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Title: Global Population
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 30 September 2014, 12:26:09
I have a feeling this is going to become a HUGE issue in this century.

http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/earths-population-unmanageable/

As remarkable as medical science is, it's having an overall negative impact on our world as a whole. Darwinism is extinct within the human race, and we hold to the unrealistic values that "all life is created equal" and "every life is sacred" (so long as it's human, that is) which has inevitably lead us to this issue.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 30 September 2014, 12:29:10
#selectivebreeding

....oh wait that's isn't right.....
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 September 2014, 12:33:35
Hahahaha....

It is completely managable..

The trouble today , is simply how people view death, their own lineage( genetic importance), and the true value of the OLD..


The people with LESS will naturally inherit the resources and wealth of those with MORE..  this is a fact...

and the people with MORE, will naturally exponentially decrease in population once their livelihood is completely secure..


This cycle will continue, until Everyone's livelihood is secure..  at this point no one will be motivated to do anything.


This is then a Utopian experiment..


The result of which... We already have a good idea of what's going to happen, As it has already happened..

But.. also...

experiments with MICE on utopia..


Some will literally NOT do anything, (tp4-s) sit around and be pretty..

Some will become militant, and aggressively attack anyone with zero purpose..

Mothers will abandon children at a great rate, and some will choose not to have them..
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: The Mad Professor on Tue, 30 September 2014, 12:34:20
Thoughts?

The minute I saw this graph (specifically the first line of data), I called bull**** and closed the article.

(http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Total-Population-Chart.png) (http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Total-Population-Chart.png)
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 September 2014, 12:36:18
Thoughts?

The minute I saw this graph (specifically the first line of data), I called bull**** and closed the article.

(http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Total-Population-Chart.png) (http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Total-Population-Chart.png)

I'm not sure how they got those...  counting all the dead babies i guess..
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 30 September 2014, 12:47:10
Does anyone really think we'll still be around in 100 years?
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 30 September 2014, 12:53:30
Thoughts?

The minute I saw this graph (specifically the first line of data), I called bull**** and closed the article.

(http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Total-Population-Chart.png) (http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Total-Population-Chart.png)

That sir, is a table, not a graph.

And yes, it's a bull**** table.



THIS, is a graph:

(http://bixby.berkeley.edu/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/current-pop-jpeg.JPG)
Source: http://bixby.berkeley.edu/research/population/



Does anyone really think we'll still be around in 100 years?

My kids might be... if I ever have kids...
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 September 2014, 13:05:50
Thoughts?

The minute I saw this graph (specifically the first line of data), I called bull**** and closed the article.

(http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Total-Population-Chart.png) (http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Total-Population-Chart.png)

That sir, is a table, not a graph.

And yes, it's a bull**** table.



THIS, is a graph:

Show Image
(http://bixby.berkeley.edu/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/current-pop-jpeg.JPG)

Source: http://bixby.berkeley.edu/research/population/







Why you gotta be so haughty-tooty about it..

Lot's of people don't take skool seriously.  And they live fulfilling and complete lives.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 30 September 2014, 13:09:00


Why you gotta be so haughty-tooty about it..

Lot's of people don't take skool seriously.  And they live fulfilling and complete lives.

Why does your ignorance not surprise me...

I didn't mean to be all haughty-tooty... was simply trying to express my views, and provide more credible information to support it.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 September 2014, 13:10:33


Why you gotta be so haughty-tooty about it..

Lot's of people don't take skool seriously.  And they live fulfilling and complete lives.

Why does your ignorance not surprise me...

why does you use \ignorance\ in the wrong place..

Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 30 September 2014, 13:21:00
Attention: kindly disregard anything tp4 says. It's not contributing anything of value.

Please continue with the discussion.

Thanks,
OP.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 30 September 2014, 13:43:42
They start out talking about overpopulation and carrying capacity. Okay, sure. Then we get into waste and environmental impacts. I guess? And the only thing that they managed to "conclude" is that we should consume fewer things, which has nothing to do with overpopulation... Yes they did mention adopting, which is great, but the scope of this article seems ill-defined.

My thoughts on the subject are that this is an interesting thing to think about, but utterly useless to try to change. I have no hope of telling people to stop making babies, and frankly I don't care too much anyway. There is so much room in this world to support more people as is. We aren't lacking space. We may have resource issues, but who knows what discoveries are around the corner. Just look at how much impact the Haber-Bosch process for ammonia production had on carrying capacity. 100 years ago you could throw out all the fancy numbers you wanted but it doesn't matter because the whole situation changed.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: The Mad Professor on Tue, 30 September 2014, 13:46:11
Thoughts?

The minute I saw this graph (specifically the first line of data), I called bull**** and closed the article.

(http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Total-Population-Chart.png) (http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Total-Population-Chart.png)

That sir, is a table, not a graph.

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll93sx1YWR1qafrh6.gif)
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: paicrai on Tue, 30 September 2014, 14:17:59
just nuke russia and get darwinism back into america
problem solved
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: iri on Tue, 30 September 2014, 14:39:55
just wash away norway. it's irrelevant anyway.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 September 2014, 14:40:04
They start out talking about overpopulation and carrying capacity. Okay, sure. Then we get into waste and environmental impacts. I guess? And the only thing that they managed to "conclude" is that we should consume fewer things, which has nothing to do with overpopulation... Yes they did mention adopting, which is great, but the scope of this article seems ill-defined.

My thoughts on the subject are that this is an interesting thing to think about, but utterly useless to try to change. I have no hope of telling people to stop making babies, and frankly I don't care too much anyway. There is so much room in this world to support more people as is. We aren't lacking space. We may have resource issues, but who knows what discoveries are around the corner. Just look at how much impact the Haber-Bosch process for ammonia production had on carrying capacity. 100 years ago you could throw out all the fancy numbers you wanted but it doesn't matter because the whole situation changed.


I file it under problem that will solve itself..   the solution may be starvation/ extreme inflation / extreme poverty/ Lots of people die / war..

But.. in the end.. all sorted... (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/hehe-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862507)
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 September 2014, 14:41:13
just nuke russia and get darwinism back into america
problem solved

what? why bother..

The only reason Russia is on the map, is because they got oil, which putin is selling..   Once that's done with, the land itself is wholly unfavorable..  seriously, that's it... done.. no more russia.. everyone there's gonna just move away..
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: iri on Tue, 30 September 2014, 14:42:21
my location label all of a sudden becomes relevant.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 September 2014, 14:54:41
my location label all of a sudden becomes relevant.

the only other thing left there is Timber...

I guess, if they make the proper transition to financial services, they can hold their own..  but I highly doubt they can out do the big players (Germany, USA) already in play...

Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 30 September 2014, 15:14:35
Something that would solve some of the problems is Soylent Green.

Or a (global) government conspiracy to invent a disease to wipe out a certain percentage of the population.  Or has that already happened?
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 30 September 2014, 15:16:58
Something that would solve some of the problems is Soylent Green.

Or a (global) government conspiracy to invent a disease to wipe out a certain percentage of the population.  Or has that already happened?

It's definitely been attempted.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 September 2014, 15:19:15
Something that would solve some of the problems is Soylent Green.

Or a (global) government conspiracy to invent a disease to wipe out a certain percentage of the population.  Or has that already happened?

Um... A population decrease is not the answer... that doesn't affect the fact that the population will Inevitably decrease..


SOYLENT is a GREAT idea....  I can't wait... seriously..  We don't even have to use PEOPLE... 

the movie used that for shock value,, but PEOPLE just as any other animal protein is extremely resources intensive vs Vegetable protein.



As for government created disease to kill population.. also unnecessary, because we have enough diseases that's already killing lots and lots and lots of people...

Hell.. one could argue, the Junkfood industry is killing people with diabetes..  So instead of people growing to old age to collect social securities, they die from eating..


Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: digi on Tue, 30 September 2014, 15:19:44
I blame sister wives & the State of Utah.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 September 2014, 15:23:06
I blame sister wives & the State of Utah.


Polygamy.. hmm....  well....... there's nothing wrong with polygamy IMHO...

The regulation is unnecessary...

How many women will Actually choose a polygamous arrangement,  seriously, how many...  if/when they do,  what difference will it make as long as they raise healthy kids...


Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: digi on Tue, 30 September 2014, 15:27:27
I blame sister wives & the State of Utah.


Polygamy.. hmm....  well....... there's nothing wrong with polygamy IMHO...

