[IC] Andromeda: Ultra-High-End Sculpted TKL - GB Oct 24

[LOLWK]

Because it clearly was, I'm not sure how you're not seeing that. This feels rushed to me, but to each their own. There is no true refinement here for $750, no choice of anything really for a "custom keyboard," plain pcb that looks worst than a cheap keyboard, cut-outs that overlap with switches, possible broken daughter ports, very limited quantity...I didn't want to go into all of this but seriously if anyone is entitled here are designers that expect all of you to eat up whatever is served.

Jesus your entitlement is outright disgusting.

Please. Feel free to design your own keyboard.
Then we'll see how "rushed" your **** will be.

You apparently have absolutely no ****ing clue what goes into making a keyboard like this.
How much time, money and sleepless nights a designer has to pour into a project like this for prototyping, solving problems and organizing stuff with vendors.

This was advertised as a "cost no object" keyboard and yet you are here, crying about the pricetag. Do you even hear yourself talking?

But yeah. I'm sure if you design a keyboard everything will be perfectly well planned out with 100 different color options right?
Please just leave this hobby already. Nodody wants entitled idiots like you here... 

You sound like a huge dbag. "my entitlement is outright disgusting," are you for real? I'm not even entitled I'm just raising real concerns here. People had to go on attack mode after a very simple criticism, and then they get hurt when I explain position. But let me tell you what, even if I was, this is a high priced luxury item, I expect the price tag to match the quality as a consumer. If I saw the same with any other item, including from big corporations I would say the same. Stop being a tool, not providing real feedback will only diminish the community. Don't be a yes man, its gross.

You arent providing any real feedback. Thats what youre getting attacked.

[MacSurfy]

I mean, that photo ain't grey, so again, this is really just compounding the problems that are being raised here. And Apiary said the PCB is the final one....

SO, it was confirmed grey and PCB is not final.

This is why its bad to go on assumptions.

[Juggy]

You sound like a huge dbag. "my entitlement is outright disgusting," are you for real? I'm not even entitled I'm just raising real concerns here. But let me tell you what, even if I was this is a high priced luxury item, I expect the price tag to match the quality as a consumer. If I saw the same with any other item, including from big corporations I would say the same. Stop being a tool, not providing real feedback will only diminish the community. Don't be a yes man, its gross.

"Raising real concerns"...
Calling the groupbuy "rushed", "not well planned" while you have absolutely zero ****ing knowledge about what kind of work goes into a design and groupbuy like this is exactly that. Entitlement.

"even if I was this is a high priced luxury item, I expect the price tag to match the quality"
Yeah and you absolutely know the quality of this board right? Jesus...

cut-outs that overlap with switches

Apparently you are even to stupid to understand how a screwless case design works... 

Also:

Lol. I love the assumption that if it's expensive, and custom, it has to have limitless color options for me. Or that protos should be flawless to me. Or that it should be tailored to me. Or that quantity should be unlimited for me. Or that it should be sold for a price and using a method that I should have no problem purchasing it.

Entitlement.

Relax you're going to pop a vein.

[grimis]

I mean, that photo ain't grey, so again, this is really just compounding the problems that are being raised here. And Apiary said the PCB is the final one....

SO, it was confirmed grey and PCB is not final.

This is why its bad to go on assumptions.

Ya, god forbid I use a photo provided by the designer to judge the project, and god forbid I use the information provided by the streamer who was sent the product to promote said product who said the PCB was final.

What a bunch of completely unreasonable assumptions I've made! I'm clearly a very entitled person for drawing conclusions based on the information that was provided to me by the designer and the person responsible for promoting the product.

[MacSurfy]

I mean, that photo ain't grey, so again, this is really just compounding the problems that are being raised here. And Apiary said the PCB is the final one....

SO, it was confirmed grey and PCB is not final.

This is why its bad to go on assumptions.

Ya, god forbid I use a photo provided by the designer to judge the project, and god forbid I use the information provided by the streamer who was sent the product to promote said product who said the PCB was final.

