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Title: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(GB ended, TYVM)
Post by: ilouis_07 on Mon, 28 October 2019, 14:19:06
Hey, all the friends on Geekhack.
Let me introduce KN2.10² to you, Designed by THESISCAMPER.

(https://imgur.com/0VCx8bL.png)


Specs for Kit:
Make with 6063 aluminum for the case and brass for the weight.
4mm alum plate in default kit
Sandwich Mounting Designed.
The typing angle is 5 degrees.
Fixed layout PCB with type C connector(QMK).
Top case has 3 options: (Yellow color just for example)
WK
(https://imgur.com/PGMePXj.png)

WKL
(https://imgur.com/t1T1KYl.png)

and HHKB
(https://imgur.com/Ji4pesk.png)

Extra add on:
Extra Fixed layout PCB
Extra 4mm Fixed layout Plate
(https://imgur.com/KDwDDsJ.png)

Extra 1.5mm Universal Plate
Extra 1.5mm Universal Half Plate
(https://imgur.com/tKHqKXS.png)

Something More about the Plate, this is not a normal plate but well designed and milled "Accent Plate":
(https://imgur.com/mqz4q6j.png)
Default Kit comes with this 4mm plate, with the thinner edge(accent) designed.

Also for the 1.5mm plate, there are A LOT of CNC works behind the scenes, with the front view:
(https://imgur.com/TIBAmXp.png)
and the bottom view:
(https://imgur.com/XoAJJ2N.png)

Exploded View:
(https://imgur.com/AO1gvns.png)

Colors Option:
1) E yellow + Black + E white
(https://imgur.com/GyInO0U.png)
2) Dark Grey + Cyan + Dark Grey
(https://imgur.com/wRxq22y.png)
3) Silver + Dark Red + Silver
(https://imgur.com/ajQvpxX.png)
4) E Black + Dark Red + E Black
(https://imgur.com/MEJkDjs.png)

Group Buy Timeline:
Oct 28th to Nov 2nd.

EST Shipping:
within 60 days.
The shipping invoice will send out before the item is ready for the shipment.

Shipping Courier:
FedEx 2-3 days global-shipped, shipped from China. (With 60% discount, It is a collaborating discount price offered by our factory.)

Last but not least, Prototype and Typing Sound Video:
(https://imgur.com/YdsGUn7.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/XCYi1wR.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/cwBkI5T.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/LJ6Wufn.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/W5e5IFf.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/w14P2dX.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/EL6ZZrY.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/GaMbQN9.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/yvDI20c.jpg)

Linear Build, 205g0 lubed tangerines.

Tactile Build, MD stock Holy Panda.


You can Join the GroupBuy through:
https://ilumkb.com/collections/kb-kn2-10 (https://ilumkb.com/collections/kb-kn2-10)
Please note that all the prices listed are SGD. (1SGD = 0.73USD)



Thank you for your time and hope you love our project.

Our Discord Server:
https://discord.gg/SyzhtQf
My Instagram for more updates about this project:
https://www.instagram.com/ilumkb_com/
Title: Re: KN2.10², by THESISCAMPER x ILUMKB.
Post by: ilouis_07 on Mon, 28 October 2019, 14:20:03
29th of Oct, Exploded View Pic added.
31st of Oct, More Renders added:
(https://imgur.com/832Evk4.png)
(https://imgur.com/A3agm5c.png)
(https://imgur.com/NIiWle4.png)
(https://imgur.com/0BEa7w7.png)
(https://imgur.com/6eHz4hO.png)
(https://imgur.com/aEGZ2fI.png)
(https://imgur.com/cELYY4q.png)
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.
Post by: infiniti on Mon, 28 October 2019, 18:31:53
Also, as a reminder to all, CAVEAT EMPTOR (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36773.0) :triangle:

