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Title: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: JPoc on Mon, 21 June 2021, 19:00:52
GMK Cinder

(https://i.imgur.com/ogFLEfa.jpg)





IC Form (https://forms.gle/WqUKzYcXNdpNpw5v9)

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Vendors

US: TBA
CA: Ashkeebs
EU: MyKeyboard
UK: Proto[Typist]
CN: zFrontier
SEA: ZionStudios
SA: FancyCustoms
OCE: DailyClack




Inspired by the colors of charred wood, fire and volcanic rock, my concept for this set is having the orange alphas stand out like embers against the grey base color and dark grey modifier legends.






Kits



Base Kit

(https://i.imgur.com/6nEk3kn.jpg)


Spacebars

(https://i.imgur.com/gdCz2DR.jpg)


Novelties

(https://i.imgur.com/Jdrsuv6.jpg)




Renders


M60-A

(https://i.imgur.com/ogFLEfa.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/eu90W0S.jpg)

Fjell

(https://i.imgur.com/YovaAz6.jpg)


Fuji65
(Transparent for the render, not a real version of the case)

(https://i.imgur.com/eX6SSmJ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/R3ffX2o.jpg)


U80-A

(https://i.imgur.com/rTiEUTg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Owe3CVE.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0SEqtBb.jpg)


Ikki68 Aurora

(https://i.imgur.com/oNeG6en.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xfLPpip.jpg)





Colors

(https://i.imgur.com/vZC2Vyr.jpg)

I might be able to replace one or two Pantone colors with stock GMK colors, but I don't have a color ring yet.
Once I recieve it colors could be updated.




Deskmat and Collaborations TBA



Special thanks to NoPunIn10Did, Cylent, Acitrin, eg0, iinko and hali for all the advice about kitting.



Updates
  • 21/06/2021 - IC Start
  • 03/07/2021 - New form to vote for the accent color - Many vendors announced
  • 13/07/2021 - New accent color results and renders

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: KapianK on Mon, 21 June 2021, 19:30:35
I'll be honest with you man, those accents just don't work one bit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: hali on Mon, 21 June 2021, 19:30:41
Interesting, what's the inspiration?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Ustinj on Mon, 21 June 2021, 19:33:13
Not bad. I think the accents are fine. I like that this is not a formulaic set, and isn't a safe color way.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: aethernet on Mon, 21 June 2021, 19:38:09
i like the colors. not really sure what the point of the hiragana is here
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: synthtastic on Mon, 21 June 2021, 19:48:56
Looks great, imo! Love the contrast.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: JPoc on Mon, 21 June 2021, 19:51:21
I'll be honest with you man, those accents just don't work one bit

Appreciate the honesty, I want to know your opinions  :thumb:

Interesting, what's the inspiration?

For this set I'm going more for the colorway than a specific theme, but generally cinder, ashes, embers and volcanic rock are my inspiration.

Not bad. I think the accents are fine. I like that this is not a formulaic set, and isn't a safe color way.

Thanks!

i like the colors. not really sure what the point of the hiragana is here

Only reason for the hiragana subs is that I love the way they look.

Looks great, imo! Love the contrast.

<3
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: brunosan_. on Mon, 21 June 2021, 22:24:11
I would love to see latin alphas
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: 3yatt on Mon, 21 June 2021, 22:32:11
I love the ashy accents. Works perfectly with the glowing ember look. Great set!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: lush_bunny on Mon, 21 June 2021, 22:33:05
Oh my god. I love it. Not a fan of those accents though, I'm not sure what to replace them with. Hell, I think this set would world with mono color (that orange for the legends, and that base for everything).
Also, as much as I love GMK right now, please consider other companies (Geekark? ePBT?). The lead times for GMK are painful right now.

EDIT: Okay I get why I don't like the accents. It's because you have the same color for the bases of alphas and mods even though they have different legend colors, so the accent keys just stand out more, and not in a good way.

EDIT 2: Oh hey it's JPoc, my Espresso dude.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Krolyk on Mon, 21 June 2021, 23:36:13
This is dope, I just don't understand the hiragana either, but I'm still here for it. Will be watching this.

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: ohwe on Mon, 21 June 2021, 23:43:45
Initial glance reminds me a little bit of Kaiju some, and I say that in the best way possible. Following along, I'll see how it grows on me over time. Best of luck.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: ThickJimmy on Mon, 21 June 2021, 23:57:00
Really like the colors here.... I'd consider going with Katakana instead  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: kiwoli on Tue, 22 June 2021, 00:08:04
Please consider removing sub-legends unless this is Dark Souls related.
Alternatively, if you must have sub-legends, use a different accent colour and go for JTK tripleshot.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Brioric on Tue, 22 June 2021, 00:10:54
That orange really pops on the dark base color! I love it. Not the biggest fan of the accents, but this set is pretty interesting. GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: HappyB0T on Tue, 22 June 2021, 01:18:38
Hey so these colors are not my thing but they are well balanced.
Something is off about the Alpha weight in the renders. Is this a reference or are these totally new molds.
Or am I dumb.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: i luv chuletas on Tue, 22 June 2021, 08:16:26
Love the colors here! Only wish there was a latin alpha variant (not child kit), feel like it'd look better in this particular colorway. Hiragana/any sublegends add business to an already shocking accent color.

