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Offline alienman82

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #400 on: Thu, 13 October 2016, 16:53:56 »
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #401 on: Thu, 13 October 2016, 16:58:58 »
Quote from: alienman82 on Thu, 13 October 2016, 16:53:56

possibly.. the thing is the layout will determine MOQ.  every layout would have a separate one.  plus it's a small pool of people to deal with as well.  [...]

Yeah. I don't know how many were sold in the first drop, but Massdrop sold 102 VE.As. (At least that's what it said on the page that list my purchases.)

Not sure how to estimate how many of those would take part at all, let alone per-type, but this is probably a job for lasergist.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #402 on: Thu, 13 October 2016, 21:54:30 »
Love this board. My new daily!  :thumb:

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #403 on: Thu, 13 October 2016, 22:13:07 »
Quote from: zefyr on Wed, 12 October 2016, 10:30:27
BUMP
Quick Question About Price for B-stock.

- We will mark with small intentional dent on inside (totally invisible when assembled)
- Our MSRP is 450 USD, we will discount over 20% for B-stock. which will be around 350USD for Basic Kit + misc
---- Case, PCB, Plate
---- SATA cable, 3Lock LEDs with matching resistors (will not be pre-soldered) for your convenience.
- We will charge paypal fee to you.
- We will use EMS with tracking number. package weight is under 2.5kg (those who uses pounds, do your math by yourself)
----You can check your shipping cost at following link.
----http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal
- We will not accept any undervalue request.

How's this sounds?
Any good?


Quote from: zefyr on Thu, 13 October 2016, 04:51:11
Quote from: hkf on Wed, 12 October 2016, 16:51:19
Can we buy plate + pcb only?

I don't see why not at this point.
But as always, nothing set firmly yet.

Whether I buy one of the B-stocks or just a backup pcb/plate depends on the price. Any idea how much spare PCB+Plates would cost?

I wasn't in the massdrop so I don't know what the retail for those was.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #405 on: Thu, 13 October 2016, 22:22:34 »
Quote from: adamski07 on Thu, 13 October 2016, 21:54:30
Love this board. My new daily!  :thumb:

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very nice picture  :thumb:
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #406 on: Thu, 13 October 2016, 22:42:30 »

Quote from: alienman82 on Thu, 13 October 2016, 22:14:24
Quote from: adamski07 on Thu, 13 October 2016, 21:54:30
Love this board. My new daily!  :thumb:

Show Image


looks like that livestream one?  I like the clear housing on it.  I'm building mine right now actually just taking a break :)

Correct. too lazy to setup the livestream again so I decided to finish the build without livestreaming it again.  :p
Quote from: juahenza on Thu, 13 October 2016, 22:22:34
Quote from: adamski07 on Thu, 13 October 2016, 21:54:30
Love this board. My new daily!  :thumb:

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very nice picture  :thumb:

thanks! Here's another one.


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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #408 on: Thu, 13 October 2016, 23:37:33 »
Quote from: clappingcactus on Thu, 13 October 2016, 22:13:07
Quote from: zefyr on Wed, 12 October 2016, 10:30:27
BUMP
Quick Question About Price for B-stock.

- We will mark with small intentional dent on inside (totally invisible when assembled)
- Our MSRP is 450 USD, we will discount over 20% for B-stock. which will be around 350USD for Basic Kit + misc
---- Case, PCB, Plate
---- SATA cable, 3Lock LEDs with matching resistors (will not be pre-soldered) for your convenience.
- We will charge paypal fee to you.
- We will use EMS with tracking number. package weight is under 2.5kg (those who uses pounds, do your math by yourself)
----You can check your shipping cost at following link.
----http://ems.epost.go.kr/front.EmsDeliveryDelivery09.postal
- We will not accept any undervalue request.

How's this sounds?
Any good?


Quote from: zefyr on Thu, 13 October 2016, 04:51:11
Quote from: hkf on Wed, 12 October 2016, 16:51:19
Can we buy plate + pcb only?

I don't see why not at this point.
But as always, nothing set firmly yet.

Whether I buy one of the B-stocks or just a backup pcb/plate depends on the price. Any idea how much spare PCB+Plates would cost?

I wasn't in the massdrop so I don't know what the retail for those was.

