Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:10:44
(http://i.imgur.com/sFZVDFv.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/uHmu1HV.jpg)
because mods want this moved somewhere, here it is, i will place my story in the OP when i can, and im currently speaking with cc and the forum admins about this, and will discuss more soon
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:12:02
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:15:28
*WARNING*
Unpopular opinion: mass-produced fake CCs will give everyone an opportunity to own an almost identical product without the outrageous prices
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:17:09
(Something else that goes down whilst Rowdy is asleep.)
To those that got duped, maybe CC will see you right. I hope something can be worked out.
I, too, was surprised and amazed at the influx of translucents, and thought CC and his gnomes had been busy.
But now ...
I supposed it was inevitable eventually. Small and rare things of value are usually copied. This has happened before. I guess someone just couldn't resist making a few bucks from unsuspecting collectors.
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:21:07
No racist.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:21:27
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33569.msg1133026#msg1133026 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33569.msg1133026#msg1133026)
Post by: LONGZILLA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:22:46
I supposed it was inevitable eventually. Small and rare things of value are usually copied. This has happened before. I guess someone just couldn't resist making a few bucks from unsuspecting collectors.
Totally. Seemed inevitable, buyers/traders will need to be more aware moving forward that these exist.
Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:23:27
So what about those other 'rare' clacks that were posted the other day?? Are those legit??
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33569.msg1133026#msg1133026 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33569.msg1133026#msg1133026)
Judging by the pic in the OP, an easy way to find out would be to get a pic of the bottom of the cap.
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:23:40
It's a shame people have been introduced to these fakes through paying inflated prices for them. If they were sold to people at $20 then it wouldn't have been such a big deal. I wouldn't mind owning a fake CC myself as long as it was priced around the same as a real retail CC. Before a ****storm erupts, think about ALL the different kinds of replica products that exist and are widely used.
*WARNING*
Unpopular opinion: mass-produced fake CCs will give everyone an opportunity to own an almost identical product without the outrageous prices
I'm pretty sure this is a very separate discussion. It's one thing to make more varied keycaps available to the public for cheaper prices and another to completely copy someone else's work in a shady manner like this and then expect for your copies to sell for a lot of money. I won't compare Clacks to Rembrandt, but while many of us would love to have nice oil pantings in our apartments, would you say it's okay for back alley copies to come out and be sold for millions of dollars to unsuspecting customers? This is a very different situation that you're trying to justify. Copying someone's artwork, without permission, and moreover pretending for this artwork to be genuine =/= good thing for the masses. What other keycap makers, like Bro Caps or Gasmask, have been doing is the right way to go about it.
Post by: meiosis on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:24:05
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:26:07
Whoever disrespects an artist such as CC is disgrace of a human being.
I say the more fakes the more expensive real CC's are worth.
Also, its like the Euro car world. running FAKE BBS REPS gets you made fun of and youre a huge joke to the scene.
So why would people buy fakes? It isnt going to make the real ones any less valuable.
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:27:37
I supposed it was inevitable eventually. Small and rare things of value are usually copied. This has happened before. I guess someone just couldn't resist making a few bucks from unsuspecting collectors.
It seems that, much like other art, we now need to establish the provenance of all Clacks and maybe even include some sort of authenticating device. Sad that it's come to this, but I suppose it was inevitable.
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:29:45
It's a shame people have been introduced to these fakes through paying inflated prices for them. If they were sold to people at $20 then it wouldn't have been such a big deal. I wouldn't mind owning a fake CC myself as long as it was priced around the same as a real retail CC. Before a ****storm erupts, think about ALL the different kinds of replica products that exist and are widely used.
*WARNING*
Unpopular opinion: mass-produced fake CCs will give everyone an opportunity to own an almost identical product without the outrageous prices
I'm pretty sure this is a very separate discussion. It's one thing to make more varied keycaps available to the public for cheaper prices and another to completely copy someone else's work in a shady manner like this and then expect for your copies to sell for a lot of money. I won't compare Clacks to Rembrandt, but while many of us would love to have nice oil pantings in our apartments, would you say it's okay for back alley copies to come out and be sold for millions of dollars to unsuspecting customers? This is a very different situation that you're trying to justify. Copying someone's artwork, without permission, and moreover pretending for this artwork to be genuine =/= good thing for the masses. What other keycap makers, like Bro Caps or Gasmask, have been doing is the right way to go about it.
Perhaps it is best left as a separate discussion.
Woops I posted this in the mail thread..
Whoever disrespects an artist such as CC is disgrace of a human being.
I say the more fakes the more expensive real CC's are worth.
Also, its like the Euro car world. running FAKE BBS REPS gets you made fun of and youre a huge joke to the scene.
So why would people buy fakes? It isnt going to make the real ones any less valuable.
The only difference is that click clacks are mere molded plastics, despite being art. As it has already been proven, they don't seem too difficult to replicate. Cars are made of hundreds, if not thousands, of parts and are not a good comparison.
The only difference I see with the fakes is the lack of branding on the bottom. Aesthetically, they look identical, and that's what most people care about.
Post by: neunelfer on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:32:17
:)) :)) :))
It was only a matter of time, folks. Enjoy your $$$ pieces of plastic. Many others will enjoy them for a percentage of the cost. :cool:
Selling copyrighted material is illegal though. So nope.
What is the deal with the Vader CC then?
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:32:35
Post by: neunelfer on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:32:59
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:34:09
From the other thread::)) :)) :))
It was only a matter of time, folks. Enjoy your $$$ pieces of plastic. Many others will enjoy them for a percentage of the cost. :cool:
Selling copyrighted material is illegal though. So nope.
What is the deal with the Vader CC then?
Hmm, some hard hitting questions up in here.
Is cc Asian?
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:34:40
I find CC's were really just for the sentimental value, a true person who enjoys it won't mind, but just be more cautious with trades and sales.
I agree very much, I said this in IRC before
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:35:05
From the other thread::)) :)) :))
It was only a matter of time, folks. Enjoy your $$$ pieces of plastic. Many others will enjoy them for a percentage of the cost. :cool:
Selling copyrighted material is illegal though. So nope.
What is the deal with the Vader CC then?
Hmm, some hard hitting questions up in here.
Is cc Asian?
I'm Chinese so send on the bootleg
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:36:00
I'm Chinese so send on the bootleg
What does Chinese have to do with this? We're only talking about Korea or Asia.
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:36:03
So who wants to hook me up with fakes
Same here...I'd be willing to buy one at "retail" price. The only problem with that is most people with a fake clack, of course, paid $$$ and will want that much in return.
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:36:46
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:37:21
I'm Chinese so send on the bootleg
What does Chinese have to do with this? We're only talking about Korea or Asia.
Well I'm part Asian and an honorary member of the Korean community
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:38:39
I'm Chinese so send on the bootleg
What does Chinese have to do with this? We're only talking about Korea or Asia.
Well I'm part Asian and an honorary member of the Korean community
I see. Based on the teachings of dubsgalore, I can assume you don't care about Clacks, and you are the creator of the fakes.
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:39:22
I'm Chinese so send on the bootleg
What does Chinese have to do with this? We're only talking about Korea or Asia.
Well I'm part Asian and an honorary member of the Korean community
I see. Based on the teachings of dubsgalore, I can assume you don't care about Clacks, and you are the creator of the fakes.
**** you got me
also I can't wait to get home to finally be able to post the original fake Korean clacks
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:41:01
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:41:41
I'm Chinese so send on the bootleg
What does Chinese have to do with this? We're only talking about Korea or Asia.
Well I'm part Asian and an honorary member of the Korean community
I see. Based on the teachings of dubsgalore, I can assume you don't care about Clacks, and you are the creator of the fakes.
Moose, can we limit the personal attacks here. I read dubs posts, and I believe it was taken far out of context. If you guys have an issue, please work it out via PM.
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:42:07
I'm Chinese so send on the bootleg
What does Chinese have to do with this? We're only talking about Korea or Asia.
this caused me to spit my dinner all over my keyboard lol
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:44:48
i think we could probably show a little more respect to clacks work here, and the person who he is
Agreed, also there's no need to repeat what's been said many times before. Read the Clack FAQ (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=24463.0)
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:47:28
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:53:13
anyways, doubled checked my Julys and we're all good here
(http://i.imgur.com/n90468O.jpg)
waiting on the full story in the OP bunny, good luck
Post by: jalaj on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:55:26
1. prohibit PP gift as a payment requirement
2. Provide thorough pictures of the product, topside, bottom, etc.
3. Deal with reputable people
4. Hold dearly on to your tighty whities, because dupes are unavoidable, use 1, 2, and 3 to CYA
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 02 December 2013, 13:59:50
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:00:52
This means:1. This has nothing to do with the situation
1. prohibit PP gift as a payment requirement
2. Provide thorough pictures of the product, topside, bottom, etc.
3. Deal with reputable people
4. Hold dearly on to your tighty whities, because dupes are unavoidable, use 1, 2, and 3 to CYA
2. Yup
3. The culprit(s) here are very reputable on GH
4. Okay?
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:01:24
The only way to avoid any of this is to ban clickclack/Clack Factory, as well as any pictures or discussion of the items.
and all Asians and Koreans don't forget
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:01:54
The only way to avoid any of this is to ban clickclack/Clack Factory, as well as any pictures or discussion of the items.
and all Asians and Koreans don't forget
Yes, yes. Of course. No racist, by the way.
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:02:25
The only way to avoid any of this is to ban clickclack/Clack Factory, as well as any pictures or discussion of the items.
and all Asians and Koreans don't forget
Yes, yes. Of course. No racist, by the way.
That goes without saying
Post by: meiosis on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:06:33
The only way to avoid any of this is to ban clickclack/Clack Factory, as well as any pictures or discussion of the items.
and all Asians and Koreans don't forget
Well looks like I'm not Asian just Korean :(
Post by: longweight on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:09:00
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:09:46
I hope that no one paid a lot for one of these without seeing the back of the cap!
Probably trades. You trade a real clack for a fake one, then mad.
Post by: Binge on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:10:13
CC has a lot to lose considering I've been doing something similar for a little bit. This whole thing is expensive and expensively time consuming. People with greater means will, of course, make a mess of this without much effort at all. A worrisome thing...
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:10:29
Post by: AGmurdercore on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:10:38
Post by: Krogenar on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:13:16
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:14:02
Is there any chance of legal action? Even if CC couldn't do anything to the people who are making them (assuming these are from overseas) isn't there something that could be done, legally?
doub it....
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:14:09
Is there any chance of legal action? Even if CC couldn't do anything to the people who are making them (assuming these are from overseas) isn't there something that could be done, legally?
International. No recourse. Only chance is social consequences on GH, DT, OTD, KBD
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:15:01
Is there any chance of legal action? Even if CC couldn't do anything to the people who are making them (assuming these are from overseas) isn't there something that could be done, legally?
doub it....
Unless they are from China were copyright law barely exists, CC should be able too... its more if he can afford too
Post by: jalaj on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:16:03
This means:1. This has nothing to do with the situation
1. prohibit PP gift as a payment requirement
2. Provide thorough pictures of the product, topside, bottom, etc.
3. Deal with reputable people
4. Hold dearly on to your tighty whities, because dupes are unavoidable, use 1, 2, and 3 to CYA
2. Yup
3. The culprit(s) here are very reputable on GH
4. Okay?
PP gift does not allow the buyer a recourse in event of being sold misrepresented goods, whereas at least PP Goods does. It's silly to impose PP Gift onto buyers when PP is going to collect their fees from one party or another. The main reason I believe sellers want PP Gift is to skirt the "supposed" issue of being burned by someone abusing the dispute policy provided through PP Goods.
It really comes down to trusting the signature markings on pieces of plastic which unfortunately can easily be replicated, so if number 3. doesn't hold, then refer to 4.
Post by: Krogenar on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:17:15
Post by: AGmurdercore on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:18:41
Maybe CC will mass-produce them himself, add a maker's mark, and then drop the price. Then at least he's ruined the copyright infringer's market.This does not seem like a good thing to me really :S
Post by: snoopy on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:28:29
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51135.msg1124187#msg1124187
Post by: Binge on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:31:48
So this is maybe not a good deal?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51135.msg1124187#msg1124187
ohhhh snap
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:32:56
Post by: frvrngn on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:33:20
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:33:36
So this is maybe not a good deal?Saw those over at KBDmania, I think that's one of them :p
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51135.msg1124187#msg1124187
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:35:32
well i guess part of the cat is out the bag
Oh man this is getting really juicy...
Post by: LONGZILLA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:36:27
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:39:22
I really want my first CC and had I not seen this thread I would never had known if one bought was a fake. I just never thought of somebody faking a CC in the first place! At least now the community is aware of the problem and knows the steps to avoid the issue (with clear bottom photos among other things). That should keep most safe for now from buying or trading for one.
I'm more surprised it's taken this long to happen.
well i guess part of the cat is out the bag
Oh man this is getting really juicy...
Is michael bolton singing?
(http://www.adweek.com/files/imagecache/node-blog/blogs/starburst_michael_bolton.jpg)
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:47:47
We've gone from gelly to sooo juicywell i guess part of the cat is out the bagOh man this is getting really juicy...
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:51:26
So what about those other 'rare' clacks that were posted the other day?? Are those legit??
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33569.msg1133026#msg1133026 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33569.msg1133026#msg1133026)
Seeing as how CC has listed in his Head Up thread "(TBA) Rot Pack sale", they have the ring of legitimacy.
I just really hope that CC doesn't give up making these and offering them to the GH community. I have only one skull, and the detail in something that small still amazes me. I have it on my HHKB which I use every day - I couldn't imagine putting it anywhere else.
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 02 December 2013, 14:59:28
We've come a long way
(http://i.imgur.com/KxaaPqV.jpg)
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:00:32
This is getting interesting, sucks I have to leave the house today :-\
Post by: snoopy on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:01:01
Just don't forget about the OG real Korean click clacks. (not mine don't smite me)
We've come a long wayShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/KxaaPqV.jpg)
wtf?
looks like clacks after a kmiller high temperature experiment
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:01:11
So this is maybe not a good deal?:confused:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51135.msg1124187#msg1124187
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:01:23
I'll start by saying I in no way support fakes being sold as the real deal. That being said, props where props are due for craftsmanship on the fakes. I don't have one to compare directly to the real thing, and I'm sure there would be noticeable differences, but from the pics it looks like the duper did a pretty good job. A wasted talent if you ask me, with the tools used to create those fakes he could've made something unique.
This is getting interesting, sucks I have to leave the house today :-\
dont be so sure the maker isnt making something themselves also
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:02:30
I'll start by saying I in no way support fakes being sold as the real deal. That being said, props where props are due for craftsmanship on the fakes. I don't have one to compare directly to the real thing, and I'm sure there would be noticeable differences, but from the pics it looks like the duper did a pretty good job. A wasted talent if you ask me, with the tools used to create those fakes he could've made something unique.We think we know who made them. Lets just say they have some other business ventures...
This is getting interesting, sucks I have to leave the house today :-\
Bunny got it first haha...
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:03:33
I'll start by saying I in no way support fakes being sold as the real deal. That being said, props where props are due for craftsmanship on the fakes. I don't have one to compare directly to the real thing, and I'm sure there would be noticeable differences, but from the pics it looks like the duper did a pretty good job. A wasted talent if you ask me, with the tools used to create those fakes he could've made something unique.
This is getting interesting, sucks I have to leave the house today :-\
dont be so sure the maker isnt making something themselves also
I'm positive they are, and the fakes show their capability for replication at the very least.
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:03:57
I'll start by saying I in no way support fakes being sold as the real deal. That being said, props where props are due for craftsmanship on the fakes. I don't have one to compare directly to the real thing, and I'm sure there would be noticeable differences, but from the pics it looks like the duper did a pretty good job. A wasted talent if you ask me, with the tools used to create those fakes he could've made something unique.
This is getting interesting, sucks I have to leave the house today :-\
dont be so sure the maker isnt making something themselves also
mightn't that be somewhat of a knockoff also? If they will copy one thing, maybe they will copy others
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:03:57
Post by: eth0s on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:04:35
Is there any chance of legal action? Even if CC couldn't do anything to the people who are making them (assuming these are from overseas) isn't there something that could be done, legally?
doub it....
Unless they are from China were copyright law barely exists, CC should be able too... its more if he can afford too
Under US Copyright and Trademark Laws, CC can sue anybody that makes fake Clacks for copyright infringement and collect money damages, and he can get an injunction barring future sales, and he can get a warrant to confiscate any fake merchandise located within the United States. However, in this situation, Click Clack would have a very hard time finding out whom he should sue, and where they live and/or operate. Copyright and trademark enforcement litigation works very well when trying to combat fake Gucci purses and fake Rolex watches being sold in stores in Chinatown, NYC (and sometimes in Barney's and Bergdorf's too). However, it will be nigh impossible for CC to sue the unknown manufacturers of these fake Clacks, and to confiscate their counterfeit Clacks, since they are most likely located outside of the USA.
Maybe CC will mass-produce them himself, add a maker's mark, and then drop the price. Then at least he's ruined the copyright infringer's market.
Click Clack has already put a maker's mark on all of his Clacks. The problem is that once the market price of a translucent Clack went to $400, counterfeiters had a great incentive to enter the market with fake Clacks. Now we have this problem: Click Clack himself is getting only $25 for a new Clack, while the infringers are getting $400. It is obvious that Click Clack is currently making as many Clacks as he can, given his current amount of resources. The answer is not to flood the market with cheap authentic Clacks, since that is simply not feasible from a production standpoint. The real answer is that Click Clack should start charging much higher prices to capture more of available the market price. That way, CC can invest more money in making new Clacks, and ultimately bring the price back down through economies of scale. I know that profit-making is anathema to CC, but CC if you're reading this, taking profits now is the best way to fight back against counterfeit goods. It may seem counter-intuitive, especially coming from a quasi-Marxist like me, but it really is the best course of action.
So this is maybe not a good deal?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51135.msg1124187#msg1124187
I guess we have to ask every seller to show the back of the Clack from now on. Also, please refuse to buy fake Clacks. Everybody is a free-actor here, but really you shouldn't buy the fakes, it rewards bad behavior. And it's you the buyer who are ultimately getting ripped off, as I'm sure the quality is not the same as a real Clack. [also you are ripping off CC, but that goes without saying.] Anyway, copyright infringement is theft. There is no excusing it.
My Last Comment: Please be careful with the anti-Korean and anti-Asian comments. I know you guys don't mean to be racist, but it comes out sounding pretty racist. This is not a problem of ethnicity or national origin, it's a problem of capitalism and globalism, and the anonymity afforded by international internet connectivity, and TBH, plain old criminal behavior. The cheaters can operate internationally, but the good guys can only use legal remedies that are effective within the US borders. Outside of the US (and some treaty partner countries), those legal remedies are virtually worthless.
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:04:41
I'll start by saying I in no way support fakes being sold as the real deal. That being said, props where props are due for craftsmanship on the fakes. I don't have one to compare directly to the real thing, and I'm sure there would be noticeable differences, but from the pics it looks like the duper did a pretty good job. A wasted talent if you ask me, with the tools used to create those fakes he could've made something unique.
This is getting interesting, sucks I have to leave the house today :-\
dont be so sure the maker isnt making something themselves also
I'm positive they are, and the fakes show their capibility for replication at the very least. Could even be someone who's already a vendor here....
such end-game items
(http://pepijndevos.nl/images/mind-blown.gif)
Post by: Michael on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:05:29
I can attest to the time and investment a lot of us individuals have put into this. And now, this has caused me to have to push back my release date to work on solutions to prevent this happening with
my own products. CC is just a regular dude like any of us, and puts a lot of time and effort in creating a great product that people will enjoy. It has taken me the better part of 1 year to really get my product
in a place I feel comfortable releasing. I put in countless days, weeks, months into this, and for someone to come along and take your work is just pitiful.
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:06:32
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:07:04
This wasn't his end game item you twat.I'll start by saying I in no way support fakes being sold as the real deal. That being said, props where props are due for craftsmanship on the fakes. I don't have one to compare directly to the real thing, and I'm sure there would be noticeable differences, but from the pics it looks like the duper did a pretty good job. A wasted talent if you ask me, with the tools used to create those fakes he could've made something unique.
This is getting interesting, sucks I have to leave the house today :-\
dont be so sure the maker isnt making something themselves also
I'm positive they are, and the fakes show their capibility for replication at the very least. Could even be someone who's already a vendor here....
such end-game itemsShow Image(http://pepijndevos.nl/images/mind-blown.gif)
Post by: Michael on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:07:51
can you get a copyright on your designs?
copyrights mean nothing in most other countries. meaning - they are free to copy things and profit from them without recourse of legal action.
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:08:40
This wasn't his end game item you twat.I'll start by saying I in no way support fakes being sold as the real deal. That being said, props where props are due for craftsmanship on the fakes. I don't have one to compare directly to the real thing, and I'm sure there would be noticeable differences, but from the pics it looks like the duper did a pretty good job. A wasted talent if you ask me, with the tools used to create those fakes he could've made something unique.
This is getting interesting, sucks I have to leave the house today :-\
dont be so sure the maker isnt making something themselves also
I'm positive they are, and the fakes show their capibility for replication at the very least. Could even be someone who's already a vendor here....
such end-game itemsShow Image(http://pepijndevos.nl/images/mind-blown.gif)
What are you on about, kid? I was talking about end-game items in general. I don't know specific individuals' end-game items. Quit getting butthurt over comments not meant to offend anyone specifically.
Furthermore, my mind = blown gif was towards the fact the fakes could be coming from a vendor here
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:09:35
can you get a copyright on your designs?
In the US, anything you "publish" is already copyrighted. You just have to assert the right.
Post by: eth0s on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:12:41
can you get a copyright on your designs?
In the US, anything you "publish" is already copyrighted. You just have to assert the right.
Well, you also have to police your copyright and trademark through expensive litigation to avoid dilution. See, the case of Starbucks v. Charbucks, http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2013/11/charbucks_beats_back_starbucks.html
Post by: snoopy on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:12:56
This wasn't his end game item you twat.I'll start by saying I in no way support fakes being sold as the real deal. That being said, props where props are due for craftsmanship on the fakes. I don't have one to compare directly to the real thing, and I'm sure there would be noticeable differences, but from the pics it looks like the duper did a pretty good job. A wasted talent if you ask me, with the tools used to create those fakes he could've made something unique.
This is getting interesting, sucks I have to leave the house today :-\
dont be so sure the maker isnt making something themselves also
I'm positive they are, and the fakes show their capibility for replication at the very least. Could even be someone who's already a vendor here....
such end-game itemsShow Image(http://pepijndevos.nl/images/mind-blown.gif)
had to ask a dictionary what a twat is. --> learned new word today. :D
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:14:35
can you get a copyright on your designs?
copyrights mean nothing in most other countries. meaning - they are free to copy things and profit from them without recourse of legal action.
And if the original artist wanted to take action, it could be very expensive and might not end up with a satisfactory conclusion.
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:15:42
I can attest to the time and investment a lot of us individuals have put into this. And now, this has caused me to have to push back my release date to work on solutions to prevent this happening with
my own products. CC is just a regular dude like any of us, and puts a lot of time and effort in creating a great product that people will enjoy. It has taken me the better part of 1 year to really get my product
in a place I feel comfortable releasing. I put in countless days, weeks, months into this, and for someone to come along and take your work is just pitiful.
What was the brobot v1 molded off of? I still love the new designs, but let's be real here.
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:17:25
This wasn't his end game item you twat.I'll start by saying I in no way support fakes being sold as the real deal. That being said, props where props are due for craftsmanship on the fakes. I don't have one to compare directly to the real thing, and I'm sure there would be noticeable differences, but from the pics it looks like the duper did a pretty good job. A wasted talent if you ask me, with the tools used to create those fakes he could've made something unique.
This is getting interesting, sucks I have to leave the house today :-\
dont be so sure the maker isnt making something themselves also
I'm positive they are, and the fakes show their capibility for replication at the very least. Could even be someone who's already a vendor here....
such end-game itemsShow Image(http://pepijndevos.nl/images/mind-blown.gif)
had to ask a dictionary what a twat is. --> learned new word today. :D
Twat is one of my very favorite words
Post by: digi on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:21:21
Post by: Michael on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:22:59
I can attest to the time and investment a lot of us individuals have put into this. And now, this has caused me to have to push back my release date to work on solutions to prevent this happening with
my own products. CC is just a regular dude like any of us, and puts a lot of time and effort in creating a great product that people will enjoy. It has taken me the better part of 1 year to really get my product
in a place I feel comfortable releasing. I put in countless days, weeks, months into this, and for someone to come along and take your work is just pitiful.
What was the brobot v1 molded off of? I still love the new designs, but let's be real here.
Be real about what? It's no secret about V1. But you seem to be undermining the work put into the craft. I learned, grew and matured and moved on. Lessons learned and moved forward. Maybe you should, too.
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:28:46
I can attest to the time and investment a lot of us individuals have put into this. And now, this has caused me to have to push back my release date to work on solutions to prevent this happening with
my own products. CC is just a regular dude like any of us, and puts a lot of time and effort in creating a great product that people will enjoy. It has taken me the better part of 1 year to really get my product
in a place I feel comfortable releasing. I put in countless days, weeks, months into this, and for someone to come along and take your work is just pitiful.
What was the brobot v1 molded off of? I still love the new designs, but let's be real here.
Be real about what? It's no secret about V1. But you seem to be undermining the work put into the craft. I learned, grew and matured and moved on. Lessons learned and moved forward. Maybe you should, too.
Are the current v2 brobots hand made or are you fabricating caps that were originally made from a 3d printer?
I don't know what I'd be moving on from, I just find your comments to be a little hypocritical. You can't pretend that you didn't copy someone else's hard work, profit from it, then act like it didn't happen by posting in this thread.
Post by: Signature on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:31:15
He made his own design and put alot of efford into it, apart from this whom just copied ccs design. Blaming bro is like saying CC cant make his ccs cause he took the design from keycaps
I can attest to the time and investment a lot of us individuals have put into this. And now, this has caused me to have to push back my release date to work on solutions to prevent this happening with
my own products. CC is just a regular dude like any of us, and puts a lot of time and effort in creating a great product that people will enjoy. It has taken me the better part of 1 year to really get my product
in a place I feel comfortable releasing. I put in countless days, weeks, months into this, and for someone to come along and take your work is just pitiful.
What was the brobot v1 molded off of? I still love the new designs, but let's be real here.
Be real about what? It's no secret about V1. But you seem to be undermining the work put into the craft. I learned, grew and matured and moved on. Lessons learned and moved forward. Maybe you should, too.
Are the current v2 brobots hand made or are you fabricating caps that were originally made from a 3d printer?
I don't know what I'd be moving on from, I just find your comments to be a little hypocritical. You can't pretend that you didn't copy someone else's hard work, profit from it, then act like it didn't happen by posting in this thread.
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:34:40
I can attest to the time and investment a lot of us individuals have put into this. And now, this has caused me to have to push back my release date to work on solutions to prevent this happening with
my own products. CC is just a regular dude like any of us, and puts a lot of time and effort in creating a great product that people will enjoy. It has taken me the better part of 1 year to really get my product
in a place I feel comfortable releasing. I put in countless days, weeks, months into this, and for someone to come along and take your work is just pitiful.
What was the brobot v1 molded off of? I still love the new designs, but let's be real here.
Be real about what? It's no secret about V1. But you seem to be undermining the work put into the craft. I learned, grew and matured and moved on. Lessons learned and moved forward. Maybe you should, too.
Are the current v2 brobots hand made or are you fabricating caps that were originally made from a 3d printer?
I don't know what I'd be moving on from, I just find your comments to be a little hypocritical. You can't pretend that you didn't copy someone else's hard work, profit from it, then act like it didn't happen by posting in this thread.
I'm curious, how do you think the 3d printer knew what to print? Perhaps magic?
Also, TIL CC can copy Skeletor/Darth Vader but bro bots can't copy transformers.
Also, when did you become the arbiter of what makes a proper positive mold?
Post by: Michael on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:37:30
I can attest to the time and investment a lot of us individuals have put into this. And now, this has caused me to have to push back my release date to work on solutions to prevent this happening with
my own products. CC is just a regular dude like any of us, and puts a lot of time and effort in creating a great product that people will enjoy. It has taken me the better part of 1 year to really get my product
in a place I feel comfortable releasing. I put in countless days, weeks, months into this, and for someone to come along and take your work is just pitiful.
What was the brobot v1 molded off of? I still love the new designs, but let's be real here.
Be real about what? It's no secret about V1. But you seem to be undermining the work put into the craft. I learned, grew and matured and moved on. Lessons learned and moved forward. Maybe you should, too.
Are the current v2 brobots hand made or are you fabricating caps that were originally made from a 3d printer?
I don't know what I'd be moving on from, I just find your comments to be a little hypocritical. You can't pretend that you didn't copy someone else's hard work, profit from it, then act like it didn't happen by posting in this thread.
If you really believe that computer generated art isn't an acceptable form of art, then you're quite an ignorant person. I used an existing design with V1 to learn how to create caps. More of the process than anything else. Did I get
paid for the work I put into creating custom molds, colors, etc? Yes. Do I feel bad about it? I feel it was a learning experience, and I wasn't looking to cheat anyone. Because a lot of work was put into molds, colors, money and time.
Now that I feel comfortable making my own designs, that's exactly what they will be. My own. And no, V2 wasn't orginally made from a 3D printer. I had metal molds made. Expensive ones, at that. The same kind of molds they use to
create all the toys you see out there. Do you undermine that work as well? I think your ignorance just might run that deep. I do have some versions of my cap that are made in different mediums - 3D printing, Metal pouring and plastic
pouring.
But since this is a top regarding clacks, let's keep it on topic and you can open a new thread since you feel the need to bash me.
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:40:13
I can attest to the time and investment a lot of us individuals have put into this. And now, this has caused me to have to push back my release date to work on solutions to prevent this happening with
my own products. CC is just a regular dude like any of us, and puts a lot of time and effort in creating a great product that people will enjoy. It has taken me the better part of 1 year to really get my product
in a place I feel comfortable releasing. I put in countless days, weeks, months into this, and for someone to come along and take your work is just pitiful.
What was the brobot v1 molded off of? I still love the new designs, but let's be real here.
Be real about what? It's no secret about V1. But you seem to be undermining the work put into the craft. I learned, grew and matured and moved on. Lessons learned and moved forward. Maybe you should, too.
Are the current v2 brobots hand made or are you fabricating caps that were originally made from a 3d printer?
I don't know what I'd be moving on from, I just find your comments to be a little hypocritical. You can't pretend that you didn't copy someone else's hard work, profit from it, then act like it didn't happen by posting in this thread.
If you really believe that computer generated art isn't an acceptable form of art, then you're quite an ignorant person. I used an existing design with V1 to learn how to create caps. More of the process than anything else. Did I get
paid for the work I put into creating custom molds, colors, etc? Yes. Do I feel bad about it? I feel it was a learning experience, and I wasn't looking to cheat anyone. Because a lot of work was put into molds, colors, money and time.
Now that I feel comfortable making my own designs, that's exactly what they will be. My own. And no, V2 wasn't orginally made from a 3D printer. I had metal molds made. Expensive ones, at that. The same kind of molds they use to
create all the toys you see out there. Do you undermine that work as well? I think your ignorance just might run that deep. I do have some versions of my cap that are made in different mediums - 3D printing, Metal pouring and plastic
pouring.
But since this is a top regarding clacks, let's keep it on topic and you can open a new thread since you feel the need to bash me.
Listen, I'm sorry I derailed the thread. And as I said before I like the new work. But you can't post in a thread saying coping is bad when you yourself copied someone else's work and profited off if it. Hopefully you can see the hypocrisy in that.
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:44:42
(http://i.imgur.com/1qXPfcD.jpg)
Post by: Michael on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:45:06
I can attest to the time and investment a lot of us individuals have put into this. And now, this has caused me to have to push back my release date to work on solutions to prevent this happening with
my own products. CC is just a regular dude like any of us, and puts a lot of time and effort in creating a great product that people will enjoy. It has taken me the better part of 1 year to really get my product
in a place I feel comfortable releasing. I put in countless days, weeks, months into this, and for someone to come along and take your work is just pitiful.
What was the brobot v1 molded off of? I still love the new designs, but let's be real here.
Be real about what? It's no secret about V1. But you seem to be undermining the work put into the craft. I learned, grew and matured and moved on. Lessons learned and moved forward. Maybe you should, too.
Are the current v2 brobots hand made or are you fabricating caps that were originally made from a 3d printer?
I don't know what I'd be moving on from, I just find your comments to be a little hypocritical. You can't pretend that you didn't copy someone else's hard work, profit from it, then act like it didn't happen by posting in this thread.
If you really believe that computer generated art isn't an acceptable form of art, then you're quite an ignorant person. I used an existing design with V1 to learn how to create caps. More of the process than anything else. Did I get
paid for the work I put into creating custom molds, colors, etc? Yes. Do I feel bad about it? I feel it was a learning experience, and I wasn't looking to cheat anyone. Because a lot of work was put into molds, colors, money and time.
Now that I feel comfortable making my own designs, that's exactly what they will be. My own. And no, V2 wasn't orginally made from a 3D printer. I had metal molds made. Expensive ones, at that. The same kind of molds they use to
create all the toys you see out there. Do you undermine that work as well? I think your ignorance just might run that deep. I do have some versions of my cap that are made in different mediums - 3D printing, Metal pouring and plastic
pouring.
But since this is a top regarding clacks, let's keep it on topic and you can open a new thread since you feel the need to bash me.
Listen, I'm sorry I derailed the thread. And as I said before I like the new work. But you can't post in a thread saying coping is bad when you yourself copied someone else's work and profited off if it. Hopefully you can see the hypocrisy in that.
That's a fair point, but the fact is there are plenty of different ways 'copying' can be conceived. Such as taking an original work, recreating that work exactly and using the same artists name to do so. I guess using things in the exact same medium
or not is a topic for debate. They were different mediums, and completely different uses. But again - as I said, learn and grow. So I can still make a comment regarding this topic using that knowledge. If I were to pretend that never happened, then
yes, you have a valid point.
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:48:28
I flipped my red trans over and wtf is this ****!?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1qXPfcD.jpg)
Another fake?
Damn!
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:49:39
I flipped my red trans over and wtf is this ****!?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1qXPfcD.jpg)
Another fake?
Damn!
Nah, just kidding.
(http://i.imgur.com/YdCrzfT.jpg)
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:50:18
I flipped my red trans over and wtf is this ****!?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1qXPfcD.jpg)
Another fake?
Damn!
Nah, just kidding.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YdCrzfT.jpg)
The one with the CF mark is clearly photoshopped in
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:51:34
I flipped my red trans over and wtf is this ****!?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1qXPfcD.jpg)
Now that is interesting. LOL photoshop edit.
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:54:30
I flipped my red trans over and wtf is this ****!?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1qXPfcD.jpg)
Another fake?
Damn!
Nah, just kidding.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YdCrzfT.jpg)
The one with the CF mark is clearly photoshopped in
Now we can't even trust photos of the bottoms.
We're only left with one option:
The only way to avoid any of this is to ban clickclack/Clack Factory, as well as any pictures or discussion of the items.
Post by: Moosecraft on Mon, 02 December 2013, 15:55:03
Post by: Tym on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:02:09
Post by: AGmurdercore on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:05:41
I'm sure there are 2 different keys there :3 One with round corners and one with sharp, or am I missing something ? :rolleyes:A yeah, it is called photoshop :D
Moose clearly edited the photos to show that we can't be save purchasing CCs anymore even if they show us pic of the bottom.
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:08:30
now the people faking them will also fake his sig in addition to photoshop
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:17:24
this is why we should have stopped inflated clack prices earlier.
now the people faking them will also fake his sig in addition to photoshop
Didn't you just try to buy a Julysicle for $100, but couldn't because you couldn't afford it?
Post by: Tym on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:17:55
I'm sure there are 2 different keys there :3 One with round corners and one with sharp, or am I missing something ? :rolleyes:A yeah, it is called photoshop :D
Moose clearly edited the photos to show that we can't be save purchasing CCs anymore even if they show us pic of the bottom.
Clearly edited?
Well thats a damn good edit because they look like different keys to me :3
(Safe*)
Post by: AGmurdercore on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:20:33
Clearly i mean in the sense of this thread not because you can say just by looking at it for the first time, sorry if i was misunderstood :(I'm sure there are 2 different keys there :3 One with round corners and one with sharp, or am I missing something ? :rolleyes:A yeah, it is called photoshop :D
Moose clearly edited the photos to show that we can't be save purchasing CCs anymore even if they show us pic of the bottom.
Clearly edited?
Well thats a damn good edit because they look like different keys to me :3
(Safe*)
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:21:32
Well thats a damn good edit because they look like different keys to me :3I'm sure there are 2 different keys there :3 One with round corners and one with sharp, or am I missing something ? :rolleyes:A yeah, it is called photoshop :D
Moose clearly edited the photos to show that we can't be save purchasing CCs anymore even if they show us pic of the bottom.
thanks
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:22:42
this is why we should have stopped inflated clack prices earlier.
now the people faking them will also fake his sig in addition to photoshop
That's right. Now the site has an even bigger ****storm on its hands. These fake CCs are simply a manifestation of all the greed displayed by some individuals on this site.
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:23:33
this is why we should have stopped inflated clack prices earlier.
now the people faking them will also fake his sig in addition to photoshop
That's right. Now the site has an even bigger ****storm on its hands. These fake CCs are simply a manifestation of all the greed displayed by some individuals on this site.
Those individuals being the ones making the fakes...
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:23:35
this is why we should have stopped inflated clack prices earlier.
now the people faking them will also fake his sig in addition to photoshop
Didn't you just try to buy a Julysicle for $100, but couldn't because you couldn't afford it?
YOU DON"T UNDERSTAND THE LUST
Post by: demik on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:23:51
this is why we should have stopped inflated clack prices earlier.
now the people faking them will also fake his sig in addition to photoshop
Who is we? You've been here like a week.
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:24:51
this is why we should have stopped inflated clack prices earlier.
now the people faking them will also fake his sig in addition to photoshop
Didn't you just try to buy a Julysicle for $100, but couldn't because you couldn't afford it?
YOU DON"T UNDERSTAND THE LUST
On the contrary, I do.
I just don't try to act like I'm not the one trying to buy them at these prices.
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:25:25
this is why we should have stopped inflated clack prices earlier.
now the people faking them will also fake his sig in addition to photoshop
Who is we? You've been here like a week.
6 days k
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:25:40
this is why we should have stopped inflated clack prices earlier.
now the people faking them will also fake his sig in addition to photoshop
That's right. Now the site has an even bigger ****storm on its hands. These fake CCs are simply a manifestation of all the greed displayed by some individuals on this site.
Those individuals being the ones making the fakes...
...and the people who bought real CCs at retail prices and resold them for tremendous profits.
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:26:43
this is why we should have stopped inflated clack prices earlier.
now the people faking them will also fake his sig in addition to photoshop
That's right. Now the site has an even bigger ****storm on its hands. These fake CCs are simply a manifestation of all the greed displayed by some individuals on this site.
Those individuals being the ones making the fakes...
...and the people who bought real CCs at retail prices and resold them for tremendous profits.
That's basic economics, not greed.
Post by: demik on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:29:38
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:29:43
There was a geekhacker here that acquired one from Dan(without Dans knowledge) to clone. Forgot what his screen name was. Something with pork in it I think.
http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/clacks-t3186-120.html#p62101
(http://i.imgur.com/Meoh30X.jpg)
this is why we should have stopped inflated clack prices earlier.
now the people faking them will also fake his sig in addition to photoshop
That's right. Now the site has an even bigger ****storm on its hands. These fake CCs are simply a manifestation of all the greed displayed by some individuals on this site.
Those individuals being the ones making the fakes...
...and the people who bought real CCs at retail prices and resold them for tremendous profits.
That's basic economics, not greed.
Everyone understand economics, but the concept of greed seems to escape you. Yes, it is basic economics, but we're talking about reselling $20 items for $$$ to community members. That's greed.
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:31:21
DO NOT start arguing about Clack economics in here. Let's talk about fakes and artistic integrity, etc.
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:31:42
this is why we should have stopped inflated clack prices earlier.
now the people faking them will also fake his sig in addition to photoshop
That's right. Now the site has an even bigger ****storm on its hands. These fake CCs are simply a manifestation of all the greed displayed by some individuals on this site.
Those individuals being the ones making the fakes...
...and the people who bought real CCs at retail prices and resold them for tremendous profits.
That's basic economics, not greed.
yay for economics!
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:31:52
this is why we should have stopped inflated clack prices earlier.
now the people faking them will also fake his sig in addition to photoshop
That's right. Now the site has an even bigger ****storm on its hands. These fake CCs are simply a manifestation of all the greed displayed by some individuals on this site.
Those individuals being the ones making the fakes...
...and the people who bought real CCs at retail prices and resold them for tremendous profits.
That's basic economics, not greed.
One doesn't necessarily negate or not include the other.
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:34:10
I flipped my red trans over and wtf is this ****!?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1qXPfcD.jpg)
Another fake?
Damn!
Nah, just kidding.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YdCrzfT.jpg)
:rolleyes:
OMG
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:35:06
Everyone understand economics, but the concept of greed seems to escape you. Yes, it is basic economics, but we're talking about reselling $20 items for $$$ to community members. That's greed.
...'community members' get clacks at pretty low prices/retail more often than not becasue they are 'community members' and people help them out as much as they can... random people who post on a forum who are willing to pay silly amounts for a single cap get what they want at a price they are happy to pay...
what ever though, can't have an off topic chat even in a thread without an OP
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:39:16
what ever though, can't have an off topic chat even in a thread without an OP
We've just had this discussion many times before, in many threads, in many subfora, and people disagree fundamentally on it.
Please drop.
Post by: paicrai on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:39:59
can we limit the personal attacks here. If you guys have an issue, please work it out via PM.
love you
Post by: Fire Brand on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:46:14
Also the fakes are very well done, just a shame its on something such as this, well maybe they will stop this and make something of their own, hopefully we have a silver lining and the person/people making this create their own product :confused:
Post by: snoopy on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:48:32
Not sure if its been said before but this would be a great topic for the next podcast :)
Also the fakes are very well done, just a shame its on something such well maybe they will stop this and make something of their own, hopefully we have a silver lining and the person/people making this create their own product :confused:
Wouldn't buy anything from that person
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:51:57
Not sure if its been said before but this would be a great topic for the next podcast :)
Also the fakes are very well done, just a shame its on something such well maybe they will stop this and make something of their own, hopefully we have a silver lining and the person/people making this create their own product :confused:
Wouldn't buy anything from that person
Maybe you already have without knowing it?
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:53:52
As a buckling spring user, I am kind of indifferent to Cherry gear, but I would love to see new and interesting designs, also in Alps.
Why doesn't somebody make cool symbols, Refresh comes to mind, along with really nice decorative 3D arrows, just for a start.
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:55:04
The time and effort that went into making a counterfeit could have produced something new and interesting.
As a buckling spring user, I am kind of indifferent to Cherry gear, but I would love to see new and interesting designs, also in Alps.
Why doesn't somebody make cool symbols, Refresh comes to mind, along with really nice decorative 3D arrows, just for a start.
Because that takes talent ;)
Post by: snoopy on Mon, 02 December 2013, 16:55:29
Not sure if its been said before but this would be a great topic for the next podcast :)
Also the fakes are very well done, just a shame its on something such well maybe they will stop this and make something of their own, hopefully we have a silver lining and the person/people making this create their own product :confused:
Wouldn't buy anything from that person
Maybe you already have without knowing it?
I hope I haven't... But as my collection mainly consists only out of clacks, the chance is very low.
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 02 December 2013, 17:05:23
I m really sorry man, after seeing it on my Poker2, I have got to decide to keep it…Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/34amoIR.jpg)
I will send you a key for free for all the troubles I put you through.
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 17:31:28
Not sure if its been said before but this would be a great topic for the next podcast :)Maybe this person/these people already make things of there own?
Also the fakes are very well done, just a shame its on something such as this, well maybe they will stop this and make something of their own, hopefully we have a silver lining and the person/people making this create their own product :confused:
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 02 December 2013, 17:36:35
Y'all are buying these things for hundreds of dollars, and you don't expect someone to come along and fake them for easy cash?
That's just my 2 cents, I really hate to get involved.
Post by: LONGZILLA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 17:42:46
I mean, you guys saw this coming, right?
First page, alone there are 3 mentions of fakes being inevitable, so yes.
Post by: calavera on Mon, 02 December 2013, 17:49:19
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 02 December 2013, 17:50:28
So whats the way to tell them apart? The stem side will be different?
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1rxgx9/keyboard_science_fake_ccs_on_the_market/
Post by: IPT on Mon, 02 December 2013, 17:50:56
So whats the way to tell them apart? The stem side will be different?
well so far real CC's have a "CF" branding on the bottom of the clack.
Post by: Fire Brand on Mon, 02 December 2013, 17:53:31
Not sure if its been said before but this would be a great topic for the next podcast :)Maybe this person/these people already make things of there own?
Also the fakes are very well done, just a shame its on something such as this, well maybe they will stop this and make something of their own, hopefully we have a silver lining and the person/people making this create their own product :confused:
Maybe it would be interesting to know, if they make other none copy cat products.
Post by: IPT on Mon, 02 December 2013, 17:56:10
it has a FXE branding though...
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 02 December 2013, 17:58:16
now that im paranoid and at home, im looking at my clacks and i see my oktoberfest doesn't have the CF on the bottom
it has a FXE branding though...
It's legit, mate.
Post by: ComradeSniper on Mon, 02 December 2013, 17:59:33
now that im paranoid and at home, im looking at my clacks and i see my oktoberfest doesn't have the CF on the bottom
it has a FXE branding though...
From my personal experience, FXE is usually on MX clacks and CF is usually on Topre.
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 02 December 2013, 18:00:00
Post by: IPT on Mon, 02 December 2013, 18:00:33
now that im paranoid and at home, im looking at my clacks and i see my oktoberfest doesn't have the CF on the bottom
it has a FXE branding though...
From my personal experience, FXE is usually on MX clacks and CF is usually on Topre.
ah ok lol
the oktober is my only MX cap.
Post by: eyesmiles on Mon, 02 December 2013, 18:04:00
What I linked CC when I realized the"Ice Blue" I received was fake. What I pointed out was but a few as CC pointed out even more justfrom the images I showed him. I have even more respect for CC seeing how much he knows every nook and cranny of his art.
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 02 December 2013, 18:12:05
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 18:26:14
Wow, how many of these things are making the rounds? So far Bunny, MKUltra, and now you, eyesmiles, have all come forward as having received one.There's at least one more :p
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 02 December 2013, 18:29:04
what does fxe stand for?
http://www.fxesc.com/
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 02 December 2013, 18:34:19
what does fxe stand for?
http://www.fxesc.com/
What is that?
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 18:35:02
what does fxe stand for?
http://www.fxesc.com/
What is that?
Quote
Q: What's the difference between FXESC and Clack Factory? CFK?
A: FXESC is the name and hub for all of my artistic pursuits so the Clack Factory would be under and a part of that as a specific pursuit of my keyboard related work. As for CFK, it's Clack Factory Keys, or someones favorite fast food chain backwards. =P
From CC's FAQ. Something that everybody should read.
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 02 December 2013, 18:37:46
Post by: kmiller8 on Mon, 02 December 2013, 19:00:46
My$.02
kudos to the guy who copied it, as stated elsewhere he could have just as easily copied the bottom as he did the top. The fact he made it so obvious that they're fakes shows he did this just to rustle jimmies. And rustle them he did. If you guys should be mad at anyone it's yourselves, coveting these things like they're ****ing pieces of gold, sure they're nice, but not nice enough to give away hundreds of $$$ in stuff to trade for what amounts to a $20 piece of plastic. That's your own fault.
Also, I'm the one who made these. Just to prove a point OuO
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 02 December 2013, 19:01:21
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 19:03:27
I'm so sad I missed the drama ;_;When they first sell they are $20, and that is in a lotto. However their market price is much higher. Supply/demand etc.
My$.02
kudos to the guy who copied it, as stated elsewhere he could have just as easily copied the bottom as he did the top. The fact he made it so obvious that they're fakes shows he did this just to rustle jimmies. And rustle them he did. If you guys should be mad at anyone it's yourselves, coveting these things like they're ****ing pieces of gold, sure they're nice, but not nice enough to give away hundreds of $$$ in stuff to trade for what amounts to a $20 piece of plastic. That's your own fault.
Also, I'm the one who made these. Just to prove a point OuO
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 02 December 2013, 19:03:47
I confess, I made them.
Really?
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 02 December 2013, 19:06:19
I'm so sad I missed the drama ;_;When they first sell they are $20, and that is in a lotto. However their market price is much higher. Supply/demand etc.
My$.02
kudos to the guy who copied it, as stated elsewhere he could have just as easily copied the bottom as he did the top. The fact he made it so obvious that they're fakes shows he did this just to rustle jimmies. And rustle them he did. If you guys should be mad at anyone it's yourselves, coveting these things like they're ****ing pieces of gold, sure they're nice, but not nice enough to give away hundreds of $$$ in stuff to trade for what amounts to a $20 piece of plastic. That's your own fault.
Also, I'm the one who made these. Just to prove a point OuO
I think this argument right here is why they got made. Someone snapped because they got tired of hearing people use supply/demand as some kind of shield against any discussion of "maybe the price has crawled too high".
So what I'm really saying is I did it.
Fake CCs and real custom cables.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 02 December 2013, 19:07:56
I'm so sad I missed the drama ;_;When they first sell they are $20, and that is in a lotto. However their market price is much higher. Supply/demand etc.
My$.02
kudos to the guy who copied it, as stated elsewhere he could have just as easily copied the bottom as he did the top. The fact he made it so obvious that they're fakes shows he did this just to rustle jimmies. And rustle them he did. If you guys should be mad at anyone it's yourselves, coveting these things like they're ****ing pieces of gold, sure they're nice, but not nice enough to give away hundreds of $$$ in stuff to trade for what amounts to a $20 piece of plastic. That's your own fault.
Also, I'm the one who made these. Just to prove a point OuO
I think this argument right here is why they got made. Someone snapped because they got tired of hearing people use supply/demand as some kind of shield against any discussion of "maybe the price has crawled too high".
So what I'm really saying is I did it.
Fake CCs and real custom cables.
Are you making fake cables?? :eek:
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 02 December 2013, 19:08:37
I'm so sad I missed the drama ;_;When they first sell they are $20, and that is in a lotto. However their market price is much higher. Supply/demand etc.
My$.02
kudos to the guy who copied it, as stated elsewhere he could have just as easily copied the bottom as he did the top. The fact he made it so obvious that they're fakes shows he did this just to rustle jimmies. And rustle them he did. If you guys should be mad at anyone it's yourselves, coveting these things like they're ****ing pieces of gold, sure they're nice, but not nice enough to give away hundreds of $$$ in stuff to trade for what amounts to a $20 piece of plastic. That's your own fault.
Also, I'm the one who made these. Just to prove a point OuO
I think this argument right here is why they got made. Someone snapped because they got tired of hearing people use supply/demand as some kind of shield against any discussion of "maybe the price has crawled too high".
So what I'm really saying is I did it.
Fake CCs and real custom cables.
Are you making fake cables?? :eek:
Fake CCs and real custom cables.
Post by: missalaire on Mon, 02 December 2013, 19:10:56
Addiction free since 2012.
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 19:11:00
Was the price maybe too high? Yeah, but if someone is willing to pay then that's the price. Sucks.I'm so sad I missed the drama ;_;When they first sell they are $20, and that is in a lotto. However their market price is much higher. Supply/demand etc.
My$.02
kudos to the guy who copied it, as stated elsewhere he could have just as easily copied the bottom as he did the top. The fact he made it so obvious that they're fakes shows he did this just to rustle jimmies. And rustle them he did. If you guys should be mad at anyone it's yourselves, coveting these things like they're ****ing pieces of gold, sure they're nice, but not nice enough to give away hundreds of $$$ in stuff to trade for what amounts to a $20 piece of plastic. That's your own fault.
Also, I'm the one who made these. Just to prove a point OuO
I think this argument right here is why they got made. Someone snapped because they got tired of hearing people use supply/demand as some kind of shield against any discussion of "maybe the price has crawled too high".
So what I'm really saying is I did it.
Fake CCs and real custom cables.
Post by: kmiller8 on Mon, 02 December 2013, 19:17:43
Proud to be a member of the no-CC club.
Addiction free since 2012.
don't lie, you're addicted to great finds.
Post by: demik on Mon, 02 December 2013, 19:21:01
Post by: infiniti on Mon, 02 December 2013, 19:22:06
It's disheartening to read about this.
Bob is not happy...not happy at all.
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 19:23:13
somebody give me the tl;dr version so i know who to hate and who not to hateGet on skype
Post by: bueller on Mon, 02 December 2013, 19:23:21
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 19:23:50
It shouldn't be too hard to figure out who is selling these though right? Get all the people with fakes into an IRC channel and backtrack the sales until you hit a common thread, unless you already know who made them. In which case I say name and shame.One step ahead of you.
Post by: demik on Mon, 02 December 2013, 19:24:11
HAY GUIZ SPOTTED A FAEK
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51135.0
Post by: missalaire on Mon, 02 December 2013, 19:25:45
Proud to be a member of the no-CC club.
Addiction free since 2012.
don't lie, you're addicted to great finds.
You got me. I can't help it :<
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 02 December 2013, 19:25:50
somebody give me the tl;dr version so i know who to hate and who not to hate
Just continue being a general misanthrope.
Post by: demik on Mon, 02 December 2013, 19:26:22
somebody give me the tl;dr version so i know who to hate and who not to hate
Just continue being a general misanthrope.
dont be throwing your fancy words at me
Post by: pmh1410 on Mon, 02 December 2013, 19:31:51
i still continue to collection Skulls from Click Clack not cause CC was fake by other guy.
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 02 December 2013, 19:38:46
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 19:41:21
Someone name some names. I have this pitchfork here and my torch is just burning away! Let us descend upon the guilty, thus destroying him and forcing us to question who is the real monster! Morels, values, and judgment etc....Not yet. If you guys start crucifying the culprit we may never see our stuff again.
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 02 December 2013, 19:42:33
Fake CCs, real cables, pitchfork sharpening and torch lighting.
Post by: DrugER on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:00:55
Some time ago I bought some CC from Korean friend.
of course, I gave a fair price to buy
I did not even know that this was fake.
Some members who had deal with me, i pmed 'return to me all that fake CC'.
It also embarrassed me.
My friend said he got these in the past from geekhack.
i'll talk with him more. I'll have to ask more details.
and i'm a vendor, i do not have any reason to make fake cc and trade.
This problem is not intended at all.
SRY AGAIN...
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:03:08
First of all, so sorry cause problems.That is what I like to hear. Thank you for working with us Drug.
Some time ago I bought some CC from Korean friend.
of course, I gave a fair price to buy
I did not even know that this was fake.
Some members who had deal with me, i pmed 'return to me all that fake CC'.
It also embarrassed me.
My friend said he got these in the past from geekhack.
i'll talk with him more. I'll have to ask more details.
and i'm a vendor, i do not have any reason to make fake cc and trade.
This problem is not intended at all.
SRY AGAIN...
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:07:52
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:13:48
First of all, so sorry cause problems.
Some time ago I bought some CC from Korean friend.
of course, I gave a fair price to buy
I did not even know that this was fake.
Some members who had deal with me, i pmed 'return to me all that fake CC'.
It also embarrassed me.
My friend said he got these in the past from geekhack.
i'll talk with him more. I'll have to ask more details.
and i'm a vendor, i do not have any reason to make fake cc and trade.
This problem is not intended at all.
SRY AGAIN...
At least you know you made a mistake, and owned up to it. Not many people will do that .
Post by: demik on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:14:53
Well that's that, everybody put away your pitchforks..
but but.. i just bought these :(
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:21:41
Well that's that, everybody put away your pitchforks..
but but.. i just bought these :(
Do you have any idea how much of a pain in the butt it is to get a decent mob torch this time of year? Look at this, now it's just burning to waste.
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:24:32
Post by: demik on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:25:20
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:25:42
Pitchworks, at the ready!
Post by: Rendom on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:27:12
First of all, so sorry cause problems.
Some time ago I bought some CC from Korean friend.
of course, I gave a fair price to buy
I did not even know that this was fake.
Some members who had deal with me, i pmed 'return to me all that fake CC'.
It also embarrassed me.
My friend said he got these in the past from geekhack.
i'll talk with him more. I'll have to ask more details.
and i'm a vendor, i do not have any reason to make fake cc and trade.
This problem is not intended at all.
SRY AGAIN...
That's bull, I don't even want to know how many did you buy. You are sure to be SUSPICIOUS if you know there are LARGE quantity sold to you. You know of this.
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:28:28
First of all, so sorry cause problems.
Some time ago I bought some CC from Korean friend.
of course, I gave a fair price to buy
I did not even know that this was fake.
Some members who had deal with me, i pmed 'return to me all that fake CC'.
It also embarrassed me.
My friend said he got these in the past from geekhack.
i'll talk with him more. I'll have to ask more details.
and i'm a vendor, i do not have any reason to make fake cc and trade.
This problem is not intended at all.
SRY AGAIN...
Weren't you the least bit suspicious when you got that many translucent Clacks? Translucent Clacks are far from common, so I know I' be beyond wary if someone had that many of them for sale to me.
Post by: demik on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:29:55
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:32:00
i have a huge problem with this clack thing and it has nothing to do with clacks. it has to do with the misuse of any allusion to "supply/demand". idiots who think about economics for like a month and then never bother to try to understand it again will shout "SUPPLY AND DEMAND ARE LINEAR CONSTRAINTS ON PRICE!!" all effing day but they have no idea what they're talking about. micro markets don't really obey this when you look closely enough, and macro markets DEFINITELY DO NOT OBEY THIS. here's a thought experiment. WHERE THE HELL DOES DEMAND COME FROM? think about clacks. they are keycaps, yes, but they aren't really keycaps that have only function. they are like 99% form. so does the demand come from the number of keyboards in the market? no. does the demand have to do with the fact that there are no other keyboard decorations on the market? absolutely not.
it's exactly like people who don't realize that a) everything is a spring and b) hooke's law is a first order approximation of SOME SPAN of the behavior of every material. for every material, there exists a linearizable span along the stress/strain curve over which hooke's law applies. but this could be like "when there are 3000lbs sitting on it" as in the leaf spring/rear torsion beam in a C5 corvette, or the very edge of behavior of a ceramic composite, right before it hits yield and shatters into a million pieces.
GEEKHACK IS ABOUT UNDERSTANDING SCIENCE DAMNIT.
and clacks. it's obviously about clacks too, but you know, understanding them...
i guess.
shrug
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:32:47
anybody have a pitchfork I can borrow?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:36:05
can't wait for my first mob!
anybody have a pitchfork I can borrow?
Do you promise to trip and fall on it?
Post by: le_doosh on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:38:18
LOOK
i have a huge problem with this clack thing and it has nothing to do with clacks. it has to do with the misuse of any allusion to "supply/demand". idiots who think about economics for like a month and then never bother to try to understand it again will shout "SUPPLY AND DEMAND ARE LINEAR CONSTRAINTS ON PRICE!!" all effing day but they have no idea what they're talking about. micro markets don't really obey this when you look closely enough, and macro markets DEFINITELY DO NOT OBEY THIS. here's a thought experiment. WHERE THE HELL DOES DEMAND COME FROM? think about clacks. they are keycaps, yes, but they aren't really keycaps that have only function. they are like 99% form. so does the demand come from the number of keyboards in the market? no. does the demand have to do with the fact that there are no other keyboard decorations on the market? absolutely not.
it's exactly like people who don't realize that a) everything is a spring and b) hooke's law is a first order approximation of SOME SPAN of the behavior of every material. for every material, there exists a linearizable span along the stress/strain curve over which hooke's law applies. but this could be like "when there are 3000lbs sitting on it" as in the leaf spring/rear torsion beam in a C5 corvette, or the very edge of behavior of a ceramic composite, right before it hits yield and shatters into a million pieces.
GEEKHACK IS ABOUT UNDERSTANDING SCIENCE DAMNIT.
and clacks. it's obviously about clacks too, but you know, understanding them...
i guess.
shrug
Uh wat
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:38:42
LOOK
i have a huge problem with this clack thing and it has nothing to do with clacks. it has to do with the misuse of any allusion to "supply/demand". idiots who think about economics for like a month and then never bother to try to understand it again will shout "SUPPLY AND DEMAND ARE LINEAR CONSTRAINTS ON PRICE!!" all effing day but they have no idea what they're talking about. micro markets don't really obey this when you look closely enough, and macro markets DEFINITELY DO NOT OBEY THIS. here's a thought experiment. WHERE THE HELL DOES DEMAND COME FROM? think about clacks. they are keycaps, yes, but they aren't really keycaps that have only function. they are like 99% form. so does the demand come from the number of keyboards in the market? no. does the demand have to do with the fact that there are no other keyboard decorations on the market? absolutely not.
it's exactly like people who don't realize that a) everything is a spring and b) hooke's law is a first order approximation of SOME SPAN of the behavior of every material. for every material, there exists a linearizable span along the stress/strain curve over which hooke's law applies. but this could be like "when there are 3000lbs sitting on it" as in the leaf spring/rear torsion beam in a C5 corvette, or the very edge of behavior of a ceramic composite, right before it hits yield and shatters into a million pieces.
GEEKHACK IS ABOUT UNDERSTANDING SCIENCE DAMNIT.
and clacks. it's obviously about clacks too, but you know, understanding them...
i guess.
shrug
is this what people learn in econ? can't wait for college that sounds pretty fun
Post by: demik on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:44:19
CC gonna put in work
Post by: bueller on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:45:45
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:47:36
First of all, so sorry cause problems.
Some time ago I bought some CC from Korean friend.
of course, I gave a fair price to buy
I did not even know that this was fake.
Some members who had deal with me, i pmed 'return to me all that fake CC'.
It also embarrassed me.
My friend said he got these in the past from geekhack.
i'll talk with him more. I'll have to ask more details.
and i'm a vendor, i do not have any reason to make fake cc and trade.
This problem is not intended at all.
SRY AGAIN...
Just for full transparency, I didn't get a pm
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:49:25
First of all, so sorry cause problems.
Some time ago I bought some CC from Korean friend.
of course, I gave a fair price to buy
I did not even know that this was fake.
Some members who had deal with me, i pmed 'return to me all that fake CC'.
It also embarrassed me.
My friend said he got these in the past from geekhack.
i'll talk with him more. I'll have to ask more details.
and i'm a vendor, i do not have any reason to make fake cc and trade.
This problem is not intended at all.
SRY AGAIN...
Just for full transparency, I didn't get a pm
And the plot thickens
Post by: germy on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:49:56
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:51:26
Post by: demik on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:54:41
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-m0uArm3GYEE/T4mX2hGehuI/AAAAAAAAE8I/1Zn1L7z0cFg/s1600/TNT+We+Know+Drama.png)
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:55:58
LOOK
i have a huge problem with this clack thing and it has nothing to do with clacks. it has to do with the misuse of any allusion to "supply/demand". idiots who think about economics for like a month and then never bother to try to understand it again will shout "SUPPLY AND DEMAND ARE LINEAR CONSTRAINTS ON PRICE!!" all effing day but they have no idea what they're talking about. micro markets don't really obey this when you look closely enough, and macro markets DEFINITELY DO NOT OBEY THIS. here's a thought experiment. WHERE THE HELL DOES DEMAND COME FROM? think about clacks. they are keycaps, yes, but they aren't really keycaps that have only function. they are like 99% form. so does the demand come from the number of keyboards in the market? no. does the demand have to do with the fact that there are no other keyboard decorations on the market? absolutely not.
it's exactly like people who don't realize that a) everything is a spring and b) hooke's law is a first order approximation of SOME SPAN of the behavior of every material. for every material, there exists a linearizable span along the stress/strain curve over which hooke's law applies. but this could be like "when there are 3000lbs sitting on it" as in the leaf spring/rear torsion beam in a C5 corvette, or the very edge of behavior of a ceramic composite, right before it hits yield and shatters into a million pieces.
GEEKHACK IS ABOUT UNDERSTANDING SCIENCE DAMNIT.
and clacks. it's obviously about clacks too, but you know, understanding them...
i guess.
shrug
I think part of the problem was allowing CCs to be sold for unconstrained amounts. Naturally, the prices increased and eventually someone got the bright idea to make counterfits because people are selling them for $$$. None of this would have happened if GH prohibited the reselling of the items on GH for such amounts. Obviously, there isn't much that can be done now to have prevented this mess, but it's worth nothing. The whole drama behind CCs is really silly from an outside perspective and it's a shame that it's plagued this forum to this extent. GH is supposed to be about innovation, sharing ideas/knowledge...not reselling $20 items for $$$. Hopefully the admin staff will initiate a change on the forum for the better.
