Or at least I hope as that's what I did too with the black one :D
Ah, I was not sure. I hope it is clear enough on the form. I'm sending zefyr a PM right now just in case. Also glad that the form came in an hour earlier than expected, likely due to Daylight Savings, because I have to get up for work tomorrow.
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 08 November 2016, 22:12:37
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Tue, 08 November 2016, 22:27:22
who is gonna do alps?
Nope.
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 08 November 2016, 22:29:13
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Tue, 08 November 2016, 22:30:41
who is gonna do alps?
Nope.
cherry?
Possibly, may have some vintage clears or something. Kind of unsure what I'll actually use.
Post by: Slash Emperor on Tue, 08 November 2016, 22:33:55
Post by: zefyr on Tue, 08 November 2016, 22:40:09
Does the converted US times in the email take into account daylight savings?
EDIT: Also, what have people been using for spacebars on cherry profile keysets?
I have no idea about daylight saving offset.
How about try convert it?
Exact time will be "Nov 9 14:00 KST" that's all.
Just filled the form, though it would not let me put 0 down for the Gray option (I just wanted 1 Silver kit). I left a note stating that I only want one B-stock kit and prefer silver to gray. If silver is unavailable, however, I'll take the gray (or black, if gray is also gone).
I think they only wanted you to fill in the ones you wanted, not a 0 for those you don't want. Or at least I hope as that's what I did too with the black one :D
Ah, I was not sure. I hope it is clear enough on the form. I'm sending zefyr a PM right now just in case. Also glad that the form came in an hour earlier than expected, likely due to Daylight Savings, because I have to get up for work tomorrow.
That form was open by accident.
That's why that form act like that.
I don't know why google form opened before trigger run.
We will accept your application, and your request about color option is confirmed.
Thanks for your high interest.
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Tue, 08 November 2016, 22:44:31
Does the converted US times in the email take into account daylight savings?
EDIT: Also, what have people been using for spacebars on cherry profile keysets?
I have no idea about daylight saving offset.
How about try convert it?
Exact time will be "Nov 9 14:00 KST" that's all.
Just filled the form, though it would not let me put 0 down for the Gray option (I just wanted 1 Silver kit). I left a note stating that I only want one B-stock kit and prefer silver to gray. If silver is unavailable, however, I'll take the gray (or black, if gray is also gone).
I think they only wanted you to fill in the ones you wanted, not a 0 for those you don't want. Or at least I hope as that's what I did too with the black one :D
Ah, I was not sure. I hope it is clear enough on the form. I'm sending zefyr a PM right now just in case. Also glad that the form came in an hour earlier than expected, likely due to Daylight Savings, because I have to get up for work tomorrow.
That form was open by accident.
That's why that form act like that.
I don't know why google form opened before trigger run.
We will accept your application, and your request about color option is confirmed.
Thanks for your high interest.
So to clarify, if we submitted we do not need to submit again, even though the form opened when it should not have?
Post by: MandrewDavis on Tue, 08 November 2016, 22:47:07
Post by: zefyr on Tue, 08 November 2016, 22:52:38
Does the converted US times in the email take into account daylight savings?
EDIT: Also, what have people been using for spacebars on cherry profile keysets?
I have no idea about daylight saving offset.
How about try convert it?
Exact time will be "Nov 9 14:00 KST" that's all.
Just filled the form, though it would not let me put 0 down for the Gray option (I just wanted 1 Silver kit). I left a note stating that I only want one B-stock kit and prefer silver to gray. If silver is unavailable, however, I'll take the gray (or black, if gray is also gone).
I think they only wanted you to fill in the ones you wanted, not a 0 for those you don't want. Or at least I hope as that's what I did too with the black one :D
Ah, I was not sure. I hope it is clear enough on the form. I'm sending zefyr a PM right now just in case. Also glad that the form came in an hour earlier than expected, likely due to Daylight Savings, because I have to get up for work tomorrow.
That form was open by accident.
That's why that form act like that.
I don't know why google form opened before trigger run.
We will accept your application, and your request about color option is confirmed.
Thanks for your high interest.
So to clarify, if we submitted we do not need to submit again, even though the form opened when it should not have?
Yes, unless you want to change your option or quantity.
(Yours will be processed as silver as you noted)
Post by: zefyr on Tue, 08 November 2016, 22:55:06
Post by: Slash Emperor on Tue, 08 November 2016, 22:56:28
Thank you for honoring the submission even with the early opening and accepting the color request.
Post by: MandrewDavis on Tue, 08 November 2016, 22:57:34
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Tue, 08 November 2016, 22:58:20
Does the converted US times in the email take into account daylight savings?
EDIT: Also, what have people been using for spacebars on cherry profile keysets?
I have no idea about daylight saving offset.
How about try convert it?
Exact time will be "Nov 9 14:00 KST" that's all.
Just filled the form, though it would not let me put 0 down for the Gray option (I just wanted 1 Silver kit). I left a note stating that I only want one B-stock kit and prefer silver to gray. If silver is unavailable, however, I'll take the gray (or black, if gray is also gone).
I think they only wanted you to fill in the ones you wanted, not a 0 for those you don't want. Or at least I hope as that's what I did too with the black one :D
Ah, I was not sure. I hope it is clear enough on the form. I'm sending zefyr a PM right now just in case. Also glad that the form came in an hour earlier than expected, likely due to Daylight Savings, because I have to get up for work tomorrow.
That form was open by accident.
That's why that form act like that.
I don't know why google form opened before trigger run.
We will accept your application, and your request about color option is confirmed.
Thanks for your high interest.
So to clarify, if we submitted we do not need to submit again, even though the form opened when it should not have?
Yes, unless you want to change your option or quantity.
(Yours will be processed as silver as you noted)
I think you have me confused with Slash Emperor, he requested silver and I requested black when the form opened previously.
Post by: zefyr on Tue, 08 November 2016, 22:59:50
I think you have me confused with Slash Emperor, he requested silver and I requested black when the form opened previously.
Nope, yours is black.
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Tue, 08 November 2016, 23:01:17
I think you have me confused with Slash Emperor, he requested silver and I requested black when the form opened previously.
Nope, yours is black.
Oh good :)
Post by: clappingcactus on Tue, 08 November 2016, 23:02:41
Hope I still get what I want.
Post by: JDragon on Tue, 08 November 2016, 23:03:23
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Tue, 08 November 2016, 23:12:17
Well I submitted. Kind of upset that I'm here on time but people got access early. :(
Hope I still get what I want.
To be fair, I think it was only two of us that stumbled in early and got lucky.
Post by: zefyr on Tue, 08 November 2016, 23:16:11
Well I submitted. Kind of upset that I'm here on time but people got access early. :(
Hope I still get what I want.
To be fair, I think it was only two of us that stumbled in early and got lucky.
I don't think it is fair.
It was accident, and we are very uncomfortable with our mistake.
We organized this for a long time.
I really don't know why that form opened earlier than I scheduled.
Post by: clappingcactus on Tue, 08 November 2016, 23:18:59
Well I submitted. Kind of upset that I'm here on time but people got access early. :(
Hope I still get what I want.
To be fair, I think it was only two of us that stumbled in early and got lucky.
I'm okay with that. You two were around and checking a whole hour early. I'm sure you two would have submitted your forms before I did.
To say otherwise would be to be petty.
Post by: zefyr on Tue, 08 November 2016, 23:28:20
Well I submitted. Kind of upset that I'm here on time but people got access early. :(
Hope I still get what I want.
To be fair, I think it was only two of us that stumbled in early and got lucky.
I'm okay with that. You two were around and checking a whole hour early. I'm sure you two would have submitted your forms before I did.
To say otherwise would be to be petty.
Please, do not make this worse...
We are really sorry about our mistake.
Application count is halted now.
There's many stocks left.
Post by: zefyr on Tue, 08 November 2016, 23:37:53
Black 11
Gray 4
Silver 1
Post by: clappingcactus on Tue, 08 November 2016, 23:48:54
Well I submitted. Kind of upset that I'm here on time but people got access early. :(
Hope I still get what I want.
To be fair, I think it was only two of us that stumbled in early and got lucky.
I'm okay with that. You two were around and checking a whole hour early. I'm sure you two would have submitted your forms before I did.
To say otherwise would be to be petty.
Please, do not make this worse...
We are really sorry about our mistake.
Application count is halted now.
There's many stocks left.
I'm not making it worse. :P
I was saying I'm okay with all outcomes. :)
Including this one.
Post by: zefyr on Tue, 08 November 2016, 23:51:20
I'm not making it worse. :P
I was saying I'm okay with all outcomes. :)
Including this one.
Ah, I was so embarrassed for that.
Thanks for kind words.
Post by: Gatix on Wed, 09 November 2016, 00:11:57
Post by: slickmamba on Wed, 09 November 2016, 00:15:07
Post by: zefyr on Wed, 09 November 2016, 00:21:54
If you apply for silver, you will be on queue.
Stock
Black 11
Gray 3
Post by: el-Chapino-del-Pepino on Wed, 09 November 2016, 00:27:58
Post by: JDragon on Wed, 09 November 2016, 02:46:40
Post by: zefyr on Wed, 09 November 2016, 02:53:50
Will we only know if we made it when the invoice comes?
All application will be accepted so far.
Stock count is enough.
Except silver it is OOS now, however, JDragon you are in.
Post by: el-Chapino-del-Pepino on Wed, 09 November 2016, 10:01:17
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Wed, 09 November 2016, 10:24:52
I still have not gotten a PayPal invoice? I just wanted to check and be sure that I am in line for one of these!
"We will send you invoice within 24 hours, in order of GB form application."
It's also 1:30 AM in Korea right now, so I wouldn't expect an invoice for the next little bit anyway.
Post by: el-Chapino-del-Pepino on Wed, 09 November 2016, 12:04:44
I still have not gotten a PayPal invoice? I just wanted to check and be sure that I am in line for one of these!
"We will send you invoice within 24 hours, in order of GB form application."
It's also 1:30 AM in Korea right now, so I wouldn't expect an invoice for the next little bit anyway.
Ah! I misread the initial post, I thought I had 24 hours to pay, and was getting worried that that window was halfway over without an invoice. I see now that the max turn-around time would be about 3 days, with the 24hr request window and the 48hr completion window.
Post by: JDragon on Wed, 09 November 2016, 18:32:12
Will we only know if we made it when the invoice comes?
All application will be accepted so far.
Stock count is enough.
Except silver it is OOS now, however, JDragon you are in.
:eek:
<3
Can't wait :D
Post by: litster on Wed, 09 November 2016, 18:40:12
Post by: MandrewDavis on Wed, 09 November 2016, 19:18:07
Thanks for making B stock available. though I am surprised it is not sold out immediately, given so many people missed the original drop.
It was run very nicely too! The two day warning meant no unknown opening date or need to endlessly F5.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 09 November 2016, 19:21:52
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Wed, 09 November 2016, 19:51:25
Post by: hkf on Wed, 09 November 2016, 19:59:31
Post by: clappingcactus on Wed, 09 November 2016, 20:13:00
Post by: MandrewDavis on Wed, 09 November 2016, 20:17:32
(http://i.imgur.com/BYSHp6k.jpg)
Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 09 November 2016, 20:32:30
Post by: daviswalkers on Wed, 09 November 2016, 21:06:49
Post by: Slash Emperor on Wed, 09 November 2016, 21:40:12
Post by: MandrewDavis on Wed, 09 November 2016, 22:56:33
I was inspired by the LZ ErGO and made a quick CAD design of what could be done with a VE.A pcb. A split acrylic VE.A case is quite difficult to design when accounting for kerf. Extremely annoying to get the two halves fit together nicely as the laser cutting machine slows down around corners and cuts a wider line.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/BYSHp6k.jpg)
Very cool, glad to help :)
Big thanks! I couldn't just stand missing out and got in on B-Stock. As a result I may end up selling ZZ96 GB spot.
That signature haha
Post by: wodan on Thu, 10 November 2016, 00:14:43
Paid.
Post by: JDragon on Thu, 10 November 2016, 03:24:19
Post by: Gatix on Thu, 10 November 2016, 07:05:11
Post by: Norman_the_Owl on Thu, 10 November 2016, 07:16:45
Post by: el-Chapino-del-Pepino on Thu, 10 November 2016, 15:48:44
Is there a timeline on shipping, since this is b.stock I assume you have them on hand. No rush just curious so I can prepare the supplies I need to put it together.
Also curious.
Post by: jgodinez302 on Thu, 10 November 2016, 16:35:50
Post by: Saiph on Thu, 10 November 2016, 16:37:20
Crap! Forgot to put this on my calendar and i totally forgot so i missed out :(There might be black left? you can try submitting the form
Post by: ildustry on Thu, 10 November 2016, 18:23:16
I`m ildustry a member of oddforge. Nice to meet you guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We are sending invoice and checking your order and payment.
Silver is sold out.
Gray is 1 left.
Black is 9 left.
We already finish our VE.A`s pakages.
But we must wait payment for 48 hours for all you guys after that we will check your address and make EMS paper for shipping.
We expect to ship on next Tuesday 11/15/2016 as early.
I`ll tell you if the schedule is changed.
Thank you!
Post by: Norman_the_Owl on Thu, 10 November 2016, 18:32:27
Crap! Forgot to put this on my calendar and i totally forgot so i missed out :(
There are still a bunch available
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 10 November 2016, 19:47:30
Hi! geeks,
I`m ildustry a member of oddforge. Nice to meet you guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We are sending invoice and checking your order and payment.
Silver is sold out.
Gray is 1 left.
Black is 9 left.
We already finish our VE.A`s pakages.
But we must wait payment for 48 hours for all you guys after that we will check your address and make EMS paper for shipping.
We expect to ship on next Tuesday 11/15/2016 as early.
I`ll tell you if the schedule is changed.
Thank you!
Hi there, nice to meet you! Thank you for the update, looking forward to shipment next week.
Post by: ildustry on Fri, 11 November 2016, 06:34:42
Silver is done.
We have only blacks.
Post by: zefyr on Sun, 13 November 2016, 23:25:15
We shipped out today :)
(http://i.imgur.com/BXSXKp2.jpg)
You can track status at following link.
https://trace.epost.go.kr//xtts/tt/epost/ems/ems_eng.jsp
Your tracking number is set on your PP invoice.
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Sun, 13 November 2016, 23:45:34
Post by: hkf on Mon, 14 November 2016, 15:47:54
B-stock shipped!
We shipped out today :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/BXSXKp2.jpg)
You can track status at following link.
https://trace.epost.go.kr//xtts/tt/epost/ems/ems_eng.jsp
Your tracking number is set on your PP invoice.
Gonna assume that my PCB + Plate only isn't going to happen, all good, a quality few hours with the desoldering kit ;)
Post by: MandrewDavis on Thu, 17 November 2016, 13:46:55
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Thu, 17 November 2016, 13:59:52
Wow, shipping was fast! Unfortunately I was at school so missed the mailman :(
I should see mine Monday according to tracking. Pretty pumped about it.
Post by: DormantLemon on Thu, 17 November 2016, 14:02:01
Wow, shipping was fast! Unfortunately I was at school so missed the mailman :(
I should see mine Monday according to tracking. Pretty pumped about it.
I see customs charges raised on mine today. Not unexpected of course, but a bit of a downer nonetheless
Post by: daviswalkers on Thu, 17 November 2016, 14:24:47
However when I was testing my LED's I did notice that none of the "lock" LED's would light up, and neither would the top two macro keys? Everything else seems to be fine though!
Post by: briannnn on Thu, 17 November 2016, 14:31:31
Got mine today and was so hyped to start building it, got everything ready then realized that the switches were still with zeal's gb :( rip my heart.
However when I was testing my LED's I did notice that none of the "lock" LED's would light up, and neither would the top two macro keys? Everything else seems to be fine though!
I don't know what's up with the macro keys, but the lock light LEDs all need resistors added.
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 17 November 2016, 15:04:22
Post by: daviswalkers on Thu, 17 November 2016, 15:34:48
Wish I had some resistors then :/ guess I got time to order some though.Got mine today and was so hyped to start building it, got everything ready then realized that the switches were still with zeal's gb :( rip my heart.
However when I was testing my LED's I did notice that none of the "lock" LED's would light up, and neither would the top two macro keys? Everything else seems to be fine though!
I don't know what's up with the macro keys, but the lock light LEDs all need resistors added.
Post by: MajorKoos on Thu, 17 November 2016, 21:53:08
I had to really look to find the "defects".
It definitely speaks to the incredibly high standards set by the Oddforge team.
Thanks for making this GB possible.
Post by: zefyr on Fri, 18 November 2016, 00:20:48
We hope you enjoy it!
It's almost gone now.
We have a few blacks and ONE gray left.
https://goo.gl/forms/3vMzfTmYTQvxG3zq1
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 18 November 2016, 05:19:04
We have a few blacks and ONE gray left.
Stop tempting me.... I want one soo bad, but there is so much going on right now.
Post by: Slash Emperor on Fri, 18 November 2016, 07:28:02
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 18 November 2016, 17:28:26
Post by: MandrewDavis on Fri, 18 November 2016, 21:28:54
I just found out that VE.A does not have NKRO and is only 1+6KRO, will this be upgraded in the future?
Most Winkeyless style board able to run ps2avr support NKRO with PS2 and 6KRO with USB. At what point have you ever needed more than 6KRO?
Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 18 November 2016, 21:42:51
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 18 November 2016, 21:53:25
I just found out that VE.A does not have NKRO and is only 1+6KRO, will this be upgraded in the future?
Most Winkeyless style board able to run ps2avr support NKRO with PS2 and 6KRO with USB. At what point have you ever needed more than 6KRO?
I am trying to learn a bit Stenography on a modern keyboard, still don't know if any chord will exceed 6 keys.
So that means if I can convert the VE.A back to PS/2 with an adapter, there can be NKRO? However, my main computer is a laptop: without any PS/2 connection.
To be exact, they wrote "6+1 Key rollover" on their website:
At the specification below: http://oddforge.com/product/vea_information (http://oddforge.com/product/vea_information)
Post by: MajorKoos on Fri, 18 November 2016, 21:58:44
I just found out that VE.A does not have NKRO and is only 1+6KRO, will this be upgraded in the future?
Most Winkeyless style board able to run ps2avr support NKRO with PS2 and 6KRO with USB. At what point have you ever needed more than 6KRO?
I am trying to learn a bit Stenography on a modern keyboard, still don't know if any chord will exceed 6 keys.
So that means if I can convert the VE.A back to PS/2 with an adapter, there can be NKRO? However, my main computer is a laptop: without any PS/2 connection.
To be exact, they wrote "6+1 Key rollover" on their website:
At the specification below: http://oddforge.com/product/vea_information (http://oddforge.com/product/vea_information)
Why not get a Planck for stenography purposes?
