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Title: [IC] GMK Cinder - GB is live!
Post by: JPoc on Mon, 21 June 2021, 19:00:52
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Estimated shipping date: Q4 2023



Inspired by charred wood, fire and volcanic rock, the concept for this set is orange alphas that stand out like embers against the grey base color and dark grey modifier legends.





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Hiragana Base Kit

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Latin Base Kit

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Novelties

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Spacebars

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Fuji65

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(Transparent for the render, not a real version of the case)
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M60-A

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Fjell

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U80-A

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Ikki68 Aurora

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M65-A

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Eclipse

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Forge

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Coal

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Ash

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THOK
Black PVD brass with glow in dark orange

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HIBI
Anodised aluminium with enamel fill

(https://i.imgur.com/CdOpZwO.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/bKTX8MD.png)



(https://i.imgur.com/UHfBZiN.jpg)


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Special thanks to NoPunIn10Did, Cylent, Acitrin, eg0, iinko and hali for all the advice about kitting.
And to Stellaidoscope for the awesome work for some of the novelties.



Updates
  • 21/06/2021 - IC Start
  • 03/07/2021 - New form to vote for the accent color - Many vendors announced
  • 13/07/2021 - New accent color results and renders
  • 26/12/2021 - Added novelties, latin alphas, deskmat, US vendor and more
  • 17/01/2022 - Changed orange color from V2 to Pantone 1505 C
  • 01/03/2022 - Added THOK and HIBI collabs
  • 24/03/2022 - GB April 8th to May 8th

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: KapianK on Mon, 21 June 2021, 19:30:35
I'll be honest with you man, those accents just don't work one bit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: hali on Mon, 21 June 2021, 19:30:41
Interesting, what's the inspiration?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Ustinj on Mon, 21 June 2021, 19:33:13
Not bad. I think the accents are fine. I like that this is not a formulaic set, and isn't a safe color way.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: aethernet on Mon, 21 June 2021, 19:38:09
i like the colors. not really sure what the point of the hiragana is here
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: synthtastic on Mon, 21 June 2021, 19:48:56
Looks great, imo! Love the contrast.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: JPoc on Mon, 21 June 2021, 19:51:21
I'll be honest with you man, those accents just don't work one bit

Appreciate the honesty, I want to know your opinions  :thumb:

Interesting, what's the inspiration?

For this set I'm going more for the colorway than a specific theme, but generally cinder, ashes, embers and volcanic rock are my inspiration.

Not bad. I think the accents are fine. I like that this is not a formulaic set, and isn't a safe color way.

Thanks!

i like the colors. not really sure what the point of the hiragana is here

Only reason for the hiragana subs is that I love the way they look.

Looks great, imo! Love the contrast.

<3
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: brunosan_. on Mon, 21 June 2021, 22:24:11
I would love to see latin alphas
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: 3yatt on Mon, 21 June 2021, 22:32:11
I love the ashy accents. Works perfectly with the glowing ember look. Great set!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: lush_bunny on Mon, 21 June 2021, 22:33:05
Oh my god. I love it. Not a fan of those accents though, I'm not sure what to replace them with. Hell, I think this set would world with mono color (that orange for the legends, and that base for everything).
Also, as much as I love GMK right now, please consider other companies (Geekark? ePBT?). The lead times for GMK are painful right now.

EDIT: Okay I get why I don't like the accents. It's because you have the same color for the bases of alphas and mods even though they have different legend colors, so the accent keys just stand out more, and not in a good way.

EDIT 2: Oh hey it's JPoc, my Espresso dude.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Krolyk on Mon, 21 June 2021, 23:36:13
This is dope, I just don't understand the hiragana either, but I'm still here for it. Will be watching this.

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: ohwe on Mon, 21 June 2021, 23:43:45
Initial glance reminds me a little bit of Kaiju some, and I say that in the best way possible. Following along, I'll see how it grows on me over time. Best of luck.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: ThickJimmy on Mon, 21 June 2021, 23:57:00
Really like the colors here.... I'd consider going with Katakana instead  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: kiwoli on Tue, 22 June 2021, 00:08:04
Please consider removing sub-legends unless this is Dark Souls related.
Alternatively, if you must have sub-legends, use a different accent colour and go for JTK tripleshot.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Brioric on Tue, 22 June 2021, 00:10:54
That orange really pops on the dark base color! I love it. Not the biggest fan of the accents, but this set is pretty interesting. GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: HappyB0T on Tue, 22 June 2021, 01:18:38
Hey so these colors are not my thing but they are well balanced.
Something is off about the Alpha weight in the renders. Is this a reference or are these totally new molds.
Or am I dumb.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: i luv chuletas on Tue, 22 June 2021, 08:16:26
Love the colors here! Only wish there was a latin alpha variant (not child kit), feel like it'd look better in this particular colorway. Hiragana/any sublegends add business to an already shocking accent color.

Just my 2cents tho   :-*
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: JPoc on Tue, 22 June 2021, 10:08:58
EDIT 2: Oh hey it's JPoc, my Espresso dude.

hey lush_bunny, good to see you here. Appreciate the feedback!

Please consider removing sub-legends unless this is Dark Souls related.

It is actually slightly inspired by Dark Souls, but for IP reasons I prefer not to mention it, and I don't want to use that as an excuse for the sublegends.