We have rough plan for releasing PCB and Plate at Massdrop price. which is 55USD for PCB and 35USD for plate.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #409 on: Thu, 13 October 2016, 23:38:25 »
Quote from: adamski07 on Thu, 13 October 2016, 22:42:30

Quote from: alienman82 on Thu, 13 October 2016, 22:14:24
Quote from: adamski07 on Thu, 13 October 2016, 21:54:30
Love this board. My new daily!  :thumb:

Show Image


looks like that livestream one?  I like the clear housing on it.  I'm building mine right now actually just taking a break :)

Correct. too lazy to setup the livestream again so I decided to finish the build without livestreaming it again.  :p
Quote from: juahenza on Thu, 13 October 2016, 22:22:34
Quote from: adamski07 on Thu, 13 October 2016, 21:54:30
Love this board. My new daily!  :thumb:

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very nice picture  :thumb:

thanks! Here's another one.

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OMG...
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Offline alienman82

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[Oddforge] VE.A
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #411 on: Fri, 14 October 2016, 13:37:56 »
How many switches are required for a normal ansi layout on this? I counted but want to make sure I was correct, I came up with 97.
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Offline RobotMalcolmX

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #413 on: Fri, 14 October 2016, 14:10:39 »
Quote from: alienman82 on Fri, 14 October 2016, 13:54:44
Quote from: RobotMalcolmX on Fri, 14 October 2016, 13:37:56
How many switches are required for a normal ansi layout on this? I counted but want to make sure I was correct, I came up with 97.

that's how many massdrop gives you.  I had what I thought was 98 switches, but I had two extra.  I probably counted wrong.  100 is definitely save

Thanks friendo.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #414 on: Fri, 14 October 2016, 14:17:39 »
Every bag of switches has those 1 or 2 mangled switches, where that one pin is smashed up against the switch housing and you're like, man... do I even want to try fixing that? 

So I'd get an even 100.   ;)
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Offline Jaceun

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #415 on: Fri, 14 October 2016, 15:19:34 »
Anyone have an idea as to why my Macro keys, 1 and 2 are not powering in switch LEDs? Everything else works, including those keys when pressed.

Checked for the obvious stuff and now I need a little help. Known good LEDs, correct polarity and powered USB port on my PC if that matters.

I don't see any bad soldering or poor connections but maybe you all have better eyes.

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #416 on: Fri, 14 October 2016, 16:54:13 »
Quote from: Jaceun on Fri, 14 October 2016, 15:19:34
Anyone have an idea as to why my Macro keys, 1 and 2 are not powering in switch LEDs? Everything else works, including those keys when pressed.

Checked for the obvious stuff and now I need a little help. Known good LEDs, correct polarity and powered USB port on my PC if that matters.

I don't see any bad soldering or poor connections but maybe you all have better eyes.

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Read assembly guide please :)
http://oddforge.com/product/vea_assembly
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #418 on: Fri, 14 October 2016, 17:01:53 »
Quote from: zefyr on Fri, 14 October 2016, 16:54:13
Quote from: Jaceun on Fri, 14 October 2016, 15:19:34
Anyone have an idea as to why my Macro keys, 1 and 2 are not powering in switch LEDs? Everything else works, including those keys when pressed.

Checked for the obvious stuff and now I need a little help. Known good LEDs, correct polarity and powered USB port on my PC if that matters.

I don't see any bad soldering or poor connections but maybe you all have better eyes.

Show Image


Read assembly guide please :)
http://oddforge.com/product/vea_assembly

I feel a little silly, I see the F _ _ L pattern now. That part was confusing me before, but now it all makes sense. I just thought I had to have messed something up haha. Thank you zefyr.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
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Offline HouseofSuffering

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #420 on: Fri, 14 October 2016, 19:46:02 »
Looking forward to getting a second, "B" stock Ve.A!! :thumb:
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #421 on: Fri, 14 October 2016, 19:59:58 »
Quote from: HouseofSuffering on Fri, 14 October 2016, 19:46:02
Looking forward to getting a second, "B" stock Ve.A!! :thumb:

Sad I will only be able to have a "B" stock VE.A =( these pictures are amazing though
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Offline Slash Emperor

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #422 on: Sat, 15 October 2016, 12:18:22 »
Missed out on the GB for this, so I'm definitely going to keep my eyes open for the B-stock.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #423 on: Mon, 17 October 2016, 08:05:30 »
Is there any information as to when you'll open up selling the b-stock parts/kits?
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #424 on: Mon, 17 October 2016, 09:05:42 »
Quote from: RobotMalcolmX on Mon, 17 October 2016, 08:05:30
Is there any information as to when you'll open up selling the b-stock parts/kits?

what he said ^
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #425 on: Tue, 18 October 2016, 18:14:45 »
I need one of those b-stock VE.As in my life!  :eek:
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Offline Goranth

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #426 on: Tue, 18 October 2016, 18:18:49 »
I'm going to have to watch this like a hawk.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #427 on: Tue, 18 October 2016, 18:22:58 »
Quote from: LDobler on Tue, 18 October 2016, 18:14:45
I need one of those b-stock VE.As in my life!  :eek:

At this point I will take any VE.A in my life at all.
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Offline litster

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #428 on: Tue, 18 October 2016, 19:41:52 »
Life is good with VE.A

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Offline commandlinedesign

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #429 on: Wed, 19 October 2016, 06:18:06 »
Wanted to show off my VE.A!