Post by: MandrewDavis on Fri, 18 November 2016, 22:08:07
I just found out that VE.A does not have NKRO and is only 1+6KRO, will this be upgraded in the future?
Most Winkeyless style boards running ps2avr will support NKRO with PS2 and 6KRO with USB. At what point have you ever needed more than 6KRO?
1+6RKO is that one +'s keyboard for the one plus 2? T_T
WAT?
Anyway, @menuhin boards running ps2avrGB should support NKRO over PS/2 but with a laptop, something like a Soarer's converter might be needed to retain the NKRO. Like MajorKoos suggested, plancks seem to be popular with people doing stenography.
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 18 November 2016, 22:17:10
I can foresee that I'm probably using VE.A as my main board, or some of the 75%+ board. Being able to use these keyboards also for Stenography can probably give me flexibility.
Post by: clappingcactus on Fri, 18 November 2016, 23:44:00
Thanks a second time, oddforge.
Post by: HTN47 on Sat, 19 November 2016, 18:18:12
Thank you in advance!
Sorry again if this has been answered already.
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Sat, 19 November 2016, 18:19:26
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Sat, 19 November 2016, 22:51:28
i love ya zefyrrrr
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Sat, 19 November 2016, 23:03:42
oh goooooooooood it seems that i'm a bit late for this b-sale stock. but i've submitted my forms, if there's still a stock available pls pls pls invoice me lololol
i love ya zefyrrrr
Last I saw there was still stock, so I think you're good!
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Sat, 19 November 2016, 23:48:11
oh goooooooooood it seems that i'm a bit late for this b-sale stock. but i've submitted my forms, if there's still a stock available pls pls pls invoice me lololol
i love ya zefyrrrr
Last I saw there was still stock, so I think you're good!
i hope so!
i've read the terms and condition (sorry about not reading it before, too excited.), zefyr pls look at my form, and delete the older entry as i have to change my shipping address. thank you!
Post by: Blackhawk on Sun, 20 November 2016, 11:58:39
OK, we see now you guys got yours :)
We hope you enjoy it!
It's almost gone now.
We have a few blacks and ONE gray left.
https://goo.gl/forms/3vMzfTmYTQvxG3zq1
Is it possible to order with an acrylic tenting stand?
Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 20 November 2016, 15:54:24
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Sun, 20 November 2016, 17:37:14
OK, we see now you guys got yours :)
We hope you enjoy it!
It's almost gone now.
We have a few blacks and ONE gray left.
https://goo.gl/forms/3vMzfTmYTQvxG3zq1
Is it possible to order with an acrylic tenting stand?
No, but i remember that he give us the cad file, somewhere...
Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 20 November 2016, 18:28:54
Post by: MandrewDavis on Sun, 20 November 2016, 19:33:39
OK, we see now you guys got yours :)
We hope you enjoy it!
It's almost gone now.
We have a few blacks and ONE gray left.
https://goo.gl/forms/3vMzfTmYTQvxG3zq1
Is it possible to order with an acrylic tenting stand?
No, but i remember that he give us the cad file, somewhere...
Click on the kbdlab link on the Oddforge VE.A resources page (http://oddforge.com/product/vea_resource). Its written in Korean so you need to ctrl+f "dxf" to find the file download.
Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 20 November 2016, 19:44:02
Post by: MandrewDavis on Sun, 20 November 2016, 20:01:28
OK, we see now you guys got yours :)
We hope you enjoy it!
It's almost gone now.
We have a few blacks and ONE gray left.
https://goo.gl/forms/3vMzfTmYTQvxG3zq1
Is it possible to order with an acrylic tenting stand?
No, but i remember that he give us the cad file, somewhere...
Click on the kbdlab link on the Oddforge VE.A resources page (http://oddforge.com/product/vea_resource). Its written in Korean so you need to ctrl+f "dxf" to find the file download.
use ctrl + eyeballs
(https://i.imgur.com/wjO3dGv.jpg)
Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 20 November 2016, 20:06:31
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Sun, 20 November 2016, 23:41:10
Post by: funis21 on Mon, 21 November 2016, 01:25:08
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Mon, 21 November 2016, 05:27:23
Snagging that one last gray one. Hope it's still there.
oops sorry... i snagged that one :-X
Post by: JDragon on Mon, 21 November 2016, 13:39:58
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 21 November 2016, 13:52:28
Post by: DormantLemon on Mon, 21 November 2016, 13:55:40
Can someone help me w/ lock LED resistors? Would these be appropriate? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PANASONIC-Thick-Film-Chip-Resistor-910-Ohm-5-0402-50V-100mW-SMD-NEW-Qty-50-/201699328639?hash=item2ef637827f:g:WGAAAOSwpDdVCw-H
I was about to ask the same thing
Post by: JDragon on Mon, 21 November 2016, 14:56:03
Can someone help me w/ lock LED resistors? Would these be appropriate? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PANASONIC-Thick-Film-Chip-Resistor-910-Ohm-5-0402-50V-100mW-SMD-NEW-Qty-50-/201699328639?hash=item2ef637827f:g:WGAAAOSwpDdVCw-H
if you only need three I can mail you some for nothing
All good, I figure this way I have plenty of extras in case I lose one... or twenty.
Post by: zefyr on Tue, 22 November 2016, 03:45:15
Can someone help me w/ lock LED resistors? Would these be appropriate? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PANASONIC-Thick-Film-Chip-Resistor-910-Ohm-5-0402-50V-100mW-SMD-NEW-Qty-50-/201699328639?hash=item2ef637827f:g:WGAAAOSwpDdVCw-H
if you only need three I can mail you some for nothing
All good, I figure this way I have plenty of extras in case I lose one... or twenty.
OR, you can get 7 more VE.As.
I think this is the best way.
Post by: joey on Tue, 22 November 2016, 03:58:55
OR, you can get 7 more VE.As.Can't argue with that logic.
I think this is the best way.
Post by: Data on Tue, 22 November 2016, 08:00:52
Can someone help me w/ lock LED resistors? Would these be appropriate? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PANASONIC-Thick-Film-Chip-Resistor-910-Ohm-5-0402-50V-100mW-SMD-NEW-Qty-50-/201699328639?hash=item2ef637827f:g:WGAAAOSwpDdVCw-H
if you only need three I can mail you some for nothing
All good, I figure this way I have plenty of extras in case I lose one... or twenty.
OR, you can get 7 more VE.As.
I think this is the best way.
Brilliant!
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Tue, 22 November 2016, 10:49:25
Can someone help me w/ lock LED resistors? Would these be appropriate? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PANASONIC-Thick-Film-Chip-Resistor-910-Ohm-5-0402-50V-100mW-SMD-NEW-Qty-50-/201699328639?hash=item2ef637827f:g:WGAAAOSwpDdVCw-H
if you only need three I can mail you some for nothing
All good, I figure this way I have plenty of extras in case I lose one... or twenty.
OR, you can get 7 more VE.As.
I think this is the best way.
one ve.a are enough to make my wallet cry.. but now, 7??
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 22 November 2016, 11:06:32
Post by: JDragon on Tue, 22 November 2016, 11:53:11
Can someone help me w/ lock LED resistors? Would these be appropriate? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PANASONIC-Thick-Film-Chip-Resistor-910-Ohm-5-0402-50V-100mW-SMD-NEW-Qty-50-/201699328639?hash=item2ef637827f:g:WGAAAOSwpDdVCw-H
if you only need three I can mail you some for nothingShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/TiQkx2I.jpg)
All good, I figure this way I have plenty of extras in case I lose one... or twenty.
OR, you can get 7 more VE.As.
I think this is the best way.
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Tue, 22 November 2016, 17:45:34
Can someone help me w/ lock LED resistors? Would these be appropriate? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PANASONIC-Thick-Film-Chip-Resistor-910-Ohm-5-0402-50V-100mW-SMD-NEW-Qty-50-/201699328639?hash=item2ef637827f:g:WGAAAOSwpDdVCw-H
if you only need three I can mail you some for nothing
All good, I figure this way I have plenty of extras in case I lose one... or twenty.
OR, you can get 7 more VE.As.
I think this is the best way.
one ve.a are enough to make my wallet cry.. but now, 7??
technically the b stock I ordered is my third :-X
Post by: LDobler on Sat, 26 November 2016, 15:00:30
Thanks in advance! :)
Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 26 November 2016, 15:28:06
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Sat, 26 November 2016, 22:31:59
Hello, how are the packages marked (value) regarding customs fees?
Thanks in advance! :)
mine was marked $349 as well.
i thought zefyr had said that he didn't accept undervalue, iirc?
Post by: LDobler on Sun, 27 November 2016, 05:39:54
Post by: Gatix on Sun, 27 November 2016, 06:07:58
Post by: JDragon on Mon, 28 November 2016, 14:04:29
Can someone help me w/ lock LED resistors? Would these be appropriate? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PANASONIC-Thick-Film-Chip-Resistor-910-Ohm-5-0402-50V-100mW-SMD-NEW-Qty-50-/201699328639?hash=item2ef637827f:g:WGAAAOSwpDdVCw-H
Bumping this question - got an eBay gift card burning a hole in my pocket and want to double check before I buy resistors. Thanks!
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 28 November 2016, 14:34:26
Post by: clappingcactus on Mon, 28 November 2016, 19:34:22
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/5ffoj8/caon_h_black_vea_assembled_silver_vea_bstock_kit/
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Sat, 03 December 2016, 00:04:24
Post by: clappingcactus on Sat, 03 December 2016, 08:35:52
can anyone tell me if bootmapper supports lock switches?
If you short the Lock LED connection, I'm assuming yes.
On my VE.A they're not shorted but the Bootmapper client does have an option to pick which mapped key has which lock status. It's grayed out, though.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 03 December 2016, 11:08:09
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Sat, 03 December 2016, 11:48:51
can anyone tell me if bootmapper supports lock switches?
If you short the Lock LED connection, I'm assuming yes.
On my VE.A they're not shorted but the Bootmapper client does have an option to pick which mapped key has which lock status. It's grayed out, though.
why would the indicator LEDs affect how the switch is handled? LEDs are an output, switches are input
Post by: Define on Mon, 05 December 2016, 12:39:56
Post by: zefyr on Mon, 05 December 2016, 23:45:38
Thanks for your interests.
For those interested at PCB,
We do not have enough PCB left.
So, PCB only GB is gone.
We have no better words for apologize.
Just hoping you could understand us.
Thanks to you all!
We will be back soon with brand new design!
Post by: wodan on Mon, 05 December 2016, 23:48:33
https://deskthority.net/final-vote-f101/best-modern-keyboard-or-company-t15248.html (https://deskthority.net/final-vote-f101/best-modern-keyboard-or-company-t15248.html)
Post by: zefyr on Tue, 06 December 2016, 02:21:30
The VE.A made it into the DTA finals this year:
https://deskthority.net/final-vote-f101/best-modern-keyboard-or-company-t15248.html (https://deskthority.net/final-vote-f101/best-modern-keyboard-or-company-t15248.html)
Ah, this is an unexpected surprise :)
I gotta create DT account, for vote. lol
Post by: wodan on Tue, 06 December 2016, 02:22:35
Post by: zefyr on Tue, 06 December 2016, 02:34:03
Would be great to see you post over there and say Hi to your fans :)
We will do :)
Thanks~
Post by: LDobler on Tue, 06 December 2016, 06:12:41
Post by: Potatomonkey on Wed, 07 December 2016, 00:14:21
Post by: hkf on Wed, 07 December 2016, 18:39:09
B-stock is sold out.
Thanks for your interests.
For those interested at PCB,
We do not have enough PCB left.
So, PCB only GB is gone.
We have no better words for apologize.
Just hoping you could understand us.
Thanks to you all!
We will be back soon with brand new design!
rip dream.
Post by: clappingcactus on Wed, 07 December 2016, 22:55:35
We will be back soon with brand new design!
How soon? I want to save up for this! :P
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Wed, 07 December 2016, 23:17:38
We will be back soon with brand new design!
How soon? I want to save up for this! :P
+1!
i will be waiting for your creation (split keyboard with numpad on the left seems sick..)
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 08 December 2016, 09:45:55
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 13 December 2016, 18:09:47
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 13 December 2016, 21:22:14
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Wed, 14 December 2016, 10:20:15
Any case/carrying recommendations guys?
don't travel with customs, extremely hard to sell it if it's damaged greatly.
I don't think i'll be able to sell them..
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 14 December 2016, 11:01:34
Any case/carrying recommendations guys?
don't travel with customs, extremely hard to sell it if it's damaged greatly.
While I appreciate your concern, I am going to travel with it and would love some ideas towards protecting it while I do
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 14 December 2016, 12:08:48
Any case/carrying recommendations guys?
don't travel with customs, extremely hard to sell it if it's damaged greatly.
While I appreciate your concern, I am going to travel with it and would love some ideas towards protecting it while I do
Pelican cases if you are willing to spend a good chunk of change.
Post by: jgodinez302 on Wed, 14 December 2016, 12:17:11
Any case/carrying recommendations guys?
don't travel with customs, extremely hard to sell it if it's damaged greatly.
While I appreciate your concern, I am going to travel with it and would love some ideas towards protecting it while I do
Good man...... what's the point in spending the money if you don't truly get use out of it (wherever you go). I appreciate customs and keeping them in tact, but I believe in putting all my boards to great use.
Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 14 December 2016, 14:51:16
Post by: zefyr on Wed, 14 December 2016, 22:21:33
Any case/carrying recommendations guys?
don't travel with customs, extremely hard to sell it if it's damaged greatly.
While I appreciate your concern, I am going to travel with it and would love some ideas towards protecting it while I do
Good man...... what's the point in spending the money if you don't truly get use out of it (wherever you go). I appreciate customs and keeping them in tact, but I believe in putting all my boards to great use.
well I have a pelican case for a TKL, but I only used it once.. seems kinda risky to constantly travel, but yeah that's your best and pretty much only option worth doing
I use EVA case when carrying.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281163032643?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Sat, 17 December 2016, 21:36:17
Any case/carrying recommendations guys?
don't travel with customs, extremely hard to sell it if it's damaged greatly.
While I appreciate your concern, I am going to travel with it and would love some ideas towards protecting it while I do
Good man...... what's the point in spending the money if you don't truly get use out of it (wherever you go). I appreciate customs and keeping them in tact, but I believe in putting all my boards to great use.
well I have a pelican case for a TKL, but I only used it once.. seems kinda risky to constantly travel, but yeah that's your best and pretty much only option worth doing
I use EVA case when carrying.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281163032643?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
i've made my own custom case for carrying a split keyboard like ve.a /ergo pro, but it hasn't come yet...
sorry for changing the topic, but;
do anyone here have SA keycaps that they could use on their VE.A? i was considering Dasher Dancer but i want to see how VE.A goes with SA Keycaps set..
a photo would be great :p
thanks!
Post by: krisst on Sat, 17 December 2016, 23:03:58
i've made my own custom case for carrying a split keyboard like ve.a /ergo pro, but it hasn't come yet...
sorry for changing the topic, but;
do anyone here have SA keycaps that they could use on their VE.A? i was considering Dasher Dancer but i want to see how VE.A goes with SA Keycaps set..
a photo would be great :p
thanks!
I would take some pics and post them but my VE.A still sitting here; un-assembled. Waiting on Zeal stabs.
Personally would be using cherry profiles on VE.A. After trying SA profiles, does not feels as good to type on, maybe because zealios wobble too much.
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Sat, 17 December 2016, 23:08:16
i've made my own custom case for carrying a split keyboard like ve.a /ergo pro, but it hasn't come yet...
sorry for changing the topic, but;
do anyone here have SA keycaps that they could use on their VE.A? i was considering Dasher Dancer but i want to see how VE.A goes with SA Keycaps set..
a photo would be great :p
thanks!
I would take some pics and post them but my VE.A still sitting here; un-assembled. Waiting on Zeal stabs.
Personally would be using cherry profiles on VE.A. After trying SA profiles, does not feels as good to type on, maybe because zealios wobble too much.
hmm, i guess you're right. the reason that i'm asking for the photo is because i was thinking that the SA profile would be too high for VE.A's slim case..
yes, cherry profile are great. i'm using my spare DCS Bumblebee right now, waiting for any good GMK that will (maybe) eventually show...
Post by: krisst on Sat, 17 December 2016, 23:38:31
i've made my own custom case for carrying a split keyboard like ve.a /ergo pro, but it hasn't come yet...
sorry for changing the topic, but;
do anyone here have SA keycaps that they could use on their VE.A? i was considering Dasher Dancer but i want to see how VE.A goes with SA Keycaps set..
a photo would be great :p
thanks!
I would take some pics and post them but my VE.A still sitting here; un-assembled. Waiting on Zeal stabs.
Personally would be using cherry profiles on VE.A. After trying SA profiles, does not feels as good to type on, maybe because zealios wobble too much.
hmm, i guess you're right. the reason that i'm asking for the photo is because i was thinking that the SA profile would be too high for VE.A's slim case..
yes, cherry profile are great. i'm using my spare DCS Bumblebee right now, waiting for any good GMK that will (maybe) eventually show...
Currently enjoying using Carbon GMK.
Maybe you can take a look at upcoming YURI GMK. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=76006.0
Post by: clappingcactus on Sun, 18 December 2016, 00:12:35
sorry for changing the topic, but;
do anyone here have SA keycaps that they could use on their VE.A? i was considering Dasher Dancer but i want to see how VE.A goes with SA Keycaps set..
a photo would be great :p
thanks!
Here you go
(http://i.imgur.com/DAvXZyb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/vI3kfIQ.jpg)
Personally, I wouldn't use a VE.A with any other keycap profile.
Post by: MandrewDavis on Sun, 18 December 2016, 00:35:47
For what its worth, I have heard that newest round of zealios fixed the wobble issue.
i've made my own custom case for carrying a split keyboard like ve.a /ergo pro, but it hasn't come yet...
sorry for changing the topic, but;
do anyone here have SA keycaps that they could use on their VE.A? i was considering Dasher Dancer but i want to see how VE.A goes with SA Keycaps set..
a photo would be great :p
thanks!
I would take some pics and post them but my VE.A still sitting here; un-assembled. Waiting on Zeal stabs.
Personally would be using cherry profiles on VE.A. After trying SA profiles, does not feels as good to type on, maybe because zealios wobble too much.
Post by: krisst on Sun, 18 December 2016, 01:49:45
For what its worth, I have heard that newest round of zealios fixed the wobble issue.
i've made my own custom case for carrying a split keyboard like ve.a /ergo pro, but it hasn't come yet...
sorry for changing the topic, but;
do anyone here have SA keycaps that they could use on their VE.A? i was considering Dasher Dancer but i want to see how VE.A goes with SA Keycaps set..
a photo would be great :p
thanks!
I would take some pics and post them but my VE.A still sitting here; un-assembled. Waiting on Zeal stabs.
