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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #500 on: Thu, 16 January 2014, 14:08:00 »
I might change my order from blanks to side printed.
I red somewhere people reporting problems with thick PBT with Costar stabilizers, if this is the case how can we prevent/fix it?

I have the Imsto Thick PBT caps on my Costar stabilizers now but not having any problems... What problems are you talking about?
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #501 on: Thu, 16 January 2014, 14:37:18 »
Oooo...if there's side print...I may need to buy another set :o...

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #502 on: Thu, 16 January 2014, 14:42:40 »
I might change my order from blanks to side printed.
I red somewhere people reporting problems with thick PBT with Costar stabilizers, if this is the case how can we prevent/fix it?

I have the Imsto Thick PBT caps on my Costar stabilizers now but not having any problems... What problems are you talking about?
I am not sure where but I heard that they feel scratchy, maybe it is just wrong I don't know either way I ordered a set :))
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #503 on: Thu, 16 January 2014, 17:53:17 »
I check back now and then, still waiting to throw money at this when it goes into production.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #504 on: Thu, 16 January 2014, 18:57:50 »
I have yet to experience Cherry profile and everyone seems to say they're better than OEM.

Sure, they look a lot nicer, but do any of you guys find that they have a better typing experience?
Also, since they are lower in profile, will O-rings not work with them? Do the stems sink in lower in the switches? Or are they as long as OEM?
Lastly, will there be any Modifier-Only sets? I would like to get the letter keyset, but most of my modifier layouts have been changed (i.e. CapsLock -> Backspace)
and would like to keep my keyboard consistent with my own typing experience by keeping them blank.

I'm tempted to pick up a set, but I want to know a little more about the set before I commit.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #505 on: Thu, 16 January 2014, 19:04:51 »
Better typing experience IMO.

The cross supports under the cherry cap are generally the same distance to the top of the mx housing as oem.

I don't think the stem lengths are too different. Their might be a marginal difference.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #506 on: Fri, 17 January 2014, 00:43:59 »
I have yet to experience Cherry profile and everyone seems to say they're better than OEM.

Sure, they look a lot nicer, but do any of you guys find that they have a better typing experience?
Also, since they are lower in profile, will O-rings not work with them? Do the stems sink in lower in the switches? Or are they as long as OEM?
Lastly, will there be any Modifier-Only sets? I would like to get the letter keyset, but most of my modifier layouts have been changed (i.e. CapsLock -> Backspace)
and would like to keep my keyboard consistent with my own typing experience by keeping them blank.

I'm tempted to pick up a set, but I want to know a little more about the set before I commit.

1. The typing experiene is way better in my opinion, but that is personal preference of course. I never had problems with OEM height until I tried Cherry profile. Now it feels really awkward to type on higher keys.

2. Certain O-Rings will work. IMSTO offers smaller O-Rings for Cherry profile and bigger O-Rings for OEM profile.

3. There won't be any Modifier sets. It's only the full set or nothing. Of course you can order a full set and sell the Alphas in the classifieds later.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #507 on: Fri, 17 January 2014, 01:35:58 »
Side printed black on black dyesubs would be something out of the ordinary! Might have to change my order if that happens. Any word on an option to get extra ctrl & caps lock so they can be switched like Realforce boards?

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #508 on: Fri, 17 January 2014, 14:06:57 »
The only way you can get some alternate layout is if you want to meet the minimum 20set tier. If you can do that I will do the set up to print any layout in any font you would like.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #509 on: Sat, 18 January 2014, 09:02:14 »
I'm in for dvorak layout (18 to go)

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #510 on: Sat, 18 January 2014, 11:05:28 »
I'm for HHKB layout,
I'd buy 3 sets :3

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #511 on: Sat, 18 January 2014, 11:11:41 »
Btw, how about asking vendors like EliteKeyboards, MechKeyboards, WASD Keyboards, etc. to join?
People were always asking em for thick PBT caps, and if one or two join we would probably hit the MOQ!

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #512 on: Sat, 18 January 2014, 11:16:59 »
I might change my order from blanks to side printed.
I red somewhere people reporting problems with thick PBT with Costar stabilizers, if this is the case how can we prevent/fix it?