The regulation is unnecessary...

How many women will Actually choose a polygamous arrangement,  seriously, how many...  if/when they do,  what difference will it make as long as they raise healthy kids...




(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Jim_Bob_%26_Michelle_Duggar.jpg)
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: slip84 on Tue, 30 September 2014, 15:28:13
This is super relevant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_Human_Extinction_Movement

I often joke with my friends that we should stop reproducing for like 15 - 20 years. You know? Maybe 25 or 50. Yeah, 50 years. Just no more kids. Movie theatres would be so much better.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 September 2014, 15:33:36
This is super relevant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_Human_Extinction_Movement

I often joke with my friends that we should stop reproducing for like 15 - 20 years. You know? Maybe 25 or 50. Yeah, 50 years. Just no more kids. Movie theatres would be so much better.

that doesn't make any sense..

If EVERYONE  stopped reproducing from TODAY  for 50 years...

Then, the entire population that will START reproducing will be at least 50 Years old...


That will certainly spiral since fertility @ 50 is uber-bad, and everyone will be dead, because believe it or not.. Population growth is still the main driver of Productivity, and all basic services are held up by the younger population.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 30 September 2014, 15:35:21
This is super relevant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_Human_Extinction_Movement

I often joke with my friends that we should stop reproducing for like 15 - 20 years. You know? Maybe 25 or 50. Yeah, 50 years. Just no more kids. Movie theatres would be so much better.

If everyone was strictly homosexual with no commingling we wouldn't have reproduction problems. So to be environmentally correct sex with the opposite gender must be banned immediately. Problem solved.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 September 2014, 15:37:06
This is super relevant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_Human_Extinction_Movement

I often joke with my friends that we should stop reproducing for like 15 - 20 years. You know? Maybe 25 or 50. Yeah, 50 years. Just no more kids. Movie theatres would be so much better.

If everyone was strictly homosexual with no commingling we wouldn't have reproduction problems. So to be environmentally correct sex with the opposite gender must be banned immediately. Problem solved.

Spam... Based on your most recent posts,  I can only conclude that you are an unhappy gay Bear in a hetero-marriage..

what's going on br0... ?

(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/embarrassed2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862502)
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: slip84 on Tue, 30 September 2014, 15:37:50
This is super relevant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_Human_Extinction_Movement

I often joke with my friends that we should stop reproducing for like 15 - 20 years. You know? Maybe 25 or 50. Yeah, 50 years. Just no more kids. Movie theatres would be so much better.

If everyone was strictly homosexual with no commingling we wouldn't have reproduction problems. So to be environmentally correct sex with the opposite gender must be banned immediately. Problem solved.
You get it.

But seriously, put a moratorium on reproduction for a few years. Make it punishable by death.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 September 2014, 15:44:12
This is super relevant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_Human_Extinction_Movement

I often joke with my friends that we should stop reproducing for like 15 - 20 years. You know? Maybe 25 or 50. Yeah, 50 years. Just no more kids. Movie theatres would be so much better.

If everyone was strictly homosexual with no commingling we wouldn't have reproduction problems. So to be environmentally correct sex with the opposite gender must be banned immediately. Problem solved.
You get it.

But seriously, put a moratorium on reproduction for a few years. Make it punishable by death.

The fertility rate has consistently decreased since the 50s.. 

The fertility rate of Immigrants to the US also drop after the second generation..

The US is actually below the replacement rate.. as are most developed nations..



This is happening with NO intervention whatsoever..

Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 30 September 2014, 15:49:45
This is super relevant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_Human_Extinction_Movement

I often joke with my friends that we should stop reproducing for like 15 - 20 years. You know? Maybe 25 or 50. Yeah, 50 years. Just no more kids. Movie theatres would be so much better.

If everyone was strictly homosexual with no commingling we wouldn't have reproduction problems. So to be environmentally correct sex with the opposite gender must be banned immediately. Problem solved.
You get it.

But seriously, put a moratorium on reproduction for a few years. Make it punishable by death.

The fertility rate has consistently decreased since the 50s.. 

The fertility rate of Immigrants to the US also drop after the second generation..

The US is actually below the replacement rate.. as are most developed nations..



This is happening with NO intervention whatsoever..



Yeah it is all those developing 3rd world wanna be countries that are going to grow by large numbers over the next 30 years, unless some virus happens to take out a majority of the population.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: Findecanor on Tue, 30 September 2014, 15:58:31
I file it under problem that will solve itself..   the solution may be starvation/ extreme inflation / extreme poverty/ Lots of people die / war..
Sure, but the costs are going to be huge. The Earth that is left after this turmoil (whenever/ifever it ceases) will certainly be less sustainable than what it is now.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 September 2014, 16:03:30
I file it under problem that will solve itself..   the solution may be starvation/ extreme inflation / extreme poverty/ Lots of people die / war..
Sure, but the costs are going to be huge. The Earth that is left after this turmoil (whenever/ifever it ceases) will certainly be less sustainable than what it is now.

Um...that's very hard to say or claim bro...

Let's say... for example during the 50yr war of century 21.. we ran out of oil...   No oil, everyone's gotta go solar or wind...

World peace overnight because people are too busy snapping panels together ....  (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/wow1-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862527)
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 30 September 2014, 16:29:44
Confirmed Ebola case in Texas.......and it begins.......
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 September 2014, 17:11:58
Confirmed Ebola case in Texas.......and it begins.......

I knew ebola was bad... then I read the wiki...  it's REALLY bad...

Everyone...  Go read the wiki...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_epidemic_in_West_Africa
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: McWilloughby on Tue, 30 September 2014, 17:16:38
We have the technology, knowledge and surface area to support a population quite a lot larger than what we have right now. I would argue that we have an en-masse lack of forsight in terms of how we're proceeding with the issue.

(Most) Governments in the developed world seem to be more concerned with the avoiding economic hit of taking action to address any of the large future issues (overpopulation, climate change, etc), without considering the economic hit of NOT taking action. The electricity needs of humanity can easily be generated with current solar technology (improvements need to be made to national/continental grids but that doesn't change the fact). The food requirements of humanity can easily be produced with usable farm land by focussing on growing crops rather than rearing livestock (similarly, distribution is a problem but not an insurmountable one).

Both of these issues with regards to overpopulation can be addressed with massive expenditure from the developed world and obviously the immediate economic effect would be bad. What will be worse though will be the effect of doing nothing and carrying on as we do now. Perhaps if we had more scientists in government rather than economists then we could actually get something done...

Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 September 2014, 17:44:28
We have the technology, knowledge and surface area to support a population quite a lot larger than what we have right now. I would argue that we have an en-masse lack of forsight in terms of how we're proceeding with the issue.

(Most) Governments in the developed world seem to be more concerned with the avoiding economic hit of taking action to address any of the large future issues (overpopulation, climate change, etc), without considering the economic hit of NOT taking action. The electricity needs of humanity can easily be generated with current solar technology (improvements need to be made to national/continental grids but that doesn't change the fact). The food requirements of humanity can easily be produced with usable farm land by focussing on growing crops rather than rearing livestock (similarly, distribution is a problem but not an insurmountable one).

Both of these issues with regards to overpopulation can be addressed with massive expenditure from the developed world and obviously the immediate economic effect would be bad. What will be worse though will be the effect of doing nothing and carrying on as we do now. Perhaps if we had more scientists in government rather than economists then we could actually get something done...



You've oversimplified br0..

The problem is people, and the people's problem is coordination..

People are epic inefficient.. and generally hampered by lethargy, complacency, and lack of follow through.


Everyone knows the right thing to do, but only spartans had the resolve to do them, and yet they're all dead..


So.. why is this.. well,  because of the constant infighting... 

The real battle is with not only nature, but our inner termoils.. our propensity for vices and to sin..




There is also a grave misunderstanding of MONEY...  That number @ da-Bank is just a fictional score-board, WE DO NOT have that equivalent in Industrial or Human capital...



That is why, we can't just write Africa a Check for 10 billion dollars, and have the problem go away....
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: Findecanor on Tue, 30 September 2014, 21:05:41
You are both right. Any solution to avoiding the upcoming crisis will have to contain a workaround around human weakness.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 30 September 2014, 21:20:34
http://www.worldometers.info/

http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 30 September 2014, 21:24:49
Who gives a ****? We'll all be long dead before this issue comes to a head.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 September 2014, 21:25:36
http://www.worldometers.info/

http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

300 billion dollars on illegal drugs  by september.. hmmm...

where are all these people doing drugs.. how come I never see them..
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 30 September 2014, 21:31:10
where are all these people doing drugs..

