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Re: Silent Cherry g80-3000 launched ad CES
« Reply #50 on: Thu, 02 February 2017, 07:17:51 »
It's actually cheaper to buy a g80-3000 and replace the switches with their silent equivalent. No soldering involved. (I'm quite sure that the base of the switch isn't different from silent to standard reds/blacks).
How about roll over?

Surely it doesn't improve by replacing the switches :-P
Indeed, so switch swapping is only half of the job.
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Re: Silent Cherry g80-3000 launched ad CES
« Reply #51 on: Thu, 02 February 2017, 07:32:09 »
It's actually cheaper to buy a g80-3000 and replace the switches with their silent equivalent. No soldering involved. (I'm quite sure that the base of the switch isn't different from silent to standard reds/blacks).
How about roll over?

Surely it doesn't improve by replacing the switches :-P
Indeed, so switch swapping is only half of the job.

what job

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Re: Silent Cherry g80-3000 in ANSI layout launched ad CES, available from Q2/2017
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 02 February 2017, 07:35:02 »
Of building a NKRO with Silent MX.
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Re: Silent Cherry g80-3000 in ANSI layout launched ad CES, available from Q2/2017
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 02 February 2017, 08:54:26 »
Of building a NKRO with Silent MX.

but who wants nkro

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Re: Silent Cherry g80-3000 in ANSI layout launched ad CES, available from Q2/2017
« Reply #56 on: Fri, 03 February 2017, 02:50:59 »
Of building a NKRO with Silent MX.

but who wants nkro
Well, 6KRO at least.

There's already a version of the g80-3000 that has that, wansn't it mentioned in this thread? Or in another one about the silent switches.

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Re: Silent Cherry g80-3000 launched ad CES
« Reply #57 on: Sun, 05 February 2017, 17:23:14 »
Ugh, $149. I remember G80-3000 was €60 on Amazon.de a few years ago.

Tbh, these should be should for 100 euros instead of 150 but beggars can't be choosers.

It's actually cheaper to buy a g80-3000 and replace the switches with their silent equivalent. No soldering involved. (I'm quite sure that the base of the switch isn't different from silent to standard reds/blacks).

That's a really good idea, and the end result is a batch of MX Red switches that you can resell and get nearly all the money you spent on the silent switches back.

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Re: Silent Cherry g80-3000 in ANSI layout launched ad CES, available from Q2/2017
« Reply #58 on: Sun, 05 February 2017, 18:06:13 »
Well, I bought an old G80-11800 with the much rarer thick PBT, so I quashed my small Cherry crave ;) No need for this anymore lol.
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Re: Silent Cherry g80-3000 in ANSI layout launched ad CES, available from Q2/2017
« Reply #59 on: Fri, 10 February 2017, 16:22:32 »
Review with sound comparison (run it through Google translate)!


http://Https://www.mecha-blog.de/cherry-mx-board-silent-im-test/
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Re: Silent Cherry g80-3000 in ANSI layout launched ad CES, available from Q2/2017
« Reply #60 on: Fri, 10 February 2017, 23:34:12 »
Well I fulfilled my Cherry crave by buying a G80-11800, got it today actually. Very happy spending $35 rather than $150, and I get thick PBT!

Also vintage MX Brown is wayy nicer than modern. Smoother and way less bumpy.
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Re: Silent Cherry g80-3000 in ANSI layout launched ad CES, available from Q2/2017
« Reply #61 on: Sat, 11 February 2017, 02:13:48 »
A silent MK? I guess, if you're stuck in a cubicle somewhere... Can't think of any other reason to take so much of the fun out of it, though.
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Re: Silent Cherry g80-3000 in ANSI layout launched ad CES, available from Q2/2017
« Reply #62 on: Sat, 11 February 2017, 12:11:58 »
A silent MK? I guess, if you're stuck in a cubicle somewhere... Can't think of any other reason to take so much of the fun out of it, though.

I don't work in a quiet cubicle environment; I work in a room with five other dudes, noisy network switches, and oscillating tower fans, and my Pok3r with MX reds draws comments about how loud it is when I type on it. I've replaced it with a Pok3r with silent reds and nobody notices when I'm typing on it anymore.