Just my 2cents tho   :-*
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: JPoc on Tue, 22 June 2021, 10:08:58
EDIT 2: Oh hey it's JPoc, my Espresso dude.

hey lush_bunny, good to see you here. Appreciate the feedback!

Please consider removing sub-legends unless this is Dark Souls related.

It is actually slightly inspired by Dark Souls, but for IP reasons I prefer not to mention it, and I don't want to use that as an excuse for the sublegends.

Something is off about the Alpha weight in the renders. Is this a reference or are these totally new molds.

Not new molds, and yes it's just for reference. If the weight is off I haven't noticed so I will take a look.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: JPoc on Tue, 22 June 2021, 10:19:02
Hey all, it's clear the accent color and the hiragana subs are very divisive so I added them as questions to the IC form.

I wouldn't mind offering both hiragana and latin alphas but MOQ wise it could be tricky, so it would depend on support during IC.

Thanks for the feedback!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Xanira on Tue, 22 June 2021, 10:45:28
i like the set, kinda like ashes, but i have to agree, i see no connection with the sub legends
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: lush_bunny on Tue, 22 June 2021, 11:04:19
Form filled. I am the only one who likes the hiragana sublegends it seems lol.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Cylent on Tue, 22 June 2021, 11:41:41
I still strongly feel that the accents should be some type of dark molten lava red to match the volcano theme. Otherwise it looks great, GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: TheWonderBubble on Tue, 22 June 2021, 12:02:14
I'll be honest with you man, those accents just don't work one bit

I'm in the same boat here. I'm a big sucker for grey/black & orange color combos, but the light grey just feels kind of abrupt since it's not featured anywhere else. Certainly adding this to the watch list still though.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: hottrout on Tue, 22 June 2021, 12:10:25
I like the general theme but I agree that the accents should probably be darker than the alphas in this case.  The orange is good but I also dont see the need for the sub legends, less is more on a set like this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: yuutsu on Tue, 22 June 2021, 14:19:59
How about non-hiragana base and make an alphas kit for hiragana subs? I feel like it really doesn't fit this set very well...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Entity. on Tue, 22 June 2021, 16:13:57
Pls add Latin alphas and possibly reconsider the accent colour.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Neely_12 on Tue, 22 June 2021, 18:34:36
I like it but something about the contrast between the black legends and orange legends don’t work for me. Good luck regardless!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: JJ48_24 on Tue, 22 June 2021, 19:56:29
Renders are :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: mr_foggy on Wed, 23 June 2021, 11:18:11
nice, i love the contrasting legends rather than the caps. ash accents are *chefskiss*.

please consider running 2 base kits with and without subs. I agree with the people saying they feel a tad out of place.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Friendship on Wed, 23 June 2021, 15:35:35
Form filled. I am the only one who likes the hiragana sublegends it seems lol.

I'm a fan of the sublegends :) adds more orange pop to the set visually
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: lush_bunny on Thu, 24 June 2021, 01:14:31
Form filled. I am the only one who likes the hiragana sublegends it seems lol.

I'm a fan of the sublegends :) adds more orange pop to the set visually

There are dozens of us! Dozens!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Arithmetics on Thu, 24 June 2021, 16:37:26
i enjoy this and enjoy the subs as well
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Jebus on Fri, 25 June 2021, 09:04:12
Maybe the accents would work better if the mod legends used the same light grey. Just a thought, I might be wrong :) Otherwise, nice work, I like the colour scheme!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Bonobo on Fri, 25 June 2021, 10:28:35
Great accent, I think it can work, want to see the novelties, anyway, the renders, are such a beauty of art!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: JPoc on Fri, 25 June 2021, 16:48:12
Hey everyone,

After a few days the results of the form are not as divided as I expected, 75% in favor of grey accents and 67% of hiragana subs.
With this info I will be keeping the hiragana, but I will still consider adding a kit without subs.

As for the light grey accents, I think the results justify keeping them, but I will still be trying out different options and might make a survey in the future if I find something that works.

Thanks for the feedback so far!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: lush_bunny on Sat, 26 June 2021, 00:05:49
Hey everyone,

After a few days the results of the form are not as divided as I expected, 75% in favor of grey accents and 67% of hiragana subs.
With this info I will be keeping the hiragana, but I will still consider adding a kit without subs.