In their basements.

how come I never see them..

Because you are in your own basement.  Go to other people's basements and watch them do drugs!
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 30 September 2014, 22:02:39
If anything, climate change has a bigger chance at killing off most of the planet before anything else. Just look at the drastic change in the planet in only the past 200 years, it'll take a lot longer than that for global population to reach a tipping point.
Either that, or disease + increased population before any sort of food shortage. Although we can already feel the impact of increased global population + automated work forces putting the economy in the ****ter. It's only competitive now, in 20 years it'll be brutal.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 30 September 2014, 22:06:33
If anything, climate change has a bigger chance at killing off most of the planet before anything else. Just look at the drastic change in the planet in only the past 200 years, it'll take a lot longer than that for global population to reach a tipping point.
Either that, or disease + increased population before any sort of food shortage. Although we can already feel the impact of increased global population + automated work forces putting the economy in the ****ter. It's only competitive now, in 20 years it'll be brutal.

I don't buy the whole climate change thing. I think there is more to a long term weather cycle than we realize. But that's not a topic to be discussed here :D
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 September 2014, 22:13:00
If anything, climate change has a bigger chance at killing off most of the planet before anything else. Just look at the drastic change in the planet in only the past 200 years, it'll take a lot longer than that for global population to reach a tipping point.
Either that, or disease + increased population before any sort of food shortage. Although we can already feel the impact of increased global population + automated work forces putting the economy in the ****ter. It's only competitive now, in 20 years it'll be brutal.

I don't buy the whole climate change thing. I think there is more to a long term weather cycle than we realize. But that's not a topic to be discussed here :D


Again.. coordination problem..... (who listens to who)... vices (love big cars)... sins ('Murica)
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 30 September 2014, 22:39:31
Who gives a ****? We'll all be long dead before this issue comes to a head.

Definitely, who gives a sh1t about the future since it's better off to enjoy what you have NOW.  Far better off today than at any time previously hence enjoy everything because tomorrow could spell the end of the current utopia.

Hope it never ends at least while I am still alive.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: slip84 on Tue, 30 September 2014, 22:52:48
Who gives a ****? We'll all be long dead before this issue comes to a head.

You and spamray remind me of a song by NIN called "Capital G" from Year Zero. Your lyrics are:

Ain't gonna worry about no future generations and a
I'm sure somebody gonna figure it out

If anything, climate change has a bigger chance at killing off most of the planet before anything else. Just look at the drastic change in the planet in only the past 200 years, it'll take a lot longer than that for global population to reach a tipping point.
Either that, or disease + increased population before any sort of food shortage. Although we can already feel the impact of increased global population + automated work forces putting the economy in the ****ter. It's only competitive now, in 20 years it'll be brutal.

I don't buy the whole climate change thing. I think there is more to a long term weather cycle than we realize. But that's not a topic to be discussed here :D

And for spamray:

Don't give a **** about the temperature in Guatemala
Don't really see what all the fuss is about


http://rock.genius.com/Nine-inch-nails-capital-g-lyrics

The amount of apathy in this world is confusing.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: Findecanor on Tue, 30 September 2014, 23:01:10
If anything, climate change has a bigger chance at killing off most of the planet before anything else.
Yes, but they are connected. If there had not been population growth, there wouldn't have been as much climate change as there is.

A fundamental flaw is the widespread belief among economists and decision-makers in "growth" as something both natural and desirable. For there to be economic growth there has to be a growth in resource production and consumption, and ultimately at some level that has to be driven by growth in population.
The simple truth is that because we live on a limited sphere, there are limits to growth.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tbc on Tue, 30 September 2014, 23:20:45
Who gives a ****? We'll all be long dead before this issue comes to a head.

You and spamray remind me of a song by NIN called "Capital G" from Year Zero. Your lyrics are:

Ain't gonna worry about no future generations and a
I'm sure somebody gonna figure it out

If anything, climate change has a bigger chance at killing off most of the planet before anything else. Just look at the drastic change in the planet in only the past 200 years, it'll take a lot longer than that for global population to reach a tipping point.
Either that, or disease + increased population before any sort of food shortage. Although we can already feel the impact of increased global population + automated work forces putting the economy in the ****ter. It's only competitive now, in 20 years it'll be brutal.

I don't buy the whole climate change thing. I think there is more to a long term weather cycle than we realize. But that's not a topic to be discussed here :D

And for spamray:

Don't give a **** about the temperature in Guatemala
Don't really see what all the fuss is about


http://rock.genius.com/Nine-inch-nails-capital-g-lyrics

The amount of apathy in this world is confusing.

it's not so much apathy as superiority.

literally every generation considers itself to be more deserving and better than the next generation.  which is ironic, because that is just calling yourself a bad parent
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: Halverson on Tue, 30 September 2014, 23:20:59
Hi guys! New here, you can call me Halverso!

Looking to buy some click clacks!
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 30 September 2014, 23:28:49
Who gives a ****? We'll all be long dead before this issue comes to a head.

You and spamray remind me of a song by NIN called "Capital G" from Year Zero. Your lyrics are:

Ain't gonna worry about no future generations and a
I'm sure somebody gonna figure it out

If anything, climate change has a bigger chance at killing off most of the planet before anything else. Just look at the drastic change in the planet in only the past 200 years, it'll take a lot longer than that for global population to reach a tipping point.
Either that, or disease + increased population before any sort of food shortage. Although we can already feel the impact of increased global population + automated work forces putting the economy in the ****ter. It's only competitive now, in 20 years it'll be brutal.

I don't buy the whole climate change thing. I think there is more to a long term weather cycle than we realize. But that's not a topic to be discussed here :D

And for spamray:

Don't give a **** about the temperature in Guatemala
Don't really see what all the fuss is about


http://rock.genius.com/Nine-inch-nails-capital-g-lyrics

The amount of apathy in this world is confusing.

it's not so much apathy as superiority.

literally every generation considers itself to be more deserving and better than the next generation.  which is ironic, because that is just calling yourself a bad parent

superiority ?

you mean.. Arrogance **

LOL... (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/069.gif)
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tbc on Wed, 01 October 2014, 01:07:22
*echo*....
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: Input Nirvana on Wed, 01 October 2014, 02:00:39

OOOOKKAAYYYYY,
<so much great stuff in this thread, seems like a freaky Friday night, I can't possibly address it all>

Are there too many bodies on the planet? Probably. If all 7-8 billion lived/consumed as we in the US do, there would be a tremendous environmental impact and dramatic changes. I remember being concerned about overpopulation when I was 12 years old. Now I worry I can't juggle a 3rd girlfriend in the mix. Priorities. Nothing wrong with 3 wives, but why interject the whole religious/scam/marriage into it? Just natural and naked (no marriage license, but a lot of dirty butts and feet). The only problem those crazy Mormons bring to the table is they marry a bunch of pre-pubecent cousins and such, then apply and receive government welfare. LOL Crafty Latter Day Saints! Why is it when I go to Salt Lake City to ski and I go out to breakfast, all the women look the same, hmmmmmmm??? And the 3 "bars" in town all have "interesting" 22 year old girls that talk of their bad/abusive boyfriends/husbands and want a way out. It's a riot!

I love TP's stuff in this thread. Really, TP, I'm voting you for "Classic" status. It's going to be a Geekwhacker Award starting next year. Keep up the good work! Seriously, I want a forum "Best of TP" (a la Craigslist)
Digi said some funny stuff, but TP has you beat, back to the minor leagues for a season to brush up on your material!
And I'm not clear on Spamrays views, but basically you want heteros to conduct themselves as homos? Are you going to? I don't know how that would work? Wasn't that a short sighted scared dealism of yesteryear that homos could "just be" heteros? Wasn't that Nancy Reagan's massive contribution to society? I don't think she understood the difference between apples and oranges either.

To quote Ace Ventura: "AAAAAALRIGHTY THEN!"

And really, #WHATTHE****ISUPWITHTHAT****INGHAIR? ??? ? Doesn't it make ya wanna rip it off their heads with your bare hands? And kick their toofers in. Just because. Right? How much welfare are they getting? Not enough to get new 'doos!