GLWGB! :thumb:
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 28 October 2019, 18:45:58
Ooo I was wondering why an extra plate cost that much, makes sense now. Is the pcb proprietary too? Who made it?
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.
Post by: Mcnos on Mon, 28 October 2019, 18:47:19
Will we be able to replace the default plate that comes with the kit?
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.
Post by: ilouis_07 on Mon, 28 October 2019, 19:27:40
Ooo I was wondering why an extra plate cost that much, makes sense now. Is the pcb proprietary too? Who made it?
Yeah, the plate has a lot of cnc works behind. For the PCB, DZ designed it, it is actually a simple version based on DZ60 PCB.
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.
Post by: ilouis_07 on Mon, 28 October 2019, 19:29:33
Will we be able to replace the default plate that comes with the kit?
Hey, sorry nope. The default plate is 4mm fixed-layout.
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.
Post by: suparnemo on Mon, 28 October 2019, 21:09:24
Will a DZ60RGB hotswap PCB fit? I want to use a hotswap PCB for convenience.
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.
Post by: ilouis_07 on Mon, 28 October 2019, 22:48:20
Will a DZ60RGB hotswap PCB fit? I want to use a hotswap PCB for convenience.
It should fit but not guaranteed since we have prepared PCB for the kit. The clearance we gave for KN is 2.3mm, hotswap pcb socket thickness is 2mm.
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.
Post by: kaisn on Tue, 29 October 2019, 07:34:41
Ordered mine :)
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 30 October 2019, 18:25:19
GMK Led Zep on black+red KN2.

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Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(More renders added/31st)
Post by: ilouis_07 on Thu, 31 October 2019, 04:31:51
More renders added. (GMK Led Zep and Solarized Dark)
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(More renders added/31st)
Post by: undeadtac on Thu, 31 October 2019, 06:08:15
Will there be a 65% version of this in the future?
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.
Post by: suparnemo on Thu, 31 October 2019, 11:45:35
It should fit but not guaranteed since we have prepared PCB for the kit. The clearance we gave for KN is 2.3mm, hotswap pcb socket thickness is 2mm.

Does this mean the total PCB thickness including sockets must be 2.3mm? Or just the clearance under the PCB?
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.
Post by: ilouis_07 on Fri, 01 November 2019, 10:26:30
It should fit but not guaranteed since we have prepared PCB for the kit. The clearance we gave for KN is 2.3mm, hotswap pcb socket thickness is 2mm.

Does this mean the total PCB thickness including sockets must be 2.3mm? Or just the clearance under the PCB?
It means all the component's thickness under the PCB must have to less than 2.3mm. From the datasheet, we can see the hot-swap socket thickness is 1.9mm, so it should fit but not guaranteed.
(https://imgur.com/S9fSbfm.png)
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(More renders added/31st)
Post by: ilouis_07 on Fri, 01 November 2019, 10:33:50
1st of Nov Update: Tomorrow GroupBuy will end at 24:00 SGT.
The pie chart shows the percentage of Colors and Layout for entire orders.
(https://imgur.com/eRMYlGm.png)
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(More renders added/31st)
Post by: Chaselicious17 on Fri, 01 November 2019, 20:27:29
Just got in late. This board really caught my eye. Is the 2 month turnaround what you're shooting for? Seems too good to be true :D

TBH I'm kinda burnt on huge waits/delays (still waiting on Xeno -.-)
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(More renders added/31st)
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 01 November 2019, 20:55:04
Just got in late. This board really caught my eye. Is the 2 month turnaround what you're shooting for? Seems too good to be true :D

TBH I'm kinda burnt on huge waits/delays (still waiting on Xeno -.-)

It is indeed what we're shooting for, based on the factory's estimate. Thank you for the support!
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(More renders added/31st)
Post by: thesiscamper on Sat, 02 November 2019, 05:30:19
Silver body with Cyan plate with Hyperfuse and XA Solaized Dark. Only a few hours left before the buy closes :)

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Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(More renders added/31st)
Post by: ilouis_07 on Sat, 02 November 2019, 06:32:00
Just got in late. This board really caught my eye. Is the 2 month turnaround what you're shooting for? Seems too good to be true :D

TBH I'm kinda burnt on huge waits/delays (still waiting on Xeno -.-)
Thank you for joining the group buy, we hope we can fulfill it in 2 months. 
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(GB ended, TYVM)
Post by: ilouis_07 on Sat, 02 November 2019, 11:27:22
KN2.10² GB ended, 101 boards sold. Thank you everyone for supporting us!
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(GB ended, TYVM)
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 02 November 2019, 11:27:47
101 nice!

Went for the e-black.
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(GB ended, TYVM)
Post by: Bubblegum on Sat, 02 November 2019, 11:57:47
Really wanted to get in on this, but unexpected economic troubles from nowhere. Maybe next HHKB board. Good luck with the GB. Looks great :)
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(GB ended, TYVM)
Post by: catamscott on Sat, 02 November 2019, 13:24:13
didn't realize this went to gb already, anybody know what the prices were? the gb site doesn't show
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(GB ended, TYVM)
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 02 November 2019, 13:57:49
didn't realize this went to gb already, anybody know what the prices were? the gb site doesn't show

about 314 usd
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(GB ended, TYVM)
Post by: Chaselicious17 on Sat, 02 November 2019, 14:37:37
101 boards! Awesome! best of luck to the runner, maker, and everyone else directly involved.