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Re: Silent Cherry g80-3000 in ANSI layout available right now
« Reply #65 on: Wed, 29 March 2017, 06:15:55 »
Do you mind checking wheter the PCB is fixed or universal layout?
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Re: Silent Cherry g80-3000 launched ad CES
« Reply #66 on: Wed, 29 March 2017, 06:17:14 »
And the benefit of this over a Filco Majestouch-2 Silent board is...?
PCB mount, Cherry stabs and presumably thick POM keycaps. You may not prefer this, but I most certainly do.
Same. I haven't tried the Filco Silent but since Filco is plate mounted then I would type on another organ instead of a keyboard.
I'd love the smoothness and the sound level of the Silent Reds without the plate singing in A.
I'm new so maybe there is an explanation in another thread but I don't understand why Cherry doesn't make TKL boards and this thread reminded me that Cherry makes affordable boards which I won't buy because I don't need/want the numpad.
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Re: Silent Cherry g80-3000 in ANSI layout available right now
« Reply #67 on: Wed, 29 March 2017, 06:29:17 »
out of stock on amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Cherry-G80-3494LWCEU-0-G80-3494-Keyboard-Switches/dp/B06XQN9J15/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1490784964&sr=8-4&keywords=g80-3494

https://www.amazon.com/Cherry-G80-3494LWCEU-2-G80-3494-Keyboard-Switches/dp/B06XQQ5G91/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1490784964&sr=8-2&keywords=g80-3494
That $149 price tag seems high to me, I'm curious if it'll drop once stock hits.

They could at least throw in doubleshot caps versus lasered caps.

Also I just can't get over all that wasted case space cherry uses on this style of board.

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Re: Silent Cherry g80-3000 in ANSI layout available right now
« Reply #68 on: Wed, 29 March 2017, 08:24:29 »
Do you mind checking wheter the PCB is fixed or universal layout?

I'm not going to buy it, and about me asking it to cherry.... I think that I'm blacklisted :-D

I didn't even know that cherry had universal layout pcb, I suppose that this means that all the treaces are there, and that you need to desolder and solder again a couple of switches. If it is of any help, the pcb is the same of the g80-3494 n-key rollover that has been available since at least 5 years.

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Re: Silent Cherry g80-3000 in ANSI layout available right now
« Reply #69 on: Wed, 29 March 2017, 08:26:41 »
out of stock on amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Cherry-G80-3494LWCEU-0-G80-3494-Keyboard-Switches/dp/B06XQN9J15/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1490784964&sr=8-4&keywords=g80-3494

https://www.amazon.com/Cherry-G80-3494LWCEU-2-G80-3494-Keyboard-Switches/dp/B06XQQ5G91/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1490784964&sr=8-2&keywords=g80-3494
That $149 price tag seems high to me, I'm curious if it'll drop once stock hits.

They could at least throw in doubleshot caps versus lasered caps.

Also I just can't get over all that wasted case space cherry uses on this style of board.

I don't even know if the keyboards have ever been available or not. To me it looks like a placeholder with the mrsp price. I've seen the silent version sold on HK sites for about $110, so I'm quite sure that the price will be lower. You must also consider that corsair sells a silent keyboard for $80, so I think that cherry could at least match that :-)

The black version traditionally has very thick pom keycaps, but letters are lasered - painted; the beige version has thin keycaps, at least this is true for usual g80-1800 and g80-3000.

http://www.kernelsoftware.com/products/catalog/cherry.html
$111
G80-3494LTCEU-2    BLK MX SILNT BLK SW US INTL 104 KEY LAYOUT INCL USB ADAP TAA COMP    New    2.60    $111.06    $111.06    Email
G80-3494LWCEU-0    LIGHT GREY MX SILENT RED SW US INTL 104KY LAYOUT INCL USB ADAP TAA    New    2.60    $111.06    $111.06    Email
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Re: Silent Cherry g80-3000 in ANSI layout available right now
« Reply #70 on: Wed, 29 March 2017, 08:51:55 »
Do you mind checking wheter the PCB is fixed or universal layout?
I didn't even know that cherry had universal layout pcb.
They don't, in fact, in the earlier MX3000 models, that's why I'm curious to see if they thought about that, yet.
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Re: Silent Cherry g80-3000 in ANSI layout available right now
« Reply #71 on: Wed, 29 March 2017, 09:48:52 »
Do you mind checking wheter the PCB is fixed or universal layout?
I didn't even know that cherry had universal layout pcb.
They don't, in fact, in the earlier MX3000 models, that's why I'm curious to see if they thought about that, yet.