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The way you are reading this post is basically the way it seems to me when I read the forums sometimes. I'm sure some are offended, and it won't offend me if this post is deleted (although I'm against deletions). I'm basically threadcrapping on steroids and won't return to this thread no matter how many times Tapatalk on iPhone clicks to says TP has quoted me.

But first let's take a poll on how many wanna dookie on the dudes rug <left> verses how many wanna dookie on the ugly brooding sow's mangy head carpet <right>.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 01 October 2014, 04:31:31
where are all these people doing drugs..

In their basements.

how come I never see them..

Because you are in your own basement.  Go to other people's basements and watch them do drugs!


How do you know this...  have you done drugs in mucho-basements. (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/ahaaah-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862489)
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 01 October 2014, 08:39:31


And I'm not clear on Spamrays views

Spamray's views are best viewed with a heavy dose of sarcasm. :thumb:
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: Input Nirvana on Wed, 01 October 2014, 08:40:45



And I'm not clear on Spamrays views

Spamray's views are best viewed with a heavy dose of sarcasm. :thumb:

Lol
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 01 October 2014, 08:46:39
Honestly after spending a few hours last night reading conspiracy theory 'news' Bill Gates and Warren Buffet have this population thing all under control. Nothing to worry about. Just remember to get your Ebola vaccine.

Also the world trade center was actually taken down by a nuclear blast. Who knew?

I'm missing out on so much just reading yahoo news and the daily beast and of course facebook.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 01 October 2014, 08:49:03
I'm not saying overpopulation is a problem yet, per se, but...

...some of y'all gots to die. ;)


Why do you think zombie apocalypse stories are so popular right now? We haven't been hit by a comet, nor had ourselves destroyed by that evil "global warming," so we need some fantasy about how the population will be brought down to a reasonable level.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 01 October 2014, 09:00:07
I'm not saying overpopulation is a problem yet, per se, but...

...some of y'all gots to die. ;)


Why do you think zombie apocalypse stories are so popular right now? We haven't been hit by a comet, nor had ourselves destroyed by that evil "global warming," so we need some fantasy about how the population will be brought down to a reasonable level.

So wait...

Movies predict the future?

 :eek:

I KNEW Oblivion was accurate!

Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 01 October 2014, 09:04:15
I'm not saying overpopulation is a problem yet, per se, but...

...some of y'all gots to die. ;)


Why do you think zombie apocalypse stories are so popular right now? We haven't been hit by a comet, nor had ourselves destroyed by that evil "global warming," so we need some fantasy about how the population will be brought down to a reasonable level.

So wait...

Movies predict the future?

 :eek:

I KNEW Oblivion was accurate!



Also Prometheus
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 01 October 2014, 10:04:40
I'm not saying overpopulation is a problem yet, per se, but...

...some of y'all gots to die. ;)


Why do you think zombie apocalypse stories are so popular right now? We haven't been hit by a comet, nor had ourselves destroyed by that evil "global warming," so we need some fantasy about how the population will be brought down to a reasonable level.

So wait...

Movies predict the future?

 :eek:

I KNEW Oblivion was accurate!



Also Prometheus

I prefer -I Am Legend-

He had those cool Honda Generators in the kitchen..

And rigged the street with xplosivz

(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/oh-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862514)
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: Input Nirvana on Wed, 01 October 2014, 17:19:54

I'm not saying overpopulation is a problem yet, per se, but...

...some of y'all gots to die. ;)


Why do you think zombie apocalypse stories are so popular right now? We haven't been hit by a comet, nor had ourselves destroyed by that evil "global warming," so we need some fantasy about how the population will be brought down to a reasonable level.

So wait...

Movies predict the future?

 :eek:

I KNEW Oblivion was accurate!



Also Prometheus

I prefer -I Am Legend-

He had those cool Honda Generators in the kitchen..

And rigged the street with xplosivz

Show Image
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That movie creeped me out. Too many times I was like "NOOOOO DON'T DO THAAAAT!!!"

And the creatures were unrealistic athletic, defy what a body can do. At the end when he blew up was weird too.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 01 October 2014, 17:37:09

I'm not saying overpopulation is a problem yet, per se, but...

...some of y'all gots to die. ;)


Why do you think zombie apocalypse stories are so popular right now? We haven't been hit by a comet, nor had ourselves destroyed by that evil "global warming," so we need some fantasy about how the population will be brought down to a reasonable level.

So wait...

Movies predict the future?

 :eek:

I KNEW Oblivion was accurate!



Also Prometheus

I prefer -I Am Legend-

He had those cool Honda Generators in the kitchen..

And rigged the street with xplosivz

Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/oh-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862514)


That movie creeped me out. Too many times I was like "NOOOOO DON'T DO THAAAAT!!!"

And the creatures were unrealistic athletic, defy what a body can do. At the end when he blew up was weird too.

Yea.. fast zombies are less realistic than slow zombies..

Considering .. how they'd be malnourished, and half eaten by bacteria, and oh, they don't drink water... how's that work..   You can't carry by drinking / eating coagulated blood of victims..
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: Input Nirvana on Wed, 01 October 2014, 17:38:41


I'm not saying overpopulation is a problem yet, per se, but...

...some of y'all gots to die. ;)


Why do you think zombie apocalypse stories are so popular right now? We haven't been hit by a comet, nor had ourselves destroyed by that evil "global warming," so we need some fantasy about how the population will be brought down to a reasonable level.

So wait...

Movies predict the future?

 :eek:

I KNEW Oblivion was accurate!



Also Prometheus

I prefer -I Am Legend-

He had those cool Honda Generators in the kitchen..

And rigged the street with xplosivz

Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/oh-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862514)


That movie creeped me out. Too many times I was like "NOOOOO DON'T DO THAAAAT!!!"

And the creatures were unrealistic athletic, defy what a body can do. At the end when he blew up was weird too.

Yea.. fast zombies are less realistic than slow zombies..

Considering .. how they'd be malnourished, and half eaten by bacteria, and oh, they don't drink water... how's that work..   You can't carry by drinking / eating coagulated blood of victims..
Those things were zombies?
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 01 October 2014, 18:44:50

Considering .. how they'd be malnourished, and half eaten by bacteria, and oh, they don't drink water... how's that work..   You can't carry by drinking / eating coagulated blood of victims..

Why on earth are you assuming that a fictional creature, the zombie, would be bound by the same dietary requirements as a human?
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 01 October 2014, 18:50:16

Considering .. how they'd be malnourished, and half eaten by bacteria, and oh, they don't drink water... how's that work..   You can't carry by drinking / eating coagulated blood of victims..

Why on earth are you assuming that a fictional creature, the zombie, would be bound by the same dietary requirements as a human?

so.. the virus has to reanimate them.... and overcome the natural redox couple native to This galaxy...    ALL in one spontaneous mutation?   LOLOL... not happening..   


It's completely unbelievable unless you throw in ALIEN engineered virus...   WHICH is seldom the backplane of zombie survival stories.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 01 October 2014, 20:14:33
I'm not saying overpopulation is a problem yet, per se, but...

...some of y'all gots to die. ;)


Why do you think zombie apocalypse stories are so popular right now? We haven't been hit by a comet, nor had ourselves destroyed by that evil "global warming," so we need some fantasy about how the population will be brought down to a reasonable level.

I was about to PM you JD, thought maybe you bugged out of Texas.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 01 October 2014, 20:33:19


Considering .. how they'd be malnourished, and half eaten by bacteria, and oh, they don't drink water... how's that work..   You can't carry by drinking / eating coagulated blood of victims..

Why on earth are you assuming that a fictional creature, the zombie, would be bound by the same dietary requirements as a human?

so.. the virus has to reanimate them.... and overcome the natural redox couple native to This galaxy...    ALL in one spontaneous mutation?   LOLOL... not happening..   


It's completely unbelievable unless you throw in ALIEN engineered virus...   WHICH is seldom the backplane of zombie survival stories.

So you can accept that zombies are a thing. But you can't accept that there is a mutation somewhere that alters this. Hmmmm.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 01 October 2014, 20:43:18


Considering .. how they'd be malnourished, and half eaten by bacteria, and oh, they don't drink water... how's that work..   You can't carry by drinking / eating coagulated blood of victims..

Why on earth are you assuming that a fictional creature, the zombie, would be bound by the same dietary requirements as a human?

so.. the virus has to reanimate them.... and overcome the natural redox couple native to This galaxy...    ALL in one spontaneous mutation?   LOLOL... not happening..   