Album: http://imgur.com/a/yTssL
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Offline RobotMalcolmX

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #430 on: Wed, 19 October 2016, 08:48:38 »
This is where I would post my VE.A

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Offline aaron6301

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #431 on: Wed, 19 October 2016, 10:26:47 »
Received my replacement plates for Zefyr which means I can finally get around to building this thing :thumb:

Planned build:
  • Silver VE.A w/Black Plate
  • 62g - Gateron Linear Clears, Lubed
  • Transparent stabs, Lubed & Clipped
  • GMK Classic Retro
  • KK Miso Snackey or HWS Copper/Red Keythulu
Just waiting on resistors for the indicator cluster but I think I could manage without them for the time being. I'll post potato quality pics when I get around to building it this weekend.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #432 on: Wed, 19 October 2016, 11:54:29 »
Quote from: aaron6301 on Wed, 19 October 2016, 10:26:47
  • Transparent stabs, Lubed & Clipped

Are there any transparent stabs that need to be clipped? The only ones I've seen thus far were Vintage style, meaning they don't need to be clipped.
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Offline aaron6301

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #433 on: Wed, 19 October 2016, 12:49:01 »
Quote from: kawasaki161 on Wed, 19 October 2016, 11:54:29
Quote from: aaron6301 on Wed, 19 October 2016, 10:26:47
  • Transparent stabs, Lubed & Clipped

Are there any transparent stabs that need to be clipped? The only ones I've seen thus far were Vintage style, meaning they don't need to be clipped.
Not entirely sure tbh. I've clipped the old fashioned black ones and assumed the transparent variant needed the same treatment. They should be arriving this Friday so can't really confirm till I have them in my possession.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #434 on: Thu, 20 October 2016, 01:26:25 »
Announcement from oddforge

We set a mailing list for B-stock GB.
Subscribe it if you need to be notified at important events.

http://eepurl.com/ckXnGD

* We will announce here, GH, as always *
« Last Edit: Thu, 20 October 2016, 02:15:43 by zefyr »
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #435 on: Thu, 20 October 2016, 08:16:50 »
That's great! Thanks for the mailing list, now I can relax a little.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #436 on: Thu, 20 October 2016, 08:40:48 »
Leaving the country for a few days next week, never have I been so torn.

Won't have access to email most likely RIP me.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #437 on: Thu, 20 October 2016, 11:03:00 »
Quote from: zefyr on Thu, 20 October 2016, 01:26:25
Announcement from oddforge

We set a mailing list for B-stock GB.
Subscribe it if you need to be notified at important events.

http://eepurl.com/ckXnGD

* We will announce here, GH, as always *

How much stock do you have?

Will i be able to buy parts individually, or only as an entire keyboard? I'm only interested in the PCB, and ideally whatever parts it takes to assemble the PCB.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #438 on: Thu, 20 October 2016, 13:47:30 »
Quote from: Norman_the_Owl on Thu, 20 October 2016, 11:03:00
Quote from: zefyr on Thu, 20 October 2016, 01:26:25
Announcement from oddforge

We set a mailing list for B-stock GB.
Subscribe it if you need to be notified at important events.

http://eepurl.com/ckXnGD

* We will announce here, GH, as always *

How much stock do you have?

Will i be able to buy parts individually, or only as an entire keyboard? I'm only interested in the PCB, and ideally whatever parts it takes to assemble the PCB.

Why only the PCB? Building your own case?
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #439 on: Thu, 20 October 2016, 14:13:43 »
Quote from: MandrewDavis on Thu, 20 October 2016, 13:47:30
Quote from: Norman_the_Owl on Thu, 20 October 2016, 11:03:00
Quote from: zefyr on Thu, 20 October 2016, 01:26:25
Announcement from oddforge

We set a mailing list for B-stock GB.
Subscribe it if you need to be notified at important events.

http://eepurl.com/ckXnGD

* We will announce here, GH, as always *

How much stock do you have?