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:00:23
somebody that's good with PS, delete the TNT and add GH instead!Show Image(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-m0uArm3GYEE/T4mX2hGehuI/AAAAAAAAE8I/1Zn1L7z0cFg/s1600/TNT+We+Know+Drama.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/ItMCzRo.png)
Post by: Martyr on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:23:10
Post by: demik on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:24:00
somebody that's good with PS, delete the TNT and add GH instead!Show Image(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-m0uArm3GYEE/T4mX2hGehuI/AAAAAAAAE8I/1Zn1L7z0cFg/s1600/TNT+We+Know+Drama.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ItMCzRo.png)
there we go
Post by: bueller on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:36:17
First of all, so sorry cause problems.
Some time ago I bought some CC from Korean friend.
of course, I gave a fair price to buy
I did not even know that this was fake.
Some members who had deal with me, i pmed 'return to me all that fake CC'.
It also embarrassed me.
My friend said he got these in the past from geekhack.
i'll talk with him more. I'll have to ask more details.
and i'm a vendor, i do not have any reason to make fake cc and trade.
This problem is not intended at all.
SRY AGAIN...
Weren't you the least bit suspicious when you got that many translucent Clacks? Translucent Clacks are far from common, so I know I' be beyond wary if someone had that many of them for sale to me.
The thing that I find a little suspect is that in the trade thread there is no mention of him having more than the 2 pictured for trade. So he listed 2 items for trade and then traded those 2 items many times. I don't know about everyone else but that doesn't sit right with me.
Post by: kenmai9 on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:39:33
First of all, so sorry cause problems.
Some time ago I bought some CC from Korean friend.
of course, I gave a fair price to buy
I did not even know that this was fake.
Some members who had deal with me, i pmed 'return to me all that fake CC'.
It also embarrassed me.
My friend said he got these in the past from geekhack.
i'll talk with him more. I'll have to ask more details.
and i'm a vendor, i do not have any reason to make fake cc and trade.
This problem is not intended at all.
SRY AGAIN...
Weren't you the least bit suspicious when you got that many translucent Clacks? Translucent Clacks are far from common, so I know I' be beyond wary if someone had that many of them for sale to me.
The thing that I find a little suspect is that in the trade thread there is no mention of him having more than the 2 pictured for trade. So he listed 2 items for trade and then traded those 2 items many times. I don't know about everyone else but that doesn't sit right with me.
Innocent until proven guilty?
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:40:02
Some time ago I bought some CC from Korean friend.
of course, I gave a fair price to buy
and i'm a vendor, i do not have any reason to make fake cc and trade.
Considering you were trading them away for pretty cheap items in comparison, what was your "fair price to buy"
Onto the fact that you are a vendor, what difference does that make? Plenty of people with power become corrupt over small things
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:43:33
First of all, so sorry cause problems.
Some time ago I bought some CC from Korean friend.
of course, I gave a fair price to buy
I did not even know that this was fake.
Some members who had deal with me, i pmed 'return to me all that fake CC'.
It also embarrassed me.
My friend said he got these in the past from geekhack.
i'll talk with him more. I'll have to ask more details.
and i'm a vendor, i do not have any reason to make fake cc and trade.
This problem is not intended at all.
SRY AGAIN...
Weren't you the least bit suspicious when you got that many translucent Clacks? Translucent Clacks are far from common, so I know I' be beyond wary if someone had that many of them for sale to me.
The thing that I find a little suspect is that in the trade thread there is no mention of him having more than the 2 pictured for trade. So he listed 2 items for trade and then traded those 2 items many times. I don't know about everyone else but that doesn't sit right with me.
Innocent until proven guilty?
I think we're trying to see if he's guilty.
Post by: kmiller8 on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:47:20
Innocent until proven guilty?
hahahahahah this is the internet, there is no such thing as innocence. :))
Post by: IPT on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:48:18
Post by: kmiller8 on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:48:43
if that's the case, should we start to worry about that GB...?
just be sure to see the bottom of the caps first.
Post by: bueller on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:48:55
First of all, so sorry cause problems.
Some time ago I bought some CC from Korean friend.
of course, I gave a fair price to buy
I did not even know that this was fake.
Some members who had deal with me, i pmed 'return to me all that fake CC'.
It also embarrassed me.
My friend said he got these in the past from geekhack.
i'll talk with him more. I'll have to ask more details.
and i'm a vendor, i do not have any reason to make fake cc and trade.
This problem is not intended at all.
SRY AGAIN...
Weren't you the least bit suspicious when you got that many translucent Clacks? Translucent Clacks are far from common, so I know I' be beyond wary if someone had that many of them for sale to me.
The thing that I find a little suspect is that in the trade thread there is no mention of him having more than the 2 pictured for trade. So he listed 2 items for trade and then traded those 2 items many times. I don't know about everyone else but that doesn't sit right with me.
Innocent until proven guilty?
Regardless of whether he knew they were fake or not it's still not right. These aren't mass produced items, he's posting pics of one thing and sending people another.
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:52:56
The thing that I find a little suspect is that in the trade thread there is no mention of him having more than the 2 pictured for trade. So he listed 2 items for trade and then traded those 2 items many times. I don't know about everyone else but that doesn't sit right with me.
That doesn't sit right with me either since it indicates that you suspected the legitimacy of the items, but traded anyways.
Innocent until proven guilty?
I'm still giving time for responses before I pass my own judgement.
That said, you have to admit that it can easily come across as shady and that those actions do seem to indicate that they knew something was probably off. Think of it this way, if a well known, collected, and desirable artist produced a series of lithographs or giclées where only 5 of them were done and someone managed to get 5 of them years after release in a matter of weeks or from one person, wouldn't that be suspicious? And if you saw someone selling 5, wouldn't you question the authenticity? And furthermore, if you decided to sell or trade them, but only listed one of them for sale or trade, wouldn't that further reinforce the notion that you knew, or at the very least, suspected the integrity of the work?
I'm not casting stones because there could very well be more underlying this and there could be actual ignorance that caused this issue, but you do have to acknowledge how things could be seen another way.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:53:47
if that's the case, should we start to worry about that DSA DOLCH REPLICA GB...?
I've been concerned about it for a while now.
Post by: demik on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:57:49
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:59:45
None of this would have happened if demik was a mod!
We all know how you feel about LZ.
Post by: demik on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:00:40
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:04:27
Post by: IPT on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:06:07
if that's the case, should we start to worry about that DSA DOLCH REPLICA GB...?
I've been concerned about it for a while now.
its getting to be im just gonna only participate in GBs by Bunny lol...
Post by: bueller on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:07:42
if that's the case, should we start to worry about that DSA DOLCH REPLICA GB...?
I've been concerned about it for a while now.
Glad i'm not in that one, gift payments over paypal with no invoice over 5 months ago :-\
Post by: IPT on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:09:58
if that's the case, should we start to worry about that DSA DOLCH REPLICA GB...?
I've been concerned about it for a while now.
Glad i'm not in that one, gift payments over paypal with no invoice over 5 months ago :-\
yeah...at least when i lost $100 this weekend in Atlantic City, i had "fun" losing it lol
Post by: DrugER on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:16:40
and I sent PM CC VENDOR too.
"At first, sry about this trouble.
i'm a big fan of your arts.
I bought my korean friend that fake CC.(But i didn't know it is fake, and i didn't know how to distinguish.)
I sent pm all trade ppl "plz return to me" there are about 6~7ea FAKE CC.
I promise when i get back all. i'll send to you all.
plz let me know your address and shipping info.
I respect your rights.Really sorry to bother you and your arts.
i knew my ignorance, regret my wrongdoings
THX 4 YOUR PM
AND SORRY AGAIN."
i do not want to affect team redline's works. (We always try to work hard and sincere.)
i promise
i had trade 6~7 CC(2kind of cc)
Of course, I believed him(my korean friend) and did not even suspect. IT'S MY FAULT. i just surprised !!! "Wow translucent CC"
Plz return to me or send to CC VENDOR. If you return to me, I'll send all fake CC to 'CC VENDOR MODERATO'. and I will prevent the emergence of a fake.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:18:46
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:19:00
And will you return items you traded for them??Yeah he said he would.
Post by: kenmai9 on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:19:08
i sent PM that all had trade ppl
and I sent PM CC VENDOR too.
"At first, sry about this trouble.
i'm a big fan of your arts.
I bought my korean friend that fake CC.(But i didn't know it is fake, and i didn't know how to distinguish.)
I sent pm all trade ppl "plz return to me" there are about 6~7ea FAKE CC.
I promise when i get back all. i'll send to you all.
plz let me know your address and shipping info.
I respect your rights.Really sorry to bother you and your arts.
i knew my ignorance, regret my wrongdoings
THX 4 YOUR PM
AND SORRY AGAIN."
i do not want to affect team redline's works. (We always try to work hard and sincere.)
i promise
i had trade 6~7 CC(2kind of cc)
Of course, I believed him(my korean friend) and did not even suspect. IT'S MY FAULT. i just surprised !!! "Wow translucent CC"
Plz return to me or send to CC VENDOR. If you return to me, I'll send all fake CC to 'CC VENDOR MODERATO'. and I will prevent the emergence of a fake.
Thanks jackass
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:21:10
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:21:53
Seems kind of silly to ship them back to Korea in order to get the trades/money back instead of shipping them directly to CC, especially since several of them are already stateside.Yeah I'm just gonna ship to CC
Post by: DrugER on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:23:26
And will you return items you traded for them??
of course...i'll return traded item.when i get.
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:24:06
The thing that I find a little suspect is that in the trade thread there is no mention of him having more than the 2 pictured for trade. So he listed 2 items for trade and then traded those 2 items many times. I don't know about everyone else but that doesn't sit right with me.
That doesn't sit right with me either since it indicates that you suspected the legitimacy of the items, but traded anyways.Innocent until proven guilty?
I'm still giving time for responses before I pass my own judgement.
That said, you have to admit that it can easily come across as shady and that those actions do seem to indicate that they knew something was probably off. Think of it this way, if a well known, collected, and desirable artist produced a series of lithographs or giclées where only 5 of them were done and someone managed to get 5 of them years after release in a matter of weeks or from one person, wouldn't that be suspicious? And if you saw someone selling 5, wouldn't you question the authenticity? And furthermore, if you decided to sell or trade them, but only listed one of them for sale or trade, wouldn't that further reinforce the notion that you knew, or at the very least, suspected the integrity of the work?
I'm not casting stones because there could very well be more underlying this and there could be actual ignorance that caused this issue, but you do have to acknowledge how things could be seen another way.
I don't think he knew that drugger had more than 2 fake cc's
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:24:47
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51135.msg1142369#msg1142369
CC gonna put in work
Good for him! :thumb:
Damn counterfeits..
Post by: eth0s on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:25:41
First of all, so sorry cause problems.
Some time ago I bought some CC from Korean friend.
of course, I gave a fair price to buy
I did not even know that this was fake.
Some members who had deal with me, i pmed 'return to me all that fake CC'.
It also embarrassed me.
My friend said he got these in the past from geekhack.
i'll talk with him more. I'll have to ask more details.
and i'm a vendor, i do not have any reason to make fake cc and trade.
This problem is not intended at all.
SRY AGAIN...
Well mkawa closed drugER's FS/FT thread. So we have to discuss it here.
First, I guess you guys have pretty good instincts, all who said they were fake, i.e., TJ and demik.
Second, drugER admitted he had fakes for sale or trade, but claims he was duped himself. I am not inclined to believe him now. Reputation is a weird thing, it takes a lot of time and effort to build a good one, but you can destroy your reputation in an instant. As a gesture of good faith, I would now like to see drugER tell us who his source of fake Clacks is, so we can all avoid that person, or persons. Also it would be good for CC to know the indentity of the counterfeiter as well, so he can take whatever legal action that he and his attorney(s) feel is warranted.
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:29:03
I have a pretty good idea as far as who it is.First of all, so sorry cause problems.
Some time ago I bought some CC from Korean friend.
of course, I gave a fair price to buy
I did not even know that this was fake.
Some members who had deal with me, i pmed 'return to me all that fake CC'.
It also embarrassed me.
My friend said he got these in the past from geekhack.
i'll talk with him more. I'll have to ask more details.
and i'm a vendor, i do not have any reason to make fake cc and trade.
This problem is not intended at all.
SRY AGAIN...
Well mkawa closed drugER's FS/FT thread. So we have to discuss it here.
First, I guess you guys have pretty good instincts, all who said they were fake, i.e., TJ and demik.
Second, drugER admitted he had fakes for sale or trade, but claims he was duped himself. I am not inclined to believe him now. Reputation is a weird thing, it takes a lot of time and effort to build a good one, but you can destroy your reputation in an instant. As a gesture of good faith, I would now like to see drugER tell us who his source of fake Clacks is, so we can all avoid that person, or persons. Also it would be good for CC to know the indentity of the counterfeiter as well, so he can take whatever legal action that he and his attorney(s) feel is warranted.
Post by: demik on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:34:22
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:37:16
I have a pretty good idea as far as who it is.First of all, so sorry cause problems.
Some time ago I bought some CC from Korean friend.
of course, I gave a fair price to buy
I did not even know that this was fake.
Some members who had deal with me, i pmed 'return to me all that fake CC'.
It also embarrassed me.
My friend said he got these in the past from geekhack.
i'll talk with him more. I'll have to ask more details.
and i'm a vendor, i do not have any reason to make fake cc and trade.
This problem is not intended at all.
SRY AGAIN...
Well mkawa closed drugER's FS/FT thread. So we have to discuss it here.
First, I guess you guys have pretty good instincts, all who said they were fake, i.e., TJ and demik.
Second, drugER admitted he had fakes for sale or trade, but claims he was duped himself. I am not inclined to believe him now. Reputation is a weird thing, it takes a lot of time and effort to build a good one, but you can destroy your reputation in an instant. As a gesture of good faith, I would now like to see drugER tell us who his source of fake Clacks is, so we can all avoid that person, or persons. Also it would be good for CC to know the indentity of the counterfeiter as well, so he can take whatever legal action that he and his attorney(s) feel is warranted.
Drop it likes its hot :eek:
Post by: demik on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:38:05
I have a pretty good idea as far as who it is.First of all, so sorry cause problems.
Some time ago I bought some CC from Korean friend.
of course, I gave a fair price to buy
I did not even know that this was fake.
Some members who had deal with me, i pmed 'return to me all that fake CC'.
It also embarrassed me.
My friend said he got these in the past from geekhack.
i'll talk with him more. I'll have to ask more details.
and i'm a vendor, i do not have any reason to make fake cc and trade.
This problem is not intended at all.
SRY AGAIN...
Well mkawa closed drugER's FS/FT thread. So we have to discuss it here.
First, I guess you guys have pretty good instincts, all who said they were fake, i.e., TJ and demik.
Second, drugER admitted he had fakes for sale or trade, but claims he was duped himself. I am not inclined to believe him now. Reputation is a weird thing, it takes a lot of time and effort to build a good one, but you can destroy your reputation in an instant. As a gesture of good faith, I would now like to see drugER tell us who his source of fake Clacks is, so we can all avoid that person, or persons. Also it would be good for CC to know the indentity of the counterfeiter as well, so he can take whatever legal action that he and his attorney(s) feel is warranted.
Drop it likes its hot :eek:
You'll probably need some hazmat suits
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:40:06
Post by: Rendom on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:40:12
i sent PM that all had trade ppl
and I sent PM CC VENDOR too.
"At first, sry about this trouble.
i'm a big fan of your arts.
I bought my korean friend that fake CC.(But i didn't know it is fake, and i didn't know how to distinguish.)
I sent pm all trade ppl "plz return to me" there are about 6~7ea FAKE CC.
I promise when i get back all. i'll send to you all.
plz let me know your address and shipping info.
I respect your rights.Really sorry to bother you and your arts.
i knew my ignorance, regret my wrongdoings
THX 4 YOUR PM
AND SORRY AGAIN."
i do not want to affect team redline's works. (We always try to work hard and sincere.)
i promise
i had trade 6~7 CC(2kind of cc)
Of course, I believed him(my korean friend) and did not even suspect. IT'S MY FAULT. i just surprised !!! "Wow translucent CC"
Plz return to me or send to CC VENDOR. If you return to me, I'll send all fake CC to 'CC VENDOR MODERATO'. and I will prevent the emergence of a fake.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:41:08
I have a pretty good idea as far as who it is.First of all, so sorry cause problems.
Some time ago I bought some CC from Korean friend.
of course, I gave a fair price to buy
I did not even know that this was fake.
Some members who had deal with me, i pmed 'return to me all that fake CC'.
It also embarrassed me.
My friend said he got these in the past from geekhack.
i'll talk with him more. I'll have to ask more details.
and i'm a vendor, i do not have any reason to make fake cc and trade.
This problem is not intended at all.
SRY AGAIN...
Well mkawa closed drugER's FS/FT thread. So we have to discuss it here.
First, I guess you guys have pretty good instincts, all who said they were fake, i.e., TJ and demik.
Second, drugER admitted he had fakes for sale or trade, but claims he was duped himself. I am not inclined to believe him now. Reputation is a weird thing, it takes a lot of time and effort to build a good one, but you can destroy your reputation in an instant. As a gesture of good faith, I would now like to see drugER tell us who his source of fake Clacks is, so we can all avoid that person, or persons. Also it would be good for CC to know the indentity of the counterfeiter as well, so he can take whatever legal action that he and his attorney(s) feel is warranted.
Drop it likes its hot :eek:
You'll probably need some hazmat suits
well it'll probably get hushed up then, gag orders and all that jazz
Post by: leesofi on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:45:50
http://l.otd.kr/EY90QR45
'cponline' is chinese and he said "In fact these keycaps are my friends gave me".
shame of asian. sad
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:47:14
So who made fake?Look at the colors of those solid clacks he posted. Clearly fake.
http://l.otd.kr/EY90QR45
'cponline' is chinese and he said "In fact these keycaps are my friends gave me".
shame of asian. sad
Post by: demik on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:48:16
Post by: kmiller8 on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:52:02
Post by: Binge on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:52:20
Post by: demik on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:53:11
I got my fake clack from a good friend, I think it was demik.
Well worth the half pound of chicken tenders
Post by: kmiller8 on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:53:42
I got my fake clack from a good friend, I think it was demik.
Well worth the half pound of chicken tenders
imma hook u up with pics tomorrow, promise.
Post by: demik on Mon, 02 December 2013, 22:54:48
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 02 December 2013, 23:01:26
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YiwxQKy.gif)
(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 02 December 2013, 23:04:12
So who made fake?
http://l.otd.kr/EY90QR45
'cponline' is chinese and he said "In fact these keycaps are my friends gave me".
shame of asian. sad
Nah, not shame of Asian. Shame of shifty people looking to scam others. That can happen anywhere. For example, while China is known for flaunting copyright and selling fakes (and sometimes legitimate fakes), the most famous art forgers/forgeries have come out Europe and the US. Wherever there's big money to be made, you can expect scammers to show up. And, like others, I'm surprised it took this long. It's sad, but it was expected.
Hopefully CC can get the person making them shut down so we're not flooded with forgeries and people making money off of his work..not that that isn't happening already in other ways.
Look at the colors of those solid clacks he posted. Clearly fake.
Yeah, they definitely have a look to them that CC's works don't have. Now we know some other colors to look out for. That's not to say there aren't others.
See. Everybody has a friend. But nobody is naming names.
(http://i.imgur.com/12Gf8F5.gif)
Post by: eth0s on Mon, 02 December 2013, 23:07:43
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 23:09:17
Well, if CC will hire me, I volunteer myself to go to S. Korea and investigate this counterfeit Clack ring. I will go undercover. Deep undercover. Hmm, but I need a dream team to back me up. I would also like to take demik for his tough street smarts, and kmiller8 for his general bad attitude and cynicism. He can be bad cop, and I will be good cop. And demik will be bad cop as well, i guess, or grumpy cop. So bad cop, grumpy cop, good cop. Now that I'm thinking about it, we need Sifo too, but he has to learn to speak Korean, quickly. I am a master of disguise, so I can blend in anywhere, like Hitman in that first game. Big white bald guy, and nobody will see me in my Chinese pajamas. I will get to the bottom of this. Oh and me and sifo can share a hotel room, to cut down on costs for CC. :thumb: We just need money for travel expense and a small per diem for meals. And demik's bar tab too, probably.I'm sure zenuty would house you, feed you some of his delicious food, and aide you on your journey.;
Post by: kenmai9 on Mon, 02 December 2013, 23:10:07
Well, if CC will hire me, I volunteer myself to go to S. Korea and investigate this counterfeit Clack ring. I will go undercover. Deep undercover. Hmm, but I need a dream team to back me up. I would also like to take demik for his tough street smarts, and kmiller8 for his general bad attitude and cynicism. He can be bad cop, and I will be good cop. And demik will be bad cop as well, i guess, or grumpy cop. So bad cop, grumpy cop, good cop. Now that I'm thinking about it, we need Sifo too, but he has to learn to speak Korean, quickly. I am a master of disguise, so I can blend in anywhere, like Hitman in that first game. Big white bald guy, and nobody will see me in my Chinese pajamas. I will get to the bottom of this. Oh and me and sifo can share a hotel room, to cut down on costs for CC. :thumb: We just need money for travel expense and a small per diem for meals. And demik's bar tab too, probably.Can you at least enter someone's dream to make this relevant:
(http://i.imgur.com/AWbxkMj.jpg)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 02 December 2013, 23:11:24
Well, if CC will hire me, I volunteer myself to go to S. Korea and investigate this counterfeit Clack ring. I will go undercover. Deep undercover. Hmm, but I need a dream team to back me up. I would also like to take demik for his tough street smarts, and kmiller8 for his general bad attitude and cynicism. He can be bad cop, and I will be good cop. And demik will be bad cop as well, i guess, or grumpy cop. So bad cop, grumpy cop, good cop. Now that I'm thinking about it, we need Sifo too, but he has to learn to speak Korean, quickly. I am a master of disguise, so I can blend in anywhere, like Hitman in that first game. Big white bald guy, and nobody will see me in my Chinese pajamas. I will get to the bottom of this. Oh and me and sifo can share a hotel room, to cut down on costs for CC. :thumb: We just need money for travel expense and a small per diem for meals. And demik's bar tab too, probably.
I don't think cop demik would work very well. He'd keep on pulling himself over and giving himself BS tickets.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 02 December 2013, 23:11:24
Well, if CC will hire me, I volunteer myself to go to S. Korea and investigate this counterfeit Clack ring. I will go undercover. Deep undercover. Hmm, but I need a dream team to back me up. I would also like to take demik for his tough street smarts, and kmiller8 for his general bad attitude and cynicism. He can be bad cop, and I will be good cop. And demik will be bad cop as well, i guess, or grumpy cop. So bad cop, grumpy cop, good cop. Now that I'm thinking about it, we need Sifo too, but he has to learn to speak Korean, quickly. I am a master of disguise, so I can blend in anywhere, like Hitman in that first game. Big white bald guy, and nobody will see me in my Chinese pajamas. I will get to the bottom of this. Oh and me and sifo can share a hotel room, to cut down on costs for CC. :thumb: We just need money for travel expense and a small per diem for meals. And demik's bar tab too, probably.
Take me! Take me!
I'll randomly strike up conversations with random people so everyone stays confused.
Post by: meiosis on Mon, 02 December 2013, 23:11:56
I got my fake clack from a good friend, I think it was demik.
Yeah demik was offering me quad-color CC's but he wanted to be paid in pixie stix
Post by: kmiller8 on Mon, 02 December 2013, 23:12:17
Well, if CC will hire me, I volunteer myself to go to S. Korea and investigate this counterfeit Clack ring. I will go undercover. Deep undercover. Hmm, but I need a dream team to back me up. I would also like to take demik for his tough street smarts, and kmiller8 for his general bad attitude and cynicism. He can be bad cop, and I will be good cop. And demik will be bad cop as well, i guess, or grumpy cop. So bad cop, grumpy cop, good cop. Now that I'm thinking about it, we need Sifo too, but he has to learn to speak Korean, quickly. I am a master of disguise, so I can blend in anywhere, like Hitman in that first game. Big white bald guy, and nobody will see me in my Chinese pajamas. I will get to the bottom of this. Oh and me and sifo can share a hotel room, to cut down on costs for CC. :thumb: We just need money for travel expense and a small per diem for meals. And demik's bar tab too, probably.
Sifo already knows Korean, and we're waiting for you at the airport.
Post by: IPT on Mon, 02 December 2013, 23:12:21
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 02 December 2013, 23:13:03
I got my fake clack from a good friend, I think it was demik.
Yeah demik was offering me quad-color CC's but he wanted to be paid in pixie stix
Probably off snorting some in the bathroom right now.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 02 December 2013, 23:13:49
but what if the origin of the fake clacks are china, are you going to track over to China to catch them too?
what if they came from KANADA!!
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 02 December 2013, 23:14:48
Well, if CC will hire me, I volunteer myself to go to S. Korea and investigate this counterfeit Clack ring. I will go undercover. Deep undercover. Hmm, but I need a dream team to back me up. I would also like to take demik for his tough street smarts, and kmiller8 for his general bad attitude and cynicism. He can be bad cop, and I will be good cop. And demik will be bad cop as well, i guess, or grumpy cop. So bad cop, grumpy cop, good cop. Now that I'm thinking about it, we need Sifo too, but he has to learn to speak Korean, quickly. I am a master of disguise, so I can blend in anywhere, like Hitman in that first game. Big white bald guy, and nobody will see me in my Chinese pajamas. I will get to the bottom of this. Oh and me and sifo can share a hotel room, to cut down on costs for CC. :thumb: We just need money for travel expense and a small per diem for meals. And demik's bar tab too, probably.
I would like to be the Korean translator of the team ; ) I can also be tour guide ㅋㅋㅋ. I can do both ways. I already serve as part time translator for Zenuty at times huehue.
Post by: meiosis on Mon, 02 December 2013, 23:23:23
Well, if CC will hire me, I volunteer myself to go to S. Korea and investigate this counterfeit Clack ring. I will go undercover. Deep undercover. Hmm, but I need a dream team to back me up. I would also like to take demik for his tough street smarts, and kmiller8 for his general bad attitude and cynicism. He can be bad cop, and I will be good cop. And demik will be bad cop as well, i guess, or grumpy cop. So bad cop, grumpy cop, good cop. Now that I'm thinking about it, we need Sifo too, but he has to learn to speak Korean, quickly. I am a master of disguise, so I can blend in anywhere, like Hitman in that first game. Big white bald guy, and nobody will see me in my Chinese pajamas. I will get to the bottom of this. Oh and me and sifo can share a hotel room, to cut down on costs for CC. :thumb: We just need money for travel expense and a small per diem for meals. And demik's bar tab too, probably.
I would like to be the Korean translator of the team ; ) I can also be tour guide ㅋㅋㅋ. I can do both ways. I already serve as part time translator for Zenuty at times huehue.
I call dibs on all the hot/cute girls we see on the trip.
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 02 December 2013, 23:23:37
I am too happy to be good, bad or grumpy cop.
But I can offer to collect all the fake CCs (and equivalent genuine ones for comparison) and keep them safe here and never sell or give them to anyone else.
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 02 December 2013, 23:25:23
Well, if CC will hire me, I volunteer myself to go to S. Korea and investigate this counterfeit Clack ring. I will go undercover. Deep undercover. Hmm, but I need a dream team to back me up. I would also like to take demik for his tough street smarts, and kmiller8 for his general bad attitude and cynicism. He can be bad cop, and I will be good cop. And demik will be bad cop as well, i guess, or grumpy cop. So bad cop, grumpy cop, good cop. Now that I'm thinking about it, we need Sifo too, but he has to learn to speak Korean, quickly. I am a master of disguise, so I can blend in anywhere, like Hitman in that first game. Big white bald guy, and nobody will see me in my Chinese pajamas. I will get to the bottom of this. Oh and me and sifo can share a hotel room, to cut down on costs for CC. :thumb: We just need money for travel expense and a small per diem for meals. And demik's bar tab too, probably.
I would like to be the Korean translator of the team ; ) I can also be tour guide ㅋㅋㅋ. I can do both ways. I already serve as part time translator for Zenuty at times huehue.
I call dibs on all the hot/cute girls we see on the trip.
I can put in some good words for you too ;) ;) ;)
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 02 December 2013, 23:27:27
but what if the origin of the fake clacks are china, are you going to track over to China to catch them too?If tinnie can find the kishsavers, he can find these bastards!
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 02 December 2013, 23:38:00
Post by: eth0s on Mon, 02 December 2013, 23:51:09
I cannot speak Korean.
I am too happy to be good, bad or grumpy cop.
But I can offer to collect all the fake CCs (and equivalent genuine ones for comparison) and keep them safe here and never sell or give them to anyone else.
Umm, sorry no. Absolutely under no circumstances will anyone be allowed to take home any fake Clacks. I omitted mentioning that kmiller8's most important job will be to destroy all confiscated counterfeit merchandise. (he has the technique, the experience, and the technology.) So absolutely no fake Clacks will be allowed to survive. No member of the team will be allowed to keep any fakes as souvenirs, mementos or keepsakes. That is the one absolute rule. Breaking this rule will result in termination, with extreme prejudice.
Well, I have so many volunteers, it will be a really great trip! We just need our funding to come through.
Until then, I have drawn up a mission briefing: most of you will be posing as a group of extremely rich, but rather stupid American keyboard enthusiasts looking to buy exotic and illegal keycaps. I will be posing as an international jet-setter, bon vivant and racanteur, who is also a super-spy and and assassin. (IRL, I look like Jason Statham, but a bit more handsome. Also, Jason is a bit older than me.) The main group will distract our prey, while I infiltrate their lair. I will be captured, of course, and most likely seduced by a beautiful woman, and then later tortured, but just before I am about to die, demik will burst in and rescue me. We will defeat the bad guys, confiscate the Clacks, and kmiller8 will destroy them in an environmentally friendly way. TJ will bring his pitchforks and torches, organize our main group into an angry mob, and set upon the counterfeiters and slap them silly. Teaching them, beyond doubt, that crime doesn't pay.
Post by: iri on Mon, 02 December 2013, 23:51:31
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 02 December 2013, 23:55:38
hi someone called ?
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I cannot speak Korean.
I am too happy to be good, bad or grumpy cop.
But I can offer to collect all the fake CCs (and equivalent genuine ones for comparison) and keep them safe here and never sell or give them to anyone else.
Umm, sorry no. Absolutely under no circumstances will anyone be allowed to take home any fake Clacks. I omitted mentioning that kmiller8's most important job will be to destroy all confiscated counterfeit merchandise. (he has the technique, the experience, and the technology.) So absolutely no fake Clacks will be allowed to survive. No member of the team will be allowed to keep any fakes as souvenirs, mementos or keepsakes. That is the one absolute rule. Breaking this rule will result in termination, with extreme prejudice.
Well, I have so many volunteers, it will be a really great trip! We just need our funding to come through.
Until then, I have drawn up a mission briefing: most of you will be posing as a group of extremely rich, but rather stupid American keyboard enthusiasts looking to buy exotic and illegal keycaps. I will be posing as an international jet-setter, bon vivant and racanteur, who is also a super-spy and and assassin. (IRL, I look like Jason Statham, but a bit more handsome. Also, Jason is a bit older than me.) The main group will distract our prey, while I infiltrate their lair. I will be captured, of course, and most likely seduced by a beautiful woman, and then later tortured, but just before I am about to die, demik will burst in and rescue me. We will defeat the bad guys, confiscate the Clacks, and kmiller8 will destroy them in an environmentally friendly way. TJ will bring his pitchforks and torches, organize our main group into an angry mob, and set upon the counterfeiters and slap them silly. Teaching them, beyond doubt, that crime doesn't pay.
:)) must see
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 02 December 2013, 23:57:26
Well, if CC will hire me, I volunteer myself to go to S. Korea and investigate this counterfeit Clack ring. I will go undercover. Deep undercover. Hmm, but I need a dream team to back me up. I would also like to take demik for his tough street smarts, and kmiller8 for his general bad attitude and cynicism. He can be bad cop, and I will be good cop. And demik will be bad cop as well, i guess, or grumpy cop. So bad cop, grumpy cop, good cop. Now that I'm thinking about it, we need Sifo too, but he has to learn to speak Korean, quickly. I am a master of disguise, so I can blend in anywhere, like Hitman in that first game. Big white bald guy, and nobody will see me in my Chinese pajamas. I will get to the bottom of this. Oh and me and sifo can share a hotel room, to cut down on costs for CC. :thumb: We just need money for travel expense and a small per diem for meals. And demik's bar tab too, probably.bwahahahahaha
sifo already speaks korean, sheesh. playboy wut wut
watch out for demik though. he's a loose cannon.
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 02 December 2013, 23:58:20
If tinnie can find the kishsavers, he can find these bastards!detective tinlong. brilliant.
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 03 December 2013, 00:10:30
bwahahahahaha
sifo already speaks korean, sheesh. playboy wut wut
watch out for demik though. he's a loose cannon.
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/1015794/wildcard-*****es-o.gif)
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 03 December 2013, 00:29:51
And will you return items you traded for them??
of course...i'll return traded item.when i get.
Seems convenient that you'll only send trades when you receive the items you inadvertently misled people about back. I'd think that fakes wouldn't be worth anything for you to hold on to.
See. Everybody has a friend. But nobody is naming names.
Snitches get stitches, demik.
Well, if CC will hire me, I volunteer myself to go to S. Korea and investigate this counterfeit Clack ring. I will go undercover. Deep undercover. Hmm, but I need a dream team to back me up. I would also like to take demik for his tough street smarts, and kmiller8 for his general bad attitude and cynicism. He can be bad cop, and I will be good cop. And demik will be bad cop as well, i guess, or grumpy cop. So bad cop, grumpy cop, good cop. Now that I'm thinking about it, we need Sifo too, but he has to learn to speak Korean, quickly. I am a master of disguise, so I can blend in anywhere, like Hitman in that first game. Big white bald guy, and nobody will see me in my Chinese pajamas. I will get to the bottom of this. Oh and me and sifo can share a hotel room, to cut down on costs for CC. :thumb: We just need money for travel expense and a small per diem for meals. And demik's bar tab too, probably.bwahahahahaha
sifo already speaks korean, sheesh. playboy wut wut
watch out for demik though. he's a loose cannon.
I could keep him under control, but you took my badge and gun!
Post by: Moosecraft on Tue, 03 December 2013, 01:47:23
Post by: leesofi on Tue, 03 December 2013, 02:32:02
Post by: tinlong117 on Tue, 03 December 2013, 04:21:50
I hate Chinese.If tinnie can find the kishsavers, he can find these bastards!detective tinlong. brilliant.
Post by: snoopy on Tue, 03 December 2013, 04:25:06
I hate Chinese.If tinnie can find the kishsavers, he can find these bastards!detective tinlong. brilliant.
Racist!
:p
Post by: yasuo on Tue, 03 December 2013, 04:28:49
tinlong is chinese or maybe HKI hate Chinese.If tinnie can find the kishsavers, he can find these bastards!detective tinlong. brilliant.
Racist!
:p
Post by: tinlong117 on Tue, 03 December 2013, 04:30:05
I hate Chinese.If tinnie can find the kishsavers, he can find these bastards!detective tinlong. brilliant.
Racist!
:p
**** them all! ROAR! >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
:))
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 03 December 2013, 05:35:21
i sent PM that all had trade ppl
and I sent PM CC VENDOR too.
"At first, sry about this trouble.
i'm a big fan of your arts.
I bought my korean friend that fake CC.(But i didn't know it is fake, and i didn't know how to distinguish.)
I sent pm all trade ppl "plz return to me" there are about 6~7ea FAKE CC.
I promise when i get back all. i'll send to you all.
plz let me know your address and shipping info.
I respect your rights.Really sorry to bother you and your arts.
i knew my ignorance, regret my wrongdoings
THX 4 YOUR PM
AND SORRY AGAIN."
i do not want to affect team redline's works. (We always try to work hard and sincere.)
i promise
i had trade 6~7 CC(2kind of cc)
Of course, I believed him(my korean friend) and did not even suspect. IT'S MY FAULT. i just surprised !!! "Wow translucent CC"
Plz return to me or send to CC VENDOR. If you return to me, I'll send all fake CC to 'CC VENDOR MODERATO'. and I will prevent the emergence of a fake.
again for disclosure, i still didnt get a pm
Post by: justnits on Tue, 03 December 2013, 05:36:14
Post by: szymonduzyk on Tue, 03 December 2013, 06:07:14
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 03 December 2013, 06:15:33
Where I can buy some these fake CCs? I don't care about authenticity.
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Post by: Tym on Tue, 03 December 2013, 06:16:20
Where I can buy some these fake CCs? I don't care about authenticity.Well, you only have 2 posts and with one of those post you managed to make a large number of people dislike you... good job.
Post by: Krogenar on Tue, 03 December 2013, 06:18:54
Where I can buy some these fake CCs? I don't care about authenticity.
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What if CC photographed each clack individually, and put a maker's mark of some kind on each one? Buy one of those heated engraving pens, put something, anything -- a number (1 of 25) -- so everything could be authenticated? Also, is there something unique that the Chinese make that we could ruthlessly infringe upon?
Post by: Alessandro on Tue, 03 December 2013, 06:26:58
Where I can buy some these fake CCs? I don't care about authenticity.
Needs more racial stereotypes.
Post by: demik on Tue, 03 December 2013, 07:17:38
1) my pixie stix addiction has made me do some things I regret. But NEVER have I gotten to the point where I reproduce fakes.
2) eth0s, i am honored to be part of your team. I don't drink but I will if my part calls for it. Oh, will I drink.
3) can we make time for Korean girls on this trip?
Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 03 December 2013, 07:17:43
I hate Chinese.If tinnie can find the kishsavers, he can find these bastards!detective tinlong. brilliant.
sherlock tin is on topic as usual
Post by: snoopy on Tue, 03 December 2013, 07:19:30
tinlong is chinese or maybe HKI hate Chinese.If tinnie can find the kishsavers, he can find these bastards!detective tinlong. brilliant.
Racist!
:p
I know ;)
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 03 December 2013, 07:51:15
Let's get some things straight.
1) my pixie stix addiction has made me do some things I regret. But NEVER have I gotten to the point where I reproduce fakes.
2) eth0s, i am honored to be part of your team. I don't drink but I will if my part calls for it. Oh, will I drink.
3) can we make time for Korean girls on this trip?
Looks like this investigation could use some LOGIC!
I'll go if there's a spot open. :thumb:
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 December 2013, 08:01:44
Let's get some things straight.
1) my pixie stix addiction has made me do some things I regret. But NEVER have I gotten to the point where I reproduce fakes.
2) eth0s, i am honored to be part of your team. I don't drink but I will if my part calls for it. Oh, will I drink.
3) can we make time for Korean girls on this trip?
Looks like this investigation could use some LOGIC!
I'll go if there's a spot open. :thumb:
Are you sure you can leave your basement? Obviously I am the logical choice for this mission.
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 03 December 2013, 08:04:29
Let's get some things straight.
1) my pixie stix addiction has made me do some things I regret. But NEVER have I gotten to the point where I reproduce fakes.
2) eth0s, i am honored to be part of your team. I don't drink but I will if my part calls for it. Oh, will I drink.
3) can we make time for Korean girls on this trip?
Looks like this investigation could use some LOGIC!
I'll go if there's a spot open. :thumb:
Are you sure you can leave your basement? Obviously I am the logical choice for this mission.
You have the riot shield, so you would be the most logical choice.
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 03 December 2013, 08:13:54
Let's get some things straight.
1) my pixie stix addiction has made me do some things I regret. But NEVER have I gotten to the point where I reproduce fakes.
2) eth0s, i am honored to be part of your team. I don't drink but I will if my part calls for it. Oh, will I drink.
3) can we make time for Korean girls on this trip?
Looks like this investigation could use some LOGIC!
I'll go if there's a spot open. :thumb:
So we have the bull**** spot filled.
Still working on the logic...
Nope, here comes JD. Looks like the team is complete.
Post by: Fire Brand on Tue, 03 December 2013, 08:30:33
Back on topic it's nice to see that the person that unknowingly circulated these is trying to make amens, better than what most may do so props to him for that at least.
Post by: AGmurdercore on Tue, 03 December 2013, 09:00:41
Just as a note I'm not sure who it was that melted a clack before but, you could melt the fake and show them how a fake melts :pFrom what i saw so far it seems that he is only posting stuff and not actually trying to fix anything... might be wrong tho.
Back on topic it's nice to see that the person that unknowingly circulated these is trying to make amens, better than what most may do so props to him for that at least.
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 03 December 2013, 09:17:09
Make some for Alps and buckling springs, too.
Get congratulations and thanks for yourself instead of anger.
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Tue, 03 December 2013, 09:17:32
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 03 December 2013, 09:24:40
Please, somebody, put this time and energy into creating new and interesting key caps!
Make some for Alps and buckling springs, too.
Get congratulations and thanks for yourself instead of anger.
That's not how things work. This was literally nothing in time and creativity. I assure you it took the person who did this nothing in comparison to what the original creator put in.
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 December 2013, 09:24:46
What's to stop someone from faking the mark on the bottom?
An angry mob?
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 03 December 2013, 09:27:41
What's to stop someone from faking the mark on the bottom?
An angry mob?
The correct answer is: absolutely nothing. We all know it. And if/when that happens, I fear there will be likely zero way to know whether you're getting something original or not.
Post by: Krogenar on Tue, 03 December 2013, 09:34:01
What's to stop someone from faking the mark on the bottom?
An angry mob?
The correct answer is: absolutely nothing. We all know it. And if/when that happens, I fear there will be likely zero way to know whether you're getting something original or not.
Why not get one of those pen engravers, and CF can etch 1 of # on each? Add a little to the price to pay for the extra effort. These are works of art -- limited editions. Why not label them as such? Then photograph each one -- ah, you know what, I just managed to unconvince myself. CF should just sell them at a market rate, so that at least the money ends up in his pockets, and not a goddamned forger's.
The only upside to this is that the clack market (which so many people hated) is now ruined.
Post by: Fire Brand on Tue, 03 December 2013, 09:37:58
Just as a note I'm not sure who it was that melted a clack before but, you could melt the fake and show them how a fake melts :pFrom what i saw so far it seems that he is only posting stuff and not actually trying to fix anything... might be wrong tho.
Back on topic it's nice to see that the person that unknowingly circulated these is trying to make amens, better than what most may do so props to him for that at least.
It's a start though and he did say he will be sending all the items back so just need to give him time yet, again still better than what some may do and just do a runner never to be heard from again.
Post by: bueller on Tue, 03 December 2013, 10:01:21
Just as a note I'm not sure who it was that melted a clack before but, you could melt the fake and show them how a fake melts :pFrom what i saw so far it seems that he is only posting stuff and not actually trying to fix anything... might be wrong tho.
Back on topic it's nice to see that the person that unknowingly circulated these is trying to make amens, better than what most may do so props to him for that at least.
It's a start though and he did say he will be sending all the items back so just need to give him time yet, again still better than what some may do and just do a runner never to be heard from again.
The fact that he says he messaged people TWICE and Bunny still hasn't heard anything doesn't give me a lot of hope.
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 03 December 2013, 10:02:45
Shame.
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 03 December 2013, 10:05:12
Just as a note I'm not sure who it was that melted a clack before but, you could melt the fake and show them how a fake melts :pFrom what i saw so far it seems that he is only posting stuff and not actually trying to fix anything... might be wrong tho.
Back on topic it's nice to see that the person that unknowingly circulated these is trying to make amens, better than what most may do so props to him for that at least.
It's a start though and he did say he will be sending all the items back so just need to give him time yet, again still better than what some may do and just do a runner never to be heard from again.
The fact that he says he messaged people TWICE and Bunny still hasn't heard anything doesn't give me a lot of hope.
His first message said some, his second message said all, and I know I'm not the only one who hasn't had a message, I have also sent him a friendly message myself and still got no reply, we shall see
Post by: germy on Tue, 03 December 2013, 10:08:52
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 03 December 2013, 10:17:30
Where I can buy some these fake CCs? I don't care about authenticity.
*FACEPALM*
GTFO!!!!
Just as a note I'm not sure who it was that melted a clack before but, you could melt the fake and show them how a fake melts :pFrom what i saw so far it seems that he is only posting stuff and not actually trying to fix anything... might be wrong tho.
Back on topic it's nice to see that the person that unknowingly circulated these is trying to make amens, better than what most may do so props to him for that at least.
It's a start though and he did say he will be sending all the items back so just need to give him time yet, again still better than what some may do and just do a runner never to be heard from again.
The fact that he says he messaged people TWICE and Bunny still hasn't heard anything doesn't give me a lot of hope.
His first message said some, his second message said all, and I know I'm not the only one who hasn't had a message, I have also sent him a friendly message myself and still got no reply, we shall see
Man, please message bunny dude!
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 03 December 2013, 11:31:41
That is rather odd. I've gotten multiple messages...Just as a note I'm not sure who it was that melted a clack before but, you could melt the fake and show them how a fake melts :pFrom what i saw so far it seems that he is only posting stuff and not actually trying to fix anything... might be wrong tho.
Back on topic it's nice to see that the person that unknowingly circulated these is trying to make amens, better than what most may do so props to him for that at least.
It's a start though and he did say he will be sending all the items back so just need to give him time yet, again still better than what some may do and just do a runner never to be heard from again.
The fact that he says he messaged people TWICE and Bunny still hasn't heard anything doesn't give me a lot of hope.
His first message said some, his second message said all, and I know I'm not the only one who hasn't had a message, I have also sent him a friendly message myself and still got no reply, we shall see
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 03 December 2013, 11:33:58
That is rather odd. I've gotten multiple messages...Just as a note I'm not sure who it was that melted a clack before but, you could melt the fake and show them how a fake melts :pFrom what i saw so far it seems that he is only posting stuff and not actually trying to fix anything... might be wrong tho.
Back on topic it's nice to see that the person that unknowingly circulated these is trying to make amens, better than what most may do so props to him for that at least.
It's a start though and he did say he will be sending all the items back so just need to give him time yet, again still better than what some may do and just do a runner never to be heard from again.
The fact that he says he messaged people TWICE and Bunny still hasn't heard anything doesn't give me a lot of hope.
His first message said some, his second message said all, and I know I'm not the only one who hasn't had a message, I have also sent him a friendly message myself and still got no reply, we shall see
guess im just unlucky
to be fair, when i thought that it was 1 or 2 that went out, i was confident it would get sorted, but after finding out the scale, ive given up any hope of a resolution anyway, we shall see, as i say, no communication with me at all
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 03 December 2013, 12:00:02
Post by: Moosecraft on Tue, 03 December 2013, 12:07:57
Maybe the PMs got lost in the mail somewhere.lolololol
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 December 2013, 12:46:36
Well, if CC will hire me, I volunteer myself to go to S. Korea and investigate this counterfeit Clack ring. I will go undercover. Deep undercover. Hmm, but I need a dream team to back me up. I would also like to take demik for his tough street smarts, and kmiller8 for his general bad attitude and cynicism. He can be bad cop, and I will be good cop. And demik will be bad cop as well, i guess, or grumpy cop. So bad cop, grumpy cop, good cop. Now that I'm thinking about it, we need Sifo too, but he has to learn to speak Korean, quickly. I am a master of disguise, so I can blend in anywhere, like Hitman in that first game. Big white bald guy, and nobody will see me in my Chinese pajamas. I will get to the bottom of this. Oh and me and sifo can share a hotel room, to cut down on costs for CC. :thumb: We just need money for travel expense and a small per diem for meals. And demik's bar tab too, probably.
Umm, sorry no. Absolutely under no circumstances will anyone be allowed to take home any fake Clacks. I omitted mentioning that kmiller8's most important job will be to destroy all confiscated counterfeit merchandise. (he has the technique, the experience, and the technology.) So absolutely no fake Clacks will be allowed to survive. No member of the team will be allowed to keep any fakes as souvenirs, mementos or keepsakes. That is the one absolute rule. Breaking this rule will result in termination, with extreme prejudice.
Well, I have so many volunteers, it will be a really great trip! We just need our funding to come through.
Until then, I have drawn up a mission briefing: most of you will be posing as a group of extremely rich, but rather stupid American keyboard enthusiasts looking to buy exotic and illegal keycaps. I will be posing as an international jet-setter, bon vivant and racanteur, who is also a super-spy and and assassin. (IRL, I look like Jason Statham, but a bit more handsome. Also, Jason is a bit older than me.) The main group will distract our prey, while I infiltrate their lair. I will be captured, of course, and most likely seduced by a beautiful woman, and then later tortured, but just before I am about to die, demik will burst in and rescue me. We will defeat the bad guys, confiscate the Clacks, and kmiller8 will destroy them in an environmentally friendly way. TJ will bring his pitchforks and torches, organize our main group into an angry mob, and set upon the counterfeiters and slap them silly. Teaching them, beyond doubt, that crime doesn't pay.
I'm furious. Why am I not part of this dream team?
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 03 December 2013, 12:57:36
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 03 December 2013, 12:59:31
I looked over my fake today before I sent it to CC. It was made WAY below CC's standards. Clearly not genuine and frankly not a very nice cap.
yeah there is seriously no mistaking it for the real deal
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:04:09
I'm also hoping everything works out and everyone gets back their goods/money.
Post by: demik on Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:12:15
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:14:14
Well I just got PMd some very interesting news.
wat
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:14:59
Post by: zenuty on Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:16:09
If you are visit to korea that You are not need to Hotel.
I would give to you Food, Beer, Bed and G*ir*l*s
My home is accommodate up to MAX 30 guests
I have experience many times for visit a group at my home.
If you want proof i would show to you a pictures. :rolleyes:
Well, if CC will hire me, I volunteer myself to go to S. Korea and investigate this counterfeit Clack ring. I will go undercover. Deep undercover. Hmm, but I need a dream team to back me up. I would also like to take demik for his tough street smarts, and kmiller8 for his general bad attitude and cynicism. He can be bad cop, and I will be good cop. And demik will be bad cop as well, i guess, or grumpy cop. So bad cop, grumpy cop, good cop. Now that I'm thinking about it, we need Sifo too, but he has to learn to speak Korean, quickly. I am a master of disguise, so I can blend in anywhere, like Hitman in that first game. Big white bald guy, and nobody will see me in my Chinese pajamas. I will get to the bottom of this. Oh and me and sifo can share a hotel room, to cut down on costs for CC. :thumb: We just need money for travel expense and a small per diem for meals. And demik's bar tab too, probably.I'm sure zenuty would house you, feed you some of his delicious food, and aide you on your journey.;
Post by: Michael on Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:17:51
If you want proof i would show to you a pictures. ::)
Definitely going to need to see the bottom....
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:18:03
Well I just got PMd some very interesting news.
Sharing is caring :)
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:18:48
Wellcome to korea
If you are visit to korea that You are not need to Hotel.
I would give to you Food, Beer, Bed and G*ir*l*s
My home is accommodate up to MAX 30 guests
I have experience many times for visit a group at my home.
If you want proof i would show to you a pictures. :rolleyes:
When can I visit? Definitely has to be during a major GSL or other SC2 event :p
Post by: Alessandro on Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:19:13
Post by: iri on Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:22:36
Wellcome to koreayou rock!
If you are visit to korea that You are not need to Hotel.
I would give to you Food, Beer, Bed and G*ir*l*s
My home is accommodate up to MAX 30 guests
I have experience many times for visit a group at my home.
If you want proof i would show to you a pictures. :rolleyes:Well, if CC will hire me, I volunteer myself to go to S. Korea and investigate this counterfeit Clack ring. I will go undercover. Deep undercover. Hmm, but I need a dream team to back me up. I would also like to take demik for his tough street smarts, and kmiller8 for his general bad attitude and cynicism. He can be bad cop, and I will be good cop. And demik will be bad cop as well, i guess, or grumpy cop. So bad cop, grumpy cop, good cop. Now that I'm thinking about it, we need Sifo too, but he has to learn to speak Korean, quickly. I am a master of disguise, so I can blend in anywhere, like Hitman in that first game. Big white bald guy, and nobody will see me in my Chinese pajamas. I will get to the bottom of this. Oh and me and sifo can share a hotel room, to cut down on costs for CC. :thumb: We just need money for travel expense and a small per diem for meals. And demik's bar tab too, probably.I'm sure zenuty would house you, feed you some of his delicious food, and aide you on your journey.;
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:23:00
Where I can buy some these fake CCs? I don't care about authenticity.
(Attachment Link)
What if CC photographed each clack individually, and put a maker's mark of some kind on each one? Buy one of those heated engraving pens, put something, anything -- a number (1 of 25) -- so everything could be authenticated? Also, is there something unique that the Chinese make that we could ruthlessly infringe upon?
Faking things?
What's to stop someone from faking the mark on the bottom?
An angry mob?
The correct answer is: absolutely nothing. We all know it. And if/when that happens, I fear there will be likely zero way to know whether you're getting something original or not.
Why not get one of those pen engravers, and CF can etch 1 of # on each? Add a little to the price to pay for the extra effort. These are works of art -- limited editions. Why not label them as such? Then photograph each one -- ah, you know what, I just managed to unconvince myself. CF should just sell them at a market rate, so that at least the money ends up in his pockets, and not a goddamned forger's.
The only upside to this is that the clack market (which so many people hated) is now ruined.
Also, if he put a 1 of X on his caps, then people would know how many he makes in a batch and that's verbotten sir.
Well, if CC will hire me, I volunteer myself to go to S. Korea and investigate this counterfeit Clack ring. I will go undercover. Deep undercover. Hmm, but I need a dream team to back me up. I would also like to take demik for his tough street smarts, and kmiller8 for his general bad attitude and cynicism. He can be bad cop, and I will be good cop. And demik will be bad cop as well, i guess, or grumpy cop. So bad cop, grumpy cop, good cop. Now that I'm thinking about it, we need Sifo too, but he has to learn to speak Korean, quickly. I am a master of disguise, so I can blend in anywhere, like Hitman in that first game. Big white bald guy, and nobody will see me in my Chinese pajamas. I will get to the bottom of this. Oh and me and sifo can share a hotel room, to cut down on costs for CC. :thumb: We just need money for travel expense and a small per diem for meals. And demik's bar tab too, probably.Umm, sorry no. Absolutely under no circumstances will anyone be allowed to take home any fake Clacks. I omitted mentioning that kmiller8's most important job will be to destroy all confiscated counterfeit merchandise. (he has the technique, the experience, and the technology.) So absolutely no fake Clacks will be allowed to survive. No member of the team will be allowed to keep any fakes as souvenirs, mementos or keepsakes. That is the one absolute rule. Breaking this rule will result in termination, with extreme prejudice.
Well, I have so many volunteers, it will be a really great trip! We just need our funding to come through.
Until then, I have drawn up a mission briefing: most of you will be posing as a group of extremely rich, but rather stupid American keyboard enthusiasts looking to buy exotic and illegal keycaps. I will be posing as an international jet-setter, bon vivant and racanteur, who is also a super-spy and and assassin. (IRL, I look like Jason Statham, but a bit more handsome. Also, Jason is a bit older than me.) The main group will distract our prey, while I infiltrate their lair. I will be captured, of course, and most likely seduced by a beautiful woman, and then later tortured, but just before I am about to die, demik will burst in and rescue me. We will defeat the bad guys, confiscate the Clacks, and kmiller8 will destroy them in an environmentally friendly way. TJ will bring his pitchforks and torches, organize our main group into an angry mob, and set upon the counterfeiters and slap them silly. Teaching them, beyond doubt, that crime doesn't pay.
I'm furious. Why am I not part of this dream team?
Because they don't need any one new slowing them down?
Post by: Moosecraft on Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:29:17
^Well I just got PMd some very interesting news.
Sharing is caring :)
Post by: demik on Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:31:22
Well I just got PMd some very interesting news.
Sharing is caring :)
Nothing to do with Clacks but CPTBadAss got his mad dogs today
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:35:18
Well I just got PMd some very interesting news.
Sharing is caring :)
Nothing to do with Clacks but CPTBadAss got his mad dogs tpday
roflroflrofl
Post by: meiosis on Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:06:38
Wellcome to korea
If you are visit to korea that You are not need to Hotel.
I would give to you Food, Beer, Bed and G*ir*l*s
My home is accommodate up to MAX 30 guests
I have experience many times for visit a group at my home.
If you want proof i would show to you a pictures. :rolleyes:snip
Zenuty lives in a mansion, he has 30 rooms :\.
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:28:31
:)) :)) :))
Post by: Michael on Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:30:23
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:30:50
Who cares about fake clacks? We're going to visit zenuty!!
:)) :)) :))
That's why I wanted to be on the dream team :D
Post by: moogle on Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:37:55
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1gJ5VQZ.gif)
penis.
Post by: iri on Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:39:50
Who cares about fake clacks? We're going to visit zenuty!!i don't give a **** about clacks, but going to zenuty's mansion is appealing
:)) :)) :))
Post by: demik on Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:42:41
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1gJ5VQZ.gif)
penis.
En tu boca
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:42:55
Bottom of one of these could easily be compared to the bottom of other manufactured/sold keys. I have a strong suspicion who made them just from recognizing the work. I'm going to wait and allow innocence until proven guilty though, even though that is not a worldwide standard.You're probably right ;)
I'm also hoping everything works out and everyone gets back their goods/money.
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:56:27
Is it the guy who makes the robot faces or the guy who makes the translucent blue gas masks?Bottom of one of these could easily be compared to the bottom of other manufactured/sold keys. I have a strong suspicion who made them just from recognizing the work. I'm going to wait and allow innocence until proven guilty though, even though that is not a worldwide standard.You're probably right ;)
I'm also hoping everything works out and everyone gets back their goods/money.
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:57:30
Is it the guy who makes the robot faces or the guy who makes the translucent blue gas masks?
:)) :)) :))
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:58:29
Is it the guy who makes the robot faces or the guy who makes the translucent blue gas masks?Bottom of one of these could easily be compared to the bottom of other manufactured/sold keys. I have a strong suspicion who made them just from recognizing the work. I'm going to wait and allow innocence until proven guilty though, even though that is not a worldwide standard.You're probably right ;)
I'm also hoping everything works out and everyone gets back their goods/money.
Ah, child, you have much to learn.
Post by: Michael on Tue, 03 December 2013, 14:58:55
Is it the guy who makes the robot faces or the guy who makes the translucent blue gas masks?Bottom of one of these could easily be compared to the bottom of other manufactured/sold keys. I have a strong suspicion who made them just from recognizing the work. I'm going to wait and allow innocence until proven guilty though, even though that is not a worldwide standard.You're probably right ;)
I'm also hoping everything works out and everyone gets back their goods/money.
totally!!!!!
(http://i.imgur.com/oqYQuHN.gif)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 03 December 2013, 15:02:31
Is it the guy who makes the robot faces or the guy who makes the translucent blue gas masks?Bottom of one of these could easily be compared to the bottom of other manufactured/sold keys. I have a strong suspicion who made them just from recognizing the work. I'm going to wait and allow innocence until proven guilty though, even though that is not a worldwide standard.You're probably right ;)
I'm also hoping everything works out and everyone gets back their goods/money.
totally!!!!!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oqYQuHN.gif)
^^ that never gets old :D
Post by: Krogenar on Tue, 03 December 2013, 15:05:11
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 03 December 2013, 15:09:04
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 03 December 2013, 15:12:24
Ok, so instead of " # of # " CF should do a Seal Team Six. Just put a few random numbers or letters on each, make a note of them, and then CF at least could authenticate from a photo. The fakes arent great now but they could get better.
That doesn't change much. Somebody could get a Clack, copy it including the number a few times and sell/trade the copies non-public.
Post by: eth0s on Tue, 03 December 2013, 15:13:16
Well, if CC will hire me, I volunteer myself to go to S. Korea and investigate this counterfeit Clack ring. I will go undercover. Deep undercover. Hmm, but I need a dream team to back me up. I would also like to take demik for his tough street smarts, and kmiller8 for his general bad attitude and cynicism. He can be bad cop, and I will be good cop. And demik will be bad cop as well, i guess, or grumpy cop. So bad cop, grumpy cop, good cop. Now that I'm thinking about it, we need Sifo too, but he has to learn to speak Korean, quickly. I am a master of disguise, so I can blend in anywhere, like Hitman in that first game. Big white bald guy, and nobody will see me in my Chinese pajamas. I will get to the bottom of this. Oh and me and sifo can share a hotel room, to cut down on costs for CC. :thumb: We just need money for travel expense and a small per diem for meals. And demik's bar tab too, probably.Umm, sorry no. Absolutely under no circumstances will anyone be allowed to take home any fake Clacks. I omitted mentioning that kmiller8's most important job will be to destroy all confiscated counterfeit merchandise. (he has the technique, the experience, and the technology.) So absolutely no fake Clacks will be allowed to survive. No member of the team will be allowed to keep any fakes as souvenirs, mementos or keepsakes. That is the one absolute rule. Breaking this rule will result in termination, with extreme prejudice.
Well, I have so many volunteers, it will be a really great trip! We just need our funding to come through.
Until then, I have drawn up a mission briefing: most of you will be posing as a group of extremely rich, but rather stupid American keyboard enthusiasts looking to buy exotic and illegal keycaps. I will be posing as an international jet-setter, bon vivant and racanteur, who is also a super-spy and and assassin. (IRL, I look like Jason Statham, but a bit more handsome. Also, Jason is a bit older than me.) The main group will distract our prey, while I infiltrate their lair. I will be captured, of course, and most likely seduced by a beautiful woman, and then later tortured, but just before I am about to die, demik will burst in and rescue me. We will defeat the bad guys, confiscate the Clacks, and kmiller8 will destroy them in an environmentally friendly way. TJ will bring his pitchforks and torches, organize our main group into an angry mob, and set upon the counterfeiters and slap them silly. Teaching them, beyond doubt, that crime doesn't pay.
I'm furious. Why am I not part of this dream team?
Well, first of all the Infiltration Dream Team of Counterfeit Clack Avengers (IDTOCCA) was only a prototype. Second, due to financial constraints, it had to be limited to four members who had the following traits: brutish strength (demik), Korean language skills (Sifo), counterfeit Clack demolition skills (kmiller8). The only job left for you was Team Leader. Which was my job. And I wasn't going to give away my job. But now that budgetary constraints have been lifted, I need a young, sexy Asian co-captain of my team, and I was thinking of asking you, if you're not too busy.
Also, whenever I'm in Seoul, I always stay at the Zenuty mansion, it's quite fabulous. Filled with KMAC's, bags of fried shrimp puffs, and empty noodle cups, but still fabulous.
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 03 December 2013, 15:20:51
I'm furious. Why am I not part of this dream team?
Well, first of all the Infiltration Dream Team of Counterfeit Clack Avengers (IDTOCCA) was only a prototype. Second, due to financial constraints, it had to be limited to four members who had the following traits: brutish strength (demik), Korean language skills (Sifo), counterfeit Clack demolition skills (kmiller8). The only job left for you was Team Leader. Which was my job. And I wasn't going to give away my job. But now that budgetary constraints have been lifted, I need a young, sexy Asian co-captain of my team, and I was thinking of asking you, if you're not too busy.
Also, whenever I'm in Seoul, I always stay at the Zenuty mansion, it's quite fabulous. Filled with KMAC's, bags of fried shrimp puffs, and empty noodle cups, but still fabulous.
eth0s, if you're Jason Statham, I'll be the Mei to your Luke <3. And Zenuty's mansion sounds incredible @.@.
Post by: Alessandro on Tue, 03 December 2013, 15:55:25
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 December 2013, 15:58:04
Get your Ramen today! Free clack in every cup!
That's r...
Oh, nevermind.
Post by: Alessandro on Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:00:09
Post by: Soarer on Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:17:51
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:26:07
Is it the guy who makes the robot faces or the guy who makes the translucent blue gas masks?Bottom of one of these could easily be compared to the bottom of other manufactured/sold keys. I have a strong suspicion who made them just from recognizing the work. I'm going to wait and allow innocence until proven guilty though, even though that is not a worldwide standard.You're probably right ;)
I'm also hoping everything works out and everyone gets back their goods/money.
Wow.
Also, I'm way stronger than demik.
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:32:31
(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=49542.0;attach=42548;image)
Post by: bueller on Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:33:35
Found all the fake Clacks guys, it's okay, brb, off to kmiller themShow Image(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=49542.0;attach=42548;image)
Its kmiller time?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:34:10
Found all the fake Clacks guys, it's okay, brb, off to kmiller themShow Image(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=49542.0;attach=42548;image)
I heard those were all the rage in china.
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:35:23
If you want proof i would show to you a pictures. ::)
Definitely going to need to see the bottom....