It's completely unbelievable unless you throw in ALIEN engineered virus...   WHICH is seldom the backplane of zombie survival stories.

So you can accept that zombies are a thing. But you can't accept that there is a mutation somewhere that alters this. Hmmmm.

Hoff.. lol... i don't think you realize how difficult it is to fight the chemistry of the universe...
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 01 October 2014, 21:34:03
Well... People have been saying for years now "we need a new plague" now we have cancer, ebola, aids, hiv, and others that are deadly lol.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 01 October 2014, 21:55:05



Considering .. how they'd be malnourished, and half eaten by bacteria, and oh, they don't drink water... how's that work..   You can't carry by drinking / eating coagulated blood of victims..

Why on earth are you assuming that a fictional creature, the zombie, would be bound by the same dietary requirements as a human?

so.. the virus has to reanimate them.... and overcome the natural redox couple native to This galaxy...    ALL in one spontaneous mutation?   LOLOL... not happening..   


It's completely unbelievable unless you throw in ALIEN engineered virus...   WHICH is seldom the backplane of zombie survival stories.

So you can accept that zombies are a thing. But you can't accept that there is a mutation somewhere that alters this. Hmmmm.

Hoff.. lol... i don't think you realize how difficult it is to fight the chemistry of the universe...

I do understand that. What I don't understand is how you can accept one type of fictional event while dismissing another as being unrealistic.  :confused:
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 02 October 2014, 05:29:33



Considering .. how they'd be malnourished, and half eaten by bacteria, and oh, they don't drink water... how's that work..   You can't carry by drinking / eating coagulated blood of victims..

Why on earth are you assuming that a fictional creature, the zombie, would be bound by the same dietary requirements as a human?

so.. the virus has to reanimate them.... and overcome the natural redox couple native to This galaxy...    ALL in one spontaneous mutation?   LOLOL... not happening..   


It's completely unbelievable unless you throw in ALIEN engineered virus...   WHICH is seldom the backplane of zombie survival stories.

So you can accept that zombies are a thing. But you can't accept that there is a mutation somewhere that alters this. Hmmmm.

Hoff.. lol... i don't think you realize how difficult it is to fight the chemistry of the universe...

I do understand that. What I don't understand is how you can accept one type of fictional event while dismissing another as being unrealistic.  :confused:

It's one thing to say.. Jesus is back..

it's another thing to say.. His father made the world differently..

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Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: paicrai on Thu, 02 October 2014, 06:52:43
what the ******** is that supposed to mean
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 02 October 2014, 06:58:20
what the ******** is that supposed to mean

Maybe tp4 has tourettes?
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 02 October 2014, 07:04:40
what the ******** is that supposed to mean

Maybe tp4 has tourettes?

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Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 02 October 2014, 08:56:10
and we hold to the unrealistic values that "all life is created equal" and "every life is sacred"
Thoughts?

Less of the 'we'
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 02 October 2014, 09:00:09
and we hold to the unrealistic values that "all life is created equal" and "every life is sacred"
Thoughts?

Less of the 'we'


more like NO ONE thinks that.. hahahahaha..

You're designed to think you're at least 99% of the universe....  and this is somewhat true because all components of existence must remain in play once the game begins.

If there's a breach in the fabric, then that is the same as saying the current game could not or would not have ever existed..

So.. no matter how small something is, its importance is absolute...   


THIS however does not cover Arrangement..

For example.. if you're talking about , what if I splatter someone in an accelerator,  as long as his particles are conserved or converted...   That is ok...
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: paicrai on Thu, 02 October 2014, 09:27:15
guys chillllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 02 October 2014, 09:33:10
Ebola was only down to one village a while ago. But the natives were scared of the big, spooki white men with witchcraft.
Is there a vaccine so far?
New Ebola shot like flu shot?
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 02 October 2014, 09:36:19
Ebola was only down to one village a while ago. But the natives were scared of the white men with witchcraft.
Is there a vaccine so far?
New Ebola shot like flu shot?

Of course they will be available soon, a vaccine has existed for a while now.

Don't you know its the shots that they will use to actually thin the heard.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 02 October 2014, 09:37:05
and we hold to the unrealistic values that "all life is created equal" and "every life is sacred"
Thoughts?

Less of the 'we'


By 'we' I'm implying 'society' not individuals.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 02 October 2014, 09:41:38
and we hold to the unrealistic values that "all life is created equal" and "every life is sacred"
Thoughts?

Less of the 'we'


By 'we' I'm implying 'society' not individuals.

I don't think the overwhelming majority of society cares about anyone else than themselves to be honest. Sad but true.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 02 October 2014, 09:44:25
and we hold to the unrealistic values that "all life is created equal" and "every life is sacred"
Thoughts?

Less of the 'we'


By 'we' I'm implying 'society' not individuals.

Maybe for American society? ...but I'm not sure that's true for the rest of the world...
Population control, or more-over, the lack off, will be our gloriously pathetic end. There is nothing anyone person can do, all we can do is await the third world war to help balance out the population, or starve our planet of resources. I think it's a pretty perfect way to go and is essentially Darwinism, the rich survive and flourish and the poor die and fail.

All you can do is hope you don't see either eventuality
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: yasuo on Thu, 02 October 2014, 09:45:54
I will move to other planet if so :))
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: paicrai on Thu, 02 October 2014, 10:05:49
Ebola was only down to one village a while ago. But the natives were scared of the white men with witchcraft.
Is there a vaccine so far?
New Ebola shot like flu shot?

Of course they will be available soon, a vaccine has existed for a while now.

Don't you know its the shots that they will use to actually thin the heard.
watch out for them evil vaccines or you might get seven different birth defects as an adult
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 02 October 2014, 10:09:43
Ebola was only down to one village a while ago. But the natives were scared of the white men with witchcraft.
Is there a vaccine so far?
New Ebola shot like flu shot?

Of course they will be available soon, a vaccine has existed for a while now.

Don't you know its the shots that they will use to actually thin the heard.
watch out for them evil vaccines or you might get seven different birth defects as an adult

yea... def don't jump out to be willing lab rats for big pharma.. 
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 02 October 2014, 13:13:21
Ebola was only down to one village a while ago. But the natives were scared of the white men with witchcraft.
Is there a vaccine so far?
New Ebola shot like flu shot?

Of course they will be available soon, a vaccine has existed for a while now.

Don't you know its the shots that they will use to actually thin the heard.
watch out for them evil vaccines or you might get seven different birth defects as an adult

yea... def don't jump out to be willing lab rats for big pharma..
I'd only get one after I see there are no major issues with it lol
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 02 October 2014, 13:19:46
Ebola was only down to one village a while ago. But the natives were scared of the white men with witchcraft.
Is there a vaccine so far?
New Ebola shot like flu shot?

Of course they will be available soon, a vaccine has existed for a while now.

Don't you know its the shots that they will use to actually thin the heard.
watch out for them evil vaccines or you might get seven different birth defects as an adult

yea... def don't jump out to be willing lab rats for big pharma..
I'd only get one after I see there are no major issues with it lol


That would take years to determine :eek:
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 02 October 2014, 13:28:55
Ebola was only down to one village a while ago. But the natives were scared of the white men with witchcraft.
Is there a vaccine so far?
New Ebola shot like flu shot?

Of course they will be available soon, a vaccine has existed for a while now.

Don't you know its the shots that they will use to actually thin the heard.
watch out for them evil vaccines or you might get seven different birth defects as an adult

yea... def don't jump out to be willing lab rats for big pharma..
I'd only get one after I see there are no major issues with it lol


That would take years to determine :eek:

And we'd all be dead by ebola by then is what you're saying.. (http://www.clubtuzki.com/avatars/tuzki_2013_avatar_16.png)
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 02 October 2014, 14:05:47
Ebola was only down to one village a while ago. But the natives were scared of the white men with witchcraft.
Is there a vaccine so far?
New Ebola shot like flu shot?

Of course they will be available soon, a vaccine has existed for a while now.

Don't you know its the shots that they will use to actually thin the heard.
watch out for them evil vaccines or you might get seven different birth defects as an adult

yea... def don't jump out to be willing lab rats for big pharma..
I'd only get one after I see there are no major issues with it lol


That would take years to determine :eek:

And we'd all be dead by ebola by then is what you're saying..
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Well by 2015 supposedly there will be a vaccine.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 02 October 2014, 14:07:56
Ebola was only down to one village a while ago. But the natives were scared of the white men with witchcraft.
Is there a vaccine so far?
New Ebola shot like flu shot?