I have the Imsto Thick PBT caps on my Costar stabilizers now but not having any problems... What problems are you talking about?

Some people reported the wire of the stabs would grind on the inside of the cap when you press the key.
Perhaps the combo of thick PBT caps in Cherry profile + new (LED friendly) style Costar stabs...

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #513 on: Sat, 18 January 2014, 13:52:31 »
I might change my order from blanks to side printed.
I red somewhere people reporting problems with thick PBT with Costar stabilizers, if this is the case how can we prevent/fix it?

I have the Imsto Thick PBT caps on my Costar stabilizers now but not having any problems... What problems are you talking about?

Some people reported the wire of the stabs would grind on the inside of the cap when you press the key.
Perhaps the combo of thick PBT caps in Cherry profile + new (LED friendly) style Costar stabs...

From what I've read the grinding/hanging issue is pretty hit or miss and only affects costar stabs. Some people don't have any issues and others claim the afflicted keys border on unusable. The fix is usually to lightly sand down the inside wall of the keycap that rubs on the stabilizer.

This post has some good info and even some pictures to illustrate this - http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=26454#msg497261
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #514 on: Sat, 18 January 2014, 13:56:12 »
I've made vendors aware some time ago. There are a few interested but they have not made a 100% commitment yet. Once I find out about pricing and such from Plum and pricing for alternate add on option with GMK ABS I can probably get them to finalize.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #515 on: Sat, 18 January 2014, 16:02:40 »
The only way you can get some alternate layout is if you want to meet the minimum 20set tier. If you can do that I will do the set up to print any layout in any font you would like.

Are you saying that for example if out of the folks already in on the black on black set, 20 would ask you to have Control instead of Caps Lock you would add this as an option? Sorry if am being dense.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #516 on: Sat, 18 January 2014, 17:52:07 »
This offer is more geared towards a reseller. Basically it's an incentive so they can have some 'unique' set to avoid competition with other reseller selling 100% identical set otherwise. It's just something to give a differentiation. Say for example they could get some sets made with US/KO layout and use Gulim typeface. While another reseller could have sets in some edgier font like Knarf Art.

However if a group of people want to pool together to have something specific made I won't stop you of course.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #517 on: Sat, 18 January 2014, 18:12:35 »
I might change my order from blanks to side printed.
I red somewhere people reporting problems with thick PBT with Costar stabilizers, if this is the case how can we prevent/fix it?

I have the Imsto Thick PBT caps on my Costar stabilizers now but not having any problems... What problems are you talking about?

Some people reported the wire of the stabs would grind on the inside of the cap when you press the key.
Perhaps the combo of thick PBT caps in Cherry profile + new (LED friendly) style Costar stabs...

From what I've read the grinding/hanging issue is pretty hit or miss and only affects costar stabs. Some people don't have any issues and others claim the afflicted keys border on unusable. The fix is usually to lightly sand down the inside wall of the keycap that rubs on the stabilizer.

This post has some good info and even some pictures to illustrate this - http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=26454#msg497261

I had a set of Imsto thick PBT that would get stuck when I bottomed out the enter and shift keys. But after about 2 days of good use they were broken in and stopped sticking.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #518 on: Sat, 18 January 2014, 22:20:34 »
Is there a deadline for this buy? Or does it just go when the MOQ is met? Sorry if this answered somewhere already.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #519 on: Sun, 19 January 2014, 01:22:18 »
Is there a deadline for this buy? Or does it just go when the MOQ is met? Sorry if this answered somewhere already.
No deadline yet, this gb only need to met the MOQ.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #520 on: Mon, 20 January 2014, 11:25:45 »
Is there a deadline for this buy? Or does it just go when the MOQ is met? Sorry if this answered somewhere already.
No deadline yet, this gb only need to met the MOQ.

Cool, thanks :)

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #521 on: Mon, 20 January 2014, 20:27:32 »
Tis a shame it hasn't hit MOQ already; I see tons of people asking for blank PBT sets all the time and not taking this opportunity is gonna hurt people in the long run..