Something is off about the Alpha weight in the renders. Is this a reference or are these totally new molds.

Not new molds, and yes it's just for reference. If the weight is off I haven't noticed so I will take a look.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: JPoc on Tue, 22 June 2021, 10:19:02
Hey all, it's clear the accent color and the hiragana subs are very divisive so I added them as questions to the IC form.

I wouldn't mind offering both hiragana and latin alphas but MOQ wise it could be tricky, so it would depend on support during IC.

Thanks for the feedback!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Xanira on Tue, 22 June 2021, 10:45:28
i like the set, kinda like ashes, but i have to agree, i see no connection with the sub legends
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: lush_bunny on Tue, 22 June 2021, 11:04:19
Form filled. I am the only one who likes the hiragana sublegends it seems lol.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Cylent on Tue, 22 June 2021, 11:41:41
I still strongly feel that the accents should be some type of dark molten lava red to match the volcano theme. Otherwise it looks great, GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: TheWonderBubble on Tue, 22 June 2021, 12:02:14
I'll be honest with you man, those accents just don't work one bit

I'm in the same boat here. I'm a big sucker for grey/black & orange color combos, but the light grey just feels kind of abrupt since it's not featured anywhere else. Certainly adding this to the watch list still though.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: hottrout on Tue, 22 June 2021, 12:10:25
I like the general theme but I agree that the accents should probably be darker than the alphas in this case.  The orange is good but I also dont see the need for the sub legends, less is more on a set like this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: yuutsu on Tue, 22 June 2021, 14:19:59
How about non-hiragana base and make an alphas kit for hiragana subs? I feel like it really doesn't fit this set very well...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Entity. on Tue, 22 June 2021, 16:13:57
Pls add Latin alphas and possibly reconsider the accent colour.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Neely_12 on Tue, 22 June 2021, 18:34:36
I like it but something about the contrast between the black legends and orange legends don’t work for me. Good luck regardless!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: JJ48_24 on Tue, 22 June 2021, 19:56:29
Renders are :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: mr_foggy on Wed, 23 June 2021, 11:18:11
nice, i love the contrasting legends rather than the caps. ash accents are *chefskiss*.

please consider running 2 base kits with and without subs. I agree with the people saying they feel a tad out of place.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Friendship on Wed, 23 June 2021, 15:35:35
Form filled. I am the only one who likes the hiragana sublegends it seems lol.

(I'm a fan of the sublegends :) adds more orange pop to the set visually)

^i no longer feel this way, im in favor of the mono legends in base
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: lush_bunny on Thu, 24 June 2021, 01:14:31
Form filled. I am the only one who likes the hiragana sublegends it seems lol.

I'm a fan of the sublegends :) adds more orange pop to the set visually

There are dozens of us! Dozens!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Arithmetics on Thu, 24 June 2021, 16:37:26
i enjoy this and enjoy the subs as well
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Jebus on Fri, 25 June 2021, 09:04:12
Maybe the accents would work better if the mod legends used the same light grey. Just a thought, I might be wrong :) Otherwise, nice work, I like the colour scheme!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Bonobo on Fri, 25 June 2021, 10:28:35
Great accent, I think it can work, want to see the novelties, anyway, the renders, are such a beauty of art!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: JPoc on Fri, 25 June 2021, 16:48:12
Hey everyone,

After a few days the results of the form are not as divided as I expected, 75% in favor of grey accents and 67% of hiragana subs.
With this info I will be keeping the hiragana, but I will still consider adding a kit without subs.

As for the light grey accents, I think the results justify keeping them, but I will still be trying out different options and might make a survey in the future if I find something that works.

Thanks for the feedback so far!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: lush_bunny on Sat, 26 June 2021, 00:05:49
Hey everyone,

After a few days the results of the form are not as divided as I expected, 75% in favor of grey accents and 67% of hiragana subs.
With this info I will be keeping the hiragana, but I will still consider adding a kit without subs.

As for the light grey accents, I think the results justify keeping them, but I will still be trying out different options and might make a survey in the future if I find something that works.

Thanks for the feedback so far!

The weebs won?? lol

EDIT: Also the gray accents are growing on me for some reason. Would love to see some orange accent renders though.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Anorexious on Sat, 26 June 2021, 01:47:18
Nice colorway, but maybe without sub legend will looks better?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: candravamsa on Sat, 26 June 2021, 14:09:28
This is a go for me!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: synthtastic on Sat, 26 June 2021, 15:02:52
Weeb sublegends or die trying. Looking forward to this!!!!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: bastijn on Sat, 26 June 2021, 16:00:11
I'll be honest with you man, those accents just don't work one bit
I like the set but have to agree. Maybe experiment with accents that have the 1575C as bg color.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: lush_bunny on Mon, 28 June 2021, 10:14:25
Weeb sublegends or die trying. Looking forward to this!!!!!

Average Weeb Sublegends Enjoyer reporting for duty!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: JPoc on Sat, 03 July 2021, 13:57:51
Hey everyone!

I made a couple of new accent options for GMK Cinder. Please fill this new form so you can pick your favorite.

I tested more suggestions but I narrowed it down to these as I think they maintain the feel I want the set to have.

https://forms.gle/vFZ1YmJeqcVE4xY59
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: hottrout on Sat, 03 July 2021, 17:03:05
Done
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: konstantin on Sun, 04 July 2021, 01:25:21
I like pretty much everything about this set. From the colorway to the renders. I think the existing light novelties work well with it. GJ on getting the hiragana subs completely right. The kitting is also really good, almost perfect. Speaking of which...

