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Offline zekkin

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[IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« on: Wed, 06 March 2019, 17:36:07 »
Yves
(Pronunciation: ​Eve [iv])

     Yves is a simple sandwich mounted numpad w/ "function" row (i.e. 24 keys) in the same form factor as the TGR-Tris. Pair this with your favorite TKL for a timeless combination.

     

     

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Background Information:

I've been getting into designing my own things since around August of this past year and while I do have some more substantial designs like a TKL (RBB) and 78-key (Murakumo) designed (both of which having been thoroughly teased in #kb-kustoms), they require more work and more resources before I would feel comfortable running a group buy. Between now and then however I'd like to present a numpad. These seem to be falling out of interest in favor of more dedicated macropad layouts so I'd like to bring it back.

In my opinion, running a group buy for this will not only bring back to the community something that I don't think many people (including myself) have had the chance to get, but it will also give me the opportunity to more closely ascertain what my capacity as well as capability is when it comes to future projects (i.e. group buys). With all that having been said...

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Layout:



The Kit:
  • 1x Top Piece
  • 1x Bottom Piece
  • 1x Plate
  • 1x Voyager20 PCB
  • 4x M2x8mm Screws (from McMaster-Carr)

Appearance:
  • Case Material: 6063 Aluminum - Sandblasted (Matte finish)
  • Plate Material: 6063 Aluminum (Sandblasted & Anodized) or Brass (Sandblasted, Uncoated)
  • Case Anodization: Black, Silver, Gray (only solid colors allowed -- no two-tone)
  • Plate Anodization Options: Black, Silver, Gray, Red

Details:
  • PCB: Voyager20 from ai03 w/ Red solder mask
  • IC Timeline: 2-3 months
  • GB Timeline: Unknown
  • Limit: 10-15 units (10 is ideal, 15 is max capacity)
  • Ideal Price: $125-175

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Q&A

1) Will you support x layout?

     Beyond what is shown above, no.

2) Will you sell extra plates and PCBs?

     Sure.

3) Will you make slight changes to your design because I'd really like you to?

     No.

4) Will you offer all sorts of colors like blue, purple, gold, or green?

     No.

5) Will you offer a diffuser and/or RGB features?

     No.

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Feel free to hit me up here in this thread, through PM, or on Discord (zekkin#0001) if you wanna chat about this at all!

Thanks!
« Last Edit: Wed, 06 March 2019, 21:40:03 by zekkin »

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 06 March 2019, 17:37:20 »
Yes

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 06 March 2019, 17:37:29 »
UwU
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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 06 March 2019, 17:38:37 »
Yes!


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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 06 March 2019, 17:41:53 »
Need muh numbahs looks great

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 06 March 2019, 17:47:13 »
Nice!!

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 06 March 2019, 17:49:30 »
hello it is very beautiful sir  :)
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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 06 March 2019, 17:58:46 »
Y(v)ES


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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 06 March 2019, 18:11:46 »
Yves please
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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 06 March 2019, 18:47:54 »
Want one for osu!

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 06 March 2019, 20:52:14 »
Nice  :)

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 06 March 2019, 20:55:16 »
Yes, for this.
I've been hearing jokes on streams about a "Seulgi" board. Is that you, too?
If so, please put a bear on it. Or on this as a teaser.

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 06 March 2019, 21:28:52 »
Very naijs :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 06 March 2019, 21:33:53 »
Yes, for this.
I've been hearing jokes on streams about a "Seulgi" board. Is that you, too?
If so, please put a bear on it. Or on this as a teaser.

Haha yeah that's me.  :cool:

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 06 March 2019, 21:38:19 »
i'd love one. any chance for a diffuser?

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 06 March 2019, 21:38:59 »
i'd love one. any chance for a diffuser?

Definitely no diffusers or RGB happening with this, sorry.

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 06 March 2019, 21:47:38 »



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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 06 March 2019, 22:01:08 »
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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 06 March 2019, 23:51:30 »
Looks nice! Do you have a picture of the side profile handy? This may match well with a TKL of mine.
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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 07 March 2019, 03:24:28 »
Looks nice! Do you have a picture of the side profile handy? This may match well with a TKL of mine.

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 07 March 2019, 05:47:00 »
I've been thinking about replacing my cheap numpad recently and have found options lacking so this could fill that void.  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 07 March 2019, 07:42:11 »
Looks nice! Do you have a picture of the side profile handy? This may match well with a TKL of mine.

(Attachment Link)

This one looks a bit better.



I took inspiration from the OTD Koala and QXP for the bottom.
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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 07 March 2019, 09:21:05 »
USB-C?

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 07 March 2019, 09:43:52 »
Am very want.
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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 07 March 2019, 09:58:54 »
Need to finally get a numpad now.
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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 07 March 2019, 10:08:32 »
USB-C?

Yes, the entire Voyager series uses USB-C.

Give me a little while to get my blank PCBs soldered, need to order the components and then solder at my local maker space.
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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 07 March 2019, 10:26:39 »
Would be interested given time and cost (I know some of that info has a general idea right now but more definitive).

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #27 on: Thu, 07 March 2019, 12:47:32 »
  • Limit: 10-15 units (10 is ideal, 15 is max capacity)

Please excuse my ignorance, but does this mean a maximum of 15 units will be produced in total? Gonna be lots of sad nerds out there if so. Probably me included haha.
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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #28 on: Thu, 07 March 2019, 13:12:56 »
  • Limit: 10-15 units (10 is ideal, 15 is max capacity)

Please excuse my ignorance, but does this mean a maximum of 15 units will be produced in total? Gonna be lots of sad nerds out there if so. Probably me included haha.