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #522 on: Mon, 20 January 2014, 21:24:14 »
indeed. I hope we reach MOQ soon!
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #523 on: Tue, 21 January 2014, 12:29:18 »
Some good news, some bad news... in regard to PLUM their MOQ is 100 sets lower which is the good news. The bad news is imsto says there is some problem with 1.5 mods and 1.75 shifts so they won't make those available to us at this time. So I will go with the original idea to offer blank ABS adapter kit from GMK. GMK promised to have the quote for that and the EDOX kit to me in a few more days so I should be able to get all options finalized and update accordingly by end of week.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #524 on: Tue, 21 January 2014, 12:43:28 »

Some good news, some bad news... in regard to PLUM their MOQ is 100 sets lower which is the good news. The bad news is imsto says there is some problem with 1.5 mods and 1.75 shifts so they won't make those available to us at this time. So I will go with the original idea to offer blank ABS adapter kit from GMK. GMK promised to have the quote for that and the EDOX kit to me in a few more days so I should be able to get all options finalized and update accordingly by end of week.

Is the issue with 1.5 mods and 1.75 shifts an issue at Plum factory? Or at imsto's factory? Or are we still working with imsto to go through plum? I am confuse.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #525 on: Tue, 21 January 2014, 12:49:50 »

Some good news, some bad news... in regard to PLUM their MOQ is 100 sets lower which is the good news. The bad news is imsto says there is some problem with 1.5 mods and 1.75 shifts so they won't make those available to us at this time. So I will go with the original idea to offer blank ABS adapter kit from GMK. GMK promised to have the quote for that and the EDOX kit to me in a few more days so I should be able to get all options finalized and update accordingly by end of week.

Is the issue with 1.5 mods and 1.75 shifts an issue at Plum factory? Or at imsto's factory? Or are we still working with imsto to go through plum? I am confuse.

I don't think Plum offers those sizes, if Imsto can't offer them then we're SOL. GMK blanks aren't the worst thing in the world though!
It's a good width!  If it's half-width it's too narrow, and full-width is too wide. 

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #526 on: Tue, 21 January 2014, 13:00:25 »
I'll take GMK blanks. Honestly my problem is owning keyboards with dumb layouts.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #527 on: Tue, 21 January 2014, 13:09:47 »
Some good news, some bad news... in regard to PLUM their MOQ is 100 sets lower which is the good news. The bad news is imsto says there is some problem with 1.5 mods and 1.75 shifts so they won't make those available to us at this time. So I will go with the original idea to offer blank ABS adapter kit from GMK. GMK promised to have the quote for that and the EDOX kit to me in a few more days so I should be able to get all options finalized and update accordingly by end of week.

Forgive my ignorance, but can you give us some more info about the issue with the 1.5 and 1.75 keys? From what I understand that means we would have three GMK ABS keys and the rest PBT? Personally I would much rather have a higher MOQ if it meant we would have a full PBT set rather than a mixed PBT/ABS set. I use tab and backslash non-stop and for those keys to be ABS would be very close to being a deal-breaker for me.

Edit - Is this graphic correct for which keys would be ABS? http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/media/keycap_layout.jpg
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #528 on: Tue, 21 January 2014, 13:39:46 »
I think the pbt is going to be the standard layout in the OP pictures. But, ABS keys are going to be added to support the other modifiers and the iso kit.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #529 on: Tue, 21 January 2014, 13:42:43 »
Some good news, some bad news... in regard to PLUM their MOQ is 100 sets lower which is the good news. The bad news is imsto says there is some problem with 1.5 mods and 1.75 shifts so they won't make those available to us at this time. So I will go with the original idea to offer blank ABS adapter kit from GMK. GMK promised to have the quote for that and the EDOX kit to me in a few more days so I should be able to get all options finalized and update accordingly by end of week.

Forgive my ignorance, but can you give us some more info about the issue with the 1.5 and 1.75 keys? From what I understand that means we would have three GMK ABS keys and the rest PBT? Personally I would much rather have a higher MOQ if it meant we would have a full PBT set rather than a mixed PBT/ABS set. I use tab and backslash non-stop and for those keys to be ABS would be very close to being a deal-breaker for me.