Please consider including R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn for 65% and other layouts using right columns.

You can probably drop 2u Shift from the base kit. This key is useful only for a limited number of 60% boards. Sometimes it can also be used as a stand-in left space for Alice boards, but there's already an extra 2.25u Shift key for that — and the well-put-together spacebars kit covers that too, so I don't think there's a particular need for this key.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: YoungTerror on Sun, 04 July 2021, 01:25:38
I would have loved to see this with orange accents.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: lush_bunny on Sun, 04 July 2021, 01:38:21
I like pretty much everything about this set. From the colorway to the renders. I think the existing light novelties work well with it. GJ on getting the hiragana subs completely right. The kitting is also really good, almost perfect. Speaking of which...

Please consider including R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn for 65% and other layouts using right columns.

You can probably drop 2u Shift from the base kit. This key is useful only for a limited number of 60% boards. Sometimes it can also be used as a stand-in left space for Alice boards, but there's already an extra 2.25u Shift key for that — and the well-put-together spacebars kit covers that too, so I don't think there's a particular need for this key.

This is the shortest kitting comment I've ever read from you lmao
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: konstantin on Sun, 04 July 2021, 02:52:11
This is the shortest kitting comment I've ever read from you lmao

The kitting's already quite good, there's not much for me to comment on :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: EightDiagram on Sun, 04 July 2021, 11:56:43
I like the colorway as is; the 428C evoking images of volcanic ash clouds.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: hottrout on Sun, 04 July 2021, 14:53:28
Please consider some UK ISO coverage in the base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: JPoc on Mon, 05 July 2021, 12:56:59
I like pretty much everything about this set. From the colorway to the renders. I think the existing light novelties work well with it. GJ on getting the hiragana subs completely right. The kitting is also really good, almost perfect. Speaking of which...

Please consider including R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn for 65% and other layouts using right columns.

You can probably drop 2u Shift from the base kit. This key is useful only for a limited number of 60% boards. Sometimes it can also be used as a stand-in left space for Alice boards, but there's already an extra 2.25u Shift key for that — and the well-put-together spacebars kit covers that too, so I don't think there's a particular need for this key.

Thanks once again for giving advice. I removed R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn to keep the price down, but I will keep it in consideration as well as the 2u shift.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Most vendors added - Vote for the accent color!
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 05 July 2021, 13:20:18
Thanks once again for giving advice. I removed R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn to keep the price down, but I will keep it in consideration as well as the 2u shift.

Another thing to consider as far as cost-cutting measures go is dropping mod-colored pipe and tilde. Generally speaking, I would very much be against this, but in this case, with this particular colorway, they're sufficiently similar to the alpha-colored ones that removing the black legend variants may be worth considering.

However, none of these three things will make a big pricing difference in isolation. Sometimes, they don't make a difference at all — in other words, the final retail prices may end up being the same irrespective of whether or not you include one or two extra keys.

That being said, as far as value per key goes (not in terms of price, but usefulness), I would say that R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn are valuable way more than 2u Shift, but less valuable than mod-colored pipe and tilde.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Most vendors added - Vote for the accent color!
Post by: SwirlCables on Sat, 10 July 2021, 01:01:45
very clean!  :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: JPoc on Tue, 13 July 2021, 14:18:31
Hello everyone, today I'm sharing the results of the form to pick the new accent color.
The combination of orange legends on a dark grey background won with a solid 50% over the other two options, so that will be the final accent.

Thank you for voting, it was great having the community decide on this, and I hope this change satisfies more people.


(https://i.imgur.com/YovaAz6.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: hottrout on Tue, 13 July 2021, 18:07:51
Game on with the new accent.  I am in.  Please get UK ISO into the base set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: JPoc on Wed, 14 July 2021, 12:38:37
Game on with the new accent.  I am in.  Please get UK ISO into the base set.

Glad to hear that. Will consider it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: MrBIGEURO on Thu, 15 July 2021, 10:48:32
Needs Latin only legends. Colorway is good.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: Friendship on Thu, 15 July 2021, 11:04:06
bummed about the removal of those light accents, for me it made the set. Any chance at considering a small child kit with those accents?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: JPoc on Thu, 15 July 2021, 11:50:11
bummed about the removal of those light accents, for me it made the set. Any chance at considering a small child kit with those accents?

I do like them better as well. I can consider it but I will have to see how viable it is, and most likely replace it with a stock color.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: sapisoi on Thu, 15 July 2021, 12:28:31
volcanic rock novelties would be sick  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: DeMechanica on Wed, 04 August 2021, 00:05:35
Oh no! The light accents have gone! I personally really liked them. Bummer :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: Sandersoni on Wed, 04 August 2021, 05:20:54
Game on with the new accent.  I am in.  Please get UK ISO into the base set.

Glad to hear that. Will consider it.

