loose fitting trousers show no sign of making a return
my next phone will be bigger whether I want it or not
My current Google phone is 6"/14cm tall and 3"/7cm wide. I really don't want a phone bigger than that,That's about the same size as my current phone, it's already too big.
I actually buy my pants at least one size too large and sew darts into the waist band at back. Goofy? probably Comfortable? definitelyOne size larger waist in "comfort" fit means I can put something in my pocket, buying the correct size looks like I'm wearing skinny jeans. My sister bought me some skinny jeans in the right waist size for Christmas one year and I couldn't get the waist past my knee. Maybe I just need to learn tailoring and buy bigger...
I hate phones with huge screensIs that actually sold as a phone?! I'd go back to T9 before trying to carry something that big.
...my cheekbone occurs at the same point as the "hang up" point on many of the screens, and I have inadvertently hung up on many calls.HAhahaha ;D :)) :)) You made me laugh this morning, so funny :)
I do not say it's a good evolution or a bad one, it's just like that, personally I rarely use my phone and I still prefer doing stuffs on a real computer with a mouse and a keyboard. I just use it when I'm out of my house, as a simple phone or just to check my Whatsapp and my mails. If I'm out and i need to do something, I just share my data connection and use my Thinkpad.That big phones exist is a good thing but for the many people like us the lack of a small option is bad. I've considered getting a dumbphone and tethering something but typing the odd text on T9 (numberpad) is not something that was ever fun and having to remember to charge the phone as well as something bigger isn't appealing, plus as you say having a handy small internet device does have it's uses.
My phones is also bigger than smaller - 15x7cm.Another example of a stupid forced "upgrade" - who wants a slippery, fragile phone back? It's hard enough to keep the screen in one piece without worrying about the back too >:D
I managed to break rear glass panel - I keep my phone in front left pocket - when I sit in my car, I push my thigh against the wheel and it always pushes on the phone - after 3 years of having that phone I noticed I managed to crash rear panel after I took off phone cover :(
I too am starting to find this annoying. Have been using front pockets for a phone & a card wallet forever but over the past year, I've started to store my wallet in my backpack or shirt pocket due to using Google Pay more. But I really have no solution for my phone, it's an essential item I don't leave my house without. I can't stash it in my backpack, it's just too cumbersome to get if there's a call or a message (who uses phone to call nowadays anyways lol). I also have no need for a smartwatch to answer phone calls, that seems unnecessary as well.ipod nanos were tiny and weighed nothing, there were phone sized armbands but pretty sure they gave up at around 4" screens. Unless you have big arms it would just stick out too much and the weight would pull it down annoyingly.
Maybe a weird armband like those iPod Nanos from 2010's? Still, phones are larger, it would probably be uncomfortable for smaller arms.Show Image(http://luckyretail.com/Uploadfile/009413/009413%20(1).jpg)
My phones is also bigger than smaller - 15x7cm.Another example of a stupid forced "upgrade" - who wants a slippery, fragile phone back? It's hard enough to keep the screen in one piece without worrying about the back too >:D
I managed to break rear glass panel - I keep my phone in front left pocket - when I sit in my car, I push my thigh against the wheel and it always pushes on the phone - after 3 years of having that phone I noticed I managed to crash rear panel after I took off phone cover :(
Exactly, yes. I cannot hold stock phone in my hand, having glass on both sides, practically no frame around, its so slippery that I hate it.
Who the f*** makes rear glass panels? WHY?
I liked Samsung S2, which was small and big enough, was easier to hold in hand etc
Exactly, yes. I cannot hold stock phone in my hand, having glass on both sides, practically no frame around, its so slippery that I hate it.
Who the f*** makes rear glass panels? WHY?
I liked Samsung S2, which was small and big enough, was easier to hold in hand etc
Because today the "look" is more important the practicality. The tech industry should open a dictionary and review the definition of the word "design". because it is clear that they have absolutely not understood what it is.
There is tones of examples, if we compare a ThinkPad X230 and one of the latest models, we see that today, repairability, robustness and ergonomics are not important, what matters is that it's thin and shiny. It's quite pathetic.
who wants a slippery, fragile phone back?