:))
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:40:02
Found all the fake Clacks guys, it's okay, brb, off to kmiller themShow Image(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=49542.0;attach=42548;image)
Its kmiller time?
(http://i.imgur.com/KlmP1Dd.png)
Post by: demik on Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:40:49
Is it the guy who makes the robot faces or the guy who makes the translucent blue gas masks?Bottom of one of these could easily be compared to the bottom of other manufactured/sold keys. I have a strong suspicion who made them just from recognizing the work. I'm going to wait and allow innocence until proven guilty though, even though that is not a worldwide standard.You're probably right ;)
I'm also hoping everything works out and everyone gets back their goods/money.
Wow.
Also, I'm way stronger than demik.
But I have charisma!
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:41:13
Found all the fake Clacks guys, it's okay, brb, off to kmiller themShow Image(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=49542.0;attach=42548;image)
I heard those were all the rage in china.
Wow... SpAmRaYcIsT.
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:41:29
You shoulda spent more time to make the K look better.Found all the fake Clacks guys, it's okay, brb, off to kmiller themShow Image(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=49542.0;attach=42548;image)
Its kmiller time?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KlmP1Dd.png)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:42:40
Found all the fake Clacks guys, it's okay, brb, off to kmiller themShow Image(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=49542.0;attach=42548;image)
I heard those were all the rage in china.
Wow... SpAmRaYcIsT.
No seriously a user who lives there chatted with me about those skulls on skype...:thumb:
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:43:06
Is it the guy who makes the robot faces or the guy who makes the translucent blue gas masks?Bottom of one of these could easily be compared to the bottom of other manufactured/sold keys. I have a strong suspicion who made them just from recognizing the work. I'm going to wait and allow innocence until proven guilty though, even though that is not a worldwide standard.You're probably right ;)
I'm also hoping everything works out and everyone gets back their goods/money.
Wow.
Also, I'm way stronger than demik.
But I have charisma!
Do you though? I walk around with a pipe and people are like "look at that guy with a pipe, we gotta talk to him"
You walk around with a pipe and you get arrested for paraphernalia
Post by: snoopy on Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:55:25
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 03 December 2013, 16:56:06
Post by: Alessandro on Tue, 03 December 2013, 17:05:42
Me wants buy to Jack O' Fake ClackClick. How much money Jack Clack is? Wants me buy now. PM me if have Fake O' Jack you.
Such racist.
Post by: snoopy on Tue, 03 December 2013, 17:10:55
Me wants buy to Jack O' Fake ClackClick. How much money Jack Clack is? Wants me buy now. PM me if have Fake O' Jack you.
Such racist.
psssst, I'm undercover. I try to attract fake clack dealers.
:))
Post by: Alessandro on Tue, 03 December 2013, 17:13:17
Me wants buy to Jack O' Fake ClackClick. How much money Jack Clack is? Wants me buy now. PM me if have Fake O' Jack you.
Such racist.
psssst, I'm undercover. I try to attract fake clack dealers.
:))
So far you're only attracting Koreans with easy translations.
Oh wait... ;)
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 03 December 2013, 17:16:22
Me wants buy to Jack O' Fake ClackClick. How much money Jack Clack is? Wants me buy now. PM me if have Fake O' Jack you.
Such racist.
psssst, I'm undercover. I try to attract fake clack dealers.
:))
I'm working overcover at the moment.
Post by: demik on Tue, 03 December 2013, 17:21:31
****. Ignore my PM then.Me wants buy to Jack O' Fake ClackClick. How much money Jack Clack is? Wants me buy now. PM me if have Fake O' Jack you.
Such racist.
psssst, I'm undercover. I try to attract fake clack dealers.
:))
Post by: keymaster on Tue, 03 December 2013, 17:26:56
I've been watching, reading, and analyzing the whole ordeal with CCs in the community.
"Sorry for the inconvenience, but this is a revolution."
It's hilarious that there are privileged users here for whom rules don't apply like they do to everyone else, but that's another story. My thoughts and ideas on major issues may not be popular here because they do not coincide with the status quo, but since I am not looking to "fit in" for the sake of fitting in, I'm going to be honest about what is going on. I don't particularly care for CCs unlike many of you, but I would still like to acquire one at a reasonable/retail price because they look cool. What I do care about is this community as a whole and what it can be, not what it currently is.
The CC bubble will burst if the creator of the fake CCs decides to mass produce them. Like many of you, I am under the suspicion that the counterfeiter is located somewhere in Asia. Why? Because I don't think there are many capable and/or interested enough individuals within the scene in the West. With a few exceptions such as CC, Brobot, and Binge, most of the exceptional creativity and innovation seems to come from Korea and other Asian countries (LZ, GirlDC, users on OTD/KBDmania). It's for these reasons I believe the counterfeiter is from an Asian country -- not because of an ill-advised stereotype that China is land of the ripoffs.
Obviously, many of you here under the watchful eyes of moderators and the community would declare you would never want to purchase a fake CC. Let's be real here. Most of you, including myself, would not hesitate for an moment if no one was watching and/or judging you. Sure, buying these fake CCs would be a slap in the face to the creator himself, but is it really so bad if the abundance of fake CCs allows for most people to acquire one for cheap at a moment's notice? Think of the overall good for the community. Drama in regards to CCs will mostly disappear since most of the butthurt comes from the overpricing and limited quantities. Elitism surrounding CCs would instantly disappear since the "exclusivity" of the item would be non-existent.
Perhaps what I'm suggesting will go over the heads of many short-sighted users. Perhaps my views on the idea of a copyright are too radical. At the end of the day, folks, from the outside of the scene looking in, all the counterfeiter is doing is copying a piece of ****ing plastic. Sure, it's art to myself and many of you, but it's a form of art that can be easily replicated. Remind yourselves that a few of the people on this forum got their start in selling keycaps by copying copyrighted images and/or molds. Frankly, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. To me, it seems like many of you are upset, not with the fact that a copyright is being broken (has not direct on anyone but CC himself), but the fact that many of you have thrown hundreds of dollars down the sink because cheap replicas might soon be available. For all the drama the lack of CCs and the inflated resale prices have caused, I am glad that the idea of copyrights are not the same or even exist in most of the world.
Lastly, before a tirade of angry posts in regards to my views on copyright: how many of you pirate music, TV shows, and movies? How does this scenario differ? Because we "know" the guy behind the CC? The hypocrisy is overwhelming.
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 03 December 2013, 17:29:20
I'm glad people are making great contributions to the topic. :rolleyes:*Insert relevant jimmies rustled image*
I've been watching, reading, and analyzing the whole ordeal with CCs in the community.
"Sorry for the inconvenience, but this is a revolution."
It's hilarious that there are privileged users here for whom rules don't apply like they do to everyone else, but that's another story. My thoughts and ideas on major issues may not be popular here because they do not coincide with the status quo, but since I am not looking to "fit in" for the sake of fitting in, I'm going to be honest about what is going on. I don't particularly care for CCs unlike many of you, but I would still like to acquire one at a reasonable/retail price because they look cool. What I do care about is this community as a whole and what it can be, not what it currently is.
The CC bubble will burst if the creator of the fake CCs decides to mass produce them. Like many of you, I am under the suspicion that the counterfeiter is located somewhere in Asia. Why? Because I don't think there are many capable and/or interested enough individuals within the scene in the West. With a few exceptions such as CC, Brobot, and Binge, most of the exceptional creativity and innovation seems to come from Korea and other Asian countries (LZ, GirlDC, users on OTD/KBDmania). It's for these reasons I believe the counterfeiter is from an Asian country -- not because of an ill-advised stereotype that China is land of the ripoffs.
Obviously, many of you here under the watchful eyes of moderators and the community would declare you would never want to purchase a fake CC. Let's be real here. Most of you, including myself, would not hesitate for an moment if no one was watching and/or judging you. Sure, buying these fake CCs would be a slap in the face to the creator himself, but is it really so bad if the abundance of fake CCs allows for most people to acquire one for cheap at a moment's notice? Think of the overall good for the community. Drama in regards to CCs will mostly disappear since most of the butthurt comes from the overpricing and limited quantities. Elitism surrounding CCs would instantly disappear since the "exclusivity" of the item would be non-existent.
Perhaps what I'm suggesting will go over the heads of many short-sighted users. Perhaps my views on the idea of a copyright are too radical. At the end of the day, folks, from the outside of the scene looking in, all the counterfeiter is doing is copying a piece of ****ing plastic. Sure, it's art to myself and many of you, but it's a form of art that can be easily replicated. Remind yourselves that a few of the people on this forum got their start in selling keycaps by copying copyrighted images and/or molds. Frankly, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. To me, it seems like many of you are upset, not with the fact that a copyright is being broken (has not direct on anyone but CC himself), but the fact that many of you have thrown hundreds of dollars down the sink because cheap replicas might soon be available. For all the drama the lack of CCs and the inflated resale prices have caused, I am glad that the idea of copyrights are not the same or even exist in most of the world.
Lastly, before a tirade of angry posts in regards to my views on copyright: how many of you pirate music, TV shows, and movies? How does this scenario differ? Because we "know" the guy behind the CC? The hypocrisy is overwhelming.
Post by: snoopy on Tue, 03 December 2013, 17:37:41
Drama in regards to CCs will mostly disappear since most of the butthurt comes from the overpricing and limited quantities. Elitism surrounding CCs would instantly disappear since the "exclusivity" of the item would be non-existent.
Not really interested in a discussion with you, cause most of your stuff is bs. But only one thing: the appearance of fake clacks will push the price of originals even more up. Cause people will feel proud to have an original and they get even more sought after. But I know, you're the kind of guy with fake adidas shoes and a Guzzi watch.
Post by: demik on Tue, 03 December 2013, 17:38:24
Post by: kmiller8 on Tue, 03 December 2013, 17:41:41
I think CC should even the score and clone himself some gas mask and we all move on
fired shots
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 03 December 2013, 17:45:03
Anyone here remember back when this forum was about keyboards? Anyone?
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 03 December 2013, 17:46:10
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 03 December 2013, 17:46:15
Man, Clacks bring nothing but butthurt to this forum these days... I mean I love them, but still...Still is, you're looking in the wrong places.
Anyone here remember back when this forum was about keyboards? Anyone?
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 03 December 2013, 17:46:30
when are we going to ban all keycaps?When are we gonna ban you?
Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 03 December 2013, 17:46:53
lolwhen are we going to ban all keycaps?When are we gonna ban you?
Post by: keymaster on Tue, 03 December 2013, 17:49:51
Not really interested in a discussion with you, cause most of your stuff is bs. But only one thing: the appearance of fake clacks will push the price of originals even more up. Cause people will feel proud to have an original and they get even more sought after. But I know, you're the kind of guy with fake adidas shoes and a Guzzi watch.
For someone dismissing my post as "bull****", you should be able to comprehend that a piece of plastic in the form of a keycap is much, much, much easier to replicate and perfect than a sneaker, car, [insert any other ****ty example]. Also, you sure are assuming a lot about me. :rolleyes: With views like yourself, it's no wonder the forum has turned into what it is currently.
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 03 December 2013, 17:49:57
Man, Clacks bring nothing but butthurt to this forum these days... I mean I love them, but still...
Anyone here remember back when this forum was about keyboards? Anyone?
I am with you. Reading through GH today has left a sour taste for me. It seems like most ongoing threads are referencing this one. The main reason for me though is the lack of honesty within a very tight nit community. If these were just being sold for cheap (still don't agree with this), it would be one thing, but to knowingly (possibly) trade them for things of significant value from community members that have done nothing but give back to GH, just pisses me off.
Been trying not to get into this thread, but I just can't help it anymore.
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 03 December 2013, 17:52:20
DrugER said he didn't know they were fake. Take it as you will.Man, Clacks bring nothing but butthurt to this forum these days... I mean I love them, but still...
Anyone here remember back when this forum was about keyboards? Anyone?
I am with you. Reading through GH today has left a sour taste for me. It seems like most ongoing threads are referencing this one. The main reason for me though is the lack of honesty within a very tight nit community. If these were just being sold for cheap (still don't agree with this), it would be one thing, but to knowingly (possibly) trade them for things of significant value from community members that have done nothing but give back to GH, just pisses me off.
Been trying not to get into this thread, but I just can't help it anymore.
Post by: demik on Tue, 03 December 2013, 17:52:58
when are we going to ban all keycaps?But then what will you NOT buy?
Post by: snoopy on Tue, 03 December 2013, 17:53:21
Not really interested in a discussion with you, cause most of your stuff is bs. But only one thing: the appearance of fake clacks will push the price of originals even more up. Cause people will feel proud to have an original and they get even more sought after. But I know, you're the kind of guy with fake adidas shoes and a Guzzi watch.
For someone dismissing my post as "bull****", you should be able to comprehend that a piece of plastic in the form of a keycap is much, much, much easier to replicate and perfect than a sneaker, car, [insert any other ****ty example]. Also, you sure are assuming a lot about me. :rolleyes: With views like yourself, it's no wonder the forum has turned into what it is currently.
yes, I'm so sorry what I did to that forum. I will leave immediately.
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 03 December 2013, 18:00:36
DrugER said he didn't know they were fake. Take it as you will.Man, Clacks bring nothing but butthurt to this forum these days... I mean I love them, but still...
Anyone here remember back when this forum was about keyboards? Anyone?
I am with you. Reading through GH today has left a sour taste for me. It seems like most ongoing threads are referencing this one. The main reason for me though is the lack of honesty within a very tight nit community. If these were just being sold for cheap (still don't agree with this), it would be one thing, but to knowingly (possibly) trade them for things of significant value from community members that have done nothing but give back to GH, just pisses me off.
Been trying not to get into this thread, but I just can't help it anymore.
Either way, if he truly couldn't deduce that all the Clacks he was getting were fake then it's still his fault. Anyone with a bit of sense would have questioned the origin of a large quantity of rare Clacks instead of shrugging it off as coincidence and trading them to forum members.
He could have simply done this before he bought them: "Hey CC, someone just offered me a large number of translucent blue Clacks, can you verify that they're real?"
Could have saved all of this debate and anger...
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 03 December 2013, 18:01:51
Post by: absyrd on Tue, 03 December 2013, 18:02:05
when are we going to ban all keycaps?When are we gonna ban you?
when are we going to ban all keycaps?But then what will you NOT buy?
Both too fast for me and better than my response would have been. :p
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 03 December 2013, 18:03:15
DrugER isn't guilty, but he's also not innocent.
He's guilty of ignorance. The fake maker is the one guilty of fraud...
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 03 December 2013, 18:07:07
DrugER said he didn't know they were fake. Take it as you will.Man, Clacks bring nothing but butthurt to this forum these days... I mean I love them, but still...
Anyone here remember back when this forum was about keyboards? Anyone?
I am with you. Reading through GH today has left a sour taste for me. It seems like most ongoing threads are referencing this one. The main reason for me though is the lack of honesty within a very tight nit community. If these were just being sold for cheap (still don't agree with this), it would be one thing, but to knowingly (possibly) trade them for things of significant value from community members that have done nothing but give back to GH, just pisses me off.
Been trying not to get into this thread, but I just can't help it anymore.
Either way, if he truly couldn't deduce that all the Clacks he was getting were fake then it's still his fault. Anyone with a bit of sense would have questioned the origin of a large quantity of rare Clacks instead of shrugging it off as coincidence and trading them to forum members.
He could have simply done this before he bought them: "Hey CC, someone just offered me a large number of translucent blue Clacks, can you verify that they're real?"
Could have saved all of this debate and anger...
I am not putting all blame on DrugER, but to just put a picture of one of each color seems shady. Had he posted a picture with several of the same cap, people would have called him out instantly.
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 03 December 2013, 18:07:10
Elitism surrounding CCs would instantly disappear since the "exclusivity" of the item would be non-existent.
This will never ever happen because owning an original will immediately make you "elite" with an exclusive original. I wouldn't really call any CC owner elite any more, just lucky or hard working. They got their CCs by being in the right place at the right time either with money, communication, or luck in sales.
Also one of the worst things people think they see (elitism and "inner circle") comes from one of the nicest intentions. CC himself does something extremely nice and sends keys to people unannounced as a gift. He is trying to do something nice for someone that is a friend or acquaintance. You have no idea what conversation took place maybe in passing "Hey how have you been long time no talk via the interwebs" "kind of meh, personal problems, work sucks, blah blah blah, but I did some really fun stuff too, chit chat stuff", and then some keys get sent out. You as someone not privy to the conversation/situation see some clacks show up in the post your clacks thread with no sales recently and think the person is an "elite" in some cool club. All someone did was maybe have one or two conversations with CC ever and CC decides to do something nice. I used to think there was an elite group until I thought it out. Sure you see cool new stuff like glow in the dark skulls, or oktoberfest themed 420 caps, but someone needs to give them a test before a sale. That person is a guinea pig to make sure the keys came out alright to go on sale.
If you talk and communicate with people on a forum and put out a positive vibe and do nice things for people, others hear about it and reciprocate. Sometimes if you don't do anything nice at all like me someone still does something nice like eyesmiles sending me a toxic gift. He sure got me trying to do nice things to be worthy his gift though.
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 03 December 2013, 18:08:28
DrugER isn't guilty, but he's also not innocent.that's just a conclusion that you've come to after seeing the small amounts of information that have been presented in this thread. it is absolutely meaningless.
keymaster, you don't know where this will lead. just let it play out instead of making assumptions and stating them as fact.
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 03 December 2013, 18:28:11
/me out
Post by: demik on Tue, 03 December 2013, 18:28:17
Post by: keymaster on Tue, 03 December 2013, 18:28:21
Elitism surrounding CCs would instantly disappear since the "exclusivity" of the item would be non-existent.
This will never ever happen because owning an original will immediately make you "elite" with an exclusive original. I wouldn't really call any CC owner elite any more, just lucky or hard working. They got their CCs by being in the right place at the right time either with money, communication, or luck in sales.
Also one of the worst things people think they see (elitism and "inner circle") comes from one of the nicest intentions. CC himself does something extremely nice and sends keys to people unannounced as a gift. He is trying to do something nice for someone that is a friend or acquaintance. You have no idea what conversation took place maybe in passing "Hey how have you been long time no talk via the interwebs" "kind of meh, personal problems, work sucks, blah blah blah, but I did some really fun stuff too, chit chat stuff", and then some keys get sent out. You as someone not privy to the conversation/situation see some clacks show up in the post your clacks thread with no sales recently and think the person is an "elite" in some cool club. All someone did was maybe have one or two conversations with CC ever and CC decides to do something nice. I used to think there was an elite group until I thought it out. Sure you see cool new stuff like glow in the dark skulls, or oktoberfest themed 420 caps, but someone needs to give them a test before a sale. That person is a guinea pig to make sure the keys came out alright to go on sale.
If you talk and communicate with people on a forum and put out a positive vibe and do nice things for people, others hear about it and reciprocate. Sometimes if you don't do anything nice at all like me someone still does something nice like eyesmiles sending me a toxic gift. He sure got me trying to do nice things to be worthy his gift though.
I've taken everything you've said into consideration long before I made my post. The entire "elitism" around CCs isn't really a big deal, but it's there simply due to the selfish, greedy nature of humans. For the record, I was offered a CC at retail price by an active member of GH but I politely refused for a couple reasons. First, it wasn't a CC I wanted. Second, I wasn't looking for someone to gift me a pity CC because I was vocal about the overpriced resale of CCs. My issue has always been with the allowing of such obnoxious resales to take place -- not because I don't have a CC. Also, I disagree with the notion that original CCs would be very expensive and/or exclusive. Perhaps initially, but when the fakes are massproduced, who will even know the difference?
Everything currently seems to be playing out within the predictable nature of human beings (greed, overzealous consumerism). Just because this is a web forum doesn't mean people, in the end, behave or think any differently than "irl". The capabilities of the administrators can override this obstacle by implementing rules and guidelines for proper behavior. This is what people have to understand: it doesn't have to be how it is currently. There is a hierarchy here that can, if they wanted to, instigate massive change.
keymaster, you don't know where this will lead. just let it play out instead of making assumptions and stating them as fact.
My assumptions have been made with careful analysis of the community and the behavior of many prominent members. It seems I've done more thinking about this than some of the individuals here behaving like parrots, implicating people on the most unclear evidence.
Post by: Binge on Tue, 03 December 2013, 18:30:34
when are we going to ban all keycaps?
Guess I should just close up shop :|
Post by: digi on Tue, 03 December 2013, 18:30:52
This will never ever happen because owning an original will immediately make you "elite" with an exclusive original. I wouldn't really call any CC owner elite any more, just lucky or hard working. They got their CCs by being in the right place at the right time either with money, communication, or luck in sales.
Also one of the worst things people think they see (elitism and "inner circle") comes from one of the nicest intentions. CC himself does something extremely nice and sends keys to people unannounced as a gift. He is trying to do something nice for someone that is a friend or acquaintance. You have no idea what conversation took place maybe in passing "Hey how have you been long time no talk via the interwebs" "kind of meh, personal problems, work sucks, blah blah blah, but I did some really fun stuff too, chit chat stuff", and then some keys get sent out. You as someone not privy to the conversation/situation see some clacks show up in the post your clacks thread with no sales recently and think the person is an "elite" in some cool club. All someone did was maybe have one or two conversations with CC ever and CC decides to do something nice. I used to think there was an elite group until I thought it out. Sure you see cool new stuff like glow in the dark skulls, or oktoberfest themed 420 caps, but someone needs to give them a test before a sale. That person is a guinea pig to make sure the keys came out alright to go on sale.
If you talk and communicate with people on a forum and put out a positive vibe and do nice things for people, others hear about it and reciprocate. Sometimes if you don't do anything nice at all like me someone still does something nice like eyesmiles sending me a toxic gift. He sure got me trying to do nice things to be worthy his gift though.
#1 street credit
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Tue, 03 December 2013, 18:32:12
when are we going to ban all keycaps?I'm with you - I've actually long advocated that all keyboards just be exposed switches with a piece of cheesecloth draped over the top, for safety reasons.
DrugER isn't guilty, but he's also not innocent.That's right! He's guiltocent
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 03 December 2013, 18:34:25
there is no way of knowing if you're right, so stop acting as if what you think will happen WILL happen. no matter how much 'careful analysis' you've done there is no way of knowing where this will go, and how it will affect the community and clack market.keymaster, you don't know where this will lead. just let it play out instead of making assumptions and stating them as fact.
My assumptions have been made with careful analysis of the community and the behavior of many prominent members. It seems I've done more thinking about this than some of the individuals here behaving like parrots, implicating people on the most unclear evidence.
Post by: keymaster on Tue, 03 December 2013, 18:37:36
there is no way of knowing if you're right, so stop acting as if what you think will happen WILL happen. no matter how much 'careful analysis' you've done there is no way of knowing where this will go, and how it will affect the community and clack market.keymaster, you don't know where this will lead. just let it play out instead of making assumptions and stating them as fact.
My assumptions have been made with careful analysis of the community and the behavior of many prominent members. It seems I've done more thinking about this than some of the individuals here behaving like parrots, implicating people on the most unclear evidence.
So, because apparently no one here (myself included) can possibly know where this community is heading towards, no one should speak on the matter? Since you obviously disagree with my views and predictions, just say so -- but don't tell me to stop 'acting' like I know what will happen.
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 03 December 2013, 18:37:52
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 03 December 2013, 18:40:19
Post by: demik on Tue, 03 December 2013, 18:50:52
Post by: Photekq on Tue, 03 December 2013, 18:51:00
Photekq is just sad that they were fake. He was so excited that there were more translucent's on the market. :(i am sad :'( not because of the fact there aren't more real translucents on the market, but because good people like you, bunny and others got screwed over.
So, because apparently no one here (myself included) can possibly know where this community is heading towards, no one should speak on the matter? Since you obviously disagree with my views and predictions, just say so -- but don't tell me to stop 'acting' like I know what will happen.is that what you deduced from more 'careful analysis'? that i disagree with you? clearly your 'analysis' skills are lacking, because i don't disagree with you. in fact i don't agree or disagree with anyone at this point. i would rather wait and see where this leads than attempt to guess what will happen. i'm not saying don't discuss this, i'm just saying you DON'T know what will happen, and you should stop acting as if you do. it makes you seem like a pretentious ass. of course, if you want to appear like a pretentious ass, then by all means continue :thumb:
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Tue, 03 December 2013, 19:00:38
My assumptions have been made with careful analysis of the community(http://i.imgur.com/Sx0V0ry.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/kf94jKB.jpg)
Post by: inlikeflynn on Tue, 03 December 2013, 19:08:50
I think CC should even the score and clone himself some gas mask and we all move on
surprised none of the detectives here have posted about the history between these guys...would recommend it
Post by: kmiller8 on Tue, 03 December 2013, 19:15:04
surprised none of the detectives here have posted about the history between these guys...would recommend it
TELL ME YOUR SECRETS FLYNN
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 03 December 2013, 19:16:33
I think CC should even the score and clone himself some gas mask and we all move on
surprised none of the detectives here have posted about the history between these guys...would recommend it
Is this the one where CC has a gas mask design of his own, which predates the GasMask Keycaps one?
Post by: keymaster on Tue, 03 December 2013, 19:18:29
is that what you deduced from more 'careful analysis'? that i disagree with you? clearly your 'analysis' skills are lacking, because i don't disagree with you. in fact i don't agree or disagree with anyone at this point. i would rather wait and see where this leads than attempt to guess what will happen. i'm not saying don't discuss this, i'm just saying you DON'T know what will happen, and you should stop acting as if you do. it makes you seem like a pretentious ass. of course, if you want to appear like a pretentious ass, then by all means continue :thumb:
Haha, I'm sorry if my wall of text brought out some sort of insecurity that makes me seem like a 'pretentious ass' for giving reasons why the forum is falling apart and how it can be fixed. You don't agree or disagree with anyone at this point? Now THAT'S pretentious. You are everyone's best friend, am I right? (lol) Make up your mind and stop getting butthurt when someone with an intellectual response attempts to diagnose the issue.
Post by: inlikeflynn on Tue, 03 December 2013, 19:18:56
What an awkward two weeks this has turned into.thank you for your experience sharing. I will need to clarify that the current design of the keycap is not copied from anyone and not from you. I believe both you and me are not the 1st one who used gasmask as a concept in the products. Being a product designer, I am not worried being challenged on what is 'ORIGINAL'. As I believe the real meaning of original is having the ability to applying an idea into a real product.
I don't even know how to go about this, this time.
One of the first commissioned keycaps I made was for one of my gasmask designs. I loved making it and the
client enjoyed it as well (sometime in early '10). But it was a closed/private sale, however, after a conversation with that client around December '11, I asked if I could redo the masks as a series (some fun new ideas) if they were different than the one he had. He was fine with it and was interested in getting some of the new ones as well. I sent out some prototypes earlier this year for review, some found new homes but most came back. interestingly one of the last to go out a few months back in the series looks a bit similar to the one you have here. it's clearly not mine but It makes my mind wander... (never a good thing, lol).
Now I don't doubt that it's possible you could have made this key without seeing my key(s) but it's a bit weird. The transformer keycap posted earlier was not similar to my Mechkeys and no where near the time it came out so, again, I can see the possibility (plus it was much different) and the same goes for the Legends (comic characters). The real issue might come up when my Toxic keys are finally out of the preproduction run. I can understand that these ideas and icons are popular which is why they are made to begin with. But, I just received three different emails of people saying WTF and directing me to this thread that I cannot ignore. I am busy and bothered already this week so I'm posting this here as opposed to sending multiple private responses now and in hopes of stopping a healthy portion of responses later. I also get a lot of emails asking and/or criticizing why don’t I speak up. The answer by the way is- it's often too time consuming, upsetting/stressful, or makes more problems. And many times unfortunately it's easier to suck up the financial hit and loss of time so as to not rock the boat.
If you independently came up with this key, congrats, but regardless of how it came about please do note that I'm still coming out with mine. Unless I just want to eat it on my time, money, and promises made (I'm tired of doing this). BTW, for those who don't know or who have not seen me write something like this before, let me just say it's very tiring and I have to do it more than you probably will ever know. It's also discouraging and many works have died by it's hand. It's a byproduct of having countless prototypes and designs backed up now and a varied group of people (some new) who get to check em out early. I brought this on myself, but, I get to spew forth my thoughts every once in a while.
If you feel like I have in some small way stolen your thunder, I'm sorry, I truly am, but rest assured the feeling is mutual and excruciatingly, infuriatingly, and depressingly common. Welcome to the club.
... of course if you did this to torment me (lol) or because you lifted my work, then I hope a large elephant trunk #!@%$ you up a tree.
(that was from an email, I thought it too funny not to use here)
Otherwise good luck. =)
/wallet
p.s. I have some upset customers right now. Hoping this is just an impressive and unfortunate coincidence.
p.p.s ... and if you were in my shoes?
For the TL;DR crowd-
Take a guess and move along.
hope to see your product soon.
'遇强越强' is my attitude.
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 03 December 2013, 19:32:36
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 03 December 2013, 19:44:13
And we have never seen the ClackFactory gas mask key to this day.......or at least I have not.Well... :confused:
Post by: demik on Tue, 03 December 2013, 19:47:08
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 03 December 2013, 19:48:50
Guys send me your CCs and I'll authenticate them for free. Might take 1 day to 6 years to return them though.Sounds legit
Post by: demik on Tue, 03 December 2013, 19:50:18
Some might say... too legit to quit.
Post by: bueller on Tue, 03 December 2013, 19:51:43
too legit to quit.
Damn it, beat me to it!
Post by: Lu_e on Tue, 03 December 2013, 20:02:05
Post by: zenuty on Tue, 03 December 2013, 21:52:21
Opps My all caps are no pants :))
If you want proof i would show to you a pictures. ::)
Definitely going to need to see the bottom....
Post by: zenuty on Tue, 03 December 2013, 21:54:07
Maybe i will prepare SC2 ticket for you !
Wellcome to korea
If you are visit to korea that You are not need to Hotel.
I would give to you Food, Beer, Bed and G*ir*l*s
My home is accommodate up to MAX 30 guests
I have experience many times for visit a group at my home.
If you want proof i would show to you a pictures. :rolleyes:
When can I visit? Definitely has to be during a major GSL or other SC2 event :p
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 03 December 2013, 22:06:57
Your wellcome
Maybe i will prepare SC2 ticket for you !Wellcome to korea
If you are visit to korea that You are not need to Hotel.
I would give to you Food, Beer, Bed and G*ir*l*s
My home is accommodate up to MAX 30 guests
I have experience many times for visit a group at my home.
If you want proof i would show to you a pictures. :rolleyes:
When can I visit? Definitely has to be during a major GSL or other SC2 event :p
That would be awesome. I was sort of half joking, but if you ever wanted to visit Orlando for the Disney parks or Universal theme parks or any other reason I have a guest bedroom. I know I won't be able to make it to South Korea for a year or two unless something crazy happens.
Post by: leesofi on Tue, 03 December 2013, 22:23:06
Has DrugER ever posted CCs before? Has he chimed up in CC topic centered threads? It is possible he had no idea how rare the keys were, or didn't care how rare they were not seeing a reason for insane inflated prices. Also often times in Redline threads it is hard to get suitable pictures from these guys, they can be one and done on the picture front so I can totally see why he might only take one picture of each key assuming others might know what they look like. It is also completely possible he knew exactly what he was doing, and who he was working with but we will never know for sure. He has admitted some fault, and said he is going to make it better and send the fake CCs to ClickClack himself as evidence while returning the traded items.
He knew about value of cc. Dont shield him.
He was even darkside.
http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/5892593
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 03 December 2013, 22:30:06
Has DrugER ever posted CCs before? Has he chimed up in CC topic centered threads? It is possible he had no idea how rare the keys were, or didn't care how rare they were not seeing a reason for insane inflated prices. Also often times in Redline threads it is hard to get suitable pictures from these guys, they can be one and done on the picture front so I can totally see why he might only take one picture of each key assuming others might know what they look like. It is also completely possible he knew exactly what he was doing, and who he was working with but we will never know for sure. He has admitted some fault, and said he is going to make it better and send the fake CCs to ClickClack himself as evidence while returning the traded items.
He knew about value of cc. Dont shield him.
He was even darkside.
http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/5892593
Wow. I think its clear at this point that drugER is guilty. He's owned multiple CCs, knows the price they go for, and most likely know's cc's marks.
Post by: leesofi on Tue, 03 December 2013, 22:36:45
Wow. I think its clear at this point that drugER is guilty. He's owned multiple CCs, knows the price they go for, and most likely know's cc's marks.
i know he sold them for his mother`s surgery. now he has night owl, fake ccs and so on.
I dont understand he is clear mind, why he deleted his post of fake cc in korean community? but we can find with google cache:
Post by: zenuty on Tue, 03 December 2013, 22:39:46
Appreciated it your kindness !
Your wellcome
Maybe i will prepare SC2 ticket for you !Wellcome to korea
If you are visit to korea that You are not need to Hotel.
I would give to you Food, Beer, Bed and G*ir*l*s
My home is accommodate up to MAX 30 guests
I have experience many times for visit a group at my home.
If you want proof i would show to you a pictures. :rolleyes:
When can I visit? Definitely has to be during a major GSL or other SC2 event :p
That would be awesome. I was sort of half joking, but if you ever wanted to visit Orlando for the Disney parks or Universal theme parks or any other reason I have a guest bedroom. I know I won't be able to make it to South Korea for a year or two unless something crazy happens.
Post by: Glod on Tue, 03 December 2013, 22:43:26
Post by: zenuty on Tue, 03 December 2013, 22:44:27
Who cares about fake clacks? We're going to visit zenuty!!
:)) :)) :))
Do worry !
I just finished clear my mass up rooms for you !
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 04 December 2013, 00:26:26
Elitism surrounding CCs would instantly disappear since the "exclusivity" of the item would be non-existent.
This will never ever happen because owning an original will immediately make you "elite" with an exclusive original. I wouldn't really call any CC owner elite any more, just lucky or hard working. They got their CCs by being in the right place at the right time either with money, communication, or luck in sales.
Also one of the worst things people think they see (elitism and "inner circle") comes from one of the nicest intentions. CC himself does something extremely nice and sends keys to people unannounced as a gift. He is trying to do something nice for someone that is a friend or acquaintance. You have no idea what conversation took place maybe in passing "Hey how have you been long time no talk via the interwebs" "kind of meh, personal problems, work sucks, blah blah blah, but I did some really fun stuff too, chit chat stuff", and then some keys get sent out. You as someone not privy to the conversation/situation see some clacks show up in the post your clacks thread with no sales recently and think the person is an "elite" in some cool club. All someone did was maybe have one or two conversations with CC ever and CC decides to do something nice. I used to think there was an elite group until I thought it out. Sure you see cool new stuff like glow in the dark skulls, or oktoberfest themed 420 caps, but someone needs to give them a test before a sale. That person is a guinea pig to make sure the keys came out alright to go on sale.
If you talk and communicate with people on a forum and put out a positive vibe and do nice things for people, others hear about it and reciprocate. Sometimes if you don't do anything nice at all like me someone still does something nice like eyesmiles sending me a toxic gift. He sure got me trying to do nice things to be worthy his gift though.
Couldn't of said it better, great post man! :thumb:
Post by: deSheol on Wed, 04 December 2013, 00:28:33
Has DrugER ever posted CCs before? Has he chimed up in CC topic centered threads? It is possible he had no idea how rare the keys were, or didn't care how rare they were not seeing a reason for insane inflated prices. Also often times in Redline threads it is hard to get suitable pictures from these guys, they can be one and done on the picture front so I can totally see why he might only take one picture of each key assuming others might know what they look like. It is also completely possible he knew exactly what he was doing, and who he was working with but we will never know for sure. He has admitted some fault, and said he is going to make it better and send the fake CCs to ClickClack himself as evidence while returning the traded items.
He was taken over by greed, it seems. I offered my clacks and he accepted immediately, it made me wondered but I went with it anyway, I've already received the fake clacks, but never sent mine yet (was already suspicious then). I will be sending the fake clacks to CC.
I am surprised by the clack though, it is so damn similar, flawless, just feel like THEY could be doing something themselves of THEIR own design and art instead of copying. I know for a fact that they might be doing something themselves, but releasing copy cats of another person's art?
-_-
Post by: meiosis on Wed, 04 December 2013, 00:50:38
Has DrugER ever posted CCs before? Has he chimed up in CC topic centered threads? It is possible he had no idea how rare the keys were, or didn't care how rare they were not seeing a reason for insane inflated prices. Also often times in Redline threads it is hard to get suitable pictures from these guys, they can be one and done on the picture front so I can totally see why he might only take one picture of each key assuming others might know what they look like. It is also completely possible he knew exactly what he was doing, and who he was working with but we will never know for sure. He has admitted some fault, and said he is going to make it better and send the fake CCs to ClickClack himself as evidence while returning the traded items.
He was taken over by greed, it seems. I offered my clacks and he accepted immediately, it made me wondered but I went with it anyway, I've already received the fake clacks, but never sent mine yet (was already suspicious then). I will be sending the fake clacks to CC.
I am surprised by the clack though, it is so damn similar, flawless, just feel like THEY could be doing something themselves of THEIR own design and art instead of copying. I know for a fact that they might be doing something themselves, but releasing copy cats of another person's art?
-_-
Honestly, not sure if that is any better...
You agreed to a trade and if it was actually legit how would it look like?
Post by: deSheol on Wed, 04 December 2013, 00:54:19
Has DrugER ever posted CCs before? Has he chimed up in CC topic centered threads? It is possible he had no idea how rare the keys were, or didn't care how rare they were not seeing a reason for insane inflated prices. Also often times in Redline threads it is hard to get suitable pictures from these guys, they can be one and done on the picture front so I can totally see why he might only take one picture of each key assuming others might know what they look like. It is also completely possible he knew exactly what he was doing, and who he was working with but we will never know for sure. He has admitted some fault, and said he is going to make it better and send the fake CCs to ClickClack himself as evidence while returning the traded items.
He was taken over by greed, it seems. I offered my clacks and he accepted immediately, it made me wondered but I went with it anyway, I've already received the fake clacks, but never sent mine yet (was already suspicious then). I will be sending the fake clacks to CC.
I am surprised by the clack though, it is so damn similar, flawless, just feel like THEY could be doing something themselves of THEIR own design and art instead of copying. I know for a fact that they might be doing something themselves, but releasing copy cats of another person's art?
-_-
Honestly, not sure if that is any better...
You agreed to a trade and if it was actually legit how would it look like?
If it was legit? It looks the SAME as what everyone posted, sharp corners, no FXE code. If you think I was scamming, we made a deal of me receiving them FIRST.
He suggested to either sending them to CC or sending them back to him, why would I want to do that? I might as well just send them to CC, so he can burn them, eat them, or just put them in an acrylic casing for all I care.
Post by: demik on Wed, 04 December 2013, 00:56:30
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I am surprised by the clack though, it is so damn similar, flawless, just feel like THEY could be doing something themselves of THEIR own design and art instead of copying. I know for a fact that they might be doing something themselves, but releasing copy cats of another person's art?
(http://images.careersingear.com/imgs/cig/category/4.gif)
Post by: yasuo on Wed, 04 December 2013, 01:10:46
sorry i can't see picture on pg one :-X
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 04 December 2013, 01:12:09
Actually what difference authentic Clack with fake,just material or....?
pls be kidding
its stealing cc's ideas and design
but physically no fxe or cf logo, sharp edges. material is probally close but not exact
Post by: demik on Wed, 04 December 2013, 01:14:53
Actually what difference authentic Clack with fake,just material or....?
pls be kidding
its stealing cc's ideas and design
but physically no fxe or cf logo, sharp edges. material is probally close but not exact
You are quickly rising to the top as the most annoying knowitall that actually doesn't know ****. He asked a legit question. He's not excusing what the guy making fakes did.
Post by: bueller on Wed, 04 December 2013, 01:21:19
Actually what difference authentic Clack with fake,just material or....?
pls be kidding
its stealing cc's ideas and design
but physically no fxe or cf logo, sharp edges. material is probally close but not exact
You are quickly rising to the top as the most annoying knowitall that actually doesn't know ****. He asked a legit question. He's not excusing what the guy making fakes did.
I'm actually starting to cringe before I even read his posts now.
Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 04 December 2013, 01:22:35
Actually what difference authentic Clack with fake,just material or....?
sorry i can't see picture on pg one :-Xbecause slow connection
(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1055/qruj.jpg)
The middle one is the counterfeit one.
Post by: meiosis on Wed, 04 December 2013, 01:27:38
Has DrugER ever posted CCs before? Has he chimed up in CC topic centered threads? It is possible he had no idea how rare the keys were, or didn't care how rare they were not seeing a reason for insane inflated prices. Also often times in Redline threads it is hard to get suitable pictures from these guys, they can be one and done on the picture front so I can totally see why he might only take one picture of each key assuming others might know what they look like. It is also completely possible he knew exactly what he was doing, and who he was working with but we will never know for sure. He has admitted some fault, and said he is going to make it better and send the fake CCs to ClickClack himself as evidence while returning the traded items.
He was taken over by greed, it seems. I offered my clacks and he accepted immediately, it made me wondered but I went with it anyway, I've already received the fake clacks, but never sent mine yet (was already suspicious then). I will be sending the fake clacks to CC.
I am surprised by the clack though, it is so damn similar, flawless, just feel like THEY could be doing something themselves of THEIR own design and art instead of copying. I know for a fact that they might be doing something themselves, but releasing copy cats of another person's art?
-_-
Honestly, not sure if that is any better...
You agreed to a trade and if it was actually legit how would it look like?
If it was legit? It looks the SAME as what everyone posted, sharp corners, no FXE code. If you think I was scamming, we made a deal of me receiving them FIRST.
He suggested to either sending them to CC or sending them back to him, why would I want to do that? I might as well just send them to CC, so he can burn them, eat them, or just put them in an acrylic casing for all I care.
Sorry then about the accusation, didn't know you had the deal going on with Druger since everyone else sent it at same time, almost as if he already knew it was fake. ._.
Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 04 December 2013, 01:32:51
He sent mine without hesitation, 3 day shipping from Korea, didn't even ask if I shipped mine. It was almost like he didn't even care.Has DrugER ever posted CCs before? Has he chimed up in CC topic centered threads? It is possible he had no idea how rare the keys were, or didn't care how rare they were not seeing a reason for insane inflated prices. Also often times in Redline threads it is hard to get suitable pictures from these guys, they can be one and done on the picture front so I can totally see why he might only take one picture of each key assuming others might know what they look like. It is also completely possible he knew exactly what he was doing, and who he was working with but we will never know for sure. He has admitted some fault, and said he is going to make it better and send the fake CCs to ClickClack himself as evidence while returning the traded items.
He was taken over by greed, it seems. I offered my clacks and he accepted immediately, it made me wondered but I went with it anyway, I've already received the fake clacks, but never sent mine yet (was already suspicious then). I will be sending the fake clacks to CC.
I am surprised by the clack though, it is so damn similar, flawless, just feel like THEY could be doing something themselves of THEIR own design and art instead of copying. I know for a fact that they might be doing something themselves, but releasing copy cats of another person's art?
-_-
Honestly, not sure if that is any better...
You agreed to a trade and if it was actually legit how would it look like?
If it was legit? It looks the SAME as what everyone posted, sharp corners, no FXE code. If you think I was scamming, we made a deal of me receiving them FIRST.
He suggested to either sending them to CC or sending them back to him, why would I want to do that? I might as well just send them to CC, so he can burn them, eat them, or just put them in an acrylic casing for all I care.
Sorry then about the accusation, didn't know you had the deal going on with Druger since everyone else sent it at same time, almost as if he already knew it was fake. ._.
Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 04 December 2013, 01:48:44
He sent mine without hesitation, 3 day shipping from Korea, didn't even ask if I shipped mine. It was almost like he didn't even care.Has DrugER ever posted CCs before? Has he chimed up in CC topic centered threads? It is possible he had no idea how rare the keys were, or didn't care how rare they were not seeing a reason for insane inflated prices. Also often times in Redline threads it is hard to get suitable pictures from these guys, they can be one and done on the picture front so I can totally see why he might only take one picture of each key assuming others might know what they look like. It is also completely possible he knew exactly what he was doing, and who he was working with but we will never know for sure. He has admitted some fault, and said he is going to make it better and send the fake CCs to ClickClack himself as evidence while returning the traded items.
He was taken over by greed, it seems. I offered my clacks and he accepted immediately, it made me wondered but I went with it anyway, I've already received the fake clacks, but never sent mine yet (was already suspicious then). I will be sending the fake clacks to CC.
I am surprised by the clack though, it is so damn similar, flawless, just feel like THEY could be doing something themselves of THEIR own design and art instead of copying. I know for a fact that they might be doing something themselves, but releasing copy cats of another person's art?
-_-
Honestly, not sure if that is any better...
You agreed to a trade and if it was actually legit how would it look like?
If it was legit? It looks the SAME as what everyone posted, sharp corners, no FXE code. If you think I was scamming, we made a deal of me receiving them FIRST.
He suggested to either sending them to CC or sending them back to him, why would I want to do that? I might as well just send them to CC, so he can burn them, eat them, or just put them in an acrylic casing for all I care.
Sorry then about the accusation, didn't know you had the deal going on with Druger since everyone else sent it at same time, almost as if he already knew it was fake. ._.
Low risk with high gain :o
Post by: YoungMichael88 on Wed, 04 December 2013, 02:32:17
These thicker/thinner walls and stem quality are not consistent with the gas mask caps that I have. All four walls are uniform thickness and there is quite a bit more material around the + of the stems. Take from that what you will. I don't have the means to take quality bottom pictures of my gas masks but maybe someone could for a fair comparison? Like I said, I don't know for sure so I don't want to choose sides here but I'm inclined to say it's not Martin. Maybe I'm wrong. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/04/nubegaba.jpg)
Post by: deSheol on Wed, 04 December 2013, 03:09:04
I can't say anything for certain but I feel like I should defend Martin a little here (if those were actual accusations against him that I read earlier). In this picture, the left and right walls of the cap seem a tad thicker than the top and bottom walls. The same is true of bunnies picture. Also the stem on both are poor quality. It's very thin at each tip of the MX cross section (+).
These thicker/thinner walls and stem quality are not consistent with the gas mask caps that I have. All four walls are uniform thickness and there is quite a bit more material around the + of the stems. Take from that what you will. I don't have the means to take quality bottom pictures of my gas masks but maybe someone could for a fair comparison? Like I said, I don't know for sure so I don't want to choose sides here but I'm inclined to say it's not Martin. Maybe I'm wrong.Show Image(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/04/nubegaba.jpg)
Not trying to point fingers, but it might be done before the creation of Gasmasks? Just a thought tho, but even if that's the case, the black gasmask martin did has different bottom than this one. I don't think it's made by Martin at all. Weren't they made in China? and Martin is situated in Hong kong?
Post by: daetsid on Wed, 04 December 2013, 03:23:30
He sent mine without hesitation, 3 day shipping from Korea, didn't even ask if I shipped mine. It was almost like he didn't even care.Has DrugER ever posted CCs before? Has he chimed up in CC topic centered threads? It is possible he had no idea how rare the keys were, or didn't care how rare they were not seeing a reason for insane inflated prices. Also often times in Redline threads it is hard to get suitable pictures from these guys, they can be one and done on the picture front so I can totally see why he might only take one picture of each key assuming others might know what they look like. It is also completely possible he knew exactly what he was doing, and who he was working with but we will never know for sure. He has admitted some fault, and said he is going to make it better and send the fake CCs to ClickClack himself as evidence while returning the traded items.
He was taken over by greed, it seems. I offered my clacks and he accepted immediately, it made me wondered but I went with it anyway, I've already received the fake clacks, but never sent mine yet (was already suspicious then). I will be sending the fake clacks to CC.
I am surprised by the clack though, it is so damn similar, flawless, just feel like THEY could be doing something themselves of THEIR own design and art instead of copying. I know for a fact that they might be doing something themselves, but releasing copy cats of another person's art?
-_-
Honestly, not sure if that is any better...
You agreed to a trade and if it was actually legit how would it look like?
If it was legit? It looks the SAME as what everyone posted, sharp corners, no FXE code. If you think I was scamming, we made a deal of me receiving them FIRST.
He suggested to either sending them to CC or sending them back to him, why would I want to do that? I might as well just send them to CC, so he can burn them, eat them, or just put them in an acrylic casing for all I care.
Sorry then about the accusation, didn't know you had the deal going on with Druger since everyone else sent it at same time, almost as if he already knew it was fake. ._.
Wow, we are in the same situation. He offered cash + 2 translucent CC's for a rare keyboard. Since the beginning he wanted to trade both CC's right away, and actually I thought he was just simply and idiot (considering the last sale of a CC for $400). He hasn't answer my pm's since 4 days ago...now I understand why.
And he is a seller here as Red-Line?? Wow, what a community this GH is!
Post by: snoopy on Wed, 04 December 2013, 03:27:06
Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 04 December 2013, 03:28:47
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 04 December 2013, 03:42:46
I really start to wonder how many of those he had.... And how many are alredy traded for good/real stuff. We will see...
I, too, was wondering this, and how many are still in circulation, perhaps in the possession of people who do not know they are fake.
Post by: daetsid on Wed, 04 December 2013, 03:45:12
Wow you're really going to judge the integrity of the GH community because of this one incident? Logical.
Oh I didn't really mean it in a bad way...It just surprised me that this guy has its own subforum as a vendor and he has the guts to sell fake clacks... >:D
Post by: deSheol on Wed, 04 December 2013, 03:49:22
Wow you're really going to judge the integrity of the GH community because of this one incident? Logical.
Oh I didn't really mean it in a bad way...It just surprised me that this guy has its own subforum as a vendor and he has the guts to sell fake clacks... >:D
Who knew? He was just a seller, for all we know, someone in gh might actually be a serial killer, but is addicted to keyboards and selling stuff.
Not me tho.. :-\
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 04 December 2013, 07:06:20
for all we know, someone in gh might actually be a serial killer, but is addicted to keyboards
In that case, his weapon of choice would be a Model F.
Post by: Krogenar on Wed, 04 December 2013, 08:42:42
for all we know, someone in gh might actually be a serial killer, but is addicted to keyboards
In that case, his weapon of choice would be a Model F.
Do we know of anyone who specializes in Model F's? :-\ I vote that we all send our home addresses to fohat for evaluation. :D
I still think CF should mark each keycap and take a photo so that in the future people could authenticate the markings. Each one is a little work of art unto itself, why not treat them as such? Even if these fakes are obvious fakes, they're likely to get better -- especially if we show the forger exactly where they fell short. So with a unique marking on each and a photo you'll make it harder to mass produce a lot of fake CCs. Sure, you might be able to make one really good forgery, of a single one, but multiples of the same one (with the same markings) would set off some alarm bells.
It's not perfect, but it would be better than letting a forger prosper.
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 04 December 2013, 09:06:05
Haha, I'm sorry if my wall of text brought out some sort of insecurity that makes me seem like a 'pretentious ass' for giving reasons why the forum is falling apart and how it can be fixed. You don't agree or disagree with anyone at this point? Now THAT'S pretentious. You are everyone's best friend, am I right? (lol) Make up your mind and stop getting butthurt when someone with an intellectual response attempts to diagnose the issue.Insecurity? What are you talking about?
I don't disagree or agree with anyone since there is no way of knowing where this will lead, and not enough information has been presented in order to make an educated guess yet. I don't see how that is pretentious. On the other hand... Intellectual response? Diagnosing the issue? "Perhaps what I'm suggesting will go over the heads of many short-sighted users", etc. etc. Now THAT'S pretentious. Your post was nothing other than you making a guess about what will come of this situation, and you expressing what you believe to be the best way forward IF what you guessed what will come of this situation actually happens.
And I'm not mad/butthurt about anything, other than the fake clacks/the maker of the fake clacks. I'm not going to argue any more.
Post by: demik on Wed, 04 December 2013, 09:36:54
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 04 December 2013, 09:38:24
Oh my glob. How did this turn into a fight with each other? For once we all had a common enemy!
This is why its best to just hate everyone all the time, so much easier.
Post by: demik on Wed, 04 December 2013, 09:39:23
Oh my glob. How did this turn into a fight with each other? For once we all had a common enemy!
This is why its best to just hate everyone all the time, so much easier.
Preaching to the choir broham
Post by: IPT on Wed, 04 December 2013, 10:00:17
Post by: Krogenar on Wed, 04 December 2013, 10:39:04
Oh my glob. How did this turn into a fight with each other? For once we all had a common enemy!
This is why its best to just hate everyone all the time, so much easier.
Also faster.
Post by: Michael on Wed, 04 December 2013, 10:40:52
Oh my glob. How did this turn into a fight with each other? For once we all had a common enemy!
This is why its best to just hate everyone all the time, so much easier.
Also faster.
(http://i.imgur.com/RLiTPzo.gif)
Post by: Wildcard on Wed, 04 December 2013, 10:45:09
Oh my glob. How did this turn into a fight with each other? For once we all had a common enemy!
This is why its best to just hate everyone all the time, so much easier.
Preaching to the choir broham
Time to break out the Hulk keys
Post by: oTurtlez on Wed, 04 December 2013, 11:32:59
for all we know, someone in gh might actually be a serial killer, but is addicted to keyboards
In that case, his weapon of choice would be a Model F.
Do we know of anyone who specializes in Model F's? :-\ I vote that we all send our home addresses to fohat for evaluation. :D
I still think CF should mark each keycap and take a photo so that in the future people could authenticate the markings. Each one is a little work of art unto itself, why not treat them as such? Even if these fakes are obvious fakes, they're likely to get better -- especially if we show the forger exactly where they fell short. So with a unique marking on each and a photo you'll make it harder to mass produce a lot of fake CCs. Sure, you might be able to make one really good forgery, of a single one, but multiples of the same one (with the same markings) would set off some alarm bells.
It's not perfect, but it would be better than letting a forger prosper.
I read the thread, but not sure if this was posted down the line... Why not just add Certificates of Authenticity into the mix? For all future clacks, individually number them, and have a matching certificate to go along with them. Whenever the key changes hand, so does the certificate. CC could even get one of those paper stamps in the shape of a skull to mark it and authenticate the certificate lol. Just my $0.02
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 04 December 2013, 11:40:22
(http://i.imgur.com/sWFKtUL.jpg)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 04 December 2013, 11:41:36
Anyone seen megaxpop's signature? Photoshop, or fake clacks?
maybe both? :eek:
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 04 December 2013, 11:41:50
Anyone seen megaxpop's signature? Photoshop, or fake clacks?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sWFKtUL.jpg)
photoshop if you are serious
you got me if you are joking
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 04 December 2013, 11:42:22
Anyone seen megaxpop's signature? Photoshop, or fake clacks?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sWFKtUL.jpg)
Need bottom pics to know for sure...
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 04 December 2013, 11:43:16
Anyone seen megaxpop's signature? Photoshop, or fake clacks?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sWFKtUL.jpg)
Need bottom pics to know for sure...
they dont exist, its a photoshopped drunken skull
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 04 December 2013, 11:43:55
Anyone seen megaxpop's signature? Photoshop, or fake clacks?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sWFKtUL.jpg)
Need bottom pics to know for sure...
they dont exist, its a photoshopped drunken skull
Lol I know, was joking...
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 04 December 2013, 11:47:19
Anyone seen megaxpop's signature? Photoshop, or fake clacks?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sWFKtUL.jpg)
Need bottom pics to know for sure...
they dont exist, its a photoshopped drunken skull
Lol I know, was joking...
sorry, ive come to the point now that ive given up trying to work out who is joking and who isnt,
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 04 December 2013, 11:50:55
Anyone seen megaxpop's signature? Photoshop, or fake clacks?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sWFKtUL.jpg)
Need bottom pics to know for sure...
they dont exist, its a photoshopped drunken skull
Lol I know, was joking...
sorry, ive come to the point now that ive given up trying to work out who is joking and who isnt,
I hear ya...
Time to start hashtagging emotions in all my posts.
#sarcasm
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 04 December 2013, 11:52:54
Anyone seen megaxpop's signature? Photoshop, or fake clacks?
Need bottom pics to know for sure...
they dont exist, its a photoshopped drunken skull
Lol I know, was joking...
sorry, ive come to the point now that ive given up trying to work out who is joking and who isnt,
I hear ya...
Time to start hashtagging emotions in all my posts.
#sarcasm
perhaps you need that as a custom title :p
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 04 December 2013, 11:56:49
Anyone seen megaxpop's signature? Photoshop, or fake clacks?
Need bottom pics to know for sure...
they dont exist, its a photoshopped drunken skull
Lol I know, was joking...
sorry, ive come to the point now that ive given up trying to work out who is joking and who isnt,
I hear ya...
Time to start hashtagging emotions in all my posts.
#sarcasm
perhaps you need that as a custom title :p
Someone plz, make this happen.
For now I'll just put it as my personal text...
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 04 December 2013, 11:57:23
Anyone seen megaxpop's signature? Photoshop, or fake clacks?
Need bottom pics to know for sure...
they dont exist, its a photoshopped drunken skull
Lol I know, was joking...
sorry, ive come to the point now that ive given up trying to work out who is joking and who isnt,
I hear ya...
Time to start hashtagging emotions in all my posts.
#sarcasm
perhaps you need that as a custom title :p
Someone plz, make this happen.
For now I'll just put it as my personal text...
hashtag logic
Post by: Krogenar on Wed, 04 December 2013, 11:57:45
I read the thread, but not sure if this was posted down the line... Why not just add Certificates of Authenticity into the mix? For all future clacks, individually number them, and have a matching certificate to go along with them. Whenever the key changes hand, so does the certificate. CC could even get one of those paper stamps in the shape of a skull to mark it and authenticate the certificate lol. Just my $0.02
That wouldn't be a perfect solution -- but it would at least make life harder for the forger, or forgers. If a Classified post reads: "Clack for Sale, no certificate." ... that makes it that much easier for the buyer to beware. But forging a certificate is also possible (and probably easier than a keycap) but again, there's no perfect solution. What would be the least tedious solution for CF himself? I figure just an engraving on the bottom edge, dip it in ink, and then stamp the edge onto a certificate. They have to match, and each one is little bit different. But wow, tedious ****. Just flay forgers alive instead, but dammit they're not in NYC.
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 04 December 2013, 12:03:15
Time to start hashtagging emotions in all my posts.
#sarcasm
perhaps you need that as a custom title :p
Someone plz, make this happen.
For now I'll just put it as my personal text...
Wish granted
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 04 December 2013, 12:05:11
I read the thread, but not sure if this was posted down the line... Why not just add Certificates of Authenticity into the mix? For all future clacks, individually number them, and have a matching certificate to go along with them. Whenever the key changes hand, so does the certificate. CC could even get one of those paper stamps in the shape of a skull to mark it and authenticate the certificate lol. Just my $0.02
That wouldn't be a perfect solution -- but it would at least make life harder for the forger, or forgers. If a Classified post reads: "Clack for Sale, no certificate." ... that makes it that much easier for the buyer to beware. But forging a certificate is also possible (and probably easier than a keycap) but again, there's no perfect solution. What would be the least tedious solution for CF himself? I figure just an engraving on the bottom edge, dip it in ink, and then stamp the edge onto a certificate. They have to match, and each one is little bit different. But wow, tedious ****. Just flay forgers alive instead, but dammit they're not in NYC.
The easy solution would be for CC to just stop making clacks :eek:
Of course I hope he does not do this but who could blame him.
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 04 December 2013, 12:05:44
Wish granted
Thanks you sir!
The easy solution would be for CC to just stop making clacks :eek:
Of course I hope he does not do this but who could blame him.
If we keep fighting over them like this, then what reason does he have to continue making them? :o
I think it's time to break out the peace pipe...
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 04 December 2013, 12:12:28
Anyone seen megaxpop's signature? Photoshop, or fake clacks?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sWFKtUL.jpg)
Need bottom pics to know for sure...
they dont exist, its a photoshopped drunken skull
I must admit though, that does look amazing and I wish they all existed :) Not that I'd ever be able to get them all, but that would probably be the coolest Clack collection to display on a board.
Post by: deSheol on Wed, 04 December 2013, 12:20:56
Anyone seen megaxpop's signature? Photoshop, or fake clacks?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sWFKtUL.jpg)
Looks like fake ones eh?
Post by: yasuo on Wed, 04 December 2013, 12:23:21
Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 04 December 2013, 12:36:35
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg)Anyone seen megaxpop's signature? Photoshop, or fake clacks?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sWFKtUL.jpg)
Looks like fake ones eh?
Post by: duc_nckt on Wed, 04 December 2013, 12:46:14
Anyone seen megaxpop's signature? Photoshop, or fake clacks?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sWFKtUL.jpg)
No, it's photoshop. Just kidding. It stems from Druken Skull :D. He is a photographer
Post by: Moosecraft on Wed, 04 December 2013, 12:58:33
They look very nice though, maybe some inspiration for future clacks :thumb:Anyone seen megaxpop's signature? Photoshop, or fake clacks?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sWFKtUL.jpg)
No, it's photoshop. Just kidding. It stems from Druken Skull :D. He is a photographer
Post by: Michael on Wed, 04 December 2013, 20:08:17
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362)
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 04 December 2013, 20:10:04
Another (possible) victim:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362)
:eek:
Mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn what the hell....
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 04 December 2013, 20:10:15
Another (possible) victim:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362)
so its (possible) that people in Malaysia have fake CC's too?
Post by: germy on Wed, 04 December 2013, 20:13:32
Another (possible) victim:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362)
so its (possible) that people in Malaysia have fake CC's too?
Erm, I think anyone could have one anywhere in the world thanks to the wonders of the postal system.
Post by: kmiller8 on Wed, 04 December 2013, 20:16:46
Another (possible) victim:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362)
Read the OP of that thread, he has a green one, straight from EK, it's just on a very powerful blue LED.
Post by: neunelfer on Wed, 04 December 2013, 20:18:00
Another (possible) victim:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362)
That looks like a gummyrot to me.
For reference, here is mine on a blue led:
(http://i.imgur.com/6WcczZg.jpg)
Post by: dragonxx21 on Wed, 04 December 2013, 20:19:08
Another (possible) victim:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362)
Read the OP of that thread, he has a green one, straight from EK, it's just on a very powerful blue LED.
What. The person with the blue translucent fake CC =/= OP. He's (Bro Caps) saying the guy deciding to keep his "CC" has a fake one, not the poster.
Post by: Michael on Wed, 04 December 2013, 20:24:15
Another (possible) victim:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362)
Read the OP of that thread, he has a green one, straight from EK, it's just on a very powerful blue LED.
Except the OP of that thread isn't the person posting that photo :)
Post by: neunelfer on Wed, 04 December 2013, 20:24:29
Another (possible) victim:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362)
Read the OP of that thread, he has a green one, straight from EK, it's just on a very powerful blue LED.
What. The person with the blue translucent fake CC =/= OP. He's (Bro Caps) saying the guy deciding to keep his "CC" has a fake one, not the poster.
But the OP (Shadovved) was looking for the green translucent gummyrot specifically.
Post by: dragonxx21 on Wed, 04 December 2013, 20:26:23
Another (possible) victim:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362)
Read the OP of that thread, he has a green one, straight from EK, it's just on a very powerful blue LED.
What. The person with the blue translucent fake CC =/= OP. He's (Bro Caps) saying the guy deciding to keep his "CC" has a fake one, not the poster.
But the OP (Shadovved) was looking for the green translucent gummyrot specifically.
That's irrelevant... Bro Caps linked to a specific post which included a fake CC...
Post by: neunelfer on Wed, 04 December 2013, 20:28:19
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 04 December 2013, 20:28:55
Another (possible) victim:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362)
Read the OP of that thread, he has a green one, straight from EK, it's just on a very powerful blue LED.
What. The person with the blue translucent fake CC =/= OP. He's (Bro Caps) saying the guy deciding to keep his "CC" has a fake one, not the poster.
But the OP (Shadovved) was looking for the green translucent gummyrot specifically.
That's irrelevant... Bro Caps linked to a specific post which included a fake CC...
And you know it's fake how?
Look at the green on the bottom where that bright-ass blue LED isn't shining directly through.
Just a thought, maybe he meant the OP of the pic?
People need to think before they type more, ffs.
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 04 December 2013, 20:29:05
Another (possible) victim:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362)
Read the OP of that thread, he has a green one, straight from EK, it's just on a very powerful blue LED.
What. The person with the blue translucent fake CC =/= OP. He's (Bro Caps) saying the guy deciding to keep his "CC" has a fake one, not the poster.
But the OP (Shadovved) was looking for the green translucent gummyrot specifically.
That's irrelevant... Bro Caps linked to a specific post which included a fake CC...
Y'all are jumping to conclusions...