Personally would be using cherry profiles on VE.A. After trying SA profiles, does not feels as good to type on, maybe because zealios wobble too much.
I have heard about that. Seems a little late for the fix. Next purchase probably will be a topre. Maybe wait till Oddforge's next design, then consider getting more zealios or mod switches.
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Sun, 18 December 2016, 04:25:23
sorry for changing the topic, but;
do anyone here have SA keycaps that they could use on their VE.A? i was considering Dasher Dancer but i want to see how VE.A goes with SA Keycaps set..
a photo would be great :p
thanks!
Here you goShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/DAvXZyb.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vI3kfIQ.jpg)
Personally, I wouldn't use a VE.A with any other keycap profile.
thank you! but i guess i'm right, for my hand that SA profile is just too high, i have to use another palm rest if i want to use SA profile..
Post by: clappingcactus on Sun, 18 December 2016, 08:02:12
I have heard about that. Seems a little late for the fix. Next purchase probably will be a topre. Maybe wait till Oddforge's next design, then consider getting more zealios or mod switches.
If wobble is your issue, nothing is going to ever mechanically beat Topre.
But the latest round of Zealios does fix the wobble problem from my experience with a switch tester pack. That said, after using Clears for 6 months, I can't get over just how much bumpiness/scratchiness is in a Zealio. But that's not a new issue.
Post by: MandrewDavis on Sun, 18 December 2016, 19:46:27
I have heard about that. Seems a little late for the fix. Next purchase probably will be a topre. Maybe wait till Oddforge's next design, then consider getting more zealios or mod switches.
If wobble is your issue, nothing is going to ever mechanically beat Topre.
But the latest round of Zealios does fix the wobble problem from my experience with a switch tester pack. That said, after using Clears for 6 months, I can't get over just how much bumpiness/scratchiness is in a Zealio. But that's not a new issue.
After getting into Alps, I am not the biggest fan of Zealios (or their price) but bumpiness?? and scratchiness are not an issue, especially compared to unlubed MX clears.
Post by: clappingcactus on Sun, 18 December 2016, 21:13:06
I have heard about that. Seems a little late for the fix. Next purchase probably will be a topre. Maybe wait till Oddforge's next design, then consider getting more zealios or mod switches.
If wobble is your issue, nothing is going to ever mechanically beat Topre.
But the latest round of Zealios does fix the wobble problem from my experience with a switch tester pack. That said, after using Clears for 6 months, I can't get over just how much bumpiness/scratchiness is in a Zealio. But that's not a new issue.
After getting into Alps, I am not the biggest fan of Zealios (or their price) but bumpiness?? and scratchiness are not an issue, especially compared to unlubed MX clears.
Maybe I'm crazy but I can feel two distinct 'bumps' in a Zealio. One's right at the bottom of the switch, and it always feels weird.
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Sun, 18 December 2016, 22:04:01
but i use matias ergo pro with quiet click switches for work, so i can kinda relate to MandrewDavis.
Post by: litster on Mon, 19 December 2016, 22:36:51
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 20 December 2016, 00:37:25
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Tue, 20 December 2016, 01:03:36
sorry for changing the topic, but;
do anyone here have SA keycaps that they could use on their VE.A? i was considering Dasher Dancer but i want to see how VE.A goes with SA Keycaps set..
a photo would be great :p
thanks!
Here you goShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/DAvXZyb.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vI3kfIQ.jpg)
Personally, I wouldn't use a VE.A with any other keycap profile.
thank you! but i guess i'm right, for my hand that SA profile is just too high, i have to use another palm rest if i want to use SA profile..
you know, after saying this i accidentaly ordered a SA Chronicler...you can hit me, i guess.... :-X
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Tue, 20 December 2016, 12:28:03
Post by: Gatix on Wed, 21 December 2016, 01:24:06
Post by: wodan on Wed, 21 December 2016, 01:39:38
Is it possible to have a different backlight color for each hand? I was able to do it but seems to be just a bug, it went to normal when rebooted.
Just get two VE.A, set one color each and then arrange them in a way that you only type on one half of each VE.A.
Another problem solved with money!
Post by: krisst on Wed, 21 December 2016, 03:50:32
Is it possible to have a different backlight color for each hand? I was able to do it but seems to be just a bug, it went to normal when rebooted.
Just get two VE.A, set one color each and then arrange them in a way that you only type on one half of each VE.A.
Another problem solved with money!
That might just add to the problem, he will want to have 4 different backlight colours with the 4 halves. Besides, desk space might be limited.
Post by: zefyr on Thu, 22 December 2016, 01:25:16
Is it possible to have a different backlight color for each hand? I was able to do it but seems to be just a bug, it went to normal when rebooted.
Just get two VE.A, set one color each and then arrange them in a way that you only type on one half of each VE.A.
Another problem solved with money!
Ah, that's not a solution.
Color is controlled by left half only. Right half is slave, it will follow settings of master(left).
But having two VE.A is a BRILLIANT idea.
Unfortunately, there's no stock left anymore.
.
.
.
lol
Post by: wodan on Thu, 22 December 2016, 01:27:45
But having two VE.A is a BRILLIANT idea.
Unfortunately, there's no stock left anymore.
Then it is time for the next round of VE.A!
Another problem solved with money!
Post by: MajorKoos on Thu, 22 December 2016, 07:06:31
I dream of a VE.A without the FN row - KMAC MINI style.
Post by: juahenza on Thu, 22 December 2016, 08:57:35
(http://i.imgur.com/5ud1AGV.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZsuvDZv.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZOzPcKA.jpg)
:))
Post by: romevi on Thu, 22 December 2016, 09:47:26
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/pzziFLp.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5ud1AGV.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZsuvDZv.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZOzPcKA.jpg)
:))
Best Bambino sculpt.
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 28 December 2016, 02:20:37
It's finally done! only things I have left to do are get rid of this atrocious sata cable and add lock leds as the resistors I ordered almost 2 months ago never showed up...also, ridiculously sad that these Cyan LEDs are more of a seafoam than cyan...at least they're sip socketed.
Post by: LDobler on Wed, 28 December 2016, 14:39:17
Thanks for your help in advance!!! :)
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 28 December 2016, 14:52:47
Hello, I'm going to assemble my B-stock kit soon and have a question: What do I need besides cables, soldering equipment, stabs, switches, keycaps and 1.8mm leds (quantity:3)?
Thanks for your help in advance!!! :)
Resistors if those LEDs are fo the locks on the top left, and that would be it unless you also want in-switch LEDs. If you want the LEDs to match the default brightness of the in-switch LEDs, you'll need 910 ohm resistors. Or, if you're not using the in-switch LEDs, you could just steal a couple from switch resistor spots for your lock LEDs.
Post by: LDobler on Wed, 28 December 2016, 15:11:43
Hello, I'm going to assemble my B-stock kit soon and have a question: What do I need besides cables, soldering equipment, stabs, switches, keycaps and 1.8mm leds (quantity:3)?
Thanks for your help in advance!!! :)
Resistors if those LEDs are fo the locks on the top left, and that would be it unless you also want in-switch LEDs. If you want the LEDs to match the default brightness of the in-switch LEDs, you'll need 910 ohm resistors. Or, if you're not using the in-switch LEDs, you could just steal a couple from switch resistor spots for your lock LEDs.
Yes those are for the 3 lock leds! I think I will get those 3 extra 910 Ohm resistors just in case I want to install some in-switch leds.
Thanks a lot for the quick reply mate! :thumb:
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 28 December 2016, 15:15:17
Hello, I'm going to assemble my B-stock kit soon and have a question: What do I need besides cables, soldering equipment, stabs, switches, keycaps and 1.8mm leds (quantity:3)?
Thanks for your help in advance!!! :)
Resistors if those LEDs are fo the locks on the top left, and that would be it unless you also want in-switch LEDs. If you want the LEDs to match the default brightness of the in-switch LEDs, you'll need 910 ohm resistors. Or, if you're not using the in-switch LEDs, you could just steal a couple from switch resistor spots for your lock LEDs.
Yes those are for the 3 lock leds! I think I will get those 3 extra 910 Ohm resistors just in case I want to install some in-switch leds.
Thanks a lot for the quick reply mate! :thumb:
No problem! Glad to help!
Post by: MajorKoos on Wed, 28 December 2016, 15:45:56
Hello, I'm going to assemble my B-stock kit soon and have a question: What do I need besides cables, soldering equipment, stabs, switches, keycaps and 1.8mm leds (quantity:3)?
Thanks for your help in advance!!! :)
Some lube/grease for the stabs and, depending on your switch of choice, some o-rings.
If your OCD level is high enough, lube and sticker your switches too.
Perhaps a different SATA cable as well. I got one of these : http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=445
Finally, don't forget about a custom sheathed USB cable to go with your chosen theme :)
Post by: LDobler on Wed, 28 December 2016, 16:22:11
Hello, I'm going to assemble my B-stock kit soon and have a question: What do I need besides cables, soldering equipment, stabs, switches, keycaps and 1.8mm leds (quantity:3)?
Thanks for your help in advance!!! :)
Some lube/grease for the stabs and, depending on your switch of choice, some o-rings.
If your OCD level is high enough, lube and sticker your switches too.
Perhaps a different SATA cable as well. I got one of these : http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=445
Finally, don't forget about a custom sheathed USB cable to go with your chosen theme :)
Thanks for your reply! ;D
What lube is used for switches and what grease is used for the stabs? Also where can I buy some? :confused:
Thinking about getting a custom sheathed SATA cable from PexonPCs...
Post by: MajorKoos on Wed, 28 December 2016, 16:54:48
Hello, I'm going to assemble my B-stock kit soon and have a question: What do I need besides cables, soldering equipment, stabs, switches, keycaps and 1.8mm leds (quantity:3)?
Thanks for your help in advance!!! :)
Some lube/grease for the stabs and, depending on your switch of choice, some o-rings.
If your OCD level is high enough, lube and sticker your switches too.
Perhaps a different SATA cable as well. I got one of these : http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=445
Finally, don't forget about a custom sheathed USB cable to go with your chosen theme :)
Thanks for your reply! ;D
What lube is used for switches and what grease is used for the stabs? Also where can I buy some? :confused:
Thinking about getting a custom sheathed SATA cable from PexonPCs...
I just use PTFE grease for my stabilizers. For the switches I use the same stuff I use on the chain of my mountain bike.
I think the main thing to watch out for is the solvent in the lube/grease so it doesn't dissolve any of the plastics.
Post by: LDobler on Wed, 28 December 2016, 17:17:28
Hello, I'm going to assemble my B-stock kit soon and have a question: What do I need besides cables, soldering equipment, stabs, switches, keycaps and 1.8mm leds (quantity:3)?
Thanks for your help in advance!!! :)
Some lube/grease for the stabs and, depending on your switch of choice, some o-rings.
If your OCD level is high enough, lube and sticker your switches too.
Perhaps a different SATA cable as well. I got one of these : http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=445
Finally, don't forget about a custom sheathed USB cable to go with your chosen theme :)
Thanks for your reply! ;D
What lube is used for switches and what grease is used for the stabs? Also where can I buy some? :confused:
Thinking about getting a custom sheathed SATA cable from PexonPCs...
I just use PTFE grease for my stabilizers. For the switches I use the same stuff I use on the chain of my mountain bike.
I think the main thing to watch out for is the solvent in the lube/grease so it doesn't dissolve any of the plastics.
Thanks, I will keep that in mind! :thumb:
So looking forward to this, just waiting for my switches to finally ship :D
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 29 December 2016, 10:42:10
Post by: exitfire401 on Thu, 29 December 2016, 10:58:50
did anyone have a suggestion for mounting tape for the badge plates?
I just used a cheap 3m double-sided my wife picked up from a craft store for photos. It's working great so far and I can't even move the plates.
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 29 December 2016, 11:01:31
Post by: exitfire401 on Thu, 29 December 2016, 11:03:17
did anyone have a suggestion for mounting tape for the badge plates?
I just used a cheap 3m double-sided my wife picked up from a craft store for photos. It's working great so far and I can't even move the plates.
like from hobby lobby or AC Moore? I should check there, had zero luck at walmart, lowes, home depot. Stuff was too thick.
Uhh...pretty sure it was from Joann's, but don't quote me on that.
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 29 December 2016, 11:06:57
Post by: exitfire401 on Thu, 29 December 2016, 11:07:34
did anyone have a suggestion for mounting tape for the badge plates?
I just used a cheap 3m double-sided my wife picked up from a craft store for photos. It's working great so far and I can't even move the plates.
like from hobby lobby or AC Moore? I should check there, had zero luck at walmart, lowes, home depot. Stuff was too thick.
Uhh...pretty sure it was from Joann's, but don't quote me on that.
we got those too. Thanks
NP!
Post by: Vypr on Fri, 30 December 2016, 23:39:42
I went with a very non-standard layout of a 1.5u backspace above the Enter key, so finding keycaps is going to be a challenge (but I can't go back after using the TrueFox whitefox layout)
I installed mine with 62g Zealios, Zeal's transparent screw in stabs with gold wire, and zealencios
(http://i.imgur.com/hnJEbmb.jpg)
Assembling the tenting kit was much easier once I laid out all the parts.
(http://i.imgur.com/Nzeql5q.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/gjWDbCf.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/2unY02N.jpg)
Cleaning all the flux from the board after soldering switches and LEDs, also installed the lock LED indicators (num lock = blue, caps lock = green, scroll lock = red)
(http://i.imgur.com/On6Yqra.jpg)
Testing the LEDs
(http://i.imgur.com/xo5GQXA.jpg)
Installing the Zealencios
(http://i.imgur.com/mLkzzz1.jpg)
Next step for me will be to order a replacement custom sleeved mini USB-b cable, sleeved SATA cable, and keycaps (I wasn't very satisfied with the coloring on the keycaps provided by Massdrop).
Thanks Zefyr for putting together such a great kit.
(Also thank you Zeal if you happen to come across this thread as well)
Post by: KetchyKech on Fri, 30 December 2016, 23:55:10
Finally got around to building mine (finally have time off from work, my zeal parts came in), though spread through 2 days cause I'd have to go out every once in awhile. I ended up installing the switches on the morning of the first day I started the project, built the tenting kit on the first night, then soldered and final assembly on the 2nd day.
I went with a very non-standard layout of a 1.5u backspace above the Enter key, so finding keycaps is going to be a challenge (but I can't go back after using the TrueFox whitefox layout)
I installed mine with 62g Zealios, Zeal's transparent screw in stabs with gold wire, and zealenciosShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/hnJEbmb.jpg)
Assembling the tenting kit was much easier once I laid out all the parts.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Nzeql5q.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gjWDbCf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2unY02N.jpg)
Cleaning all the flux from the board after soldering switches and LEDs, also installed the lock LED indicators (num lock = blue, caps lock = green, scroll lock = red)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/On6Yqra.jpg)
Testing the LEDsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/xo5GQXA.jpg)
Installing the ZealenciosShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/mLkzzz1.jpg)
Next step for me will be to order a replacement custom sleeved mini USB-b cable, sleeved SATA cable, and keycaps (I wasn't very satisfied with the coloring on the keycaps provided by Massdrop).
Thanks Zefyr for putting together such a great kit.
(Also thank you Zeal if you happen to come across this thread as well)
Dude, awesome little build log you provided here.
Ppl don't understand how helpful the little tips are for others when they post them!! So thank you!
enjoy it!
Post by: clappingcactus on Sat, 31 December 2016, 08:04:02
Post by: Vypr on Sat, 31 December 2016, 08:38:22
Beautiful work. You should check the LED on your X key. It looks like it's dead. :(
ah good catch, I completely missed that, I'll have to check on it, thanks
Finally got around to building mine (finally have time off from work, my zeal parts came in), though spread through 2 days cause I'd have to go out every once in awhile. I ended up installing the switches on the morning of the first day I started the project, built the tenting kit on the first night, then soldered and final assembly on the 2nd day.
I went with a very non-standard layout of a 1.5u backspace above the Enter key, so finding keycaps is going to be a challenge (but I can't go back after using the TrueFox whitefox layout)
I installed mine with 62g Zealios, Zeal's transparent screw in stabs with gold wire, and zealenciosShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/hnJEbmb.jpg)
Assembling the tenting kit was much easier once I laid out all the parts.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Nzeql5q.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gjWDbCf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2unY02N.jpg)
Cleaning all the flux from the board after soldering switches and LEDs, also installed the lock LED indicators (num lock = blue, caps lock = green, scroll lock = red)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/On6Yqra.jpg)
Testing the LEDsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/xo5GQXA.jpg)
Installing the ZealenciosShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/mLkzzz1.jpg)
Next step for me will be to order a replacement custom sleeved mini USB-b cable, sleeved SATA cable, and keycaps (I wasn't very satisfied with the coloring on the keycaps provided by Massdrop).
Thanks Zefyr for putting together such a great kit.
(Also thank you Zeal if you happen to come across this thread as well)
Dude, awesome little build log you provided here.
Ppl don't understand how helpful the little tips are for others when they post them!! So thank you!
enjoy it!
Thanks :)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sat, 31 December 2016, 12:02:15
Finally got around to building mine (finally have time off from work, my zeal parts came in), though spread through 2 days cause I'd have to go out every once in awhile. I ended up installing the switches on the morning of the first day I started the project, built the tenting kit on the first night, then soldered and final assembly on the 2nd day.
I went with a very non-standard layout of a 1.5u backspace above the Enter key, so finding keycaps is going to be a challenge (but I can't go back after using the TrueFox whitefox layout)
I installed mine with 62g Zealios, Zeal's transparent screw in stabs with gold wire, and zealenciosShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/hnJEbmb.jpg)
Assembling the tenting kit was much easier once I laid out all the parts.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Nzeql5q.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gjWDbCf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2unY02N.jpg)
Cleaning all the flux from the board after soldering switches and LEDs, also installed the lock LED indicators (num lock = blue, caps lock = green, scroll lock = red)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/On6Yqra.jpg)
Testing the LEDsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/xo5GQXA.jpg)
Installing the ZealenciosShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/mLkzzz1.jpg)
Next step for me will be to order a replacement custom sleeved mini USB-b cable, sleeved SATA cable, and keycaps (I wasn't very satisfied with the coloring on the keycaps provided by Massdrop).
Thanks Zefyr for putting together such a great kit.
(Also thank you Zeal if you happen to come across this thread as well)
Such a beautiful build man! Really cool to see it documented like this.
Post by: Gatix on Sat, 31 December 2016, 14:03:14
Post by: aaron6301 on Sat, 31 December 2016, 14:06:42
Is there anything else you need to do to make the lock indicator LEDs to work? Mine doesn't, I'm afraid I got the polarity reversed..The polarity of the resistors dont matter. There are two pads that you have to bridge for each indicator.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk
Post by: Vypr on Sat, 31 December 2016, 14:33:03
ThanksFinally got around to building mine (finally have time off from work, my zeal parts came in), though spread through 2 days cause I'd have to go out every once in awhile. I ended up installing the switches on the morning of the first day I started the project, built the tenting kit on the first night, then soldered and final assembly on the 2nd day.