As for [moronic] customers, if two phones are side by side most people will default to thinner and larger, even to their own detriment.I guess for half the population (females) size doesn't make much difference - most of you have a bag to throw it in. I asked the same question on another unrelated forum with an older userbase and they were 90% against big phones, with most happily using their 5+ year old ones. Do they have a shock in store when the time to "upgrade" comes...
if two phones are side by side most people will default to thinner and larger
an older userbase and they were 90% against big phones
I do not say it's a good evolution or a bad one, it's just like that, personally I rarely use my phone and I still prefer doing stuffs on a real computer with a mouse and a keyboard. I just use it when I'm out of my house, as a simple phone or just to check my Whatsapp and my mails. If I'm out and i need to do something, I just share my data connection and use my Thinkpad.
I have to say the Cat S22 Flip (https://www.gsmarena.com/cat_s22_flip-11141.php) is weirdly intriguing. A bit on the heavy side,
with its T-Mobile exclusivity
The only 2 cons I can see are no 3.5mm jack and no 5G, but those are not insurmountable.Interesting list, 5G is absolutely useless to this non city dweller but a 3.5mm jack is essential. My other con aside from the obvious T9 texting would be that's it's not modder friendly - no way am I carrying a google tracker in my pocket.
I guess for half the population (females) size doesn't make much difference - most of you have a bag to throw it in.Women bend more Iphones (and phones in general) than men because we don't carry a purse around at work and due to the stupid small pockets on our pants we have to put them in our back pocket. Front pockets can put stress on it but it's nothing compared to the stress of sitting on it. So yeah, it matters to us.
Most tech people are over it.I do not say it's a good evolution or a bad one, it's just like that, personally I rarely use my phone and I still prefer doing stuffs on a real computer with a mouse and a keyboard. I just use it when I'm out of my house, as a simple phone or just to check my Whatsapp and my mails. If I'm out and i need to do something, I just share my data connection and use my Thinkpad.
This. There's basically nothing I do on my phone that I don't enjoy doing more on something else.
That IS interesting, I didn't know it was out there. The only 2 cons I can see are no 3.5mm jack and no 5G, but those are not insurmountable.
Fitting into a normal pocket is the #1 requirement for me.
Women bend more Iphones (and phones in general) than men because we don't carry a purse around at work and due to the stupid small pockets on our pants we have to put them in our back pocket.Oh, it makes even less sense then. I've only worked in offices with women where phones went from bag to desk and in entirely male jobs where you're not bound to a desk so hadn't noticed.
Price is for me the #1 argument. I can't accept to spend more than $200 in a phone.Is that $200 up front or across your 1 or 2 year contract? Unless you're willing to pretend to not have a smartphone as I do by putting it in 2G only mode and barely touching it I don't think you have a hope of getting the battery life at any cost, let alone on a budget. My 6 year old Sony will go a working week spending 9 hours a day trying to find a signal which barely exists but screen on time can be measured in seconds rather than hours a day which wouldn't be acceptable to most people.
Battery is also important, I want to have a phone that last at least 3 or 4 days on battery without charge.
Finally, big size is not a problem anymore, at the beginning yes but now, not really, I just keep it in my hand and not in my pocket.
Most tech people are over it.Is this the real source of the problem? Tech people gave up so now they just make stuff for the mindless masses who will buy whatever is readily available however poorly it suits them, so just make it big and expensive to maximise profits?
We passed peak cell phone pretty fast to be honest, it's just a limited platform due to size and lack of input.
I guess for half the population (females) size doesn't make much difference - most of you have a bag to throw it in.Women bend more Iphones (and phones in general) than men because we don't carry a purse around at work and due to the stupid small pockets on our pants we have to put them in our back pocket. Front pockets can put stress on it but it's nothing compared to the stress of sitting on it. So yeah, it matters to us.
You'd be surprised how many women buy men's pants because of this (and because they last longer).
I guess for half the population (females) size doesn't make much difference - most of you have a bag to throw it in.Women bend more Iphones (and phones in general) than men because we don't carry a purse around at work and due to the stupid small pockets on our pants we have to put them in our back pocket. Front pockets can put stress on it but it's nothing compared to the stress of sitting on it. So yeah, it matters to us.