It does not look fully black in the photo, and nobody said it would be black. It could be grey. That's what I am getting at. Unless the designer has said it will be a certain color and the PCB will look a certain way its not official information. That's all.

[meiosis]

Just cerakote or reanodize it.

[Juggy]

You sound like a huge dbag. "my entitlement is outright disgusting," are you for real? I'm not even entitled I'm just raising real concerns here. But let me tell you what, even if I was this is a high priced luxury item, I expect the price tag to match the quality as a consumer. If I saw the same with any other item, including from big corporations I would say the same. Stop being a tool, not providing real feedback will only diminish the community. Don't be a yes man, its gross.

"Raising real concerns"...
Calling the groupbuy "rushed", "not well planned" while you have absolutely zero ****ing knowledge about what kind of work goes into a design and groupbuy like this is exactly that. Entitlement.

"even if I was this is a high priced luxury item, I expect the price tag to match the quality"
Yeah and you absolutely know the quality of this board right? Jesus...

cut-outs that overlap with switches

Apparently you are even to stupid to understand how a screwless case design works... 

Also:

Lol. I love the assumption that if it's expensive, and custom, it has to have limitless color options for me. Or that protos should be flawless to me. Or that it should be tailored to me. Or that quantity should be unlimited for me. Or that it should be sold for a price and using a method that I should have no problem purchasing it.

Entitlement.

Relax you're going to pop a vein.

Ya, god forbid I use a photo provided by the designer to judge the project, and god forbid I use the information provided by the streamer who was sent the product to promote said product who said the PCB was final.

Seriously, we work with the info we are given. The price being announced this late, the colors being announced this late, not even having final mock-ups or any pictures of one of two options one week out is not exactly commendable. The discord was completely locked ages ago and there has been very little communication.  I don't like criticizing people that work hard, and this shouldn't diminish their work, but there needs to be less arrogance and better communication.

[pngu]

This is honestly 😖⚠️ such a huge 📈🍆 disappointment 😔😢 I've been ⏳️ waiting ⏰📆 on this since day 1 👈️ even passing on other ⌨️ boards 🛹 to have a 700💲 price tag🏷️ and only 🥈or grey 🤔 I for sure 💯 there would at least be a black 😋 option 🙏

I think 🤔it's safe to say 💬 📣 this one wasn't planned 📆 📰 well ☝️ and got away from designer 🖍️👶 at some point 👈️

[ai03]

I don't like criticizing people that work hard, and this shouldn't diminish their work, but there needs to be less arrogance and better communication.

Less arrogance -> Give me a time machine so I can check the future so I know when stuff will happen
Better communication -> Discord, as stated in the very first post of the thread

[grimis]

I don't like criticizing people that work hard, and this shouldn't diminish their work, but there needs to be less arrogance and better communication.

Less arrogance -> Give me a time machine so I can check the future so I know when stuff will happen
Better communication -> Discord, as stated in the very first post of the thread

The arrogance part would be treating people like they're children and don't understand how things appear in different lightning. Grey can be light and a grey can look very very dark. All I asked is which way the grey on this board was learning(because the picture you provided was incredibly dark) and I get a spiel about how I shouldn't buy the board because you can't photograph it in absolutely perfect conditions to fill my need for an exact representation of it even though I never asked for that.

[BapoDonu]

This is honestly 😖⚠️ such a huge 📈🍆 disappointment 😔😢 I've been ⏳️ waiting ⏰📆 on this since day 1 👈️ even passing on other ⌨️ boards 🛹 to have a 700💲 price tag🏷️ and only 🥈or grey 🤔 I for sure 💯 there would at least be a black 😋 option 🙏

I think 🤔it's safe to say 💬 📣 this one wasn't planned 📆 📰 well ☝️ and got away from designer 🖍️👶 at some point 👈️

[yui_]

the sheer entitlement in this hobby makes me sick.
it's quite simple really... you don't like the product, you dislike the designer or the ic process, just don't buy it. there is no reason for a designer to change a design to fit your desires just because you think that you deserve it, because you don't.

this drama aside, gl w/ gb ai03. the board looks amazing. sad i won't be joining because budget doesn't allow, gl to all of the sensible people in here who actually want it.