I went with a very non-standard layout of a 1.5u backspace above the Enter key, so finding keycaps is going to be a challenge (but I can't go back after using the TrueFox whitefox layout)
I installed mine with 62g Zealios, Zeal's transparent screw in stabs with gold wire, and zealenciosShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/hnJEbmb.jpg)
Assembling the tenting kit was much easier once I laid out all the parts.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Nzeql5q.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gjWDbCf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2unY02N.jpg)
Cleaning all the flux from the board after soldering switches and LEDs, also installed the lock LED indicators (num lock = blue, caps lock = green, scroll lock = red)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/On6Yqra.jpg)
Testing the LEDsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/xo5GQXA.jpg)
Installing the ZealenciosShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/mLkzzz1.jpg)
Next step for me will be to order a replacement custom sleeved mini USB-b cable, sleeved SATA cable, and keycaps (I wasn't very satisfied with the coloring on the keycaps provided by Massdrop).
Thanks Zefyr for putting together such a great kit.
(Also thank you Zeal if you happen to come across this thread as well)
Such a beautiful build man! Really cool to see it documented like this.
I have the pads shorted for full led on mine and on the configuration app I set the Num, Caps, and Scroll Lock indicators to be indicators if that makes senseIs there anything else you need to do to make the lock indicator LEDs to work? Mine doesn't, I'm afraid I got the polarity reversed..The polarity of the resistors dont matter. There are two pads that you have to bridge for each indicator.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: FrostyToast on Sat, 31 December 2016, 23:08:56
Someone double check for me since that's my first time touching cad.
Post by: Gatix on Sun, 01 January 2017, 03:29:13
Is there anything else you need to do to make the lock indicator LEDs to work? Mine doesn't, I'm afraid I got the polarity reversed..The polarity of the resistors dont matter. There are two pads that you have to bridge for each indicator.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk
I see. Thank you!
Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 01 January 2017, 11:56:35
Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 01 January 2017, 13:06:11
Post by: Vypr on Sun, 01 January 2017, 14:02:26
someone help me pleaseI'm not sure I'll be able to help, but do you have a pic of your board and the soldering so we can take a look? When you bridged the indicator points, which points did you bridge?
I reflowed everything, and now all the lock leds are flashing? what does this mean
Beautiful work. You should check the LED on your X key. It looks like it's dead. :(
ah good catch, I completely missed that, I'll have to check on it, thanks
Unfortunately, I wasn't able to fix this. I was able to remove the dead LED, but some solder got stuck in one of the LED holes on the switch side and I've been unable to open the switch up since the plate is so tight. For now, I've left the 'x' key without a LED.
Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 01 January 2017, 14:19:55
Post by: Vypr on Sun, 01 January 2017, 14:41:10
was a firmware issue held down windows key and flashed from my other veas downloaded firmware works
cool, glad to hear everything is fine, congrats :)
Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 01 January 2017, 14:51:47
Post by: alienman82 on Sun, 01 January 2017, 17:48:50
Post by: Vypr on Sun, 01 January 2017, 18:27:15
here is it! please enjoy!
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5lhzxk/skcm_brown_alps_vea_build_mont_blanc_level/
:eek: Nice work man, it looks amazing :thumb:
Post by: zefyr on Sun, 01 January 2017, 23:52:22
was a firmware issue held down windows key and flashed from my other veas downloaded firmware works
cool, glad to hear everything is fine, congrats :)
I did reflow all the IC's and connectors two. this B stock PCB looked a bit shoddy. but thank you, I will post a build log soon. It's very special.
Ah, I was somewhere else for a while. Glad you found fixup.
And PCB is exactly same with others, the only thing different in B-stock is aluminium armor parts.
PC, PCB, Plates, all same with original mass-dropped version.
Post by: exitfire401 on Sun, 01 January 2017, 23:55:08
Post by: zefyr on Mon, 02 January 2017, 02:11:02
here is it! please enjoy!
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5lhzxk/skcm_brown_alps_vea_build_mont_blanc_level/
Love it. Just Love it.
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 02 January 2017, 10:28:59
Post by: KetchyKech on Mon, 02 January 2017, 10:52:22
here is it! please enjoy!
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5lhzxk/skcm_brown_alps_vea_build_mont_blanc_level/
simply amazing.
I'll surely go the lasergist route when I build mine -- and reference your build log heavily!!
Thanks for sharing, congrats!! :cool:
Post by: Vypr on Mon, 02 January 2017, 11:18:45
Beautiful work. You should check the LED on your X key. It looks like it's dead. :(
ah good catch, I completely missed that, I'll have to check on it, thanks
Unfortunately, I wasn't able to fix this. I was able to remove the dead LED, but some solder got stuck in one of the LED holes on the switch side and I've been unable to open the switch up since the plate is so tight. For now, I've left the 'x' key without a LED.
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(http://i.imgur.com/6KHyryv.jpg)
All fixed
Post by: Vypr on Mon, 02 January 2017, 18:58:35
I ended up slapping on a set of GeekKeys Blank PBT keycaps I had lying around on because I wanted to use this so bad. Although it kind of works out since the blank 2.75 shift key is perfect for the right space bar.
I have this same setup at work but with an Ergodox and occasionally I find myself trying to use my thumbs on a non-existent Ergodox thumb cluster :-[ :))
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Mon, 02 January 2017, 19:23:32
here is it! please enjoy!
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5lhzxk/skcm_brown_alps_vea_build_mont_blanc_level/
holy.. it's amazing. i didn't know if ve.a can also use ALPS switch..
that's probably the first ALPS Build in the world, congrats!
might as well post my end-game here lol.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5l1qw4/photos_my_christmas_gift_finally_arrived/
Post by: clappingcactus on Mon, 02 January 2017, 19:51:07
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/K4KQ4Yu.jpg)
I ended up slapping on a set of GeekKeys Blank PBT keycaps I had lying around on because I wanted to use this so bad. Although it kind of works out since the blank 2.75 shift key is perfect for the right space bar.
I have this same setup at work but with an Ergodox and occasionally I find myself trying to use my thumbs on a non-existent Ergodox thumb cluster :-[ :))
Beautiful and congrats on the fix! G900 master-race! *hi-five*
Post by: Vypr on Mon, 02 January 2017, 19:53:46
You're all making me jealous. :PThanks and *hi-five* :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/K4KQ4Yu.jpg)
I ended up slapping on a set of GeekKeys Blank PBT keycaps I had lying around on because I wanted to use this so bad. Although it kind of works out since the blank 2.75 shift key is perfect for the right space bar.
I have this same setup at work but with an Ergodox and occasionally I find myself trying to use my thumbs on a non-existent Ergodox thumb cluster :-[ :))
Beautiful and congrats on the fix! G900 master-race! *hi-five*
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Mon, 02 January 2017, 20:19:59
You're all making me jealous. :PShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/K4KQ4Yu.jpg)
I ended up slapping on a set of GeekKeys Blank PBT keycaps I had lying around on because I wanted to use this so bad. Although it kind of works out since the blank 2.75 shift key is perfect for the right space bar.
I have this same setup at work but with an Ergodox and occasionally I find myself trying to use my thumbs on a non-existent Ergodox thumb cluster :-[ :))
Beautiful and congrats on the fix! G900 master-race! *hi-five*
You're all making me jealous. :PThanks and *hi-five* :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/K4KQ4Yu.jpg)
I ended up slapping on a set of GeekKeys Blank PBT keycaps I had lying around on because I wanted to use this so bad. Although it kind of works out since the blank 2.75 shift key is perfect for the right space bar.
I have this same setup at work but with an Ergodox and occasionally I find myself trying to use my thumbs on a non-existent Ergodox thumb cluster :-[ :))
Beautiful and congrats on the fix! G900 master-race! *hi-five*
wait.. G900 as well? we're all gentlemen with fine taste indeed :thumb:
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Tue, 03 January 2017, 18:19:29
(http://i.imgur.com/T2Ri9UR.jpg)
Post by: alienman82 on Tue, 03 January 2017, 19:20:53
Post by: thatmiddleway on Wed, 04 January 2017, 10:07:12
Post by: KetchyKech on Wed, 04 January 2017, 10:15:05
Pardon my ignorance, but is there a place one can purchase a new VE.A keyboard and/or kit?
Unfortunately, you can only hope to score one on /r/mechmarket for now --
The main GB was ran on Massdrop, which has since ended
&
B-stock units (extras) were all sold off shortly after the GB.
Zefyr has alluded to the possibility that more keyboards will be coming from oddforge, but only time will tell what
they have in store!
Goodluck.
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 04 January 2017, 11:48:34
just finished mine over the long weekend. probably my most colorful buildShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/T2Ri9UR.jpg)
VE.A envy here.
The Stormtrooper matches well with the GMK CMYK mods for the matching black legends - never understand why some would like to match GMK Dolch kit with CMYK mods or anything with black legends.
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Wed, 04 January 2017, 12:29:47
just finished mine over the long weekend. probably my most colorful buildShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/T2Ri9UR.jpg)
VE.A envy here.
The Stormtrooper matches well with the GMK CMYK mods for the matching black legends - never understand why some would like to match GMK Dolch kit with CMYK mods or anything with black legends.
thanks, that is exactly why i got them. was looking for a set for years until ghost ran a gb last year. you can't quite tell, but the arrows & esc are from skidata. not many other colorful sets out there with black legends...
Post by: thatmiddleway on Wed, 04 January 2017, 13:38:17
Pardon my ignorance, but is there a place one can purchase a new VE.A keyboard and/or kit?
Unfortunately, you can only hope to score one on /r/mechmarket for now --
The main GB was ran on Massdrop, which has since ended
&
B-stock units (extras) were all sold off shortly after the GB.
Zefyr has alluded to the possibility that more keyboards will be coming from oddforge, but only time will tell what
they have in store!
Goodluck.
Ah, thanks for the info. I'll keep my eyes on oddforge and massdrop.
Post by: daviswalkers on Fri, 06 January 2017, 08:11:35
Only issues are that I messed up on the left bottom row so the keys don't fit perfectly (but I use caps for ctrl and rarely press windows so it wont effect typing just A E S T H E T I C) and I haven't bought resistors for the lock keys, speaking of which, I'm having a hard time understanding the guide on how to make the lock keys full on, can anyone explain it in a more simple way, like what exactly do I need to do to get my lock keys working and always on?
I don't have a fancy camera or lighting so I only really took the one picture, feel free to ask for more/ask questions!
(http://i.imgur.com/ag8uqTC.jpg)
- Black VE.A
- R4 78g Zealio Switches
- Zealencio Silencing Clips
- Zeal Transparent Screw-in Stabs
- GMK Hyperfuse Keyset
- Blue LEDs
- Homemade Sleeved SATA Cable (will be sleeving USB the same once parts come in)
Post by: exitfire401 on Fri, 06 January 2017, 08:19:57
Finally finished building mine <3 <3 <3 Completely in love with it, and the zealio's/zealencio combo literally the best typing experience I've ever had by far! Wish I had picked up two now, one for home, one for work!
Only issues are that I messed up on the left bottom row so the keys don't fit perfectly (but I use caps for ctrl and rarely press windows so it wont effect typing just A E S T H E T I C) and I haven't bought resistors for the lock keys, speaking of which, I'm having a hard time understanding the guide on how to make the lock keys full on, can anyone explain it in a more simple way, like what exactly do I need to do to get my lock keys working and always on?
I don't have a fancy camera or lighting so I only really took the one picture, feel free to ask for more/ask questions!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ag8uqTC.jpg)
From the assembly guide:
Quote
3. Select Lock LED Mode
Near Locks switches, you can find F[][][]L pattern. This is for LED mode selection.
When F[][] pattern is shorted(connected), LED will act as Full-LED mode.
When [][]L pattern is shorted(connected), LED will act as Lock-LED mode.
So, when you're looking at the leads, you see F[][][]L
For the full LEDs like you're asking, you want to bridge the first two with solder F[X][X][]L
I use an LED leg scrap to do mine and soldered at both ends to make it look a little cleaner.
Also, right there with you....really wish I had bought a second for work.
Post by: daviswalkers on Fri, 06 January 2017, 08:34:47
Finally finished building mine <3 <3 <3 Completely in love with it, and the zealio's/zealencio combo literally the best typing experience I've ever had by far! Wish I had picked up two now, one for home, one for work!
Only issues are that I messed up on the left bottom row so the keys don't fit perfectly (but I use caps for ctrl and rarely press windows so it wont effect typing just A E S T H E T I C) and I haven't bought resistors for the lock keys, speaking of which, I'm having a hard time understanding the guide on how to make the lock keys full on, can anyone explain it in a more simple way, like what exactly do I need to do to get my lock keys working and always on?
I don't have a fancy camera or lighting so I only really took the one picture, feel free to ask for more/ask questions!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ag8uqTC.jpg)
- Black VE.A
- R4 78g Zealio Switches
- Zealencio Silencing Clips
- Zeal Transparent Screw-in Stabs
- GMK Hyperfuse Keyset
- Blue LEDs
- Homemade Sleeved SATA Cable (will be sleeving USB the same once parts come in)
From the assembly guide:Quote3. Select Lock LED Mode
Near Locks switches, you can find F[][][]L pattern. This is for LED mode selection.
When F[][] pattern is shorted(connected), LED will act as Full-LED mode.
When [][]L pattern is shorted(connected), LED will act as Lock-LED mode.
So, when you're looking at the leads, you see F[][][]L
For the full LEDs like you're asking, you want to bridge the first two with solder F[X][X][]L
I use an LED leg scrap to do mine and soldered at both ends to make it look a little cleaner.
Also, right there with you....really wish I had bought a second for work.
probably going to sound dumb here but don't want to mess anything up, when you say bridge the first two (in your case) you're saying you soldered a bit of LED leg scrap to the first two pads right? I'll give that a shot once I find somewhere that I can buy 3 resistors for the board!
Post by: exitfire401 on Fri, 06 January 2017, 08:37:20
Finally finished building mine <3 <3 <3 Completely in love with it, and the zealio's/zealencio combo literally the best typing experience I've ever had by far! Wish I had picked up two now, one for home, one for work!
Only issues are that I messed up on the left bottom row so the keys don't fit perfectly (but I use caps for ctrl and rarely press windows so it wont effect typing just A E S T H E T I C) and I haven't bought resistors for the lock keys, speaking of which, I'm having a hard time understanding the guide on how to make the lock keys full on, can anyone explain it in a more simple way, like what exactly do I need to do to get my lock keys working and always on?
I don't have a fancy camera or lighting so I only really took the one picture, feel free to ask for more/ask questions!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ag8uqTC.jpg)
- Black VE.A
- R4 78g Zealio Switches
- Zealencio Silencing Clips
- Zeal Transparent Screw-in Stabs
- GMK Hyperfuse Keyset
- Blue LEDs
- Homemade Sleeved SATA Cable (will be sleeving USB the same once parts come in)
From the assembly guide:Quote3. Select Lock LED Mode
Near Locks switches, you can find F[][][]L pattern. This is for LED mode selection.
When F[][] pattern is shorted(connected), LED will act as Full-LED mode.
When [][]L pattern is shorted(connected), LED will act as Lock-LED mode.
So, when you're looking at the leads, you see F[][][]L
For the full LEDs like you're asking, you want to bridge the first two with solder F[X][X][]L
I use an LED leg scrap to do mine and soldered at both ends to make it look a little cleaner.
Also, right there with you....really wish I had bought a second for work.
probably going to sound dumb here but don't want to mess anything up, when you say bridge the first two (in your case) you're saying you soldered a bit of LED leg scrap to the first two pads right? I'll give that a shot once I find somewhere that I can buy 3 resistors for the board!
Not dumb at all. You paid a lot for the kit and you want to be safe, I understand. Correct. You could just solder between the two, but I didn't want to risk damaging the PCB with too much heat, that's why I used the LED leg.
Post by: daviswalkers on Fri, 06 January 2017, 09:09:22
Not dumb at all. You paid a lot for the kit and you want to be safe, I understand. Correct. You could just solder between the two, but I didn't want to risk damaging the PCB with too much heat, that's why I used the LED leg.
Thanks for the help :)
Post by: JDragon on Fri, 06 January 2017, 13:33:51
Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 06 January 2017, 13:36:17
Post by: Slash Emperor on Fri, 06 January 2017, 14:27:22
Sorry if I missed this, but couldn't find it in the thread or the documentation online - what type of aluminum alloy is used in the case?
probably 6061
Yep.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79318.msg2037509#msg2037509
Post by: JDragon on Sat, 07 January 2017, 03:31:00
Post by: zefyr on Sun, 08 January 2017, 20:48:06
Not dumb at all. You paid a lot for the kit and you want to be safe, I understand. Correct. You could just solder between the two, but I didn't want to risk damaging the PCB with too much heat, that's why I used the LED leg.
Thanks for the help :)
Thanks guys!
Ah, it was A long and lazy weekend :) We all had some schedules.
Thanks guys answering questions behalf of oddforge team.
Really appreciated for it!
Post by: exitfire401 on Sun, 08 January 2017, 21:04:38
Not dumb at all. You paid a lot for the kit and you want to be safe, I understand. Correct. You could just solder between the two, but I didn't want to risk damaging the PCB with too much heat, that's why I used the LED leg.
Thanks for the help :)Thanks guys!
Ah, it was A long and lazy weekend :) We all had some schedules.
Thanks guys answering questions behalf of oddforge team.
Really appreciated for it!
Everyone needs time away. Hope it was enjoyable/eventful!
Post by: clappingcactus on Thu, 12 January 2017, 22:30:45
(http://i.imgur.com/gdEwGYE.jpg)
It's a process ... but I'm almost there ... :p
Post by: N35 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 03:10:02
But this keyboard, looks like exactly what I want, split, and supports iso layout.
Proiding the massdrop is done, how do I go about getting me one of these?
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 13 January 2017, 06:26:21
2. Make sure you have enough money when it happens
Post by: N35 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 08:59:08
Theres not the option of generating the PCB and related things myself?
Provided it is even a possibilty.
Alternatively, where are the MD and GB announced? here? id like to not have to just keep monitoring for waiting for this particular keyboard.
Guess Ill have to look for something else as well.
Post by: RobotMalcolmX on Fri, 13 January 2017, 09:10:29
Fair enough.
Theres not the option of generating the PCB and related things myself?
Provided it is even a possibilty.
Alternatively, where are the MD and GB announced? here? id like to not have to just keep monitoring for waiting for this particular keyboard.
Guess Ill have to look for something else as well.
Honestly, your best bet if you want it "soon" is to look on r/mm or post in the classifieds here. Expect to pay a decent chunk of money.