Unfortunately, yes. There are two routes this can go down:

1) In-stock sale
2) Group buy

In the case of an in-stock sale, I'm only willing to front the cost of a maximum of 15 units plus various extras. In the case of a group buy, I need to set a very hard limit as to how many people will be able to participate -- this would be my first formal group buy and I refuse to overextend just so a few more people can get a board.

There's a common question that pops up in every IC thread that goes something like, "why aren't you producing as many boards as are ordered? why do you keep this game of artificial scarcity going?"

I might've touched on this in those threads where I found the opportunity, but since this is my design I'll address it immediately:

Let's say you design a keyboard that has 4 parts:

- Top
- Bottom
- Plate
- PCB

Let's say I get 20 of each part (5 extras for each to account for QC swaps) -- that's 80 separate pieces to inspect slowly and methodically. If something is really messed up, parts will need to be sent back to the manufacturer (in China) to be reworked or redone altogether. I am not Massdrop, I am not zFrontier, I am not an established vendor. I'm one guy living in a relatively small apartment in New York City.

What I'm getting at is that I do not have the capacity to do more than 10-15 units of QC, packing, and shipping. I want to deliver on what I set out to deliver on with this interest check, and that does not involve pushing the goal posts back to constantly appease the community wants.

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #29 on: Thu, 07 March 2019, 13:17:16 »
  • Limit: 10-15 units (10 is ideal, 15 is max capacity)

Please excuse my ignorance, but does this mean a maximum of 15 units will be produced in total? Gonna be lots of sad nerds out there if so. Probably me included haha.

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Makes sense dude. Thanks for the clarification. The way I see it is you're doing us a favor, so set whatever limit you want. Hope to get in on it, but I'll keep my panties un-bunched and without tears if I don't get in.

Hope it goes smooth dude!  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #30 on: Thu, 07 March 2019, 13:59:54 »
Looks good! Definitely interested

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #31 on: Thu, 07 March 2019, 17:14:30 »
Yes, very interested!

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #32 on: Thu, 07 March 2019, 20:04:38 »
Threw some caps on to get a nice idea of what that'll look like :thumb:





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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #33 on: Thu, 07 March 2019, 22:03:23 »
Yes! I've been looking for a numpad with an additional row for AutoCAD work.


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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #34 on: Thu, 07 March 2019, 22:15:25 »
the side profile pictures have sold me. i think i'd probably go for silver, depending on how the gray may look.

don't know much about the voyager pcbs but based on the github it seems it'll have qmk compatibility so it'll generally have the ability to remap keys?

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #35 on: Thu, 07 March 2019, 22:26:21 »
the side profile pictures have sold me. i think i'd probably go for silver, depending on how the gray may look.

don't know much about the voyager pcbs but based on the github it seems it'll have qmk compatibility so it'll generally have the ability to remap keys?

Absolutely, you'll have the full power of QMK.

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #36 on: Sat, 09 March 2019, 11:59:51 »
Good looking. Good work.

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 10 March 2019, 05:22:01 »
excited for this. i hope this reaches enough interest because numpads are kinda less loved
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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #38 on: Sun, 10 March 2019, 11:17:04 »
Nice job.  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #39 on: Sun, 10 March 2019, 12:15:27 »
Any plan for wireless?

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #40 on: Sun, 10 March 2019, 13:52:37 »
Any plan for wireless?

No wireless because this pcb is designed by ai03. He even said that he won't make major changes.
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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #41 on: Mon, 11 March 2019, 15:11:11 »
Interested as well for this one !
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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #42 on: Tue, 12 March 2019, 08:34:08 »
I'm a real sucker for hangul engravings. Interested!

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #43 on: Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:03:08 »
Hi everyone, update time!

After spending some time with the prototype and picking at the details, I think these are the things I'll be changing, separated out into three categories:

Definite:
- Widen bump-on depression diameter from 8mm to 8.1mm.
- Reduce threading depth from 9mm to 6mm.
- Change from M2 to M2.5.
- Reduce plate/bottom piece tolerance from 0.25mm to 0.1mm.

Probably:
- Additional top/bottom mounting points (from 4 to 6). This will make sure the seam is fully flush all the way around the board.
- Reduce front face height by 1-2mm.
- Reduce back face height by 3-5mm.

Maybe:
- Center USB port.
- Switch to top mount.
- Add through weight. Always chasing after the TGR-Tris styling.

Miscellaneous Information:
- There will be another prototype round.
- Koala bottom is go.
- Expect a very nice, smooth finish.
- Colors are still WIP -- the black prototype I received for this is quite nice, but still not perfect. I got a prototype of another keyboard yesterday in silver and will need to communicate with the manufacturer to take a little better care with the parts (small scratches, hook marks, etc). Still pretty sure colors will be very very basic.

Since some of these ideas are a bit involved I may have to completely redo the design -- not a big deal, just will require a bit more time. If anyone has any ideas please do feel free to suggest anything. If you think any of the above changes wouldn't be good for you, make sure you let me know!
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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #44 on: Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:12:43 »
Will finish be smooth like iPhone and/or MacBook?

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:13:52 »
Will finish be smooth like iPhone and/or MacBook?

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #46 on: Tue, 19 March 2019, 13:24:17 »
Good changes IMO.

Center USB + possible addition of weight = closer to Tris styling. 


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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #47 on: Tue, 19 March 2019, 16:04:22 »
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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #48 on: Tue, 19 March 2019, 16:11:28 »
i really like it.. FCFS ?

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Re: [IC] Yves (Numpad w/ Function Row)
« Reply #49 on: Fri, 22 March 2019, 20:58:14 »
Would be in..

Seems like you will have way more than 15.