This is honestly 😖⚠️ such a huge 📈🍆 disappointment 😔😢 I've been ⏳️ waiting ⏰📆 on this since day 1 👈️ even passing on other ⌨️ boards 🛹 to have a 700💲 price tag🏷️ and only 🥈or grey 🤔 I for sure 💯 there would at least be a black 😋 option 🙏

I think 🤔it's safe to say 💬 📣 this one wasn't planned 📆 📰 well ☝️ and got away from designer 🖍️👶 at some point 👈️

[elmo]

Ya, god forbid I use a photo provided by the designer to judge the project, and god forbid I use the information provided by the streamer who was sent the product to promote said product who said the PCB was final.

What a bunch of completely unreasonable assumptions I've made! I'm clearly a very entitled person for drawing conclusions based on the information that was provided to me by the designer and the person responsible for promoting the product.

You do know that the color of a PCB has absolutely nothing to do with the design of a PCB?
That a PCB can very well be already final and finished design but the final prototype was just made in green because that's actually cheaper than any other PCB color?

Probably not but whatever...

[grimis]

Ya, god forbid I use a photo provided by the designer to judge the project, and god forbid I use the information provided by the streamer who was sent the product to promote said product who said the PCB was final.

What a bunch of completely unreasonable assumptions I've made! I'm clearly a very entitled person for drawing conclusions based on the information that was provided to me by the designer and the person responsible for promoting the product.

You do know that the color of a PCB has absolutely nothing to do with the design of a PCB?
That a PCB can very well be already final and finished design but the final prototype was just made in green because that's actually cheaper than any other PCB color?

Probably not but whatever...

I understand that. The thing is, when the person asked on stream if the PCB was final, it was in the context of the colour.

[elmo]

I understand that. The thing is, when the person asked on stream if the PCB was final, it was in the context of the colour.

Even then. What does it matter?
It's a PCB. You won't see it once it's in the board.
And the color doesn't define how well a PCB is designed.

[tommyhongg]

Why does the pcb color matter to begin with?

[grimis]

I understand that. The thing is, when the person asked on stream if the PCB was final, it was in the context of the colour.

Even then. What does it matter?
It's a PCB. You won't see it once it's in the board.
And the color doesn't define how well a PCB is designed.

It matters because as you said, green is cheap and it would be kind of ****ty to get the cheapest option when you are paying for a premium product.

I understand  you don't see it once it's in the board. If most people actually felt this way about PCBs though, they would all just be generic green PCBs. They're not though and there is a reason for that, hence my original question about the colour.

edit: I will absolutelyadmit  my initial question about the pcb colour way back was snarky and slightly rude, but I think the response to people displaying very very minor criticism is completely over the top.

[BapoDonu]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

[elmo]

I understand that. The thing is, when the person asked on stream if the PCB was final, it was in the context of the colour.

Even then. What does it matter?
It's a PCB. You won't see it once it's in the board.
And the color doesn't define how well a PCB is designed.

It matters because as you said, green is cheap and it would be kind of ****ty to get the cheapest option when you are paying for a premium product.

I understand  you don't see it once it's in the board. If most people actually felt this way about PCBs though, they would all just be generic green PCBs. They're not though and there is a reason for that, hence my original question about the colour.

It's the cheapest option when doing prototyping with a manufacturer like JLCPCB.
For production runs it doesn't matter because with higher numbers the price per unit for special colors decreases anyways.

[Juggy]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

[BapoDonu]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

I am actually from the EU so i cant even get the board 

[productkun]

I want a PCB with with a gradient, one that starts translucent to full black, cant believe i cant choose the colours, this is madness grr

[surfmurder]

GL w/GB.