+1 for UK ISO in base!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: Vulcan650 on Wed, 04 August 2021, 06:21:10
not bad
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: pool on Wed, 04 August 2021, 17:25:02
Is it just me or does this remind of GMK Stealth?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: steebs on Wed, 04 August 2021, 19:00:14
I like this, feels like something different where most seems to just be re-done with slight changes.  really pops
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: chat and team on Wed, 04 August 2021, 23:49:24
remove the weeb and itll be considered ~kebin
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: Jefff on Thu, 05 August 2021, 00:46:34
Very interesting concept! I like the colors a lot!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: killermax on Wed, 11 August 2021, 05:06:32
Did you get your inspiration from dark souls?

Would you consider an english only version as a base?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: _vik on Wed, 18 August 2021, 15:25:54
This set turned me from a lurker to actually getting around to making an account just so I can say how damn good this looks - really nice set, change nothing please!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: switchlab.sg on Thu, 19 August 2021, 05:05:20
Looks very good! The color contrast really pops!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: djbakasan on Sat, 21 August 2021, 01:00:51
Is it just me or does this remind of GMK Stealth?

There's some similarities, but stealth only had very little orange on the base set (the enter and esc keys, set against a dark grey).  There were novelties that added orange spacebars and novelties along with rather bold lettering.  The color schemes are reminiscent but I think they carry significantly different looks-- especially if one opted to go for the blackout variant of GMK stealth.  Use of orange here is way more pronounced, doubly so with the sublegends (which I'm personally not a fan of).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: hottrout on Sat, 21 August 2021, 04:53:59
The black highlights are perfect, please get UK ISO into the base set.  I need this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: d3stiny on Mon, 06 September 2021, 00:55:10
Looks like this set was inspired by Dark Souls.

It will be great if you remove the hiragana
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: gosustyle on Sun, 12 September 2021, 07:33:16
I really like the colors, would be interested in latin aplha variant.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: mrus on Sun, 12 September 2021, 12:29:53
Really dig the hiragana here, would look pretty boring without it. Maybe rather offer Hangul and Cyrillic variants as well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: _rubik on Sun, 12 September 2021, 13:14:24
It will be great if you remove the hiragana

I really like the colors, would be interested in latin aplha variant.

Really dig the hiragana here, would look pretty boring without it.

Lots of replies here talking about the sublegends. I'm pretty split and it seems like the rest of yall are as well.

Maybe add a Latin-only alpha kit so folks have that option if they're so inclined? Options never hurt
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: lush_bunny on Sun, 12 September 2021, 14:29:56
y'all should read up, OP is considering it

Hey everyone,

After a few days the results of the form are not as divided as I expected, 75% in favor of grey accents and 67% of hiragana subs.
With this info I will be keeping the hiragana, but I will still consider adding a kit without subs.

As for the light grey accents, I think the results justify keeping them, but I will still be trying out different options and might make a survey in the future if I find something that works.

Thanks for the feedback so far!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: konstantin on Sun, 12 September 2021, 17:40:53
Bring back the light gray accents!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - New accent color results and renders
Post by: OptimusPrime00 on Thu, 30 September 2021, 19:34:12
wow looks amazing! Latin alphas would be sick!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: JPoc on Sun, 26 December 2021, 13:54:57
Hey everyone, it's been a while since the last update.

I got back to working on this and I'm really excited to bring you a pretty big update with:


Regarding the Latin Alphas kit, I'm aware that it's not ideal for those of you that are not interested in hiragana subs but at the moment I can't justify having two base kits.
However if we get enough support and IC responses going forward I would be glad to swap it for a full latin base kit.

I'm also looking forward to working on collabs given that we have some time until the GB.
Let me know what you think!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: New_One on Sun, 26 December 2021, 16:03:18
Happy to see an update on this set - the novelties and deskmats look really nice. Will definitely jump on this in march!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: C_L | Soup on Sun, 26 December 2021, 16:39:59
Looking forward to this! The novelties and deskmats really tie it together. Any chance of getting mod-legend arrow keys, possibly in the novelties?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: Friendship on Sun, 26 December 2021, 17:10:23
Nice I have been waiting for this one!!!

couple of questions/requests:

The novelty enter, is that supposed to be a bonfire in the forest? I only guessed based on the theme, to me it doesn't really look like it at first or second glance, the trees are sick though.

can I request an R1 black key/orange legend version of the r2 eclipse novelty? feels like it makes alot of sense as an ESC key IMO (eclipse mat also looking very nice)

any chance for considering tossing the Alice 2.25 and 2.75 spacebars into the base kit? B is already there :)

lastly, always tossing my support in for the Hiragana subs, looking forward to GB!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: hottrout on Sun, 26 December 2021, 18:17:03
Please add UK ISO into a kit or in the base.  At the very least add a Norde/UK kit.  I also love the forge mat, really nice.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: vishydesigns on Sun, 26 December 2021, 20:44:31
I really like this! Excited for gb
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: Mecxs on Sun, 26 December 2021, 22:47:58
Looking good.

Throw an extra tab into the latin alphas though - it's one extra key and it lets people cover two boards with base + alphas, which is a really nice bonus for those who want it without being a massive extra cost for those who don't.