Of course they will be available soon, a vaccine has existed for a while now.

Don't you know its the shots that they will use to actually thin the heard.
watch out for them evil vaccines or you might get seven different birth defects as an adult

yea... def don't jump out to be willing lab rats for big pharma..
I'd only get one after I see there are no major issues with it lol


That would take years to determine :eek:

And we'd all be dead by ebola by then is what you're saying..
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Well by 2015 supposedly there will be a vaccine.

They have a vaccine from 2006 or so it works on monkeys anyway.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 02 October 2014, 14:23:48
Ebola was only down to one village a while ago. But the natives were scared of the white men with witchcraft.
Is there a vaccine so far?
New Ebola shot like flu shot?

Of course they will be available soon, a vaccine has existed for a while now.

Don't you know its the shots that they will use to actually thin the heard.
watch out for them evil vaccines or you might get seven different birth defects as an adult

yea... def don't jump out to be willing lab rats for big pharma..
I'd only get one after I see there are no major issues with it lol


That would take years to determine :eek:

And we'd all be dead by ebola by then is what you're saying..
Show Image
(http://www.clubtuzki.com/avatars/tuzki_2013_avatar_16.png)

Well by 2015 supposedly there will be a vaccine.

They have a vaccine from 2006 or so it works on monkeys anyway.

None of ya'll played  plague inc..   ??   I always start in south africa.. LOL /WIN..
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 02 October 2014, 14:32:19
Dueling should just be made legal again. It would solve population problems, free up legal system and more!
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: paicrai on Thu, 02 October 2014, 14:33:32
ebola!



Dueling should just be made legal again. It would solve population problems, free up legal system and more!
****ing radical
doesnt england still have Trial By Combat? thats something
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Thu, 02 October 2014, 14:42:59
Dueling should just be made legal again. It would solve population problems, free up legal system and more!

And have a TV network created that broadcasts nothing but duels 24/7

Solving overpopulation... and boredom. FTW.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 02 October 2014, 14:50:27
Sure, put it on TV why not.
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Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: evolveS on Thu, 02 October 2014, 14:51:14
American Gladiator 2 - Death Duels

Coming soon on FOX..
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 02 October 2014, 15:06:50
American Gladiator 2 - Death Duels

Coming soon on FOX..

I wonder if fighting to the death in underground gambling rings is a REAL THING..  you see it in movies..

I've seen all sorts of underground animal fights..  but I've never seen any involving People..
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 02 October 2014, 16:47:39
Ebola was only down to one village a while ago. But the natives were scared of the white men with witchcraft.
Is there a vaccine so far?
New Ebola shot like flu shot?

Of course they will be available soon, a vaccine has existed for a while now.

Don't you know its the shots that they will use to actually thin the heard.
watch out for them evil vaccines or you might get seven different birth defects as an adult

yea... def don't jump out to be willing lab rats for big pharma..
I'd only get one after I see there are no major issues with it lol


That would take years to determine :eek:

And we'd all be dead by ebola by then is what you're saying..
Show Image
(http://www.clubtuzki.com/avatars/tuzki_2013_avatar_16.png)

Well by 2015 supposedly there will be a vaccine.

They have a vaccine from 2006 or so it works on monkeys anyway.

None of ya'll played  plague inc..   ??   I always start in south africa.. LOL /WIN..
I forgot that game existed... Downloading now....
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 02 October 2014, 17:00:53
Ebola was only down to one village a while ago. But the natives were scared of the white men with witchcraft.
Is there a vaccine so far?
New Ebola shot like flu shot?

Of course they will be available soon, a vaccine has existed for a while now.

Don't you know its the shots that they will use to actually thin the heard.
watch out for them evil vaccines or you might get seven different birth defects as an adult

yea... def don't jump out to be willing lab rats for big pharma..
I'd only get one after I see there are no major issues with it lol


That would take years to determine :eek:

And we'd all be dead by ebola by then is what you're saying..
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Well by 2015 supposedly there will be a vaccine.

They have a vaccine from 2006 or so it works on monkeys anyway.

None of ya'll played  plague inc..   ??   I always start in south africa.. LOL /WIN..
I forgot that game existed... Downloading now....

It's actually quite CPU intensive..  heats up CPU real good..
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 02 October 2014, 17:14:18
Ebola was only down to one village a while ago. But the natives were scared of the white men with witchcraft.
Is there a vaccine so far?
New Ebola shot like flu shot?

Of course they will be available soon, a vaccine has existed for a while now.

Don't you know its the shots that they will use to actually thin the heard.
watch out for them evil vaccines or you might get seven different birth defects as an adult

yea... def don't jump out to be willing lab rats for big pharma..
I'd only get one after I see there are no major issues with it lol


That would take years to determine :eek:

And we'd all be dead by ebola by then is what you're saying..
Show Image
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Well by 2015 supposedly there will be a vaccine.

They have a vaccine from 2006 or so it works on monkeys anyway.

None of ya'll played  plague inc..   ??   I always start in south africa.. LOL /WIN..
I forgot that game existed... Downloading now....

It's actually quite CPU intensive..  heats up CPU real good..
I've noticed lol. Didn't hit throttle yet though.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: C5Allroad on Sat, 04 October 2014, 01:50:13
I learned something new about pop in APES...
Child pop has stopped st 2 bil.
Most households world wide now are only having 2 children vs 6+.
Peak pop by 2100 will be 11bil.... Hmm. Lots of people.
Africa will have 4bil and Asia also according to statisticians.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 04 October 2014, 06:30:25
I learned something new about pop in APES...
Child pop has stopped st 2 bil.
Most households world wide now are only having 2 children vs 6+.
Peak pop by 2100 will be 11bil.... Hmm. Lots of people.
Africa will have 4bil and Asia also according to statisticians.

I am giddy to see what China's gonna do with all its old people come 50 years.. hahahaha... stick them all in the modular japanese hotels ?


and they double as coffins.. hahahahahah... ok that's morbid... Ha... well, it's a real problem.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: C5Allroad on Sat, 04 October 2014, 11:36:06
But 11 billion people is a lot of people to be on this earth. For people to live like we do here in the U.S. we would require over 5 earths to live sustainably.
Unless we can come up with super fuel that's clean, so I think we're screwed for now.
Or they can just build higher up into the sky and pretty all building will have over 100 floors. Even then the streets would be super crowded. Genetic engineering would give us wings and such. Then we would be able to chemo synthesis and photosynthesis and survive off of the sun.
We can move to floating cities and live in the ocean too! And genetically modify crops to be able to have a corn field off of Florida... Holy ****... Imagine crop fields right off of the coast here... All the potatoes for us.
I should be a environmentalist person thing.... (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/069.gif)
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: iri on Sat, 04 October 2014, 11:46:49
But 11 billion people is a lot of people to be on this earth. For people to live like we do here in the U.S. we would require over 5 earths to live sustainably.
well, not everyone wastes resources like you do.

also, the whole current earth population can fit comfortably in texas.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: C5Allroad on Sat, 04 October 2014, 11:55:26
But 11 billion people is a lot of people to be on this earth. For people to live like we do here in the U.S. we would require over 5 earths to live sustainably.
well, not everyone wastes resources like you do.

also, the whole current earth population can fit comfortably in texas.
I went on myfootprint and it said I would use about 3 earths.
I understand that the population can fit. I can see that kind of.
But what I don't see is how they're going to get food and live sustainably while doing so. Also, it's not just us who use electric and such.

Out of my text book:Desperate for short-term survival, some of these
individuals degrade potentially renewable forests, soils,
grasslands, fisheries, and wildlife at an ever-increasing
rate. They do not have the luxury of worrying about
long-term environmental quality or sustainability.

Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: slip84 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 11:55:53
But 11 billion people is a lot of people to be on this earth. For people to live like we do here in the U.S. we would require over 5 earths to live sustainably.
well, not everyone wastes resources like you do.

also, the whole current earth population can fit comfortably in texas.

But everything is bigger in Texas and then not everyone would fit. Also, don't mess with Texas.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tbc on Sat, 04 October 2014, 16:18:38
But 11 billion people is a lot of people to be on this earth. For people to live like we do here in the U.S. we would require over 5 earths to live sustainably.
well, not everyone wastes resources like you do.

also, the whole current earth population can fit comfortably in texas.
I went on myfootprint and it said I would use about 3 earths.
I understand that the population can fit. I can see that kind of.
But what I don't see is how they're going to get food and live sustainably while doing so. Also, it's not just us who use electric and such.