[elmo]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

I am actually from the EU so i cant even get the board 

CannonKeys has worldwide shipping.

[brln]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

I am actually from the EU so i cant even get the board 

CannonKeys has worldwide shipping.

It has no pink pcb.
You heard the man.

[heyimpanda]

damn i live in a world where complaining that the prototype pcb is green and that you have to install the gaskets (read: build the keyboard yourself) is constructive "criticism" 9 months into an IC

[illusixn]

[Myoth]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

[MediocreTurtle]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

[surfmurder]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

Not every board has to have a myriad of customizable options. This board was designed because ai03 wanted this board. Their vision is specific, and so is the outcome of the boards design. This is not a rare or polarizing circumstance.

[Myoth]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

[Rico]

Having a board sounding as nicely as it does, and without any dampening material, is already a big achievement.
Grey/Silver goes with nearly all keysets that you may have and is a classy classic.

It may not please everybody (nothing does) but I'm sure it will sell very quickly

[MediocreTurtle]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

[grimis]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.

[dallman5]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.

It was mentioned in the designers discord server which you could have joined and searched through the post history.

[Myoth]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

Not every board has to have a myriad of customizable options. This board was designed because ai03 wanted this board. Their vision is specific, and so is the outcome of the boards design. This is not a rare or polarizing circumstance.

Sure, Duck, LZ and whoever else doesn't have boards with 20 colour options, but they also don't usually make group buys with units in the 3 digits, those designers are within a niche in the hobby itself. I'm glad ai03 made it possible to a greater audience to get into the hobby with the previous boards he's made (mainly talking about the kbdfans collabs), but when you have set such a high standard in terms of quantity and customisibility, I think it's expected for the next boards with similar quantities to be met with such expectations as well.

[MediocreTurtle]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.

Don't play the ignorance card. Since the very start it was clearly stated "Colors: TBA".
There was no info released on the colors other than that till just now.

[grimis]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.

It was mentioned in the designers discord server which you could have joined and searched through the post history.

So pictures are submitted in this topic, but I need to join a discord server and then wade through hundreds of thousands of letters of text in order to find out  what I'm even looking at in the topic?

And people get offended when someone says this seems poorly organized....

[MediocreTurtle]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.

It was mentioned in the designers discord server which you could have joined and searched through the post history.

So pictures are submitted in this topic, but I need to join a discord server and then wade through hundreds of thousands of letters of text in order to find out  what I'm even looking at in the topic?

And people get offended when someone says this seems poorly organized....

Was the color mentioned in the comment with the pictures? No. Means you thought it was x when you had no info on what it actually was and assumed it as fact. Who's fault is that? Yours.

[pngu]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.

It was mentioned in the designers discord server which you could have joined and searched through the post history.

So pictures are submitted in this topic, but I need to join a discord server and then wade through hundreds of thousands of letters of text in order to find out  what I'm even looking at in the topic?

And people get offended when someone says this seems poorly organized....

nice

[dallman5]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.

It was mentioned in the designers discord server which you could have joined and searched through the post history.

So pictures are submitted in this topic, but I need to join a discord server and then wade through hundreds of thousands of letters of text in order to find out  what I'm even looking at in the topic?

And people get offended when someone says this seems poorly organized....

Discords search functionality works pretty well, no need to be so dramatic.

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from: ai03

Like so easy.

[tommyhongg]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.

You just assumed the proto to be black in the first place. So....

[HoodrowThrillson]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.

It was mentioned in the designers discord server which you could have joined and searched through the post history.

So pictures are submitted in this topic, but I need to join a discord server and then wade through hundreds of thousands of letters of text in order to find out  what I'm even looking at in the topic?

And people get offended when someone says this seems poorly organized....

nice

how big can we make this pyramid

[Myoth]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...