It's clearly a gummyrot skull on a blue LED, as was already pointed out. If you look at that pic you can see the green hue around the edges of the cap (the parts that are the least illuminated).
EDIT: tj kinda beat me to it, but yeah...
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 04 December 2013, 20:30:26
Another (possible) victim:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362)
Read the OP of that thread, he has a green one, straight from EK, it's just on a very powerful blue LED.
What. The person with the blue translucent fake CC =/= OP. He's (Bro Caps) saying the guy deciding to keep his "CC" has a fake one, not the poster.
But the OP (Shadovved) was looking for the green translucent gummyrot specifically.
That's irrelevant... Bro Caps linked to a specific post which included a fake CC...
Y'all are jumping to conclusions...
It's clearly a gummyrot skull on a blue LED, as was already pointed out. If you look at that pic you can see the green hue around the edges of the cap (the parts that are the least illuminated).
I think this thread has just de-volved into accusing all with a blue trans CC of having fakes.
Post by: dragonxx21 on Wed, 04 December 2013, 20:31:13
Another (possible) victim:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362)
Read the OP of that thread, he has a green one, straight from EK, it's just on a very powerful blue LED.
What. The person with the blue translucent fake CC =/= OP. He's (Bro Caps) saying the guy deciding to keep his "CC" has a fake one, not the poster.
But the OP (Shadovved) was looking for the green translucent gummyrot specifically.
That's irrelevant... Bro Caps linked to a specific post which included a fake CC...
Y'all are jumping to conclusions...
It's clearly a gummyrot skull on a blue LED, as was already pointed out. If you look at that pic you can see the green hue around the edges of the cap (the parts that are the least illuminated).
Yeah, you guys are right, I'm being an idiot. Thanks for pointing that out. The LED reaaally shines through.
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 04 December 2013, 20:32:19
Another (possible) victim:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51258.msg1129362#msg1129362)
Read the OP of that thread, he has a green one, straight from EK, it's just on a very powerful blue LED.
What. The person with the blue translucent fake CC =/= OP. He's (Bro Caps) saying the guy deciding to keep his "CC" has a fake one, not the poster.
But the OP (Shadovved) was looking for the green translucent gummyrot specifically.
That's irrelevant... Bro Caps linked to a specific post which included a fake CC...
Y'all are jumping to conclusions...
It's clearly a gummyrot skull on a blue LED, as was already pointed out. If you look at that pic you can see the green hue around the edges of the cap (the parts that are the least illuminated).
I think this thread has just de-volved into accusing all with a blue trans CC of having fakes.
Yup. Time to move on people. Find something else to rustle your jimmies...
Post by: Michael on Wed, 04 December 2013, 20:52:49
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 04 December 2013, 20:59:34
No need for rustled jimmies, now. It's kind of like when a string of murders happen in your neighborhood. You start suspecting everyone! :P
2013 McCarthyism - GeekHack Witch Trials?
If you're Asian, you're it!
If you're Asian, you're it!
:p I jest~
Post by: eth0s on Wed, 04 December 2013, 21:19:45
No need for rustled jimmies, now. It's kind of like when a string of murders happen in your neighborhood. You start suspecting everyone! :P
Yeah, during page 1 of this thread, I ran and checked all my Clacks. I actually started to sweat. Which is ridiculous. But true. Now I'm just glad I haven't been rooked by any fakes.
Post by: Kaysa on Wed, 04 December 2013, 22:52:07
It has a rectangular FXE Stamp on the back of it. I am making a video of the key on board, with LED on then switching on and of and different level of brightness of the LED,
and then taking it off and showing the back of the key of it… but my camera focus poorly…… you can see clearly there is marking on the back of the key,
just difficult to recognize the full characters.
(http://i.imgur.com/0CIlCT2.jpg)
Will post the link of the video, if anyone are interested, may see the video, it's around 100mb, gonna take sometime with our local broadband service.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 04 December 2013, 23:47:31
No need for rustled jimmies, now. It's kind of like when a string of murders happen in your neighborhood. You start suspecting everyone! :P
Yeah, during page 1 of this thread, I ran and checked all my Clacks. I actually started to sweat. Which is ridiculous. But true. Now I'm just glad I haven't been rooked by any fakes.
YET.....there's always the next time you buy something....or the time after that.....:eek:
Post by: dustinhxc on Thu, 05 December 2013, 00:12:00
Post by: iri on Thu, 05 December 2013, 02:30:50
If you're Asian, you're it!korean or asian!
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Thu, 05 December 2013, 04:56:00
I'm pretty spooked too. I mean I was always kind of a paranoid person, but this is the last straw. During page 1 of this thread, I ran and had all of my children and living relatives DNA tested to make sure that they're actually related to me and not part of some conspiracy. I've been standing out on the curb all morning throwing rocks into the air to make sure the sky actually exists and isn't some kind of force-field or large projection. Pedestrians think I'm crazy but they could easily be in on it. As far as I'm concerned you're all suspects.No need for rustled jimmies, now. It's kind of like when a string of murders happen in your neighborhood. You start suspecting everyone! :P
Yeah, during page 1 of this thread, I ran and checked all my Clacks. I actually started to sweat. Which is ridiculous. But true. Now I'm just glad I haven't been rooked by any fakes.
Post by: dustinhxc on Thu, 05 December 2013, 04:58:45
I'm pretty spooked too. I mean I was always kind of a paranoid person, but this is the last straw. During page 1 of this thread, I ran and had all of my children and living relatives DNA tested to make sure that they're actually related to me and not part of some conspiracy. I've been standing out on the curb all morning throwing rocks into the air to make sure the sky actually exists and isn't some kind of force-field or large projection. Pedestrians think I'm crazy but they could easily be in on it. As far as I'm concerned you're all suspects.No need for rustled jimmies, now. It's kind of like when a string of murders happen in your neighborhood. You start suspecting everyone! :P
Yeah, during page 1 of this thread, I ran and checked all my Clacks. I actually started to sweat. Which is ridiculous. But true. Now I'm just glad I haven't been rooked by any fakes.
lmao :rolleyes:
Post by: iri on Thu, 05 December 2013, 06:05:12
:)) :thumb:I'm pretty spooked too. I mean I was always kind of a paranoid person, but this is the last straw. During page 1 of this thread, I ran and had all of my children and living relatives DNA tested to make sure that they're actually related to me and not part of some conspiracy. I've been standing out on the curb all morning throwing rocks into the air to make sure the sky actually exists and isn't some kind of force-field or large projection. Pedestrians think I'm crazy but they could easily be in on it. As far as I'm concerned you're all suspects.No need for rustled jimmies, now. It's kind of like when a string of murders happen in your neighborhood. You start suspecting everyone! :P
Yeah, during page 1 of this thread, I ran and checked all my Clacks. I actually started to sweat. Which is ridiculous. But true. Now I'm just glad I haven't been rooked by any fakes.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 05 December 2013, 06:33:15
I'm pretty spooked too. I mean I was always kind of a paranoid person, but this is the last straw. During page 1 of this thread, I ran and had all of my children and living relatives DNA tested to make sure that they're actually related to me and not part of some conspiracy. I've been standing out on the curb all morning throwing rocks into the air to make sure the sky actually exists and isn't some kind of force-field or large projection. Pedestrians think I'm crazy but they could easily be in on it. As far as I'm concerned you're all suspects.No need for rustled jimmies, now. It's kind of like when a string of murders happen in your neighborhood. You start suspecting everyone! :P
Yeah, during page 1 of this thread, I ran and checked all my Clacks. I actually started to sweat. Which is ridiculous. But true. Now I'm just glad I haven't been rooked by any fakes.
I think it was you :P :D
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 05 December 2013, 13:10:07
I'm pretty spooked too. I mean I was always kind of a paranoid person, but this is the last straw. During page 1 of this thread, I ran and had all of my children and living relatives DNA tested to make sure that they're actually related to me and not part of some conspiracy. I've been standing out on the curb all morning throwing rocks into the air to make sure the sky actually exists and isn't some kind of force-field or large projection. Pedestrians think I'm crazy but they could easily be in on it. As far as I'm concerned you're all suspects.No need for rustled jimmies, now. It's kind of like when a string of murders happen in your neighborhood. You start suspecting everyone! :P
Yeah, during page 1 of this thread, I ran and checked all my Clacks. I actually started to sweat. Which is ridiculous. But true. Now I'm just glad I haven't been rooked by any fakes.
And did all of the rocks come back down?
Is gravity still working as it should, or have they adjusted it?
Post by: Binge on Thu, 05 December 2013, 13:26:40
Post by: Moosecraft on Thu, 05 December 2013, 14:08:25
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 05 December 2013, 14:25:34
Are clacks even real?
(http://i.imgur.com/EpeYLaZ.png)
Post by: MKULTRA on Thu, 05 December 2013, 14:29:47
Funniest thing I've read all dayAre clacks even real?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EpeYLaZ.png)
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 05 December 2013, 16:08:23
[attachimg=2]Are clacks even real?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EpeYLaZ.png)
Post by: redskull on Fri, 06 December 2013, 09:46:57
dang, made my day today. ;DAre clacks even real?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EpeYLaZ.png)
Post by: snoopy on Fri, 06 December 2013, 09:56:36
I'm pretty spooked too. I mean I was always kind of a paranoid person, but this is the last straw. During page 1 of this thread, I ran and had all of my children and living relatives DNA tested to make sure that they're actually related to me and not part of some conspiracy. I've been standing out on the curb all morning throwing rocks into the air to make sure the sky actually exists and isn't some kind of force-field or large projection. Pedestrians think I'm crazy but they could easily be in on it. As far as I'm concerned you're all suspects.No need for rustled jimmies, now. It's kind of like when a string of murders happen in your neighborhood. You start suspecting everyone! :P
Yeah, during page 1 of this thread, I ran and checked all my Clacks. I actually started to sweat. Which is ridiculous. But true. Now I'm just glad I haven't been rooked by any fakes.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9rfucneQe1rqa4z1o1_500.gif)
Post by: MKULTRA on Fri, 06 December 2013, 21:04:23
i got your package just now.
i'll return at monday.
and i'll let you know ems no.
thx and sry again.
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 06 December 2013, 21:26:19
Update for anyone who cares :D :D :Di got your package just now.
i'll return at monday.
and i'll let you know ems no.
thx and sry again.
It's good he's recognizing his error and making it all right. It definitely restores a lot of confidence. Hopefully he continues instead of disappearing like it sounded like he would do after all this is made right and concluded.
I still have my issues with the whole situation, but it's good to see responsibility being taken and things made right, unlike some other crazy situations that have happened on here.
Post by: MKULTRA on Fri, 06 December 2013, 21:30:03
My thoughts exactlyUpdate for anyone who cares :D :D :Di got your package just now.
i'll return at monday.
and i'll let you know ems no.
thx and sry again.
It's good he's recognizing his error and making it all right. It definitely restores a lot of confidence. Hopefully he continues instead of disappearing like it sounded like he would do after all this is made right and concluded.
I still have my issues with the whole situation, but it's good to see responsibility being taken and things made right, unlike some other crazy situations that have happened on here.
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Mon, 09 December 2013, 16:54:11
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 09 December 2013, 17:02:40
Anything new in the scandal?
I've noticed that pretty much all Classified threads for CCs now include bottom pics.
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 09 December 2013, 18:27:12
Anything new in the scandal?Got my tracking number. Idk about anyone else I PMed Bunny to see whats up
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 09 December 2013, 20:11:27
if that's the case, should we start to worry about that DSA DOLCH REPLICA GB...?
I've been concerned about it for a while now.
I have been also. this among a few other threads about druger have forced me to give refunds to quite a few people.
I can not have my groupbuy without the primary dsa dolch group buy.
I will give him until the end of december and if I have not seen a post from druger that communicates wtf is going on I am cancelling my dsa extras group buy and starting refunds.
Post by: Glod on Tue, 10 December 2013, 21:16:12
if that's the case, should we start to worry about that DSA DOLCH REPLICA GB...?
I've been concerned about it for a while now.
I have been also. this among a few other threads about druger have forced me to give refunds to quite a few people.
I can not have my groupbuy without the primary dsa dolch group buy.
I will give him until the end of december and if I have not seen a post from druger that communicates wtf is going on I am cancelling my dsa extras group buy and starting refunds.
Damn that makes me so sad, i had a Special GH60 planned that was kind of depending on DSA Dolch and things in the kit 5 of your group buy, mostly the ISO kit.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 10 December 2013, 21:37:52
if that's the case, should we start to worry about that DSA DOLCH REPLICA GB...?
I've been concerned about it for a while now.
I have been also. this among a few other threads about druger have forced me to give refunds to quite a few people.
I can not have my groupbuy without the primary dsa dolch group buy.
I will give him until the end of december and if I have not seen a post from druger that communicates wtf is going on I am cancelling my dsa extras group buy and starting refunds.
he posted a post in the dsa dolch thread but it wasn't much
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 10 December 2013, 23:29:50
if that's the case, should we start to worry about that DSA DOLCH REPLICA GB...?
I've been concerned about it for a while now.
I have been also. this among a few other threads about druger have forced me to give refunds to quite a few people.
I can not have my groupbuy without the primary dsa dolch group buy.
I will give him until the end of december and if I have not seen a post from druger that communicates wtf is going on I am cancelling my dsa extras group buy and starting refunds.
he posted a post in the dsa dolch thread but it wasn't much
Yeah I saw that. Is boost still part of team redline? He should help them communicate to us.
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 11 December 2013, 08:01:19
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 11 December 2013, 08:02:06
I got my items back that I traded for the fake clack. Of course, I'm still out the shipping costs and the cost of shipping the fake to CC. Even though he returned my items quickly I'm not particularly happy. He knew they were fake, anyone with half a brain would know. Are we just going to let it slide?
glad you got your stuff back sir
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 11 December 2013, 08:05:01
I got my items back that I traded for the fake clack. Of course, I'm still out the shipping costs and the cost of shipping the fake to CC. Even though he returned my items quickly I'm not particularly happy. He knew they were fake, anyone with half a brain would know. Are we just going to let it slide?
It's not like they are going to just ban him from the forum....they like those korean customs too much....
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 11 December 2013, 08:10:04
I got my items back that I traded for the fake clack. Of course, I'm still out the shipping costs and the cost of shipping the fake to CC. Even though he returned my items quickly I'm not particularly happy. He knew they were fake, anyone with half a brain would know. Are we just going to let it slide?
It's not like they are going to just ban him from the forum....they like those korean customs too much....
He did say he's stepping away from RL. Not a particularly fair reply anyway.
Post by: terran5992 on Tue, 17 December 2013, 02:40:48
Post by: bueller on Tue, 17 December 2013, 02:46:50
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 17 December 2013, 03:46:11
Post by: bueller on Tue, 17 December 2013, 22:30:58
From what I seem to recall there was only one or two people involved, although there was some question as to whether that person (one in particular) was directly responsible, a knowing second party, or an unknowing third party.
Yeah I just thought that there would be a little bit more effort made to figure out who is actually making them, I know DrugER has appeased everybody but that doesn't mean the culprit who masterminded the counterfeits is just going to shut up shop.
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 17 December 2013, 22:47:49
From what I seem to recall there was only one or two people involved, although there was some question as to whether that person (one in particular) was directly responsible, a knowing second party, or an unknowing third party.
Yeah I just thought that there would be a little bit more effort made to figure out who is actually making them, I know DrugER has appeased everybody but that doesn't mean the culprit who masterminded the counterfeits is just going to shut up shop.
Probably working out how to get the mark on the back of the keycaps too.
People - what a bunch of bastards!
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 18 December 2013, 09:23:02
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 18 December 2013, 11:50:53
From what I seem to recall there was only one or two people involved, although there was some question as to whether that person (one in particular) was directly responsible, a knowing second party, or an unknowing third party.
Yeah I just thought that there would be a little bit more effort made to figure out who is actually making them, I know DrugER has appeased everybody but that doesn't mean the culprit who masterminded the counterfeits is just going to shut up shop.
Probably working out how to get the mark on the back of the keycaps too.
People - what a bunch of bastards!
I guarantee you, this is what they are doing right now.
I hope CC is taking action just like BB says he will if anyone try's this bull**** with his beautiful artwork.
Post by: HipsterPunks on Sun, 22 December 2013, 06:38:35
*edit found the imgur link. http://imgur.com/a/ktOfn#0
Edit Confirmed fake
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 22 December 2013, 06:40:43
An solid red/pink mx skull clack was posted in /r/mechmarket last night. OP was asking for $100, he only had pictures of the top. A couple people requested bottom shots (that is fun to say) so OP took pictures and unfortunately their was no CF or FXE markings, but wierd blue drops on the under side walls. I wish I grabbed a pic before he deleted his post, but was on my phone. Seems like more than just trans are being copied :/There is an FXE marking there..
*edit found the imgur link. http://imgur.com/a/ktOfn#0
Post by: Moosecraft on Sun, 22 December 2013, 06:41:34
An solid red/pink mx skull clack was posted in /r/mechmarket last night. OP was asking for $100, he only had pictures of the top. A couple people requested bottom shots (that is fun to say) so OP took pictures and unfortunately their was no CF or FXE markings, but wierd blue drops on the under side walls. I wish I grabbed a pic before he deleted his post, but was on my phone. Seems like more than just trans are being copied :/There is an fxe marking..
*edit found the imgur link. http://imgur.com/a/ktOfn#0
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 22 December 2013, 13:23:48
An solid red/pink mx skull clack was posted in /r/mechmarket last night. OP was asking for $100, he only had pictures of the top. A couple people requested bottom shots (that is fun to say) so OP took pictures and unfortunately their was no CF or FXE markings, but wierd blue drops on the under side walls. I wish I grabbed a pic before he deleted his post, but was on my phone. Seems like more than just trans are being copied :/There is an FXE marking there..
*edit found the imgur link. http://imgur.com/a/ktOfn#0
There is, but I'd have to still stick with it looking like a fake. Look at this pic (http://i.imgur.com/0WwdYwb.jpg). You can clearly see a line on the cap. Lines like that are sometimes seen in molds if they're made a little wrong. Then when you look closely at the bottom (http://i.imgur.com/nBHlSeK.jpg), it looks like it has a couple of bubbles that were filled with something blue or that it has parts of an Oomoo mold stuck in it. It could be real, but something just looks off on it to me.
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 22 December 2013, 13:32:12
Strangee..
Post by: Halverson on Sun, 22 December 2013, 13:35:42
An solid red/pink mx skull clack was posted in /r/mechmarket last night. OP was asking for $100, he only had pictures of the top. A couple people requested bottom shots (that is fun to say) so OP took pictures and unfortunately their was no CF or FXE markings, but wierd blue drops on the under side walls. I wish I grabbed a pic before he deleted his post, but was on my phone. Seems like more than just trans are being copied :/There is an FXE marking there..
*edit found the imgur link. http://imgur.com/a/ktOfn#0
There is, but I'd have to still stick with it looking like a fake. Look at this pic (http://i.imgur.com/0WwdYwb.jpg). You can clearly see a line on the cap. Lines like that are sometimes seen in molds if they're made a little wrong. Then when you look closely at the bottom (http://i.imgur.com/nBHlSeK.jpg), it looks like it has a couple of bubbles that were filled with something blue or that it has parts of an Oomoo mold stuck in it. It could be real, but something just looks off on it to me.
I don't even recall ever seeing a colour like that either. Perhaps it's an early prototype CC made, although I don't know if he would even do something as ugly as filling bubbles with a different colour....
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 22 December 2013, 13:35:51
Post by: keymaster on Sun, 22 December 2013, 13:38:54
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 22 December 2013, 13:50:01
Looks legit. Other than the FXE logo, the corners (in the bottom pic) are rounded.
That's incredibly easy to copy though, just mold the underside of the cap, not just the top.
Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 22 December 2013, 13:50:33
Post by: kmiller8 on Sun, 22 December 2013, 13:50:53
That's incredibly easy to copy though, just mold the underside of the cap, not just the top.
hmm... and how would you know so much about copying caps? :))
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 22 December 2013, 13:52:58
I remember someone who was selling/sold a clack here not too long ago with a bunch of blue gunk on the bottom of it, I really wish I could remember who though.
that was different, it was a 3d, and it was legit, it was just stained, it wasnt filler
Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 22 December 2013, 14:02:28
Ok, I couldn't remember exactly what it was.I remember someone who was selling/sold a clack here not too long ago with a bunch of blue gunk on the bottom of it, I really wish I could remember who though.
that was different, it was a 3d, and it was legit, it was just stained, it wasnt filler
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 22 December 2013, 14:04:23
That's incredibly easy to copy though, just mold the underside of the cap, not just the top.
hmm... and how would you know so much about copying caps? :))
I've been found out! Well, there goes my chance to "discover" a bunch of "lost" and previously unknown Clacks and make a killing. Back to my own designs. Damn.
Post by: eth0s on Sun, 22 December 2013, 14:08:57
An solid red/pink mx skull clack was posted in /r/mechmarket last night. OP was asking for $100, he only had pictures of the top. A couple people requested bottom shots (that is fun to say) so OP took pictures and unfortunately their was no CF or FXE markings, but wierd blue drops on the under side walls. I wish I grabbed a pic before he deleted his post, but was on my phone. Seems like more than just trans are being copied :/There is an FXE marking there..
*edit found the imgur link. http://imgur.com/a/ktOfn#0
There is, but I'd have to still stick with it looking like a fake. Look at this pic (http://i.imgur.com/0WwdYwb.jpg). You can clearly see a line on the cap. Lines like that are sometimes seen in molds if they're made a little wrong. Then when you look closely at the bottom (http://i.imgur.com/nBHlSeK.jpg), it looks like it has a couple of bubbles that were filled with something blue or that it has parts of an Oomoo mold stuck in it. It could be real, but something just looks off on it to me.
EDIT: THAT CLACK IS FAKE BECAUSE CC SAID SO.
Oh well, I was fooled by a photo. CC wasn't though.
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 22 December 2013, 14:24:24
An solid red/pink mx skull clack was posted in /r/mechmarket last night. OP was asking for $100, he only had pictures of the top. A couple people requested bottom shots (that is fun to say) so OP took pictures and unfortunately their was no CF or FXE markings, but wierd blue drops on the under side walls. I wish I grabbed a pic before he deleted his post, but was on my phone. Seems like more than just trans are being copied :/There is an FXE marking there..
*edit found the imgur link. http://imgur.com/a/ktOfn#0
There is, but I'd have to still stick with it looking like a fake. Look at this pic (http://i.imgur.com/0WwdYwb.jpg). You can clearly see a line on the cap. Lines like that are sometimes seen in molds if they're made a little wrong. Then when you look closely at the bottom (http://i.imgur.com/nBHlSeK.jpg), it looks like it has a couple of bubbles that were filled with something blue or that it has parts of an Oomoo mold stuck in it. It could be real, but something just looks off on it to me.
That Clack looks real to me. More imperfections militates towards authenticity. The older the Clack is, and the more it's been passed around, the more it should show signs of wear, and changing hands. So those blue marks on the bottom give me greater comfort that it's real, than fake. Also many real Clacks have tiny imperfections, and those blue marks could have been made by CC himself. (Maybe they are remnants of a gnome sneeze?) Anyway, all real Clacks should look hand-made, not machine made. Those Korean counterfeit Clacks seemed too good, like they were stamped out by a machine, which they probably were.
Also that color looks to me like plain old Revenge Red in bad lighting. It has the slightly bluish tone of Revenge Red. I don't think it's mysterious at all. And finally it has a very realistic looking FXE mark on the bottom. CC really should have done a letter-code for the year of production and another letter or number code for the color as well, so we could match the color to the year it was made, for another indicia of authenticity. Also CC should have added a trademark symbol or some other design that is harder to fake than the letters FXE. But w/e, who knew Clacks would someday be worth $400 for one?
I matched it to my mr. friday and the FXE has the same margins from the box and everything. But the carved edges do make it look more legit.
Post by: clickclack on Mon, 23 December 2013, 16:58:12
Just an F.Y.I.-
Gnome sneezes are more creative and of higher quality. I couldn't even accidently make a copy that bad. ;)
I have tracked down all of my translucent blue keys made and I believe I've identified nearly all of them.
All dark translucent blue keys in circulation can now be identified as fake unless you got an email/PM from me saying otherwise.
Many (i'm still identifying a few) lighter blue translucent ClackFactory keys are fake as well.
This is no easy task given online communication. I have spent tons of money and tons of time at this point trying to in part
rectify some of these issues. Sady this has effectively canceled the two December sales I was eager to do and possibly the January one. It has caused and exacerbated other issues as well.
So once again we have an illustration on how ignorant and/or malicious acts mess things up for everyone.
Being able to cheaply copy something in this arena isn't a rocket science achievement by itself. It's a "pat yourself on the back thing when no ones looking" sort of achievement.
LuLz =P
Remember folks, copying is very cheap and easy and can cause significant damage.
Creating and exploring is hard, often very hard, but promotes growth.
So yup! There ya go.
-cc out!
=)
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 23 December 2013, 17:02:35
The pink skull key with the blue crap on the bottom is a FAKE. Too many problems to bother listing. Essentially it just looks like someone made a sad copy of my work then made another sad copy off of that key. The result is a sad fake key. Come on guys, you know me better than that.
Just an F.Y.I.-
Gnome sneezes are more creative and of higher quality. I couldn't even accidently make a copy that bad. ;)
I have tracked down all of my translucent blue keys made and I believe I've identified nearly all of them.
All dark translucent blue keys in circulation can now be identified as fake unless you got an email/PM from me saying otherwise.
Many (i'm still identifying a few) lighter blue translucent ClackFactory keys are fake as well.
This is no easy task given online communication. I have spent tons of money and tons of time at this point trying to in part
rectify some of these issues. Sady this has effectively canceled the two December sales I was eager to do and possibly the January one. It has caused and exacerbated other issues as well.
So once again we have an illustration on how ignorant and/or malicious acts mess things up for everyone.
Being able to cheaply copy something in this arena isn't a rocket science achievement by itself. It's a "pat yourself on the back thing when no ones looking" sort of achievement.
LuLz =P
Remember folks, copying is very cheap and easy and can cause significant damage.
Creating and exploring is hard, often very hard, but promotes growth.
So yup! There ya go.
-cc out!
=)
That's terrible that you've had to spend so much time (and finances) straightening everything out and possibly even sending replacements. The small consolation is that you have another proof of how popular your caps are. Sad for everyone about the missed December sales :( Thank you for checking in!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 23 December 2013, 17:03:17
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 23 December 2013, 17:06:41
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 23 December 2013, 17:09:28
This just shows how lazy this person is.
edited tapatalk typos...
Post by: snoopy on Mon, 23 December 2013, 17:19:20
I still wonder if the real origin (the maker, not the dealer) from those fakes has been discovered.
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 23 December 2013, 17:21:01
Sad to hear about all that trouble and also about the canceled sales. :(I don't imagine their reasoning would have been to hurt CC but it surely has and that is disappointing.
I still wonder if the real origin (the maker, not the dealer) from those fakes has been discovered.
Post by: kenmai9 on Mon, 23 December 2013, 17:21:35
The pink skull key with the blue crap on the bottom is a FAKE. Too many problems to bother listing. Essentially it just looks like someone made a sad copy of my work then made another sad copy off of that key. The result is a sad fake key. Come on guys, you know me better than that.
Just an F.Y.I.-
Gnome sneezes are more creative and of higher quality. I couldn't even accidently make a copy that bad. ;)
I have tracked down all of my translucent blue keys made and I believe I've identified nearly all of them.
All dark translucent blue keys in circulation can now be identified as fake unless you got an email/PM from me saying otherwise.
Many (i'm still identifying a few) lighter blue translucent ClackFactory keys are fake as well.
This is no easy task given online communication. I have spent tons of money and tons of time at this point trying to in part
rectify some of these issues. Sady this has effectively canceled the two December sales I was eager to do and possibly the January one. It has caused and exacerbated other issues as well.
So once again we have an illustration on how ignorant and/or malicious acts mess things up for everyone.
Being able to cheaply copy something in this arena isn't a rocket science achievement by itself. It's a "pat yourself on the back thing when no ones looking" sort of achievement.
LuLz =P
Remember folks, copying is very cheap and easy and can cause significant damage.
Creating and exploring is hard, often very hard, but promotes growth.
So yup! There ya go.
-cc out!
=)
Ooops I almost bought it from that slicon guy! What a douche :(
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 23 December 2013, 17:23:25
Too bad about the cancelled sales, though. I might've wanted one or 2.
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 23 December 2013, 17:54:02
The pink skull key with the blue crap on the bottom is a FAKE. Too many problems to bother listing. Essentially it just looks like someone made a sad copy of my work then made another sad copy off of that key. The result is a sad fake key. Come on guys, you know me better than that.
Just an F.Y.I.-
Gnome sneezes are more creative and of higher quality. I couldn't even accidently make a copy that bad. ;)
I have tracked down all of my translucent blue keys made and I believe I've identified nearly all of them.
All dark translucent blue keys in circulation can now be identified as fake unless you got an email/PM from me saying otherwise.
Many (i'm still identifying a few) lighter blue translucent ClackFactory keys are fake as well.
This is no easy task given online communication. I have spent tons of money and tons of time at this point trying to in part
rectify some of these issues. Sady this has effectively canceled the two December sales I was eager to do and possibly the January one. It has caused and exacerbated other issues as well.
So once again we have an illustration on how ignorant and/or malicious acts mess things up for everyone.
Being able to cheaply copy something in this arena isn't a rocket science achievement by itself. It's a "pat yourself on the back thing when no ones looking" sort of achievement.
LuLz =P
Remember folks, copying is very cheap and easy and can cause significant damage.
Creating and exploring is hard, often very hard, but promotes growth.
So yup! There ya go.
-cc out!
=)
Oh wow CC! I am so glad you are taking action, these lowlifes are so pathetic to try and copy a master artist in the field.. I still cant believe these people. I knew that cap was a fake it looked like ****. Cant believe they are molding the bottoms now too.. That really sucks. Sorry you had to spend all these resources to try and take care of things. A December or January sale would have been amazing but this is more important. Good luck sir. Also OP good find on this cap, keep a look out!
Post by: YoungMichael88 on Mon, 23 December 2013, 17:57:11
Post by: kmiller8 on Mon, 23 December 2013, 18:00:47
Well there you have it, the bottom of the cap has been copied. I realize this one was done poorly but it's all downhill from here fellas. I feel bad for CC and all the other legitimate people who love his work. I hope things get better but it's obviously not headed in that direction. Thank you so very much fake clack maker, I hope you get a lump of **** under your Christmas tree this year.
Hopefully this will kill the second hand market entirely.
RIP in peace $100 clacks
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 23 December 2013, 18:00:49
Well there you have it, the bottom of the cap has been copied. I realize this one was done poorly but it's all downhill from here fellas. I feel bad for CC and all the other legitimate people who love his work. I hope things get better but it's obviously not headed in that direction. Thank you so very much fake clack maker, I hope you get a lump of **** under your Christmas tree this year.I hope they get a lump of **** in their coffee DAILY.
Well I guess I will keep all of my clacks for good so I dont get any fakes.. I know theyre all hand made by CC himself ;)
I wonder if this loser has copied the Topre stem..
Post by: YoungMichael88 on Mon, 23 December 2013, 18:05:48
Post by: kmiller8 on Mon, 23 December 2013, 18:07:12
This marks the beginning of the death of the clack if you ask me. I can't see this being too enjoyable for CC anymore. I don't blame him for canceling sales and I would totally understand if he stopped making caps all together.
I'd say death of the skull. We all know CC has plenty of other designs he's hoarding.
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 23 December 2013, 18:08:59
Heres the big question.. What do you think the designs were for December and January? ;D Some amazing christmas, winter, or snowy themed clacks? oh boy...
I really hope the seller of that red "pink" skull has been taken care of..
Post by: YoungMichael88 on Mon, 23 December 2013, 18:15:45
Man, if Skulls were note made anymore and there were fakes out there. People with original skulls would never let them go and prices would sky rocket for those. Id love to see his other designs. The Ogre is badass.That could go either way I think. If the fakes become too hard to tell apart from originals they could become worthless. Sure, we could tell there was something off about the recent fakes but unfortunately that gap in quality/similarity is closing.
Heres the big question.. What do you think the designs were for December and January? ;D Some amazing christmas themed clacks? oh boy...
Post by: YoungMichael88 on Mon, 23 December 2013, 18:17:20
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 23 December 2013, 18:19:12
Man, if Skulls were note made anymore and there were fakes out there. People with original skulls would never let them go and prices would sky rocket for those. Id love to see his other designs. The Ogre is badass.That could go either way I think. If the fakes become too hard to tell apart from originals they could become worthless. Sure, we could tell there was something off about the recent fakes but unfortunately that gap in quality/similarity is closing.
Heres the big question.. What do you think the designs were for December and January? ;D Some amazing christmas themed clacks? oh boy...
Yes that is what I am saying as well, the well known owners. ethos, Bunny, Zenuty, Cactux, me now lol would obviously have a nice sized collection of originals. So as long as they kept any newly aquired clacks on a seperate list. Theyd be 100% on the others they had previous. But yes just buying/trading from anyone else it would be worthless if they look identical.
But also if CC had sales we would obviously know those were real as well. Or EK.
For now on I will have to get back stories. What user did you get it from and how long ago. etc etc. I dont desire ANY fakes one bit. Disgusting jokes made by low lifes..
Post by: Moosecraft on Mon, 23 December 2013, 18:19:32
Post by: Blusey on Mon, 23 December 2013, 18:40:12
Post by: kenmai9 on Mon, 23 December 2013, 18:48:19
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 23 December 2013, 19:03:31
I don't think they've faked two color clacks yet, have they? So there's still those
Shhhhhhhh they might have forgotten about those!
Post by: eth0s on Mon, 23 December 2013, 19:15:01
The pink skull key with the blue crap on the bottom is a FAKE. Too many problems to bother listing. Essentially it just looks like someone made a sad copy of my work then made another sad copy off of that key. The result is a sad fake key. Come on guys, you know me better than that.
Just an F.Y.I.-
Gnome sneezes are more creative and of higher quality. I couldn't even accidently make a copy that bad. ;)
I have tracked down all of my translucent blue keys made and I believe I've identified nearly all of them.
All dark translucent blue keys in circulation can now be identified as fake unless you got an email/PM from me saying otherwise.
Many (i'm still identifying a few) lighter blue translucent ClackFactory keys are fake as well.
This is no easy task given online communication. I have spent tons of money and tons of time at this point trying to in part
rectify some of these issues. Sady this has effectively canceled the two December sales I was eager to do and possibly the January one. It has caused and exacerbated other issues as well.
So once again we have an illustration on how ignorant and/or malicious acts mess things up for everyone.
Being able to cheaply copy something in this arena isn't a rocket science achievement by itself. It's a "pat yourself on the back thing when no ones looking" sort of achievement.
LuLz =P
Remember folks, copying is very cheap and easy and can cause significant damage.
Creating and exploring is hard, often very hard, but promotes growth.
So yup! There ya go.
-cc out!
=)
Damn Counterfeiters!
lol @ gnome sneeze Clacks.
CC: if you make any gnome sneeze Clacks, I would love to buy one.
Post by: Dubsgalore on Mon, 23 December 2013, 19:34:41
Sneeze clacks would be rad lol
Post by: Lu_e on Mon, 23 December 2013, 19:53:25
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 23 December 2013, 19:57:41
MoreThe pink skull key with the blue crap on the bottom is a FAKE. Too many problems to bother listing. Essentially it just looks like someone made a sad copy of my work then made another sad copy off of that key. The result is a sad fake key. Come on guys, you know me better than that.
Just an F.Y.I.-
Gnome sneezes are more creative and of higher quality. I couldn't even accidently make a copy that bad. ;)
I have tracked down all of my translucent blue keys made and I believe I've identified nearly all of them.
All dark translucent blue keys in circulation can now be identified as fake unless you got an email/PM from me saying otherwise.
Many (i'm still identifying a few) lighter blue translucent ClackFactory keys are fake as well.
This is no easy task given online communication. I have spent tons of money and tons of time at this point trying to in part
rectify some of these issues. Sady this has effectively canceled the two December sales I was eager to do and possibly the January one. It has caused and exacerbated other issues as well.
So once again we have an illustration on how ignorant and/or malicious acts mess things up for everyone.
Being able to cheaply copy something in this arena isn't a rocket science achievement by itself. It's a "pat yourself on the back thing when no ones looking" sort of achievement.
LuLz =P
Remember folks, copying is very cheap and easy and can cause significant damage.
Creating and exploring is hard, often very hard, but promotes growth.
So yup! There ya go.
-cc out!
=)
Sad to see that confirmed that we have yet another fake clack. It really does have that photocopy of a photocopy look to it.
Good to see that you're getting all the fakes, but it's sad to see that that happened in the first place.
And it sucks that you've spent all that money combating this and likely can't litigate since they're not in the US. It's also sad that it's resulted in sales not happening. I know there are a ton of people, myself included, who love your work and are sad to see stuff like this happen.
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 23 December 2013, 20:12:51
It is really sad that a few (a very few, hopefully) people choose to make a profit from someone else's work in this way. For that is all it is - a short term profit that, now they have been found out, is no longer possible.
I can only hope that the speed with which this was detected, and CC's fast and comprehensive response, will deter anyone else from copying his work.
It is also encouraging that the GH community is 100% behind CC - it gives me hope that these events will not deter CC from his keyboard-related artistic pursuits.
All the best for the festive season, CC, and hopefully 2014 will be better and brighter :)
Post by: HipsterPunks on Mon, 23 December 2013, 20:28:27
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 23 December 2013, 20:55:06
I still really respect and love the skull design and I'd hate to see it go away.
I was really crossing my fingers on those glow caps :)
Post by: bueller on Mon, 23 December 2013, 21:01:10
I still really respect and love the skull design and I'd hate to see it go away.
Yeah I'd hate to see this affect production of the skulls, I haven't gotten my first yet!
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 23 December 2013, 21:02:34
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 23 December 2013, 21:06:42
Will clacks start coming with certificates of authenticity from the man himself? Possible business cards with serial numbers/watermarks? Glow in the dark FXE/CF markings? Can't let these thieves ruin a good thing/art. Or maybe FXE factory website might finally open (can dream can't i)
What would it matter if the FXE website was open??
Post by: fourzeropooh on Mon, 23 December 2013, 21:07:28
Will clacks start coming with certificates of authenticity from the man himself? Possible business cards with serial numbers/watermarks? Glow in the dark FXE/CF markings? Can't let these thieves ruin a good thing/art. Or maybe FXE factory website might finally open (can dream can't i)
What would it matter if the FXE website was open??
I think he just wants to see what's behind the clipboard.
Post by: HipsterPunks on Mon, 23 December 2013, 21:55:48
Will clacks start coming with certificates of authenticity from the man himself? Possible business cards with serial numbers/watermarks? Glow in the dark FXE/CF markings? Can't let these thieves ruin a good thing/art. Or maybe FXE factory website might finally open (can dream can't i)
What would it matter if the FXE website was open??
I have a willy wonka type fantasy about the clack factory :) need to see the
Post by: mnpikey on Wed, 01 January 2014, 08:36:17
Does Click Clack have a trademark on that exact logo? No? Too bad then...
Just as these are "fake" keycaps then so are any replica keysets from Signature or Originative. Fake Cherry sets, fake Dolch sets, etc, etc...
In that pic with the 3 keys, the fake or replica appears to be of higher quality.
Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 01 January 2014, 08:43:35
LOL at this whole thing. Its a keycap with a skull on it. Unless they are being advertised at "Click Clack" keycaps when they are being made by someone else, there is nothing wrong with it.You are EXTREMELY ignorant.
Does Click Clack have a trademark on that exact logo? No? Too bad then...
Just as these are "fake" keycaps then so are any replica keysets from Signature or Originative. Fake Cherry sets, fake Dolch sets, etc, etc...
In that pic with the 3 keys, the fake or replica appears to be of higher quality.
Post by: Tym on Wed, 01 January 2014, 08:44:10
And wrong, he holds copyright on the design.LOL at this whole thing. Its a keycap with a skull on it. Unless they are being advertised at "Click Clack" keycaps when they are being made by someone else, there is nothing wrong with it.You are EXTREMELY ignorant.
Does Click Clack have a trademark on that exact logo? No? Too bad then...
Just as these are "fake" keycaps then so are any replica keysets from Signature or Originative. Fake Cherry sets, fake Dolch sets, etc, etc...
In that pic with the 3 keys, the fake or replica appears to be of higher quality.
Post by: Saviant on Wed, 01 January 2014, 08:46:43
LOL at this whole thing. Its a keycap with a skull on it. Unless they are being advertised at "Click Clack" keycaps when they are being made by someone else, there is nothing wrong with it.
Does Click Clack have a trademark on that exact logo? No? Too bad then...
Just as these are "fake" keycaps then so are any replica keysets from Signature or Originative. Fake Cherry sets, fake Dolch sets, etc, etc...
In that pic with the 3 keys, the fake or replica appears to be of higher quality.
The point is CC spent allot of time making these caps and it hurts the artist/maker. The fake CCs were made to cash in and make large amount of cash off his work and to harm the community as a whole.
Post by: bueller on Wed, 01 January 2014, 08:49:12
LOL at this whole thing. Its a keycap with a skull on it. Unless they are being advertised at "Click Clack" keycaps when they are being made by someone else, there is nothing wrong with it.
Does Click Clack have a trademark on that exact logo? No? Too bad then...
Just as these are "fake" keycaps then so are any replica keysets from Signature or Originative. Fake Cherry sets, fake Dolch sets, etc, etc...
In that pic with the 3 keys, the fake or replica appears to be of higher quality.
Fake Cherry sets, what. GMK bought the rights to use all the Cherry tooling.
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 01 January 2014, 08:50:21
LOL at this whole thing. Its a keycap with a skull on it. Unless they are being advertised at "Click Clack" keycaps when they are being made by someone else, there is nothing wrong with it.:))
Does Click Clack have a trademark on that exact logo? No? Too bad then...
Just as these are "fake" keycaps then so are any replica keysets from Signature or Originative. Fake Cherry sets, fake Dolch sets, etc, etc...
In that pic with the 3 keys, the fake or replica appears to be of higher quality.
Post by: mnpikey on Wed, 01 January 2014, 08:54:27
Saying something is Dolch is just at fake as these replica click clacks if you say they are in fact Dolch but they weren't removed from a real Dolch keyboard. If they weren't, they are NOT Dolch.
Also, didn't Click Clack use copyrighted material to make Star Wars keys? Did he get permission from Lucs Licensing to do that?
Post by: mnpikey on Wed, 01 January 2014, 08:57:19
(http://i.imgur.com/6J9cu.jpg)
Post by: bueller on Wed, 01 January 2014, 08:58:02
Doesn't matter. Its not real a "cherry set" unless if came off a Cherry brand keyboard. And its not a real Dolch set unless it was removed from a Dolch keyboard.
Saying something is Dolch is just at fake as these replica click clacks if you say they are in fact Dolch but they weren't removed from a real Dolch keyboard. If they weren't, they are NOT Dolch.
Also, didn't Click Clack use copyrighted material to make Star Wars keys? Did he get permission from Lucs Licensing to do that?
You haven't got a clue how intellectual property rights work. Just stop.
Post by: mnpikey on Wed, 01 January 2014, 09:02:24
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 01 January 2014, 09:04:34
Doesn't matter. Its not real a "cherry set" unless if came off a Cherry brand keyboard. And its not a real Dolch set unless it was removed from a Dolch keyboard.This guy right here. Who said the Originative sets were 'real cherry sets'? They are not advertised as 'real cherry sets'. They are advertised as 'made by GMK/BSP with the original cherry moulds'.
Saying something is Dolch is just at fake as these replica click clacks if you say they are in fact Dolch but they weren't removed from a real Dolch keyboard. If they weren't, they are NOT Dolch.
Post by: bueller on Wed, 01 January 2014, 09:07:17
Like when Click Clack uses George Lucas's intellectual Property/creations to profit?
It doesn't work like that with handmade pieces like CC's, maybe if he was mass producing them they could do something but it's in a pretty grey area legally.
Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 01 January 2014, 09:12:09
Doesn't matter. Its not real a "cherry set" unless if came off a Cherry brand keyboard. And its not a real Dolch set unless it was removed from a Dolch keyboard.You're a riot
Saying something is Dolch is just at fake as these replica click clacks if you say they are in fact Dolch but they weren't removed from a real Dolch keyboard. If they weren't, they are NOT Dolch.
Also, didn't Click Clack use copyrighted material to make Star Wars keys? Did he get permission from Lucs Licensing to do that?
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 01 January 2014, 09:38:28
Like when Click Clack uses George Lucas's intellectual Property/creations to profit?
Hmmm you know that was just a limited run..? I think 2 were made? Idiot..
Post by: Danule on Wed, 01 January 2014, 10:05:43
Like when Click Clack uses George Lucas's intellectual Property/creations to profit?
the real question, is who made this troll account with only 6 posts?
:P
Post by: mnpikey on Wed, 01 January 2014, 10:46:13
Post by: IPT on Wed, 01 January 2014, 12:39:12
Like when Click Clack uses George Lucas's intellectual Property/creations to profit?
Hmmm you know that was just a limited run..? I think 2 were made? Idiot..
pretty sure there's more than 2 vaders caps in existence.
I mean I know there's at least 2 red ones since one was recently for sale, and ripster has one too
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 01 January 2014, 14:46:11
Doesn't matter. Its not real a "cherry set" unless if came off a Cherry brand keyboard. And its not a real Dolch set unless it was removed from a Dolch keyboard.
Saying something is Dolch is just at fake as these replica click clacks if you say they are in fact Dolch but they weren't removed from a real Dolch keyboard. If they weren't, they are NOT Dolch.
(http://i.imgur.com/ep4Fn18.gif)
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 01 January 2014, 14:56:19
Like when Click Clack uses George Lucas's intellectual Property/creations to profit?
the real question, is who made this troll account with only 6 posts?
:P
I have an idea ;)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 01 January 2014, 14:58:08
Like when Click Clack uses George Lucas's intellectual Property/creations to profit?
the real question, is who made this troll account with only 6 posts?
:P
I have an idea ;)
Don't hold out on us!
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 01 January 2014, 15:02:44
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 01 January 2014, 15:07:18
It's nothing dramatic, truly.
:(
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 01 January 2014, 15:35:02
Like when Click Clack uses George Lucas's intellectual Property/creations to profit?
Hmmm you know that was just a limited run..? I think 2 were made? Idiot..
2 reds
a bunch of black ones tho
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 01 January 2014, 15:57:31
I am sure this is going to be unpopular as hell view, but I really don't make a distinction either. Then perhaps this will be obvious since I have often stated I don't give any ****s about the concepts of intellectual property and I do Cherry replica dyesubs myself. Does this hurt the now legit holder of Cherry dyesubs - BSP? Quite possibly... but they don't allow the flexibility and they don't have all the key sizes that are most often demanded. So... I can say it's BSP own fault for loosing this money. Now, also many people believe that GMK is too inflexible so you went ahead and made derivative replica with SP. Does this hurt GMK... possibly... but you can blame them for it for not accommodating smaller MOQ for less popular colorways.
If one was to pump out 1000s of CC replicas I would give zero ****s as long as it was clearly stated replica. I really couldn't fault someone for filling a supply void where there is clearly opportunity there. If clack is unhappy with someone coming along and making replica... maybe they could do plebian clacks for everyone that wants them to own in small color selection and just pump them out for $3 each or whatever... do other limited edition ones as now for the patrician collector fiends. I will blame clack for creating the void in the supply in their own market.
I don't have a ****ing doublestandard because I see them as products just like any other keycaps. You can be mad at me if you want, but I think a bunch of people are being hypocrites.
However, I won't defend the actions that the original point of this discussion was, duping people by cheating and lying about what it is. If making a lie (replica) just have integrity to be honest that it's a phoney and all is well in my book!
Post by: longweight on Wed, 01 January 2014, 16:04:08
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 01 January 2014, 16:18:15
I am just so tired of seeing the bickering and whining about ****ing clacks so the gloves are coming off...
I am sure this is going to be unpopular as hell view, but I really don't make a distinction either. Then perhaps this will be obvious since I have often stated I don't give any ****s about the concepts of intellectual property and I do Cherry replica dyesubs myself. Does this hurt the now legit holder of Cherry dyesubs - BSP? Quite possibly... but they don't allow the flexibility and they don't have all the key sizes that are most often demanded. So... I can say it's BSP own fault for loosing this money. Now, also many people believe that GMK is too inflexible so you went ahead and made derivative replica with SP. Does this hurt GMK... possibly... but you can blame them for it for not accommodating smaller MOQ for less popular colorways.
If one was to pump out 1000s of CC replicas I would give zero ****s as long as it was clearly stated replica. I really couldn't fault someone for filling a supply void where there is clearly opportunity there. If clack is unhappy with someone coming along and making replica... maybe they could do plebian clacks for everyone that wants them to own in small color selection and just pump them out for $3 each or whatever... do other limited edition ones as now for the patrician collector fiends. I will blame clack for creating the void in the supply in their own market.
I don't have a ****ing doublestandard because I see them as products just like any other keycaps. You can be mad at me if you want, but I think a bunch of people are being hypocrites.
However, I won't defend the actions that the original point of this discussion was, duping people by cheating and lying about what it is. If making a lie (replica) just have integrity to be honest that it's a phoney and all is well in my book!
Some good points.
But Clacks are not mass-produced commercially available items, they are individual works of art, produced in small batches and sold via very limited channels.
I understand that it is not CC's intention to flood the market with these - he is simply an artist who has discovered an appreciative audience at GH for some of his work.
The biggest problems with the recent situation is that someone exactly copied his work without his permission, they were selling them as authentic, and were selling them at a huge premium apparently with the sole intention of making money.
Post by: tbc on Wed, 01 January 2014, 17:29:07
you'll find that among 'digital content' creators (just meaning non-physical artists), your view is actually very popular.
imitation IS the second greatest form of flattery in the digital media space (this is NOT just music and movies). the GREATEST form of flattery is to take someone's work and then improve it (such as a bug fix). all the matters is proper accreditation and respect.
I wonder if this view is shared amongst 'physical media' artists. based on this forum alone, that seems to NOT be the case at all.
Post by: HipsterPunks on Wed, 01 January 2014, 17:49:28
Post by: Photoelectric on Wed, 01 January 2014, 18:10:23
Click clacks limited runs and productions boost the overall joy of actually getting a click clack. They are supposed to be fun and a rare piece to keep you hyped up on new releases and sales, and make your day if you actually win one at cost.
In an ideal world, where everyone understands it and respects small-scale crafts, that view would be upheld and supported. In reality, this just creates opportunities for imitation, because the market demands more Clacks--more demand than supply, and prices are prohibitively high for, I would say, most keyboard owners who visit GeekHack. Some can justify the original prices of Clacks, straight from CC For Grabs sales and EK, but I believe most people, including myself, cannot afford paying $100 for a keycap--and Clacks usually go for more than that. This situation alone, due to the high demand and very high prices, makes it an enticing opportunity for those who can copy and make money on the copies. We can be idealistic all day long, but the reason imitations happened is because of that.
This aspect of the situation cannot be ignored anymore, because it is a problem that will not go away unless something changes. As to what should change--I'm not sure. Perhaps there needs to be more communication and documentation from Click Clack himself, as well as individualized certificates of authenticity for each Clack--if it is to remain a very small-scale hobby, as he wishes. Clacks have become something huge here, and it's everyone's responsibility to change the situation, if they participate in the buying, making, and reselling/trading process.
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 01 January 2014, 18:20:51
Click clacks limited runs and productions boost the overall joy of actually getting a click clack. They are supposed to be fun and a rare piece to keep you hyped up on new releases and sales, and make your day if you actually win one at cost.
In an ideal world, where everyone understands it and respects small-scale crafts, that view would be upheld and supported. In reality, this just creates opportunities for imitation, because the market demands more Clacks--more demand than supply, and prices are prohibitively high for, I would say, most keyboard owners who visit GeekHack. Some can justify the original prices of Clacks, straight from CC For Grabs sales and EK, but I believe most people, including myself, cannot afford paying $100 for a keycap--and Clacks usually go for more than that. This situation alone, due to the high demand and very high prices, makes it an enticing opportunity for those who can copy and make money on the copies. We can be idealistic all day long, but the reason imitations happened is because of that.
This aspect of the situation cannot be ignored anymore, because it is a problem that will not go away unless something changes. As to what should change--I'm not sure. Perhaps there needs to be more communication and documentation from Click Clack himself, as well as individualized certificates of authenticity for each Clack--if it is to remain a very small-scale hobby, as he wishes. Clacks have become something huge here, and it's everyone's responsibility to change the situation, if they participate in the buying, making, and reselling/trading process.
I agree Click Clack should be more Vocal here. Bro Caps is very vocal and I dont see anyone getting away with copying his work. So Clack needs to stand up and be more active as well . :thumb:
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 01 January 2014, 18:33:18
I am just so tired of seeing the bickering and whining about ****ing clacks so the gloves are coming off...
I am sure this is going to be unpopular as hell view, but I really don't make a distinction either. Then perhaps this will be obvious since I have often stated I don't give any ****s about the concepts of intellectual property and I do Cherry replica dyesubs myself. Does this hurt the now legit holder of Cherry dyesubs - BSP? Quite possibly... but they don't allow the flexibility and they don't have all the key sizes that are most often demanded. So... I can say it's BSP own fault for loosing this money. Now, also many people believe that GMK is too inflexible so you went ahead and made derivative replica with SP. Does this hurt GMK... possibly... but you can blame them for it for not accommodating smaller MOQ for less popular colorways.
If one was to pump out 1000s of CC replicas I would give zero ****s as long as it was clearly stated replica. I really couldn't fault someone for filling a supply void where there is clearly opportunity there. If clack is unhappy with someone coming along and making replica... maybe they could do plebian clacks for everyone that wants them to own in small color selection and just pump them out for $3 each or whatever... do other limited edition ones as now for the patrician collector fiends. I will blame clack for creating the void in the supply in their own market.
I don't have a ****ing doublestandard because I see them as products just like any other keycaps. You can be mad at me if you want, but I think a bunch of people are being hypocrites.
However, I won't defend the actions that the original point of this discussion was, duping people by cheating and lying about what it is. If making a lie (replica) just have integrity to be honest that it's a phoney and all is well in my book!
Mmm, a damn good point. And someone who may not have $300-400 for something they both love and appreciate is certainly palpable. It goes this way is almost any collectable situation revolving around things in very limited supply. I can tell you first hand, and on multiple occasions, I've bought Neo Geo C.O.N.V.E.R.T. carts because the idea of dropping $800 on an original Metal Slug is just beyond both my reasoning and budget. Plus I can get a perfectly serviceable replica for a quarter the price, and even that's still expensive for a single game.
On the other hand, the notion of CC pumping a bunch of otherwise rare models into the market place to make everyone happy takes away most of the mystique and uniqueness the skulls hold.
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 01 January 2014, 18:33:35
I agree Click Clack should be more Vocal here. Bro Caps is very vocal and I dont see anyone getting away with copying his work. So Clack needs to stand up and be more active as well . :thumb:
Well no one has tried to copy him yet. But some people have been thinking about it....
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 01 January 2014, 18:36:37
I agree Click Clack should be more Vocal here. Bro Caps is very vocal and I dont see anyone getting away with copying his work. So Clack needs to stand up and be more active as well . :thumb:
Well no one has tried to copy him yet. But some people have been thinking about it....
Yeah I saw that, wanted to copy the steel.. :eek:
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 01 January 2014, 18:54:12
Economics works on the basis that human wants are Infinate... How could he ever hope to fill the gap? There will always be people missing out even if he did 800 order GB's...
The things you want you place a value you would be willing to spend that is in line with your disposable income. Be that Clacks, keyboards, washing machines, shower jell, clothes etc... If there is an item you want that is too much for you to spend you either save, or go without... You can't simply say well **** it I'll just make it myself, make it look the same and then sell it at half the price!
If someone had made a skull keycap that was a solid colour, but looked nothing like a CC and wasn't thick like a CC no one would have a problem (comparing SP to GMK) but they didn't... They made an exact replica and the only real mistake they made was missing off the logo on the bottom...
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 01 January 2014, 18:56:09
Doesn't matter. Its not real a "cherry set" unless if came off a Cherry brand keyboard. And its not a real Dolch set unless it was removed from a Dolch keyboard.
Saying something is Dolch is just at fake as these replica click clacks if you say they are in fact Dolch but they weren't removed from a real Dolch keyboard. If they weren't, they are NOT Dolch.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ep4Fn18.gif)
You just became my favorite member! ^^
Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Wed, 01 January 2014, 19:44:59
I could never afford a resold CC either way, I've been patient, waiting for a For Grabs, but if I saw a good deal on something advertised as a clack, and I bought it, I'd be upset my first clack wasn't that. I'd be very, very upset actually.
That being said, Ivan isn't entirely wrong. CC invented a niche that he could not supply to. It was inevitable that someone stepped in.
Does that make it okay that someone has labelled these knockoffs as clacks? Absolutely not. Is CC to blame for someone creating a fake and selling it like they're his? No, that's victim blaming.
Is CC to blame for creating a market, and making a ripoff a valuable endeavor? I would argue yes. He probably didn't plan it, and it's not like that's a bad thing. There's nothing wrong with the market he's created for clacks, and in fact, I would say he should be extremely proud that he's found a demand for his work. But that being said, what he has done is create a vacuum, and someone has stepped in and filled that empty space.
I think it's entirely okay that someone has decided to fill the vacuum left by CC's inablity to supply anything near demand.
I do not think it's okay that they did it without CC's knowledge and permission.
I do not think it's okay that they sold them as genuine clacks.
I think there should be repercussions, if we could ever enforce such a thing. And find a way to bring restitution to those who have been wronged, and misled.
I think we should take steps to ensure every clack is genuine (whether through a certificate of authenticity, or otherwise)
and I think CC should think hard about this vacuum, and the opportunity that he may miss if he doesn't act to fill it. I like the idea of him finding a less expensive and time consuming option to cater to those who like the look, but aren't collectors, and just want to participate, while keeping specialty runs, either of higher quality or simply significantly less available, to cater to those who want something special and sentimental. This is his opportunity, and his decision. But money is waiting for him if he can find the time to reach out and grab it.
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 01 January 2014, 19:52:46
Wow, I'm glad I came across this.Nicely said
I could never afford a resold CC either way, I've been patient, waiting for a For Grabs, but if I saw a good deal on something advertised as a clack, and I bought it, I'd be upset my first clack wasn't that. I'd be very, very upset actually.
That being said, Ivan isn't entirely wrong. CC invented a niche that he could not supply to. It was inevitable that someone stepped in.
Does that make it okay that someone has labelled these knockoffs as clacks? Absolutely not. Is CC to blame for someone creating a fake and selling it like they're his? No, that's victim blaming.
Is CC to blame for creating a market, and making a ripoff a valuable endeavor? I would argue yes. He probably didn't plan it, and it's not like that's a bad thing. There's nothing wrong with the market he's created for clacks, and in fact, I would say he should be extremely proud that he's found a demand for his work. But that being said, what he has done is create a vacuum, and someone has stepped in and filled that empty space.
I think it's entirely okay that someone has decided to fill the vacuum left by CC's inablity to supply anything near demand.
I do not think it's okay that they did it without CC's knowledge and permission.
I do not think it's okay that they sold them as genuine clacks.
I think there should be repercussions, if we could ever enforce such a thing. And find a way to bring restitution to those who have been wronged, and misled.
I think we should take steps to ensure every clack is genuine (whether through a certificate of authenticity, or otherwise)
and I think CC should think hard about this vacuum, and the opportunity that he may miss if he doesn't act to fill it. I like the idea of him finding a less expensive and time consuming option to cater to those who like the look, but aren't collectors, and just want to participate, while keeping specialty runs, either of higher quality or simply significantly less available, to cater to those who want something special and sentimental. This is his opportunity, and his decision. But money is waiting for him if he can find the time to reach out and grab it.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 01 January 2014, 20:07:44
Just like with knock off Gucci, Rolex, whatever, those things thrive as there is plenty of demand for something that appears similar enough at a bargain price. Occasionally the counterfeits of those are also very very close to the same quality. If I can buy something that is similar quality and appears to be the same or close enough to my satisfaction for a quarter of the price with easier availability I don't see a problem. If I can in fact make it myself for cheaper I certainly will. If I can indeed then make enough of diy thing efficiently to make it a product, what is stopping me exactly now?
Let's say I am skilled at baking bread, and I have all the materials and equipment to make them at lets just say for argument $.25 each... should I just go oh no, **** it... it might make company X butthurt that I didn't buy their bread at the store... then we can take it a step further, and lets say the store RUNS OUT TOTALLY of bread and CLOSES instead of making some more, and I see people lining up wanting some... should I feel bad for the store and not tell all those people in line I have a huge goddamn pile of good fresh baked bread that happens to be made with the same recipe... and I will not only supply them the bread, but not charge them $3 a loaf like at the store but only $.50 for an essentially identical to store loaf... nope... that's wrong to the business I will just burn the bread and **** everyone that is hungry. But then this douchebaug that bought all the bread earlier at the store arrives... and since everyone is desperate for bread and they know it... they turn around and sell the bread at $12 each... and people seem to be totally fine with this?!?
Are you serious that you can't see that is ludicrous? Now lets replace bread with clacks for those that are really slow... it's essentially same situation isn't it now?
How could clack fill that gap? Gee, I don't know maybe mass produce them with a commercial injection molding process... you know, like all the other keycaps.
Post by: Michael on Wed, 01 January 2014, 20:12:26
How could clack fill that gap? Gee, I don't know maybe mass produce them with a commercial injection molding process... you know, like all the other keycaps.
If someone has the capacity to do such a thing, they could... oh I don't know, make their own design? Hmm.
Also, comparing a piece of sculpted (and copyrighted) art to a cap with common legends isn't a fair comparison.
Post by: kmiller8 on Wed, 01 January 2014, 20:21:42
I agree Click Clack should be more Vocal here. Bro Caps is very vocal and I dont see anyone getting away with copying his work. So Clack needs to stand up and be more active as well . :thumb:
clickclack has been around for over 3 years, Bro Caps has been active less than 1. I'm pretty sure people aren't copying Bro Caps because his first design was stuff, and his second design has been sent to only a handful of people.
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 01 January 2014, 21:11:44
I agree Click Clack should be more Vocal here. Bro Caps is very vocal and I dont see anyone getting away with copying his work. So Clack needs to stand up and be more active as well . :thumb:
clickclack has been around for over 3 years, Bro Caps has been active less than 1. I'm pretty sure people aren't copying Bro Caps because his first design was stuff, and his second design has been sent to only a handful of people.
Incoming GH Geekcast with CC?
Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 01 January 2014, 21:14:42
:pI agree Click Clack should be more Vocal here. Bro Caps is very vocal and I dont see anyone getting away with copying his work. So Clack needs to stand up and be more active as well . :thumb:
clickclack has been around for over 3 years, Bro Caps has been active less than 1. I'm pretty sure people aren't copying Bro Caps because his first design was stuff, and his second design has been sent to only a handful of people.
Incoming GH Geekcast with CC?
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 01 January 2014, 21:15:48
I agree Click Clack should be more Vocal here. Bro Caps is very vocal and I dont see anyone getting away with copying his work. So Clack needs to stand up and be more active as well . :thumb:
clickclack has been around for over 3 years, Bro Caps has been active less than 1. I'm pretty sure people aren't copying Bro Caps because his first design was stuff, and his second design has been sent to only a handful of people.
Incoming GH Geekcast with CC?
That'd be amazing, I loved the Bro Caps episode!
Post by: kmiller8 on Wed, 01 January 2014, 21:16:20
Incoming GH Geekcast with CC?
Nothing planned.
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 02 January 2014, 07:23:24
Post by: llovro on Thu, 02 January 2014, 07:54:46
Post by: Krogenar on Thu, 02 January 2014, 13:00:05
The cause of all this, in my opinion, is the misguided desire of CC to provide the clacks at a below-market price. Since he cannot control the after market, he has unwittingly made counterfeiting profitable. I would rather CC collect that money himself, by pricing his artwork at what the market has decided it is worth -- which is way more than the price he offers. He's selling them at about $40 or so. If he sold them for $50 or even $75 he would be reducing the incentive to counterfeit his work -- and the extra money would be riding on his hip, where it should be, anyway. If that profit is burning a hole in his pocket, CC can go give that money to a starving artist, 2Pac's hologram, or a hobo -- it's his choice. Or, use it for his next awesome design. (I hope for the latter -- holograms will just use the money to buy booze.)
I'm not blaming the victim -- people who infringe on copyrights are in the wrong. I'm not saying I haven't done it -- I'm not saying people who do it are Hitler. But I'm not going to jump up on a soapbox and say I was right when I did it. It's just not true.