Edit - Is this graphic correct for which keys would be ABS? http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/media/keycap_layout.jpg

The keys affected as far as I know are the 1.75 right shift, 1.5 ctrl/alt (not a problem unless you have an old keyboard or Korean custom) and possibly ISO keys.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #530 on: Tue, 21 January 2014, 14:27:57 »
OK... sorry for being confusing. I have explained this before but it's spread around the thread in several posts so I will just summarize the situation.
Originally we were going to have them made with KBC Cherry thicks like my previous PBT groupbuys, and the OP still reflects that. Then I found out it was possible to get PBTs from another source, PLUM. Plum makes their own keycaps, and uses Cherry thick on the Neo Zelia, and Plum96 models. They also make the Choc mini - which is where the 1.5 and 1.75 would have come from. Unfortunately they won't offer those keys to other customer at this time... I guess the molds are owned by/exclusive for Noppoo or something like this.

Regardless if go with KBC or PLUM... now we have the same key selection, same limitation there... but PLUM has a smaller MOQ which is helpful. The dyesubbing is actually like a 3rd party service with imsto, so it dosen't really matter to them where the keycap is from.
Now where GMK comes in, is neither PBT source can supply us with 1.5 mods, 1.75 shifts, ISO enter, 7x spacebar or nice windowed lock keys. So either we can use a few ABS keys to make the set work for some more keyboards or have nothing... I will let buyer decide by offering a choice. If you want the GMK ABS extras, it will be separate item for extra cost so you can get them if you need/want them.

I hope this explains better what is going on and makes sense to you all.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #531 on: Tue, 21 January 2014, 14:30:37 »
How thick are the PBT caps from SP?
It's a good width!  If it's half-width it's too narrow, and full-width is too wide. 

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #532 on: Tue, 21 January 2014, 14:31:15 »
I refuse to use SP for any reason. I ****ing HATE DCS.

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« Reply #533 on: Tue, 21 January 2014, 14:52:24 »
Thank you very much for the clear explanation, Ivan  :thumb: . You answered all of my questions.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #534 on: Tue, 21 January 2014, 15:38:53 »
I refuse to use SP for any reason. I ****ing HATE DCS.

You preach the truth. I am thankful to find a like-minded individual.
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« Reply #535 on: Tue, 21 January 2014, 16:34:40 »
order submitted! Thanks Lysol. I mean, erm, Ivan  :cool:
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #536 on: Tue, 21 January 2014, 16:57:10 »
I refuse to use SP for any reason. I ****ing HATE DCS.

You preach the truth. I am thankful to find a like-minded individual.

I have two dcs sets. After using dsa and gmk, I can't go back to dcs.

I can't get past the thinness and the bottom two rows of the dcs profile.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #537 on: Tue, 21 January 2014, 17:02:14 »
The keys affected as far as I know are the 1.75 right shift, 1.5 ctrl/alt (not a problem unless you have an old keyboard or Korean custom) and possibly ISO keys.

Thank you for clarifying that. So for a Filco board it is essentially a non-issue? I could have a complete PBT set?

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #538 on: Tue, 21 January 2014, 20:48:57 »
I refuse to use SP for any reason. I ****ing HATE DCS.

You preach the truth. I am thankful to find a like-minded individual.

I have two dcs sets. After using dsa and gmk, I can't go back to dcs.

I can't get past the thinness and the bottom two rows of the dcs profile.

Ah, I know what you mean now. I just thought that aesthetically the DCS seemed rather ugly compared to Cherry and OEM profile, could just be me.
How do spherical caps feel? I've always been scared away because they aren't sculptured, but what do you think of them in typing?
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #539 on: Tue, 21 January 2014, 23:42:04 »
The keys affected as far as I know are the 1.75 right shift, 1.5 ctrl/alt (not a problem unless you have an old keyboard or Korean custom) and possibly ISO keys.

Thank you for clarifying that. So for a Filco board it is essentially a non-issue? I could have a complete PBT set?

yes. your filco will 100% pbt.