As for the light grey accents, I think the results justify keeping them, but I will still be trying out different options and might make a survey in the future if I find something that works.

Thanks for the feedback so far!

The weebs won?? lol

EDIT: Also the gray accents are growing on me for some reason. Would love to see some orange accent renders though.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Anorexious on Sat, 26 June 2021, 01:47:18
Nice colorway, but maybe without sub legend will looks better?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: candravamsa on Sat, 26 June 2021, 14:09:28
This is a go for me!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: synthtastic on Sat, 26 June 2021, 15:02:52
Weeb sublegends or die trying. Looking forward to this!!!!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: bastijn on Sat, 26 June 2021, 16:00:11
I'll be honest with you man, those accents just don't work one bit
I like the set but have to agree. Maybe experiment with accents that have the 1575C as bg color.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: lush_bunny on Mon, 28 June 2021, 10:14:25
Weeb sublegends or die trying. Looking forward to this!!!!!

Average Weeb Sublegends Enjoyer reporting for duty!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: JPoc on Sat, 03 July 2021, 13:57:51
Hey everyone!

I made a couple of new accent options for GMK Cinder. Please fill this new form so you can pick your favorite.

I tested more suggestions but I narrowed it down to these as I think they maintain the feel I want the set to have.

https://forms.gle/vFZ1YmJeqcVE4xY59
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: hottrout on Sat, 03 July 2021, 17:03:05
Done
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: konstantin on Sun, 04 July 2021, 01:25:21
I like pretty much everything about this set. From the colorway to the renders. I think the existing light novelties work well with it. GJ on getting the hiragana subs completely right. The kitting is also really good, almost perfect. Speaking of which...

Please consider including R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn for 65% and other layouts using right columns.

You can probably drop 2u Shift from the base kit. This key is useful only for a limited number of 60% boards. Sometimes it can also be used as a stand-in left space for Alice boards, but there's already an extra 2.25u Shift key for that — and the well-put-together spacebars kit covers that too, so I don't think there's a particular need for this key.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: YoungTerror on Sun, 04 July 2021, 01:25:38
I would have loved to see this with orange accents.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: lush_bunny on Sun, 04 July 2021, 01:38:21
I like pretty much everything about this set. From the colorway to the renders. I think the existing light novelties work well with it. GJ on getting the hiragana subs completely right. The kitting is also really good, almost perfect. Speaking of which...

Please consider including R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn for 65% and other layouts using right columns.

You can probably drop 2u Shift from the base kit. This key is useful only for a limited number of 60% boards. Sometimes it can also be used as a stand-in left space for Alice boards, but there's already an extra 2.25u Shift key for that — and the well-put-together spacebars kit covers that too, so I don't think there's a particular need for this key.

This is the shortest kitting comment I've ever read from you lmao
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: konstantin on Sun, 04 July 2021, 02:52:11
This is the shortest kitting comment I've ever read from you lmao

The kitting's already quite good, there's not much for me to comment on :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: EightDiagram on Sun, 04 July 2021, 11:56:43
I like the colorway as is; the 428C evoking images of volcanic ash clouds.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: hottrout on Sun, 04 July 2021, 14:53:28
Please consider some UK ISO coverage in the base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: JPoc on Mon, 05 July 2021, 12:56:59
I like pretty much everything about this set. From the colorway to the renders. I think the existing light novelties work well with it. GJ on getting the hiragana subs completely right. The kitting is also really good, almost perfect. Speaking of which...

Please consider including R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn for 65% and other layouts using right columns.

You can probably drop 2u Shift from the base kit. This key is useful only for a limited number of 60% boards. Sometimes it can also be used as a stand-in left space for Alice boards, but there's already an extra 2.25u Shift key for that — and the well-put-together spacebars kit covers that too, so I don't think there's a particular need for this key.

Thanks once again for giving advice. I removed R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn to keep the price down, but I will keep it in consideration as well as the 2u shift.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Most vendors added - Vote for the accent color!
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 05 July 2021, 13:20:18
Thanks once again for giving advice. I removed R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn to keep the price down, but I will keep it in consideration as well as the 2u shift.

Another thing to consider as far as cost-cutting measures go is dropping mod-colored pipe and tilde. Generally speaking, I would very much be against this, but in this case, with this particular colorway, they're sufficiently similar to the alpha-colored ones that removing the black legend variants may be worth considering.

However, none of these three things will make a big pricing difference in isolation. Sometimes, they don't make a difference at all — in other words, the final retail prices may end up being the same irrespective of whether or not you include one or two extra keys.