Will i be able to buy parts individually, or only as an entire keyboard? I'm only interested in the PCB, and ideally whatever parts it takes to assemble the PCB.

Why only the PCB? Building your own case?

I don't want a plate because I'm going alps, and i need to make my own anyways. I don't want the case because I don't want to spend 350 dollars right now. 55 for the PCB (plus shipping of course) is a much more swallowable price. I'll make a sandwich case out of acrylic when i have the cash
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #440 on: Thu, 20 October 2016, 18:05:13 »
Quote from: MandrewDavis on Thu, 20 October 2016, 13:47:30
Quote from: Norman_the_Owl on Thu, 20 October 2016, 11:03:00
Quote from: zefyr on Thu, 20 October 2016, 01:26:25
Announcement from oddforge

We set a mailing list for B-stock GB.
Subscribe it if you need to be notified at important events.

http://eepurl.com/ckXnGD

* We will announce here, GH, as always *

How much stock do you have?

Will i be able to buy parts individually, or only as an entire keyboard? I'm only interested in the PCB, and ideally whatever parts it takes to assemble the PCB.

Why only the PCB? Building your own case?

The case is rather cost-prohitibitive for many of us.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #441 on: Fri, 21 October 2016, 00:58:03 »
Quote from: Norman_the_Owl on Thu, 20 October 2016, 11:03:00
Quote from: zefyr on Thu, 20 October 2016, 01:26:25
Announcement from oddforge

We set a mailing list for B-stock GB.
Subscribe it if you need to be notified at important events.

http://eepurl.com/ckXnGD

* We will announce here, GH, as always *

How much stock do you have?

Will i be able to buy parts individually, or only as an entire keyboard? I'm only interested in the PCB, and ideally whatever parts it takes to assemble the PCB.

We have around 20 B-stock.
And for indv parts, I don't see why not by now.
We have stock PCB and plates.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #442 on: Fri, 21 October 2016, 05:44:58 »
Awesome, thanks Zefyr. You've created a killer product, I hope i can get my hands on a PCB.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #443 on: Fri, 21 October 2016, 13:10:48 »
Wondering what the PCB crowd are looking at in terms of cases for this as I'm tempted to go that route as well.

This could probably become a solid mass-produced keyboard were it to have a less expensive case.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #444 on: Fri, 21 October 2016, 13:33:16 »
I'm going to go for an acrylic sandwich case, the top layer will probably be a different material though, as an acrylic alps plate is apparently easier said than done
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #445 on: Fri, 21 October 2016, 14:07:56 »
Here is the problem with acrylic - it cracks. Just from looking at the alps plate DXF file, anyone wanting to build a case where the halves fit together like the VE.A, there is only a 1.65mm (2.4mm for cherry without switchtop opening) cap between the switch-holes and the outside of the case. That isn't going to last long and is probably among other reasons Zefyr went with poly-carb.

For cherry, using 1.5mm acrylic for the plate and 3mm underneath for support similar to what winkeyless does. Anything alps needs a metal plate, assuming nobody wants to hotglue their precious switches in.

Just my thoughts, maybe someone else is thinking outside the box.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #446 on: Fri, 21 October 2016, 14:31:43 »
There have been Alps boards with plastic plates before though. My APC TH-5539 has a plastic place that's pretty solid, though I think it has a lot of ribbing and thickened areas to reinforce it. Acrylic is too brittle, I'd say. Maybe 3D printed and reinforced plastic would work.

Also, in regards to an acrylic case, the VE.A'S predecessor was all acrylic.

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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #447 on: Fri, 21 October 2016, 15:05:27 »
I'm worried I am not going to be able to even afford the B-stock on these, let alone put it together with the 0 experience I have at this point being brand new to Mechanical Keyboards, and without any electronic component or soldering experience. But I am going to sure take my best shot at it because I am absolutely in love with the design of these. Really obsessed with what I imagine is an older version in a bronze/copper case with blue/teal lighting that haunts me it's so beautiful! Can't wait to get more info
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #448 on: Fri, 21 October 2016, 20:45:02 »
The gold case was a one-off by the way.
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Re: [Oddforge] VE.A
« Reply #449 on: Fri, 21 October 2016, 20:46:23 »
Quote from: Data on Fri, 21 October 2016, 20:45:02
The gold case was a one-off by the way.

Thanks for the heads up, I suspected it might be, if I can get one of the cases I'm pretty experienced with industrial coatings/paint, I think I can make it work
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