Post by: jal on Fri, 13 January 2017, 09:50:09
Fair enough.
Theres not the option of generating the PCB and related things myself?
I think you might be able to - not sure if the case design files have been released or not. (I'm curious if they're out there, too - I have a VE.A, and just love looking at other's designs.)
Alternatively, where are the MD and GB announced? here? id like to not have to just keep monitoring for waiting for this particular keyboard.
Guess Ill have to look for something else as well.
The Massdrop sale was here: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/17533 . Don't know if will be another one; Zefyr seemed a bit burned-out after the first one, and said a while back that he's working on new stuff.
Post by: krisst on Fri, 13 January 2017, 11:46:23
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2xLpWVg.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gdEwGYE.jpg)
It's a process ... but I'm almost there ... :p
Looking good! I ordered some Holtite from one of the GB that "Keys of kings" did last Nov. After sending me a shipping notice. He cancelled my order and after a month of waiting, I went back to the site to check on the progress because I have not received the package. I notice my order was being refunded. I emailed the guy asking about it, he then refunded me. Being very vague about the reason why he cancelled my order. Pretty shady if you ask me.
Too bad, if I were to order those hot swap holtite from the site myself, cost would be close to double the price of GB.
My VE.A still sitting there in pieces... Hopefully someone will organise another GB for holtites hot swap sockets sometime soon.
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 13 January 2017, 12:22:51
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2xLpWVg.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gdEwGYE.jpg)
It's a process ... but I'm almost there ... :p
Looking good! I ordered some Holtite from one of the GB that "Keys of kings" did last Nov. After sending me a shipping notice. He cancelled my order and after a month of waiting, I went back to the site to check on the progress because I have not received the package. I notice my order was being refunded. I emailed the guy asking about it, he then refunded me. Being very vague about the reason why he cancelled my order. Pretty shady if you ask me.
Too bad, if I were to order those hot swap holtite from the site myself, cost would be close to double the price of GB.
My VE.A still sitting there in pieces... Hopefully someone will organise another GB for holtites hot swap sockets sometime soon.
There's one Holtites GB going on right now, perhaps you can pm the OP of that thread.
I'm also aware of that VE.A has a good fit for this mod. But I perhaps want to go for an Alps VE.A build.
Post by: krisst on Fri, 13 January 2017, 12:49:40
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2xLpWVg.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gdEwGYE.jpg)
It's a process ... but I'm almost there ... :p
Looking good! I ordered some Holtite from one of the GB that "Keys of kings" did last Nov. After sending me a shipping notice. He cancelled my order and after a month of waiting, I went back to the site to check on the progress because I have not received the package. I notice my order was being refunded. I emailed the guy asking about it, he then refunded me. Being very vague about the reason why he cancelled my order. Pretty shady if you ask me.
Too bad, if I were to order those hot swap holtite from the site myself, cost would be close to double the price of GB.
My VE.A still sitting there in pieces... Hopefully someone will organise another GB for holtites hot swap sockets sometime soon.
There's one Holtites GB going on right now, perhaps you can pm the OP of that thread.
I'm also aware of that VE.A has a good fit for this mod. But I perhaps want to go for an Alps VE.A build.
Yup. I am aware of one GB going on now. It is only for EU.
An Alps build would be interesting. Have been using R1 Zealios for a while now. The wobble is... really horrible. Makes me want change over to topre. I heard R4 Zealios wobble less, that's not the point though. Previously bought R3 Zealios just for VE.A, am I suppose to throw them away and get latest revision just for the reduced wobble? This is one of the reason why I was hoping to use hot swap socket on VE.A, to be able to change out switches easily.
Alps might wobble less than MX stem too, not sure about that. Can consider Alps if so.
Post by: N35 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 13:19:49
Not sure about caps, or switches, but if I can get the rest First then I assume I can buy switches and caps afterwards, and not only from the gb?
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 13 January 2017, 13:24:55
I'm located in the EU so I'm pretty interested in this..
Not sure about caps, or switches, but if I can get the rest First then I assume I can buy switches and caps afterwards, and not only from the gb?
VE.A is a kit, it doesn't come with switches or caps.
There's no GB at the moment unfortunately.
Post by: JDragon on Fri, 13 January 2017, 13:29:33
Post by: N35 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 13:38:16
I'm located in the EU so I'm pretty interested in this..
Not sure about caps, or switches, but if I can get the rest First then I assume I can buy switches and caps afterwards, and not only from the gb?
VE.A is a kit, it doesn't come with switches or caps.
There's no GB at the moment unfortunately.
Ah I understood it from zephyr that there was one running for EU.
Post by: MandrewDavis on Fri, 13 January 2017, 13:47:28
For anyone doing the Holtite mod, how did you handle keys such as Caps Lock or some of the bottom row keys where the sockets won't fit - just solder those specific switches in?
I saw several people use plain ol' SIP sockets for the lock LEDs.
Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 13:51:30
Post by: JDragon on Fri, 13 January 2017, 16:44:04
For anyone doing the Holtite mod, how did you handle keys such as Caps Lock or some of the bottom row keys where the sockets won't fit - just solder those specific switches in?
I saw several people use plain ol' SIP sockets for the lock LEDs.
Ah I meant the actual keys themselves - the hole in the PCB seems to be large enough to accommodate the switch pin but not a holtite socket, unless I'm doing something wrong?
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Fri, 13 January 2017, 17:25:28
For anyone doing the Holtite mod, how did you handle keys such as Caps Lock or some of the bottom row keys where the sockets won't fit - just solder those specific switches in?
I saw several people use plain ol' SIP sockets for the lock LEDs.
Ah I meant the actual keys themselves - the hole in the PCB seems to be large enough to accommodate the switch pin but not a holtite socket, unless I'm doing something wrong?
nope, you are correct. depending on the layout you have chosen, there are a couple switch leg holes that are slender, and oval-shaped. no way you are getting a holtite in there. they will have to be soldered
Post by: ceflame on Fri, 13 January 2017, 17:33:03
I did the soldering iron method and it was a bit messy but it still worked.
Post by: JDragon on Fri, 13 January 2017, 18:31:13
Will just solder in those few switches, shouldn't be too much of a pain to desolder if I want to switch out the switches.
I'm currently looking into getting my B stock kit powder coated and was thinking about leaving the screws in so the threads don't get powder coated - anyone got any better ideas? Worried that the powder coating would fill in the screw heads causing me to be unable to remove them, so was going to put some tape over them but then the powder coating will miss some spots unless I get the tape over the screw heads exactly.
Post by: exitfire401 on Fri, 13 January 2017, 18:45:51
Thanks everyone!
Will just solder in those few switches, shouldn't be too much of a pain to desolder if I want to switch out the switches.
I'm currently looking into getting my B stock kit powder coated and was thinking about leaving the screws in so the threads don't get powder coated - anyone got any better ideas? Worried that the powder coating would fill in the screw heads causing me to be unable to remove them, so was going to put some tape over them but then the powder coating will miss some spots unless I get the tape over the screw heads exactly.
Powder coating will fill the threads, but any good powder coating place will cover the threads before spraying
Edit: A few of the places I know of use a low melting point wax. so while spraying, the threads are protected, and while it's baking, the wax leaves the threads
Post by: jal on Fri, 13 January 2017, 18:50:24
I'm currently looking into getting my B stock kit powder coated and was thinking about leaving the screws in so the threads don't get powder coated - anyone got any better ideas? Worried that the powder coating would fill in the screw heads causing me to be unable to remove them, so was going to put some tape over them but then the powder coating will miss some spots unless I get the tape over the screw heads exactly.
I've done some powder coating. Anyone competent will plug holes like that so isn't a problem.
If you do tape anything, you need to use thermal tape that can handle the temperatures - again, anyone who does this professionally should have it on hand. They may charge you a fee for masking, especially if it is fiddly.
You could always have it Cerakoted, too.
Edit: Beaten to the punch.
Post by: JDragon on Fri, 13 January 2017, 18:56:18
I'm currently looking into getting my B stock kit powder coated and was thinking about leaving the screws in so the threads don't get powder coated - anyone got any better ideas? Worried that the powder coating would fill in the screw heads causing me to be unable to remove them, so was going to put some tape over them but then the powder coating will miss some spots unless I get the tape over the screw heads exactly.
I've done some powder coating. Anyone competent will plug holes like that so isn't a problem.
If you do tape anything, you need to use thermal tape that can handle the temperatures - again, anyone who does this professionally should have it on hand. They may charge you a fee for masking, especially if it is fiddly.
You could always have it Cerakoted, too.
Edit: Beaten to the punch.
Thanks, I'm in the Bay Area also - do you have any recommendations for good places? The place I've been talking to at the moment seems sort of hesitant (and didn't even suggest plugs or anything, which I had to Google myself).
I also tried to look up the differences between powder coating and cerakoting and couldn't figure out if there's a strong reason to go one or the other for a keyboard that will see mainly desk use. Any expertise that you can offer there?
Really appreciate the help.
Post by: jal on Fri, 13 January 2017, 20:58:27
Thanks, I'm in the Bay Area also - do you have any recommendations for good places? The place I've been talking to at the moment seems sort of hesitant (and didn't even suggest plugs or anything, which I had to Google myself).
I actually tried two different local places, and was unhappy with both. There is an outfit in Oklahoma I used for kind of a hard, oddball job, and they were very good, but kind of expensive. Also, that was a few years ago, I don't know if things are the same with them. Let me know if you want a reference and I'll dig up the paperwork, I can't remember the name offhand.
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I also tried to look up the differences between powder coating and cerakoting and couldn't figure out if there's a strong reason to go one or the other for a keyboard that will see mainly desk use. Any expertise that you can offer there?
Really appreciate the help.
Cerakote is a ceramic coating. It is used frequently on guns. It is very hard and scratch/heat resistant - substantially harder than powder coating. It is also thinner - it is possible to coat threads, down to some tolerance I can't remember. It costs a fair amount more because it is proprietary, requires special equipment, etc.
My comment about that was a bit of a joke, if not funny. There's really no good reason to use it on a keyboard, in terms of what it is used for - if you're abusing your keyboard that much, there's something else wrong. But, if you like the look of it (it does look distinctive, depending on the color), go for it. Some shops out there also do really fancy stencils and whatnot with it. If you want to look at example fancy applications and don't mind looking at guns, see https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/gallery/ . Of course, you'll pay for fancy.
I'd offer to help, but I'm really not very good at powder coating because I hate doing it and the shop I do it at has a poor setup that sometimes causes botched jobs due to people opening the wrong door at the wrong time. And I would hate to do a crappy job on your VE.A.
Post by: JDragon on Fri, 13 January 2017, 21:32:01
Thanks, I'm in the Bay Area also - do you have any recommendations for good places? The place I've been talking to at the moment seems sort of hesitant (and didn't even suggest plugs or anything, which I had to Google myself).
I actually tried two different local places, and was unhappy with both. There is an outfit in Oklahoma I used for kind of a hard, oddball job, and they were very good, but kind of expensive. Also, that was a few years ago, I don't know if things are the same with them. Let me know if you want a reference and I'll dig up the paperwork, I can't remember the name offhand.
I also tried to look up the differences between powder coating and cerakoting and couldn't figure out if there's a strong reason to go one or the other for a keyboard that will see mainly desk use. Any expertise that you can offer there?
Really appreciate the help.
Cerakote is a ceramic coating. It is used frequently on guns. It is very hard and scratch/heat resistant - substantially harder than powder coating. It is also thinner - it is possible to coat threads, down to some tolerance I can't remember. It costs a fair amount more because it is proprietary, requires special equipment, etc.
My comment about that was a bit of a joke, if not funny. There's really no good reason to use it on a keyboard, in terms of what it is used for - if you're abusing your keyboard that much, there's something else wrong. But, if you like the look of it (it does look distinctive, depending on the color), go for it. Some shops out there also do really fancy stencils and whatnot with it. If you want to look at example fancy applications and don't mind looking at guns, see https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/gallery/ . Of course, you'll pay for fancy.
I'd offer to help, but I'm really not very good at powder coating because I hate doing it and the shop I do it at has a poor setup that sometimes causes botched jobs due to people opening the wrong door at the wrong time. And I would hate to do a crappy job on your VE.A.
Haha ok powder coating it is. Which were the two local places that didn't pass muster? Would like to avoid them to make sure my VE.A turns out nicely.
Post by: clappingcactus on Sat, 14 January 2017, 00:03:35
For anyone doing the Holtite mod, how did you handle keys such as Caps Lock or some of the bottom row keys where the sockets won't fit - just solder those specific switches in?
I literally threw a hotlite on the socket without doing anything. Works flawlessly on Caps Lock and backward slash. You don't even need to use a soldering iron to heat it into place. For bottom row keys where the sockets won't fit, the keyboard works without a second socket actually! Switches work directly in the provided horizontal pads!!
Post by: clappingcactus on Sat, 14 January 2017, 00:04:45
(http://i.imgur.com/BTtPIxn.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/gwK3s8c.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/aH56a11.jpg)
Taking it to a meetup on Sunday and will take better pictures in sunlight!
Post by: clappingcactus on Sat, 14 January 2017, 00:07:48
Post by: Gatix on Sat, 14 January 2017, 01:54:24
Done building!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/BTtPIxn.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gwK3s8c.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/aH56a11.jpg)
Taking it to a meetup on Sunday and will take better pictures in sunlight!
Nice build! Silver case with the Penumbra works perfectly!
I'm not much a fan of LEDs in general but I love the backlighting on this keyboard. Here's my VE.A with Carbon:
(http://i.imgur.com/OX8pMqp.jpg)
Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 14 January 2017, 09:50:26
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 16 January 2017, 15:49:56
Post by: litster on Mon, 16 January 2017, 17:57:58
I designed some wood stands if anyone is interested:
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/5odqm8/ic_wood_vea_wrist_wrests/
alienman82, please make it happen! I want 2!
Post by: MajorKoos on Mon, 16 January 2017, 20:08:18
Thanks, I'm in the Bay Area also - do you have any recommendations for good places? The place I've been talking to at the moment seems sort of hesitant (and didn't even suggest plugs or anything, which I had to Google myself).
I actually tried two different local places, and was unhappy with both. There is an outfit in Oklahoma I used for kind of a hard, oddball job, and they were very good, but kind of expensive. Also, that was a few years ago, I don't know if things are the same with them. Let me know if you want a reference and I'll dig up the paperwork, I can't remember the name offhand.
I also tried to look up the differences between powder coating and cerakoting and couldn't figure out if there's a strong reason to go one or the other for a keyboard that will see mainly desk use. Any expertise that you can offer there?
Really appreciate the help.
Cerakote is a ceramic coating. It is used frequently on guns. It is very hard and scratch/heat resistant - substantially harder than powder coating. It is also thinner - it is possible to coat threads, down to some tolerance I can't remember. It costs a fair amount more because it is proprietary, requires special equipment, etc.
My comment about that was a bit of a joke, if not funny. There's really no good reason to use it on a keyboard, in terms of what it is used for - if you're abusing your keyboard that much, there's something else wrong. But, if you like the look of it (it does look distinctive, depending on the color), go for it. Some shops out there also do really fancy stencils and whatnot with it. If you want to look at example fancy applications and don't mind looking at guns, see https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/gallery/ . Of course, you'll pay for fancy.
I'd offer to help, but I'm really not very good at powder coating because I hate doing it and the shop I do it at has a poor setup that sometimes causes botched jobs due to people opening the wrong door at the wrong time. And I would hate to do a crappy job on your VE.A.
Haha ok powder coating it is. Which were the two local places that didn't pass muster? Would like to avoid them to make sure my VE.A turns out nicely.
I've been on a similar quest in to find somewhere in the bay area to powder coat/re-anodize a couple of keyboards for me.
I'm keen to know how your search turns out.
Post by: zefyr on Mon, 16 January 2017, 22:18:47
I designed some wood stands if anyone is interested:
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/5odqm8/ic_wood_vea_wrist_wrests/
Man! This is cool!
Post by: JDragon on Tue, 17 January 2017, 13:59:07
Thanks, I'm in the Bay Area also - do you have any recommendations for good places? The place I've been talking to at the moment seems sort of hesitant (and didn't even suggest plugs or anything, which I had to Google myself).
I actually tried two different local places, and was unhappy with both. There is an outfit in Oklahoma I used for kind of a hard, oddball job, and they were very good, but kind of expensive. Also, that was a few years ago, I don't know if things are the same with them. Let me know if you want a reference and I'll dig up the paperwork, I can't remember the name offhand.
I also tried to look up the differences between powder coating and cerakoting and couldn't figure out if there's a strong reason to go one or the other for a keyboard that will see mainly desk use. Any expertise that you can offer there?
Really appreciate the help.
Cerakote is a ceramic coating. It is used frequently on guns. It is very hard and scratch/heat resistant - substantially harder than powder coating. It is also thinner - it is possible to coat threads, down to some tolerance I can't remember. It costs a fair amount more because it is proprietary, requires special equipment, etc.
My comment about that was a bit of a joke, if not funny. There's really no good reason to use it on a keyboard, in terms of what it is used for - if you're abusing your keyboard that much, there's something else wrong. But, if you like the look of it (it does look distinctive, depending on the color), go for it. Some shops out there also do really fancy stencils and whatnot with it. If you want to look at example fancy applications and don't mind looking at guns, see https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/gallery/ . Of course, you'll pay for fancy.
I'd offer to help, but I'm really not very good at powder coating because I hate doing it and the shop I do it at has a poor setup that sometimes causes botched jobs due to people opening the wrong door at the wrong time. And I would hate to do a crappy job on your VE.A.
Haha ok powder coating it is. Which were the two local places that didn't pass muster? Would like to avoid them to make sure my VE.A turns out nicely.
I've been on a similar quest in to find somewhere in the bay area to powder coat/re-anodize a couple of keyboards for me.
I'm keen to know how your search turns out.
The only place that's bothered to respond to me has been Leon's Powder Coating in Oakland/Santa Clara, and even then they don't seem too keen on helping. The search continues...
Post by: Gatix on Wed, 18 January 2017, 12:56:01
Done building!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/BTtPIxn.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gwK3s8c.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/aH56a11.jpg)
Taking it to a meetup on Sunday and will take better pictures in sunlight!
Nice build! Silver case with the Penumbra works perfectly!
I'm not much a fan of LEDs in general but I love the backlighting on this keyboard. Here's my VE.A with Carbon:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/OX8pMqp.jpg)
Just curious.
Do you use the left shift? Why not flip the fn key.
I don't flip at all, so I was wondering :D
I touch type so I use both left and right shift.
I actually have the fn flipped now so my thumb rests there. I had to flip it as it offsets my keypresses to the left which is so annoying. I guess because my hand pivots from my thumbs..
Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 18 January 2017, 18:00:12
Post by: Jedi on Wed, 18 January 2017, 20:41:33
Post by: clappingcactus on Wed, 18 January 2017, 22:18:54
I was thinking of maybe getting a custom brass or tungsten weight made for the keyboard and using it instead of the shine-through spacer.
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Thu, 19 January 2017, 01:40:46
Hey Zefyr, any chance you can share the Polycarbonate shape file with us?
I was thinking of maybe getting a custom brass or tungsten weight made for the keyboard and using it instead of the shine-through spacer.
this this this this this
Post by: MajorKoos on Tue, 31 January 2017, 12:57:13
Hey Zefyr, any chance you can share the Polycarbonate shape file with us?
I was thinking of maybe getting a custom brass or tungsten weight made for the keyboard and using it instead of the shine-through spacer.
this this this this this
I've managed to collect an extra PCB and STS plate along the way.
My hope is to make a case with a polycarb base - super bling.
Post by: clappingcactus on Tue, 31 January 2017, 13:11:45
Hey Zefyr, any chance you can share the Polycarbonate shape file with us?
I was thinking of maybe getting a custom brass or tungsten weight made for the keyboard and using it instead of the shine-through spacer.
this this this this this
I've managed to collect an extra PCB and STS plate along the way.
My hope is to make a case with a polycarb base - super bling.
Given the way it's assembled I'm not expecting a lot of light to get through! It might not be as bling-y as you think?
There's a 3D scanner that's open access in my city. Some time in the next month or so I'll go there to see if I can scan the polycarb insert accurately so that I could have a metal one milled.
Will report back with my findings.
Post by: MajorKoos on Tue, 31 January 2017, 14:39:06
Hey Zefyr, any chance you can share the Polycarbonate shape file with us?
I was thinking of maybe getting a custom brass or tungsten weight made for the keyboard and using it instead of the shine-through spacer.
this this this this this
I've managed to collect an extra PCB and STS plate along the way.
My hope is to make a case with a polycarb base - super bling.
Given the way it's assembled I'm not expecting a lot of light to get through! It might not be as bling-y as you think?
There's a 3D scanner that's open access in my city. Some time in the next month or so I'll go there to see if I can scan the polycarb insert accurately so that I could have a metal one milled.
Will report back with my findings.
Hey Zefyr, any chance you can share the Polycarbonate shape file with us?
I was thinking of maybe getting a custom brass or tungsten weight made for the keyboard and using it instead of the shine-through spacer.
this this this this this
I've managed to collect an extra PCB and STS plate along the way.
My hope is to make a case with a polycarb base - super bling.
Given the way it's assembled I'm not expecting a lot of light to get through! It might not be as bling-y as you think?
There's a 3D scanner that's open access in my city. Some time in the next month or so I'll go there to see if I can scan the polycarb insert accurately so that I could have a metal one milled.
Will report back with my findings.
This is my inspiration : http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=4037322&mid=board_Lsno50
It's just the bottom half of the case I want to do in all polycarb.
Post by: clappingcactus on Tue, 31 January 2017, 15:28:26
Post by: MajorKoos on Tue, 31 January 2017, 19:33:28
In which case you might want to do a polycarbonate insert/base in one piece!
Exactly what I'm after!
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Tue, 31 January 2017, 21:25:18
i'll be waiting for the update of this project!
Post by: MandrewDavis on Tue, 31 January 2017, 21:37:36
Post by: zefyr on Wed, 01 February 2017, 00:38:05
Hey Zefyr, any chance you can share the Polycarbonate shape file with us?
I was thinking of maybe getting a custom brass or tungsten weight made for the keyboard and using it instead of the shine-through spacer.
No chance.
Post by: swangful on Thu, 16 February 2017, 13:04:47
I just discovered this beauty.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 16 February 2017, 14:18:12
Will there be another drop for this keyboard? :D
I just discovered this beauty.
They are in process of working toward a second version, but I don't think there has been official word yet. Keep your eyes peeled, details will be posted here when they are available!
Post by: clappingcactus on Mon, 27 February 2017, 21:17:46
Post by: ReadmeDotTxt on Wed, 01 March 2017, 04:08:54
Thanks, I'm in the Bay Area also - do you have any recommendations for good places? The place I've been talking to at the moment seems sort of hesitant (and didn't even suggest plugs or anything, which I had to Google myself).
I actually tried two different local places, and was unhappy with both. There is an outfit in Oklahoma I used for kind of a hard, oddball job, and they were very good, but kind of expensive. Also, that was a few years ago, I don't know if things are the same with them. Let me know if you want a reference and I'll dig up the paperwork, I can't remember the name offhand.
I also tried to look up the differences between powder coating and cerakoting and couldn't figure out if there's a strong reason to go one or the other for a keyboard that will see mainly desk use. Any expertise that you can offer there?
Really appreciate the help.
Cerakote is a ceramic coating. It is used frequently on guns. It is very hard and scratch/heat resistant - substantially harder than powder coating. It is also thinner - it is possible to coat threads, down to some tolerance I can't remember. It costs a fair amount more because it is proprietary, requires special equipment, etc.
My comment about that was a bit of a joke, if not funny. There's really no good reason to use it on a keyboard, in terms of what it is used for - if you're abusing your keyboard that much, there's something else wrong. But, if you like the look of it (it does look distinctive, depending on the color), go for it. Some shops out there also do really fancy stencils and whatnot with it. If you want to look at example fancy applications and don't mind looking at guns, see https://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/gallery/ . Of course, you'll pay for fancy.
I'd offer to help, but I'm really not very good at powder coating because I hate doing it and the shop I do it at has a poor setup that sometimes causes botched jobs due to people opening the wrong door at the wrong time. And I would hate to do a crappy job on your VE.A.
Haha ok powder coating it is. Which were the two local places that didn't pass muster? Would like to avoid them to make sure my VE.A turns out nicely.
I've been on a similar quest in to find somewhere in the bay area to powder coat/re-anodize a couple of keyboards for me.
I'm keen to know how your search turns out.
The only place that's bothered to respond to me has been Leon's Powder Coating in Oakland/Santa Clara, and even then they don't seem too keen on helping. The search continues...
I'd recommend Gilbert Spray in Santa Clara. The company I work for has used them for years. They use Cardinal brand powdercoat materials. Check them out and let me know what you find.
Post by: MajorKoos on Wed, 01 March 2017, 12:58:58
...
I'd recommend Gilbert Spray in Santa Clara. The company I work for has used them for years. They use Cardinal brand powdercoat materials. Check them out and let me know what you find.
Thanks. Much appreciated.
Post by: N35 on Sat, 11 March 2017, 01:08:54
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Post by: ArchDill on Sat, 11 March 2017, 01:21:41
Since this GB is over how do I get one of these?
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Mech Market on Reddit is your best bet. Good luck!
Post by: N35 on Sat, 11 March 2017, 02:50:33
Thanks, not sure I'll get what I want there.Since this GB is over how do I get one of these?
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
Mech Market on Reddit is your best bet. Good luck!
I can't buy some pcbs that will enable me to build it myself? Or something similar?
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Post by: ArchDill on Sat, 11 March 2017, 03:07:51
Thanks, not sure I'll get what I want there.Since this GB is over how do I get one of these?
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
Mech Market on Reddit is your best bet. Good luck!
I can't buy some pcbs that will enable me to build it myself? Or something similar?
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As far as I know, there has only been one GB for it. So you will have to get it second hand or wait for the next GB.
Post by: N35 on Sat, 11 March 2017, 04:52:21
Ah, bummer. I'll go look for a second hand.Thanks, not sure I'll get what I want there.Since this GB is over how do I get one of these?
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
Mech Market on Reddit is your best bet. Good luck!
I can't buy some pcbs that will enable me to build it myself? Or something similar?
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
As far as I know, there has only been one GB for it. So you will have to get it second hand or wait for the next GB.
Is there any difference in terms of me wanting a large enter keys and Danish letters?
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Post by: N35 on Sat, 11 March 2017, 04:52:51
Alternatively, where can I see if the poster is interested in doing a other GB?Thanks, not sure I'll get what I want there.Since this GB is over how do I get one of these?
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
Mech Market on Reddit is your best bet. Good luck!
I can't buy some pcbs that will enable me to build it myself? Or something similar?
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
As far as I know, there has only been one GB for it. So you will have to get it second hand or wait for the next GB.
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 13 March 2017, 10:57:10
Alternatively, where can I see if the poster is interested in doing a other GB?
Oddforge is not going to be doing another groupbuy for the VE.A but will be releasing a version 2 likely this year. It will be posted here when they do.
Post by: romevi on Mon, 13 March 2017, 10:58:59
Alternatively, where can I see if the poster is interested in doing a other GB?
Oddforge is not going to be doing another groupbuy for the VE.A but will be releasing a version 2 likely this year. It will be posted here when they do.
Neat!
Post by: swangful on Mon, 13 March 2017, 12:31:41
Alternatively, where can I see if the poster is interested in doing a other GB?
Oddforge is not going to be doing another groupbuy for the VE.A but will be releasing a version 2 likely this year. It will be posted here when they do.
Neat!
Can't wait for v2. Not going to miss this one this time around.
Post by: MandrewDavis on Mon, 13 March 2017, 19:29:54
Hey, it's my hobby :) please do not forget that.
Some guys already talks about another round.
That is "A LOT OF PRESSURE" on me.
I absolutely have NO plan for another round.
Thanks to you all!
We will be back soon with brand new design!
I wouldn't count on a VE.A R2 per se, but anything Oddforge puts out will be fantastic!
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 13 March 2017, 22:00:32
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 14 March 2017, 12:03:00
...
We actually have plan for next version of VE.A.
Our new VE.A has other surface, not anodizing.
...
But as always it is just plan, we dont guarantee anything.
...
Post by: FoC_Tow on Wed, 15 March 2017, 18:12:40
...
We actually have plan for next version of VE.A.
Our new VE.A has other surface, not anodizing.
...
But as always it is just plan, we dont guarantee anything.
...
From where/when is this quote?
A new VE.A gb would be amazing but I guess chances of this happening any time soon are rather slim...
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 15 March 2017, 18:39:47
From where/when is this quote?
DM. That wasn't the whole message, and OF is hopeful, so stay tuned, but I don't want to throw them under the bus by giving out any specifics
Post by: swangful on Wed, 15 March 2017, 19:23:05
From where/when is this quote?
DM. That wasn't the whole message, and OF is hopeful, so stay tuned, but I don't want to throw them under the bus by giving out any specifics
Hopefuily soon, I havn't seen OP online since feb apparently. The demand seems to be here!
Post by: alienman82 on Wed, 15 March 2017, 21:16:25
Post by: zefyr on Thu, 16 March 2017, 01:14:36
you have to get his contact for kakaotalk if you really want to be able to contact him.
I do not use kakaotalk :)
People call me weirdo.
and to me, that sounds like "cool".
Post by: swangful on Thu, 16 March 2017, 15:53:31
you have to get his contact for kakaotalk if you really want to be able to contact him.
I do not use kakaotalk :)
People call me weirdo.
and to me, that sounds like "cool".
Do you have any extra VE.As? :D
Or news for a round 2?
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 16 March 2017, 16:08:55
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 16 March 2017, 16:32:35
Do you have any extra VE.As? :D
Or news for a round 2?
There are no extra VE.As, all of the produced models were purchased and shippid, and there is not going to be a round two but Vefyr has advised he is looking into a second version, as of which there are no details about
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 16 March 2017, 16:36:37
Post by: swangful on Thu, 16 March 2017, 16:39:10
if you really want one, put up the cash, it's going to be a while if and when we see anything.
otherwise there is the ergodox .
Hmm..what is the aftermarket asking for these days?
Post by: dubious on Thu, 16 March 2017, 16:48:11
if you really want one, put up the cash, it's going to be a while if and when we see anything.
otherwise there is the ergodox .
Hmm..what is the aftermarket asking for these days?
There is one for sale on /r/mechmarket for $650 (assembled, lubed, sip-socketed) $750 with tenting stand
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/5z248j/usca_h_cleanout_sale_artisans_fugu_bbv2_reapers/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/5z248j/usca_h_cleanout_sale_artisans_fugu_bbv2_reapers/)
Post by: swangful on Thu, 16 March 2017, 16:54:07
if you really want one, put up the cash, it's going to be a while if and when we see anything.
otherwise there is the ergodox .
Hmm..what is the aftermarket asking for these days?
There is one for sale on /r/mechmarket for $650 (assembled, lubed, sip-socketed) $750 with tenting stand
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/5z248j/usca_h_cleanout_sale_artisans_fugu_bbv2_reapers/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/5z248j/usca_h_cleanout_sale_artisans_fugu_bbv2_reapers/)
Thank you! I saw this one but I thought the price was a bit high...but I guess that seems to be the only good baseline. 750 is enough to build a decent PC lol.
Post by: jal on Thu, 16 March 2017, 17:23:05
Thank you! I saw this one but I thought the price was a bit high...but I guess that seems to be the only good baseline. 750 is enough to build a decent PC lol.
You won't see one much cheaper. I bought one in the MD group buy, and with the tenting stand and a spare PCB, the cost was a bit over $600. So add switches and rarity[1], and there you go.
[1] IIRC, there were about 100 sold in the GB, plus whatever was sold elsewhere.
Post by: swangful on Thu, 16 March 2017, 18:06:55
Thank you! I saw this one but I thought the price was a bit high...but I guess that seems to be the only good baseline. 750 is enough to build a decent PC lol.
You won't see one much cheaper. I bought one in the MD group buy, and with the tenting stand and a spare PCB, the cost was a bit over $600. So add switches and rarity[1], and there you go.
[1] IIRC, there were about 100 sold in the GB, plus whatever was sold elsewhere.
Thanks for the price breakdown! helps a lot with insight :D
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 16 March 2017, 18:19:28
...
We actually have plan for next version of VE.A.
Our new VE.A has other surface, not anodizing.
...
But as always it is just plan, we dont guarantee anything.
...
Really hoping there will be a next version someday.
Starting to regret only getting one more an more now
The mention of another finish instead anodizing always makes me picture white, based on the lack of white customs.
So I'm going to have this picture of a white VE.A stuck in my head now <3<3
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 16 March 2017, 20:25:50
Post by: MajorKoos on Thu, 16 March 2017, 23:02:49
...
We actually have plan for next version of VE.A.
Our new VE.A has other surface, not anodizing.
...
But as always it is just plan, we dont guarantee anything.
...
Really hoping there will be a next version someday.
Starting to regret only getting one more an more now
The mention of another finish instead anodizing always makes me picture white, based on the lack of white customs.
So I'm going to have this picture of a white VE.A stuck in my head now <3<3
I wonder if it's the same as the bottom of the STS plate from the MD group buy?
That would be an interesting option.
Post by: theillumedpanda on Fri, 17 March 2017, 06:08:06
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 17 March 2017, 11:11:39
It's going to be a while if and when we see anything.
Do you know this definitively? or are you just speculating?
Thank you! I saw this one but I thought the price was a bit high...but I guess that seems to be the only good baseline. 750 is enough to build a decent PC lol.
I spent $700 on mine, which is actually more than I was trying to put a PC together for =P
Post by: alienman82 on Fri, 17 March 2017, 11:32:34
Post by: zefyr on Mon, 20 March 2017, 03:59:46
It's going to be a while if and when we see anything.
Do you know this definitively? or are you just speculating?Thank you! I saw this one but I thought the price was a bit high...but I guess that seems to be the only good baseline. 750 is enough to build a decent PC lol.
I spent $700 on mine, which is actually more than I was trying to put a PC together for =P
Considering the time it was simply between the korean VeA GB and the Massdrop one, the time the IC was on here etc. It'll be a whole while.
The exception would be a R2, but he's denied it over and over
and over again :blank:
The thing is... we actually got several(hmm... yeh, tens) requests about stock or next round.
We released about 200 VE.As to geeky-mates all over the world. AND really proud of it :)
We don't care about rarity. But it's a bit old now. For a year and a half, we stuck in one model.
And VE.A is not suitable for production, SATA connector needs to be cut by BARE hands. and it's bugging me. and of course, was hard to handle.
So...
It's like chain-reaction kind of thing.
We want it to be fixed. Yeh.
That means, we need to fix cases also.
If we have to fix case, why not design a new one?
Thoughts reached here so far, still not ended. like cost, tilting, material, diffusing and so on.
And most of all, I am such a lazy bastard.
We are hoping you don't lose interests on us before we come back.
Hey, what a nice day to swim in thick smog! Damn. I got bad throat ouch.
Post by: Jedi on Mon, 20 March 2017, 04:08:49
We will wait and see what comes. Take care of your health and no one thinks the team is lazy! New designs take time so relax. We will wait :thumb:
Post by: wodan on Mon, 20 March 2017, 04:13:55
It is understandable you don't want to be the VE.A people forever but it is one of the most iconic designs ever. There is no shame in bringing this to the next level ...
Also I like very much what you said about rarity. The VE.A doesn't need to be rare to get appreciation!
Post by: theillumedpanda on Mon, 20 March 2017, 04:24:11
Post by: krisst on Mon, 20 March 2017, 05:25:59
and over again :blank:
The thing is... we actually got several(hmm... yeh, tens) requests about stock or next round.
We released about 200 VE.As to geeky-mates all over the world. AND really proud of it :)
We don't care about rarity. But it's a bit old now. For a year and a half, we stuck in one model.
And VE.A is not suitable for production, SATA connector needs to be cut by BARE hands. and it's bugging me. and of course, was hard to handle.
So...
It's like chain-reaction kind of thing.
We want it to be fixed. Yeh.
That means, we need to fix cases also.
If we have to fix case, why not design a new one?
Thoughts reached here so far, still not ended. like cost, tilting, material, diffusing and so on.
And most of all, I am such a lazy bastard.
We are hoping you don't lose interests on us before we come back.
Hey, what a nice day to swim in thick smog! Damn. I got bad throat ouch.
zefyr mentioned before the he is not willing to release VE.A with different colour because those special colours are only for the first GB supporters. Which is why the MD groupbuy only had 3 colours.
SATA connectors, seems like is going to be changed if there is a new project from him.
There might be more reasons, but looks like a brand new design with more colours would be a better choice. Although, I am sure there are people who would not mind getting the same selections of colours for another GB of VE.A v1.
Post by: theillumedpanda on Mon, 20 March 2017, 06:23:32
and over again :blank:
The thing is... we actually got several(hmm... yeh, tens) requests about stock or next round.
We released about 200 VE.As to geeky-mates all over the world. AND really proud of it :)
We don't care about rarity. But it's a bit old now. For a year and a half, we stuck in one model.
And VE.A is not suitable for production, SATA connector needs to be cut by BARE hands. and it's bugging me. and of course, was hard to handle.
So...
It's like chain-reaction kind of thing.
We want it to be fixed. Yeh.
That means, we need to fix cases also.
If we have to fix case, why not design a new one?