Technically people can still do that right now, but the second board would have to be a 40% and not everybody has embraced the magic of 40s yet.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: sorathiel on Mon, 27 December 2021, 04:01:54
Please add UK ISO into a kit or in the base.  At the very least add a Norde/UK kit.  I also love the forge mat, really nice.
I don't think these child kits are ever designed anymore as they're unlikely to hit MOQ with GMK prices anyway? Please correct me if I'm wrong
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: hottrout on Mon, 27 December 2021, 04:12:27
Please add UK ISO into a kit or in the base.  At the very least add a Norde/UK kit.  I also love the forge mat, really nice.
I don't think these child kits are ever designed anymore as they're unlikely to hit MOQ with GMK prices anyway? Please correct me if I'm wrong

You are wrong, and therefore are corrected.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: Mecxs on Mon, 27 December 2021, 05:04:25
Any chance of seeing accented arrows added?

Otherwise, love the look of this set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: JPoc on Mon, 27 December 2021, 09:05:13
Thanks everyone, I'll consider the kitting suggestions.

The novelty enter, is that supposed to be a bonfire in the forest? I only guessed based on the theme, to me it doesn't really look like it at first or second glance, the trees are sick though.

It's a fire in the middle of the burnt trees.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Oddstag on Mon, 27 December 2021, 09:35:15
Please consider some UK ISO coverage in the base kit.

Second this request. UK ISO keys in the hiragana set would get me in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: HYTE-Eddie on Mon, 27 December 2021, 12:03:10
the name is awesome. love the the color theme!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: Arithmetics on Mon, 27 December 2021, 18:16:18
the more i look at it the more i like it. cool noveties too
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 27 December 2021, 19:39:05
Kits are looking great after the update. I was a fan of the original accent color, but the new one works well too.

Consider changing the R3 1.75u Control key to an icon legend () for a cleaner, more consistent look.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: shuna on Tue, 28 December 2021, 06:38:22
Hi, new to the forums, glad to be a part of the community!

Really interested in this keycap set. I see that the Group Buy will be in March 2022; could anyone give me some insight on when the shipping would start?

Also, I'm a bit curious as to what the previous accent colors looked like. Anyone have a link to the images?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: Sandersoni on Tue, 28 December 2021, 08:05:12
Thanks everyone, I'll consider the kitting suggestions.

Thank you for considering an ISO kit!
On the novelties, fire-in-the-middle-of-burnt-trees, I think a close-up of a lit match would fit well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: Friendship on Tue, 28 December 2021, 10:21:12
Thanks everyone, I'll consider the kitting suggestions.

The novelty enter, is that supposed to be a bonfire in the forest? I only guessed based on the theme, to me it doesn't really look like it at first or second glance, the trees are sick though.

It's a fire in the middle of the burnt trees.

Thanks for the consideration! Also regarding my comment, I see that the flames have a bit sharper detail of the flame tips on the 1.25u flame (not bonfire) novelties, is that something gmk can do accurately? I think imbuing those sharper tips to the enter bonfire would really help it convey the imagery :) I'm in for this either way just my 2 cents
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: Friendship on Tue, 28 December 2021, 10:27:42
Thanks everyone, I'll consider the kitting suggestions.

The novelty enter, is that supposed to be a bonfire in the forest? I only guessed based on the theme, to me it doesn't really look like it at first or second glance, the trees are sick though.

It's a fire in the middle of the burnt trees.

Thanks for the consideration! Also regarding my comment, I see that the sword bonfire r1 flames have a bit sharper detail and the flame tips on the 1.25u flame (not bonfire) novelties look great as well, is that something gmk can do accurately? I think imbuing those sharper tips to the other bonfires would really help it convey the imagery :) I'm in for this either way just my 2 cents
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: Tyson on Tue, 28 December 2021, 11:32:07
Hi, new to the forums, glad to be a part of the community!

Really interested in this keycap set. I see that the Group Buy will be in March 2022; could anyone give me some insight on when the shipping would start?

Also, I'm a bit curious as to what the previous accent colors looked like. Anyone have a link to the images?

June or July of 2023
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: JPoc on Tue, 28 December 2021, 11:41:14
Kits are looking great after the update. I was a fan of the original accent color, but the new one works well too.

Consider changing the R3 1.75u Control key to an icon legend () for a cleaner, more consistent look.

Glad you like it, the new accent color grew on me a lot. Thanks as always for the feedback.

Really interested in this keycap set. I see that the Group Buy will be in March 2022; could anyone give me some insight on when the shipping would start?

Also, I'm a bit curious as to what the previous accent colors looked like. Anyone have a link to the images?

Will be able to give more accurate dates in the future, but most recent GMK sets have a 1 year + estimate between GB end and start of shipping.

You can check old accents here: https://imgur.com/a/X7CWbxB

Thanks for the consideration! Also regarding my comment, I see that the flames have a bit sharper detail of the flame tips on the 1.25u flame (not bonfire) novelties, is that something gmk can do accurately? I think imbuing those sharper tips to the enter bonfire would really help it convey the imagery :) I'm in for this either way just my 2 cents

Still have to get approval for the novelties but I expect it should be doable without major modifications.
That's a nice idea but the goal was to give the enter fire a similar style to the R1 campfire. Could try to make it more obvious that it's a fire tho.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: Friendship on Wed, 29 December 2021, 11:28:12

Thanks for the consideration! Also regarding my comment, I see that the flames have a bit sharper detail of the flame tips on the 1.25u flame (not bonfire) novelties, is that something gmk can do accurately? I think imbuing those sharper tips to the enter bonfire would really help it convey the imagery :) I'm in for this either way just my 2 cents

Still have to get approval for the novelties but I expect it should be doable without major modifications.
That's a nice idea but the goal was to give the enter fire a similar style to the R1 campfire. Could try to make it more obvious that it's a fire tho.