How do spherical caps feel? I've always been scared away because they aren't sculptured, but what do you think of them in typing?

if you're really precise with your typing (always hitting the center) OR you're so unprecise that you end up hitting the corner/side edges of the top surface anyways (me), DSA won't be a problem if you can hold a iphone 4 nicely (so if you're not a tiny asian girl, you're fine), except possibly the f-row.  people who are 'medium' accurate will find that they hit the edge of the cap since the top is smaller.

you DO feel like the lack of sculpting in the number row and to a lesser degree, the spacebar row.  will that affect typing?  for a 60wpm typer, not an issue (for more than that, i can't say).  also something to note, for some reason, DSA caps FEEL like there is more than 4mm of tracal, making it easier to not bottom out.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #540 on: Wed, 22 January 2014, 01:41:50 »
The keys affected as far as I know are the 1.75 right shift, 1.5 ctrl/alt (not a problem unless you have an old keyboard or Korean custom) and possibly ISO keys.

Thank you for clarifying that. So for a Filco board it is essentially a non-issue? I could have a complete PBT set?

yes. your filco will 100% pbt.

How do spherical caps feel? I've always been scared away because they aren't sculptured, but what do you think of them in typing?

if you're really precise with your typing (always hitting the center) OR you're so unprecise that you end up hitting the corner/side edges of the top surface anyways (me), DSA won't be a problem if you can hold a iphone 4 nicely (so if you're not a tiny asian girl, you're fine), except possibly the f-row.  people who are 'medium' accurate will find that they hit the edge of the cap since the top is smaller.

you DO feel like the lack of sculpting in the number row and to a lesser degree, the spacebar row.  will that affect typing?  for a 60wpm typer, not an issue (for more than that, i can't say).  also something to note, for some reason, DSA caps FEEL like there is more than 4mm of tracal, making it easier to not bottom out.

Hmm, I couldn't imagine that lack of sculpting would be that bad, but I imagine that it would be noticeable in a somewhat unpleasant sense. Spherical as you describe it seems quite good, perhaps I'll give it a try in my spare time.

As far as not bottoming out, that's not a problem, haha. Typing without bottoming out on OEM caps isn't too bad, even at 150 wpm+.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #541 on: Wed, 22 January 2014, 01:51:46 »
Just a placed an order for black on black.  ;D
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #542 on: Wed, 22 January 2014, 02:05:42 »
Still haven't placed an order quite yet. Was there any more word on doing a Filco Ninja-Style side print dyesub? If so, how much are we looking at? I really want to place an order for these, but I'm a bit tight on cash and am not sure if I'm good enough a typist for the complete blanks. I can touch type fine outside of some of the lesser used ones like brackets and what not, lol.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #543 on: Wed, 22 January 2014, 07:50:13 »
If I placed an order using the form already, can I use the form again to add another set to my order?

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #544 on: Wed, 22 January 2014, 07:57:20 »
If I placed an order using the form already, can I use the form again to add another set to my order?

If you saved the link from your first order you can edit it.

Otherwise you have to place a new order, but keep in mind that you overwrite your first order if you place a second one. So in your case the second order has to contain two separate sets and not just one.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #545 on: Wed, 22 January 2014, 08:22:11 »
If I placed an order using the form already, can I use the form again to add another set to my order?

If you saved the link from your first order you can edit it.

Otherwise you have to place a new order, but keep in mind that you overwrite your first order if you place a second one. So in your case the second order has to contain two separate sets and not just one.

Great! Thanks for the info :)

I didn't save the old link, so I'll make a new order with both sets.

I really hope this meets MOQ soon.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #546 on: Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:02:50 »
Me too. The printing on my stock Poker II keys are beginning to fade..
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #547 on: Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:15:07 »
Wish I can have my own layout. But meh, I need at least 20 sets to get them. :(

Question, legends are still black if I'm able to have my own layout?

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #548 on: Wed, 22 January 2014, 12:03:52 »
With dyesub you can only have a darker color than the keycap, so on a black set that does limit you to an even darker black for legends. If you want to order 20+ for a specific layout can also have laser option if you would rather to get a lighter legend color. Laser is same price as dyesub.

Still some discussion going on about doing sideprint. It may become an option, just keep an eye on the OP if it appears there. Sideprint dyesub would be same price as rest of printed set.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition] NEW choices
« Reply #549 on: Wed, 22 January 2014, 12:28:50 »


I would be very down with getting one each of a blank, Cherry replica, and side-print makeup.