They didn't even think that they could shrink drastically their inventory by selling a keyboard that has legends with symbols only (no text) and by including in the same package many of the national variant keycaps.

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Re: Silent Cherry g80-3000 in ANSI layout available right now
« Reply #73 on: Wed, 26 April 2017, 08:43:46 »
If that's the same G80-3000 chassis as the old one with Blues they have a lot of nerve.  It is extremely flimsy and makes a MagicForce feel like a more expensive product in comparison.

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Re: Silent Cherry g80-3000 in ANSI layout available right now
« Reply #74 on: Wed, 26 April 2017, 08:46:45 »
 Meh.

Case is too big and lasered caps suck.

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Re: Silent Cherry g80-3000 in ANSI layout available right now
« Reply #75 on: Wed, 26 April 2017, 11:51:22 »
Meh.

Case is too big and lasered caps suck.

It's probably the only PCB mounted keyboard. Infinite modding possibilities. Can't live without It.

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Re: Silent Cherry g80-3000 in ANSI layout available right now
« Reply #76 on: Thu, 08 June 2017, 18:52:21 »
I just bought a G80-3000 silent from Provantage, who stopped carrying it right after I ordered it.  It was just over $100 shipped.  Maybe they thought that fulfilling my order was too much of a PITA, so they dropped it?  My other keyboards have been mostly MX browns (Filco, Leopold, Das Keyboard, CM Quickfire), but I have had a Realforce and a Type Heaven.  At first this thing felt really mushy and cheap and I did't like it at all, but after using it for a week it's really grown on me.  The keys have a nice soft landing when you bottom them out.  They don't have that "pop" that Topres do, but it's still a nice feeling.  I use it in my office, so I like how quiet it is, although my coworkers never complained about my MX brown keyboards.  The case is definitely cheap-feeling, but it reminds me of my old Apple EKII, and the POM keycaps have a nice soft feel to them.  The one mod I had to make was replacing the space bar's spring with one from a clear switch.  I tried a grey spring, but it made the space bar feel too stiff.  With the stock red spring, it was too light and I double spaced too often.  I think this board is a keeper, but I might consider replacing the caps with some PBT ones at some point, and I want to do something about the Num Lock and Caps Lock lights bleeding into the other indicator windows.

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Re: Silent Cherry g80-3000 in ANSI layout available right now
« Reply #77 on: Sat, 10 June 2017, 18:54:04 »
I just bought a G80-3000 silent from Provantage, who stopped carrying it right after I ordered it.  It was just over $100 shipped.  Maybe they thought that fulfilling my order was too much of a PITA, so they dropped it?  My other keyboards have been mostly MX browns (Filco, Leopold, Das Keyboard, CM Quickfire), but I have had a Realforce and a Type Heaven.  At first this thing felt really mushy and cheap and I did't like it at all, but after using it for a week it's really grown on me.  The keys have a nice soft landing when you bottom them out.  They don't have that "pop" that Topres do, but it's still a nice feeling.  I use it in my office, so I like how quiet it is, although my coworkers never complained about my MX brown keyboards.  The case is definitely cheap-feeling, but it reminds me of my old Apple EKII, and the POM keycaps have a nice soft feel to them.  The one mod I had to make was replacing the space bar's spring with one from a clear switch.  I tried a grey spring, but it made the space bar feel too stiff.  With the stock red spring, it was too light and I double spaced too often.  I think this board is a keeper, but I might consider replacing the caps with some PBT ones at some point, and I want to do something about the Num Lock and Caps Lock lights bleeding into the other indicator windows.

Thanks.for your review!