【IC】S7-elephant R2 (Groupbuy open today )

[Rayndalf]

OMG, the elephant! Please, make a white one like in the first run. I'm in.

I think jacky offered MAO for R1, I think e-white would be better in terms of white.

Yes, e-white will be great. Can you also make the plate more recessed into the case so the bottom edges of the caps disappear in the body of the case?

+1 for hiding the edges of the keys

[jacky]

"People", being me, and pretty much only me. R1 was an extremely slow seller, and I'm surprised it managed to make MOQ at all. Outside of my all brass unit Ja3soteric and the silver one TaehaTypes assembled, pretty much none of the units have been seen by people. I still have seen relatively little interest in the board, and I'd very much expect you to have plenty of time to pick one up. This is not something that will sell out in minutes.

1/ The fact R1 sold out slowly doesn't mean this one will - people talking about the board, TaehaTypes' video on it, etc. Those are all things that will make people want this board.
2/ "pretty much none of the units have been seen by people" - that doesn't mean anything, I mean, your sentence. I'll go and assume you mean almost none of the units have been seen in the wild which is a good sign to me since that means that the owners like their board and don't want to let it go.
3/ "I still have seen relatively little interest in the board" - there weren't many boards produced in R1, so not a lot of people post about it, true. That said, people comment and seem to like the board when it's posted/when it appears on stream. I'd like to see what you base your statement on.

1/ the times it HAS appeared it's been mostly ridiculed by people, because most find the bezels impractically large. Indeed, I needed to make a much taller wrist rest in order to type in mine comfortably at all. It's overall dimensions are quite a lot larger than a TKL, meaning it's a hard sell to anyone actually liking smaller form factor boards. The lack of keys make it less desirable to those who typically use boards of this size.

2/ Yes, I meant seen in the wild. And no, I was NOT referring to for sale. I mean actually seen in person by non-owners. I can't think of a single example that has yet appeared at a Meetup, unless Nathan took his to Seattle this year.

3/ I still don't see enough interest in this board to warrant the idea of it selling out in "seconds", let alone hours. I'm basing my statement off of when I see it posted somewhere. It's too much of a novelty to have large appeal. Even with a 50 unit limit, I don't expect this to sell in the first day.

I see ,personally i am not suppose to sale much

whatever this one go but this one should come again since i dont have this too and hope somone who really love it can grap one

that is why i am sale it as 50 untis .

I am new for GB still cant handle big quantity

[jacky]

Looking forward to it!

Sidenote: Are you sure that you want to keep the price at $350? I though I heard that you ended up taking a loss on the first run.

Yes,$350 is fine for me even if it doesn't have enough profit but i know what price people can accept it

thanks 

[jacky]

50 units were my minimum order quantity it doesnt mean i want do limited groupbuy

[ihalatch]

50 units were my minimum order quantity it doesnt mean i want do limited groupbuy

Oh, I've been waiting for this for a long time. Fingers crossed, I hope to buy one

[cijanzen]

50 units were my minimum order quantity it doesnt mean i want do limited groupbuy

Yeah I think a lot of us read this as a limit of 50 units not a MOQ of 50. Can you confirm?

[jacky]

50 units were my minimum order quantity it doesnt mean i want do limited groupbuy

Yeah I think a lot of us read this as a limit of 50 units not a MOQ of 50. Can you confirm?

Sure ,MOQ of 50.due to first run not reach it so i have cost much then i expect

[cijanzen]

50 units were my minimum order quantity it doesnt mean i want do limited groupbuy

Yeah I think a lot of us read this as a limit of 50 units not a MOQ of 50. Can you confirm?

Sure ,MOQ of 50.due to first run not reach it so i have cost much then i expect

Ah, excellent. I hope we can make it to 50! This community has grown a lot since R1 but we’ll see if people are interested in these giant bezels. I for one love the simple but massive design.

[InvidiousIgnoramus]

Looking forward to it!

Sidenote: Are you sure that you want to keep the price at $350? I though I heard that you ended up taking a loss on the first run.

Yes,$350 is fine for me even if it doesn't have enough profit but i know what price people can accept it

thanks 

I'm gonna say something unpopular, Jacky. Raise the price. I don't want you to have to pay out of pocket like in round 1.

[h9n9n3]

Hi, I'm in too. I'm so happy now.

[skrunk]

Great looking board. I also agree in that the nametag will ruin the board's simple look.

Either way, I am interested in the board!

[The_Boom_Boy]

Is the 60% version still planned?

[kanaka_alpaca]

im IN!!!

[justinhigley]

I'd be all over this

[KaosJ]

More details :

                       1 .Top right corner it have a nametag
         
                       2 .cambered surface make this board more unique

                       3. Left side have RGB curved besides five macros have Rgb curved

                       4.There was no bottom like ca66 design coz it will make case more higher.