That being said, as far as value per key goes (not in terms of price, but usefulness), I would say that R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn are valuable way more than 2u Shift, but less valuable than mod-colored pipe and tilde.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Most vendors added - Vote for the accent color!
Post by: SwirlCables on Sat, 10 July 2021, 01:01:45
very clean!  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: JPoc on Tue, 13 July 2021, 14:18:31
Hello everyone, today I'm sharing the results of the form to pick the new accent color.
The combination of orange legends on a dark grey background won with a solid 50% over the other two options, so that will be the final accent.

Thank you for voting, it was great having the community decide on this, and I hope this change satisfies more people.


(https://i.imgur.com/YovaAz6.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: hottrout on Tue, 13 July 2021, 18:07:51
Game on with the new accent.  I am in.  Please get UK ISO into the base set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: JPoc on Wed, 14 July 2021, 12:38:37
Game on with the new accent.  I am in.  Please get UK ISO into the base set.

Glad to hear that. Will consider it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: MrBIGEURO on Thu, 15 July 2021, 10:48:32
Needs Latin only legends. Colorway is good.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: Friendship on Thu, 15 July 2021, 11:04:06
bummed about the removal of those light accents, for me it made the set. Any chance at considering a small child kit with those accents?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: JPoc on Thu, 15 July 2021, 11:50:11
bummed about the removal of those light accents, for me it made the set. Any chance at considering a small child kit with those accents?

I do like them better as well. I can consider it but I will have to see how viable it is, and most likely replace it with a stock color.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: sapisoi on Thu, 15 July 2021, 12:28:31
volcanic rock novelties would be sick  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: DeMechanica on Wed, 04 August 2021, 00:05:35
Oh no! The light accents have gone! I personally really liked them. Bummer :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: Sandersoni on Wed, 04 August 2021, 05:20:54
Game on with the new accent.  I am in.  Please get UK ISO into the base set.

Glad to hear that. Will consider it.

+1 for UK ISO in base!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: Vulcan650 on Wed, 04 August 2021, 06:21:10
not bad
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: pool on Wed, 04 August 2021, 17:25:02
Is it just me or does this remind of GMK Stealth?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: steebs on Wed, 04 August 2021, 19:00:14
I like this, feels like something different where most seems to just be re-done with slight changes.  really pops
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: chat and team on Wed, 04 August 2021, 23:49:24
remove the weeb and itll be considered ~kebin
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: Jefff on Thu, 05 August 2021, 00:46:34
Very interesting concept! I like the colors a lot!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: killermax on Wed, 11 August 2021, 05:06:32
Did you get your inspiration from dark souls?

Would you consider an english only version as a base?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: _vik on Wed, 18 August 2021, 15:25:54
This set turned me from a lurker to actually getting around to making an account just so I can say how damn good this looks - really nice set, change nothing please!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: switchlab.sg on Thu, 19 August 2021, 05:05:20
Looks very good! The color contrast really pops!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: djbakasan on Sat, 21 August 2021, 01:00:51
Is it just me or does this remind of GMK Stealth?

There's some similarities, but stealth only had very little orange on the base set (the enter and esc keys, set against a dark grey).  There were novelties that added orange spacebars and novelties along with rather bold lettering.  The color schemes are reminiscent but I think they carry significantly different looks-- especially if one opted to go for the blackout variant of GMK stealth.  Use of orange here is way more pronounced, doubly so with the sublegends (which I'm personally not a fan of).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: hottrout on Sat, 21 August 2021, 04:53:59
The black highlights are perfect, please get UK ISO into the base set.  I need this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: d3stiny on Mon, 06 September 2021, 00:55:10
Looks like this set was inspired by Dark Souls.

It will be great if you remove the hiragana
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: gosustyle on Sun, 12 September 2021, 07:33:16
I really like the colors, would be interested in latin aplha variant.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: mrus on Sun, 12 September 2021, 12:29:53
Really dig the hiragana here, would look pretty boring without it. Maybe rather offer Hangul and Cyrillic variants as well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: _rubik on Sun, 12 September 2021, 13:14:24
It will be great if you remove the hiragana

I really like the colors, would be interested in latin aplha variant.

Really dig the hiragana here, would look pretty boring without it.

Lots of replies here talking about the sublegends. I'm pretty split and it seems like the rest of yall are as well.

Maybe add a Latin-only alpha kit so folks have that option if they're so inclined? Options never hurt
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: lush_bunny on Sun, 12 September 2021, 14:29:56
y'all should read up, OP is considering it

Hey everyone,

After a few days the results of the form are not as divided as I expected, 75% in favor of grey accents and 67% of hiragana subs.
With this info I will be keeping the hiragana, but I will still consider adding a kit without subs.

As for the light grey accents, I think the results justify keeping them, but I will still be trying out different options and might make a survey in the future if I find something that works.

Thanks for the feedback so far!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: konstantin on Sun, 12 September 2021, 17:40:53
Bring back the light gray accents!