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 02 January 2014, 13:14:45
This is ignoring the fact that CCs are now basically a status symbol, and it would take at least a few sales where they would be "more available" (in a way) to drive down the hype.
That's all based on a significant number of "if"s and is pure speculation, and we don't know enough (or at least I don't) to really project what will happen.
Post by: demik on Thu, 02 January 2014, 13:18:58
Surprise surprise
Post by: Krogenar on Thu, 02 January 2014, 13:47:41
I don't see how increasing the sale price would reduce the counterfeiting incentive, except maybe in some aspects. Thinking about it, here's how I think it would go. CC price goes up from a direct sale, perhaps fewer people can commit to buy now. Those who can pay $75 still buy up all of the available caps.
Well, no, I'm saying CC could still sell as a lottery, but sell them at closer to the aftermarket price.
Quote from: Photoelectric
There are still not that many available caps made--right? I don't actually know the exact numbers. If it costs someone $10-15 to make a fake, they still know they can then resell it for at least $75+.
I don't know how many clacks are out there, or how many are generally sold in one of CC's events. But I see your point -- something valuable is always going to be at risk of being counterfeited.
Quote from: Photoelectric
Which is the same situation we're in currently. The difference would come if there are more CC caps made than I think there are, and if pricing them at $60-75 would make them not sell out as fast by people who barely know his caps and just jump into the sales because of low prices for fun novelty caps, never to be heard from again.
If the price of clacks were closer to what the real market price, it would make reselling them at a higher price more difficult. Also, people who were willing to buy at $40, but will not buy at $75 are now priced out of the market. So the people who want clacks the most (and are willing to pay the most) get them. I think they would probably still sell out, and quickly. But at least the aftermarket prices wouldn't be so outrageous, and the artist would realize more profit.
Quote from: Photoelectric
In which case, there would be a bit less of a shortage. Which could drive down demand somewhat.Yeah, in the sense that fewer people would be in the market.
Quote from: Photoelectric
This is ignoring the fact that CCs are now basically a status symbol, and it would take at least a few sales where they would be "more available" (in a way) to drive down the hype.
Agreed. A better analogy would be a designer handbag -- there's a fair degree of e-peenism involved. You're right that selling at a higher price would not necessarily reduce counterfeiting; but it would reduce some of the aftermarket price "gouging." When something is offered at a below market price, people are going to "flip" the item. Maybe there's a better way to get clacks into the hands of people who wouldn't be able to afford them? Award them to people with an identifying mark with the promise that they never be sold?
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 02 January 2014, 14:28:38
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 02 January 2014, 14:54:08
Wouldn't it simply drive up the aftermarket sale price?
I can't see it going higher than it already is. GirlDC has been selling his caps for a while now for ~$100 a cap, and his caps don't get re-sold for $200+. People pay what they can afford and think is reasonable.
Post by: Krogenar on Thu, 02 January 2014, 14:54:53
Wouldn't it simply drive up the aftermarket sale price?
Possibly. But even clacks must have an upper limit to what people will pay. I'll sell my translucent red clack to you for $100,000. Interested? Didn't think so. I think the aftermarket "flip" prices are closer to the what the real price would be in an open market. If CC wants to get clacks into people's hands who couldn't pay that amount, that's altruistic, but it's also distorting the market. There's got to be a better way to achieve that goal, besides making the cost of clacks so low.
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 02 January 2014, 16:13:30
Wouldn't it simply drive up the aftermarket sale price?
I can't see it going higher than it already is. GirlDC has been selling his caps for a while now for ~$100 a cap, and his caps don't get re-sold for $200+. People pay what they can afford and think is reasonable.
True but the demand is lower I would imagine.
I still think you have to be a special kind of self entitled retard in order to think that just because something is rare and expensive you can simply make money of copying and selling copywrited work.
Post by: Binge on Thu, 02 January 2014, 17:28:30
I think this has spiraled into the realm of "what would I do with clacks if I was clack," and I feel unable to comment! I'm not clack....
Post by: digi on Thu, 02 January 2014, 17:36:05
I still think you have to be a special kind of self entitled retard in order to think that just because something is rare and expensive you can simply make money of copying and selling copywrited work.
They might be self entitled retards, but those retards do make a lot of money. e.g. fake Nike, Reebok, Sports Jersey's, purses, watches, jewelry, luggage, etc.
Post by: Wildcard on Thu, 02 January 2014, 18:30:33
I still think you have to be a special kind of self entitled retard in order to think that just because something is rare and expensive you can simply make money of copying and selling copywrited work.
They might be self entitled retards, but those retards do make a lot of money. e.g. fake Nike, Reebok, Sports Jersey's, purses, watches, jewelry, luggage, etc.
TIL red line was taking it to the max in the counterfeit market.
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 02 January 2014, 18:37:31
Post by: demik on Thu, 02 January 2014, 18:43:06
As far as it looks right now, LZ and GirlDC are remaining active members of RedLine who actually make stuff, so I wouldn't generalize it to RedLine. Both of them make something entirely different and are busy with their own products. All we know is that DrugER was implicated in distribution of fake clacks, and not actually the circumstances and how deep the arrangement went.
i bought this pitchfork and damn it im going to use it!
Post by: tbc on Thu, 02 January 2014, 23:20:57
Wouldn't it simply drive up the aftermarket sale price?
I can't see it going higher than it already is. GirlDC has been selling his caps for a while now for ~$100 a cap, and his caps don't get re-sold for $200+. People pay what they can afford and think is reasonable.
True but the demand is lower I would imagine.
I still think you have to be a special kind of self entitled retard in order to think that just because something is rare and expensive you can simply make money of copying and selling copywrited work.
never met someone who prioritized money over people?
never met a politician?
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 12 May 2014, 13:39:37
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 12 May 2014, 13:40:11
Another fake clack spotted :eek: (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=248400&mid=board_ISZP76)
motha ****ing koreans
Post by: microsoft windows on Mon, 12 May 2014, 13:41:09
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 12 May 2014, 13:46:39
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 12 May 2014, 13:47:59
Another fake clack spotted :eek: (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=248400&mid=board_ISZP76)
What do you bet DrugER was involved?
Post by: Binge on Mon, 12 May 2014, 13:50:40
Who cares if they're fake? They look to be just about the same thing. After all, they're just little pieces of plastic.
All versions of IE are the same. They are all just pieces of ****.
Post by: digi on Mon, 12 May 2014, 13:53:45
Who cares if they're fake? They look to be just about the same thing. After all, they're just little pieces of plastic.
All versions of IE are the same. They are all just pieces of ****.
lol, good one.
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 12 May 2014, 13:54:50
Another fake clack spotted :eek: (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=248400&mid=board_ISZP76)
How do you know its fake without looking at the bottom? :S
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 12 May 2014, 13:56:41
Another fake clack spotted :eek: (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=248400&mid=board_ISZP76)
How do you know its fake without looking at the bottom? :S
its see through
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 12 May 2014, 13:58:46
Another fake clack spotted :eek: (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=248400&mid=board_ISZP76)
How do you know its fake without looking at the bottom? :S
its see through
Ah, you saw through my shortsighted post :(
:D
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 12 May 2014, 13:59:13
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 12 May 2014, 13:59:30
This whole affair pissed me off. First I got ripped off in a trade, then CC offers me a different key so he can get his hands on the fake, then stiffs me. I would have kept the fake! It was obviously cheap but once installed didn't look that bad.
Maybe he just forgot. It happens sometimes.
Post by: Alessandro on Mon, 12 May 2014, 13:59:48
Post by: Binge on Mon, 12 May 2014, 14:02:13
Looking at it, I'm also pretty sure that the face is indented and the teeth are wrong.
but they aren't.
Post by: Signature on Mon, 12 May 2014, 14:02:18
Looking at it, I'm also pretty sure that the face is indented and the teeth are wrong.
Edit: Nvm it's the gumrot variant but I can swear it looks different
Post by: eyesmiles on Mon, 12 May 2014, 14:41:02
This whole affair pissed me off. First I got ripped off in a trade, then CC offers me a different key so he can get his hands on the fake, then stiffs me. I would have kept the fake! It was obviously cheap but once installed didn't look that bad.
I didn't receive anything myself but tbqh I honestly don't care anymore. I've been enjoying Cherry/GMK doubleshots than novelty key caps nowadays. I probably will get rid of any remaining clacks I own sometime soon or perhaps give them to my nephews.
Anyways, the images look to be the same "ice blue" that's been around. The texture near the 'cheek' areas looks off. The bottom of the cap looks machined and precise. Inside corners look sharp. CC would probably point out more
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 12 May 2014, 15:06:27
Another fake clack spotted :eek: (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=248400&mid=board_ISZP76)
That sucks :(
Hopefully it is just another one of the old batch that was overlooked.
Did you PM CC? As much as he's not well at the moment, he should know about this.
Post by: Tym on Mon, 12 May 2014, 15:20:24
Do you honestly not see that? Or are you intentionally a massive racist?Another fake clack spotted :eek: (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=248400&mid=board_ISZP76)
motha ****ing koreans
Post by: strict on Mon, 12 May 2014, 17:17:25
I agree Click Clack should be more Vocal here. Bro Caps is very vocal and I dont see anyone getting away with copying his work. So Clack needs to stand up and be more active as well . :thumb:
clickclack has been around for over 3 years, Bro Caps has been active less than 1. I'm pretty sure people aren't copying Bro Caps because his first design was stuff, and his second design has been sent to only a handful of people.
Incoming GH Geekcast with CC?
That'd be amazing, I loved the Bro Caps episode!
Anyone have a link to this?
Post by: billnye on Mon, 12 May 2014, 17:24:29
I agree Click Clack should be more Vocal here. Bro Caps is very vocal and I dont see anyone getting away with copying his work. So Clack needs to stand up and be more active as well . :thumb:
clickclack has been around for over 3 years, Bro Caps has been active less than 1. I'm pretty sure people aren't copying Bro Caps because his first design was stuff, and his second design has been sent to only a handful of people.
Incoming GH Geekcast with CC?
That'd be amazing, I loved the Bro Caps episode!
Anyone have a link to this?
http://thekeyboardlounge.com/geekhackin-2/
Post by: Fire Brand on Mon, 12 May 2014, 19:31:28
I logged in just to say that was a good one :)Who cares if they're fake? They look to be just about the same thing. After all, they're just little pieces of plastic.
All versions of IE are the same. They are all just pieces of ****.
And did he really not send you anything fatter sending the fake one in metal :/
Post by: clickclack on Mon, 12 May 2014, 19:39:53
This whole affair pissed me off. First I got ripped off in a trade, then CC offers me a different key so he can get his hands on the fake, then stiffs me. I would have kept the fake! It was obviously cheap but once installed didn't look that bad.
Ouch! ;)
Sorry about the delay, I seemed to have a number of members miffed (not as many as you might think though) at any given moment while I'm stuck playing the ruthless game of catch up. I'm extremely grateful that you were generous and willing to help me out, I'm deeply sorry I cannot return the favor just yet. I'm rather close but not quite ready and I am excited that I can soon return this favor.
I am thousands of emails behind on any given day and I'm battling a rather unfavorable signal to noise ratio regarding them. Post-it notes, day planners, reminders of various natures all become awash of significance but difficult to discern notation. Then add in a rather incomprehensible dose of easily 80+ hour work weeks, family medical issues, personal health issues, and I hope one can then imagine and perhaps even appreciate the difficulty in wrangling the unreasonable.
I'm doing what I can with what I got and I am guaranteed in advance that it will not be enough. That's a tough thing to swallow when you're pushing yourself this hard. So why bother? I bother because it generates motivation and I seem to subsist on the challenges of trying to earn the position and praise that I sometimes receive.
I am extremely grateful for what many have done for me in this community and similar venues. Trust me, I couldn't forget it or not act on it if I tried.
clack out!
For the tl;dr crowd-
-I like yooz peeps.
-Some of yooz peeps likes me.
-Thank yooz for everything.
-I'm often slow to respond.
-Kumbaya.
-cc =)
Post by: Pacifist on Mon, 12 May 2014, 19:42:32
This whole affair pissed me off. First I got ripped off in a trade, then CC offers me a different key so he can get his hands on the fake, then stiffs me. I would have kept the fake! It was obviously cheap but once installed didn't look that bad.
Ouch! ;)
Sorry about the delay, I seemed to have a number of members miffed (not as many as you might think though) at any given moment while I'm stuck playing the ruthless game of catch up. I'm extremely grateful that you were generous and willing to help me out, I'm deeply sorry I cannot return the favor just yet. I'm rather close but not quite ready and I am excited that I can soon return this favor.
I am thousands of emails behind on any given day and I'm battling a rather unfavorable signal to noise ratio regarding them. Post-it notes, day planners, reminders of various natures all become awash of significance but difficult to discern notation. Then add in a rather incomprehensible dose of easily 80+ hour work weeks, family medical issues, personal health issues, and I hope one can then imagine and perhaps even appreciate the difficulty in wrangling the unreasonable.
I'm doing what I can with what I got and I am guaranteed in advance that it will not be enough. That's a tough thing to swallow when you're pushing yourself this hard. So why bother? I bother because it generates motivation and I seem to subsist on the challenges of trying to earn the position and praise that I sometimes receive.
I am extremely grateful for what many have done for me in this community and similar venues. Trust me, I couldn't forget it or not act on it if I tried.
clack out!
For the tl;dr crowd-
-I like yooz peeps.
-Some of yooz peeps likes me.
-Thank yooz for everything.
-I'm often slow to respond.
-Kumbaya.
-cc =)
cc replies are the best
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 12 May 2014, 19:45:30
This whole affair pissed me off. First I got ripped off in a trade, then CC offers me a different key so he can get his hands on the fake, then stiffs me. I would have kept the fake! It was obviously cheap but once installed didn't look that bad.
Ouch! ;)
Sorry about the delay, I seemed to have a number of members miffed (not as many as you might think though) at any given moment while I'm stuck playing the ruthless game of catch up. I'm extremely grateful that you were generous and willing to help me out, I'm deeply sorry I cannot return the favor just yet. I'm rather close but not quite ready and I am excited that I can soon return this favor.
I am thousands of emails behind on any given day and I'm battling a rather unfavorable signal to noise ratio regarding them. Post-it notes, day planners, reminders of various natures all become awash of significance but difficult to discern notation. Then add in a rather incomprehensible dose of easily 80+ hour work weeks, family medical issues, personal health issues, and I hope one can then imagine and perhaps even appreciate the difficulty in wrangling the unreasonable.
I'm doing what I can with what I got and I am guaranteed in advance that it will not be enough. That's a tough thing to swallow when you're pushing yourself this hard. So why bother? I bother because it generates motivation and I seem to subsist on the challenges of trying to earn the position and praise that I sometimes receive.
I am extremely grateful for what many have done for me in this community and similar venues. Trust me, I couldn't forget it or not act on it if I tried.
clack out!
For the tl;dr crowd-
-I like yooz peeps.
-Some of yooz peeps likes me.
-Thank yooz for everything.
-I'm often slow to respond.
-Kumbaya.
-cc =)
we all appreciate what you do sir
clack on
Post by: Sniping on Mon, 12 May 2014, 19:48:00
This whole affair pissed me off. First I got ripped off in a trade, then CC offers me a different key so he can get his hands on the fake, then stiffs me. I would have kept the fake! It was obviously cheap but once installed didn't look that bad.
Ouch! ;)
Sorry about the delay, I seemed to have a number of members miffed (not as many as you might think though) at any given moment while I'm stuck playing the ruthless game of catch up. I'm extremely grateful that you were generous and willing to help me out, I'm deeply sorry I cannot return the favor just yet. I'm rather close but not quite ready and I am excited that I can soon return this favor.
I am thousands of emails behind on any given day and I'm battling a rather unfavorable signal to noise ratio regarding them. Post-it notes, day planners, reminders of various natures all become awash of significance but difficult to discern notation. Then add in a rather incomprehensible dose of easily 80+ hour work weeks, family medical issues, personal health issues, and I hope one can then imagine and perhaps even appreciate the difficulty in wrangling the unreasonable.
I'm doing what I can with what I got and I am guaranteed in advance that it will not be enough. That's a tough thing to swallow when you're pushing yourself this hard. So why bother? I bother because it generates motivation and I seem to subsist on the challenges of trying to earn the position and praise that I sometimes receive.
I am extremely grateful for what many have done for me in this community and similar venues. Trust me, I couldn't forget it or not act on it if I tried.
clack out!
For the tl;dr crowd-
-I like yooz peeps.
-Some of yooz peeps likes me.
-Thank yooz for everything.
-I'm often slow to respond.
-Kumbaya.
-cc =)
cc replies are the best
I think the smiley face is the cherry on top.
Post by: Lu_e on Mon, 12 May 2014, 20:04:01
Another fake clack spotted :eek: (http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=248400&mid=board_ISZP76)
How do you know its fake without looking at the bottom? :S
Also, if you look at the bottom left corner you can see an imperfect edge.
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Mon, 12 May 2014, 20:08:07
This gives Click Crack a whole new meaning!
Post by: Belfong on Mon, 12 May 2014, 20:54:47
coincidence and behind the scene are the constant struggles that RL throws at one. History have proven this. Take care CC.
Post by: sth on Tue, 13 May 2014, 03:13:56
Maybe if i post in this thread in support of Charles Clack and against Foreign ClibClab manufactures he will shine his golden shine upon the world and i will receive this Covetous Cool Click Clack Cey.
Rah rah
Post by: Fire Brand on Tue, 13 May 2014, 04:48:34
This whole affair pissed me off. First I got ripped off in a trade, then CC offers me a different key so he can get his hands on the fake, then stiffs me. I would have kept the fake! It was obviously cheap but once installed didn't look that bad.
Ouch! ;)
Sorry about the delay, I seemed to have a number of members miffed (not as many as you might think though) at any given moment while I'm stuck playing the ruthless game of catch up. I'm extremely grateful that you were generous and willing to help me out, I'm deeply sorry I cannot return the favor just yet. I'm rather close but not quite ready and I am excited that I can soon return this favor.
I am thousands of emails behind on any given day and I'm battling a rather unfavorable signal to noise ratio regarding them. Post-it notes, day planners, reminders of various natures all become awash of significance but difficult to discern notation. Then add in a rather incomprehensible dose of easily 80+ hour work weeks, family medical issues, personal health issues, and I hope one can then imagine and perhaps even appreciate the difficulty in wrangling the unreasonable.
I'm doing what I can with what I got and I am guaranteed in advance that it will not be enough. That's a tough thing to swallow when you're pushing yourself this hard. So why bother? I bother because it generates motivation and I seem to subsist on the challenges of trying to earn the position and praise that I sometimes receive.
I am extremely grateful for what many have done for me in this community and similar venues. Trust me, I couldn't forget it or not act on it if I tried.
clack out!
For the tl;dr crowd-
-I like yooz peeps.
-Some of yooz peeps likes me.
-Thank yooz for everything.
-I'm often slow to respond.
-Kumbaya.
-cc =)
Aww well thats good thats good that everythings getting sorted out yay, I like meez too click :x and I need to edit that post its hard typing on a tablet :x well its good that everything has come to clicks view again, me thinks he should aim the lasers at the creater of these >_>
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 13 May 2014, 05:01:25
Who cares if they're fake? They look to be just about the same thing. After all, they're just little pieces of plastic.
All versions of IE are the same. They are all just pieces of ****.
<33
:)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :))
Oh no, fake clacks again... ;o
CC you are so odd, I love it.. :)) :p
Post by: beartung on Tue, 13 May 2014, 09:21:59
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 13 May 2014, 11:04:52
Who cares if they're fake? They look to be just about the same thing. After all, they're just little pieces of plastic.
All versions of IE are the same. They are all just pieces of ****.
YOUR LOGIC IS MISSING. INTERNET EXPLORER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PLASTIC KEY CAPS. INTERNET EXPLORER, ESPECIALLY IE6, IS VASTLY SUPERIOR TO ANY KEY CAP ON THE PLANET THOUGH. SO YOU'RE WRONG. END OF DISCUSSION.
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 13 May 2014, 12:10:43
fake CC? Oh no... I think there are no fake ones...
Well there are
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 13 May 2014, 12:14:33
This whole affair pissed me off. First I got ripped off in a trade, then CC offers me a different key so he can get his hands on the fake, then stiffs me. I would have kept the fake! It was obviously cheap but once installed didn't look that bad.
Ouch! ;)
Sorry about the delay, I seemed to have a number of members miffed (not as many as you might think though) at any given moment while I'm stuck playing the ruthless game of catch up. I'm extremely grateful that you were generous and willing to help me out, I'm deeply sorry I cannot return the favor just yet. I'm rather close but not quite ready and I am excited that I can soon return this favor.
I am thousands of emails behind on any given day and I'm battling a rather unfavorable signal to noise ratio regarding them. Post-it notes, day planners, reminders of various natures all become awash of significance but difficult to discern notation. Then add in a rather incomprehensible dose of easily 80+ hour work weeks, family medical issues, personal health issues, and I hope one can then imagine and perhaps even appreciate the difficulty in wrangling the unreasonable.
I'm doing what I can with what I got and I am guaranteed in advance that it will not be enough. That's a tough thing to swallow when you're pushing yourself this hard. So why bother? I bother because it generates motivation and I seem to subsist on the challenges of trying to earn the position and praise that I sometimes receive.
I am extremely grateful for what many have done for me in this community and similar venues. Trust me, I couldn't forget it or not act on it if I tried.
clack out!
For the tl;dr crowd-
-I like yooz peeps.
-Some of yooz peeps likes me.
-Thank yooz for everything.
-I'm often slow to respond.
-Kumbaya.
-cc =)
idkman. I feel like I like yoo and yoo dnt liek me...
Post by: IPT on Tue, 13 May 2014, 12:20:23
This whole affair pissed me off. First I got ripped off in a trade, then CC offers me a different key so he can get his hands on the fake, then stiffs me. I would have kept the fake! It was obviously cheap but once installed didn't look that bad.
Ouch! ;)
Sorry about the delay, I seemed to have a number of members miffed (not as many as you might think though) at any given moment while I'm stuck playing the ruthless game of catch up. I'm extremely grateful that you were generous and willing to help me out, I'm deeply sorry I cannot return the favor just yet. I'm rather close but not quite ready and I am excited that I can soon return this favor.
I am thousands of emails behind on any given day and I'm battling a rather unfavorable signal to noise ratio regarding them. Post-it notes, day planners, reminders of various natures all become awash of significance but difficult to discern notation. Then add in a rather incomprehensible dose of easily 80+ hour work weeks, family medical issues, personal health issues, and I hope one can then imagine and perhaps even appreciate the difficulty in wrangling the unreasonable.
I'm doing what I can with what I got and I am guaranteed in advance that it will not be enough. That's a tough thing to swallow when you're pushing yourself this hard. So why bother? I bother because it generates motivation and I seem to subsist on the challenges of trying to earn the position and praise that I sometimes receive.
I am extremely grateful for what many have done for me in this community and similar venues. Trust me, I couldn't forget it or not act on it if I tried.
clack out!
For the tl;dr crowd-
-I like yooz peeps.
-Some of yooz peeps likes me.
-Thank yooz for everything.
-I'm often slow to respond.
-Kumbaya.
-cc =)
idkman. I feel like I like yoo and yoo dnt liek me...
lets hug it out man!
Post by: Michael on Tue, 13 May 2014, 12:24:49
-I like yooz peeps.
(http://i.imgur.com/Ufbr5ej.gif)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 25 August 2014, 08:05:54
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39794.msg1448404#msg1448404
Just a warning to everyone, more fake clacks have appeared.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 25 August 2014, 09:38:05
Post by: iri on Mon, 25 August 2014, 09:42:28
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 25 August 2014, 10:46:15
If you have pics of fake clacks I want them for comparison.
Post by: snoopy on Mon, 25 August 2014, 10:47:16
Post by: bueller on Mon, 25 August 2014, 10:49:30
sad dayVery sad. CC has worked on these for years and sold them at incredibly affordable prices, put up with probably thousands on PMs and now someone comes along and does this. Disgusting.
Post by: Michael on Mon, 25 August 2014, 11:03:03
http://www.nibusinessinfo.co.uk/content/registering-and-enforcing-intellectual-property-rights-vietnam
http://talk.onevietnam.org/state-of-intellectual-property-and-copyright-in-vietnam/
With a little bit of work, I think CC can get something going there.
Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 25 August 2014, 11:29:58
It's tough, but not impossible to enforce IP rights violations in Vietnam:
http://www.nibusinessinfo.co.uk/content/registering-and-enforcing-intellectual-property-rights-vietnam
http://talk.onevietnam.org/state-of-intellectual-property-and-copyright-in-vietnam/
With a little bit of work, I think CC can get something going there.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39794.msg1448707#msg1448707
Might not only be CC.
Post by: domoaligato on Mon, 25 August 2014, 11:31:44
As far as I can see with my Koreans, they're coming out of Vietnam this time. It looks like it may be associated with drugER.
If you have pics of fake clacks I want them for comparison.
whois info confirms Vietnam.
Post by: Michael on Mon, 25 August 2014, 12:24:34
It's tough, but not impossible to enforce IP rights violations in Vietnam:
http://www.nibusinessinfo.co.uk/content/registering-and-enforcing-intellectual-property-rights-vietnam (http://www.nibusinessinfo.co.uk/content/registering-and-enforcing-intellectual-property-rights-vietnam)
http://talk.onevietnam.org/state-of-intellectual-property-and-copyright-in-vietnam/ (http://talk.onevietnam.org/state-of-intellectual-property-and-copyright-in-vietnam/)
With a little bit of work, I think CC can get something going there.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39794.msg1448707#msg1448707 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39794.msg1448707#msg1448707)
Might not only be CC.
Oh don't worry, I am doing my research for the both of us. I also have copyrights on my V2 design
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 25 August 2014, 12:26:44
i thought you could only patent a design
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 25 August 2014, 12:41:28
how does the copyright work?
i thought you could only patent a design
Patents are *typically* for ideas or novel methods to do things. Designs are usually copyrighted. At least that's my understanding, it may very well be more complicated.
Post by: exitfire401 on Mon, 25 August 2014, 12:44:49
how does the copyright work?
i thought you could only patent a design
Patents are *typically* for ideas or novel methods to do things. Designs are usually copyrighted. At least that's my understanding, it may very well be more complicated.
There are a lot of basic terms that muddy the waters between patent and IP law. Once you look at the legal jargon (if you can comprehend it) it becomes a lot more clear what is what. In layman's terms, yours is a decent description hoff.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 25 August 2014, 12:49:35
how does the copyright work?
i thought you could only patent a design
Patents are *typically* for ideas or novel methods to do things. Designs are usually copyrighted. At least that's my understanding, it may very well be more complicated.
There are a lot of basic terms that muddy the waters between patent and IP law. Once you look at the legal jargon (if you can comprehend it) it becomes a lot more clear what is what. In layman's terms, yours is a decent description hoff.
That's my least favourite part of the whole ordeal. :P But yeah, my understanding is at a fairly high level (ie, not too great), so I can only really describe it in basic terms. I'm no legal expert.
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 25 August 2014, 13:05:33
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 25 August 2014, 13:05:54
Damn more? I PMd CC a couple months back as well about someone on KBDMania with a fake clack.. Damn these people..
that was drugER
this is not drugER
it's bad
Post by: Lastpilot on Mon, 25 August 2014, 13:10:28
Post by: P3TC0CK on Mon, 25 August 2014, 13:10:45
I know there are less vaders than the other keycaps and that it doesn't make what the copycats are doing now anymore 'right', but it's all a bit ridiculous. If you were OK with Vader caps and the selling of them then you should be OK with what the counterfeiters are doing.
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 25 August 2014, 13:10:54
btw when did pacifist move to vietnam?:))
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 25 August 2014, 13:11:00
Damn more? I PMd CC a couple months back as well about someone on KBDMania with a fake clack.. Damn these people..
that was drugER
this is not drugER
it's bad
Damn... :confused:
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 25 August 2014, 13:14:30
Can someone explain to me why there is such a concern for protecting the IP of Click Clack when he has violated IP of whoever currently owns Star Wars? Just because one is part of the community and another is owned by a corporation doesn't make CC's violations anymore right.
I know there are less vaders than the other keycaps and that it doesn't make what the copycats are doing now anymore 'right', but it's all a bit ridiculous. If you were OK with Vader caps and the selling of them then you should be OK with what the counterfeiters are doing.
as far as he's said he's not violating IP by making vader caps
i forget why, but he's given a reason before explaining why it's OK
Post by: Grim Fandango on Mon, 25 August 2014, 13:18:06
This whole affair pissed me off. First I got ripped off in a trade, then CC offers me a different key so he can get his hands on the fake, then stiffs me. I would have kept the fake! It was obviously cheap but once installed didn't look that bad.
Ouch! ;)
Sorry about the delay, I seemed to have a number of members miffed (not as many as you might think though) at any given moment while I'm stuck playing the ruthless game of catch up. I'm extremely grateful that you were generous and willing to help me out, I'm deeply sorry I cannot return the favor just yet. I'm rather close but not quite ready and I am excited that I can soon return this favor.
I am thousands of emails behind on any given day and I'm battling a rather unfavorable signal to noise ratio regarding them. Post-it notes, day planners, reminders of various natures all become awash of significance but difficult to discern notation. Then add in a rather incomprehensible dose of easily 80+ hour work weeks, family medical issues, personal health issues, and I hope one can then imagine and perhaps even appreciate the difficulty in wrangling the unreasonable.
I'm doing what I can with what I got and I am guaranteed in advance that it will not be enough. That's a tough thing to swallow when you're pushing yourself this hard. So why bother? I bother because it generates motivation and I seem to subsist on the challenges of trying to earn the position and praise that I sometimes receive.
I am extremely grateful for what many have done for me in this community and similar venues. Trust me, I couldn't forget it or not act on it if I tried.
clack out!
For the tl;dr crowd-
-I like yooz peeps.
-Some of yooz peeps likes me.
-Thank yooz for everything.
-I'm often slow to respond.
-Kumbaya.
-cc =)
The real question on everyone's mind is,
Can't you get your gnomes to do it?
Post by: P3TC0CK on Mon, 25 August 2014, 13:22:54
Can someone explain to me why there is such a concern for protecting the IP of Click Clack when he has violated IP of whoever currently owns Star Wars? Just because one is part of the community and another is owned by a corporation doesn't make CC's violations anymore right.
I know there are less vaders than the other keycaps and that it doesn't make what the copycats are doing now anymore 'right', but it's all a bit ridiculous. If you were OK with Vader caps and the selling of them then you should be OK with what the counterfeiters are doing.
as far as he's said he's not violating IP by making vader caps
i forget why, but he's given a reason before explaining why it's OK
They're definitely not protected under fair use, so they're derivative works. Anything derivative needs the permission of the creator of the original work. Some artists/creators don't mind their work being derived so they allow fan art to be created (I'm sure Disney is fine with this) but as soon as money enters the equation it's a whole other story.
Quote
The 1961 Report of the Register of Copyrights on the General Revision of the U.S. Copyright Law cites examples of activities that courts have regarded as fair use: “quotation of excerpts in a review or criticism for purposes of illustration or comment; quotation of short passages in a scholarly or technical work, for illustration or clarification of the author’s observations; use in a parody of some of the content of the work parodied; summary of an address or article, with brief quotations, in a news report; reproduction by a library of a portion of a work to replace part of a damaged copy; reproduction by a teacher or student of a small part of a work to illustrate a lesson; reproduction of a work in legislative or judicial proceedings or reports; incidental and fortuitous reproduction, in a newsreel or broadcast, of a work located in the scene of an event being reported.”
link. (http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html)
Article from Etsy (https://blog.etsy.com/en/2010/fan-art-and-fair-use-one-truth-and-five-myths/) regarding fair use. I think it's applicable seeing as Etsy is a market for artists of very similar crafts as CC.
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 25 August 2014, 13:25:02
Wow man.. Didnt think it was this bad.. :confused: WTF
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 25 August 2014, 13:29:06
you can't ban these accounts
I'm trying to get info from them
and I don't know if you saw
BUT THEY'RE LITERALLY FEEDING US INFORMATION
Post by: exitfire401 on Mon, 25 August 2014, 13:30:23
exitfire
you can't ban these accounts
I'm trying to get info from them
and I don't know if you saw
BUT THEY'RE LITERALLY FEEDING US INFORMATION
Not banning.
Post by: Lastpilot on Mon, 25 August 2014, 13:35:31
Last time I was overseas in Hong Kong and Philippines it looked like there are fakes of everything including huge million-billion dollar brands. I mean if they can't control counterfeit products how can one-man-shows like brobot and clickclack fight against it? Is there a fight to be made concerning overseas counterfeit products?
There may be a way to stop them from selling to United States, but I feel like no matter what there will be fakes overseas. :[
Post by: demik on Mon, 25 August 2014, 13:40:33
But what do I know.
Post by: redskull on Mon, 25 August 2014, 13:43:16
Post by: paicrai on Mon, 25 August 2014, 13:46:01
Stop selling them for ridiculous prices and they wont be worth their time to clone and resell.100% that
But what do I know.
Post by: JinDesu on Mon, 25 August 2014, 13:50:52
First off let me say I am totally against these fakes.
Last time I was overseas in Hong Kong and Philippines it looked like there are fakes of everything including huge million-billion dollar brands. I mean if they can't control counterfeit products how can one-man-shows like brobot and clickclack fight against it? Is there a fight to be made concerning overseas counterfeit products?
There may be a way to stop them from selling to United States, but I feel like no matter what there will be fakes overseas. :[
I gotta admit, the above makes a good point. I remember I once bought replica Champion's League jerseys from the phillipines via on-line stores, and I don't doubt the Champion's League has far greater powers at swatting counterfeiters than any of us individuals.
Post by: tinlong117 on Mon, 25 August 2014, 13:57:29
Stop selling them for ridiculous prices and they wont be worth their time to clone and resell.
But what do I know.
Truth teller.
Post by: P3TC0CK on Mon, 25 August 2014, 13:58:54
First off let me say I am totally against these fakes.
Last time I was overseas in Hong Kong and Philippines it looked like there are fakes of everything including huge million-billion dollar brands. I mean if they can't control counterfeit products how can one-man-shows like brobot and clickclack fight against it? Is there a fight to be made concerning overseas counterfeit products?
There may be a way to stop them from selling to United States, but I feel like no matter what there will be fakes overseas. :[
I'm not too familiar with novelty keycaps (they're all generally outrageously priced so it's not worth it to me) but didn't brobot violate transformers and Iron Man IP to create some of his caps? Or was he able to secure permission to produce them?
Neither Brobot not Click Clack really stand in any position to criticize counterfeiters unless they've gone and apologized or expressed regret for stealing those ideas. Unless they've gotten explicit permission from the companies that created that content they are willfully violating other people's IP.
Just because the internet is filled with people selling fan art/fan pieces of star wars and other IP doesn't mean what they're doing is right.
Post by: demik on Mon, 25 August 2014, 13:58:55
Post by: bazh on Mon, 25 August 2014, 14:15:55
Stop selling them for ridiculous prices and they wont be worth their time to clone and resell.
But what do I know.
dis :*
Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 25 August 2014, 14:18:28
Here's to hoping the first Clack I get is a legitimate one :thumb:
Post by: demik on Mon, 25 August 2014, 14:24:33
This recent wave of fakes actually makes me want a legitimate Clack much more. From what I understand Clack has recently upped his game in making his caps more difficult to fake, so hopefully it will continue to be easy to identify fakes in the future.
Here's to hoping the first Clack I get is a legitimate one :thumb:
So youre okay with fakes
Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 25 August 2014, 14:49:37
This recent wave of fakes actually makes me want a legitimate Clack much more. From what I understand Clack has recently upped his game in making his caps more difficult to fake, so hopefully it will continue to be easy to identify fakes in the future.
Here's to hoping the first Clack I get is a legitimate one :thumb:
So youre okay with fakes
Really hope I didn't come off that way. Are you just joking? I'm not really sure how anyone with even the slightest moral compass could support counterfeit art.
Post by: demik on Mon, 25 August 2014, 15:05:00
But wanting something more due to fakes is weird.
Post by: Lurch on Mon, 25 August 2014, 15:06:46
This recent wave of fakes actually makes me want a legitimate Clack much more. From what I understand Clack has recently upped his game in making his caps more difficult to fake, so hopefully it will continue to be easy to identify fakes in the future.
Here's to hoping the first Clack I get is a legitimate one :thumb:
So youre okay with fakes
Really hope I didn't come off that way. Are you just joking? I'm not really sure how anyone with even the slightest moral compass could support counterfeit art.
As bad as I want an orangesicle CC, there is no ****ing way you will catch me buying counterfeit ****ing **** from ****ing herbs trying to hustle a quick buck. Go be creative and make up your own ****. ****.
Excuse the profanity... :blank:
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 25 August 2014, 15:07:56
didn't brobot violate transformersand Iron ManIP to create some of his caps? Or was he able to secure permission to produce them?
Q: Was V1 just an Optimus Prime head on a cap?
A: Yes, yes it was. The purpose behind that, was a learning one. To understand how the manufacturing process works, to know how different plastics and materials interact to gain the desired effect. I had no plans to go further than this purpose, and I have learned and grown much from the experience.
He has spoken on this subject before, and isn't really denying anything.
Regardless, it doesn't make it right to steal his work... :confused:
Post by: demik on Mon, 25 August 2014, 15:09:32
But herbs selling it for x10 the price is okay.This recent wave of fakes actually makes me want a legitimate Clack much more. From what I understand Clack has recently upped his game in making his caps more difficult to fake, so hopefully it will continue to be easy to identify fakes in the future.
Here's to hoping the first Clack I get is a legitimate one :thumb:
So youre okay with fakes
Really hope I didn't come off that way. Are you just joking? I'm not really sure how anyone with even the slightest moral compass could support counterfeit art.
As bad as I want an orangesicle CC, there is no ****ing way you will catch me buying counterfeit ****ing **** from ****ing herbs trying to hustle a quick buck. Go be creative and make up your own ****. ****.
Excuse the profanity... :blank:
A hustle is a hustle.
Post by: Dyslexic on Mon, 25 August 2014, 15:15:11
Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 25 August 2014, 15:19:16
Yeah im messing with you.
But wanting something more due to fakes is weird.
Yeah a little strange, perhaps in writing. More of a feeling of wanting to support the craftspeople around here even more, in buying from them or otherwise.
Post by: demik on Mon, 25 August 2014, 15:20:38
Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 25 August 2014, 15:27:24
Post by: demik on Mon, 25 August 2014, 15:32:08
Post by: Lurch on Mon, 25 August 2014, 16:07:28
But herbs selling it for x10 the price is okay.This recent wave of fakes actually makes me want a legitimate Clack much more. From what I understand Clack has recently upped his game in making his caps more difficult to fake, so hopefully it will continue to be easy to identify fakes in the future.
Here's to hoping the first Clack I get is a legitimate one :thumb:
So youre okay with fakes
Really hope I didn't come off that way. Are you just joking? I'm not really sure how anyone with even the slightest moral compass could support counterfeit art.
As bad as I want an orangesicle CC, there is no ****ing way you will catch me buying counterfeit ****ing **** from ****ing herbs trying to hustle a quick buck. Go be creative and make up your own ****. ****.
Excuse the profanity... :blank:
A hustle is a hustle.
Yupper... I don't really support that either but it is what it is I guess...
Post by: P3TC0CK on Mon, 25 August 2014, 16:48:12
didn't brobot violate transformersand Iron ManIP to create some of his caps? Or was he able to secure permission to produce them?Q: Was V1 just an Optimus Prime head on a cap?
A: Yes, yes it was. The purpose behind that, was a learning one. To understand how the manufacturing process works, to know how different plastics and materials interact to gain the desired effect. I had no plans to go further than this purpose, and I have learned and grown much from the experience.
He has spoken on this subject before, and isn't really denying anything.
Regardless, it doesn't make it right to steal his work... :confused:
Thanks for the quote. Yeah, I acknowledged it isn't OK especially considering his admission that he changed his ways after the initial run but it's still proof that they've done what these new producers are doing to some degree. Has CC stopped producing Vader caps or any other infringing cap designs?
Quote
Q: Have you collaborated with or endorsed the use of your designs (artistic or functional) by other makers (manufacturer/hobbyist)?
A: 99% of the time NOPE! They either directly copied my work or at best were heavily influenced by it. All of my art is copyrighted.
Quote from the CC FAQ. While I assume the great majority of his keycaps are protected under copyright, the Vader ones are not and is merely in violation of Disney's copyright unless Click Clack has been given explicit permission to produce the caps.
Personally speaking, I have pretty mixed feelings about copyright. I put a lot of the art I create and draw (although I doubt people use it since they're mostly just beginner sketches) into the public domain or under really unrestricted Creative Commons licenses because I recognize Copyright can be very restrictive sometimes. But I do recognize the need to maintain copyright over an object as an amateur broadcaster and artist, especially in the Middle East where copyright is almost non-existent and my work has been used without my permission and with no credit.
What really rubs me the wrong way is hypocrisy. If you're going to still create and produce Vader caps, how can you criticize these guys at all?
Are we allowed to link places where you can buy fake caps or is that against the forum rules even if we clearly mark them as fake?
Post by: Grim Fandango on Mon, 25 August 2014, 16:52:11
Stop selling them for ridiculous prices and they wont be worth their time to clone and resell.100% that
But what do I know.
I dislike people selling clacks for huge profit but I disagree that this is any kind of solution.
The supply is not the problem here, the demand is. If no one were willing to sell them anymore, there would still be people willing to buy them. In fact, if it became completely impossible to buy a legitimate clack it could even be that the demand for the fake ones would increase. You could say that the selling of clacks for inflated prices sets a precedent. But that seems irrelevant now that has already happened and everyone knows that $100 for a clack is nothing out of the ordinary.
I also think that there is a distinction to be made. I could sculpt an ironman figurine, and even though I do not have the license, it would still be my creative work. Even if I admit that using something which license belongs to someone else is wrong, it is still something different from someone taking one of my figurines and start mass producing them. Sure, both are wrong, and we are entering a grey area here, but I still feel there is a difference. Whether that difference is relevant legally probably depends on where you are from. This is an international forum, in Holland the rules for this sort of thing is likely different from the US.
Post by: demik on Mon, 25 August 2014, 16:59:04
Post by: eyesmiles on Mon, 25 August 2014, 17:06:10
In all seriousness though, it hurts to say but this was inevitable. For all those who have purchased clacks at inflated prices (I am guilty of being one of those who have), it's basically our fault this happened; both sellers and buyers. All the bickering of copyright issues and whatnot is just what's on the surface. People would prefer to point fingers at the counterfeiters than acknowledge we are at fault.
Post by: P3TC0CK on Mon, 25 August 2014, 17:16:21
I also think that there is a distinction to be made. I could sculpt an ironman figurine, and even though I do not have the license, it would still be my creative work. Even if I admit that using something which license belongs to someone else is wrong, it is still something different from someone taking one of my figurines and start mass producing them. Sure, both are wrong, and we are entering a grey area here, but I still feel there is a difference. Whether that difference is relevant legally probably depends on where you are from. This is an international forum, in Holland the rules for this sort of thing is likely different from the US.
I don't think most companies mind the creation of fan made work. Actually, you'll find a lot of companies push fans to create fan art. See Riot Games, Valve, Marvel, DC comics, Disney, etc. I think it's more or less confirmed that those companies don't mind fans making their own work and generally don't enforce their copyright against people that do so worldwide. There really isn't a "gray area" but simply companies allowing the general public permission to create works that don't earn profit, and generally being slow to take action against those who are violating their copyright.
That's where the problem comes in; when you start selling and profiting off those works (which CC and these counterfeiters have done/are doing) and has gone unpunished because the companies are most likely unaware, in the case of CC's vader caps, or unable to because of funding in the case of CC and his counterfeiters.
Unless CC lives in a country where copyright law does not apply to him or is weak, I doubt he does since he makes copyright claims to his work, he is in the right to fight the counterfeiters. Although it would be going against his own decisions to use others IP without their permission.
CC needs to show us clear proof that he has permission to use the Star Wars Darth Vader IP or else you can take it that he is fine or at least complicit in this type of behavior and that the counterfeits are more or less following the same rules he does.
The ones I was able to find online aren't marked as click clack caps and even have different names.
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 25 August 2014, 17:26:33
Post by: ekw808 on Mon, 25 August 2014, 17:40:08
meh, demand wasnt there till kisa started paying $$$ for them. then suddenly everybody needed to have one.
If it wasn't kisa, it would have been someone else.
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 25 August 2014, 17:42:31
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 25 August 2014, 18:03:52
The answer is obvious. CC needs to make 10x the caps the faker is releasing as a counterweight!
Nah, just offer a bounty of 10 unique Clacks to whack him. It'll be done before he can blink.
And in response to some of the lame jystifications I see, yes, people willing to pay more than retail and the insane prices made this more probable; however, it still takes an unethical and terrible person to steal another artist's work for profit. This isn't a readymade like Duchamp's fountain where you're getting a critique of art, this is someone stealing someone's work for profit. If he wanted to license it, he could have, but he didn't.
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 25 August 2014, 18:06:30
im working on it with the koreans
if my hunch is right this'll be dealt with in the next 24 hours
if it's wrong (entirely possible) this is a bigger issue than anyone wants it to be
Post by: demik on Mon, 25 August 2014, 18:08:14
We know it's wrong to steal, no need for everybody to keep repeating that ****. How about you look at yourselves as a community and see where it went wrong, where it's going wrong, and how to fix it?
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 25 August 2014, 18:09:58
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 25 August 2014, 18:16:01
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Mon, 25 August 2014, 18:19:28
Please don't do anything lame like dox and ddos the guy. That just makes us look like ****bags too.
+1
Post by: strict on Mon, 25 August 2014, 19:33:07
Please don't do anything lame like dox and ddos the guy. That just makes us look like ****bags too.
This x 1000. The world has enough internet tough guys on Reddit.
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 25 August 2014, 19:40:36
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Post by: Michael on Mon, 25 August 2014, 19:42:43
http://vietnamembassy-usa.org/basic-page/intellectual-property
Probably the easiest way to work with their government to enforce copyrights.
Post by: demik on Mon, 25 August 2014, 19:45:00
FWIW their site now lists them all as out of stock.
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oh **** they had a site and everything?
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 25 August 2014, 19:48:40
FWIW their site now lists them all as out of stock.
(Attachment Link)
oh **** they had a site and everything?
Yes, and a sale, and a countdown timer too. And they even listed how many of each they made.
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 25 August 2014, 19:49:45
Please don't do anything lame like dox and ddos the guy. That just makes us look like ****bags too.
im not about witchhunts, hence all the :triangle: going on
i did manage to figure out that he's likely not doing this as a malicious thing
as far as ive managed to find, it looks like he's not doing this to harm clack as much as he's doing it to make a profit
probably was just fed up that he couldn't get clacks from CC and wanted to help other people who were having trouble as well
also do yourself a favor and stay away from the subreddit for any reasonable discussion
it's a ****hole anyway, but now pir is using (if not now, soon) this as anti-GH/clack bait
As I've said a few times now: CC is the only one who can really do anything. All I can do is try and figure out what the heck is going on on the other end
Post by: demik on Mon, 25 August 2014, 19:50:59
FWIW their site now lists them all as out of stock.
(Attachment Link)
oh **** they had a site and everything?
Yes, and a sale, and a countdown timer too. And they even listed how many of each they made.
more ballsy than druger! at least he tried to launder them.
Post by: strict on Mon, 25 August 2014, 20:25:09
FWIW their site now lists them all as out of stock.
(Attachment Link)
oh **** they had a site and everything?
Yes, and a sale, and a countdown timer too. And they even listed how many of each they made.
more ballsy than druger! at least he tried to launder them.
I was glad to see that at he least changed the FXE and CF signatures to his own K3 signature so they would be readily identifiable as fraudulent.
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 25 August 2014, 20:51:19
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 25 August 2014, 20:57:23
Kinda difficult to applaud them though.
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 25 August 2014, 21:06:09
Post by: HipsterPunks on Mon, 25 August 2014, 21:36:33
Not only the different stamp, but look how deep/hollow those are as opposed to the solid filling in clacks and brobots. Not the same thickness either. I am curious how these stand up to the boil/microwave/acid tests that clacks are able to come out of unscathed.
They are clack bottoms you can see where he just clayed over the logos and put his mark. There is a slight bump where the logos are. Actually i think i still see some of the fxe corner on the MX ones :/
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 25 August 2014, 21:38:22
FWIW their site now lists them all as out of stock.
(Attachment Link)
oh **** they had a site and everything?
Yeah.. Online store.. That's insane! :eek:
Post by: kEkc.com on Mon, 25 August 2014, 22:32:13
(http://i.imgur.com/udb3tEL.jpg)
Post by: bueller on Mon, 25 August 2014, 22:33:14
ready fly to Korea!Go away. Can't you ****ing tell you're not welcome here? Piece of ****.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/udb3tEL.jpg)
Post by: demik on Mon, 25 August 2014, 22:34:14
ready fly to Korea!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/udb3tEL.jpg)
haha god damn you got some balls
can't even hate
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 25 August 2014, 22:34:40
ready fly to Korea!Every post makes me hate you more and more..Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/udb3tEL.jpg)
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 25 August 2014, 22:35:37
ready fly to Korea!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/udb3tEL.jpg)
troll level 99
Post by: demik on Mon, 25 August 2014, 22:36:01
Post by: digi on Mon, 25 August 2014, 22:36:10
ready fly to Korea!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/udb3tEL.jpg)
if you got balls you'll post names of the buyers..
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 25 August 2014, 22:38:40
ready fly to Korea!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/udb3tEL.jpg)
if you got balls you'll post names of the buyers..
Just go look at reddit, I'd say it's pretty clear who is all about buying some fake clacks.
Post by: digi on Mon, 25 August 2014, 22:40:22
ready fly to Korea!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/udb3tEL.jpg)
if you got balls you'll post names of the buyers..
Just go look at reddit, I'd say it's pretty clear who is all about buying some fake clacks.
I don't do reddit, only read it today due to this discussion..i'll assume most of those scrubs don't care and will buy them.
I want the GH names.
Post by: bueller on Mon, 25 August 2014, 22:42:02
They'll start showing up eventually, people can't help but post pics.ready fly to Korea!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/udb3tEL.jpg)
if you got balls you'll post names of the buyers..
Just go look at reddit, I'd say it's pretty clear who is all about buying some fake clacks.
I don't do reddit, only read it today due to this discussion..i'll assume most of those scrubs don't care and will buy them.
I want the GH names.
Post by: demik on Mon, 25 August 2014, 22:45:51
ready fly to Korea!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/udb3tEL.jpg)
if you got balls you'll post names of the buyers..
Just go look at reddit, I'd say it's pretty clear who is all about buying some fake clacks.
I don't do reddit, only read it today due to this discussion..i'll assume most of those scrubs don't care and will buy them.
I want the GH names.
i doubt GHers would ruin their chances of joining the cool kids club with legit CCs by buying from that dude.
probably just people from asia buying them since it's impossible for them to get any or people from /r/MK that just like the design and not the drama behind it
Post by: K3keycap1 on Mon, 25 August 2014, 22:51:28
(http://i.imgur.com/VYcAjQb.jpg)
Thanks 4 comments!
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 25 August 2014, 22:53:24
coming soonShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/VYcAjQb.jpg)
Thanks 4 comments!
Oh, such troll.
Post by: demik on Mon, 25 August 2014, 22:53:33
coming soonShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/VYcAjQb.jpg)
Thanks 4 comments!
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/Sniperscope.jpg)
mods right meow
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 25 August 2014, 22:55:12
so i'm getting far
Post by: demik on Mon, 25 August 2014, 22:56:26
it's real easy to pull a lot of info from these posts
so i'm getting far
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llcjsbi2Sw1qi7wv6o1_500.jpg)
Post by: digi on Mon, 25 August 2014, 22:57:11
it's real easy to pull a lot of info from these posts
so i'm getting farShow Image(http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llcjsbi2Sw1qi7wv6o1_500.jpg)
top flight unarmed security guards....i'll die for this ****.
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 25 August 2014, 23:00:12
Post by: demik on Mon, 25 August 2014, 23:02:49
Points for persistence though - creating multiple accounts (which violates GH terms of membership, btw) in order to post pictures no-one wants to see!doesn't matter when one of the admins has 2 usernames
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 25 August 2014, 23:09:06
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 25 August 2014, 23:09:55
This guy's an ultimate troll. :))
K3keycap, demik, or the admin?
Post by: demik on Mon, 25 August 2014, 23:10:52
This guy's an ultimate troll. :))
K3keycap, demik, or the admin?
rude!
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 25 August 2014, 23:13:05
This guy's an ultimate troll. :))
K3keycap, demik, or the admin?
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/010/390/pC8jf5t4eWCDKcMu.jpg)
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 25 August 2014, 23:14:14
This guy's an ultimate troll. :))
K3keycap, demik, or the admin?
rude!
I wasn't going to list you, but thought you might be upset if I missed you out.
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 25 August 2014, 23:14:14
This guy's an ultimate troll. :))
K3keycap, demik, or the admin?
rude!
The dude with the rude tude!
Post by: demik on Mon, 25 August 2014, 23:15:08
This guy's an ultimate troll. :))
K3keycap, demik, or the admin?
rude!
The dude with the rude tude!
THE RUDE DUDE DUDE THE TUDES THE RUDE
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 25 August 2014, 23:16:30
gonna send CC all the info i have tomorrow
Post by: digi on Mon, 25 August 2014, 23:18:58
i think it's time to call it a night
gonna send CC all the info i have tomorrow
(http://www.dieselcrew.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/dowork.jpg)
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 25 August 2014, 23:20:27
Crude eludes me like prudes exuded from a stude etude.
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 25 August 2014, 23:22:02
This guy's an ultimate troll. :))
K3keycap, demik, or the admin?
rude!
The dude with the rude tude!
THE RUDE DUDE DUDE THE TUDES THE RUDE
Ayoooo!
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 25 August 2014, 23:47:55
Points for persistence though - creating multiple accounts (which violates GH terms of membership, btw) in order to post pictures no-one wants to see!doesn't matter when one of the admins has 2 usernames
Well, so does Click Clack.
Still, this douchebag is too much.
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 25 August 2014, 23:48:50
Points for persistence though - creating multiple accounts (which violates GH terms of membership, btw) in order to post pictures no-one wants to see!doesn't matter when one of the admins has 2 usernames
Well, so does Click Clack.
Still, this douchebag is too much.
Ah, but isn't one of CC's accounts used by his gnomes, who post updates when CC is not around?
Post by: demik on Mon, 25 August 2014, 23:50:25
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 25 August 2014, 23:51:46
Points for persistence though - creating multiple accounts (which violates GH terms of membership, btw) in order to post pictures no-one wants to see!doesn't matter when one of the admins has 2 usernames
Well, so does Click Clack.
Still, this douchebag is too much.
Ah, but isn't one of CC's accounts used by his gnomes, who post updates when CC is not around?
I think one is vendor, one is personal. Still technically violates the rules.
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 25 August 2014, 23:55:31
But especially the GH admins.
Good idea. Just let this guy keep posting his free publicity. How else will he grow his customer base?
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 25 August 2014, 23:57:02
Basically we just all helped facilitate these selling out immediately.
But especially the GH admins.
Good idea. Just let this guy keep posting his free publicity. How else will he grow his customer base?
But the sale doesn't even start for another four and a half days! At least according to his official countdown timer.
Post by: StylinGreymon on Mon, 25 August 2014, 23:59:23
I have a bit a of a passing interest in bootlegs and forgeries.
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 26 August 2014, 00:00:01
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 26 August 2014, 00:00:11
If I were to say that I want one, would that make me some sort of Nazi hellbeast?
I have a bit a of a passing interest in bootlegs and forgeries.
Do you really need to ask that?
Post by: demik on Tue, 26 August 2014, 00:01:15
You know what would actually be amazing? If this dude just up and stole everyone's money because this entire thing was merely an elaborate ruse to teach people who support counterfeiters a lesson.
and team scamline did the same so people will learn not to blindly trust.
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 26 August 2014, 00:01:56
You know what would actually be amazing? If this dude just up and stole everyone's money because this entire thing was merely an elaborate ruse to teach people who support counterfeiters a lesson.
and team scamline did the same so people will learn not to blindly trust.
How many more of these will we need to really learn our lesson?
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 26 August 2014, 00:02:47
Well I won't say it, then.If I were to say that I want one, would that make me some sort of Nazi hellbeast?
I have a bit a of a passing interest in bootlegs and forgeries.
Do you really need to ask that?
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 26 August 2014, 00:03:10
Well I won't say it, then.If I were to say that I want one, would that make me some sort of Nazi hellbeast?
I have a bit a of a passing interest in bootlegs and forgeries.
Do you really need to ask that?
Probably best!
Post by: demik on Tue, 26 August 2014, 00:04:07
You know what would actually be amazing? If this dude just up and stole everyone's money because this entire thing was merely an elaborate ruse to teach people who support counterfeiters a lesson.
and team scamline did the same so people will learn not to blindly trust.
How many more of these will we need to really learn our lesson?
well im looking to buy a car maybe i can teach you guys a lesson also??
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 26 August 2014, 00:04:34
You know what would actually be amazing? If this dude just up and stole everyone's money because this entire thing was merely an elaborate ruse to teach people who support counterfeiters a lesson.
and team scamline did the same so people will learn not to blindly trust.
How many more of these will we need to really learn our lesson?
well im looking to buy a car maybe i can teach you guys a lesson also??
What happened to your bike?
Post by: demik on Tue, 26 August 2014, 00:07:39
You know what would actually be amazing? If this dude just up and stole everyone's money because this entire thing was merely an elaborate ruse to teach people who support counterfeiters a lesson.
and team scamline did the same so people will learn not to blindly trust.
How many more of these will we need to really learn our lesson?
well im looking to buy a car maybe i can teach you guys a lesson also??
What happened to your bike?
almost died
got busy with work
currently hanging next to me
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 26 August 2014, 00:08:08
You know what would actually be amazing? If this dude just up and stole everyone's money because this entire thing was merely an elaborate ruse to teach people who support counterfeiters a lesson.
and team scamline did the same so people will learn not to blindly trust.
How many more of these will we need to really learn our lesson?
well im looking to buy a car maybe i can teach you guys a lesson also??
What happened to your bike?
almost died
got busy with work
currently hanging next to me
Damn!
Post by: Lu_e on Tue, 26 August 2014, 01:38:33
If you were OK with Vader caps and the selling of them then you should be OK with what the counterfeiters are doing.
Different things going on...
There's;
1. What these (& other) derps did (in regards to 'scull' caps); created a 'duplicate' mold USING the genuine, related product. Result being a near-exact copy of an identical product (keycap), & even an attempt at color copy. Copying, producing, and selling the 'identical' character/product (CF Skull/keycap) which already exists. Replacing the original artists/company's signature with their own.
2. What Bro Bot did (in regards to BroBot V1); created a mold by re-purposing a completely unrelated* product with minimal sculpting of their own. A toy/figurine re-purposed to create a model, which was used to create the mold, used to create keycaps, a completely unrelated* product to the original toy/figurine. A character/product that did not previously exist in keycap form.
3. What ClackFactory did (in regards to Vader); POSSIBLY SAME AS #2 ABOVE OR, created a mold using an original hand sculpted model, HEAVILY influenced by a completely unrelated* product/character. A character/product that did not previously exist in keycap form.
*unrelated to keyboards
Of course this is my own interpretation & thoughts on postings I've seen on this forum. Things get even more cloudy if you bring other things into it.
Post by: tbc on Tue, 26 August 2014, 02:06:23
they keep insisting every aftermarket clack is 200 or more......
Post by: Grim Fandango on Tue, 26 August 2014, 02:16:30
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/186/553/1266784038597.jpg)
I wonder how much of the posts by K3keycap are trolling and how much of it is successful advertisement to people browsing geekhack. With the popularity of these keycaps on this forum I think it is safe to assume that there will be at least a few willing to buy them.
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 26 August 2014, 02:18:12
Post by: Grim Fandango on Tue, 26 August 2014, 02:29:55
He still has a better website than CC though...
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/631bed727b2094003dff42c8e5b6472d/tumblr_n8w8jifArx1san1pwo2_500.gif)
Post by: P3TC0CK on Tue, 26 August 2014, 02:38:07
If you were OK with Vader caps and the selling of them then you should be OK with what the counterfeiters are doing.
Different things going on...
There's;
1. What these (& other) derps did (in regards to 'scull' caps); created a 'duplicate' mold USING the genuine, related product. Result being a near-exact copy of an identical product (keycap), & even an attempt at color copy. Copying, producing, and selling the 'identical' character/product (CF Skull/keycap) which already exists. Replacing the original artists/company's signature with their own.
Copyright doesn't care what the product is or how you've violated someone's intellectual property. Unless it's protected by fair use, all derivative works are covered by copyright. You can't make anything unless you get explicit permission from the owner to copy that product, whether it be a mug, a statue, or a keycap.
CC violated/ violates copyright willfully, and everyone in this thread acts as if he's any different than the copycats here. He took a previously created character (Darth Vader), put it on his key caps, and then put his own signature on it.
Everyone in this thread is so blinded by their obsession with CC/ novelty keycaps they can't see that. This is a clear cut issue unless CC has gotten explicit permission to do so, it would be impossible to sell his caps under fair use.
If the mods are going to ban/punish people who violate CC's copyright, or Cherry's trademark, why doesn't CC get punished for his continued violation of other's copyright?
2. What Bro Bot did (in regards to BroBot V1); created a mold by re-purposing a completely unrelated* product with minimal sculpting of their own. A toy/figurine re-purposed to create a model, which was used to create the mold, used to create keycaps, a completely unrelated* product to the original toy/figurine. A character/product that did not previously exist in keycap form.
It doesn't matter if it's "unrelated to keyboards", that's not how copyright works. See "fair use" in my previous post as described by the US Government on page 23/ 24 of this thread. He even admitted he was wrong to do so, so there's no reason to argue about the initial run of brobots.
3. What ClackFactory did (in regards to Vader); POSSIBLY SAME AS #2 ABOVE OR, created a mold using an original hand sculpted model, HEAVILY influenced by a completely unrelated* product/character. A character/product that did not previously exist in keycap form.
Heavily influenced? So the fact that CC calls them Vaders, the fact that they look EXACTLY like Darth Vader, isn't enough for you to understand that they are a clear rip-off of Star Wars IP?
Lets say I took Mickey Mouse, made a character "Heavily influenced" by him, called him Mickey, and put him on a product Disney hasn't created before. No one in their right mind would think I'm protected and Disney would sue me into oblivion if I became known to them and ignored their C&D letters.
*unrelated to keyboards
Just because a company doesn't make a product doesn't mean they can't protect their copyright. Copyright protects all derivative works unless under fair use. Whether you're making a Darth Vader toilet scrubber or key cap is irrelevant to the argument.
Of course this is my own interpretation & thoughts on postings I've seen on this forum. Things get even more cloudy if you bring other things into it.
I don't think you have even a superficial understanding of how copyright works and most of the people on this thread don't either. I'm not saying I'm a copyright lawyer, but just reading the rules of what constitutes fair use under copyright it is clear that CC has no ground to talk about counterfeiters.
Post by: Halverson on Tue, 26 August 2014, 02:38:20
He still has a better website than CC though...
Ohhh, harsh!
Post by: madhias on Tue, 26 August 2014, 02:41:03
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 26 August 2014, 02:43:42
Show Image(http://666kb.com/i/cr9lybll89zrm4t6w.jpg)
HA! This just made my night. Awesome :)
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 26 August 2014, 02:44:55
So that's what was in the suitcase in Pulp Fiction...Show Image(http://666kb.com/i/cr9m1ckfi1mfca4so.jpg)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Tue, 26 August 2014, 02:56:37
So that's what was in the suitcase in Pulp Fiction...Show Image(http://666kb.com/i/cr9m1ckfi1mfca4so.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/cFAZSpx.jpg)
Post by: StylinGreymon on Tue, 26 August 2014, 03:08:47
Post by: VesperSAINT on Tue, 26 August 2014, 03:24:02
Post by: Grim Fandango on Tue, 26 August 2014, 04:36:22
In all seriousness though, I really hope this gets taken care of and dealt with. To think CC only just came back after having to deal with the last event... he really doesn't need this.
Agreed. I know people are having all sorts of complicated discussions about this. But at least I think we can all agree that it is simply a ****ty thing to do.
Post by: Mooby on Tue, 26 August 2014, 05:51:28
If you were OK with Vader caps and the selling of them then you should be OK with what the counterfeiters are doing.
Different things going on...