Honestly that's fair. The more I stare at it, the more fire-like it looks and its got the bonus of being stylized which I can appreciate. Ignore what I said about the flames and sorry for stirring that pot!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: JPoc on Wed, 29 December 2021, 12:19:57
Honestly that's fair. The more I stare at it, the more fire-like it looks and its got the bonus of being stylized which I can appreciate. Ignore what I said about the flames and sorry for stirring that pot!

Not at all! Appreciate the feedback
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: JPoc on Wed, 29 December 2021, 12:27:28
Quick update:

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: Beesley on Fri, 31 December 2021, 08:34:04
I love everything about this set, even did a fan render of it i love it so much. definitely going to pick this up!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: shuna on Fri, 31 December 2021, 12:30:08
June or July of 2023

Thanks for the estimate!

Will be able to give more accurate dates in the future, but most recent GMK sets have a 1 year + estimate between GB end and start of shipping.

You can check old accents here: https://imgur.com/a/X7CWbxB

Noted, thank you for the info and the link to the old accents. I think they look nice, but if I had to choose, I personally prefer the revised version because I like keeping things uniform.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: sipp11 on Fri, 31 December 2021, 13:30:51
を over わ is supposed to be the same size. If you want ひらがな to be a base set, please fix this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: JPoc on Thu, 06 January 2022, 11:41:30
を over わ is supposed to be the same size. If you want ひらがな to be a base set, please fix this.

Good catch, will look into it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 06 January 2022, 13:20:23
を over わ is supposed to be the same size. If you want ひらがな to be a base set, please fix this.

+1

Also, thanks for implementing the Control icon change!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: dyrdevil on Fri, 07 January 2022, 12:27:22
cool set. any chance of a latin base kit, or will that only be as an addon?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: JPoc on Fri, 07 January 2022, 12:42:48
Also, thanks for implementing the Control icon change!

For sure! Thanks for pointing it out.

cool set. any chance of a latin base kit, or will that only be as an addon?

I do want to swap the latin alphas for a latin base kit, but I still need more IC responses to justify two base kits.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: Hyperdimension on Fri, 07 January 2022, 21:04:46
This looks good but the orange F keys are a dealbreaker for me. Any chance for a kit that adds F keys so the F row is just a single color?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: blowmage on Fri, 07 January 2022, 22:28:48
Mac icon modifiers? Pretty please? With sugar on top?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: BearlyAlive on Fri, 07 January 2022, 22:33:26
I do want to swap the latin alphas for a latin base kit, but I still need more IC responses to justify two base kits.

Would really want a latin base kit as well. Set looks soooo clean with just the latin alphabet.

Made a feedback in the IC form.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: Mecxs on Sat, 08 January 2022, 02:10:48
Double base kits are risky right now. Look at Power Chord's numbers. I think it really needs to be a R2 thing, or something with a huge amount of support.

By contrast offering alt alphas lets people cover two boards with base + alphas, which is a big selling point. Flip side I guess is that there will always be folks who prefer one set of alphas over the other and just want the one kit.

I think this is a good use of alt alphas. I would be worried about a first time set like this one trying to run two base kits.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: Arithmetics on Sun, 09 January 2022, 20:00:18
yah roll with the weeb legends latin kit people can grab kit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: JPoc on Mon, 17 January 2022, 18:04:59
Hey everyone, another quick update.

I made one final change to the orange color, going from stock GMK V2 to Pantone 1505 C.
It's not a massive change but in comparison the Pantone is more saturated and vibrant, and I think it will really take advantage of GMK's ABS and will look striking on top of the grey keycaps, giving that "glowing like embers" look to the alphas that I'm looking for.

All renders have been updated. I hope you like the change!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: C_L | Soup on Tue, 18 January 2022, 22:20:46
New orange looking good! Can't wait till gb and then waiting some more.....copium
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: jagger27 on Tue, 18 January 2022, 23:16:21
I like these colors a lot more than Skiidata. Consider 1.5U Supers though?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: 8um8lebee on Wed, 19 January 2022, 15:37:53
In love with this set! So unique and creative. That orange on grey is exactly how I picture cinder in almost extinguished burnt coal. A little disappointed the "fireball" R4 novs don't have an orange version but still love it. 2028 can't come soon enough!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder
Post by: Nqrwhql on Wed, 19 January 2022, 16:50:00
I like it but something about the contrast between the black legends and orange legends don’t work for me. Good luck regardless!

I agree, the bright orange on the alphas with the dark almost invisible legends on the mods are a bit awkward but otherwise, the colorway isn't bad.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: whee74 on Fri, 21 January 2022, 14:18:25
really like the deskmats on this one! the forge one in particular looks amazing. GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: chigi22 on Tue, 15 February 2022, 14:01:23
I like these colors a lot more than Skiidata. Consider 1.5U Supers though?