                       5.8 degree

I don't understand.  Is this a list of new things for this round?  Do you have any sketches or mockups to show what you mean by RGB curved?

Seems like it is the same list of the first round, in fact idk what he means for nametag (there was no nematag in r1 but that list was the same)

[KaosJ]

I'm totally in!

My advices:
- Keys more recessed inside the case, so it's just a case design +1 or +2mm in height
- Walls tighter to the caps (slightly, to reduce the gap)
- Maybe make a version of the plate without too many useless holes, most of the people will build it ANSI and prefer no cheese plate (e.g. 2 plates: 1 Universal plate + 1 standard ansi)
- E-white and also DARK PURPLE (not pinky purple)
- Less important than other points, what about custom designs on the weight? (for higher price)

[ihalatch]

I'm totally in!

My advices:
- Keys more recessed inside the case, so it's just a case design +1 or +2mm in height
- Walls tighter to the caps (slightly, to reduce the gap)
- Maybe make a version of the plate without too many useless holes, most of the people will build it ANSI and prefer no cheese plate (e.g. 2 plates: 1 Universal plate + 1 standard ansi)
- E-white and also DARK PURPLE (not pinky purple)
- Less important than other points, what about custom designs on the weight? (for higher price)

Agree with all of the above - imo with bigger cases lower sitting caps are better. I like this board - awesome design.

[simplelifes2]

Wow, that's good news. Of course I'm in. 

[puddingfarmer]

Definitely in!
I agree with what's already been said: no name tag, recessed keys.

[hyperdolch]

Im in!!.
No nametag plz.

[kmfmppl]

50 units were my minimum order quantity it doesnt mean i want do limited groupbuy

Yeah I think a lot of us read this as a limit of 50 units not a MOQ of 50. Can you confirm?

Sure ,MOQ of 50.due to first run not reach it so i have cost much then i expect

this is great news!

[Kerasan]

I'm totally in!

My advices:
- Keys more recessed inside the case, so it's just a case design +1 or +2mm in height
- Walls tighter to the caps (slightly, to reduce the gap)
- Maybe make a version of the plate without too many useless holes, most of the people will build it ANSI and prefer no cheese plate (e.g. 2 plates: 1 Universal plate + 1 standard ansi)
- E-white and also DARK PURPLE (not pinky purple)
- Less important than other points, what about custom designs on the weight? (for higher price)

This... especially the first one

[rpiguy9907]

I want to know the any channel or mail for joining GB!

https://discord.gg/rBmSHH

Discord invite no longer works. Says expired :-(

[dr_unconscionable]

Oh my goodness yes, I’m so excited to see a second round of this! I’ve been wanting one of these for ages, and will absolutely get one.

I would love a very dark green, dark blue-gray, or dark purple, though the gray and black ones I've seen also look amazing.

I echo what others have said about recessing the keys and tightening gaps if possible!

[ilezia]

Said it on the other thread but to repeat: yes 100% in. Preferably next year for finances
Not keen on the name-tag to the corner. Looking at some of the photos I agree that slightly tighter fit would be ideal, but not a deal-breaker for me - just want one of these amazing boards.

[jacky]

Do we need a prototype again for R2?

or provide the new color sample then let`s go

[cijanzen]

Do we need a prototype again for R2?

or provide the new color sample that let`s go

If you’re not making any changes to the design then colour samples would be sufficient but if you’re changing any of the geometry I’d say some form of prototype is a must. Even if that drives up the price a bit. I’d rather pay for the R & D to get a better final product.

[JSaintS]

Do we need a prototype again for R2?

or provide the new color sample that let`s go

it depends on the design changes imo. If you keep the board as is, no name tag or anything, I would just provide the new color samples - if you are just going to change the tolerances, a new proto can be made but is not necessary. If you change more than that, I'd go for a prototype, indeed.

Again, this is just how I feel, others might feel differently.

[jacky]

Oh my goodness yes, I’m so excited to see a second round of this! I’ve been wanting one of these for ages, and will absolutely get one.

I would love a very dark green, dark blue-gray, or dark purple, though the gray and black ones I've seen also look amazing.

I echo what others have said about recessing the keys and tightening gaps if possible!

"I echo what others have said about recessing the keys and tightening gaps if possible!"
what is mean ,i dont unstander it well.

[jacky]

Do we need a prototype again for R2?

or provide the new color sample that let`s go

it depends on the design changes imo. If you keep the board as is, no name tag or anything, I would just provide the new color samples - if you are just going to change the tolerances, a new proto can be made but is not necessary. If you change more than that, I'd go for a prototype, indeed.

Again, this is just how I feel, others might feel differently.

I thinks so . can explain what people say at up floor?