There's;
1. What these (& other) derps did (in regards to 'scull' caps); created a 'duplicate' mold USING the genuine, related product. Result being a near-exact copy of an identical product (keycap), & even an attempt at color copy. Copying, producing, and selling the 'identical' character/product (CF Skull/keycap) which already exists. Replacing the original artists/company's signature with their own.
Copyright doesn't care what the product is or how you've violated someone's intellectual property. Unless it's protected by fair use, all derivative works are covered by copyright. You can't make anything unless you get explicit permission from the owner to copy that product, whether it be a mug, a statue, or a keycap.
CC violated/ violates copyright willfully, and everyone in this thread acts as if he's any different than the copycats here. He took a previously created character (Darth Vader), put it on his key caps, and then put his own signature on it.
Everyone in this thread is so blinded by their obsession with CC/ novelty keycaps they can't see that. This is a clear cut issue unless CC has gotten explicit permission to do so, it would be impossible to sell his caps under fair use.
If the mods are going to ban/punish people who violate CC's copyright, or Cherry's trademark, why doesn't CC get punished for his continued violation of other's copyright?2. What Bro Bot did (in regards to BroBot V1); created a mold by re-purposing a completely unrelated* product with minimal sculpting of their own. A toy/figurine re-purposed to create a model, which was used to create the mold, used to create keycaps, a completely unrelated* product to the original toy/figurine. A character/product that did not previously exist in keycap form.
It doesn't matter if it's "unrelated to keyboards", that's not how copyright works. See "fair use" in my previous post as described by the US Government on page 23/ 24 of this thread. He even admitted he was wrong to do so, so there's no reason to argue about the initial run of brobots.3. What ClackFactory did (in regards to Vader); POSSIBLY SAME AS #2 ABOVE OR, created a mold using an original hand sculpted model, HEAVILY influenced by a completely unrelated* product/character. A character/product that did not previously exist in keycap form.
Heavily influenced? So the fact that CC calls them Vaders, the fact that they look EXACTLY like Darth Vader, isn't enough for you to understand that they are a clear rip-off of Star Wars IP?
Lets say I took Mickey Mouse, made a character "Heavily influenced" by him, called him Mickey, and put him on a product Disney hasn't created before. No one in their right mind would think I'm protected and Disney would sue me into oblivion if I became known to them and ignored their C&D letters.*unrelated to keyboards
Just because a company doesn't make a product doesn't mean they can't protect their copyright. Copyright protects all derivative works unless under fair use. Whether you're making a Darth Vader toilet scrubber or key cap is irrelevant to the argument.Of course this is my own interpretation & thoughts on postings I've seen on this forum. Things get even more cloudy if you bring other things into it.
I don't think you have even a superficial understanding of how copyright works and most of the people on this thread don't either. I'm not saying I'm a copyright lawyer, but just reading the rules of what constitutes fair use under copyright it is clear that CC has no ground to talk about counterfeiters.
It's ok to **** on other's copyrights as long as this doesn't hurt Geekhacks keycap economy. Simple rule.
Post by: baldgye on Tue, 26 August 2014, 06:03:45
Post by: Mooby on Tue, 26 August 2014, 06:16:14
Mooby, you can infringe on people's copyrights as much as you like, long as you don't get caught. I'm pretty sure good ol'George could - if he know/cared - shut down CC's or anyone else's StarWars caps. But he didn't, and so they stand. It's simple enough to follow.
I was referring to the moral standpoint as our community sometimes develops a blind spot regarding this topic.
Post by: P3TC0CK on Tue, 26 August 2014, 06:36:58
Mooby, you can infringe on people's copyrights as much as you like, long as you don't get caught. I'm pretty sure good ol'George could - if he know/cared - shut down CC's or anyone else's StarWars caps. But he didn't, and so they stand. It's simple enough to follow.
I don't think George Lucas holds the copy right anymore, Disney does. As for whether you can "infringe on people's copyrights as much as you like" is like saying "you can shop lift as much as you like, long as you don't get caught". It's still an illegal action, and there are no questions it's morally wrong if you consider IP theft a morally wrong thing.
Just because you don't get caught shop lifting doesn't mean what you're doing is fine.
A lot of people infringe others copyrights, that doesn't make it OK because the company has yet to take action against them.
It's clear CC is fine with stealing other people's IP, so it would stand that he should be OK with other's stealing his. I think that's simple enough to follow don't you think?
I was referring to the moral standpoint as our community sometimes develops a blind spot regarding this topic.
It's pretty ridiculous. Seeing as what I've gleamed from reading past threads a lot of people here including the administration are committed to respecting trademarks, copyright, etc but when it comes to issues like these it's fine. CC counterfeiters are banned but it's fine that novelty keycap makers are violating copyright.
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 26 August 2014, 06:46:42
So that's what was in the suitcase in Pulp Fiction...Show Image(http://666kb.com/i/cr9m1ckfi1mfca4so.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cFAZSpx.jpg)
"Does Marsalis Wallace look like a *****?!"
Ey man, may I interest you in some clack reps? ****ing street hawks.
These ****ing guys.. >:D
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 26 August 2014, 06:49:29
Mooby, you can infringe on people's copyrights as much as you like, long as you don't get caught. I'm pretty sure good ol'George could - if he know/cared - shut down CC's or anyone else's StarWars caps. But he didn't, and so they stand. It's simple enough to follow.
I don't think George Lucas holds the copy right anymore, Disney does. As for whether you can "infringe on people's copyrights as much as you like" is like saying "you can shop lift as much as you like, long as you don't get caught". It's still an illegal action, and there are no questions it's morally wrong if you consider IP theft a morally wrong thing.
Just because you don't get caught shop lifting doesn't mean what you're doing is fine.
A lot of people infringe others copyrights, that doesn't make it OK because the company has yet to take action against them.
It's clear CC is fine with stealing other people's IP, so it would stand that he should be OK with other's stealing his. I think that's simple enough to follow don't you think?I was referring to the moral standpoint as our community sometimes develops a blind spot regarding this topic.
It's pretty ridiculous. Seeing as what I've gleamed from reading past threads a lot of people here including the administration are committed to respecting trademarks, copyright, etc but when it comes to issues like these it's fine. CC counterfeiters are banned but it's fine that novelty keycap makers are violating copyright.
Did Disney make topre or mx key caps? Different story man. These guys are copying a keycap design. Get the hell out of here.
Post by: bueller on Tue, 26 August 2014, 06:53:35
Post by: P3TC0CK on Tue, 26 August 2014, 06:56:25
Did Disney make topre or mx key caps? Different story man. These guys are copying a keycap design. Get the hell out of here.
That's not how copyright works. Just because you did not make a product does not mean you lose your ability to do so. The Vader Idea/concept is protected under copyright meaning what CC is doing in producing them is violating someone else's copyright. That means any products that use that image, regardless if they produced a keycap, is protected by copyright.
You are wrong, you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to copyright if you think you can that his keycaps are in the clear.
Post by: demik on Tue, 26 August 2014, 07:08:42
Mooby, you can infringe on people's copyrights as much as you like, long as you don't get caught. I'm pretty sure good ol'George could - if he know/cared - shut down CC's or anyone else's StarWars caps. But he didn't, and so they stand. It's simple enough to follow.
I don't think George Lucas holds the copy right anymore, Disney does. As for whether you can "infringe on people's copyrights as much as you like" is like saying "you can shop lift as much as you like, long as you don't get caught". It's still an illegal action, and there are no questions it's morally wrong if you consider IP theft a morally wrong thing.
Just because you don't get caught shop lifting doesn't mean what you're doing is fine.
A lot of people infringe others copyrights, that doesn't make it OK because the company has yet to take action against them.
It's clear CC is fine with stealing other people's IP, so it would stand that he should be OK with other's stealing his. I think that's simple enough to follow don't you think?I was referring to the moral standpoint as our community sometimes develops a blind spot regarding this topic.
It's pretty ridiculous. Seeing as what I've gleamed from reading past threads a lot of people here including the administration are committed to respecting trademarks, copyright, etc but when it comes to issues like these it's fine. CC counterfeiters are banned but it's fine that novelty keycap makers are violating copyright.
Did Disney make topre or mx key caps? Different story man. These guys are copying a keycap design. Get the hell out of here.
Lol what
Post by: Candyflip on Tue, 26 August 2014, 07:17:24
Has Clack actually ever charged for the Vader caps? If not then he's free to make as many as he damn well pleases.
Yes he did around $50 I believe..
Post by: Grim Fandango on Tue, 26 August 2014, 07:20:09
Even if we agree that keycapmakers have been wrong when making derivative work without authorization, then that does not mean that someone else is not wrong when they make a similar mistake. Also, subjectively and personally (not legally or theoretically) I felt that making keycaps using images and characters that are trademarked was relatively harmless. Not in the broad, general sense, since god knows how many people make money of these IP's with unlicensed products, but in the context of making a few artisan keycaps and selling them on Geekhack. In comparison, making an exact copy of an exact product that will actually hurt the original creator of the product feels more harmful, more unfair, and more like imitation for the sole reason to make a quick buck from someone else's work.
I know, who gives a **** about how you feel about something right? But since we always use our own subjective judgment when deciding what is ok and what is not ok on this forum in any other situation (for better or for worse) I will do the same thing here instead of attempting to fulfill the role of some sort of improvised forum supreme court without any legal training.
Though even if you do consider the law in this case, I would think that you would have to at least consider fair use. Things might not be as black and white as people claim. I admit I know very little about it. But it is not like it truly does not matter whether you make a new work using the shape or image from a trademarked character or whether you make a direct copy of something. Law, in most developed countries, is not completely without nuance. People imply it is the same thing, but it does not seem to be. Perhaps the most important thing is that in fair use, a subjective sense of right and wrong is used and it is decided on for each individual case. Someone making a few novelty keycaps? Not so sure what would happen. And I say that knowing that whether or not Disney sells keycaps does not matter, and what matters is how the potential of the market is diminished. Indeed, their intention to sell keycaps is irrelevant. Even then, there are other factors that are of importance.
Not that I personally need a book to tell me what is right and wrong. And what I need even less is some vague idea of the content of a book. That does not sound like something I would use as a moral or a legal compass.
Post by: Mooby on Tue, 26 August 2014, 07:46:06
Post by: baldgye on Tue, 26 August 2014, 07:46:31
Mooby, you can infringe on people's copyrights as much as you like, long as you don't get caught. I'm pretty sure good ol'George could - if he know/cared - shut down CC's or anyone else's StarWars caps. But he didn't, and so they stand. It's simple enough to follow.
I don't think George Lucas holds the copy right anymore, Disney does.
Thanks for playing!
Post by: Fire Brand on Tue, 26 August 2014, 08:04:11
Did Disney make topre or mx key caps? Different story man. These guys are copying a keycap design. Get the hell out of here.
Lol what
I agree with this last comment :confused: right to the point really
I think this will always be a grey area, my thoughts are I don't like them getting copied but what can you do, I think he should follow through on the copyright and stop them being sold/made but I just hope it does not get stung if the vader key gets brought up down the line.
Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 26 August 2014, 08:32:38
This is not a community of copyright enthusiasts. Right now it's largely a community of folks frustrated that one of their members is being exploited. And while I believe it's safe to say that Disney has little chance of being inflicted with measurable harm by a Vader cap, identical products have a very real chance of harming CC. (And Bro Caps if the guy goes after those as well.)
So when anyone says "copyright infringement," what they really mean is "decency infringement." Frankly I care about that last one a whole lot more.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 26 August 2014, 08:35:53
Why are we talking about copyright when everyone actually frustrated wants people to just act decently? "Go read a book about copyright and then come complain about CC fakes." *whoosh* and the entire point of this discussion goes over someone's head. To make it more clear:
This is not a community of copyright enthusiasts. Right now it's largely a community of folks frustrated that one of their members is being exploited. And while I believe it's safe to say that Disney has little chance of being inflicted with measurable harm by a Vader cap, identical products have a very real chance of harming CC. (And Bro Caps if the guy goes after those as well.)
So when anyone says "copyright infringement," what they really mean is "decency infringement." Frankly I care about that last one a whole lot more.
keyword = community :thumb:
Post by: JinDesu on Tue, 26 August 2014, 09:00:19
Why are we talking about copyright when everyone actually frustrated wants people to just act decently? "Go read a book about copyright and then come complain about CC fakes." *whoosh* and the entire point of this discussion goes over someone's head. To make it more clear:
This is not a community of copyright enthusiasts. Right now it's largely a community of folks frustrated that one of their members is being exploited. And while I believe it's safe to say that Disney has little chance of being inflicted with measurable harm by a Vader cap, identical products have a very real chance of harming CC. (And Bro Caps if the guy goes after those as well.)
So when anyone says "copyright infringement," what they really mean is "decency infringement." Frankly I care about that last one a whole lot more.
Well I think the whole discussion came up when people were saying that CC should invoke copyright infringement. If it's about decency/protecting artisans from this forums, that's fine - call it what it is. Call for a forum-wide embargo on the fake clacks, and spread the word. But mention copyright infringement, and you will get this turn-about discussion.
I think all the artisan cap makers should just STOP making caps then see what people think about it.
Then suddenly fake clacks become more popular lol
Post by: Xowie on Tue, 26 August 2014, 09:56:10
Why are we talking about copyright when everyone actually frustrated wants people to just act decently? "Go read a book about copyright and then come complain about CC fakes." *whoosh* and the entire point of this discussion goes over someone's head. To make it more clear:I *think* some people think that it is hard to claim the moral high road on something that originally was possibly not too moral to begin with.
And while I believe it's safe to say that Disney has little chance of being inflicted with measurable harm by a Vader cap, identical products have a very real chance of harming CC. (And Bro Caps if the guy goes after those as well.)I think that this is an interesting comment for a couple points. The first is that it seems to imply the morality of the situation is dictated by the impact. The second is that there would be more impact to CC than Disney. It is not clear to me that CC will have trouble selling his clacks with the addition of these fakes.
So when anyone says "copyright infringement," what they really mean is "decency infringement." Frankly I care about that last one a whole lot more.I mean if K3, said he was just doing it to learn about the Cap making process, would everything be cool?
Quote
Q: Was V1 just an Optimus Prime head on a cap?
A: Yes, yes it was. The purpose behind that, was a learning one. To understand how the manufacturing process works, to know how different plastics and materials interact to gain the desired effect. I had no plans to go further than this purpose, and I have learned and grown much from the experience.
Again, this post is purposefully contrary. I personally think it is a shame that CC and perhaps Bro have to go through all of this hassle for a hobby that benefits the GH community.
Post by: redskull on Tue, 26 August 2014, 10:06:28
the 'community' needs to man up, make clear notice of the original prices of artisan caps and not let sellers sell them inflated. never recommend and confirm stupid price hikes. decency? walk the talk.
Post by: JinDesu on Tue, 26 August 2014, 10:08:45
i think the 'community' has some share of blame as well. its one thing if an unknown noob lurker won a cap and wants to flip it x10 the original price, its that the regulars that keep on insisting the 'exclusivity' and 'value' of the said caps at those insane prices that keep things going like it is. how can someone that has never gotten into mechanical keyboards stuff has the balls to demand $200-$300 for a cap? where did he/she get the idea that the piece of plastic he/she WON OUT OF LUCK can be worth that much?
the 'community' needs to man up, make clear notice of the original prices of artisan caps and not let sellers sell them inflated. never recommend and confirm stupid price hikes. decency? walk the talk.
I don't think you can stop people bring selling them inflated. You can "not recommend" and "confirm" the prices, but if someone wants a cap and wants to throw a ****load of money at it, you can't stop someone from pricing it in that range.
That being said, I'll never spend the extreme amounts on the artisan caps, and if I sell the ones I have I would price them at what I got them for.
Post by: Rewind on Tue, 26 August 2014, 10:19:25
I never pirate games anymore as everything I desire is available on Steam. I think a lot of people are with me on this. Actually buying the games on steam is easier and a better experience overall - plus you're actually supporting the people who are responsible for your entertainment.
There is more demand than supply. While it is ****ty, I understand why someone would start and supply "fakes".
Personally I'm not interested in fake clacks at all. Mostly because it's awful for the original cap makers. If there was a way for them to supply more, I'm sure less people would be interested in fakes. Keep in mind that when there is enough supply, they will no longer be as exclusive and people would probably lose interest overall. There has to be a balance for it to work.
Post by: redskull on Tue, 26 August 2014, 10:23:27
this my point exactly. congrats on not supporting insane price hikes, but if we keep on 'insisting' on the high prices, someone else somewhere would 'insist' to justify them copying instead of buying. most of these caps are bought at sales, hence their original prices. so it means, somewhere down the chain, someone decided to jack it up, knowing that they can do since not only the caps are very wanted, but there are some regulars that are willing to throw the money and keep on recommending the said hiked price.i think the 'community' has some share of blame as well. its one thing if an unknown noob lurker won a cap and wants to flip it x10 the original price, its that the regulars that keep on insisting the 'exclusivity' and 'value' of the said caps at those insane prices that keep things going like it is. how can someone that has never gotten into mechanical keyboards stuff has the balls to demand $200-$300 for a cap? where did he/she get the idea that the piece of plastic he/she WON OUT OF LUCK can be worth that much?
the 'community' needs to man up, make clear notice of the original prices of artisan caps and not let sellers sell them inflated. never recommend and confirm stupid price hikes. decency? walk the talk.
I don't think you can stop people bring selling them inflated. You can "not recommend" and "confirm" the prices, but if someone wants a cap and wants to throw a ****load of money at it, you can't stop someone from pricing it in that range.
That being said, I'll never spend the extreme amounts on the artisan caps, and if I sell the ones I have I would price them at what I got them for.
as an example, the nightowl CC was on sale from EK at below $50. after that, none is made anymore, it gets rare. yes, since its rare, the price can go up, but why keep on insisting in the clack valuation thread that the cap is at $200? now, that someone with very little need and desire for it, that WON IT OUT OF LUCK, can go pm people looking for it and demand that price.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 26 August 2014, 10:24:10
I think this issue can be compared to movie/software piracy. The only reason I pirate movies is because paying for a movie requires much more effort, I'll either have to go to the movie theater or rent it. Netflix has become a kind of solution, but I still pirate everything I want to see that is not on Netflix.
I never pirate games anymore as everything I desire is available on Steam. I think a lot of people are with me on this. Actually buying the games on steam is easier and a better experience overall - plus you're actually supporting the people who are responsible for your entertainment.
There is more demand than supply. While it is ****ty, I understand why someone would start and supply "fakes".
Personally I'm not interested in fake clacks at all. Mostly because it's awful for the original cap makers. If there was a way for them to supply more, I'm sure less people would be interested in fakes. Keep in mind that when there is enough supply, they will no longer be as exclusive and people would probably lose interest overall. There has to be a balance for it to work.
Really though? I mean, it's like if your buddy records an album and you pirate it. That's just insulting.
Post by: eth0s on Tue, 26 August 2014, 10:25:37
Same thing goes with Disney and the Darth Vader copyright: they don't want to crack down on an enthusiastic fan for promoting their character. CC is not cutting into Disney's profit margin, so they don't care. Also, CC may have an argument that what he's doing is a "parody", which is okay under copyright law, especially the red Vaders. However, even though I'm sure Disney doesn't give a rat's @ss about CC and his Vader caps, they are worried about losing their copyright, and if they let too many people use it for free, the copyright can actually become part of the public domain, which would hurt their profit margin quite a bit. So they have to walk a fine line between and losing their copyright protection, but still allowing avid Star Wars (c) fans to continue to be enthusiastic about the Star Wars (c) franchise, which means that they have to allow a certain amount of fan-created items, and even fan fiction. This in the end helps Disney make even more money by selling more licensed Star Wars (c) merchandise and selling more tickets to the movies. Lego recently had a similar internal debate, and has recently decided to embrace their fans and their fan-created items, rather than suing them, as they did in the past.
As for CC making Vaders, like I said before, he would probably argue that he made them for his friends as a "parody", which is perfectly legal. As for CC trying to protect his own copyright, that is also perfectly understandable and totally correct. CC's caps are distinctive and well-known, which is exactly the type of thing copyright law was invented to protect.
And finally, please don't feel sorry for Disney or George Lucas. Please remember that Walt Disney was a virulent anti-semite, a racist, and a Nazi sympathizer before WWII (this is all true, look it up). And as for George Lucas, he stole the idea for his original 1977 Star Wars IV: A New Hope from an Akira Kurosawa samurai movie called: The Hidden Fortress. Lucas did not steal the entire Kurosawa movie, but he did lift a lot of material including the two comedic servants which became the droids. Other parts of his movie were lifted from other movies, he was like the original Quentin Tarantino.
Post by: Lurch on Tue, 26 August 2014, 10:26:17
I think this issue can be compared to movie/software piracy. The only reason I pirate movies is because paying for a movie requires much more effort, I'll either have to go to the movie theater or rent it. Netflix has become a kind of solution, but I still pirate everything I want to see that is not on Netflix.
I never pirate games anymore as everything I desire is available on Steam. I think a lot of people are with me on this. Actually buying the games on steam is easier and a better experience overall - plus you're actually supporting the people who are responsible for your entertainment.
There is more demand than supply. While it is ****ty, I understand why someone would start and supply "fakes".
Personally I'm not interested in fake clacks at all. Mostly because it's awful for the original cap makers. If there was a way for them to supply more, I'm sure less people would be interested in fakes. Keep in mind that when there is enough supply, they will no longer be as exclusive and people would probably lose interest overall. There has to be a balance for it to work.
Really though? I mean, it's like if your buddy records an album and you pirate it. That's just insulting.
This.
Post by: Rewind on Tue, 26 August 2014, 10:30:59
I think this issue can be compared to movie/software piracy. The only reason I pirate movies is because paying for a movie requires much more effort, I'll either have to go to the movie theater or rent it. Netflix has become a kind of solution, but I still pirate everything I want to see that is not on Netflix.
I never pirate games anymore as everything I desire is available on Steam. I think a lot of people are with me on this. Actually buying the games on steam is easier and a better experience overall - plus you're actually supporting the people who are responsible for your entertainment.
There is more demand than supply. While it is ****ty, I understand why someone would start and supply "fakes".
Personally I'm not interested in fake clacks at all. Mostly because it's awful for the original cap makers. If there was a way for them to supply more, I'm sure less people would be interested in fakes. Keep in mind that when there is enough supply, they will no longer be as exclusive and people would probably lose interest overall. There has to be a balance for it to work.
Really though? I mean, it's like if your buddy records an album and you pirate it. That's just insulting.
Personally I'm not interested in fake clacks at all. Mostly because it's awful for the original cap makers.
While I understand where you coming from, I think there has to be an "easy" way to support the creator, otherwise people will just be lazy. It's not so much about the money, more about the convenience.
Look at iTunes, Netflix, Steam. They are successful, people ARE willing to spend money, but it has to be convenient.
If my buddy has recorded an album and only released it on CD and vinyl, I would buy the vinyl and pirate the digital files.
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Great timing!... new Rustie album just came in!! yeaahh
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Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 26 August 2014, 10:55:55
*opinion expressed is personal does not reflect in anyway the stance or polices of GH.
Post by: Binge on Tue, 26 August 2014, 11:08:41
I still think it would be baller for someone to make fakes but add an eye patch. Making them in other profiles besides OEM would also be a good move.
*opinion expressed is personal does not reflect in anyway the stance or polices of GH.
Dude that would be a parody and entirely cool IMO.
Post by: JinDesu on Tue, 26 August 2014, 11:10:14
I still think it would be baller for someone to make fakes but add an eye patch. Making them in other profiles besides OEM would also be a good move.
*opinion expressed is personal does not reflect in anyway the stance or polices of GH.
Dude that would be a parody and entirely cool IMO.
(http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140216044240/poptropica/images/d/d4/Tomska_I_love_it.jpg)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 26 August 2014, 11:12:40
Aye!!!I still think it would be baller for someone to make fakes but add an eye patch. Making them in other profiles besides OEM would also be a good move.
*opinion expressed is personal does not reflect in anyway the stance or polices of GH.
Dude that would be a parody and entirely cool IMO.Show Image(http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140216044240/poptropica/images/d/d4/Tomska_I_love_it.jpg)
Post by: JinDesu on Tue, 26 August 2014, 11:17:08
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 26 August 2014, 11:22:24
I still think it would be baller for someone to make fakes but add an eye patch. Making them in other profiles besides OEM would also be a good move.
*opinion expressed is personal does not reflect in anyway the stance or polices of GH.
Dude that would be a parody and entirely cool IMO.
DO IT BINGE, then auction if off and put the money towards a good cause.
Post by: Binge on Tue, 26 August 2014, 11:23:22
I still think it would be baller for someone to make fakes but add an eye patch. Making them in other profiles besides OEM would also be a good move.
*opinion expressed is personal does not reflect in anyway the stance or polices of GH.
Dude that would be a parody and entirely cool IMO.
DO IT BINGE, then auction if off and put the money towards a good cause.
Or I could give it away and ask the owner to put the money towards a cause they believe in.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 26 August 2014, 11:28:04
I still think it would be baller for someone to make fakes but add an eye patch. Making them in other profiles besides OEM would also be a good move.
*opinion expressed is personal does not reflect in anyway the stance or polices of GH.
Dude that would be a parody and entirely cool IMO.
DO IT BINGE, then auction if off and put the money towards a good cause.
Or I could give it away and ask the owner to put the money towards a cause they believe in.
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Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 26 August 2014, 11:45:03
I hereby remove myself from this matter.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 26 August 2014, 12:28:55
I still think it would be baller for someone to make fakes but add an eye patch. Making them in other profiles besides OEM would also be a good move.
*opinion expressed is personal does not reflect in anyway the stance or polices of GH.
Dude that would be a parody and entirely cool IMO.
DO IT BINGE, then auction if off and put the money towards a good cause.
Or I could give it away and ask the owner to put the money towards a cause they believe in.
I will shoulder this burden.
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 26 August 2014, 12:38:33
(http://i.imgur.com/rXC71AL.jpg)
16.16.16!
Post by: demik on Tue, 26 August 2014, 12:53:59
Hired himself some mexican gnomes probably.
See CC, you need mexicans to keep everybody happy!
Post by: Lu_e on Tue, 26 August 2014, 13:05:32
Why are we talking about copyright when everyone actually frustrated wants people to just act decently? "Go read a book about copyright and then come complain about CC fakes." *whoosh* and the entire point of this discussion goes over someone's head. To make it more clear:
This is not a community of copyright enthusiasts. Right now it's largely a community of folks frustrated that one of their members is being exploited. And while I believe it's safe to say that Disney has little chance of being inflicted with measurable harm by a Vader cap, identical products have a very real chance of harming CC. (And Bro Caps if the guy goes after those as well.)
So when anyone says "copyright infringement," what they really mean is "decency infringement." Frankly I care about that last one a whole lot more.
Exactly. Obviously im wasting my time trying to explain morals and having a conscious to copyright law enthusiasts. But if we're doing that; I believe CF has never called the keycap 'vader'. For the record I dont really care about what Bro and CF did (bbv1 & 'vader'), as the product/character never existed before in keycap form.
P3TCOCK, I realize the term 'unrelated product' means near nothing in terms of copyright. But it does mean something in relation to outright copying an existing product, using the existing product
Edit; its even more than an 'aid'... If done well it could be an EXACT copy. Im sure theres some fancy term im missing for creating a copy mold using a genuine product.
Theres also the possibility this guy is so accustomed to 'asian counterfeiting' , he believes he is doing nothing wrong as hes said "i just like keycap, i could not buy, so i create for myself". This would probably be fine if it was only for himself, but he is SELLING them. Idiot possibly doesn't have the conscious to know how wrong this is. Especially replacing the signature underneath the keycap.
Or hes just playing dumb.
Post by: MJ45 on Tue, 26 August 2014, 13:12:12
I don't see any problem with fakes as long as that's what they are sold and marked as. To me they are art like paintings, sculpture, etc. that get reproduced. I think the "Originals" will still be as desirable and valuable as ever (maybe more so) to serious keyboard collectors and connoisseurs. That is how I feel about it and I would rather use a fake "CC" as a esc on my daily driver than wear out a genuine (I press esc a lot). CC's are art and Great work's of art are often imitated duplicated but known to be fake IMHO.I still think it would be baller for someone to make fakes but add an eye patch. Making them in other profiles besides OEM would also be a good move.
*opinion expressed is personal does not reflect in anyway the stance or polices of GH.
Dude that would be a parody and entirely cool IMO.
DO IT BINGE, then auction if off and put the money towards a good cause.
Or I could give it away and ask the owner to put the money towards a cause they believe in.
(Attachment Link)
Post by: domoaligato on Tue, 26 August 2014, 13:29:43
Post by: Lu_e on Tue, 26 August 2014, 13:33:17
I don't see any problem with fakes as long as that's what they are sold and marked as. To me they are art like paintings, sculpture, etc. that get reproduced. I think the "Originals" will still be as desirable and valuable as ever (maybe more so) to serious keyboard collectors and connoisseurs. That is how I feel about it and I would rather use a fake "CC" as a esc on my daily driver than wear out a genuine (I press esc a lot). CC's are art and Great work's of art are often imitated duplicated but known to be fake IMHO.I still think it would be baller for someone to make fakes but add an eye patch. Making them in other profiles besides OEM would also be a good move.
*opinion expressed is personal does not reflect in anyway the stance or polices of GH.
Dude that would be a parody and entirely cool IMO.
DO IT BINGE, then auction if off and put the money towards a good cause.
Or I could give it away and ask the owner to put the money towards a cause they believe in.
(Attachment Link)
This could also be how the counterfeiter feels. I just see feel they are making a sizable profit off of an identical existing product. 'Vader' is in such small numbers im not sure the same could be said.
I guess there is something to be said about The fact that they have replaced the signature instead of copying that as well... As you said they are clearly marked as a copy. Which is a good thing?
Post by: demik on Tue, 26 August 2014, 13:35:12
I think it now has to do more with this guy openly mocking CC and brocaps.
Post by: snoopy on Tue, 26 August 2014, 13:37:14
Post by: Lu_e on Tue, 26 August 2014, 13:45:34
Profit is profit.
Yeah I guess. There is also the fact of giveaways, which I know for a fact CF has given away 'Vader', so there is no tangible profit there.
I, like others im sure, am inclined not to give a **** if we're talking about profit that IS NOT in hundreds of dollars (edit; EACH BATCH[which look to be quite large in terms of this newest case]).
'Vader' numbers being so small, and them being given away, why would the corporate TM holder even care. But again this is my own interpretation/set of morals.
Post by: SSIPAK on Tue, 26 August 2014, 13:54:27
It's really unfortunately that best thing we can do is to hope that he will stop this non sense
but probably not going to happen... :mad:
Post by: demik on Tue, 26 August 2014, 13:55:55
Profit is profit.
Yeah I guess. There is also the fact of giveaways, which I know for a fact CF has given away 'Vader', so there is no tangible profit there.
I, like others im sure, am inclined not to give a **** if we're talking about profit that IS NOT in hundreds of dollars (edit; EACH BATCH[which look to be quite large in terms of this newest case]).
'Vader' numbers being so small, and them being given away, why would the corporate TM holder even care. But again this is my own interpretation/set of morals.
Gonna need proof on the first claim
Post by: Lu_e on Tue, 26 August 2014, 14:46:02
I guess I shouldn't be so bold in my statement, but I do remember probably the most recent announcement of "someone has joined the darkside" on the CF sub forum. I thought this was a giveaway but I could be mistaken. I dont remember the persons username but I do believe they also posted in the post your clacks thread.
With how often Click Clack Has done giveaways; can you prove to me a single 'vader' HASN'T been given away? :p
I'm not here to berate anyone (in regards to previous posts as well, ok maybe the counterfeiters), I just want to further this discussion in a somewhat civilized manner. If that is even possible :))
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 26 August 2014, 14:48:19
A little birdy told me our new favorite keymaker is on the job.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rXC71AL.jpg)
16.16.16!
:eek:
Post by: Fire Brand on Tue, 26 August 2014, 14:54:57
A little birdy told me our new favorite keymaker is on the job.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rXC71AL.jpg)
16.16.16!
Piratecaps? Arrr :confused:
Post by: bazh on Tue, 26 August 2014, 14:56:20
Would love to kick some butt, but seems like I don't live in the correct country for that.
need a lift?
Post by: P3TC0CK on Tue, 26 August 2014, 15:09:24
Guys, FYI: I invented saying "lol" on the internet. I have the copyright, but I'm a generous person, so I let it slide when people use my creation. I just wish I could get a little attribution.
You can't copyright terms and words, that's what trademarks are for. Trademarks and copyright all have built in exceptions for them that, in the case of something like "yo-yo" (in the case Duncan the original inventor of the term) or in your fictitious example. It's become too generic a term to protect.
Same thing goes with Disney and the Darth Vader copyright: they don't want to crack down on an enthusiastic fan for promoting their character. CC is not cutting into Disney's profit margin, so they don't care.
It's probably more likely that they don't know considering how niche the product is. Try contacting Disney about it and see if they'll care then.
Also, CC may have an argument that what he's doing is a "parody", which is okay under copyright law, especially the red Vaders.
That's not a parody. Recoloring something isn't parody, or recreating it in a different medium doesn't automatically make it a parody.
Quote
A parody is a work that ridicules another, usually well-known work, by imitating it in a comic way. Judges understand that, by its nature, parody demands some taking from the original work being parodied. Unlike other forms of fair use, a fairly extensive use of the original work is permitted in a parody in order to “conjure up” the original.
Definition from Stanford university (http://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/fair-use/what-is-fair-use/).
However, even though I'm sure Disney doesn't give a rat's @ss about CC and his Vader caps, they are worried about losing their copyright, and if they let too many people use it for free, the copyright can actually become part of the public domain, which would hurt their profit margin quite a bit. So they have to walk a fine line between and losing their copyright protection, but still allowing avid Star Wars (c) fans to continue to be enthusiastic about the Star Wars (c) franchise, which means that they have to allow a certain amount of fan-created items, and even fan fiction. This in the end helps Disney make even more money by selling more licensed Star Wars (c) merchandise and selling more tickets to the movies. Lego recently had a similar internal debate, and has recently decided to embrace their fans and their fan-created items, rather than suing them, as they did in the past.
There's a difference between fan works and fan works for sale. A lot of companies are fine with fan works and have opened it. It's a completely different story when money enters the equation like CC selling his vader/darkside/whatever you want to call them caps.
It doesn't matter what Lego believes or claims, their patents and copyrights have all fallen into the public domain. Lego always blusters about trying to pretend as if it still holds anything other than a trademark on the name Lego and a few patents on newer bricks they've invented. They've lost a couple pretty high profile cases in relation to that, and it's not like they have any other choice.
As for CC making Vaders, like I said before, he would probably argue that he made them for his friends as a "parody", which is perfectly legal.
No he's not, see above link.
As for CC trying to protect his own copyright, that is also perfectly understandable and totally correct. CC's caps are distinctive and well-known, which is exactly the type of thing copyright law was invented to protect.
Yeah, but if we're to take the behavior of CC in this situation then it it's a bit odd to see CC suddenly a huge vanguard of copyright and keeping his ideas safe. The copy cats are essentially just following his example, and he's not in any place to criticize them until he either admits he made a mistake in producing those caps.
And finally, please don't feel sorry for Disney or George Lucas. Please remember that Walt Disney was a virulent anti-semite, a racist, and a Nazi sympathizer before WWII (this is all true, look it up). And as for George Lucas, he stole the idea for his original 1977 Star Wars IV: A New Hope from an Akira Kurosawa samurai movie called: The Hidden Fortress. Lucas did not steal the entire Kurosawa movie, but he did lift a lot of material including the two comedic servants which became the droids. Other parts of his movie were lifted from other movies, he was like the original Quentin Tarantino.
This is all completely irrelevant, I don't feel sorry for anyone in this situation. I really don't care. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy in being up in arms about one thief, but being ok with another. The Star Wars films are hardly original in their plot structures and themes, it's a pretty standard western type film so of course themes will match up but it doesn't make it anymore right what the copy clacks or CC have done.
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But if we're doing that; I believe CF has never called the keycap 'vader'. For the record I dont really care about what Bro and CF did (bbv1 & 'vader'), as the product/character never existed before in keycap form.
It doesn't matter what they're called, they're clearly stealing someone else's product/idea/concept. You don't have an understanding of what copyright is if you believe not referring to them as Vaders matters. If you're OK with what CF and Brobot did, then you should be fine with what the copycats are doing here.
P3TCOCK, I realize the term 'unrelated product' means near nothing in terms of copyright. But it does mean something in relation to outright copying an existing product, using the existing productas an aidin creation, and selling to the same demographic or market.
That's irrelevant to the discussion. I'm talking about how it's hypocritical to support IP theft (regardless of how big it is) of one thing and then turn around and criticize someone who is essentially doing the same thing. The people making those fake clacks don't market them or label them as real clacks, so it would be perfectly fine if the name is your only concern.
Theres also the possibility this guy is so accustomed to 'asian counterfeiting' , he believes he is doing nothing wrong as hes said "i just like keycap, i could not buy, so i create for myself". This would probably be fine if it was only for himself, but he is SELLING them. Idiot possibly doesn't have the conscious to know how wrong this is. Especially replacing the signature underneath the keycap.
Or hes just playing dumb.
There's nothing right about what he's doing and I've said it isn't, but it's not any different than what CC is doing right now, except it has no 'measurable' damage for everyone who chooses to turn a blind eye to it.
Exactly. Obviously im wasting my time trying to explain morals and having a conscious to copyright law enthusiasts.
There's no reason to use ad hominems, you simply don't understand how copyright works. Others do, and I have gone and pointed it out. I personally don't really care if they're copied or punished or that BB and CC have done so in the past, but I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy of supporting one act of copyright infringement regardless of its effect on the parties involved.
Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 26 August 2014, 15:49:52
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 26 August 2014, 16:05:28
Post by: Lu_e on Tue, 26 August 2014, 16:29:47
"There's nothing right about what he's doing and I've said it isn't, but it's not any different than what CC is doing right now, except it has no 'measurable' damage for everyone who chooses to turn a blind eye to it."
It's a bit different to create a duplicate mold, which is used to create an identical product owned by a small artist vs. constructing a model from portions of existing unrelated molded product owned by a corporation. Maybe not in the "black and white" sense of copyright, but in my personal opinion it is VERY different.
We're even talking about different keycaps ('vader' and skull). One is an original hand sculpted model. that alone makes these cases very different. If it was a 'vader' cap that was copied and sold I would still think it was a derp thing to do, but I would care a lot less.
I do see where you're coming from. You see the existing molded toy, the character, copied into another partially duplicate mold. Adapted into another product yes, but still a partially duplicated mold. Since both products are designed by someone and created into a mold.
But to reiterate; in regards to copying cc's skull, that is an original work, by a small artist that started out as a keycap. so it bothers me and others a whole lot more than copying a character owned by a corporation that didnt start out as a cap.
These are just personal beliefs and everyone is entitled to their own, you don't see things the same way I do and that is fine, at least you do say it isn't right.
One more thing, as has been said with other artistically untalented counterfeiters; they obviously have the means to produce a mediocre product, they should get their own ideas onto keycaps.
Post by: MJ45 on Tue, 26 August 2014, 16:48:52
Guys, FYI: I invented saying "lol" on the internet. I have the copyright, but I'm a generous person, so I let it slide when people use my creation. I just wish I could get a little attribution.
You can't copyright terms and words, that's what trademarks are for. Trademarks and copyright all have built in exceptions for them that, in the case of something like "yo-yo" (in the case Duncan the original inventor of the term) or in your fictitious example. It's become too generic a term to protect.Same thing goes with Disney and the Darth Vader copyright: they don't want to crack down on an enthusiastic fan for promoting their character. CC is not cutting into Disney's profit margin, so they don't care.
It's probably more likely that they don't know considering how niche the product is. Try contacting Disney about it and see if they'll care then.Also, CC may have an argument that what he's doing is a "parody", which is okay under copyright law, especially the red Vaders.
That's not a parody. Recoloring something isn't parody, or recreating it in a different medium doesn't automatically make it a parody.QuoteA parody is a work that ridicules another, usually well-known work, by imitating it in a comic way. Judges understand that, by its nature, parody demands some taking from the original work being parodied. Unlike other forms of fair use, a fairly extensive use of the original work is permitted in a parody in order to “conjure up” the original.[/qoute]
Definition from Stanford university (http://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/fair-use/what-is-fair-use/).However, even though I'm sure Disney doesn't give a rat's @ss about CC and his Vader caps, they are worried about losing their copyright, and if they let too many people use it for free, the copyright can actually become part of the public domain, which would hurt their profit margin quite a bit. So they have to walk a fine line between and losing their copyright protection, but still allowing avid Star Wars (c) fans to continue to be enthusiastic about the Star Wars (c) franchise, which means that they have to allow a certain amount of fan-created items, and even fan fiction. This in the end helps Disney make even more money by selling more licensed Star Wars (c) merchandise and selling more tickets to the movies. Lego recently had a similar internal debate, and has recently decided to embrace their fans and their fan-created items, rather than suing them, as they did in the past.
There's a difference between fan works and fan works for sale. A lot of companies are fine with fan works and have opened it. It's a completely different story when money enters the equation like CC selling his vader/darkside/whatever you want to call them caps.
It doesn't matter what Lego believes or claims, their patents and copyrights have all fallen into the public domain. Lego always blusters about trying to pretend as if it still holds anything other than a trademark on the name Lego and a few patents on newer bricks they've invented. They've lost a couple pretty high profile cases in relation to that, and it's not like they have any other choice.
As for CC making Vaders, like I said before, he would probably argue that he made them for his friends as a "parody", which is perfectly legal.
No he's not, see above link.
As for CC trying to protect his own copyright, that is also perfectly understandable and totally correct. CC's caps are distinctive and well-known, which is exactly the type of thing copyright law was invented to protect.
Yeah, but if we're to take the behavior of CC in this situation then it it's a bit odd to see CC suddenly a huge vanguard of copyright and keeping his ideas safe. The copy cats are essentially just following his example, and he's not in any place to criticize them until he either admits he made a mistake in producing those caps.And finally, please don't feel sorry for Disney or George Lucas. Please remember that Walt Disney was a virulent anti-semite, a racist, and a Nazi sympathizer before WWII (this is all true, look it up). And as for George Lucas, he stole the idea for his original 1977 Star Wars IV: A New Hope from an Akira Kurosawa samurai movie called: The Hidden Fortress. Lucas did not steal the entire Kurosawa movie, but he did lift a lot of material including the two comedic servants which became the droids. Other parts of his movie were lifted from other movies, he was like the original Quentin Tarantino.
This is all completely irrelevant, I don't feel sorry for anyone in this situation. I really don't care. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy in being up in arms about one thief, but being ok with another. The Star Wars films are hardly original in their plot structures and themes, it's a pretty standard western type film so of course themes will match up but it doesn't make it anymore right what the copy clacks or CC have done.
-----But if we're doing that; I believe CF has never called the keycap 'vader'. For the record I dont really care about what Bro and CF did (bbv1 & 'vader'), as the product/character never existed before in keycap form.
It doesn't matter what they're called, they're clearly stealing someone else's product/idea/concept. You don't have an understanding of what copyright is if you believe not referring to them as Vaders matters. If you're OK with what CF and Brobot did, then you should be fine with what the copycats are doing here.P3TCOCK, I realize the term 'unrelated product' means near nothing in terms of copyright. But it does mean something in relation to outright copying an existing product, using the existing productas an aidin creation, and selling to the same demographic or market.
That's irrelevant to the discussion. I'm talking about how it's hypocritical to support IP theft (regardless of how big it is) of one thing and then turn around and criticize someone who is essentially doing the same thing. The people making those fake clacks don't market them or label them as real clacks, so it would be perfectly fine if the name is your only concern.Theres also the possibility this guy is so accustomed to 'asian counterfeiting' , he believes he is doing nothing wrong as hes said "i just like keycap, i could not buy, so i create for myself". This would probably be fine if it was only for himself, but he is SELLING them. Idiot possibly doesn't have the conscious to know how wrong this is. Especially replacing the signature underneath the keycap.
Or hes just playing dumb.
There's nothing right about what he's doing and I've said it isn't, but it's not any different than what CC is doing right now, except it has no 'measurable' damage for everyone who chooses to turn a blind eye to it.Exactly. Obviously im wasting my time trying to explain morals and having a conscious to copyright law enthusiasts.
There's no reason to use ad hominems, you simply don't understand how copyright works. Others do, and I have gone and pointed it out. I personally don't really care if they're copied or punished or that BB and CC have done so in the past, but I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy of supporting one act of copyright infringement regardless of its effect on the parties involved.
Disney and DarkVader vs CC? Now I'm confused and think I'm going to forget about this thread and fake CC and this P3TCOCK who my be FAKE as well. Some thing is "rotten in Denmark" I think this is some kind of troll conspiracy or scam job.
Post by: demik on Tue, 26 August 2014, 17:14:20
DARTH VADER OR DARK HELMET
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 26 August 2014, 17:23:50
Post by: demik on Tue, 26 August 2014, 17:25:15
we are too legit to quit.
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 26 August 2014, 17:29:57
all i know is, i can't trust CC Skull owners. Only legit owners are Dark Side owners.
we are too legit to quit.
And when kEkc.com starts making Dark Side knock-offs?
Post by: demik on Tue, 26 August 2014, 17:31:30
all i know is, i can't trust CC Skull owners. Only legit owners are Dark Side owners.
we are too legit to quit.
And when kEkc.com starts making Dark Side knock-offs?
snipers on stand by
and i believe there aren't that many dark sides out, and it's probably well known who has one and we can probably pin point who is supplying dude to make fakes
Post by: absyrd on Tue, 26 August 2014, 17:46:01
all i know is, i can't trust CC Skull owners. Only legit owners are Dark Side owners.
we are too legit to quit.
And when kEkc.com starts making Dark Side knock-offs?
snipers on stand by
and i believe there aren't that many dark sides out, and it's probably well known who has one and we can probably pin point who is supplying dude to make fakes
Well, ****, there have been 2 on ebay in the last month already, so your plan might not work. :p
Post by: demik on Tue, 26 August 2014, 17:46:50
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 26 August 2014, 18:24:45
Post by: Halverson on Tue, 26 August 2014, 18:35:14
all i know is, i can't trust CC Skull owners. Only legit owners are Dark Side owners.
we are too legit to quit.
And when kEkc.com starts making Dark Side knock-offs?
snipers on stand by
and i believe there aren't that many dark sides out, and it's probably well known who has one and we can probably pin point who is supplying dude to make fakes
Who even knew I had one!
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 26 August 2014, 19:18:48
DARTH VADER NOT DARK VADER.(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx130/Mechani-Kong/DarkHelmetFOOLDU.jpg)
DARTH VADER OR DARK HELMET
Post by: Lu_e on Tue, 26 August 2014, 19:21:09
O_o "kill me..."
(http://i.imgur.com/vr4J690.png)
Post by: demik on Tue, 26 August 2014, 19:26:20
This thing... ****in lol
O_o "kill me..."Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vr4J690.png)
good from far but far from good
Post by: Paddywagon on Tue, 26 August 2014, 19:47:20
https://www.facebook.com/k3kc.shop (for FB idiots like me, it's the "..." button on the main banner, next to like/follow/share)
While all the CC copycats are unimaginative cheats and thieves, this one is beyond intolerable. . . and is report-able!
Spread that good CC karma, stop these horrible little selfish torment weasels from eating CC's soul. =(
Post by: Michael on Tue, 26 August 2014, 19:48:49
Since the evil thief k3kc disabled his facebook comments, I've been content to report the page as a scam. Join in!
https://www.facebook.com/k3kc.shop (https://www.facebook.com/k3kc.shop) (for FB idiots like me, it's the "..." button on the main banner, next to like/follow/share)
While all the CC copycats are unimaginative cheats and thieves, this one is beyond intolerable. . . and is report-able!
Spread that good CC karma, stop these horrible little selfish torment weasels from eating CC's soul. =(
Amen.
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 26 August 2014, 19:59:24
Post by: Paddywagon on Tue, 26 August 2014, 20:04:41
Since the evil thief k3kc disabled his facebook comments, I've been content to report the page as a scam. Join in!
https://www.facebook.com/k3kc.shop (https://www.facebook.com/k3kc.shop) (for FB idiots like me, it's the "..." button on the main banner, next to like/follow/share)
While all the CC copycats are unimaginative cheats and thieves, this one is beyond intolerable. . . and is report-able!
Spread that good CC karma, stop these horrible little selfish torment weasels from eating CC's soul. =(
Amen.
Right, because if CC's creative soul is devoured you'd probably starve.
Post by: demik on Tue, 26 August 2014, 20:08:10
Since the evil thief k3kc disabled his facebook comments, I've been content to report the page as a scam. Join in!
https://www.facebook.com/k3kc.shop (https://www.facebook.com/k3kc.shop) (for FB idiots like me, it's the "..." button on the main banner, next to like/follow/share)
While all the CC copycats are unimaginative cheats and thieves, this one is beyond intolerable. . . and is report-able!
Spread that good CC karma, stop these horrible little selfish torment weasels from eating CC's soul. =(
Amen.
Right, because if CC's creative soul is devoured you'd probably starve.
the ****.
this dude didn't need any advertising, all of you are doing it for him.
why didn't people just report this to CC and leave it as is? have him deal with it behind the scenes and not give this dude the attention he wants.
sometimes you dudes do some ass backwards ****
Post by: Michael on Tue, 26 August 2014, 20:09:55
Since the evil thief k3kc disabled his facebook comments, I've been content to report the page as a scam. Join in!
https://www.facebook.com/k3kc.shop (https://www.facebook.com/k3kc.shop) (for FB idiots like me, it's the "..." button on the main banner, next to like/follow/share)
While all the CC copycats are unimaginative cheats and thieves, this one is beyond intolerable. . . and is report-able!
Spread that good CC karma, stop these horrible little selfish torment weasels from eating CC's soul. =(
Amen.
Right, because if CC's creative soul is devoured you'd probably starve.
You seem to be pointing your anger in the wrong direction.
Post by: Lu_e on Tue, 26 August 2014, 20:18:08
But that would be something for CC to do.
Post by: brocap.ngu.vai on Tue, 26 August 2014, 20:55:28
Post by: Michael on Tue, 26 August 2014, 20:56:36
do not try if you do not understand the rules of FB
Hello Ba Cong Tang Ton Nu
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 26 August 2014, 21:01:25
do not try if you do not understand the rules of FB
Hello Ba Cong Tang Ton Nu
:)) :))
Post by: brocap.ngu.vai on Tue, 26 August 2014, 21:07:16
Hello Con Tinh Trung Khuyet Tatdo not try if you do not understand the rules of FB
Hello Ba Cong Tang Ton Nu
Post by: demik on Tue, 26 August 2014, 21:08:47
Hello Con Tinh Trung Khuyet Tatdo not try if you do not understand the rules of FB
Hello Ba Cong Tang Ton Nu
googled this and this popped up
ICEJJFISH
Post by: Michael on Tue, 26 August 2014, 21:09:58
Hello Con Tinh Trung Khuyet Tatdo not try if you do not understand the rules of FB
Hello Ba Cong Tang Ton Nu
googled this and this popped up
ICEJJFISH
****... you found me out. I am ICEJJFISH :(
Post by: demik on Tue, 26 August 2014, 21:10:45
Post by: Michael on Tue, 26 August 2014, 21:11:37
you were great in this!
Thanks, man. That was one of my best performances.
Post by: Halverson on Tue, 26 August 2014, 21:15:02
you were great in this!
Thanks, man. That was one of my best performances.
Can you autograph a V2 for me?? I LOVE YOU
Post by: brocap.ngu.vai on Tue, 26 August 2014, 21:23:20
you were great in this!
Thanks, man. That was one of my best performances.
Can you autograph a V2 for me?? I LOVE YOU
If you want, i'll give for you.
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 26 August 2014, 21:34:19
you were great in this!
Thanks, man. That was one of my best performances.
Can you autograph a V2 for me?? I LOVE YOU
If you want, i'll give for you.
Sweet screen mane bruh.
Post by: Halverson on Tue, 26 August 2014, 21:40:09
you were great in this!
Thanks, man. That was one of my best performances.
Can you autograph a V2 for me?? I LOVE YOU
If you want, i'll give for you.
Sweet screen mane bruh.
Aweeee yeeee
Post by: Xowie on Tue, 26 August 2014, 21:41:25
Post by: bazh on Wed, 27 August 2014, 00:22:33
Post by: phoenix1234 on Wed, 27 August 2014, 01:25:18
I read all of posts related to the incidence of CC clone in the last few days so I think I can understand a bit of what happening.
Original work from authors
Absolutely, I understand the work from CC/Brobot/Bing/Nubbinator and many other artist are at least the original piece of works. Nobody has the right to clone and copy them. Cloning the original work from the author is just like plagiarism in literature. So we can conclude the work that the little evil genius k3kc is a wrong-doing action.
Action from GeekHackers
I can see there are 4 groups.
The first group is quite professional. As I read, some of you are considering to use legal action and help from the Embassy of USA in Vietnam.
The second group of GeekHackers are quite over-reacted. I know you are young and you treat the clone as a disease, some feel disgusting and raise the issue into the generalization level, something related to China and Vietnam. Some point the finger to the owner of the clone and make them feel guilty as charge. Some are planning to use evil action against them like DDOS attack, report as scam, etc.
The third group of GHers are still calm enough to analyse about the reason why the clones appear and how to prevent them in the future.
The fourth group kept calm and eating pop-corn (yeah, I know you are still eating pop-corn while reading this :D).
At first, I want to join the 4th group. However, I think perhaps I need to write something with a hope that I can help something out here.
Regarding the legal action that the first group proposed, it is good and useful. My company was facing 2 legal cases related to counterfeits in Vietnam. One case related to a trademark from a big cooperation in Netherlands (V*** Group) was used illegal in Vietnam. The other is an attempt to register a similar brand name belongs to a company in Germany. The lawyers from those 2 foreign companies are very powerful but they use a peaceful method to resolve the issue. They write letters to the companies who are violating the brand and explain to them about the ownership of the brand. Everything is settled down nicely. However, this way is only effective on business entity where you can have their VAT number, company registration number. This is hardly applied into individual in Vietnam. It is extremely hard to trace a person in Vietnam and it is even harder if you want the police involved. For example, the email of k3kc is real (k3******@gmail.com) but certainly the name "Ba Cong Tang Ton Nu" that k3kc used to register the domain is fake (or his friend at the best). That doesn't count the fact that he is using a completely different signature on the bottom of the keycap. Therefore, I doubt about this method.
The evil action from the 2nd group proposed is quite extreme and I don't think it may work because it won't solve the root of the issue. Rather, it may lead to more chaotic problem.
I support the solution from 3rd group proposed. Not only we need to find the way to avoid the price inflation of original novelty keycap but we also need to tell what k3kc going is WRONG. Instead, he must use different design. Plus, we also need to educate the community how to treat and value the original work instead of purchasing the copy one.
Post by: P3TC0CK on Wed, 27 August 2014, 01:43:01
P3TCOCK your post is kinda lost in that quote box, and im on mobile, so im gonna copy pasta
Sorry about that, miswrote a tag. Fixed now.
It's a bit different to create a duplicate mold, which is used to create an identical product owned by a small artist vs. constructing a model from portions of existing unrelated molded product owned by a corporation. Maybe not in the "black and white" sense of copyright, but in my personal opinion it is VERY different.
Well the effect on the owner may be different. CC may eventually become a big keycap designer and start producing many more caps for a larger amount of people. It wouldn't make it anymore right in everyone's eyes if people came and stole his designs right? It's the same thing with Disney, and more specifically George Lucas when he first was creating Star Wars.
We also don't have any real estimate of the financial impact of those selling Star Wars products without Disney's permission, so while CC's impact may be microscopic it's part of the greater community of people who infringe on the IP.
We're supposed to all play by the same rules when using copyright, trademark, etc regardless of your wealth or the financial impact of copyright infringement.
We're even talking about different keycaps ('vader' and skull). One is an original hand sculpted model. that alone makes these cases very different. If it was a 'vader' cap that was copied and sold I would still think it was a derp thing to do, but I would care a lot less.
I do see where you're coming from. You see the existing molded toy, the character, copied into another partially duplicate mold. Adapted into another product yes, but still a partially duplicated mold. Since both products are designed by someone and created into a mold.
One is just more time intensive than the other, other than that it's the same thing. I don't think anyone could mistake the cap for anything, it looks exactly like the standard depiction of Darth Vader down to the details on the mouthpiece.
But to reiterate; in regards to copying cc's skull, that is an original work, by a small artist that started out as a keycap. so it bothers me and others a whole lot more than copying a character owned by a corporation that didnt start out as a cap.
These are just personal beliefs and everyone is entitled to their own, you don't see things the same way I do and that is fine, at least you do say it isn't right.
One more thing, as has been said with other artistically untalented counterfeiters; they obviously have the means to produce a mediocre product, they should get their own ideas onto keycaps.
Yeah, it's obvious there is a different effect but there should be at least some demand from the community for CC to clean up his methods, just like brobot who obviously became aware that using other's designs/ideas wasn't the best idea. If the community is going to be against copy clacks that is.
Disney and DarkVader vs CC? Now I'm confused and think I'm going to forget about this thread and fake CC and this P3TCOCK who my be FAKE as well. Some thing is "rotten in Denmark" I think this is some kind of troll conspiracy or scam job.
Keycap McCarythism; time to investigate anyone who thinks differently than you about novelty keycaps.
Sorry I have a dissenting opinion on the matter. Like I said, I don't really care either way since I will never buy a novelty keycap at the prices they sit at now. I'm just pointing out the absurdity of some of the positions people are taking.
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 27 August 2014, 01:50:30
:blank::llama::blank:
here's a llama stuck between two beach balls
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 27 August 2014, 02:11:35
Since the evil thief k3kc disabled his facebook comments, I've been content to report the page as a scam. Join in!
https://www.facebook.com/k3kc.shop (for FB idiots like me, it's the "..." button on the main banner, next to like/follow/share)
While all the CC copycats are unimaginative cheats and thieves, this one is beyond intolerable. . . and is report-able!
Spread that good CC karma, stop these horrible little selfish torment weasels from eating CC's soul. =(
Wow they even have Oktoberfest... How do they know colors so well? This person obviously has some experience. This is not cool... Reported.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 27 August 2014, 02:28:13
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 27 August 2014, 02:30:44
CC knows and is likely taking appropriate action.
Great to hear! Thanks for the update on cc. :thumb:
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 27 August 2014, 02:32:30
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 27 August 2014, 02:35:35
:Triangle::potato
Post by: feizor on Wed, 27 August 2014, 05:09:48
:Triangle::potato
(http://www.mccainusafoodservice.com/Uploads/Media/Original/OIF00049.png)
Post by: Darkside on Wed, 27 August 2014, 07:34:39
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 27 August 2014, 09:12:25
I'll preface this by saying that I haven't been in the mechanical keyboard scene too long so I'm not personally acquainted with anyone, actually. I feel that in light of this situation, we should learn from this and understand how it got to this point. I see a lot of misdirected energy focusing on retribution rather than resolution, and that is frankly the wrong way of looking at this.
I think you see a lot of people making jokes about retribution as a way of expressing how disgusting this IP theft is. I don’t know anyone who is serious about killing them, DDOSing them, or anything else extreme. There’s a lot of joking about it since the action is quite reprehensible and affects a beloved member of the community.
Problem
As it has been said before, the reason for these existing is because they are filling a void that couldn't or wasn't otherwise being filled by CC himself. Consumers want the best bargain, no matter where the product comes from. When consumers want a product that can only be bought second-hand at exorbitant prices, they will look elsewhere until someone fills that gap. Now that gap has been filled.
If this was all about filling a gap, they should have come out with a competing product that people wanted.
For example, I remember when Tickle Me Elmo was the must have toy for Christmas. It was so desired that shelves could not be kept stocked and people were flipping them for insane profits on Craigslist and eBay. Following your argument, it would have been okay for someone to step in with a counterfeit Tickle Me Elmo and, instead of calling it that and made by Tyco, call it Me Laugh Muppet by Fisker Pride.
That is not gap filling in the economic sense; that is fraud and IP theft done to make a profit while demand is outstripping supply. The manufacturer has every right to produce as many or as few as they like and to price them where they want. If the other company wanted to compete, they should introduce a competing product, not a counterfeit with a different maker’s mark.
This is not to say that I don't admire CC's work- I do. The Mint CC is actually one of my favorite keycaps of all time. But if I see that Mint CC pop up on that site, there's no doubt that I'll be spamming that F5 key with wallet in hand. It's available, cheap, and looks "good enough". I have no allegiance to CC and he has no allegiance to me. Since I'm not a collector, any intangible value (emotional or otherwise) has no purpose for me. I just want my keyboard to look pretty.
While you’re right that you have no allegiance to each other, one would hope that you could see the moral and ethical problems of someone stealing someone else’s copyrighted works and remarketing it as their own at a similar price point.
If you want your keyboard to look pretty, get something that matches from one of the multiple cap artisans out there.
Remember, cap makers are artisans, any kind of theft, counterfeiting, fraud, and so on hurts them considerably since they do not have massive profits and profit margins. It’s just as terrible to knowingly support the counterfeiters as it is to counterfeit.
Possible Solution
I'm also involved in the electronic cigarette community and clones, replicas, and counterfeits can be found around every corner. There have even been times when clones have even appeared before the original product! The way this is solved is by constant innovation. It is incredibly important for makers to keep innovating their products to remain competitive in the market. But truth be told, it's a bit more challenging to improve creative work rather than hardware design of a ecig mod. Lawsuits against Asian vendors pretty much amount to a stern finger-wagging, because while the laws against this may exist, it's another matter entirely to get authorities to actually enforce it. I suppose I'm a bit cynical because I've seen this happen so many times before with copies of vaping products, though I do wish you luck in your case.
You’re confounding copyright with patents. How exactly does one innovate a piece of art or trade dress? You make aesthetic choices that are pleasing to people. If you were to “innovate” a piece of artwork you could very well be stripping away the aesthetics that make people like it in the first place.
For example, how would Apple innovate if someone stole the trade dress of the MacBook and marketed a laptop that looked identical, ran OSX, and was the same except it had worse build quality, had a pear logo instead of an apple, and called the company Pear? Following what you said, they should completely change their iconic trade dress and, instead, do something like make blocky monstrosities.
Apple is always a bad example to use since so many people hate them and they do over-litigate, but if someone made a direct copy of their trade dress, I damn well hope that they would do something about it and that people would be outraged that someone counterfeited their product.
Or, what if someone started counterfeiting Blek le Rat works? He was one of the most influential street artists and remains an icon to this day. If someone were counterfeiting his works, how is he supposed to “innovate”? Change his style altogether? Move to studio art? If someone counterfeited his stuff, there would be outrage in the community since people acknowledge that your style, your technique, your images make up who you are, they identify you and accord you respect. Imitating styles and developing your own I is one thing, but you never copy someone else’s work and call it your own.
I'll readily admit that I'm not very well informed on how most vendors sell their keys, but I'll say right now that these little thread sales won't cut it. You all need to streamline your selling process and make it as easy as possible for the consumer to get your product. Yes, I get it, you're making works of art and I'm sure they're very special and need to be made with love and care, but keep in mind that many of us don't really care for glorifying your product just because you made it, we just like how it looks. We have money and we want shiny stuff. Get some web sites up and running, start adding serials, ask admins to remove high-priced CC sales, do whatever you need to do to preserve your product.
So all artists who are in demand should overproduce, potentially oversaturating their market and decreasing the value of their product just because people want them? Sorry, but that’s not how it works. An artist is free to make as many or as few of their works as they want and sell them however they please. If someone is not happy with how it’s done, there are other artists to support. If you want mass production, grab some of the Hammer caps. If you want a piece of art, try to get that work legitimately instead of supporting counterfeiters.
Really, what most of your argument, the arguments on Reddit, and the arguments supporting this guy come down to is a sense of entitlement. Guess what, you’re not entitled to anything in this world outside of your basic human rights. Life is tough and you don’t always get what you want. How you deal with that disappointment is what defines you.
You are no longer a little mom n' pop shop. Congratulations, a lot of people want to buy your products! You can either learn to adapt to your new-found success or fade away. The onus is on you.
The onus is on him to keep producing a quality product at his standards, to keep finding and producing things the market likes. That’s the only imperative for any artist. They are not beholden to the market to meet demand.
Post by: redskull on Wed, 27 August 2014, 12:35:19
This topic is getting hot on GH so perhaps I need to write something to express my opinion.+1
I read all of posts related to the incidence of CC clone in the last few days so I think I can understand a bit of what happening.
Original work from authors
Absolutely, I understand the work from CC/Brobot/Bing/Nubbinator and many other artist are at least the original piece of works. Nobody has the right to clone and copy them. Cloning the original work from the author is just like plagiarism in literature. So we can conclude the work that the little evil genius k3kc is a wrong-doing action.