Thoughts reached here so far, still not ended. like cost, tilting, material, diffusing and so on.
And most of all, I am such a lazy bastard.
We are hoping you don't lose interests on us before we come back.
Hey, what a nice day to swim in thick smog! Damn. I got bad throat ouch.
zefyr mentioned before the he is not willing to release VE.A with different colour because those special colours are only for the first GB supporters. Which is why the MD groupbuy only had 3 colours.
SATA connectors, seems like is going to be changed if there is a new project from him.
There might be more reasons, but looks like a brand new design with more colours would be a better choice. Although, I am sure there are people who would not mind getting the same selections of colours for another GB of VE.A v1.
I fully understand that he doesn't want to release the colours he had offered for his first buyers, but I'd also be happy with just the 3 MD colours honestly.
The issue with the SATA connector is a bit odd and I really see his point that he wants to redress that problem. This step of production must be tedious for him.
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Mon, 20 March 2017, 07:25:42
We are hoping you don't lose interests on us before we come back.
I won't. I love your design. take all the time you want!
Post by: krisst on Mon, 27 March 2017, 01:01:56
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/the-soldering-hole <- Link. Require a registered account.
Post by: atomicus on Mon, 27 March 2017, 09:15:46
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 27 March 2017, 09:15:51
Post by: DormantLemon on Mon, 27 March 2017, 09:23:11
that was fast lol
I was confirming order 4 seconds after it opened, even with the server slowdown. Was still beaten.
On the +side, my set of Troubled Minds arrived today, so my VE.A is finally complete!
Post by: clappingcactus on Mon, 27 March 2017, 11:31:55
Is this board available in an ISO layout? Seems a rare find anyway, but I was curious.
The PCB supports ISO layout. I'm switching mine to ISO later today or tomorrow, so I can have some pictures for you if you like.
Post by: swangful on Mon, 27 March 2017, 11:51:17
that was fast lol
Yup...I had my gf help me too and no luck. Oh well...the wait for the redesign begins now :(
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 27 March 2017, 12:43:24
Post by: swangful on Mon, 27 March 2017, 12:50:36
What was the cost on these through that?
Around 410, I never got to see the price but this is what people are saying that saw it.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 27 March 2017, 12:54:36
Post by: swangful on Mon, 27 March 2017, 13:07:34
So bummed I missed this. I didn't even know that was happening on MD. Congrats to anyone who picked one up, I would have loved to have a brand new one instead of a used one. Missed out on an opportunity to get a Carbon and a Granite set too!? :eek: I need to pay more attention
Yeah it was posted on reddit but people downvoted the **** out of the thread. Everyone wanted to keep it on the downlow lol. There were only 4 VE.As available so...chances were super slim as it is. And of course there are potentially people just buying sets/boards to flip :T
Post by: theillumedpanda on Mon, 27 March 2017, 13:25:20
Now we need your redesign, new concept, whatever even more. I'll be waiting. :D
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 27 March 2017, 14:24:30
round 2 pls
Post by: MajorKoos on Fri, 07 April 2017, 10:54:06
(MD offered additional PCB's and plates as part of their drop.)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 10 April 2017, 17:38:29
Post by: hkf on Mon, 10 April 2017, 18:18:48
What are the key sizes for this board? Anyone have a diagram?
are you talking about bottom row? all other keys are standard.
supports a variety of layouts but there is a 2/1//2.75 split where the space would ordinarily be on a 75%.
Post by: exitfire401 on Mon, 10 April 2017, 18:28:45
It's going to be a while if and when we see anything.
Do you know this definitively? or are you just speculating?Thank you! I saw this one but I thought the price was a bit high...but I guess that seems to be the only good baseline. 750 is enough to build a decent PC lol.
I spent $700 on mine, which is actually more than I was trying to put a PC together for =P
Considering the time it was simply between the korean VeA GB and the Massdrop one, the time the IC was on here etc. It'll be a whole while.
The exception would be a R2, but he's denied it over and over
and over again :blank:
The thing is... we actually got several(hmm... yeh, tens) requests about stock or next round.
We released about 200 VE.As to geeky-mates all over the world. AND really proud of it :)
We don't care about rarity. But it's a bit old now. For a year and a half, we stuck in one model.
And VE.A is not suitable for production, SATA connector needs to be cut by BARE hands. and it's bugging me. and of course, was hard to handle.
So...
It's like chain-reaction kind of thing.
We want it to be fixed. Yeh.
That means, we need to fix cases also.
If we have to fix case, why not design a new one?
Thoughts reached here so far, still not ended. like cost, tilting, material, diffusing and so on.
And most of all, I am such a lazy bastard.
We are hoping you don't lose interests on us before we come back.
Hey, what a nice day to swim in thick smog! Damn. I got bad throat ouch.
After seeing the quality of this board, you've definitely got me drooling for whatever is next.
Post by: MajorKoos on Wed, 26 April 2017, 13:29:11
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89152.0
Post by: Data on Thu, 27 April 2017, 17:32:06
If you can't make it, fake it...
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89152.0
(Attachment Link)
Oh no you didn't...
Oh **** you did. :eek:
Post by: Skull_Angel on Thu, 27 April 2017, 21:56:34
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sat, 29 April 2017, 13:25:20
I might have asked this, but there are no plans for a round 2? I'm kicking myself about missing out!
This has been answered multiple times in this thread and not very far back, if you read through the last few pages of posts you will get your answer
Post by: alienman82 on Sat, 29 April 2017, 13:32:30
Post by: Skull_Angel on Sat, 29 April 2017, 15:19:48
I might have asked this, but there are no plans for a round 2? I'm kicking myself about missing out!
get an ergodox
No F-row and Ortholinear; I don't find it as comfortable as basic staggered for half of my needs.
I might have asked this, but there are no plans for a round 2? I'm kicking myself about missing out!
This has been answered multiple times in this thread and not very far back, if you read through the last few pages of posts you will get your answer
Drunk posting! I had read that v2 was being developed, but forgot.
Post by: dubious on Thu, 04 May 2017, 13:28:11
I might have asked this, but there are no plans for a round 2? I'm kicking myself about missing out!
get an ergodox
No F-row and Ortholinear; I don't find it as comfortable as basic staggered for half of my needs.I might have asked this, but there are no plans for a round 2? I'm kicking myself about missing out!
This has been answered multiple times in this thread and not very far back, if you read through the last few pages of posts you will get your answer
Drunk posting! I had read that v2 was being developed, but forgot.
There is no plan for a 2nd VEA, but they said they might be working on a new keyboard. Probably 60% since it's hip
Post by: Skull_Angel on Thu, 04 May 2017, 14:42:58
There is no plan for a 2nd VEA, but they said they might be working on a new keyboard. Probably 60% since it's hip
That's balls, I liked the design; you don't see enough 75% with unique layout.
Post by: runswithflowers on Fri, 05 May 2017, 08:42:09
There is no plan for a 2nd VEA, but they said they might be working on a new keyboard. Probably 60% since it's hip
That's balls, I liked the design; you don't see enough 75% with unique layout.
But how sexy would a split old-school 1800 layout be... A man can dream...
Post by: JDragon on Thu, 01 June 2017, 15:50:46
Post by: dubious on Thu, 01 June 2017, 16:29:57
and bootmapper client (http://blog.winkeyless.kr/155) if you need it
Post by: JDragon on Thu, 01 June 2017, 18:02:03
Firmware (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases)
and bootmapper client (http://blog.winkeyless.kr/155) if you need it
Thank you!
Turns out my PCB is damaged. :(
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 01 June 2017, 18:44:13
Post by: litster on Mon, 03 July 2017, 23:25:15
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-zambumon-gmk-nautilus-custom-keycap-set
Post by: clappingcactus on Sun, 30 July 2017, 07:37:11
Post by: redbanshee on Fri, 04 August 2017, 12:27:06
build album: http://imgur.com/a/lR64b
one of my favorites! love this board! :thumb:
Post by: MajorKoos on Fri, 04 August 2017, 13:31:23
Show Image(http://imgur.com/lrJcKEm.jpg)
build album: http://imgur.com/a/lR64b
one of my favorites! love this board! :thumb:
Looks awesome.
Lubed MOD switches rock as well - super tactile.
Post by: ipreferpie on Sat, 05 August 2017, 11:19:41
Post by: KetchyKech on Thu, 24 August 2017, 09:18:57
(http://i.imgur.com/MVofXl5.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/g9JhMlR.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/7lcj0nC.jpg)
Post by: dubious on Thu, 24 August 2017, 12:55:45
x-post --- finally got her built --- Salmon ALPS, plate from lasergist using .cad file, ALPS DSA Lightcycle!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MVofXl5.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/g9JhMlR.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7lcj0nC.jpg)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/a38f2ce83bbe2bfd282363513e794aea/tumblr_or4asiIHDb1suqfifo1_500.gif)
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 24 October 2017, 04:06:25
It's going to be a while if and when we see anything.
Do you know this definitively? or are you just speculating?Thank you! I saw this one but I thought the price was a bit high...but I guess that seems to be the only good baseline. 750 is enough to build a decent PC lol.
I spent $700 on mine, which is actually more than I was trying to put a PC together for =P
Considering the time it was simply between the korean VeA GB and the Massdrop one, the time the IC was on here etc. It'll be a whole while.
The exception would be a R2, but he's denied it over and over
and over again :blank:
The thing is... we actually got several(hmm... yeh, tens) requests about stock or next round.
We released about 200 VE.As to geeky-mates all over the world. AND really proud of it :)
We don't care about rarity. But it's a bit old now. For a year and a half, we stuck in one model.
And VE.A is not suitable for production, SATA connector needs to be cut by BARE hands. and it's bugging me. and of course, was hard to handle.
So...
It's like chain-reaction kind of thing.
We want it to be fixed. Yeh.
That means, we need to fix cases also.
If we have to fix case, why not design a new one?
Thoughts reached here so far, still not ended. like cost, tilting, material, diffusing and so on.
And most of all, I am such a lazy bastard.
We are hoping you don't lose interests on us before we come back.
Hey, what a nice day to swim in thick smog! Damn. I got bad throat ouch.
I hope that designing is coming along well because I would give my left nut for one of these.
Post by: MandrewDavis on Mon, 30 October 2017, 15:19:36
This is my first time trying SA since besides my Dolch Pac, it's my only MX keyboard. I didn't think I would really care for the profile but it has really grown on me!
(https://i.imgur.com/wWcd8y8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/c3tGFUg.jpg)
Specs:
•Holtites installed for switches only
•Krytox lubed and stickered PCB mount vintage blacks from a busted up eBay NCR G80-0427 (https://i.imgur.com/h0Lf66H.jpg). None of the mold numberings exceed 20.
•Gateron blacks on the macros, vintage grey for the spacebar.
•Springs swapped with Victorinox lubed SPRiT 63.5g 24k gold springs.
•GMK screw-in stabs with WYSE (pre-clipped) plate mounted inserts. Gold plated screws and wires.
•Black 3M Vinyl applied where the white pcb is exposed and as landing pads for stabilizers.
•Spacebars sourced from a 1976 grab-bag in order to match the Chocolatier alphas.
•SIP sockets paired with the color change lock LEDs
•Wenge wrist rests from Alienman's groupbuy.
Post by: theillumedpanda on Mon, 30 October 2017, 15:33:26
Post by: clappingcactus on Mon, 30 October 2017, 17:09:59
Post by: MajorKoos on Fri, 03 November 2017, 12:30:12
Post by: Tre3Cycl3S on Fri, 03 November 2017, 23:33:30
A Stock, B Stock and DIY
Would you mind pointing out where did you get those SATA cable (the one on your DIY and the left VE.A)? Considering getting one myself.
Post by: MajorKoos on Sat, 04 November 2017, 07:32:50
A Stock, B Stock and DIY
Would you mind pointing out where did you get those SATA cable (the one on your DIY and the left VE.A)? Considering getting one myself.
They're made by Silverstone - CP11B
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=445
I got mine from Newegg.
Post by: Tre3Cycl3S on Mon, 06 November 2017, 21:16:33
A Stock, B Stock and DIY
Would you mind pointing out where did you get those SATA cable (the one on your DIY and the left VE.A)? Considering getting one myself.
They're made by Silverstone - CP11B
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=445
I got mine from Newegg.
Thank you good sir!
Post by: ildustry on Mon, 20 November 2017, 00:11:58
Long time no see.
We are preparing for the following versions of VE.A
We are trying to meet before 2017.
We finished the sample and I'm going to post some pictures later.
We hope you're looking forward to it.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 20 November 2017, 00:12:39
Hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Long time no see.
We are preparing for the following versions of VE.A
We are trying to meet before 2017.
We finished the sample and I'm going to post some pictures later.
We hope you're looking forward to it.
Holy crap.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 20 November 2017, 01:19:08
Hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Long time no see.
We are preparing for the following versions of VE.A
We are trying to meet before 2017.
We finished the sample and I'm going to post some pictures later.
We hope you're looking forward to it.
O_O
Post by: clappingcactus on Mon, 20 November 2017, 03:50:04
Hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Long time no see.
We are preparing for the following versions of VE.A
We are trying to meet before 2017.
We finished the sample and I'm going to post some pictures later.
We hope you're looking forward to it.
Guess all my other keyboard plans are on hold. :))
Post by: wodan on Mon, 20 November 2017, 04:52:09
Hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Long time no see.
We are preparing for the following versions of VE.A
We are trying to meet before 2017.
We finished the sample and I'm going to post some pictures later.
We hope you're looking forward to it.
YES YES YES
Post by: avid on Mon, 20 November 2017, 05:49:59
Will you run this GB on massdrop or geekhack?
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 20 November 2017, 10:05:17
Post by: clasicks on Mon, 20 November 2017, 10:06:22
Post by: mech0nly on Mon, 20 November 2017, 10:15:03
Post by: schoolbus on Mon, 20 November 2017, 10:16:04
Post by: DormantLemon on Mon, 20 November 2017, 10:27:18
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Post by: theillumedpanda on Mon, 20 November 2017, 10:28:38
Post by: zacheadams on Mon, 20 November 2017, 10:35:03
I really hope that they‘ve removed the odd SATA connector and replaced it with something else.
x2
Post by: toan on Mon, 20 November 2017, 10:36:54
Hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Long time no see.
We are preparing for the following versions of VE.A
We are trying to meet before 2017.
We finished the sample and I'm going to post some pictures later.
We hope you're looking forward to it.
Yes, are we going to have an IC or go directly to GB? And is there a limit quantity for this or everyone can get one?
Post by: mbsurfer on Mon, 20 November 2017, 10:40:26
I really hope that they‘ve removed the odd SATA connector and replaced it with something else.
x2
x3
Post by: MajorKoos on Mon, 20 November 2017, 11:32:57
Hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Long time no see.
We are preparing for the following versions of VE.A
We are trying to meet before 2017.
We finished the sample and I'm going to post some pictures later.
We hope you're looking forward to it.
Yes please!
I'll take 2.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 20 November 2017, 11:42:33
I really hope that they‘ve removed the odd SATA connector and replaced it with something else.
x2
x3
-1
I like that it's SATA
Post by: HouseofSuffering on Mon, 20 November 2017, 11:50:25
I really hope that they‘ve removed the odd SATA connector and replaced it with something else.
x2
x3
-1
I like that it's SATA
-2
I liked that/didn't mind that it was SATA as well. Especially considering ZeFyr has previously explained all the reasons why SATA was the chosen for the VE.A 1.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79183.msg2042517#msg2042517
Post by: mbsurfer on Mon, 20 November 2017, 12:15:37
I really hope that they‘ve removed the odd SATA connector and replaced it with something else.
x2
x3
-1
I like that it's SATA
-2
I liked that/didn't mind that it was SATA as well. Especially considering ZeFyr has previously explained all the reasons why SATA was the chosen for the VE.A 1.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79183.msg2042517#msg2042517
USB-C meets all of those needs, unless I'm missing something
Post by: kiwi99 on Mon, 20 November 2017, 12:27:28
USB-C meets all of those needs, unless I'm missing something
usb-c is cheap, easy to source and easy to hand solder ? :confused: . Don't get me wrong USB-C is great but for a product you want to be able to customize and DIY it's still not the greatest.
Post by: HouseofSuffering on Mon, 20 November 2017, 12:34:09
USB-C meets all of those needs, unless I'm missing something
usb-c is cheap, easy to source and easy to hand solder ? :confused: . Don't get me wrong USB-C is great but for a product you want to be able to customize and DIY it's still not the greatest.
Exactly. Not to mention ZeFyr's post was from Feb 2016...which means his decision in the favor of SATA was probably made in 2015. How common/cheap was USB C in 2015???
USB C is probably a more likely option now though.... it will be interesting to see what he chose now.
Post by: hkf on Mon, 20 November 2017, 16:42:33
USB-C meets all of those needs, unless I'm missing something
usb-c is cheap, easy to source and easy to hand solder ? :confused: . Don't get me wrong USB-C is great but for a product you want to be able to customize and DIY it's still not the greatest.
Exactly. Not to mention ZeFyr's post was from Feb 2016...which means his decision in the favor of SATA was probably made in 2015. How common/cheap was USB C in 2015???
USB C is probably a more likely option now though.... it will be interesting to see what he chose now.
My phone had usb-c in 2015 so yeah
Post by: HouseofSuffering on Mon, 20 November 2017, 17:00:34
USB-C meets all of those needs, unless I'm missing something
usb-c is cheap, easy to source and easy to hand solder ? :confused: . Don't get me wrong USB-C is great but for a product you want to be able to customize and DIY it's still not the greatest.
Exactly. Not to mention ZeFyr's post was from Feb 2016...which means his decision in the favor of SATA was probably made in 2015. How common/cheap was USB C in 2015???
USB C is probably a more likely option now though.... it will be interesting to see what he chose now.
My phone had usb-c in 2015 so yeah
Fancy. :cool:
Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 20 November 2017, 17:48:04
Never got over the regrets of only getting one VE.A first round, so definitely in for atleast two this time around =)
Post by: OneNightFriend on Mon, 20 November 2017, 18:54:14
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171121/c5bb8fd80b4929e2b818e776a19bda9b.jpg)
Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 20 November 2017, 19:00:39
The only problem I had with sata is that it is hard to find custom color cables for. Looking forward to a new improved VE.A!Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171121/c5bb8fd80b4929e2b818e776a19bda9b.jpg)
Sata Cables should be fairly easy to get custom cables for.
In addition too of the shelve sleeved cables, mdpcx sleeving is available for Sata cables, so if you say order a custom usb from Pexon you can always get matching sata.
Nothing against going usb-c, but I quite liked sata =)
Post by: OneNightFriend on Mon, 20 November 2017, 20:13:54
Mine came from Pexon. Just a shame there's not a US option for something like this when there are so many options for USB.The only problem I had with sata is that it is hard to find custom color cables for. Looking forward to a new improved VE.A!Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171121/c5bb8fd80b4929e2b818e776a19bda9b.jpg)
Sata Cables should be fairly easy to get custom cables for.