[h.parks]

it's like the rama koyu hit the gym and never skipped leg day

[cijanzen]

Oh my goodness yes, I’m so excited to see a second round of this! I’ve been wanting one of these for ages, and will absolutely get one.

I would love a very dark green, dark blue-gray, or dark purple, though the gray and black ones I've seen also look amazing.

I echo what others have said about recessing the keys and tightening gaps if possible!

"I echo what others have said about recessing the keys and tightening gaps if possible!"
what is mean ,i dont unstander it well.

Having taller walls for the keycaps to sit more flush with the case. So the plate is sunk into the case a bit deeper. Also reducing the gap between the case walls to the keycaps on the horizontal axis. So if you look straight down you don’t see as much of a gap between keycaps and the case walls.

[jacky]

Do we need a prototype again for R2?

or provide the new color sample that let`s go

If you’re not making any changes to the design then colour samples would be sufficient but if you’re changing any of the geometry I’d say some form of prototype is a must. Even if that drives up the price a bit. I’d rather pay for the R & D to get a better final product.

Get it ,i will check suggestion what people post.after that list the changing we need do .

[Kerasan]

Oh my goodness yes, I’m so excited to see a second round of this! I’ve been wanting one of these for ages, and will absolutely get one.

I would love a very dark green, dark blue-gray, or dark purple, though the gray and black ones I've seen also look amazing.

I echo what others have said about recessing the keys and tightening gaps if possible!

"I echo what others have said about recessing the keys and tightening gaps if possible!"
what is mean ,i dont unstander it well.

Having taller walls for the keycaps to sit more flush with the case. So the plate is sunk into the case a bit deeper. Also reducing the gap between the case walls to the keycaps on the horizontal axis. So if you look straight down you don’t see as much of a gap between keycaps and the case walls.

yes, I meant this suggestion


for the color I propose a blue like dark solarized,
with the next release of SA dark solarized the matching is endgame imho. 

[mrkantz]

I actually like the spacing between the case and keys, shows off just enough of the brass plate

[SeeNoEvo]

The spacing is fine. As it is I can barely fit my puller in those spots.
Same with the sidewall height. It doesn't need to be recessed further. (pics related)





Pls relocate the bumps-ons so they aren't over the screws again.
Also consider using daughter board so you can clean up the usb port.

[cijanzen]

The spacing is fine. As it is I can barely fit my puller in those spots.
Same with the sidewall height. It doesn't need to be recessed further. (pics related)

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Pls relocate the bumps-ons so they aren't over the screws again.
Also consider using daughter board so you can clean up the usb port.

Based on those pics I agree that the case design wouldn’t need to change. Looks tight and high-profile enough as it is!

[ihalatch]

The spacing is fine. As it is I can barely fit my puller in those spots.
Same with the sidewall height. It doesn't need to be recessed further. (pics related)

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Pls relocate the bumps-ons so they aren't over the screws again.
Also consider using daughter board so you can clean up the usb port.

Based on those pics I agree that the case design wouldn’t need to change. Looks tight and high-profile enough as it is!

I agree. It looks perfect. Can't wait for this GB. Has any timetable been set yet jacky?

[jacky]

Alright,let us get some color sample then move !

E white `dark purple `dark grey `E black`silver

yesterday get news from factory they can clean the stain on sandblasted stuff so this time we not have pvd ,just go for brass sand

anything else ?

[jacky]

I want to know the any channel or mail for joining GB!

https://discord.gg/rBmSHH

Discord invite no longer works. Says expired :-(

https://discord.gg/7zcscC  updated it

[cijanzen]

Alright,let us get some color sample then move !

E white `dark purple `dark grey `E black`silver

yesterday get news from factory they can clean the stain on sandblasted stuff so this time we not have pvd ,just go for brass sand

anything else ?

Are you considering navy colour like R1?

[GigaFlop]

Expensive, but I was pining for one a while ago. Going to see if I can save enough by the time it goes live...

[jacky]

Expensive, but I was pining for one a while ago. Going to see if I can save enough by the time it goes live...

I hope so too.

[CF73]

r2 nicee. big fan of fat bezels 
and yeah, no nameplate pls. maybe on the back where it's not visible.

[osamine]

Can the PCB be hotswap?

I’ll echo what others have said and vote for no nameplate.

Either way I’ll be picking one up.

[blizzara01]

This will eat my desk  )

[Hedgey]

Jacky,

I think a dark green like a forest green would look amazing.

[yohannes]

I want to know the any channel or mail for joining GB!

https://discord.gg/7zcscC

Jacky, can you repost your discord channel? it was invalid.

[cijanzen]

I want to know the any channel or mail for joining GB!

https://discord.gg/7zcscC

Jacky, can you repost your discord channel? it was invalid.

https://discord.gg/cGF2NNT

[jacky]

Get some alu block, will do the color sample tmr.