Action from GeekHackers
I can see there are 4 groups.
The first group is quite professional. As I read, some of you are considering to use legal action and help from the Embassy of USA in Vietnam.
The second group of GeekHackers are quite over-reacted. I know you are young and you treat the clone as a disease, some feel disgusting and raise the issue into the generalization level, something related to China and Vietnam. Some point the finger to the owner of the clone and make them feel guilty as charge. Some are planning to use evil action against them like DDOS attack, report as scam, etc.
The third group of GHers are still calm enough to analyse about the reason why the clones appear and how to prevent them in the future.
The fourth group kept calm and eating pop-corn (yeah, I know you are still eating pop-corn while reading this :D).
At first, I want to join the 4th group. However, I think perhaps I need to write something with a hope that I can help something out here.
Regarding the legal action that the first group proposed, it is good and useful. My company was facing 2 legal cases related to counterfeits in Vietnam. One case related to a trademark from a big cooperation in Netherlands (V*** Group) was used illegal in Vietnam. The other is an attempt to register a similar brand name belongs to a company in Germany. The lawyers from those 2 foreign companies are very powerful but they use a peaceful method to resolve the issue. They write letters to the companies who are violating the brand and explain to them about the ownership of the brand. Everything is settled down nicely. However, this way is only effective on business entity where you can have their VAT number, company registration number. This is hardly applied into individual in Vietnam. It is extremely hard to trace a person in Vietnam and it is even harder if you want the police involved. For example, the email of k3kc is real (k3******@gmail.com) but certainly the name "Ba Cong Tang Ton Nu" that k3kc used to register the domain is fake (or his friend at the best). That doesn't count the fact that he is using a completely different signature on the bottom of the keycap. Therefore, I doubt about this method.
The evil action from the 2nd group proposed is quite extreme and I don't think it may work because it won't solve the root of the issue. Rather, it may lead to more chaotic problem.
I support the solution from 3rd group proposed. Not only we need to find the way to avoid the price inflation of original novelty keycap but we also need to tell what k3kc going is WRONG. Instead, he must use different design. Plus, we also need to educate the community how to treat and value the original work instead of purchasing the copy one.
the clack valuation thread needs proper cleaning up.
Post by: pbtforever on Wed, 27 August 2014, 12:39:54
We're all just wanking it until CC shows up and comments on the situation anyway. Any real, and I do stress real, information people may discover is great and should be PM'd to CC, although his inbox is probably flooded with a river of **** already. But no one should go vigilante and take action until the main person affected chooses what route he wants to take with this situation. Hell, it's his prerogative to not tell us anything if he doesn't want his business aired.
:blank::llama::blank:
here's a llama stuck between two beach balls
If he does I just want to say I have been looking for a TriColor forever!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 27 August 2014, 12:46:51
We're all just wanking it until CC shows up and comments on the situation anyway. Any real, and I do stress real, information people may discover is great and should be PM'd to CC, although his inbox is probably flooded with a river of **** already. But no one should go vigilante and take action until the main person affected chooses what route he wants to take with this situation. Hell, it's his prerogative to not tell us anything if he doesn't want his business aired.
:blank: :llama: :blank:
here's a llama stuck between two beach balls
If he does I just want to say I have been looking for a TriColor forever!
Unless I misread your post in the other thread you've already said you are more than happy to buy a fake one.......not sure what you expect to get out of clickclack other than a look of disgust.
Post by: demik on Wed, 27 August 2014, 13:04:46
We're all just wanking it until CC shows up and comments on the situation anyway. Any real, and I do stress real, information people may discover is great and should be PM'd to CC, although his inbox is probably flooded with a river of **** already. But no one should go vigilante and take action until the main person affected chooses what route he wants to take with this situation. Hell, it's his prerogative to not tell us anything if he doesn't want his business aired.
:blank::llama::blank:
here's a llama stuck between two beach balls
If he does I just want to say I have been looking for a TriColor forever!
****ing opportunists
Post by: ekw808 on Wed, 27 August 2014, 13:13:39
If he does I just want to say I have been looking for a TriColor forever!
Forever > 7 months
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 27 August 2014, 13:16:30
If he does I just want to say I have been looking for a TriColor forever!
Forever > 7 months
I believe the correct spelling is "foreverrrrrr"
Post by: naasfu on Wed, 27 August 2014, 15:03:53
If he does I just want to say I have been looking for a TriColor forever!
Forever > 7 months
I believe the correct spelling is "foreverrrrrr"
(http://i.imgur.com/2dbz66i.png)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 27 August 2014, 15:17:47
If he does I just want to say I have been looking for a TriColor forever!
Forever > 7 months
I believe the correct spelling is "foreverrrrrr"Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2dbz66i.png)
So many feels.
Post by: lightsout714 on Wed, 27 August 2014, 22:51:38
Since the evil thief k3kc disabled his facebook comments, I've been content to report the page as a scam. Join in!
https://www.facebook.com/k3kc.shop (for FB idiots like me, it's the "..." button on the main banner, next to like/follow/share)
While all the CC copycats are unimaginative cheats and thieves, this one is beyond intolerable. . . and is report-able!
Spread that good CC karma, stop these horrible little selfish torment weasels from eating CC's soul. =(
Wow they even have Oktoberfest... How do they know colors so well? This person obviously has some experience. This is not cool... Reported.
I think that was just comparing his fake to a real one.
Post by: HipsterPunks on Thu, 28 August 2014, 07:23:54
not posting any usernames but you may have had some issues in the classifieds with this person.
geekhack: cherry numpad with interesting keycaps
(http://i.imgur.com/jJH826r.jpg)
k3 website: cherry numpad... is that the same set?! ;)
(http://i.imgur.com/HYOel0U.jpg)
geekhack: white skull with altered eyes
(http://i.imgur.com/EZdKUCB.jpg)
k3 website: hmm a mint skull with altered eyes
(http://i.imgur.com/LATtiX6.jpg)
not trying to start a witch hunt but damn,
1. same cherry numpad
2. altered CC's
3. Vietnam
Post by: Belfong on Thu, 28 August 2014, 08:10:49
Post by: Mooby on Thu, 28 August 2014, 08:12:56
so maybe this guy knows whats up, he is from Vietnam :cool:
not posting any usernames but you may have had some issues in the classifieds with this person.
geekhack: cherry numpad with interesting keycapsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/jJH826r.jpg)
k3 website: cherry numpad... is that the same set?! ;)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HYOel0U.jpg)
geekhack: white skull with altered eyesShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/EZdKUCB.jpg)
k3 website: hmm a mint skull with altered eyesShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/LATtiX6.jpg)
not trying to start a witch hunt but damn,
1. same cherry numpad
2. altered CC's
3. Vietnam
No need to post usernames. Was posted by himself some days ago. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62119.msg1448342#msg1448342 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62119.msg1448342#msg1448342)
Post by: osi on Thu, 28 August 2014, 08:14:43
edit - clarification
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 28 August 2014, 08:14:54
so maybe this guy knows whats up, he is from Vietnam :cool:
not posting any usernames but you may have had some issues in the classifieds with this person.
geekhack: cherry numpad with interesting keycapsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/jJH826r.jpg)
k3 website: cherry numpad... is that the same set?! ;)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HYOel0U.jpg)
geekhack: white skull with altered eyesShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/EZdKUCB.jpg)
k3 website: hmm a mint skull with altered eyesShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/LATtiX6.jpg)
not trying to start a witch hunt but damn,
1. same cherry numpad
2. altered CC's
3. Vietnam
No need to post usernames. Was posted by himself some days ago. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62119.msg1448342#msg1448342 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62119.msg1448342#msg1448342)
That's not the guy hipster is referring to.
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 28 August 2014, 08:26:10
so maybe this guy knows whats up, he is from Vietnam :cool:
not posting any usernames but you may have had some issues in the classifieds with this person.
geekhack: cherry numpad with interesting keycapsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/jJH826r.jpg)
k3 website: cherry numpad... is that the same set?! ;)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HYOel0U.jpg)
geekhack: white skull with altered eyesShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/EZdKUCB.jpg)
k3 website: hmm a mint skull with altered eyesShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/LATtiX6.jpg)
not trying to start a witch hunt but damn,
1. same cherry numpad
2. altered CC's
3. Vietnam
To be fair, I have one of those G80-3700s with the same keycaps. They were sold in a group buy a couple years ago, by a guy from Vietnam.
Post by: Mooby on Thu, 28 August 2014, 08:28:42
Post by: pmh1410 on Thu, 28 August 2014, 08:42:21
so maybe this guy knows whats up, he is from Vietnam :cool:
not posting any usernames but you may have had some issues in the classifieds with this person.
geekhack: cherry numpad with interesting keycapsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/jJH826r.jpg)
k3 website: cherry numpad... is that the same set?! ;)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HYOel0U.jpg)
geekhack: white skull with altered eyesShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/EZdKUCB.jpg)
k3 website: hmm a mint skull with altered eyesShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/LATtiX6.jpg)
not trying to start a witch hunt but damn,
1. same cherry numpad
2. altered CC's
3. Vietnam
To be fair, I have one of those G80-3700s with the same keycaps. They were sold in a group buy a couple years ago, by a guy from Vietnam.
Namnnt but he stop with keyboard a longtime. who sold G80-3700 mode 4 for Geekhackers at 20$/each with quantity around 20 pcs.
Post by: HipsterPunks on Thu, 28 August 2014, 09:00:43
hi,
i made small poll for new keycap. Please give me some comment.
thanks.
http://goo.gl/qX7Fcl (http://goo.gl/qX7Fcl)
did he make a boo boo?
***a map with a Vietnam address***
Mod Edit: Please refrain from posting personal information.
Post by: Belfong on Thu, 28 August 2014, 09:13:12
Post by: k3keycap4 on Thu, 28 August 2014, 09:14:51
The user i referred to in the top post also claims to be from the same area where a k3 post was tracked fromhi,
i made small poll for new keycap. Please give me some comment.
thanks.
http://goo.gl/qX7Fcl (http://goo.gl/qX7Fcl)
did he make a boo boo?
***a map with a Vietnam address***
Mod Edit: Please refrain from posting personal information.
why do you want to find me, you can fly to with me?
Actually I come from Laos, now I'm doing "Khoan Cat Be Tong" in Hanoi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDgGzMN3XBc&index=1&list=UUtUxxIA_3lReiior0wMMpLw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDgGzMN3XBc&index=1&list=UUtUxxIA_3lReiior0wMMpLw)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 28 August 2014, 09:28:32
The user i referred to in the top post also claims to be from the same area where a k3 post was tracked fromhi,
i made small poll for new keycap. Please give me some comment.
thanks.
http://goo.gl/qX7Fcl (http://goo.gl/qX7Fcl)
did he make a boo boo?
***a map with a Vietnam address***
Mod Edit: Please refrain from posting personal information.
why do you want to find me, you can fly to with me?
Actually I come from Laos, now I'm doing "Khoan Cat Be Tong" in Hanoi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDgGzMN3XBc&index=1&list=UUtUxxIA_3lReiior0wMMpLw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDgGzMN3XBc&index=1&list=UUtUxxIA_3lReiior0wMMpLw)
Stop making new accounts. Just GO AWAY. You are not welcome here.
Post by: Belfong on Thu, 28 August 2014, 09:30:17
Post by: Mooby on Thu, 28 August 2014, 09:38:09
Post by: MJ45 on Thu, 28 August 2014, 09:56:48
If all of us in GH do not buy from him, he will naturally go away and haunt Reddit instead!
He isn't advertising he's trolling, and he'll do that as long as he gets his attention here.Ignore & forget him and his fake junk " Parasites need victims for Survival ".
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 28 August 2014, 10:25:25
so maybe this guy knows whats up, he is from Vietnam :cool:
not posting any usernames but you may have had some issues in the classifieds with this person.
geekhack: cherry numpad with interesting keycapsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/jJH826r.jpg)
k3 website: cherry numpad... is that the same set?! ;)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HYOel0U.jpg)
geekhack: white skull with altered eyesShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/EZdKUCB.jpg)
k3 website: hmm a mint skull with altered eyesShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/LATtiX6.jpg)
not trying to start a witch hunt but damn,
1. same cherry numpad
2. altered CC's
3. Vietnam
fun fact
k3c is working alone, and the white skull with red eyes is legit.
You already have one guy from Vietnam who knows what's up. What do you need a second one for?
PMH didn't realize they were fake, and wasn't really sure until we told him. I'm giving him benefit of the doubt for now.
If all of us in GH do not buy from him, he will naturally go away and haunt Reddit instead!
They're the real problem right now, because they're gonna be the ones buying these.
Post by: Michael on Thu, 28 August 2014, 10:34:20
PMH didn't realize they were fake, and wasn't really sure until we told him. I'm giving him benefit of the doubt for now.
Apparently you missed the several posts where he mentioned his friend made them for him, especially the one he deleted on OTD. So, that's some wrong info there, dude.
Post by: digi on Thu, 28 August 2014, 10:35:59
It's a gift from one of my friend, i will hold it for my keyboard.
If he made more CC or BB, i will buy more color for my keyboard. I don't care official or not, i care only his quality of keycap and detail of logo.
So hard to get more CC a longtime so i need something for replace. But All CCs i was sell or traded on GH is OFFICIAL, Naasfu and T2russo was receivered, you can request us to verify.
pmh1410
PMH didn't realize they were fake, and wasn't really sure until we told him. I'm giving him benefit of the doubt for now.
I'm not sure about that, not sure if you read his post above but PMH pretty much said that he doesn't care if they're fake or not, he's still going to buy them.
*edit sniped by bro! =)
Post by: absyrd on Thu, 28 August 2014, 10:45:45
so maybe this guy knows whats up, he is from Vietnam :cool:
not posting any usernames but you may have had some issues in the classifieds with this person.
geekhack: cherry numpad with interesting keycapsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/jJH826r.jpg)
k3 website: cherry numpad... is that the same set?! ;)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HYOel0U.jpg)
geekhack: white skull with altered eyesShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/EZdKUCB.jpg)
k3 website: hmm a mint skull with altered eyesShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/LATtiX6.jpg)
not trying to start a witch hunt but damn,
1. same cherry numpad
2. altered CC's
3. Vietnam
fun fact
k3c is working alone, and the white skull with red eyes is legit.You already have one guy from Vietnam who knows what's up. What do you need a second one for?
PMH didn't realize they were fake, and wasn't really sure until we told him. I'm giving him benefit of the doubt for now.If all of us in GH do not buy from him, he will naturally go away and haunt Reddit instead!
They're the real problem right now, because they're gonna be the ones buying these.
The white skull with red eyes linked in that image is NOT the real one. He has said before he painted it. Real one was last seen w/ Kisa.
Plus, what digi and bro said, pmh is ALL about getting cheap knock-offs.
Post by: HPE1000 on Thu, 28 August 2014, 10:58:43
Here you goso maybe this guy knows whats up, he is from Vietnam :cool:
not posting any usernames but you may have had some issues in the classifieds with this person.
geekhack: cherry numpad with interesting keycapsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/jJH826r.jpg)
k3 website: cherry numpad... is that the same set?! ;)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HYOel0U.jpg)
geekhack: white skull with altered eyesShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/EZdKUCB.jpg)
k3 website: hmm a mint skull with altered eyesShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/LATtiX6.jpg)
not trying to start a witch hunt but damn,
1. same cherry numpad
2. altered CC's
3. Vietnam
fun fact
k3c is working alone, and the white skull with red eyes is legit.You already have one guy from Vietnam who knows what's up. What do you need a second one for?
PMH didn't realize they were fake, and wasn't really sure until we told him. I'm giving him benefit of the doubt for now.If all of us in GH do not buy from him, he will naturally go away and haunt Reddit instead!
They're the real problem right now, because they're gonna be the ones buying these.
(http://i.imgur.com/Z4wqxgw.png)
Post by: demik on Thu, 28 August 2014, 11:24:21
so maybe this guy knows whats up, he is from Vietnam :cool:
not posting any usernames but you may have had some issues in the classifieds with this person.
geekhack: cherry numpad with interesting keycapsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/jJH826r.jpg)
k3 website: cherry numpad... is that the same set?! ;)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HYOel0U.jpg)
geekhack: white skull with altered eyesShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/EZdKUCB.jpg)
k3 website: hmm a mint skull with altered eyesShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/LATtiX6.jpg)
not trying to start a witch hunt but damn,
1. same cherry numpad
2. altered CC's
3. Vietnam
fun fact
k3c is working alone, and the white skull with red eyes is legit.You already have one guy from Vietnam who knows what's up. What do you need a second one for?
PMH didn't realize they were fake, and wasn't really sure until we told him. I'm giving him benefit of the doubt for now.If all of us in GH do not buy from him, he will naturally go away and haunt Reddit instead!
They're the real problem right now, because they're gonna be the ones buying these.
The white skull with red eyes linked in that image is NOT the real one. He has said before he painted it. Real one was last seen w/ Kisa.
Plus, what digi and bro said, pmh is ALL about getting cheap knock-offs.
Goes to show supreme detective tacticalstache is full of ****
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 28 August 2014, 11:27:25
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 28 August 2014, 11:37:09
Why is pmh not banned?
Banned for what offense, exactly?
Post by: strict on Thu, 28 August 2014, 11:37:30
Why is pmh not banned?
Seriously?
Post by: Halverson on Thu, 28 August 2014, 11:40:01
Why is pmh not banned?
Banned for what offense, exactly?
Let's not go down that road....,
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 28 August 2014, 11:41:14
Why is pmh not banned?
Banned for what offense, exactly?
Maybe ban would be too much, but posting that he would happily buy fakes, trying to make out he has had no clacks... posts 'huge' (I guess it's all relative) collections most of us can only dream off... and then reiterates in the CC pic thread that he will buy fakes while trying to make out that the CC's he's posting pics off are 100% real.
I didn't bring it up in the pic thread becasue that's not what that thread is for, but it seems a little silly that MW gets bans for annoying threads, yet a guy who openly trolls with fake/real CC's.. especially when this is a real issue seems a little much lol..... idk maybe it's just me
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 28 August 2014, 11:44:55
Post by: k3keycap5 on Thu, 28 August 2014, 12:11:29
The user i referred to in the top post also claims to be from the same area where a k3 post was tracked fromhi,
i made small poll for new keycap. Please give me some comment.
thanks.
http://goo.gl/qX7Fcl (http://server1.kproxy.com/servlet/redirect.srv/sruj/shhzdcy/s1iwolzo/p1/servlet/redirect.srv/sqm/swxq/p1/qX7Fcl)
did he make a boo boo?
***a map with a Vietnam address***
Mod Edit: Please refrain from posting personal information.
why do you want to find me, you can fly to with me?
Actually I come from Laos, now I'm doing "Khoan Cat Be Tong" in Hanoi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDgGzMN3XBc&index=1&list=UUtUxxIA_3lReiior0wMMpLw (http://server1.kproxy.com/servlet/redirect.srv/sruj/shhzdcy/s1iwolzo/p1/servlet/redirect.srv/sruj/snlffhcn/snop/p2/watch?v=FDgGzMN3XBc&index=1&list=UUtUxxIA_3lReiior0wMMpLw)
Stop making new accounts. Just GO AWAY. You are not welcome here.
why ban me while still talking about me, lol
Do you like talking behind my back?
sorry mod, do not try to ban me, or you close to the web
Thanks
Post by: IPT on Thu, 28 August 2014, 12:11:47
Why is pmh not banned?
Banned for what offense, exactly?
Maybe ban would be too much, but posting that he would happily buy fakes, trying to make out he has had no clacks... posts 'huge' (I guess it's all relative) collections most of us can only dream off... and then reiterates in the CC pic thread that he will buy fakes while trying to make out that the CC's he's posting pics off are 100% real.
I didn't bring it up in the pic thread becasue that's not what that thread is for, but it seems a little silly that MW gets bans for annoying threads, yet a guy who openly trolls with fake/real CC's.. especially when this is a real issue seems a little much lol..... idk maybe it's just me
so you want him banned because you're salty about his collection?
or upset about his morality? i mean seriously now.
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 28 August 2014, 12:15:08
Why is pmh not banned?
Banned for what offense, exactly?
Maybe ban would be too much, but posting that he would happily buy fakes, trying to make out he has had no clacks... posts 'huge' (I guess it's all relative) collections most of us can only dream off... and then reiterates in the CC pic thread that he will buy fakes while trying to make out that the CC's he's posting pics off are 100% real.
I didn't bring it up in the pic thread becasue that's not what that thread is for, but it seems a little silly that MW gets bans for annoying threads, yet a guy who openly trolls with fake/real CC's.. especially when this is a real issue seems a little much lol..... idk maybe it's just me
so you want him banned because you're salty about his collection?
or upset about his morality? i mean seriously now.
I'm not salty about his collection (if anything I'm one of the guys who loves to see the huge crazy collections), but GH seems to put up with trolls as long as they are funny.. but trolling with fake CC's isn't funny and if anything works as promotion for said fakes?
idk maybe I'm alone on this one
Post by: IPT on Thu, 28 August 2014, 12:18:50
Why is pmh not banned?
Banned for what offense, exactly?
Maybe ban would be too much, but posting that he would happily buy fakes, trying to make out he has had no clacks... posts 'huge' (I guess it's all relative) collections most of us can only dream off... and then reiterates in the CC pic thread that he will buy fakes while trying to make out that the CC's he's posting pics off are 100% real.
I didn't bring it up in the pic thread becasue that's not what that thread is for, but it seems a little silly that MW gets bans for annoying threads, yet a guy who openly trolls with fake/real CC's.. especially when this is a real issue seems a little much lol..... idk maybe it's just me
so you want him banned because you're salty about his collection?
or upset about his morality? i mean seriously now.
I'm not salty about his collection (if anything I'm one of the guys who loves to see the huge crazy collections), but GH seems to put up with trolls as long as they are funny.. but trolling with fake CC's isn't funny and if anything works as promotion for said fakes?
idk maybe I'm alone on this one
this whole thread is pretty much promoting fake clacks
honestly linking his pics, linking the FB account, the website.
Bringing attention to him and letting him trololo everyone.
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 28 August 2014, 12:21:00
Post by: IPT on Thu, 28 August 2014, 12:22:53
Yeah maybe your right.. idk I just thought it was a little much them being in the media section posted along side real CC's...
maybe delete the images but not ban him.
im 99% sure others have fake clacks or other bootleg/questionable items that they own.
doesn't make them a bad person or anything imo.
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 28 August 2014, 12:25:27
Yeah maybe your right.. idk I just thought it was a little much them being in the media section posted along side real CC's...
maybe delete the images but not ban him.
im 99% sure others have fake clacks or other bootleg/questionable items that they own.
doesn't make them a bad person or anything imo.
I think it makes them a bad person if they are openly buying/trying to buy fakes and then posting pics of said fakes in the CC pic thread :P
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 28 August 2014, 12:28:25
why ban me while still talking about me, lol
Do you like talking behind my back?
sorry mod, do not try to ban me, or you close to the web
Thanks
I never said anything about banning you. I said to GO AWAY. You are not welcome here. Now please, **** OFF.
Post by: demik on Thu, 28 August 2014, 12:30:18
why ban me while still talking about me, lol
Do you like talking behind my back?
sorry mod, do not try to ban me, or you close to the web
Thanks
I never said anything about banning you. I said to GO AWAY. You are not welcome here. Now please, **** OFF.
You know you ****ed up when you piss off carpe.
Post by: tsangan on Thu, 28 August 2014, 12:33:36
Post by: Mooby on Thu, 28 August 2014, 12:38:18
Post by: tsangan on Thu, 28 August 2014, 12:39:12
Pretty sure he's Vietnamese, too.
Or Korean, or was it Chinese?
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 28 August 2014, 12:39:49
Pretty sure he's Vietnamese, too.
Or Korean, or was it Chinese?
Defo one of those bad ones though
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 28 August 2014, 12:39:56
demilk had one of those keypads in the past i swear, it must be him!
HOLY **** IT'S YOU
also
don't ban him
just delete posts with links to the fakes
he literally gives us info
Post by: Mooby on Thu, 28 August 2014, 12:41:25
Pretty sure he's Vietnamese, too.
Or Korean, or was it Chinese?
The Chinese would never do something like that.
Post by: tsangan on Thu, 28 August 2014, 12:49:58
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 28 August 2014, 12:55:49
why ban me while still talking about me, lol
Do you like talking behind my back?
sorry mod, do not try to ban me, or you close to the web
Thanks
I never said anything about banning you. I said to GO AWAY. You are not welcome here. Now please, **** OFF.
Shouldn't you? Isn't it against the TOS to have multiple accounts?
Post by: Mooby on Thu, 28 August 2014, 13:06:07
Post by: jwaz on Thu, 28 August 2014, 13:09:00
Isn't it against the TOS to have multiple accounts?
It is, hence banned.
Post by: k3keycap6 on Thu, 28 August 2014, 13:12:34
Isn't it against the TOS to have multiple accounts?
It is, hence banned.
i had stop advertising
Post by: exitfire401 on Thu, 28 August 2014, 13:15:41
Isn't it against the TOS to have multiple accounts?
It is, hence banned.
i had stop advertising
You're now getting banned for the multiple accounts. There is no reason to keep creating accounts. If you wanted to be a part of this community, you should have read the ToS.
Post by: Mooby on Thu, 28 August 2014, 13:20:22
Post by: Lu_e on Thu, 28 August 2014, 13:25:08
this whole thread is pretty much promoting fake clacks
honestly linking his pics, linking the FB account, the website.
Bringing attention to him and letting him trololo everyone.
Thats why personally I never said the site/company name in any of my posts and cropped out the logo from the pictures. People, they don't deserve the advertising.
Post by: bazh on Thu, 28 August 2014, 13:51:12
Post by: exitfire401 on Thu, 28 August 2014, 13:59:35
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 28 August 2014, 15:03:53
Post by: Mooby on Thu, 28 August 2014, 16:17:21
Ideally the purpose of this thread would be to alert people to the existence of the fakes, so that we know which ones to avoid, and potentially which sellers to avoid if they show themselves to have a track record of selling fakes.
That's a very good idea. But I think this won't work if it's scattered across the many pages of this thread. Either the OP has to be updated or a new specific "fake clack info thread" with the mentioned information has to be made.
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 28 August 2014, 16:43:07
Ideally the purpose of this thread would be to alert people to the existence of the fakes, so that we know which ones to avoid, and potentially which sellers to avoid if they show themselves to have a track record of selling fakes.
My 2 cents as a newer member around here (who I think this thread best serves, people new to the community): it doesn't serve that function very well in the "off topic" forum. I only recently this week or so even started reading this forum. It might be better located in either the artisan forum or the keycap forum to improve visibility to visitors or new members.
Separately, people should probably get less heated. Feeding the egos of the counterfeit cap makers and bringing race into the argument doesn't bode well for this place as a community. Additionally, everyone's frustrated, but alienating members for playing the devil's advocate and having opposing views is only going to make the situation worse.
Post by: keyton on Thu, 28 August 2014, 16:50:20
this whole thread is pretty much promoting fake clacks
honestly linking his pics, linking the FB account, the website.
Bringing attention to him and letting him trololo everyone.
Thats why personally I never said the site/company name in any of my posts and cropped out the logo from the pictures. People, they don't deserve the advertising.
Got a link?
;D
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 28 August 2014, 16:51:30
Post by: HPE1000 on Thu, 28 August 2014, 17:12:24
that smiley face deters me from giving you a link;D
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 28 August 2014, 17:40:03
Thanks, pir!
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 28 August 2014, 18:27:45
a youtube channel exists now
Thanks, pir!
A channel for what?
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 28 August 2014, 19:15:03
Post by: dustinhxc on Sat, 30 August 2014, 01:55:15
why ban me while still talking about me, lol
Do you like talking behind my back?
sorry mod, do not try to ban me, or you close to the web
Thanks
I never said anything about banning you. I said to GO AWAY. You are not welcome here. Now please, **** OFF.
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/clap-gif-29.gif)
Post by: CaptLock on Sat, 30 August 2014, 09:09:12
that smiley face deters me from giving you a link
found it
Post by: absyrd on Sat, 30 August 2014, 10:04:40
that smiley face deters me from giving you a link
found it
http://www.editthatbull****out.com
Fixed.
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 30 August 2014, 10:24:00
And you just put the link somewhere.
Post by: dustinhxc on Sat, 30 August 2014, 13:56:01
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=24467.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=24467.0)
Here is the only link you should go to...
Post by: Grim Fandango on Sat, 30 August 2014, 14:01:32
*facepalm*
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=24467.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=24467.0)
Here is the only link you should go to...
This. Please remove the other link. There is no reason to have it here.
Post by: dustinhxc on Sat, 30 August 2014, 14:05:33
*facepalm*
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=24467.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=24467.0)
Here is the only link you should go to...
This. Please remove the other link. There is no reason to have it here.
Exactly..
PS If you are thinking of entering both sales, remember that the others are not MADE by clack. So what is the point of owning one? Because it LOOKS like clacks work? If my candy corn wasnt MADE by him, I would lose any interest in it and take it off my board.. Fake clacks are so ****ing stupid...
Post by: Grim Fandango on Sat, 30 August 2014, 14:09:41
Post by: dustinhxc on Sat, 30 August 2014, 14:14:13
Additionally it is just not something you want to promote. Think about the long term effects of buying these and what it can do to people who make artisan keycaps. If their work would simply get copied every single time they make something people like, and those imitations sell well, then that leaves them with very little incentive to put any effort into making new things. That is not what you want to have happen. Not to mention how unfair it is to just make a mold of something someone else made, and replicate it.
Bingo, perfectly said.
Post by: MJ45 on Sat, 30 August 2014, 14:21:57
Additionally it is just not something you want to promote. Think about the long term effects of buying these and what it can do to people who make artisan keycaps. If their work would simply get copied every single time they make something people like, and those imitations sell well, then that leaves them with very little incentive to put any effort into making new things. That is not what you want to have happen. Not to mention how unfair it is to just make a mold of something someone else made, and replicate it.
"Amen GH Brothers" it's time to put this clone crap behind us and move on.
Post by: Signature on Sat, 30 August 2014, 14:25:30
Additionally it is just not something you want to promote. Think about the long term effects of buying these and what it can do to people who make artisan keycaps. If their work would simply get copied every single time they make something people like, and those imitations sell well, then that leaves them with very little incentive to put any effort into making new things. That is not what you want to have happen. Not to mention how unfair it is to just make a mold of something someone else made, and replicate it.Good thought. I think you have to compare clacks with paintings. A lot of famous paintings have been replicated just to sell them at an affordable price point and you can´t really stop it. I think the best idea for clackfactory is to make some signature signs to know if your clack is authentic or not, but not tell the signs publicly!
Post by: Aidenknives on Sat, 30 August 2014, 14:27:47
Post by: redskull on Sat, 30 August 2014, 23:18:40
You guys do know they will all sell today right? Between Reddit and the awareness being spread about them in general...IMO most of them are aware of what they really are and would still buy them.
Post by: IPT on Sat, 30 August 2014, 23:20:21
Post by: BamBooBam on Sat, 30 August 2014, 23:25:00
Post by: BamBooBam on Sat, 30 August 2014, 23:30:00
Post by: argcargv on Sun, 31 August 2014, 02:54:36
The site is built with wordpress with some kind of shopping addon theme, and the entire site's URL structures follows the so called RESTful API structure. basically means that the urls are "pretty" and so can be "guessed", so you can access pages directly through url if you guessed it correctly(this is not "safe" but makes developing for mobile and web browser at the same time easier because both platforms can essentially just make the same API requests.), for example if you want to access their shop just do baseurl/shop, the url structure behaves very good and it is very easy to guess what pages should have what url.
I think the fake clack maker is not very good with computer so they chose some wordpress shopping theme that could not handle time sensitive sales. For example just by guessing the URL, some users were able to access some restricted pages that should not have been turned on to begin with.
I did some digging through the URL structure, even before the sale, it was apparent that some users realized that they could access pages that's not supposed to be turned on: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2ev30u/upcoming_keycap_sale/ck3y5i3
But the most interesting part of the website is the "news" sectioned. It is completely native wordpress. You can even register with the wordpress blog backend. Meaning that the fake clack makers either are amateurs or rushed their website job, that they forgot to turn off wordpress's native registration... If you've used wordpress extensively before, you know this means that you might be able to see the backend of the website... So I registered an account and what do I see? Their complete shop statistics on how many purchases there were.
SO, if you are wondering how much this did sell? Go to their news section and register an account with them.
For science. I'm not going to list the exact numbers, go see for yourself. But the number of orders and the total sales(dollar amount I assume) checks out to be about 2 fake clacks per order on average.
Post by: Aidenknives on Sun, 31 August 2014, 03:28:47
Some analysis:+1 on this, deff accurate info. The biggest problem I would have is not with these caps by themselves. It is with people who will buy them and try to pass them off as real Clacks and rip someone off. If I was a buyer, I would be wary of whats under the cap and whether or not it is photo-shopped.
The site is built with wordpress with some kind of shopping addon theme, and the entire site's URL structures follows the so called RESTful API structure. basically means that the urls are "pretty" and so can be "guessed", so you can access pages directly through url if you guessed it correctly(this is not "safe" but makes developing for mobile and web browser at the same time easier because both platforms can essentially just make the same API requests.), for example if you want to access their shop just do baseurl/shop, the url structure behaves very good and it is very easy to guess what pages should have what url.
I think the fake clack maker is not very good with computer so they chose some wordpress shopping theme that could not handle time sensitive sales. For example just by guessing the URL, some users were able to access some restricted pages that should not have been turned on to begin with.
I did some digging through the URL structure, even before the sale, it was apparent that some users realized that they could access pages that's not supposed to be turned on: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2ev30u/upcoming_keycap_sale/ck3y5i3
But the most interesting part of the website is the "news" sectioned. It is completely native wordpress. You can even register with the wordpress blog backend. Meaning that the fake clack makers either are amateurs or rushed their website job, that they forgot to turn off wordpress's native registration... If you've used wordpress extensively before, you know this means that you might be able to see the backend of the website... So I registered an account and what do I see? Their complete shop statistics on how many purchases there were.
SO, if you are wondering how much this did sell? Go to their news section and register an account with them.
For science. I'm not going to list the exact numbers, go see for yourself. But the number of orders and the total sales(dollar amount I assume) checks out to be about 2 fake clacks per order on average.
Post by: argcargv on Sun, 31 August 2014, 14:16:20
But because the URL structure is still RESTful structure, you can still guess and access the admin section by just doing this:
http://www.k3kc.com/wp-admin/
or
http://www.k3kc.com/admin/
Post by: slickmamba on Sun, 31 August 2014, 16:10:45
You guys do know they will all sell today right? Between Reddit and the awareness being spread about them in general...
Guess not
Post by: argcargv on Sun, 31 August 2014, 16:27:37
You guys do know they will all sell today right? Between Reddit and the awareness being spread about them in general...
Guess not
yeah, guess not many other people care about clickclacks outside of geekhack
Post by: Aidenknives on Sun, 31 August 2014, 16:31:51
The amount sold is double digits if that means anything to you..You guys do know they will all sell today right? Between Reddit and the awareness being spread about them in general...
Guess not
yeah, guess not many other people care about clickclacks outside of geekhack
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 31 August 2014, 16:34:15
In both MX and Topre.
CC knows, he's just INCREDIBLY busy right now. He'll get to it when he gets to it.
Post by: Aidenknives on Sun, 31 August 2014, 16:40:11
2/3 sold out in under 2 hours, and the 3rd color is sold out now.Get to what?
In both MX and Topre.
CC knows, he's just INCREDIBLY busy right now. He'll get to it when he gets to it.
Post by: argcargv on Sun, 31 August 2014, 16:47:03
The amount sold is double digits if that means anything to you..
and how many people are on r/MK ?
Post by: Aidenknives on Sun, 31 August 2014, 16:48:42
What does that have to do with anything? Here - http://i.imgur.com/gBanli8.pngThe amount sold is double digits if that means anything to you..
and how many people are on r/MK ?
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 31 August 2014, 16:54:35
2/3 sold out in under 2 hours, and the 3rd color is sold out now.Get to what?
In both MX and Topre.
CC knows, he's just INCREDIBLY busy right now. He'll get to it when he gets to it.
(http://www.gifsplosion.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/stone-cold-steve-austin-stone-cold-stunner.gif)
Some analysis:
The site is built with wordpress with some kind of shopping addon theme, and the entire site's URL structures follows the so called RESTful API structure. basically means that the urls are "pretty" and so can be "guessed", so you can access pages directly through url if you guessed it correctly(this is not "safe" but makes developing for mobile and web browser at the same time easier because both platforms can essentially just make the same API requests.), for example if you want to access their shop just do baseurl/shop, the url structure behaves very good and it is very easy to guess what pages should have what url.
I think the fake clack maker is not very good with computer so they chose some wordpress shopping theme that could not handle time sensitive sales. For example just by guessing the URL, some users were able to access some restricted pages that should not have been turned on to begin with.
I did some digging through the URL structure, even before the sale, it was apparent that some users realized that they could access pages that's not supposed to be turned on: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2ev30u/upcoming_keycap_sale/ck3y5i3
But the most interesting part of the website is the "news" sectioned. It is completely native wordpress. You can even register with the wordpress blog backend. Meaning that the fake clack makers either are amateurs or rushed their website job, that they forgot to turn off wordpress's native registration... If you've used wordpress extensively before, you know this means that you might be able to see the backend of the website... So I registered an account and what do I see? Their complete shop statistics on how many purchases there were.
SO, if you are wondering how much this did sell? Go to their news section and register an account with them.
For science. I'm not going to list the exact numbers, go see for yourself. But the number of orders and the total sales(dollar amount I assume) checks out to be about 2 fake clacks per order on average.
haha, yes I noticed that too.. One could say.. Boot linux.. annnd run WPScan.. orrr you know.. ;)
Post by: Aidenknives on Sun, 31 August 2014, 17:00:27
Lol nothing will happen.2/3 sold out in under 2 hours, and the 3rd color is sold out now.Get to what?
In both MX and Topre.
CC knows, he's just INCREDIBLY busy right now. He'll get to it when he gets to it.Show Image(http://www.gifsplosion.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/stone-cold-steve-austin-stone-cold-stunner.gif)Some analysis:
The site is built with wordpress with some kind of shopping addon theme, and the entire site's URL structures follows the so called RESTful API structure. basically means that the urls are "pretty" and so can be "guessed", so you can access pages directly through url if you guessed it correctly(this is not "safe" but makes developing for mobile and web browser at the same time easier because both platforms can essentially just make the same API requests.), for example if you want to access their shop just do baseurl/shop, the url structure behaves very good and it is very easy to guess what pages should have what url.
I think the fake clack maker is not very good with computer so they chose some wordpress shopping theme that could not handle time sensitive sales. For example just by guessing the URL, some users were able to access some restricted pages that should not have been turned on to begin with.
I did some digging through the URL structure, even before the sale, it was apparent that some users realized that they could access pages that's not supposed to be turned on: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2ev30u/upcoming_keycap_sale/ck3y5i3
But the most interesting part of the website is the "news" sectioned. It is completely native wordpress. You can even register with the wordpress blog backend. Meaning that the fake clack makers either are amateurs or rushed their website job, that they forgot to turn off wordpress's native registration... If you've used wordpress extensively before, you know this means that you might be able to see the backend of the website... So I registered an account and what do I see? Their complete shop statistics on how many purchases there were.
SO, if you are wondering how much this did sell? Go to their news section and register an account with them.
For science. I'm not going to list the exact numbers, go see for yourself. But the number of orders and the total sales(dollar amount I assume) checks out to be about 2 fake clacks per order on average.
haha, yes I noticed that too.. One could say.. Boot linux.. annnd run WPScan.. orrr you know.. ;)
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 31 August 2014, 17:04:08
Lol nothing will happen.2/3 sold out in under 2 hours, and the 3rd color is sold out now.Get to what?
In both MX and Topre.
CC knows, he's just INCREDIBLY busy right now. He'll get to it when he gets to it.Show Image(http://www.gifsplosion.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/stone-cold-steve-austin-stone-cold-stunner.gif)Some analysis:
The site is built with wordpress with some kind of shopping addon theme, and the entire site's URL structures follows the so called RESTful API structure. basically means that the urls are "pretty" and so can be "guessed", so you can access pages directly through url if you guessed it correctly(this is not "safe" but makes developing for mobile and web browser at the same time easier because both platforms can essentially just make the same API requests.), for example if you want to access their shop just do baseurl/shop, the url structure behaves very good and it is very easy to guess what pages should have what url.
I think the fake clack maker is not very good with computer so they chose some wordpress shopping theme that could not handle time sensitive sales. For example just by guessing the URL, some users were able to access some restricted pages that should not have been turned on to begin with.
I did some digging through the URL structure, even before the sale, it was apparent that some users realized that they could access pages that's not supposed to be turned on: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2ev30u/upcoming_keycap_sale/ck3y5i3
But the most interesting part of the website is the "news" sectioned. It is completely native wordpress. You can even register with the wordpress blog backend. Meaning that the fake clack makers either are amateurs or rushed their website job, that they forgot to turn off wordpress's native registration... If you've used wordpress extensively before, you know this means that you might be able to see the backend of the website... So I registered an account and what do I see? Their complete shop statistics on how many purchases there were.
SO, if you are wondering how much this did sell? Go to their news section and register an account with them.
For science. I'm not going to list the exact numbers, go see for yourself. But the number of orders and the total sales(dollar amount I assume) checks out to be about 2 fake clacks per order on average.
haha, yes I noticed that too.. One could say.. Boot linux.. annnd run WPScan.. orrr you know.. ;)
Awe dang really? ^-^ I didnt think he was that secure. But I dont know much about that.
Post by: Aidenknives on Sun, 31 August 2014, 17:07:36
Post by: Tym on Sun, 31 August 2014, 17:10:12
It didn't do very much.
Unfortunately thats my limit as a hacker :))
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 31 August 2014, 17:11:42
Said it before and I will say it again. The caps themselves don't claim to be anything they aren't. They are obviously Clack knock offs. There are knock offs of everything with value in this world. The problem comes when a PERSON tries to sell them for prices correlating to the inflated value of the AUTHENTIC item. CF can't actually do anything other than spread awareness.
This would be a very bad scenario for sure.
I pinged his site.
It didn't do very much.
Unfortunately thats my limit as a hacker :))
Cool, good shot mate! :thumb:
Post by: Aidenknives on Sun, 31 August 2014, 17:12:32
I pinged his site.People actually trying to hack his site? With what to gain?
It didn't do very much.
Unfortunately thats my limit as a hacker :))
Post by: Tym on Sun, 31 August 2014, 17:17:34
People actually trying to hack his site? With what to gain?T'is a joke.
Post by: Aidenknives on Sun, 31 August 2014, 17:17:57
I kind of meant like what if they were lol.People actually trying to hack his site? With what to gain?T'is a joke.
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 31 August 2014, 17:23:15
I kind of meant like what if they were lol.People actually trying to hack his site? With what to gain?T'is a joke.
Id put a Rick Rolld video.
Post by: Aidenknives on Sun, 31 August 2014, 17:24:07
Not just any rick roll... A 10 hour long rick rollI kind of meant like what if they were lol.People actually trying to hack his site? With what to gain?T'is a joke.
Id put a Rick Rolld video.
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 31 August 2014, 17:25:40
Said it before and I will say it again. The caps themselves don't claim to be anything they aren't. They are obviously Clack knock offs. There are knock offs of everything with value in this world. The problem comes when a PERSON tries to sell them for prices correlating to the inflated value of the AUTHENTIC item. CF can't actually do anything other than spread awareness.
Except it is his IP, his copyrighted material. He has every right to assert his IP since counterfeits devalue his brand.
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 31 August 2014, 17:35:21
Said it before and I will say it again. The caps themselves don't claim to be anything they aren't. They are obviously Clack knock offs. There are knock offs of everything with value in this world. The problem comes when a PERSON tries to sell them for prices correlating to the inflated value of the AUTHENTIC item. CF can't actually do anything other than spread awareness.
Except it is his IP, his copyrighted material. He has every right to asset his IP since counterfeits devalue his brand.
And if he doesn't defend it, he can lose it.
Post by: Aidenknives on Sun, 31 August 2014, 17:35:35
I don't think anyone sees that happening... People are paying out the ass for clacks and unless everyone decides they finally don't give a **** about novelty keycaps, it will probably stay that way.Said it before and I will say it again. The caps themselves don't claim to be anything they aren't. They are obviously Clack knock offs. There are knock offs of everything with value in this world. The problem comes when a PERSON tries to sell them for prices correlating to the inflated value of the AUTHENTIC item. CF can't actually do anything other than spread awareness.
Except it is his IP, his copyrighted material. He has every right to asset his IP since counterfeits devalue his brand.
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 31 August 2014, 17:38:15
I don't think anyone sees that happening... People are paying out the ass for clacks and unless everyone decides they finally don't give a **** about novelty keycaps, it will probably stay that way.Said it before and I will say it again. The caps themselves don't claim to be anything they aren't. They are obviously Clack knock offs. There are knock offs of everything with value in this world. The problem comes when a PERSON tries to sell them for prices correlating to the inflated value of the AUTHENTIC item. CF can't actually do anything other than spread awareness.
Except it is his IP, his copyrighted material. He has every right to asset his IP since counterfeits devalue his brand.
I still fail to see how that's a justification for counterfeiting. If you want to make some money on caps, don't be an ******* and counterfeit someone else's work, make your own designs to sell. End of story.
I really don't get how you can keep defending and justifying counterfeiting.
Post by: Aidenknives on Sun, 31 August 2014, 17:40:48
Not defending. If you were more incisive you could see that I am facing the reality that it's not going anywhere.I don't think anyone sees that happening... People are paying out the ass for clacks and unless everyone decides they finally don't give a **** about novelty keycaps, it will probably stay that way.Said it before and I will say it again. The caps themselves don't claim to be anything they aren't. They are obviously Clack knock offs. There are knock offs of everything with value in this world. The problem comes when a PERSON tries to sell them for prices correlating to the inflated value of the AUTHENTIC item. CF can't actually do anything other than spread awareness.
Except it is his IP, his copyrighted material. He has every right to asset his IP since counterfeits devalue his brand.
I still fail to see how that's a justification for counterfeiting. If you want to make some money on caps, don't be an ******* and counterfeit someone else's work, make your own designs to sell. End of story.
I really don't get how you can keep defending and justifying counterfeiting.
Post by: demik on Sun, 31 August 2014, 18:15:33
Post by: argcargv on Sun, 31 August 2014, 18:31:59
Then continue with his limited editions from time to time.
Like what Nike does with it's Air Force one sneakers.
You can get a regular white AF1 anytime you want, but the limited edition ones are hard to get.
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 31 August 2014, 18:37:44
good idea tho
Post by: Aidenknives on Sun, 31 August 2014, 18:42:55
Maybe Click Clack should do a basic mass produced version, that everybody can get.This would be the most effective way to get rid of copycats. But yeah don't think we are gonna be that lucky.
Then continue with his limited editions from time to time.
Like what Nike does with it's Air Force one sneakers.
You can get a regular white AF1 anytime you want, but the limited edition ones are hard to get.
Post by: argcargv on Sun, 31 August 2014, 18:56:30
considering the man barely has enough time to make what he does now, I doubt that'll happen
good idea tho
Collaborate with someone who has the means to make a mass produced version? Maybe another cap maker? crossovers? clacks X brobots? :eek:
Post by: eth0s on Sun, 31 August 2014, 19:36:34
considering the man barely has enough time to make what he does now, I doubt that'll happen
good idea tho
Collaborate with someone who has the means to make a mass produced version? Maybe another cap maker? crossovers? clacks X brobots? :eek:
What if CC made miniature clacks? Then everybody could have like 10, instead of 1. Like mini-donuts.
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 31 August 2014, 19:40:35
considering the man barely has enough time to make what he does now, I doubt that'll happen
good idea tho
Collaborate with someone who has the means to make a mass produced version? Maybe another cap maker? crossovers? clacks X brobots? :eek:
What if CC made miniature clacks? Then everybody could have like 10, instead of 1. Like mini-donuts.
Then I could have Clacks on Clacks on Stacks.
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 31 August 2014, 20:10:38
considering the man barely has enough time to make what he does now, I doubt that'll happen
good idea tho
Collaborate with someone who has the means to make a mass produced version? Maybe another cap maker? crossovers? clacks X brobots? :eek:
What if CC made miniature clacks? Then everybody could have like 10, instead of 1. Like mini-donuts.
Someone would have to start making miniature keyboards for them to go on.
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 31 August 2014, 21:10:08
considering the man barely has enough time to make what he does now, I doubt that'll happen
good idea tho
Collaborate with someone who has the means to make a mass produced version? Maybe another cap maker? crossovers? clacks X brobots? :eek:
What if CC made miniature clacks? Then everybody could have like 10, instead of 1. Like mini-donuts.
Someone would have to start making miniature keyboards for them to go on.
considering the man barely has enough time to make what he does now, I doubt that'll happen
good idea tho
Collaborate with someone who has the means to make a mass produced version? Maybe another cap maker? crossovers? clacks X brobots? :eek:
What if CC made miniature clacks? Then everybody could have like 10, instead of 1. Like mini-donuts.
considering the man barely has enough time to make what he does now, I doubt that'll happen
good idea tho
Collaborate with someone who has the means to make a mass produced version? Maybe another cap maker? crossovers? clacks X brobots? :eek:
What if CC made miniature clacks? Then everybody could have like 10, instead of 1. Like mini-donuts.
Then I could have Clacks on Clacks on Stacks.
hahahaha
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 01 September 2014, 08:20:24
Post by: argcargv on Mon, 01 September 2014, 08:56:14
Like this by bunnylake but smaller?
Post by: limitz on Wed, 03 September 2014, 17:23:49
So looks like the fake ones didn't properly copy the bottoms. I copied my bottom from time to time in grade school. The Sunday school teachers went crazy. Kindof like everyone is going crazy now. It's amazing how things come full circle. ;-)
It's not that he didn't properly copy the bottom, it's that he's not selling them as fake Click Clacks... but a ripoff... if that makes any sense. Him not copying the bottom was conscious decision.
Post by: HipsterPunks on Wed, 03 September 2014, 17:37:16
So looks like the fake ones didn't properly copy the bottoms. I copied my bottom from time to time in grade school. The Sunday school teachers went crazy. Kindof like everyone is going crazy now. It's amazing how things come full circle. ;-)
It's not that he didn't properly copy the bottom, it's that he's not selling them as fake Click Clacks... but a ripoff... if that makes any sense. Him not copying the bottom was conscious decision.
I dont believe for a minute that the altered bottoms were the only ones released. Who knows how many unaltered bottoms he released before pulling this stunt. Remember that "genuine" clack with just the eyes painted that was in classifieds recently? Heres a photo before a huge chunk of resin was removed off the front. Atleast CC has perfected his materials and colors, these fakes will stick out like a sore thumb.
(http://i.imgur.com/MZwttct.jpg)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 03 September 2014, 18:17:40
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 03 September 2014, 18:30:45
So looks like the fake ones didn't properly copy the bottoms. I copied my bottom from time to time in grade school. The Sunday school teachers went crazy. Kindof like everyone is going crazy now. It's amazing how things come full circle. ;-)
It's not that he didn't properly copy the bottom, it's that he's not selling them as fake Click Clacks... but a ripoff... if that makes any sense. Him not copying the bottom was conscious decision.
I dont believe for a minute that the altered bottoms were the only ones released. Who knows how many unaltered bottoms he released before pulling this stunt. Remember that "genuine" clack with just the eyes painted that was in classifieds recently? Heres a photo before a huge chunk of resin was removed off the front. Atleast CC has perfected his materials and colors, these fakes will stick out like a sore thumb.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MZwttct.jpg)
Wasn't that just marker in the eyes? The resin on the front looks like it could have been scraped on something as well, like a hang nail.
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 03 September 2014, 18:32:43
So looks like the fake ones didn't properly copy the bottoms. I copied my bottom from time to time in grade school. The Sunday school teachers went crazy. Kindof like everyone is going crazy now. It's amazing how things come full circle. ;-)
It's not that he didn't properly copy the bottom, it's that he's not selling them as fake Click Clacks... but a ripoff... if that makes any sense. Him not copying the bottom was conscious decision.
I dont believe for a minute that the altered bottoms were the only ones released. Who knows how many unaltered bottoms he released before pulling this stunt. Remember that "genuine" clack with just the eyes painted that was in classifieds recently? Heres a photo before a huge chunk of resin was removed off the front. Atleast CC has perfected his materials and colors, these fakes will stick out like a sore thumb.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MZwttct.jpg)
Maybe thats his fake oktoberfest too.. I hope for the love of god he doesnt copy candy corns.. >.< The one cap I get that I know is real.
Post by: naasfu on Wed, 03 September 2014, 18:37:32
So looks like the fake ones didn't properly copy the bottoms. I copied my bottom from time to time in grade school. The Sunday school teachers went crazy. Kindof like everyone is going crazy now. It's amazing how things come full circle. ;-)
It's not that he didn't properly copy the bottom, it's that he's not selling them as fake Click Clacks... but a ripoff... if that makes any sense. Him not copying the bottom was conscious decision.
I dont believe for a minute that the altered bottoms were the only ones released. Who knows how many unaltered bottoms he released before pulling this stunt. Remember that "genuine" clack with just the eyes painted that was in classifieds recently? Heres a photo before a huge chunk of resin was removed off the front. Atleast CC has perfected his materials and colors, these fakes will stick out like a sore thumb.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MZwttct.jpg)
Wasn't that just marker in the eyes? The resin on the front looks like it could have been scraped on something as well, like a hang nail.
I thought this was just a badly abused hardcore white?
And it was scraped against something rough like Dustin's sidewalk, haha.
Screeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkk. *shudder*
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 03 September 2014, 18:38:20
So looks like the fake ones didn't properly copy the bottoms. I copied my bottom from time to time in grade school. The Sunday school teachers went crazy. Kindof like everyone is going crazy now. It's amazing how things come full circle. ;-)
It's not that he didn't properly copy the bottom, it's that he's not selling them as fake Click Clacks... but a ripoff... if that makes any sense. Him not copying the bottom was conscious decision.
I dont believe for a minute that the altered bottoms were the only ones released. Who knows how many unaltered bottoms he released before pulling this stunt. Remember that "genuine" clack with just the eyes painted that was in classifieds recently? Heres a photo before a huge chunk of resin was removed off the front. Atleast CC has perfected his materials and colors, these fakes will stick out like a sore thumb.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MZwttct.jpg)
Wasn't that just marker in the eyes? The resin on the front looks like it could have been scraped on something as well, like a hang nail.
I thought this was just a badly abused hardcore white?
And it was scraped against something rough like Dustin's sidewalk, haha.
Screeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkk. *shudder*
Haha Dustin was distracted by that sexy lady again!
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 03 September 2014, 18:46:30
So looks like the fake ones didn't properly copy the bottoms. I copied my bottom from time to time in grade school. The Sunday school teachers went crazy. Kindof like everyone is going crazy now. It's amazing how things come full circle. ;-)
It's not that he didn't properly copy the bottom, it's that he's not selling them as fake Click Clacks... but a ripoff... if that makes any sense. Him not copying the bottom was conscious decision.
I dont believe for a minute that the altered bottoms were the only ones released. Who knows how many unaltered bottoms he released before pulling this stunt. Remember that "genuine" clack with just the eyes painted that was in classifieds recently? Heres a photo before a huge chunk of resin was removed off the front. Atleast CC has perfected his materials and colors, these fakes will stick out like a sore thumb.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MZwttct.jpg)
Wasn't that just marker in the eyes? The resin on the front looks like it could have been scraped on something as well, like a hang nail.
I thought this was just a badly abused hardcore white?
And it was scraped against something rough like Dustin's sidewalk, haha.
Screeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkk. *shudder*
So looks like the fake ones didn't properly copy the bottoms. I copied my bottom from time to time in grade school. The Sunday school teachers went crazy. Kindof like everyone is going crazy now. It's amazing how things come full circle. ;-)
It's not that he didn't properly copy the bottom, it's that he's not selling them as fake Click Clacks... but a ripoff... if that makes any sense. Him not copying the bottom was conscious decision.
I dont believe for a minute that the altered bottoms were the only ones released. Who knows how many unaltered bottoms he released before pulling this stunt. Remember that "genuine" clack with just the eyes painted that was in classifieds recently? Heres a photo before a huge chunk of resin was removed off the front. Atleast CC has perfected his materials and colors, these fakes will stick out like a sore thumb.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MZwttct.jpg)
Wasn't that just marker in the eyes? The resin on the front looks like it could have been scraped on something as well, like a hang nail.
I thought this was just a badly abused hardcore white?
And it was scraped against something rough like Dustin's sidewalk, haha.
Screeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkk. *shudder*
Haha Dustin was distracted by that sexy lady again!
:)) Oh man.. Yall make me want to bring my Tekmat outside! hehe :p
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 03 September 2014, 18:47:29
So looks like the fake ones didn't properly copy the bottoms. I copied my bottom from time to time in grade school. The Sunday school teachers went crazy. Kindof like everyone is going crazy now. It's amazing how things come full circle. ;-)
It's not that he didn't properly copy the bottom, it's that he's not selling them as fake Click Clacks... but a ripoff... if that makes any sense. Him not copying the bottom was conscious decision.
I dont believe for a minute that the altered bottoms were the only ones released. Who knows how many unaltered bottoms he released before pulling this stunt. Remember that "genuine" clack with just the eyes painted that was in classifieds recently? Heres a photo before a huge chunk of resin was removed off the front. Atleast CC has perfected his materials and colors, these fakes will stick out like a sore thumb.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MZwttct.jpg)
Wasn't that just marker in the eyes? The resin on the front looks like it could have been scraped on something as well, like a hang nail.
I thought this was just a badly abused hardcore white?
And it was scraped against something rough like Dustin's sidewalk, haha.
Screeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkk. *shudder*So looks like the fake ones didn't properly copy the bottoms. I copied my bottom from time to time in grade school. The Sunday school teachers went crazy. Kindof like everyone is going crazy now. It's amazing how things come full circle. ;-)
It's not that he didn't properly copy the bottom, it's that he's not selling them as fake Click Clacks... but a ripoff... if that makes any sense. Him not copying the bottom was conscious decision.
I dont believe for a minute that the altered bottoms were the only ones released. Who knows how many unaltered bottoms he released before pulling this stunt. Remember that "genuine" clack with just the eyes painted that was in classifieds recently? Heres a photo before a huge chunk of resin was removed off the front. Atleast CC has perfected his materials and colors, these fakes will stick out like a sore thumb.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MZwttct.jpg)
Wasn't that just marker in the eyes? The resin on the front looks like it could have been scraped on something as well, like a hang nail.
I thought this was just a badly abused hardcore white?
And it was scraped against something rough like Dustin's sidewalk, haha.
Screeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkk. *shudder*
Haha Dustin was distracted by that sexy lady again!
:)) Oh man.. Yall make me want to bring my Tekmat outside! hehe :p
Lol. When I'm home I'll take some cringeworthy cap shots :D
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 03 September 2014, 19:31:19
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 03 September 2014, 19:34:06
It's almost impossible that anyone here owns one though. Less than 5 were made, and I think they were all thrown out.
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 03 September 2014, 19:45:41
If you think 100% accurate clones don't exist, I've got bad news for you.
It's almost impossible that anyone here owns one though. Less than 5 were made, and I think they were all thrown out.
Clack was sent all of them right? Except the ones on kbdmania
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 03 September 2014, 19:46:30
but CC was sent all of drugER's yes
i really can't say much, i don't know much more than what i posted
Post by: strict on Wed, 03 September 2014, 19:57:05
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 03 September 2014, 19:58:24
im still investigating
so keep it cool for now
Post by: lightsout714 on Sun, 07 September 2014, 22:26:27
not drugER
im still investigating
so keep it cool for now
TS is on the case.
Post by: Signature on Mon, 08 September 2014, 14:41:33
Also known as "TS le reddit detective"not drugER
im still investigating
so keep it cool for now
TS is on the case.
Fixed! ty nub *tips fedora*
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Mon, 08 September 2014, 15:19:34
Always looking for the scoop... :pAlso known as "TS the reddit detective"not drugER
im still investigating
so keep it cool for now
TS is on the case.
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 08 September 2014, 15:26:22
Also known as "TSnot drugER
im still investigating
so keep it cool for now
TS is on the case.thele reddit detective"
FTFY.
Post by: Signature on Mon, 08 September 2014, 15:32:32
Ty!Also known as "TSnot drugER
im still investigating
so keep it cool for now
TS is on the case.thele reddit detective"
FTFY.
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/014/711/1380697092809.jpg)
Post by: strict on Sat, 04 October 2014, 19:56:47
(http://i.imgur.com/Z5PwfdF.jpg)
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 04 October 2014, 19:58:36
Looks like another fake clack sale is in the works :-Xdamn... those are actually kinda cool lookingShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Z5PwfdF.jpg)
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 04 October 2014, 19:58:41
Post by: demik on Sat, 04 October 2014, 19:59:59
Post by: dustinhxc on Sat, 04 October 2014, 20:21:38
Looks like another fake clack sale is in the works :-XShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Z5PwfdF.jpg)
:eek:
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 04 October 2014, 20:27:37
I really, really, really want that dota cap but I'd feel like an ******* if I bought it. Why did this guy have to make fake clacks instead of just making cool new keycaps like the dota one?Same... I've always wanted to make a cap! Guess now is the time to start :p
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 04 October 2014, 20:40:32
I really, really, really want that dota cap but I'd feel like an ******* if I bought it. Why did this guy have to make fake clacks instead of just making cool new keycaps like the dota one?
Looks like a scary vagina to me. Different strokes I guess.
I really do hate how this person feels entitled to ripping off the designs of someone else and how /r/mechanicalkeyboards and ripster back them up for counterfeiting.
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 04 October 2014, 20:52:27
I really, really, really want that dota cap but I'd feel like an ******* if I bought it. Why did this guy have to make fake clacks instead of just making cool new keycaps like the dota one?
I think I might just do it :|
I've heard a bunch of people never got anything when they ordered stuff from him though
Serves them right.
Post by: demik on Sat, 04 October 2014, 21:28:42
I really, really, really want that dota cap but I'd feel like an ******* if I bought it. Why did this guy have to make fake clacks instead of just making cool new keycaps like the dota one?
Looks like a scary vagina to me. Different strokes I guess.
I really do hate how this person feels entitled to ripping off the designs of someone else and how /r/mechanicalkeyboards and ripster back them up for counterfeiting.
well they do it just to piss off gh.
and it's working.
those silly chaps
and all vaginas look scary to you
Post by: Michael on Wed, 08 October 2014, 18:35:23
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 08 October 2014, 18:39:11
"...distuinguish it from other counterfeit products..."
>:D Wow...
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 08 October 2014, 18:40:56
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/glSRJ7H.jpg)
That's hilarious! :)) The broken English just makes it funnier. :))
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 08 October 2014, 18:42:54
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 08 October 2014, 18:43:00
Oh nosssssss, I just looked under my BroBots and there are no 'Bb' stamp!!!! Did I own a dud?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/glSRJ7H.jpg)
:D
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 08 October 2014, 18:45:27
Post by: demik on Wed, 08 October 2014, 19:02:54
I literally cannot even
that's odd!
Post by: Michael on Wed, 08 October 2014, 19:05:37
I literally cannot even
that's odd!
(http://i.imgur.com/JvUQwrx.png)
Post by: tbc on Wed, 08 October 2014, 19:24:22
what do you even call that?
counter-counterfeiting?
just feiting?
Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 08 October 2014, 19:59:29
(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/aOymN7E_700b.jpg)
Thanks to bazh for osting it originally (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51797.msg1452700#msg1452700)
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 08 October 2014, 20:19:06
I literally cannot even
TIL HPE1000 is a white girl.
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 08 October 2014, 20:59:02
Post by: strict on Wed, 08 October 2014, 21:09:30
Because god forbid someone mistake their authentic clack for a K3C pile of ****
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 08 October 2014, 21:24:31
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gIpvJQj.jpg)
Because god forbid someone mistake their authentic clack for a K3C pile of ****
No, no, the Clack is an original fake. K3C is authentic and real.
Remember, don't buy just because it says FXE or CF. We all know that mark means nothing. That just signifies it's the original counterfeit.
BRB, crafting a pseudo-vagina looking cap with a K3 on the bottom to add value.
Post by: naasfu on Wed, 08 October 2014, 21:35:45
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gIpvJQj.jpg)
Because god forbid someone mistake their authentic clack for a K3C pile of ****
No, no, the Clack is an original fake. K3C is authentic and real.