In addition too of the shelve sleeved cables, mdpcx sleeving is available for Sata cables, so if you say order a custom usb from Pexon you can always get matching sata.
Nothing against going usb-c, but I quite liked sata =)
Post by: schoolbus on Mon, 20 November 2017, 20:32:00
Post by: mech0nly on Mon, 20 November 2017, 21:04:11
biggest thing IMO is trying to address the latency issues.
I got rid the latency issue by setting the debounce number to 1.
Initially it was 5, and yeah, i feel the latency.
Post by: schoolbus on Mon, 20 November 2017, 21:12:51
biggest thing IMO is trying to address the latency issues.
I got rid the latency issue by setting the debounce number to 1.
Initially it was 5, and yeah, i feel the latency.
Wow... thank you so much! Just fixed everything for me.
Post by: Gatix on Tue, 21 November 2017, 06:02:23
biggest thing IMO is trying to address the latency issues.
I got rid the latency issue by setting the debounce number to 1.
Initially it was 5, and yeah, i feel the latency.
How do you set the debounce value? My VE.A has been sitting around because of this issue
Post by: schoolbus on Tue, 21 November 2017, 06:50:53
biggest thing IMO is trying to address the latency issues.
I got rid the latency issue by setting the debounce number to 1.
Initially it was 5, and yeah, i feel the latency.
How do you set the debounce value? My VE.A has been sitting around because of this issue
Bootmapper client last tab bottom right
Post by: t8c on Tue, 21 November 2017, 13:50:47
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 21 November 2017, 14:56:36
Hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Long time no see.
We are preparing for the following versions of VE.A
We are trying to meet before 2017.
We finished the sample and I'm going to post some pictures later.
We hope you're looking forward to it.
****
Post by: ander on Wed, 22 November 2017, 03:05:01
Post by: avid on Wed, 22 November 2017, 16:47:03
"There are a few things coming in with TYPEMACHINA:
VE.A 2"
So VE.A 2 being ran by originative?
Post by: AuthenticDanger on Wed, 22 November 2017, 17:05:31
http://www.kbdist.com/updates
"There are a few things coming in with TYPEMACHINA:
VE.A 2"
So VE.A 2 being ran by originative?
I'm so ready for a VE.A 2!
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 22 November 2017, 17:35:41
Post by: avid on Wed, 22 November 2017, 17:46:39
What is TYPEMACHINA?
googled it and found a quote from invisibiliti on reddit:
"Yes. Mostly likely through typemachina (huge collab effort)"
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6x9e6f/red_and_black_unbuilt_keycult_no1/
So through their GB-page i suppose?
Post by: hkf on Wed, 22 November 2017, 21:54:58
http://www.kbdist.com/updates
"There are a few things coming in with TYPEMACHINA:
VE.A 2"
So VE.A 2 being ran by originative?
frown
Post by: clasicks on Thu, 23 November 2017, 11:57:25
I look forward to seeing this go live.
Post by: aznreaper on Thu, 30 November 2017, 14:20:23
Post by: PainMaster on Tue, 05 December 2017, 03:07:40
I finished assembling two days ago.
:-*
Post by: FoC_Tow on Tue, 05 December 2017, 03:40:52
The VE.A 2 sample is now in my car ~~ .
O_O
Edit:
Wait two days ago...
Where are those smexy pics?
I’m dying over here xD
Post by: thelaughingman on Tue, 05 December 2017, 09:27:24
The VE.A 2 sample is now in my car ~~ .
I finished assembling two days ago.
:-*
and no pics??? damn you teaser!!! :p
Post by: MajorKoos on Tue, 05 December 2017, 11:09:29
The VE.A 2 sample is now in my car ~~ .
I finished assembling two days ago.
:-*
Tease...
Post by: ildustry on Wed, 06 December 2017, 19:50:26
(https://i.imgur.com/mVpenc1.jpg)
Post by: Rogerwyf on Wed, 06 December 2017, 20:35:03
I do not want a keyboard that's too expensive.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mVpenc1.jpg)
wow
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 06 December 2017, 20:43:59
I do not want a keyboard that's too expensive.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mVpenc1.jpg)
very nice
Post by: MajorKoos on Thu, 07 December 2017, 07:59:56
I do not want a keyboard that's too expensive.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mVpenc1.jpg)
Interesting. Are those for the indicator LEDs?
Post by: OneNightFriend on Thu, 07 December 2017, 08:15:48
I was thinking maybe weights this time?I do not want a keyboard that's too expensive.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mVpenc1.jpg)
Interesting. Are those for the indicator LEDs?
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 07 December 2017, 09:54:42
Post by: clappingcactus on Thu, 07 December 2017, 09:58:48
Since none of the colors match I wouldn't expect it to be a nameplate because that would create too many weird colours on one side of the keyboard.
Post by: avid on Thu, 07 December 2017, 10:09:31
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 11 December 2017, 03:42:08
So VE.A 2 being ran by originative?Oh god I hope not :( Their handling of JTK Toxic has been anything but confidence inspiring.
Post by: schoolbus on Mon, 11 December 2017, 07:43:04
So VE.A 2 being ran by originative?Oh god I hope not :( Their handling of JTK Toxic has been anything but confidence inspiring.
I don't think there's a single keyboard related vendor in existence that hasn't had issues so pick your poison.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 11 December 2017, 09:02:22
So VE.A 2 being ran by originative?Oh god I hope not :( Their handling of JTK Toxic has been anything but confidence inspiring.
JTK toxic has provided no reasons to worry about them
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 11 December 2017, 13:06:35
So VE.A 2 being ran by originative?Oh god I hope not :( Their handling of JTK Toxic has been anything but confidence inspiring.
JTK toxic has provided no reasons to worry about them
+1
Post by: superdoedoe on Wed, 13 December 2017, 15:56:25
Post by: jackedhardwarejunkie on Wed, 13 December 2017, 16:02:07
Can we get the proto pics lelX2
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 14 December 2017, 02:51:33
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 14 December 2017, 03:56:16
Post by: alienman82 on Thu, 14 December 2017, 06:54:06
Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 18 December 2017, 10:31:05
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 18 December 2017, 10:44:55
Post by: energyd on Wed, 10 January 2018, 11:23:39
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 10 January 2018, 12:52:10
Anyone know when this gonna drop?
Nope. We are all waiting for more information from Zefyr
Post by: MajorKoos on Wed, 10 January 2018, 13:40:44
Anyone know when this gonna drop?
Nope. We are all waiting for more information from Zefyr
shush - just now everyone will want one ;)
Post by: ReverbSlush on Wed, 10 January 2018, 21:43:46
Post by: exitfire401 on Sat, 27 January 2018, 18:10:59
this is easily my only "insta-buy" of 2018 (or whenever it drops).
Same...My VE.A hasn't left my desk since I finished building it...my poor kingsaver sits in the corner and weeps from neglect.
Post by: zoois on Thu, 08 February 2018, 03:20:22
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Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Thu, 08 February 2018, 05:18:13
Here's some pictures of my board.
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Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: MajorKoos on Thu, 08 February 2018, 09:18:07
Here's some pictures of my board.
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Totally endgame
Post by: dubious on Thu, 08 February 2018, 11:32:15
Here's some pictures of my board.
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great pictures! DSA looks really nice on this board
Post by: kconfire on Thu, 01 March 2018, 23:10:34
Is there a plan in place to drop a VE.A GB anytime soon?
I found out about the VE.A very late, but here's a hoping I'd be able to get in on one of the GBs if it takes off anytime soon. :thumb:
They look great!
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 01 March 2018, 23:24:44
Wow, holy crap!
Is there a plan in place to drop a VE.A GB anytime soon?
I found out about the VE.A very late, but here's a hoping I'd be able to get in on one of the GBs if it takes off anytime soon. :thumb:
They look great!
v2 coming "soon"
Post by: FoC_Tow on Fri, 02 March 2018, 18:17:22
Post by: nathanchere on Sat, 03 March 2018, 09:07:20
The VE.A 2 sample is now in my car ~~ .This post was 3 months ago now and still no actual pics.
I finished assembling two days ago.
:-*
I can see why you are called 'Painmaster'... :(
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 03 March 2018, 11:46:32
The VE.A 2 sample is now in my car ~~ .This post was 3 months ago now and still no actual pics.
I finished assembling two days ago.
:-*
I can see why you are called 'Painmaster'... :(
they've been super secretive with the look of the board
i think they've gone through a few iterations
Post by: shensmobile on Sun, 11 March 2018, 13:29:33
Also, what are the LED's used for the underglow? One of mine is sometimes stuck on even when I turn the LED's off, or it doesn't turn on at all. I might try to replace it.
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 11 March 2018, 13:44:05
Hey guys, is there any chance that there are any VE.A PCB's floating around? I'd love to have a spare MX PCB for safety's sake :)
Also, what are the LED's used for the underglow? One of mine is sometimes stuck on even when I turn the LED's off, or it doesn't turn on at all. I might try to replace it.
no pcbs
LEDs are WS2812 i believe
Post by: shensmobile on Sun, 11 March 2018, 14:17:07
Hey guys, is there any chance that there are any VE.A PCB's floating around? I'd love to have a spare MX PCB for safety's sake :)
Also, what are the LED's used for the underglow? One of mine is sometimes stuck on even when I turn the LED's off, or it doesn't turn on at all. I might try to replace it.
no pcbs
LEDs are WS2812 i believe
Dang, well I hope that nothing's wrong with mine. This LED issue is bugging me.
I'll do some research on the LED's. I think that they're the WS2812B as well. Thanks for confirming. Hopefully it's just an LED problem and not a microcontroller issue.
Post by: ampt on Sun, 08 April 2018, 13:15:15
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 11 April 2018, 21:15:25
I'll do some research on the LED's. I think that they're the WS2812B as well. Thanks for confirming. Hopefully it's just an LED problem and not a microcontroller issue.
They are WS2812Bs, which are also NeoPixel 5050s. 99.9999% of the time, it's the RGB module. A failed controller wouldn't exhibit as one LED stuck because of how the serial data protocol works.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Thu, 10 May 2018, 06:33:04
Post by: ejewell89 on Mon, 14 May 2018, 11:07:03
Keep offers to buy and sell to the classifieds.
M O D P O W E R
Post by: romevi on Mon, 14 May 2018, 11:13:37
Keep offers to buy and sell to the classifieds.
M O D P O W E R
WTB Mod powers. (And privileges via rare caps.)
Post by: xondat on Mon, 14 May 2018, 11:14:36
Keep offers to buy and sell to the classifieds.
M O D P O W E R
WTB Mod powers. (And privileges via rare caps.)
You should apply then :-\
Post by: romevi on Mon, 14 May 2018, 11:48:48
Keep offers to buy and sell to the classifieds.
M O D P O W E R
WTB Mod powers. (And privileges via rare caps.)
You should apply then :-\
Man alive, can you imagine the stress? No thanks.
Post by: ReverbSlush on Wed, 20 June 2018, 08:21:19
Post by: Karaso on Sun, 24 June 2018, 09:07:37
VE.A is so sick board omg
Post by: mech0nly on Sun, 24 June 2018, 10:06:26
I hope that I can see version 2.
VE.A is so sick board omg
The most sophisticated board I own. really worth it :thumb:
Post by: MajorKoos on Sun, 24 June 2018, 10:43:23
I believe they're going to be run through Typemachina which concerns me a bit tbh as it looks like they're building a storefront for custom keyboard makers like LZ, Oddforge and others.
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 24 June 2018, 13:12:10
From what I understand getting rid of the SATA connection between the two halves and making the whole package easier to manufacture are the two main goals of the project.
I believe they're going to be run through Typemachina which concerns me a bit tbh as it looks like they're building a storefront for custom keyboard makers like LZ, Oddforge and others.
im not concerned about type machina being bad at all
that's sherry's baby
Post by: mclow85 on Thu, 28 June 2018, 21:19:02
im very new to this,
does each key has a led also? or is there a way to add single key leds?
i have a few ideas for the new v2..
make a complete frosted case for the keyboard and the wrist rest.
and add a volume/switch knob with press function in the corner :D
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 28 June 2018, 22:07:09
i love this keyboard... its perfect!
im very new to this,
does each key has a led also? or is there a way to add single key leds?
i have a few ideas for the new v2..
make a complete frosted case for the keyboard and the wrist rest.
and add a volume/switch knob with press function in the corner :D
frosted polycarb go AWAY as a keyboard material
it's good for looks only, worse for everything else
Post by: ctrl on Tue, 03 July 2018, 16:21:09
Post by: MajorKoos on Fri, 06 July 2018, 08:57:57
From what I understand getting rid of the SATA connection between the two halves and making the whole package easier to manufacture are the two main goals of the project.
I believe they're going to be run through Typemachina which concerns me a bit tbh as it looks like they're building a storefront for custom keyboard makers like LZ, Oddforge and others.
im not concerned about type machina being bad at all
that's sherry's baby
In the light of recent events I think you see why I view any attempt to corner the market with suspicion.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 06 July 2018, 14:13:18
bump. this is the last keeb I would ever buy, not even kidding about how e n d g a m e it is for me... any word on v2?
I thought this too, then I was able to get one. Not only get one, but get THE one, the one that was Odd Forge's baby they let randomfrankp review, their "perfect" VE.A. But it didn't stop, and I realize now what the veteran members say when they warn that there is no end game. I hope you can get one of these.
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 12 July 2018, 20:33:37
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/8yfhxt/caon_h_vea_artisans_paypal_w_paypal_trades/
Post by: mech0nly on Thu, 12 July 2018, 20:42:40
My VE.Alps ;)
Post by: schoolbus on Thu, 12 July 2018, 21:15:23
Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180713/e238e31ccce5f051424741e53d4ad27a.jpg)
My VE.Alps ;)
I love gateron yellows. What made you go with Nancy over Ice layout?
Post by: mech0nly on Thu, 12 July 2018, 21:24:38
Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180713/e238e31ccce5f051424741e53d4ad27a.jpg)
My VE.Alps ;)
I love gateron yellows. What made you go with Nancy over Ice layout?
Whole different tactile experience :D
Post by: Sup on Thu, 12 July 2018, 22:32:01
Post by: schoolbus on Fri, 13 July 2018, 00:19:19
Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180713/e238e31ccce5f051424741e53d4ad27a.jpg)
My VE.Alps ;)
I love gateron yellows. What made you go with Nancy over Ice layout?
Whole different tactile experience :D
Hehe, Kawaii Desu. ^^;;;;;;;;;;;;
Post by: dantambok on Wed, 18 July 2018, 19:53:32
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 18 July 2018, 20:54:59
Does anyone have info about R2?
info on it is pretty heavily protected
i haven't heard anything reliable
Post by: mech0nly on Wed, 18 July 2018, 20:59:19
Does anyone have info about R2?
info on it is pretty heavily protected
i haven't heard anything reliable
Even oddforge’s website disappeared :(
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Fri, 17 August 2018, 03:44:07
Post by: t8c on Fri, 17 August 2018, 06:47:32
anyone have the original VEA plate files? now the website has gone I can't grab them anymore :(Grabbed off of archive.org. (http://oddforge.com:80/product/vea_resource (http://web.archive.org/web/20170717043902/http://oddforge.com:80/product/vea_resource))
http://web.archive.org/web/20170717043902/http://oddforge.com:80/etc/vea/Example_Alps_Switch_Plate_for_VE.A.dxf
Dropbox mirror (https://www.dropbox.com/s/k0r95sorqiof592/Example_Alps_Switch_Plate_for_VE.A.dxf?dl=0)
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Fri, 17 August 2018, 09:01:28
anyone have the original VEA plate files? now the website has gone I can't grab them anymore :(Grabbed off of archive.org. (http://oddforge.com:80/product/vea_resource (http://web.archive.org/web/20170717043902/http://oddforge.com:80/product/vea_resource))
http://web.archive.org/web/20170717043902/http://oddforge.com:80/etc/vea/Example_Alps_Switch_Plate_for_VE.A.dxf
Dropbox mirror (https://www.dropbox.com/s/k0r95sorqiof592/Example_Alps_Switch_Plate_for_VE.A.dxf?dl=0)
thanks man - I'll take a look as soon as I get on desktop :)
Post by: UncleGary on Sat, 13 October 2018, 05:18:16
Post by: urbantheii on Mon, 26 November 2018, 07:49:51
Keyboard gods, heed my call for an update.
I might be wrong but I was looking oddforge today (http://oddforge.hopto.org:8080/wordpress/) and it looks like they are doing a 2nd iteration although there is not much information and I can't read Korean
Post by: typischt on Mon, 26 November 2018, 07:51:15
IC already happening for this:Keyboard gods, heed my call for an update.
I might be wrong but I was looking oddforge today (http://oddforge.hopto.org:8080/wordpress/) and it looks like they are doing a 2nd iteration although there is not much information and I can't read Korean
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98324.0
Post by: FrostyToast on Tue, 11 December 2018, 21:33:23
I had it before, but I forgot to back the file up when I formatted my drive.
Post by: MajorKoos on Wed, 12 December 2018, 09:26:44
Does anyone here have the ALPS plate file for the original VEA?
I had it before, but I forgot to back the file up when I formatted my drive.
https://github.com/MajorKoos/KBDParts/tree/master/VE.A%20Parts
Post by: FrostyToast on Wed, 12 December 2018, 10:06:57
Does anyone here have the ALPS plate file for the original VEA?
I had it before, but I forgot to back the file up when I formatted my drive.
https://github.com/MajorKoos/KBDParts/tree/master/VE.A%20Parts
Thanks a bunch!
Post by: gnasherrr on Thu, 01 August 2019, 22:52:40
Post by: MajorKoos on Fri, 02 August 2019, 09:20:48
does anyone have the stock switch plate design files? the oddforge website has been down for a while : /
In my sig.
They only released an ALPS version of the files.
Post by: gnasherrr on Sat, 03 August 2019, 08:44:37
Post by: MajorKoos on Sat, 03 August 2019, 11:08:19
thanks! although i didn't find the switch plate file for the stock plate? is it the same as the alps plate or something?
Oddforge didn't release the files for the MX plate, just the Alps one.
I've attached a MX version that I was working on.
I never got round to testing it though as I found a spare plate on /r/mm.
Post by: gnasherrr on Sat, 03 August 2019, 17:51:57
Post by: MajorKoos on Sat, 03 August 2019, 21:15:26
thanks! lol damn you are lucky. since extra plates wasn't an option during the original GB, i wonder how people got their hands on extra plates. At this point, i bet the stock pretty much non-existant.
The Massdrop GB had options for either an extra PCB or an extra plate.
I got a spare PCB with mine and picked up the spare plate off /r/mm.
Then I used the ALPS plate files to design a 3d printable case.
https://imgur.com/a/Ew0Ox