Out of my text book:Desperate for short-term survival, some of these
individuals degrade potentially renewable forests, soils,
grasslands, fisheries, and wildlife at an ever-increasing
rate. They do not have the luxury of worrying about
long-term environmental quality or sustainability.

okay...you're clearly quite young and haven't explored outside of NA culture very much.

if ypu're actually interested in this topic, take the time to learn how other cultures handle their housing (i know specifically about hong kong and tokyo).

you'll realize that north americans expect to have about 5x-8x the amount of living space.  not to mention how much NAers spend on their cars (more cars, bigger cars means more and bigger garages)
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: C5Allroad on Sat, 04 October 2014, 16:58:52
But 11 billion people is a lot of people to be on this earth. For people to live like we do here in the U.S. we would require over 5 earths to live sustainably.
well, not everyone wastes resources like you do.

also, the whole current earth population can fit comfortably in texas.
I went on myfootprint and it said I would use about 3 earths.
I understand that the population can fit. I can see that kind of.
But what I don't see is how they're going to get food and live sustainably while doing so. Also, it's not just us who use electric and such.

Out of my text book:Desperate for short-term survival, some of these
individuals degrade potentially renewable forests, soils,
grasslands, fisheries, and wildlife at an ever-increasing
rate. They do not have the luxury of worrying about
long-term environmental quality or sustainability.

okay...you're clearly quite young and haven't explored outside of NA culture very much.

if ypu're actually interested in this topic, take the time to learn how other cultures handle their housing (i know specifically about hong kong and tokyo).

you'll realize that north americans expect to have about 5x-8x the amount of living space.  not to mention how much NAers spend on their cars (more cars, bigger cars means more and bigger garages)
I've been looking into all this. I get interested by all this stuff about the environment lol.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tbc on Sat, 04 October 2014, 18:02:24
But 11 billion people is a lot of people to be on this earth. For people to live like we do here in the U.S. we would require over 5 earths to live sustainably.
well, not everyone wastes resources like you do.

also, the whole current earth population can fit comfortably in texas.
I went on myfootprint and it said I would use about 3 earths.
I understand that the population can fit. I can see that kind of.
But what I don't see is how they're going to get food and live sustainably while doing so. Also, it's not just us who use electric and such.

Out of my text book:Desperate for short-term survival, some of these
individuals degrade potentially renewable forests, soils,
grasslands, fisheries, and wildlife at an ever-increasing
rate. They do not have the luxury of worrying about
long-term environmental quality or sustainability.

okay...you're clearly quite young and haven't explored outside of NA culture very much.

if ypu're actually interested in this topic, take the time to learn how other cultures handle their housing (i know specifically about hong kong and tokyo).

you'll realize that north americans expect to have about 5x-8x the amount of living space.  not to mention how much NAers spend on their cars (more cars, bigger cars means more and bigger garages)
I've been looking into all this. I get interested by all this stuff about the environment lol.

textooks really aren't a good way to learn about this (solutions to the common problem of the environment).

reading people's travel blogs/vlogs is far more revealing and accurate (thank god for interwebs).  although, NOTHING will beat actually living in other cultures, even for just a few months.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: C5Allroad on Sat, 04 October 2014, 18:07:26
But 11 billion people is a lot of people to be on this earth. For people to live like we do here in the U.S. we would require over 5 earths to live sustainably.
well, not everyone wastes resources like you do.

also, the whole current earth population can fit comfortably in texas.
I went on myfootprint and it said I would use about 3 earths.
I understand that the population can fit. I can see that kind of.
But what I don't see is how they're going to get food and live sustainably while doing so. Also, it's not just us who use electric and such.

Out of my text book:Desperate for short-term survival, some of these
individuals degrade potentially renewable forests, soils,
grasslands, fisheries, and wildlife at an ever-increasing
rate. They do not have the luxury of worrying about
long-term environmental quality or sustainability.

okay...you're clearly quite young and haven't explored outside of NA culture very much.

if ypu're actually interested in this topic, take the time to learn how other cultures handle their housing (i know specifically about hong kong and tokyo).

you'll realize that north americans expect to have about 5x-8x the amount of living space.  not to mention how much NAers spend on their cars (more cars, bigger cars means more and bigger garages)
I've been looking into all this. I get interested by all this stuff about the environment lol.

textooks really aren't a good way to learn about this (solutions to the common problem of the environment).

reading people's travel blogs/vlogs is far more revealing and accurate (thank god for interwebs).  although, NOTHING will beat actually living in other cultures, even for just a few months.
Maybe one day I would go to another country... Bucket list lol.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 04 October 2014, 21:16:14
But 11 billion people is a lot of people to be on this earth. For people to live like we do here in the U.S. we would require over 5 earths to live sustainably.
well, not everyone wastes resources like you do.

also, the whole current earth population can fit comfortably in texas.
I went on myfootprint and it said I would use about 3 earths.
I understand that the population can fit. I can see that kind of.
But what I don't see is how they're going to get food and live sustainably while doing so. Also, it's not just us who use electric and such.

Out of my text book:Desperate for short-term survival, some of these
individuals degrade potentially renewable forests, soils,
grasslands, fisheries, and wildlife at an ever-increasing
rate. They do not have the luxury of worrying about
long-term environmental quality or sustainability.

okay...you're clearly quite young and haven't explored outside of NA culture very much.

if ypu're actually interested in this topic, take the time to learn how other cultures handle their housing (i know specifically about hong kong and tokyo).

you'll realize that north americans expect to have about 5x-8x the amount of living space.  not to mention how much NAers spend on their cars (more cars, bigger cars means more and bigger garages)
I've been looking into all this. I get interested by all this stuff about the environment lol.

textooks really aren't a good way to learn about this (solutions to the common problem of the environment).

reading people's travel blogs/vlogs is far more revealing and accurate (thank god for interwebs).  although, NOTHING will beat actually living in other cultures, even for just a few months.
Maybe one day I would go to another country... Bucket list lol.

Murica is da-best place to live Ever.....    You don't need to go to another country, trust me..

First World life is the SAME everywhere..

Once you get bored with the local night life,, it's Internet + potato chips + Piratebay..
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: C5Allroad on Sat, 04 October 2014, 22:22:18
But 11 billion people is a lot of people to be on this earth. For people to live like we do here in the U.S. we would require over 5 earths to live sustainably.
well, not everyone wastes resources like you do.

also, the whole current earth population can fit comfortably in texas.
I went on myfootprint and it said I would use about 3 earths.
I understand that the population can fit. I can see that kind of.
But what I don't see is how they're going to get food and live sustainably while doing so. Also, it's not just us who use electric and such.

Out of my text book:Desperate for short-term survival, some of these
individuals degrade potentially renewable forests, soils,
grasslands, fisheries, and wildlife at an ever-increasing
rate. They do not have the luxury of worrying about
long-term environmental quality or sustainability.

okay...you're clearly quite young and haven't explored outside of NA culture very much.

if ypu're actually interested in this topic, take the time to learn how other cultures handle their housing (i know specifically about hong kong and tokyo).

you'll realize that north americans expect to have about 5x-8x the amount of living space.  not to mention how much NAers spend on their cars (more cars, bigger cars means more and bigger garages)
I've been looking into all this. I get interested by all this stuff about the environment lol.

textooks really aren't a good way to learn about this (solutions to the common problem of the environment).

reading people's travel blogs/vlogs is far more revealing and accurate (thank god for interwebs).  although, NOTHING will beat actually living in other cultures, even for just a few months.
Maybe one day I would go to another country... Bucket list lol.

Murica is da-best place to live Ever.....    You don't need to go to another country, trust me..

First World life is the SAME everywhere..

Once you get bored with the local night life,, it's Internet + potato chips + Piratebay..

Why can't it be internet + donuts + Fire Fall?
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 04 October 2014, 22:31:31
But 11 billion people is a lot of people to be on this earth. For people to live like we do here in the U.S. we would require over 5 earths to live sustainably.
well, not everyone wastes resources like you do.

also, the whole current earth population can fit comfortably in texas.
I went on myfootprint and it said I would use about 3 earths.
I understand that the population can fit. I can see that kind of.
But what I don't see is how they're going to get food and live sustainably while doing so. Also, it's not just us who use electric and such.