[BapoDonu]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

For no reason what so ever? There are proto pics in this very topic from a few months ago of what appears to be a black board. Apparently it's not black, but it's grey. None of this was mention in the post of course.

So ya, no reason what so ever.

It was mentioned in the designers discord server which you could have joined and searched through the post history.

So pictures are submitted in this topic, but I need to join a discord server and then wade through hundreds of thousands of letters of text in order to find out  what I'm even looking at in the topic?

And people get offended when someone says this seems poorly organized....

nice

how big can we make this pyramid

im not sure but sky is the limit

[krazikake]

  just get it reanodized...

[MediocreTurtle]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...

Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.

[grimis]

i want my pcb in pink otherwise im out !!! 
i am fuming 

I like how it seems remarkable to you that people that pay $750 of their hard earned money on a keyboard are picky. Must be a real epiphany today.

so much this, on a "custom" keyboard even

it's insane how detached from reality some people are, take a step back and read the IC out loud to someone that isn't in the hobby, see how they react when they learn that an "ultra-high-end" "custom" keyboard has ... no customisability.

How can you even complain about color options when they were TBA until yesterday? It's your own fault that you just assumed that there would be options and then you were let down by your own expectations.

I truly don't care about any of the board to be quite honest, it just seems obvious that people were going to complain about the lack of customisability when you hype up a board this much with such buzzwords and offer 2 colours. You reap what you sow.

Exactly- you reap what you sow. For no reason whatsoever people imagined something and now are disappointed that their fantasies didn't come true. Who's to blame if not they themselves.

not sure if you understood who my "You reap what you sow." was targeted at, but whatever, the only thing to blame are the standards set on the wider market vs. the ones set in a niche keyboard forum : people on GH bought a keyboard that was only visually revealed at post-production (or was it delivery ?), you would try this on kbdfans and you'd be met with a **** tonne of disappointement. This difference is what lead to such a ****show of a thread, make it clear who a board is for, reduce the number of units if you mean to target a niche audience. You'll have a lot more people disappointed at 100 units than you would have at 40...

Seems like you missed the whole point of my comment where I reversed the saying and pointed out that the people who complain are at fault for having expectations for no reason, because details weren't announced other than it would be very expensive.

Imagine showing what appears to be a black proto type and then saying there was no reason to believe there would be a black version lol

[grimis]

[kaykaybunny]

Jeez I actually don't understand where are those hate from... Sorry for ai03...

First thing first, my friends, this keyboard here, is designed by ai03!!! A I 0 3!!! Do you even understand, or try to understand how big the love he got toward mechanical keyboards and how much effort he put in?? If you haven't heard of what had he achieved, you should. If he chose to do something, there are reasons for it.

Second, did you really understand what is a mechanical keyboard community? Do you understand what does it mean by a community? In a community, people here are doing what the love, what they want to do, what they want to share. People want to get joy from this. People achieved something great in his/her own aspect, by his/her own effort, and want to express the success they have, to send out a piece of positivity to whom may walk by. What builds up this community is the love, the passion, and last but not least, the respect. And yet, NOT HATE.

We should not bring any hate to the place. I understand maybe some of you are having a bad day, or just a sudden bad mood. And that is fine. But before you send out a comment, would you like to consider are your words hurting anyone in some way? Would you like to try to apprehend a bit more what already has been told? Would you like to try to process what is the intention of the OP? But still, by any means, a meaningful, constructive comment, should always be welcomed.

I can't afford this keyboard, either. But at my perspective, all I do is to appreciate, to admire, to respect, the beauty inside this keyboard. I beleve ai03 didn't make this keyboard to extract money. I also believe that he is not making this keyboard just to please you, or just to satisfied you. If you don't like it, and you got some improvement ideas, please do express it. However, if what you got is just some meaningless rant, or some vague comment, maybe you should keep it and dont sent it out, because you will be embarassing yourself.

Anyway, I still hope this group buy goes alright, I hope who are getting this keyboard will enjoy it, and I hope yall have a good day.