You'd be surprised how many women buy men's pants because of this (and because they last longer).
Tp4 recommends Cargo Pants.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zkdP3qz.gif)
Yeah, but then you will be hitting it passing by desks, door frames etc. Was there done that... :)
Yeah, but then you will be hitting it passing by desks, door frames etc. Was there done that... :)Screen always faces your body.
Is that $200 up front or across your 1 or 2 year contract? Unless you're willing to pretend to not have a smartphone as I do by putting it in 2G only mode and barely touching it I don't think you have a hope of getting the battery life at any cost, let alone on a budget. My 6 year old Sony will go a working week spending 9 hours a day trying to find a signal which barely exists but screen on time can be measured in seconds rather than hours a day which wouldn't be acceptable to most people.That's up front and it is changing.
I guess if you work from home or go on a train to the office you can hold your phone in your hand but it's definitely not an option that would work for me cycling to work and walking round using my hands all day.
Is this the real source of the problem? Tech people gave up so now they just make stuff for the mindless masses who will buy whatever is readily available however poorly it suits them, so just make it big and expensive to maximise profits?Not the source of the problem but it's the canary in the coal mine.
Until recently, in general the phone you pick didn't alter the contract price, more and more now are pushing towards financing it over the life of the contract. While it sounds better, they didn't lower the plan cost, they just offloaded the phone so people now pay more than they did and it's all profit.The last time I bought a phone on contract this is how I remember it, that was in 2010. Today for unlimited data it's 24x£25 for sim only or £30 up front and 24x£62 for the 128GB iphone 13 mini, so £918 for the phone, which is available from Apple for £679. Alternately the Fairphone 4 is £499 direct or 24x£48 on the unlimited data contract, which works out at £552 for the phone. Interestingly to me as someone who's used no data so far this year the 1GB/month option on the Fairphone is £30 up front plus 24x£31 while sim only is 24x£14 which means the phone is a bargain at £438, and the iphone with 4GB/month is £80 plus 24x£47 while 3GB/month sim only is 24x£17 which is £800 for the phone. So yes, they're definitely making more money on the expensive contracts whether on a "high end" phone or not (though perhaps the fairphone is still a premium model...) The most basic option is a Doro at 24x£27 for 4GB/month so £240 for the phone, it's RRP on Amazon is only £178.
How it used to work is
You would get a free phone and pay $80 per month or you could pay $200 up front and get a high end phone and then pay $80 per month.
The last time I bought a phone on contract
The last time I bought a phone on contract this is how I remember it, that was in 2010.We've started heading that same direction but only in the last year or two.
Today for unlimited data it's 24x£25 for sim only or £30 up front and 24x£62 for the 128GB iphone 13 mini, so £918 for the phone, which is available from Apple for £679.
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Seems sim only is once again the right choice but do I commit to a low-data lifestyle long term?
As for low data... It takes dedication, a bit of cash and some self control, I rarely go much over a gig and I stream a lot of music, without that I could often get by with a few hundred megs.Here's my data usage, this would go back to September if they let it.
Your guide looks great for anyone who is happy carrying a google tracker and use it as intended though :thumb:
I guess I dont use data so much, as I usually use around 2-3GB per month.
I'd be super into something like this, but unsure how you actually use it as a phone. As long as you don't need to unfold it to use it as utility.Impressive technically but looks like there's a gap inside the hinge when it's folded. Add that to the screen being exposed on both sides so you can't protect it with your leg and I think it would be unusable after a week in my pocket (https://cdn.geekhack.org/Smileys/solosmileys/laugh.gif)
I'd be super into something like this, but unsure how you actually use it as a phone. As long as you don't need to unfold it to use it as utility.Impressive technically but looks like there's a gap inside the hinge when it's folded. Add that to the screen being exposed on both sides so you can't protect it with your leg and I think it would be unusable after a week in my pocketShow Image(https://cdn.geekhack.org/Smileys/solosmileys/laugh.gif)