Chiming in to second this: 1.5U supers and one more 1U alt for R4 would really make the Mac users among us happy. Love the set! GLWIC.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: 3yatt on Wed, 16 February 2022, 20:07:35
It bothers me so much how many people don't know what the inspiration behind this kit is. It's wonderful, and a definite must buy.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Novelties, Latin alphas, Deskmats and more | GB March 2022
Post by: Friendship on Thu, 17 February 2022, 09:02:44
It bothers me so much how many people don't know what the inspiration behind this kit is. It's wonderful, and a definite must buy.

some folks gotta git gud ;)

i gotta say though, the more i stare at the latin alpha renders, the more I think ill be picking up the latin kit. after all the ember/fire is fading...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - THOK and HIBI collabs
Post by: JPoc on Tue, 01 March 2022, 11:49:07
Hey everyone! I'm excited to show you the first two collabs.
Also, we are still waiting for quotes for the set, so hopefully we get them soon and can launch this month as planned.

THOK
Black PVD with glow in dark orange

(https://i.imgur.com/Ti2cAMf.png)

HIBI
Anodised aluminium with enamel fill

(https://i.imgur.com/CdOpZwO.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - THOK and HIBI collabs
Post by: Friendship on Tue, 01 March 2022, 13:11:02
these metal artisans are awesome!!!!

i assume the Thok is brass right?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - THOK and HIBI collabs
Post by: JPoc on Tue, 01 March 2022, 15:28:57
these metal artisans are awesome!!!!

i assume the Thok is brass right?

Glad you like them! Yes, the THOK is brass.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - THOK and HIBI collabs
Post by: lush_bunny on Wed, 02 March 2022, 08:21:25
Hey everyone! I'm excited to show you the first two collabs.
Also, we are still waiting for quotes for the set, so hopefully we get them soon and can launch this month as planned.

THOK
Black PVD with glow in dark orange

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Ti2cAMf.png)


HIBI
Anodised aluminium with enamel fill

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/CdOpZwO.png)


Jesus Christ, that THOK cap is beautiful.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - THOK and HIBI collabs
Post by: Frostbyte on Wed, 02 March 2022, 08:22:23
I’m definitely in for this with at least 2 kits, a desk pad, and the HIBI artisan. This is like my perfect set. Huge FromSoft fan, huge fan of dark colors on boards, and orange is my favorite color. Can’t wait for GB launch!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - THOK and HIBI collabs
Post by: RachaXD on Wed, 02 March 2022, 09:35:04
This is so hype. I'm going all in
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - THOK and HIBI collabs
Post by: Arithmetics on Wed, 02 March 2022, 11:03:03
hype
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - THOK and HIBI collabs
Post by: adigaforever on Thu, 03 March 2022, 01:37:15
Maybe change base kit to be non hiragana and alphas with hiragana?
Doesn't make sense to be, unless the majority of the buyers are hiragana users
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - THOK and HIBI collabs
Post by: hottrout on Thu, 03 March 2022, 04:11:04
Both of those is fire (see what I did there), seriously though, that THOC is superb.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - THOK and HIBI collabs
Post by: hongoo on Thu, 03 March 2022, 09:20:05
Interesting. It's a risky colorway though.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - THOK and HIBI collabs
Post by: kkd_20 on Thu, 03 March 2022, 10:28:47
uff them deskmats. :-* :-*
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - THOK and HIBI collabs
Post by: Friendship on Thu, 03 March 2022, 11:10:37
id be a tad curious to see how the alpha debate percentages would look if polled now but i have a feeling with quotes already in progress that this isn't feasible at this point
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - THOK and HIBI collabs
Post by: JPoc on Thu, 17 March 2022, 19:01:16
Hey everyone, new update.
We just go the quotes so the GB might not be during this month. I will share GB date and pricing really soon.

Apart from that, we got two new collabs!

Artisan keycaps by archetype_mk (https://www.instagram.com/archetype_mk/).
Due to some coordination stuff, these are actually live right now. They came out beautiful so check them out!

(https://i.imgur.com/LmPAxRQ.png)

Cable by spacecables (https://www.instagram.com/spacecables/).

(https://i.imgur.com/kE9eMqL.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - THOK and HIBI collabs
Post by: airs on Mon, 21 March 2022, 15:32:55
It's a nice set but IMO the base set should have Latin alphas with Hiragana an optional addon.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - THOK and HIBI collabs
Post by: irithyll on Mon, 21 March 2022, 20:32:28
Can't wait for this gb! Never thought I'd like orange accents, but this set just makes it work. I love to hiragana sublegends as well.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - GB April 8th to May 8th!
Post by: JPoc on Thu, 24 March 2022, 13:13:13
Hey everyone, we finally have a GB date!
The set will run from April 8th to May 8th.

I'm thrilled to finally get this set to group buy. Thanks for all the support so far!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - GB April 8th to May 8th!
Post by: Nurseh on Thu, 24 March 2022, 18:00:26
That Hibi cap bringing in some nostalgia...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - GB April 8th to May 8th!
Post by: bshendy on Thu, 24 March 2022, 23:47:35
Great color palette. I really like what you have going on, but I think there are a few things holding this set back a bit.

As it's presented, the orange's purpose seems to be as an accent color. So with the dark bases with the gray and black, the choice to put hiragana in the base kit and making those sublegends orange too, all-in-all ended up making my eyes ache because there's a bit too much of that bright orange being pumped into the alphas and sublegends. I would've suggested using the black do add a bit more contrast in the alphas so it's a bit easier to look at. And then with the kitting, you're making people pay more if they want less, if they want the latin alphas instead of the hiragana sublegends.