Out of my text book:Desperate for short-term survival, some of these
individuals degrade potentially renewable forests, soils,
grasslands, fisheries, and wildlife at an ever-increasing
rate. They do not have the luxury of worrying about
long-term environmental quality or sustainability.

okay...you're clearly quite young and haven't explored outside of NA culture very much.

if ypu're actually interested in this topic, take the time to learn how other cultures handle their housing (i know specifically about hong kong and tokyo).

you'll realize that north americans expect to have about 5x-8x the amount of living space.  not to mention how much NAers spend on their cars (more cars, bigger cars means more and bigger garages)
I've been looking into all this. I get interested by all this stuff about the environment lol.

textooks really aren't a good way to learn about this (solutions to the common problem of the environment).

reading people's travel blogs/vlogs is far more revealing and accurate (thank god for interwebs).  although, NOTHING will beat actually living in other cultures, even for just a few months.
Maybe one day I would go to another country... Bucket list lol.

Murica is da-best place to live Ever.....    You don't need to go to another country, trust me..

First World life is the SAME everywhere..

Once you get bored with the local night life,, it's Internet + potato chips + Piratebay..

Why can't it be internet + donuts + Fire Fall?


Donut is 'Murican..  potato chip is pretty much everywhere..

so.. when I came up with the Get sick of local night life,  I assume you're getting sick of it SOMEWHERE Else...

Because the posit wouldn't make sense if you were still in 'Murica

(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/info-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862510)
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: C5Allroad on Sat, 04 October 2014, 22:33:38


But 11 billion people is a lot of people to be on this earth. For people to live like we do here in the U.S. we would require over 5 earths to live sustainably.
well, not everyone wastes resources like you do.

also, the whole current earth population can fit comfortably in texas.
I went on myfootprint and it said I would use about 3 earths.
I understand that the population can fit. I can see that kind of.
But what I don't see is how they're going to get food and live sustainably while doing so. Also, it's not just us who use electric and such.

Out of my text book:Desperate for short-term survival, some of these
individuals degrade potentially renewable forests, soils,
grasslands, fisheries, and wildlife at an ever-increasing
rate. They do not have the luxury of worrying about
long-term environmental quality or sustainability.

okay...you're clearly quite young and haven't explored outside of NA culture very much.

if ypu're actually interested in this topic, take the time to learn how other cultures handle their housing (i know specifically about hong kong and tokyo).

you'll realize that north americans expect to have about 5x-8x the amount of living space.  not to mention how much NAers spend on their cars (more cars, bigger cars means more and bigger garages)
I've been looking into all this. I get interested by all this stuff about the environment lol.

textooks really aren't a good way to learn about this (solutions to the common problem of the environment).

reading people's travel blogs/vlogs is far more revealing and accurate (thank god for interwebs).  although, NOTHING will beat actually living in other cultures, even for just a few months.
Maybe one day I would go to another country... Bucket list lol.

Murica is da-best place to live Ever.....    You don't need to go to another country, trust me..

First World life is the SAME everywhere..

Once you get bored with the local night life,, it's Internet + potato chips + Piratebay..

Why can't it be internet + donuts + Fire Fall?


Donut is 'Murican..  potato chip is pretty much everywhere..

so.. when I came up with the Get sick of local night life,  I assume you're getting sick of it SOMEWHERE Else...

Because the posit wouldn't make sense if you were still in 'Murica

Show Image
(http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/info-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862510)


I don't go outside though. Outside bad.
I get bored of outside. Unless I'm with friends or at a swim meet...
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: iri on Sun, 05 October 2014, 03:32:19
for a lesson on how to use the environment properly and have enough living space, spend some time in Sweden.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: Lord of Narwhals on Sun, 05 October 2014, 05:17:07
Personally I think you should need to take a test or something to be allowed to have children. The fact that dumb people have more children than smart people is becoming a problem.

for a lesson on how to use the environment properly and have enough living space, spend some time in Sweden.
It's pretty easy to have enough living space when your population density is only 21.5 people/km2 and your country has less inhabitants than the state of Ohio.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 05 October 2014, 13:48:08
Personally I think you should need to take a test or something to be allowed to have children. The fact that dumb people have more children than smart people is becoming a problem.

for a lesson on how to use the environment properly and have enough living space, spend some time in Sweden.
It's pretty easy to have enough living space when your population density is only 21.5 people/km2 and your country has less inhabitants than the state of Ohio.


OK... there's some very biggg misunderstandings here..

Educated people choooose to have less children...  it's not that they're prevented from doing so.. there's no barrier outside of themselves..

Less Educated people don't plan ahead enough to know that more children is actually disadvantageous to personal welfare..


So even if you made people take a test.. it wouldn't help motivate educated people to have more kids.


If you made less-educated people take a test... then the population (already below replacement rate) will fall even further..

to which point, no one will be able to afford basic services because of labor constraints....   you think those minimum wage jobs are cheap ? they're actually extremely expensive by world standards..



Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: iri on Sun, 05 October 2014, 14:01:11
It's pretty easy to have enough living space when your population density is only 21.5 people/km2 and your country has less inhabitants than the state of Ohio.
the state of ohio doesn't have its capital at the 59th parallel north though.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: Lord of Narwhals on Sun, 05 October 2014, 14:49:17
Personally I think you should need to take a test or something to be allowed to have children. The fact that dumb people have more children than smart people is becoming a problem.

for a lesson on how to use the environment properly and have enough living space, spend some time in Sweden.
It's pretty easy to have enough living space when your population density is only 21.5 people/km2 and your country has less inhabitants than the state of Ohio.


OK... there's some very biggg misunderstandings here..

Educated people choooose to have less children...  it's not that they're prevented from doing so.. there's no barrier outside of themselves..

Less Educated people don't plan ahead enough to know that more children is actually disadvantageous to personal welfare..


So even if you made people take a test.. it wouldn't help motivate educated people to have more kids.


If you made less-educated people take a test... then the population (already below replacement rate) will fall even further..

to which point, no one will be able to afford basic services because of labor constraints....   you think those minimum wage jobs are cheap ? they're actually extremely expensive by world standards..
I know that it wouldn't work IRL but something should be done to make bad parents have less children.

I was bullied in middle school and most of the bullies had divorced parents who either did not care about what their children did to other children in school or they treated their children as if they were perfect.

I think that the best way to fight overpopulation is to make protection easily available and socially acceptable. That's one of the big problems in many third world countries, people have a lot of children because they don't know much about safe sex and protection isn't easy/cheap to get. Even in the US people are trying to get schools to not teach their students about safe sex.

Here's a video about some more future problems.
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 05 October 2014, 15:39:35
Personally I think you should need to take a test or something to be allowed to have children. The fact that dumb people have more children than smart people is becoming a problem.

for a lesson on how to use the environment properly and have enough living space, spend some time in Sweden.
It's pretty easy to have enough living space when your population density is only 21.5 people/km2 and your country has less inhabitants than the state of Ohio.


OK... there's some very biggg misunderstandings here..

Educated people choooose to have less children...  it's not that they're prevented from doing so.. there's no barrier outside of themselves..

Less Educated people don't plan ahead enough to know that more children is actually disadvantageous to personal welfare..


So even if you made people take a test.. it wouldn't help motivate educated people to have more kids.


If you made less-educated people take a test... then the population (already below replacement rate) will fall even further..

to which point, no one will be able to afford basic services because of labor constraints....   you think those minimum wage jobs are cheap ? they're actually extremely expensive by world standards..
I know that it wouldn't work IRL but something should be done to make bad parents have less children.

I was bullied in middle school and most of the bullies had divorced parents who either did not care about what their children did to other children in school or they treated their children as if they were perfect.

I think that the best way to fight overpopulation is to make protection easily available and socially acceptable. That's one of the big problems in many third world countries, people have a lot of children because they don't know much about safe sex and protection isn't easy/cheap to get. Even in the US people are trying to get schools to not teach their students about safe sex.

Here's a video about some more future problems.

But we're BELOW replacement rate Narwhals...

the only reason 'Murica floats along, is due to Imported people.. (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/hehe-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862507)
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: paicrai on Sun, 05 October 2014, 15:40:52
nukes
Title: Re: Global Population
Post by: dante on Fri, 09 January 2015, 14:46:15
you can't handle the truth