Got in for that yellow and black. Really excited overall. Will updates be posted here in the forum?
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(GB ended, TYVM)
Post by: thesiscamper on Sat, 02 November 2019, 18:25:19
101 boards! Awesome! best of luck to the runner, maker, and everyone else directly involved.

Got in for that yellow and black. Really excited overall. Will updates be posted here in the forum?

Thank you for joining! Updates will be posted here but you'll get more timely updates from Louis' discord server, TianYue_Lab.
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(GB ended, TYVM)
Post by: ilouis_07 on Wed, 27 November 2019, 00:05:26
27th of Nov Updates:
Nov 29th Updates for KN:
I still want to improve the finishing for the ano kn2.10, actually I brought the prototypes to Oct Singapore meet-up and ppl all gave very good feedback. I realized that when you zoom in the prototype pics. You can see the sandblasted marks. It feels very smooth but looks rough. Me and thesiscamper worked on this from Oct till last week.
Before the improvement:
(https://imgur.com/8JTAVV8.png)
OId vs our New ano finishing:
(https://imgur.com/3sX7kMx.png)

Our Final Ano sample:
(https://imgur.com/NlKKLXU.png)
Silver is KN2.10, Dark Grey is my personal collection(one of the smoothest kb IMO)

Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(GB ended, TYVM)
Post by: beekey on Thu, 02 January 2020, 13:52:54
Any update? Still looking for the 60day after GB close date?
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(GB ended, TYVM)
Post by: 8six753o9 on Thu, 02 January 2020, 14:29:01
Any update? Still looking for the 60day after GB close date?
Not sure why iLouis didn't post this here yet, but they have begun collecting shipping information yesterday.  Quote from ilouis on Discord:

Hey KN fellows, happy new year and we are collecting the shipping info and send out the shipping invoice for KN2.10 soon.
Please fill in this form if you have joined KN2.10 GB,

https://forms.gle/9nxzKociCfdj1R6D8
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(GB ended, TYVM)
Post by: beekey on Fri, 03 January 2020, 01:51:19
Any update? Still looking for the 60day after GB close date?
Not sure why iLouis didn't post this here yet, but they have begun collecting shipping information yesterday.  Quote from ilouis on Discord:

Hey KN fellows, happy new year and we are collecting the shipping info and send out the shipping invoice for KN2.10 soon.
Please fill in this form if you have joined KN2.10 GB,

https://forms.gle/9nxzKociCfdj1R6D8
Thank you for forwarding this.  :thumb:
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(GB ended, TYVM)
Post by: kaisn on Sat, 18 January 2020, 13:12:42
Arrived saturday and today I build my little beauty.
Very nice groupbuy Louis! Incredible speed and QC.

Awesome design @THESISCAMPER

I will join future GBs run by you without any worry in the world  :thumb:
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(GB ended, TYVM)
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 18 January 2020, 17:53:43
very nice board and one of the smoothest keyboard GBs i've ever been a part of.
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(GB ended, TYVM)
Post by: d00deitsnik on Sun, 19 January 2020, 12:12:22
My board arrived, but I didnt realize I was out of stabs. I'm so excited to build mine tho!
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(GB ended, TYVM)
Post by: GwenAlli on Sun, 19 January 2020, 19:47:54
Received mine 2 days after it shipped, super quick! Haven't had a chance to do anything other than test the PCB and inspect the finish. This thing is definitely high quality!
Hopefully I'll have time to build it soon... I just have to decide on what switches I want to use lol.
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(GB ended, TYVM)
Post by: jshufelt on Sun, 19 January 2020, 20:32:17
Easily one of the best GBs I've been in, for speed of execution, care in QC, and quality of result.  Thank you!

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Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(GB ended, TYVM)
Post by: MK47 on Thu, 23 January 2020, 15:03:44
Will there be a R2 in the future?
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(GB ended, TYVM)
Post by: suparnemo on Thu, 23 January 2020, 15:09:27
Will there be a R2 in the future?

There should be extras at some point soon. I don't think there is any specific info on when though.
Title: Re: KN2.10², Designing to be Simple.(GB ended, TYVM)
Post by: mudcakehoney on Mon, 15 February 2021, 07:00:22
Hey people, if anyone I’d looking to sell their KN2.10 please pm me, I’m interested in purchasing one. Thank you!