Just my thoughts, but I hope your GB does well!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - GB April 8th to May 8th!
Post by: kidpid on Fri, 25 March 2022, 23:07:06
It's a nice set but IMO the base set should have Latin alphas with Hiragana an optional addon.

Great color palette. I really like what you have going on, but I think there are a few things holding this set back a bit.

As it's presented, the orange's purpose seems to be as an accent color. So with the dark bases with the gray and black, the choice to put hiragana in the base kit and making those sublegends orange too, all-in-all ended up making my eyes ache because there's a bit too much of that bright orange being pumped into the alphas and sublegends. I would've suggested using the black do add a bit more contrast in the alphas so it's a bit easier to look at. And then with the kitting, you're making people pay more if they want less, if they want the latin alphas instead of the hiragana sublegends.

Just my thoughts, but I hope your GB does well!

+1. I typically like hirigana alphas, but I think this sets looks nicer with the mono alphas.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - GB April 8th to May 8th!
Post by: 8um8lebee on Fri, 25 March 2022, 23:20:36
Ditto what others have said, prefer latin alphas in base. I'm in love with this set and was thinking to pick up 2 base kits. If latin was in base, I can buy 2 base kits and get extra hira alphas for flavor every once in a while. Since right now this is reversed, buying base kit twice would give me two hira alphas that I wouldn't really use that much, and I'd still want to pick up two latin alpha kits. That would be a lot of overspending.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - GB April 8th to May 8th!
Post by: Psyquack on Sat, 26 March 2022, 07:19:04
I agree with many of the comments here regarding the sublegends. It seems that the orange sublegends don’t allow the alphas to really pop, though it might be too late in the process to change anything now.

I’ll definitely be watching this one for pricing, but I’m iffy on buying a base kit and then alternate alphas
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - GB April 8th to May 8th!
Post by: lush_bunny on Mon, 28 March 2022, 00:12:50
Hey everyone, we finally have a GB date!
The set will run from April 8th to May 8th.

I'm thrilled to finally get this set to group buy. Thanks for all the support so far!

Oh wow, some actual time for me to save up! Let's go!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - GB April 8th to May 8th!
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 28 March 2022, 14:36:15
I for one prefer hiragana alphas in base with this set. :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - GB April 8th to May 8th!
Post by: bert039 on Mon, 28 March 2022, 21:02:09
The sub legends in black would have been amazing
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Latin Base Kit! | GB April 8th to May 8th
Post by: JPoc on Tue, 29 March 2022, 13:21:51
Good news for the Latin alphas folks.

I've decided to go for two base kits, since we reached enough interest and I've gotten so many requests about this since the start.
That being said, reaching MOQ for the Latin base will be riskier than for a Latin alphas child kit, so hopefully we see good support in the current GMK market.

I hope this solution satisfies everyone.
Title: [IC] GMK Cinder - Latin Base Kit! | GB April 8th to May 8th
Post by: Psyquack on Tue, 29 March 2022, 13:26:08
Good news for the Latin alphas folks.

I've decided to go for two base kits, since we reached enough interest and I've gotten so many requests about this since the start.
That being said, reaching MOQ for the Latin base will be riskier than for a Latin alphas child kit, so hopefully we see good support in the current GMK market.

I hope this solution satisfies everyone.
I appreciate you making this change. I’m now a definite buy-in for the Latin base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Latin Base Kit! | GB April 8th to May 8th
Post by: Friendship on Tue, 29 March 2022, 14:26:36
that is exciting! i was on the fence about it but i think im back on the bandwagon for latin base :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Latin Base Kit! | GB April 8th to May 8th
Post by: unwashed_heathen on Tue, 29 March 2022, 14:44:18
I promised myself I wasn't going to get on any more GMK group buys but you got me with the latin base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Latin Base Kit! | GB April 8th to May 8th
Post by: Mecxs on Wed, 30 March 2022, 04:14:35
I definitely preferred the old kitting. Base + alt alphas lets you cover two boards.

Going for double base kits in a R1 group buy, with an initial IC that was posted 9 months ago in a hobby that's actively shrinking right now - feels like a huge risk.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Latin Base Kit! | GB April 8th to May 8th
Post by: kidpid on Wed, 30 March 2022, 10:35:37
I appreciate the Latin base kit!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Latin Base Kit! | GB April 8th to May 8th
Post by: lush_bunny on Wed, 30 March 2022, 22:11:27
Good news for the Latin alphas folks.

I've decided to go for two base kits, since we reached enough interest and I've gotten so many requests about this since the start.
That being said, reaching MOQ for the Latin base will be riskier than for a Latin alphas child kit, so hopefully we see good support in the current GMK market.

I hope this solution satisfies everyone.

Hm. How will this affect the Hiragana Master Race?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - Latin Base Kit! | GB April 8th to May 8th
Post by: JPoc on Thu, 31 March 2022, 12:41:19
Hm. How will this affect the Hiragana Master Race?

Hopefully not much. The latin base will compete with it, but if the preference for hiragana also shows during the GB and the set does decently well, it should be fine.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Cinder - GB Tomorrow!
Post by: JPoc on Fri, 08 April 2022, 14:44:29
GMK Cinder is live!

Most vendors are up, if yours isn't please check back later today or tomorrow.

GB THREAD (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=116822.0)

Thanks for all the support during the IC!