Remember, don't buy just because it says FXE or CF. We all know that mark means nothing. That just signifies it's the original counterfeit.
BRB, crafting a pseudo-vagina looking cap with a K3 on the bottom to add value.
Don't believe this guy. He is a fake. The real nubs' username is "xXnubbbbbbinatorzXx", and he has "NUBS" tattooed on his ass.
( NU )( BS )
Post by: demik on Wed, 08 October 2014, 21:39:51
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 08 October 2014, 21:43:43
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gIpvJQj.jpg)
Because god forbid someone mistake their authentic clack for a K3C pile of ****
No, no, the Clack is an original fake. K3C is authentic and real.
Remember, don't buy just because it says FXE or CF. We all know that mark means nothing. That just signifies it's the original counterfeit.
BRB, crafting a pseudo-vagina looking cap with a K3 on the bottom to add value.
Don't believe this guy. He is a fake. The real nubs' username is "xXnubbbbbbinatorzXx", and he has "NUBS" tattooed on his ass.
( NU )( BS )
HARDCORE
(http://i.imgur.com/IknO34z.gif)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 08 October 2014, 22:37:42
Post by: eth0s on Mon, 13 October 2014, 23:14:19
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gIpvJQj.jpg)
Because god forbid someone mistake their authentic clack for a K3C pile of ****
No, no, the Clack is an original fake. K3C is authentic and real.
Remember, don't buy just because it says FXE or CF. We all know that mark means nothing. That just signifies it's the original counterfeit.
BRB, crafting a pseudo-vagina looking cap with a K3 on the bottom to add value.
Don't believe this guy. He is a fake. The real nubs' username is "xXnubbbbbbinatorzXx", and he has "NUBS" tattooed on his ass.
( NU )( BS )
LOL.
ZOMG. Fake Clacks and now proposed fake Bro Bots.
@K3KC: you sir, (or madam) are a piece of human waste. And not a tasty one with peanuts. Just an awful, smelly turd. Please die. Or if you cannot muster the courage to kill yourself, please flush yourself away from human society. You are not wanted. You are repellant.
I hope CC sends demik a free clack, because I will pay for demik's airfare to your lawless country, just so I can watch demik kick your nuts off. I dunno what happens to testicles after repeated kicking, but it's probably not good. Fun experiment to try. The only downside to this of course, as you are well aware, is that your testicles are so small, nobody will notice that they are gone, but w/e, it will still be fun to watch them obliterated by the boot. Kbye. Hope I see you soon. :thumb:
Anyway, this post is for humor purposes only. juejuejue. (or isn't it?)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 13 October 2014, 23:18:31
"In extreme cases, a hard strike to the testicles can cause the victim to vomit or black out and can cause the testicle to rupture, potentially sterilizing or killing the victim. There is also the possibility of shock. In many parts of the world, an attack on the male groin is considered to be sexual assault."
Females:
In extreme cases, the female victim may vomit or black out. A strike to a female's genitals can be just as damaging and debilitating as a blow to a male, if not even more so due to the location of the pubic bone just inside the female's body and the higher amount and concentration of nerve endings in the vulva than the testicles. If delivered with enough force, a kick to the female genitalia can drive the highly sensitive clitoris up into the pubic bone, compressing the clitoris between the hard bone and the attacker's shoe. Potential long-term health problems can arise for female targets of groin attacks including nerve damage to the clitoris, the pubic bone fracture because women's bones are thinner (and the bone of the pelvis of women is thinner and may break off female pelvis), hematoma, and vulvodynia.
Thank you, Wikipedia.
Post by: Coreda on Mon, 13 October 2014, 23:24:18
Thank you, Wikipedia.
Uggggh, duuude. :(
Post by: Michael on Mon, 13 October 2014, 23:25:57
Females:
In extreme cases, the female victim may vomit or black out. A strike to a female's genitals can be just as damaging and debilitating as a blow to a male, if not even more so due to the location of the pubic bone just inside the female's body and the higher amount and concentration of nerve endings in the vulva than the testicles. If delivered with enough force, a kick to the female genitalia can drive the highly sensitive clitoris up into the pubic bone, compressing the clitoris between the hard bone and the attacker's shoe. Potential long-term health problems can arise for female targets of groin attacks including nerve damage to the clitoris, the pubic bone fracture because women's bones are thinner (and the bone of the pelvis of women is thinner and may break off female pelvis), hematoma, and vulvodynia.
(http://i.imgur.com/1oDSnZq.gif)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 13 October 2014, 23:47:28
Thank you, Wikipedia.
Uggggh, duuude. :(
(http://media.giphy.com/media/2XfswSLHgkXXa/giphy.gif)
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1oDSnZq.gif)
(http://cdn2.crushable.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/ovaries-exploding-tony-stark.gif)
Right in the ovaries.
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 13 October 2014, 23:48:30
Show Image(http://singletrackworld.com/reviews/files/2009/09/CLIF-SHOT-Bloks-Glamour-Shot-1.JPG)
:))
Post by: naasfu on Tue, 14 October 2014, 00:16:29
Thank you, Wikipedia.
Uggggh, duuude. :(
that was a painful read. :'(
Post by: duc_nckt on Tue, 14 October 2014, 03:50:58
anyone bought my CC and suspicious it is fake, you can send it to CC for testing, LOL.
I was pretty annoyed when you are drawn into the story fake clack :)).
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 14 October 2014, 07:29:11
Hey, dear all gher.You can't blame people.. you have had a few suspicious trades with the 10AE and some keycaps.
anyone bought my CC and suspicious it is fake, you can send it to CC for testing, LOL.
I was pretty annoyed when you are drawn into the story fake clack :)).
Post by: henz on Tue, 14 October 2014, 08:16:45
Post by: duc_nckt on Tue, 14 October 2014, 08:40:42
Hey, dear all gher.You can't blame people.. you have had a few suspicious trades with the 10AE and some keycaps.
anyone bought my CC and suspicious it is fake, you can send it to CC for testing, LOL.
I was pretty annoyed when you are drawn into the story fake clack :)).
look at the way i solve this problem. OK?
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 14 October 2014, 08:42:30
No, that is AFTER the problem happened. If you were open about the condition of the items you are selling in the first place, this would have been avoided.Hey, dear all gher.You can't blame people.. you have had a few suspicious trades with the 10AE and some keycaps.
anyone bought my CC and suspicious it is fake, you can send it to CC for testing, LOL.
I was pretty annoyed when you are drawn into the story fake clack :)).
look at the way i solve this problem. OK?
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 14 October 2014, 14:08:29
Loving the drama! Im guessing im not at a level to understand how important these clacks and bots are to people. Sux ppl are starting to counterfiet them :(
Please consider that this is not typical of Geekhack.
Occasionally there are moments of peace where people talk about keyboards.
There are legitimate Clack sales, some planned ahead of time, some thrown in as a surprise, that everyone looks forward to, and then excitedly share pictures of their winnings afterwards, or spread tales of woe and misfortune due to a mis-addressed email or unreliable internet connections.
Happy days.
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 14 October 2014, 16:48:19
Loving the drama! Im guessing im not at a level to understand how important these clacks and bots are to people. Sux ppl are starting to counterfiet them :(
Please consider that this is not typical of Geekhack.
Occasionally there are moments of peace where people talk about keyboards.
There are legitimate Clack sales, some planned ahead of time, some thrown in as a surprise, that everyone looks forward to, and then excitedly share pictures of their winnings afterwards, or spread tales of woe and misfortune due to a mis-addressed email or unreliable internet connections.
Happy days.
In speaking of sales... Are you subscribed to all of CC's threads to keep the edge?
So I'm on k3k's site....
"Do not buy just because you think under keycap have other logo such as cc, cf, bb, fxe… !!"
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/173/576/Wat8.jpg?1315930535)
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 14 October 2014, 21:47:46
Loving the drama! Im guessing im not at a level to understand how important these clacks and bots are to people. Sux ppl are starting to counterfiet them :(
Please consider that this is not typical of Geekhack.
Occasionally there are moments of peace where people talk about keyboards.
There are legitimate Clack sales, some planned ahead of time, some thrown in as a surprise, that everyone looks forward to, and then excitedly share pictures of their winnings afterwards, or spread tales of woe and misfortune due to a mis-addressed email or unreliable internet connections.
Happy days.
In speaking of sales... Are you subscribed to all of CC's threads to keep the edge?
So I'm on k3k's site....
"Do not buy just because you think under keycap have other logo such as cc, cf, bb, fxe… !!"Show Image(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/173/576/Wat8.jpg?1315930535)
Yes, subscribed to all of them, but sometimes I do not get notifications. Quirk of GH, I supposed. There is plenty of chatter about sales in other threads though.
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 17 October 2014, 23:49:02
If a buyer files a Significantly Not as Described (SNAD) Claim for an item he or she purchased from you, you will generally be required to accept the item back and refund the buyer the full purchase price plus original shipping costs. You will not receive a refund on your PayPal Fees. Further, if you lose a SNAD Claim because we, in our sole discretion, reasonably believe the item you sold is counterfeit, you will be required to provide a full refund to the buyer and you will not receive the item back. In some cases (for instance, if you lose a SNAD Claim because the item you sold is counterfeit) you might not receive the item back from the buyer (for instance, it may be disposed of or otherwise irreversibly dealt with). PayPal Seller Protection will not cover your liability for SNAD Claims.
We can really butt-**** with k3kc by treating his cap as counterfeit... LOL!
Post by: keyton on Sat, 18 October 2014, 09:41:49
Post by: Signature on Sat, 18 October 2014, 09:51:28
Please send all fake ClickClacks to me that are confiscatedDo me a favour and cease to exist
Post by: Michael on Sat, 18 October 2014, 10:35:34
(http://i.imgur.com/K5Fo6VX.jpg)
http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/keycap-laboratory.26.html
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 18 October 2014, 10:52:39
[attachimg=2]
seems legit
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 10:58:25
So we know with 100% accuracy who the guy is, but I wont post his info here. When I confronted them on their forum, they deleted my posts and put a 20 post requirement to post (LOL). So I made a new account (note the ID)...I just can't believe they seem to be openly supporting the guy over there... (Wonder if PMH had anything to do with the ban :P)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/K5Fo6VX.jpg)
http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/keycap-laboratory.26.html
Post by: exitfire401 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:00:03
Spam, weren't those just photoshopped? I though CC got mad at the guy though because everyone started messaging him because they thought there was a sale or something. (I mean that about the first picture, not the 2nd)
Don't believe they were shopped. This isn't the first picture of these to come out.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:00:56
Spam, weren't those just photoshopped? I though CC got mad at the guy though because everyone started messaging him because they thought there was a sale or something. (I mean that about the first picture, not the 2nd)So we know with 100% accuracy who the guy is, but I wont post his info here. When I confronted them on their forum, they deleted my posts and put a 20 post requirement to post (LOL). So I made a new account (note the ID)...I just can't believe they seem to be openly supporting the guy over there... (Wonder if PMH had anything to do with the ban :P)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/K5Fo6VX.jpg)
http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/keycap-laboratory.26.html
Sure.....'photoshopped'....yeah.....do you guys not get the emails with all the details about what's really going on?
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:01:32
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:03:28
I don't agree with them on any of that, I'm just pointing out what I think is their thought process.
I really hate doing business and go out of my way to avoid buying things made in certain places because I don't want to contribute to their criminal economy. Still hard though.
Edit: again, just want to reiterate that I vehemently disagree with their view. Just wanted to share my observation since I lived in China for a long time and have been to many of the places related to this topic.
Post by: strict on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:09:14
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:17:32
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
seems legit
we know that the first ones were photoshopped and never actually produced, he said so himself, and supplied original photos IIRC.
and for the love of whatever deity you believe in, PMH has nothing to do with this. I've said it before, I'll say it again. He got gifted some fakes from his friend, he doesn't make them, he doesn't support them. Can we stop crucifying him and all the other Vietnamese members EVERY time he/they posts? Most of them are totally innocent.
Thanks,
-TS
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:18:52
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
seems legit
we know that the first ones were photoshopped and never actually produced, he said so himself, and supplied original photos IIRC.
and for the love of whatever deity you believe in, PMH has nothing to do with this. I've said it before, I'll say it again. He got gifted some fakes from his friend, he doesn't make them, he doesn't support them. Can we stop crucifying him and all the other Vietnamese members EVERY time he/they posts? Most of them are totally innocent.
Thanks,
-TS
That's not what my emails say.
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:20:30
Post by: Michael on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:22:08
Many areas over there have no concept of copyright or intellectual property. They don't understand how wrong it is, and I think they view us as making too big a deal out of it.
They know exactly what a big deal it is to us, and he (GH username: megaxpop) taunts and teases at that point.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:22:38
Ray, did i miss something?
Apparently.
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:23:13
I just can't believe they seem to be openly supporting the guy over there... (Wonder if PMH had anything to do with the ban :P)
Regardless of whether he did (which I'm sure he did), the fact that he supports K3 and had given him a place to display his wares is despicable. I don't know why pmh is still not banned here.
Many areas over there have no concept of copyright or intellectual property. They don't understand how wrong it is, and I think they view us as making too big a deal out of it.
I don't agree with them on any of that, I'm just pointing out what I think is their thought process.
Many places do have that mindset and you see a lot of that mindset over on Reddit, which is ironic given how much they ***** about other sites "stealing" their content and ***** if someone steals their product and rips it off.
That said, it's apparent that K3 doesn't fit into that category. He knows what he is doing is wrong, but doesn't give a **** and would rather be spiteful and vindictive and make money off someone else's work.
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:23:59
Ray, did i miss something?
Apparently.
Well...
What did I miss?
I'm really confused all of a sudden
Post by: baldgye on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:31:27
Ray, did i miss something?
Apparently.
Well...
What did I miss?
I'm really confused all of a sudden
I think its in the 'post your bros' thread in media... But I have trouble tracking it all... As mods see fit to randomly allow chat in one place and not another, then that changes etc...
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:34:03
and for the love of whatever deity you believe in, PMH has nothing to do with this. I've said it before, I'll say it again. He got gifted some fakes from his friend, he doesn't make them, he doesn't support them. Can we stop crucifying him and all the other Vietnamese members EVERY time he/they posts? Most of them are totally innocent.
Well to start, pmh is a mod on the Vietnamese forum where K3 has a sub and he has praised K3 in his threads. That in and of it's self warrants him being crucified since he obviously has the power to stop it.
Secondly,
How is your friend doing, you know, the one making the fake clacks for you?
It's a gift from one of my friend, i will hold it for my keyboard.
If he made more CC or BB, i will buy more color for my keyboard. I don't care official or not, i care only his quality of keycap and detail of logo.
So hard to get more CC a longtime so i need something for replace. But All CCs i was sell or traded on GH is OFFICIAL, Naasfu and T2russo was receivered, you can request us to verify.
pmh1410
From here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62119.msg1448342#msg1448342). He has admitted multiple times and places that he supports the counterfeiter and would buy his stuff for the same BS reason you see on Reddit, because it's too hard to get them and he deserves them.
Post by: demik on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:44:31
I just can't believe they seem to be openly supporting the guy over there... (Wonder if PMH had anything to do with the ban :P)
Regardless of whether he did (which I'm sure he did), the fact that he supports K3 and had given him a place to display his wares is despicable. I don't know why pmh is still not banned here.Many areas over there have no concept of copyright or intellectual property. They don't understand how wrong it is, and I think they view us as making too big a deal out of it.
I don't agree with them on any of that, I'm just pointing out what I think is their thought process.
Many places do have that mindset and you see a lot of that mindset over on Reddit, which is ironic given how much they ***** about other sites "stealing" their content and ***** if someone steals their product and rips it off.
That said, it's apparent that K3 doesn't fit into that category. He knows what he is doing is wrong, but doesn't give a **** and would rather be spiteful and vindictive and make money off someone else's work.
because you only get banned when youre a naughty boy. not when, you know, support scammers.
Post by: pmh1410 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:51:08
and for the love of whatever deity you believe in, PMH has nothing to do with this. I've said it before, I'll say it again. He got gifted some fakes from his friend, he doesn't make them, he doesn't support them. Can we stop crucifying him and all the other Vietnamese members EVERY time he/they posts? Most of them are totally innocent.
Well to start, pmh is a mod on the Vietnamese forum where K3 has a sub and he has praised K3 in his threads. That in and of it's self warrants him being crucified since he obviously has the power to stop it.
Secondly,How is your friend doing, you know, the one making the fake clacks for you?
It's a gift from one of my friend, i will hold it for my keyboard.
If he made more CC or BB, i will buy more color for my keyboard. I don't care official or not, i care only his quality of keycap and detail of logo.
So hard to get more CC a longtime so i need something for replace. But All CCs i was sell or traded on GH is OFFICIAL, Naasfu and T2russo was receivered, you can request us to verify.
pmh1410
From here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62119.msg1448342#msg1448342). He has admitted multiple times and places that he supports the counterfeiter and would buy his stuff for the same BS reason you see on Reddit, because it's too hard to get them and he deserves them.
Crammer, i only want to buy it, not support him. Which rules did that i can not buy something i want to get if i can ?
If you care something fake so you don't buy it. Luis Vutton fake have many, you can not say many people in the world stop to buy it.
Post by: baldgye on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:53:25
and for the love of whatever deity you believe in, PMH has nothing to do with this. I've said it before, I'll say it again. He got gifted some fakes from his friend, he doesn't make them, he doesn't support them. Can we stop crucifying him and all the other Vietnamese members EVERY time he/they posts? Most of them are totally innocent.
Well to start, pmh is a mod on the Vietnamese forum where K3 has a sub and he has praised K3 in his threads. That in and of it's self warrants him being crucified since he obviously has the power to stop it.
Secondly,How is your friend doing, you know, the one making the fake clacks for you?
It's a gift from one of my friend, i will hold it for my keyboard.
If he made more CC or BB, i will buy more color for my keyboard. I don't care official or not, i care only his quality of keycap and detail of logo.
So hard to get more CC a longtime so i need something for replace. But All CCs i was sell or traded on GH is OFFICIAL, Naasfu and T2russo was receivered, you can request us to verify.
pmh1410
From here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62119.msg1448342#msg1448342). He has admitted multiple times and places that he supports the counterfeiter and would buy his stuff for the same BS reason you see on Reddit, because it's too hard to get them and he deserves them.
Crammer, i only want to buy it, not support him. Which rules did that i can not buy something i want to get if i can ?
Ahh ok, I think this has helped clear it all up! Thank you for your intelligent and insiteful post!
Post by: exitfire401 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:53:43
i only want to buy it, not support him.
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Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:55:06
If you knowingly buy fakes, you are supporting them. That's basic level stuff that everyone should understand.
Also, given the fact that your forum has a K3 subsection and you have said stuff like "Nice ****: v" about his work, it's pretty damn obvious that you support him.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:57:52
Post by: baldgye on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:58:05
Post by: strict on Sat, 18 October 2014, 11:58:10
Crammer, i only want to buy it, not support him. Which rules did that i can not buy something i want to get if i can ?
Buying == supporting.
Post by: pmh1410 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 12:03:29
I can only say with him stop do it but depende his decide.
Post by: demik on Sat, 18 October 2014, 12:05:49
Many GHers bought it included Brocaps
brocaps bought it to prove how horrible they are.
and ppl that knowingly bought fakes should be banned also.
Post by: Michael on Sat, 18 October 2014, 12:10:47
Many GHers bought it included Brocaps.
I can only say with him stop do it but depende his decide.
You have extremely flawed logic, sir. You are saying in your signature that I should not be allowed to make money from my craft, but megaxpop can charge for making copies of my work? You can't be that ignorant.... or maybe you can...
I took photos of the fake clacks and sent it to paypal, then returned the caps to megaxpop. I had to prove my claim. And I did.
megaxpop is clearly butthurt about something. But your statement about me not being able to make money from my work is ridiculous. If you are so righteous, then you sell all of your clacks for $10 right now. megaxpop - sell YOUR (you know, those terrible dota ones) caps for no profit. No, you would rather profit from others works, right? lulz
Post by: pmh1410 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 12:11:36
Many GHers bought it included Brocaps
brocaps bought it to prove how horrible they are.
and ppl that knowingly bought fakes should be banned also.
Me too, i want to get for compare with my OG Click Clack. Just want to know the quality and colors.
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 12:13:47
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAMany GHers bought it included Brocaps
brocaps bought it to prove how horrible they are.
and ppl that knowingly bought fakes should be banned also.
Me too, i want to get for compare with my OG Click Clack. Just want to know the quality and colors.
Post by: demik on Sat, 18 October 2014, 12:14:18
Many GHers bought it included Brocaps
brocaps bought it to prove how horrible they are.
and ppl that knowingly bought fakes should be banned also.
Me too, i want to get for compare with my OG Click Clack. Just want to know the quality and colors.
bull****. you cried how others cant afford it so clones are okay.
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 18 October 2014, 12:15:12
Many GHers bought it included Brocaps.
I can only say with him stop do it but depende his decide.
And those GHers should be shamed and/or banned.
You can do much more than tell him to stop. You had many choices you could have made, but chose not to. You could have encouraged him to make other caps instead of counterfeits. You could have denied him a subforum in your forum. You could have admonished him and told him not to make counterfeits from the very beginning. You could have destroyed the fakes he sent you and never posted pictures or them on here. You could have worked with Clack and Bro from the very beginning to let them know who the counterfeiter was so they could bring legal recourse against him. There are a ton of things you could do; however, you choose not to do them.
Post by: demik on Sat, 18 October 2014, 12:17:11
youre okay with this ass hat making money by stealing brocaps design but you dont want brocaps to make money? seriously what the ****.
Post by: pmh1410 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 12:35:39
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 12:37:33
Post by: demik on Sat, 18 October 2014, 12:39:42
I don't care story behind K3KC and Brocaps because keycap is only for typing. It's not GOLD.
then why do you care if your friends can afford them or not?
i mean they are just plastic so they can do without it.
Post by: epzy on Sat, 18 October 2014, 12:40:54
/baconsnacks
Post by: byker on Sat, 18 October 2014, 12:56:23
It's like he is purposely contradicting himself as much as possible :blank:
This, maybe he is having troubles writing what he means in English?
Post by: pmh1410 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 12:58:00
I don't care story behind K3KC and Brocaps because keycap is only for typing. It's not GOLD.
then why do you care if your friends can afford them or not?
i mean they are just plastic so they can do without it.
Pls tell with K3KC. I can't decide for him.
Post by: demik on Sat, 18 October 2014, 13:08:20
I don't care story behind K3KC and Brocaps because keycap is only for typing. It's not GOLD.
then why do you care if your friends can afford them or not?
i mean they are just plastic so they can do without it.
Pls tell with K3KC. I can't decide for him.
im going off the excuses youve used to support him.
Post by: zennasyndroxx on Sat, 18 October 2014, 13:35:56
Note: i cant afford og bb or cc, never lucky enough to win them yet and not supporting fakes.
Post by: Signature on Sat, 18 October 2014, 13:38:00
What if k3kc decides to give them free instead? LolWhy the fk would he do that?
Note: i cant afford og bb, never lucky enough to win them yet and not supporting fakes.
Post by: zennasyndroxx on Sat, 18 October 2014, 13:42:10
What if k3kc decides to give them free instead? LolWhy the fk would he do that?
Note: i cant afford og bb, never lucky enough to win them yet and not supporting fakes.
I've no idea but who knows what's gonna happen next? Looks like he has more keycaps on the way for sales. :(
Post by: pear_voz on Sat, 18 October 2014, 14:08:48
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seems legit
Oh this ss is a shame, fkin shame :(
Post by: bazh on Sat, 18 October 2014, 14:20:42
Spam, weren't those just photoshopped? I though CC got mad at the guy though because everyone started messaging him because they thought there was a sale or something. (I mean that about the first picture, not the 2nd)So we know with 100% accuracy who the guy is, but I wont post his info here. When I confronted them on their forum, they deleted my posts and put a 20 post requirement to post (LOL). So I made a new account (note the ID)...I just can't believe they seem to be openly supporting the guy over there... (Wonder if PMH had anything to do with the ban :P)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/K5Fo6VX.jpg)
http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/keycap-laboratory.26.html
you are talking about a Vietnamese community where those who're considered as elder in the field (has more experiences) are gods and everything they told is the one truth so yeah, if someone like that has their speaking supporting it then, you know what
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 14:28:42
(Just wanted to put that out there in case my original message were to be misunderstood)
Post by: bazh on Sat, 18 October 2014, 14:38:55
Don't get me wrong, I am not generalizing, but the fact that he is allowed to have a little subforum along side people like feng just strikes me wrong. Google translate fails me in deciphering what the comments on those threads are though so they could be negative for all I know.
(Just wanted to put that out there in case my original message were to be misunderstood)
no you were right, I took a look at that forum and it's pretty much that :blank:
//just put the cmt you want to know here I'll do the translation jobs for you :D
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sat, 18 October 2014, 14:54:53
Post by: HipsterPunks on Sat, 18 October 2014, 16:43:46
I'm so sick of pmh's logic... Someone get him out of here. Please!
(http://i.imgur.com/C5rk6O6.gif)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sat, 18 October 2014, 17:17:58
Post by: kmiller8 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 19:41:12
because more drama is more better
Post by: MiTo on Sat, 18 October 2014, 20:27:27
The man has access to insanely huge and solid keyboard communities, decent tooling, logistics, a decent website and apparently a legit buying system and simply chose to throw away probably a commercial opportunity that he could take for life.
Demand for these novelties is growing everyday, because of the expansion of the keyboard communities and because of the notoriety mechanical keyboards are receiving lately.
eSports are already huge, just look at Asian tournaments and you'll see. Many games and themes to work on, so many colors and features that he could implement. He could ignite an entire market share if had decided to do that in the past. Now he's burnt.
It's like someone being able to build good electric cars and then choosing to copy Teslas instead, and then finding that funny, legit and smart. And then becoming hated and a joke on the market.
Oh, look at me, I'm "competing with the industry."
I don't know what's going trough the head of someone that still support this guy.
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 18 October 2014, 21:15:44
All I can conclude after everything that happened on this thread, is that K3 is a complete ignorant and a stupid individual.
The man has access to insanely huge and solid keyboard communities, decent tooling, logistics, a decent website and apparently a legit buying system and simply chose to throw away probably a commercial opportunity that he could take for life.
Demand for these novelties is growing everyday, because of the expansion of the keyboard communities and because of the notoriety mechanical keyboards are receiving lately.
eSports are already huge, just look at Asian tournaments and you'll see. Many games and themes to work on, so many colors and features that he could implement. He could ignite an entire market share if had decided to do that in the past. Now he's burnt.
It's like someone being able to build good electric cars and then choosing to copy Teslas instead, and then finding that funny, legit and smart. And then becoming hated and a joke on the market.
Oh, look at me, I'm "competing with the industry."
I don't know what's going trough the head of someone that still support this guy.
I didn't think I'd end up saying that I agree with one of your posts, but I agree with this post.
Post by: tmk1207 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 21:19:02
So we know with 100% accuracy who the guy is, but I wont post his info here. When I confronted them on their forum, they deleted my posts and put a 20 post requirement to post (LOL). So I made a new account (note the ID)...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/K5Fo6VX.jpg)
http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/keycap-laboratory.26.html
Hi Brocaps,
We are welcome you to vietnamese Mechanical Keyboard community. But if you join us to sabotage, gossip about a particular person, you're not welcome. We know that you and k3kc are having some difficulties. Isn't it enough when you fought again him in geekhack an reddit? I think you're so childish.
// I've banned one of your account
Regards,
Post by: bueller on Sat, 18 October 2014, 21:26:02
Wouldn't want to join any forum where k3kc is welcomed, **** that guy.So we know with 100% accuracy who the guy is, but I wont post his info here. When I confronted them on their forum, they deleted my posts and put a 20 post requirement to post (LOL). So I made a new account (note the ID)...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/K5Fo6VX.jpg)
http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/keycap-laboratory.26.html
Hi Brocaps,
We are welcome you to vietnamese Mechanical Keyboard community. But if you join us to sabotage, gossip about a particular person, you're not welcome. We know that you and k3kc are having some difficulties. Isn't it enough when you fought again him in geekhack an reddit? I think you're so childish.
// I've banned one of your account
Regards,
Post by: tmk1207 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 21:31:05
Wouldn't want to join any forum where k3kc is welcomed, **** that guy.So we know with 100% accuracy who the guy is, but I wont post his info here. When I confronted them on their forum, they deleted my posts and put a 20 post requirement to post (LOL). So I made a new account (note the ID)...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/K5Fo6VX.jpg)
http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/keycap-laboratory.26.html
Hi Brocaps,
We are welcome you to vietnamese Mechanical Keyboard community. But if you join us to sabotage, gossip about a particular person, you're not welcome. We know that you and k3kc are having some difficulties. Isn't it enough when you fought again him in geekhack an reddit? I think you're so childish.
// I've banned one of your account
Regards,
I don't care. It's your choose. And i'm talking to Brocaps. Just keep sitting in your chair.
Thanks
Post by: Belfong on Sat, 18 October 2014, 21:32:07
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 18 October 2014, 21:34:22
Did the whole Viet Nam keyboard community just idolized and made k3kc a God?
Something like that. As far as I can tell they're in favor of it simply because it's cheaper. They seem to be ignoring the blatant drop in quality.
That's what I saw though, there's a pretty good chance I've missed something in the last 12 hours. That and my Vietnamese isn't nearly close to anything else I've got.
And honestly, if you're gonna look at it in just that aspect, I can see why. If you discount a moral compass, there's pretty much no reason to be opposed.
I still think that it's pretty lame that they're letting this guy do as he pleases.
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 21:37:02
Did the whole Viet Nam keyboard community just idolized and made k3kc a God?I don't know but I think its pretty ironic to say that brocaps is sabotaging their forum because he is pissed off at a counterfeiter who stole his work.
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 18 October 2014, 21:38:10
Did the whole Viet Nam keyboard community just idolized and made k3kc a God?I don't know but I think its pretty ironic to say that brocaps is sabotaging their forum because he is pissed off at a counterfeiter who stole his work.
In fairness to the Veitnam guys, he pretty much just went over there and **** all over everyone. Nothing constructive happened, just flame.
Post by: Michael on Sat, 18 October 2014, 21:38:30
So we know with 100% accuracy who the guy is, but I wont post his info here. When I confronted them on their forum, they deleted my posts and put a 20 post requirement to post (LOL). So I made a new account (note the ID)...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/K5Fo6VX.jpg)
http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/keycap-laboratory.26.html (http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/keycap-laboratory.26.html)
Hi Brocaps,
We are welcome you to vietnamese Mechanical Keyboard community. But if you join us to sabotage, gossip about a particular person, you're not welcome. We know that you and k3kc are having some difficulties. Isn't it enough when you fought again him in geekhack an reddit? I think you're so childish.
// I've banned one of your account
Regards,
So let me get this straight just so we are clear;
It's ok for you to endorse counterfeiting on your forum, but its not ok for me to complain about it? That's some rock-solid logic, right there.
What that actually tells me is this; you support him, and if anyone talks bad about him, you ban them. Right? Right!
It's ok, I will openly talk **** about megaxpop here, and just let him know, the reckoning is coming soon :)
-Bro
Post by: tmk1207 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 21:39:11
Did the whole Viet Nam keyboard community just idolized and made k3kc a God?
i see they like it because it's cheap. And easy buy it
Post by: mrdar206 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 21:40:55
Post by: lightsout714 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 21:42:03
So we know with 100% accuracy who the guy is, but I wont post his info here. When I confronted them on their forum, they deleted my posts and put a 20 post requirement to post (LOL). So I made a new account (note the ID)...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/K5Fo6VX.jpg)
http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/keycap-laboratory.26.html
Hi Brocaps,
We are welcome you to vietnamese Mechanical Keyboard community. But if you join us to sabotage, gossip about a particular person, you're not welcome. We know that you and k3kc are having some difficulties. Isn't it enough when you fought again him in geekhack an reddit? I think you're so childish.
// I've banned one of your account
Regards,
WHat does it take to get rid of undesireables around here?
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 18 October 2014, 21:43:44
Hi Brocaps,
We are welcome you to vietnamese Mechanical Keyboard community. But if you join us to sabotage, gossip about a particular person, you're not welcome. We know that you and k3kc are having some difficulties. Isn't it enough when you fought again him in geekhack an reddit? I think you're so childish.
// I've banned one of your account
Regards,
I didn't know calling out a counterfeiter constituted gossip. And "having difficulties" come on, he's ****ing stealing the work of another as part of a vendetta against Bro and to make a buck. Not only that, but he trolls GH and brags about his countetfeits in Bro and Clack's threads, randomly on GH, and on Reddit. Now who is childish? You know this isn't about anything but your own selfishness and willingness to support a criminal.
We have some awesome Vieynamese members, but between you, pmh, alixinhzai, and duck_nuct, you're putting your countrymen in a bad light, something that's unfair to them. Grow up and play by the rules, shiw you have integrity and honor.
Post by: trizkut on Sat, 18 October 2014, 21:43:50
Honestly, bring personal problem into all the topic on Geekhack and show other 's personal profile into other forum is childish and redicoulous.
Honestly, selling replicas of someone else's hard work out of spite is ridiculous and childish.
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 18 October 2014, 21:44:52
Did the whole Viet Nam keyboard community just idolized and made k3kc a God?
i see they like it because it's cheap. And easy buy it
Nice to see you, as a forum moderator and human, endorse theft. I think you need to be banned here with that attitude. Keep within your fakejerk.
Post by: tmk1207 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 21:45:37
So we know with 100% accuracy who the guy is, but I wont post his info here. When I confronted them on their forum, they deleted my posts and put a 20 post requirement to post (LOL). So I made a new account (note the ID)...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/K5Fo6VX.jpg)
http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/keycap-laboratory.26.html (http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/keycap-laboratory.26.html)
Hi Brocaps,
We are welcome you to vietnamese Mechanical Keyboard community. But if you join us to sabotage, gossip about a particular person, you're not welcome. We know that you and k3kc are having some difficulties. Isn't it enough when you fought again him in geekhack an reddit? I think you're so childish.
// I've banned one of your account
Regards,
So let me get this straight just so we are clear;
It's ok for you to endorse counterfeiting on your forum, but its not ok for me to complain about it? That's some rock-solid logic, right there.
What that actually tells me is this; you support him, and if anyone talks bad about him, you ban them. Right? Right!
It's ok, I will openly talk **** about megaxpop here, and just let him know, the reckoning is coming soon :)
-Bro
We are not defend for him, just clean up the forum. If we make clone and blame on all your post, what do you think about it. If you have your problem with him in reddit, geekhack, keep it in there. Don't bring your personal bull **** to our community.
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 18 October 2014, 21:47:24
So we know with 100% accuracy who the guy is, but I wont post his info here. When I confronted them on their forum, they deleted my posts and put a 20 post requirement to post (LOL). So I made a new account (note the ID)...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/K5Fo6VX.jpg)
http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/keycap-laboratory.26.html (http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/keycap-laboratory.26.html)
Hi Brocaps,
We are welcome you to vietnamese Mechanical Keyboard community. But if you join us to sabotage, gossip about a particular person, you're not welcome. We know that you and k3kc are having some difficulties. Isn't it enough when you fought again him in geekhack an reddit? I think you're so childish.
// I've banned one of your account
Regards,
So let me get this straight just so we are clear;
It's ok for you to endorse counterfeiting on your forum, but its not ok for me to complain about it? That's some rock-solid logic, right there.
What that actually tells me is this; you support him, and if anyone talks bad about him, you ban them. Right? Right!
It's ok, I will openly talk **** about megaxpop here, and just let him know, the reckoning is coming soon :)
-Bro
We are not defend for him, just clean up the forum. If we make clone and blame on all your post, what do you think about it. If you have your problem with him in reddit, geekhack, keep it in there. Don't bring your personal bull **** to our community.
Then stay there if you can't handle someone defending his creator's rights. Shoo. Back to your fakejerk
Post by: Belfong on Sat, 18 October 2014, 21:49:20
Sure they like it. Doesn't mean you have to agree. You are a mod and the guy who run the forum. At least have some integrity and honor, for goodness sake. By giving him a sub forum just encourages this further. That does not instill a lot of confidence and trust in your community.Did the whole Viet Nam keyboard community just idolized and made k3kc a God?
i see they like it because it's cheap. And easy buy it
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 18 October 2014, 21:54:25
We are not defend for him, just clean up the forum. If we make clone and blame on all your post, what do you think about it. If you have your problem with him in reddit, geekhack, keep it in there. Don't bring your personal bull **** to our community.
That's like saying you don't defend an art thief, you just wipe away his fingerprints and delete the security footage.
And K3 is waving the "personal bull****" all over your site. How is it he's exempt? Oh, that's right, you're hypocrites.
Post by: tmk1207 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 22:03:17
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 18 October 2014, 22:04:22
@all: We don't have the respondibility for vendor personal business. :(
Then why are you banning one for his personal business while supporting the other?
Shoo.
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 18 October 2014, 22:08:20
@all: We don't have the respondibility for vendor personal business. :(
That defense worked great at the Nuremberg trials.
Non-Godwin, it's great to see that you have ethics. So few people have ethics these days.
Post by: tmk1207 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 22:24:55
@all: We don't have the respondibility for vendor personal business. :(
Then why are you banning one for his personal business while supporting the other?
Shoo.
The vendor obey the vietnamese law. We don't have the permission to ban them until the lawcourt send the document about stopping business. Brocap bring the personal information of an member and bullying on our community forum . That attitude is unacceptable and need to be banned.
I'm so sorry if our decision made you guys mad. But the situation between brocap and K3 should be solved personally. We aren't accept it public on our community forum
-le dung.
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 18 October 2014, 22:28:14
@all: We don't have the respondibility for vendor personal business. :(
Then why are you banning one for his personal business while supporting the other?
Shoo.
The vendor obey the vietnamese law. We don't have the permission to ban them until the lawcourt send the document about stopping business. Brocap bring the personal information of an member and bullying on our community forum . That attitude is unacceptable and need to be banned.
I'm so sorry if our decision made you guys mad. But the situation between brocap and K3 should be solved personally. We aren't accept it public on our community forum
-le dung.
What a crock of ****. You have to have legal documents to ban someone in vietnam? And that there are no copyright/IP law enforcement in Vietnam? Whatever. Keep grasping at your lies, just do it there and not here.
I'm normally not one to say this, but I'd be surprised if the active people here wanted to see your contributions, meager as they might be, here anymore.
Post by: strict on Sat, 18 October 2014, 22:33:36
The vendor obey the vietnamese law. We don't have the permission to ban them until the lawcourt send the document about stopping business. Brocap bring the personal information of an member and bullying on our community forum . That attitude is unacceptable and need to be banned.
I'm so sorry if our decision made you guys mad. But the situation between brocap and K3 should be solved personally. We aren't accept it public on our community forum
-le dung.
lol @ you dont have permission to ban him because hes not breaking the law. You know damn well you could ban him at any time for any reason, but you don't want to because you like what he's doing and you like being able to get his ****ty faux-clacks.
As many others have said, buzz-off back to your **** hole. You and your comrades supporting this clown will never be welcome here.
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sat, 18 October 2014, 22:34:21
Hi Brocaps,
We are welcome you to vietnamese Mechanical Keyboard community. But if you join us to sabotage, gossip about a particular person, you're not welcome. We know that you and k3kc are having some difficulties. Isn't it enough when you fought again him in geekhack an reddit? I think you're so childish.
// I've banned one of your account
Regards,
Your logic is just more fvcked up than pmh.
We are not defend for him, just clean up the forum. If we make clone and blame on all your post, what do you think about it. If you have your problem with him in reddit, geekhack, keep it in there. Don't bring your personal bull **** to our community.
The first thing you need to clean up is k3's subforum. Don't you get it? This is not personal issue between Bro Caps and k3. Your fvcked up community supports counterfeit so now it's an issue between Bro Caps/clickclack and your community also.
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 18 October 2014, 22:38:44
The vendor obey the vietnamese law. We don't have the permission to ban them until the lawcourt send the document about stopping business. Brocap bring the personal information of an member and bullying on our community forum . That attitude is unacceptable and need to be banned.
I'm so sorry if our decision made you guys mad. But the situation between brocap and K3 should be solved personally. We aren't accept it public on our community forum
-le dung.
tl;dr We like getting it for cheap and don't have ethics or a moral compass, so we won't ban them unless we absolutely have to, but we will ban the creator of the IP for calling out a thief.
You don't need a court order to know this is wrong or against the law. **** like this wouldn't fly on OTD, KBDMania, Deskthority, or KeyboardTalking. If you want people to actually be willing to work with Vietnamese members on here, you can't support **** like this.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sat, 18 October 2014, 22:40:06
Post by: Michael on Sat, 18 October 2014, 22:49:14
So we know with 100% accuracy who the guy is, but I wont post his info here. When I confronted them on their forum, they deleted my posts and put a 20 post requirement to post (LOL). So I made a new account (note the ID)...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/K5Fo6VX.jpg)
http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/keycap-laboratory.26.html (http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/keycap-laboratory.26.html)
Hi Brocaps,
We are welcome you to vietnamese Mechanical Keyboard community. But if you join us to sabotage, gossip about a particular person, you're not welcome. We know that you and k3kc are having some difficulties. Isn't it enough when you fought again him in geekhack an reddit? I think you're so childish.
// I've banned one of your account
Regards,
So let me get this straight just so we are clear;
It's ok for you to endorse counterfeiting on your forum, but its not ok for me to complain about it? That's some rock-solid logic, right there.
What that actually tells me is this; you support him, and if anyone talks bad about him, you ban them. Right? Right!
It's ok, I will openly talk **** about megaxpop here, and just let him know, the reckoning is coming soon :)
-Bro
We are not defend for him, just clean up the forum. If we make clone and blame on all your post, what do you think about it. If you have your problem with him in reddit, geekhack, keep it in there. Don't bring your personal bull **** to our community.
Oooo... I think I hit a nerve. Maybe it's guilt? Nah... a lack of morality forbids that.
Anyways, as long as your friend continues his escapades, you can count on me doing what I need to do. K?
^_________^
Love,
Bro
Post by: MiTo on Sat, 18 October 2014, 23:03:44
There's quite simple a way, from my perspective, to solve this.
Just let the vietnamese people support this idiot, Bro. You'll never be able to control what's happening on their forums, so just let them rot there. He won't get too far because he's just dumb. Let him earn his few bucks with his crap and just keep doing your good stuff. I know it's not easy to see something that's your creation to be openly counterfeited, but could you imagine how crazy would be if Louis Vitton suddenly decided to end all of the counterfeits there are out there? That's just impossible. You don't seem to need more marketing but his fakes are indeed bringing some extra attention to you, and that's a something positive you could take out of this situation.
Their trolling, flaming and bragging, just ignore it. They're too small and stupid.
Ignore it and take advantage of something that this retarded missed - the current market expansion. Improve your awesome work and everything should be fine. He'll eventually vanish and remain as a joke.
EDIT: I was about to PM this to Bro himself, but then I decided to share because I think we all should just ignore them from this point and beyond.
Post by: Michael on Sat, 18 October 2014, 23:08:34
I'm absolutely nobody here, and I shouldn't be telling elders what to do, but seriously?
There's quite simple a way, from my perspective, to solve this.
Just let the vietnamese people support this idiot, Bro. You'll never be able to control what's happening on their forums, so just let them rot there. He won't get too far because he's just dumb. Let him earn his few bucks with his crap and just keep doing your good stuff. I know it's not easy to see something that's your creation to be openly counterfeited, but could you imagine how crazy would be if Louis Vitton suddenly decided to end all of the counterfeits there are out there? That's just impossible. You don't seem to need more marketing but his fakes are indeed bringing some extra attention to you, and that's a something positive you could take out of this situation.
Their trolling, flaming and bragging, just ignore it. They're too small and stupid.
Ignore it and take advantage of something that this retarded missed - the current market expansion. Improve your awesome work and everything should be fine. He'll eventually vanish and remain as a joke.
EDIT: I was about to PM this to Bro himself, but then I decided to share because I think we all should just ignore them from this point and beyond.
You are certainly not the person to be giving advice on how to act to anyone, but there are other threads for that.
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 18 October 2014, 23:21:37
KBtalking kept drugER and his crew around for longer than any other forum, just thought you'd like to know that.
They're not banning him because he hasn't broken their TOS, therefore there's no reason to ban him. K3 HAS broken GH's TOS, so that's why he's banned here, and also why the Vietnamese need a document saying he's infringing IP. This is something only Bro and CC can take care of. Flaming each other will not solve this problem. Chill the **** out. Pretty much all of the Vietnamese members are innocent. This includes PMH (as far as I can tell he's done nothing overly wrong other than get gifted a few of these).
There's also been a bit of a miscommunication. The Vietnamese aren't "praising" K3's work. They like his prices, and they're just kind of letting him stay around. Bro made an account and immedeately started flaming. This is a violation of their rules. When you combine this fact with the (very public) motive behind the posts, you get a banned, angry bro caps, who is left out of the know.
If a few members of GH suddenly started buying a fake KMAC, or a Duck Poker clone, then went to the Korean forums to justify it (in Korean) there would probably be a lot more harm done than intended. That's essentially what's happening here. Speaking of things members of GH are doing that they really shouldn't, stop flaming every Vietnamese member you see. It's pretty infuriating to me, and probably a few more people that they don't even get a say in the matter, because apparently they're all somehow involved.
Now, the real question I have for all of you: Will you keep extending this so it becomes an even more overblown problem than it already is, or will you let the people who are actually involved sort it out quietly?
Food for thought. I'm against the counterfeits, but I'm also feeling some negative things about how some GH members are reacting to this whole situation. It's a giant ****fest from everyone's side, though. No more from them than from us.
Thanks,
-TS
I'm absolutely nobody here, and I shouldn't be telling elders what to do, but seriously?
There's quite simple a way, from my perspective, to solve this.
Just let the vietnamese people support this idiot, Bro. You'll never be able to control what's happening on their forums, so just let them rot there. He won't get too far because he's just dumb. Let him earn his few bucks with his crap and just keep doing your good stuff. I know it's not easy to see something that's your creation to be openly counterfeited, but could you imagine how crazy would be if Louis Vitton suddenly decided to end all of the counterfeits there are out there? That's just impossible. You don't seem to need more marketing but his fakes are indeed bringing some extra attention to you, and that's a something positive you could take out of this situation.
Their trolling, flaming and bragging, just ignore it. They're too small and stupid.
Ignore it and take advantage of something that this retarded missed - the current market expansion. Improve your awesome work and everything should be fine. He'll eventually vanish and remain as a joke.
EDIT: I was about to PM this to Bro himself, but then I decided to share because I think we all should just ignore them from this point and beyond.
If this post was from anyone but you, Mito, people would actually listen to what you had to say. It's a bit disappointing to me, especially since I agree with you again.
Post by: hwood34 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 23:24:29
I'm making another dumb post, this is my personal opinion, and not that of the GH staff, blah blah blah, I should probably just ignore this thread for the rest of time so that I don't get in trouble with the people higher up than me on staff. I just like to put my opinion out there.+1
KBtalking kept drugER and his crew around for longer than any other forum, just thought you'd like to know that.
They're not banning him because he hasn't broken their TOS, therefore there's no reason to ban him. K3 HAS broken GH's TOS, so that's why he's banned here, and also why the Vietnamese need a document saying he's infringing IP. This is something only Bro and CC can take care of. Flaming each other will not solve this problem. Chill the **** out. Pretty much all of the Vietnamese members are innocent. This includes PMH (as far as I can tell he's done nothing overly wrong other than get gifted a few of these).
There's also been a bit of a miscommunication. The Vietnamese aren't "praising" K3's work. They like his prices, and they're just kind of letting him stay around. Bro made an account and immedeately started flaming. This is a violation of their rules. When you combine this fact with the (very public) motive behind the posts, you get a banned, angry bro caps, who is left out of the know.
If a few members of GH suddenly started buying a fake KMAC, or a Duck Poker clone, then went to the Korean forums to justify it (in Korean) there would probably be a lot more harm done than intended. That's essentially what's happening here. Speaking of things members of GH are doing that they really shouldn't, stop flaming every Vietnamese member you see. It's pretty infuriating to me, and probably a few more people that they don't even get a say in the matter, because apparently they're all somehow involved.
Now, the real question I have for all of you: Will you keep extending this so it becomes an even more overblown problem than it already is, or will you let the people who are actually involved sort it out quietly?
Food for thought. I'm against the counterfeits, but I'm also feeling some negative things about how some GH members are reacting to this whole situation. It's a giant ****fest from everyone's side, though. No more from them than from us.
Thanks,
-TSI'm absolutely nobody here, and I shouldn't be telling elders what to do, but seriously?
There's quite simple a way, from my perspective, to solve this.
Just let the vietnamese people support this idiot, Bro. You'll never be able to control what's happening on their forums, so just let them rot there. He won't get too far because he's just dumb. Let him earn his few bucks with his crap and just keep doing your good stuff. I know it's not easy to see something that's your creation to be openly counterfeited, but could you imagine how crazy would be if Louis Vitton suddenly decided to end all of the counterfeits there are out there? That's just impossible. You don't seem to need more marketing but his fakes are indeed bringing some extra attention to you, and that's a something positive you could take out of this situation.
Their trolling, flaming and bragging, just ignore it. They're too small and stupid.
Ignore it and take advantage of something that this retarded missed - the current market expansion. Improve your awesome work and everything should be fine. He'll eventually vanish and remain as a joke.
EDIT: I was about to PM this to Bro himself, but then I decided to share because I think we all should just ignore them from this point and beyond.
If this post was from anyone but you, Mito, people would actually listen to what you had to say. It's a bit disappointing to me, especially since I agree with you again.
Post by: MiTo on Sat, 18 October 2014, 23:24:58
You are certainly not the person to be giving advice on how to act to anyone, but there are other threads for that.
I don't completely understand your sentece and the final part sounded kinda aggressive to me, I'm not entirely sure about what you meant but that's ok though. I tried to give you a piece of advice because this entire situation won't take you anywhere.
Regardless, I'm quitting this thread because I already wasted too many words and time with this situation.
Post by: MiTo on Sat, 18 October 2014, 23:30:31
If this post was from anyone but you, Mito, people would actually listen to what you had to say. It's a bit disappointing to me, especially since I agree with
you again.
I agree with you too, this has gone way to far.
Unfortunately my reputation here is kinda damaged because of some wrong statements I made, but I hope that this advice helps, somehow.
Peace out.
Post by: demik on Sat, 18 October 2014, 23:37:00
Post by: Michael on Sat, 18 October 2014, 23:38:51
You are certainly not the person to be giving advice on how to act to anyone, but there are other threads for that.
I don't completely understand your sentece and the final part sounded kinda aggressive to me, I'm not entirely sure about what you meant but that's ok though. I tried to give you a piece of advice because this entire situation won't take you anywhere.
Regardless, I'm quitting this thread because I already wasted too many words and time with this situation.
Your ego is so bloated, I am surprised you haven't popped and flown away. Don't act like you have been here forever, or that you are somehow the voice of wisdom... seriously, dude. Step back, and remove yourself from the topic.
I may run a business, but I am also a member here as much as anyone, and if I want to speak my mind about something that affect me personally, I will. Of course, I won't go overboard like you have in so many posts, but I will attempt to satisfy my point as maturely as I can (sometimes I am kind of drunk, and my tongue gets the better of me, im sorry).
Post by: strict on Sat, 18 October 2014, 23:41:00
I'm absolutely nobody here, and I shouldn't be telling elders what to do, but seriously?
There's quite simple a way, from my perspective, to solve this.
Just let the vietnamese people support this idiot, Bro. You'll never be able to control what's happening on their forums, so just let them rot there. He won't get too far because he's just dumb. Let him earn his few bucks with his crap and just keep doing your good stuff. I know it's not easy to see something that's your creation to be openly counterfeited, but could you imagine how crazy would be if Louis Vitton suddenly decided to end all of the counterfeits there are out there? That's just impossible. You don't seem to need more marketing but his fakes are indeed bringing some extra attention to you, and that's a something positive you could take out of this situation.
Their trolling, flaming and bragging, just ignore it. They're too small and stupid.
Ignore it and take advantage of something that this retarded missed - the current market expansion. Improve your awesome work and everything should be fine. He'll eventually vanish and remain as a joke.
EDIT: I was about to PM this to Bro himself, but then I decided to share because I think we all should just ignore them from this point and beyond.
IMO inaction is almost as bad as condoning it. Inaction says to the future counterfeiters that you wont do anything to stop them just like you didn't do anything to stop the current counterfeiter. Not only that, but you would start to get these fake keys poisoning the marketplace and sullying Bro's name and reputation for quality. For example, some cloned key is put up for sale by someone who got duped or didn't care and then an unsuspecting newbie scoops up it thinking he's getting a great deal. He gets the box and unwraps a pile of **** then swears off all of Bro's products thinking he makes trash.
BTW, Louis Vuitton does actively pursue counterfeiters, although its a little different due to how copyrights and trademarks work in the fashion industry. You can copyright a logo but not a design, which is why you see knock-offs that look just like the real thing except with stuff like "LN" on the side instead of "LV".
Post by: keyton on Sun, 19 October 2014, 01:40:52
Post by: henz on Sun, 19 October 2014, 01:58:21
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 19 October 2014, 02:02:34
I heard a funny story a while ago. People around Asia buys fake things in order to sustain the western lifestyle , fake phone, fake bag, fake everything that is expensive. But when they do get money, they start buying the real deal and brag about it. Companies like Apple for example complains alot on counterfeits but do nothing about it. Because it benefits them in the long run.
That may be so, but when you're talking about small production runs that are limited due to manufacturing methods, that flys out the window. That's like saying a counterfeit Katharina Fritsch increases the value of her work since more people are likely to buy her work when they can afford it. It's just not true because she doesn't have a high production rate. That sort of thing only works for manufacturers who can meet demand and whose demand does not greatly outstrip their supply at any price point.
Post by: bazh on Sun, 19 October 2014, 02:13:41
Time to ban all Vietnamese IP addresses.
Wut dude
Post by: epzy on Sun, 19 October 2014, 02:15:30
Time to ban all Vietnamese IP addresses.
Wut dude
don't mind him, he's just a terribad troll
Post by: yasuo on Sun, 19 October 2014, 02:15:56
Time to ban all Vietnamese IP addresses.bro from vietnam too i think
Post by: baldgye on Sun, 19 October 2014, 02:35:14
I'm making another dumb post, this is my personal opinion, and not that of the GH staff, blah blah blah, I should probably just ignore this thread for the rest of time so that I don't get in trouble with the people higher up than me on staff. I just like to put my opinion out there.
KBtalking kept drugER and his crew around for longer than any other forum, just thought you'd like to know that.
They're not banning him because he hasn't broken their TOS, therefore there's no reason to ban him. K3 HAS broken GH's TOS, so that's why he's banned here, and also why the Vietnamese need a document saying he's infringing IP. This is something only Bro and CC can take care of. Flaming each other will not solve this problem. Chill the **** out. Pretty much all of the Vietnamese members are innocent. This includes PMH (as far as I can tell he's done nothing overly wrong other than get gifted a few of these).
There's also been a bit of a miscommunication. The Vietnamese aren't "praising" K3's work. They like his prices, and they're just kind of letting him stay around. Bro made an account and immedeately started flaming. This is a violation of their rules. When you combine this fact with the (very public) motive behind the posts, you get a banned, angry bro caps, who is left out of the know.
If a few members of GH suddenly started buying a fake KMAC, or a Duck Poker clone, then went to the Korean forums to justify it (in Korean) there would probably be a lot more harm done than intended. That's essentially what's happening here. Speaking of things members of GH are doing that they really shouldn't, stop flaming every Vietnamese member you see. It's pretty infuriating to me, and probably a few more people that they don't even get a say in the matter, because apparently they're all somehow involved.
Now, the real question I have for all of you: Will you keep extending this so it becomes an even more overblown problem than it already is, or will you let the people who are actually involved sort it out quietly?
Food for thought. I'm against the counterfeits, but I'm also feeling some negative things about how some GH members are reacting to this whole situation. It's a giant ****fest from everyone's side, though. No more from them than from us.
Thanks,
-TSI'm absolutely nobody here, and I shouldn't be telling elders what to do, but seriously?
There's quite simple a way, from my perspective, to solve this.
Just let the vietnamese people support this idiot, Bro. You'll never be able to control what's happening on their forums, so just let them rot there. He won't get too far because he's just dumb. Let him earn his few bucks with his crap and just keep doing your good stuff. I know it's not easy to see something that's your creation to be openly counterfeited, but could you imagine how crazy would be if Louis Vitton suddenly decided to end all of the counterfeits there are out there? That's just impossible. You don't seem to need more marketing but his fakes are indeed bringing some extra attention to you, and that's a something positive you could take out of this situation.
Their trolling, flaming and bragging, just ignore it. They're too small and stupid.
Ignore it and take advantage of something that this retarded missed - the current market expansion. Improve your awesome work and everything should be fine. He'll eventually vanish and remain as a joke.
EDIT: I was about to PM this to Bro himself, but then I decided to share because I think we all should just ignore them from this point and beyond.
If this post was from anyone but you, Mito, people would actually listen to what you had to say. It's a bit disappointing to me, especially since I agree with you again.
'Bards' are now members of staff?
Also it's pretty bizzare to defend the actions of a group that supports counterfits because doing so dosnt go against there own made up random set of rules...
Post by: pichu23 on Sun, 19 October 2014, 03:33:26
I heard a funny story a while ago. People around Asia buys fake things in order to sustain the western lifestyle , fake phone, fake bag, fake everything that is expensive. But when they do get money, they start buying the real deal and brag about it. Companies like Apple for example complains alot on counterfeits but do nothing about it. Because it benefits them in the long run.
Not all Asians. I'd rather not carry anything than to carry a fake purse or smth. :rolleyes:
Post by: demik on Sun, 19 October 2014, 03:43:34
I'm making another dumb post, this is my personal opinion, and not that of the GH staff, blah blah blah, I should probably just ignore this thread for the rest of time so that I don't get in trouble with the people higher up than me on staff. I just like to put my opinion out there.
KBtalking kept drugER and his crew around for longer than any other forum, just thought you'd like to know that.
They're not banning him because he hasn't broken their TOS, therefore there's no reason to ban him. K3 HAS broken GH's TOS, so that's why he's banned here, and also why the Vietnamese need a document saying he's infringing IP. This is something only Bro and CC can take care of. Flaming each other will not solve this problem. Chill the **** out. Pretty much all of the Vietnamese members are innocent. This includes PMH (as far as I can tell he's done nothing overly wrong other than get gifted a few of these).
There's also been a bit of a miscommunication. The Vietnamese aren't "praising" K3's work. They like his prices, and they're just kind of letting him stay around. Bro made an account and immedeately started flaming. This is a violation of their rules. When you combine this fact with the (very public) motive behind the posts, you get a banned, angry bro caps, who is left out of the know.
If a few members of GH suddenly started buying a fake KMAC, or a Duck Poker clone, then went to the Korean forums to justify it (in Korean) there would probably be a lot more harm done than intended. That's essentially what's happening here. Speaking of things members of GH are doing that they really shouldn't, stop flaming every Vietnamese member you see. It's pretty infuriating to me, and probably a few more people that they don't even get a say in the matter, because apparently they're all somehow involved.
Now, the real question I have for all of you: Will you keep extending this so it becomes an even more overblown problem than it already is, or will you let the people who are actually involved sort it out quietly?
Food for thought. I'm against the counterfeits, but I'm also feeling some negative things about how some GH members are reacting to this whole situation. It's a giant ****fest from everyone's side, though. No more from them than from us.
Thanks,
-TSI'm absolutely nobody here, and I shouldn't be telling elders what to do, but seriously?
There's quite simple a way, from my perspective, to solve this.
Just let the vietnamese people support this idiot, Bro. You'll never be able to control what's happening on their forums, so just let them rot there. He won't get too far because he's just dumb. Let him earn his few bucks with his crap and just keep doing your good stuff. I know it's not easy to see something that's your creation to be openly counterfeited, but could you imagine how crazy would be if Louis Vitton suddenly decided to end all of the counterfeits there are out there? That's just impossible. You don't seem to need more marketing but his fakes are indeed bringing some extra attention to you, and that's a something positive you could take out of this situation.
Their trolling, flaming and bragging, just ignore it. They're too small and stupid.
Ignore it and take advantage of something that this retarded missed - the current market expansion. Improve your awesome work and everything should be fine. He'll eventually vanish and remain as a joke.
EDIT: I was about to PM this to Bro himself, but then I decided to share because I think we all should just ignore them from this point and beyond.
If this post was from anyone but you, Mito, people would actually listen to what you had to say. It's a bit disappointing to me, especially since I agree with you again.
'Bards' are now members of staff?
Also it's pretty bizzare to defend the actions of a group that supports counterfits because doing so dosnt go against there own made up random set of rules...
lol right? ****ing welcome squad is staff now
Post by: limitz on Sun, 19 October 2014, 04:00:44
I heard a funny story a while ago. People around Asia buys fake things in order to sustain the western lifestyle , fake phone, fake bag, fake everything that is expensive. But when they do get money, they start buying the real deal and brag about it. Companies like Apple for example complains alot on counterfeits but do nothing about it. Because it benefits them in the long run.
Time to ban all Vietnamese IP addresses.
These generalization are ridiculous. If by "People around Asia" you mean most major US cities then yeah.
I can easily get fakes in a lot of places where I live.
Post by: JackMills on Sun, 19 October 2014, 04:04:55
Post by: henz on Sun, 19 October 2014, 04:07:18
I heard a funny story a while ago. People around Asia buys fake things in order to sustain the western lifestyle , fake phone, fake bag, fake everything that is expensive. But when they do get money, they start buying the real deal and brag about it. Companies like Apple for example complains alot on counterfeits but do nothing about it. Because it benefits them in the long run.
Not all Asians. I'd rather not carry anything than to carry a fake purse or smth. :rolleyes:
Not saying all asians. There a bunch of westerners who go to china just to buy a bunch of PS games and movie dvds etc.
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 19 October 2014, 09:10:40
Not all Asians. I'd rather not carry anything than to carry a fake purse or smth. :rolleyes:I am in the same boat as you do. I rather be carrying unbranded stuff than a fake one. People can just see through me. Same with games or apps. I rather play indie games which I can afford or wait for those AAA titles to go on sale during Steam Winter sales. Otherwise, there are a lot of other games to keep me company, not that I have a lot of time. There's just too many legit things around that are cheap these days, I don't have to go with counterfeit stuff.
Post by: henz on Sun, 19 October 2014, 09:24:44
Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 19 October 2014, 14:02:47
Honestly, bring personal problem into all the topic on Geekhack and show other 's personal profile into other forum is childish and redicoulous.Then call me childish as well, I love your little collection of fake click clacks brooo
http://vietnammechkey.com/threads/show-goc-chien-luoc-3.86.html
http://vietnammechkey.com/threads/post-your-k3kc-xoxoxoxo.80.html
http://vietnammechkey.com/threads/custom-keyboard-anh-em-co-hang-thi-vao-nhe.15.html
Post by: bazh on Sun, 19 October 2014, 14:23:50
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Post your k3kc keycaps here. Feel free because this is Vietnamese place. Any OT act will be banned
:)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :))
Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 19 October 2014, 14:24:57
Post by: whentheclouds on Sun, 19 October 2014, 14:26:45
Post by: bazh on Sun, 19 October 2014, 14:35:44
Post by: pichu23 on Sun, 19 October 2014, 16:13:35
I heard a funny story a while ago. People around Asia buys fake things in order to sustain the western lifestyle , fake phone, fake bag, fake everything that is expensive. But when they do get money, they start buying the real deal and brag about it. Companies like Apple for example complains alot on counterfeits but do nothing about it. Because it benefits them in the long run.
Not all Asians. I'd rather not carry anything than to carry a fake purse or smth. :rolleyes:
Not saying all asians. There a bunch of westerners who go to china just to buy a bunch of PS games and movie dvds etc.
Yeah, no worries buddy. Just an example ;D
Post by: calvinhousecat on Sun, 19 October 2014, 23:05:28
(http://i.imgur.com/YUVfxFv.gif)
Post by: demik on Sun, 19 October 2014, 23:06:33
Blows my mind that k3kc has the potential and supplies to make really good keycaps of his own, but just decides to copy peopleShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/YUVfxFv.gif)
he's a lazy mother****er. and **** that vietnamese forum. it makes my people look bad.
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 19 October 2014, 23:12:36
Blows my mind that k3kc has the potential and supplies to make really good keycaps of his own, but just decides to copy peopleShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/YUVfxFv.gif)
he's a lazy mother****er. and **** that vietnamese forum. it makes my people look bad.
Your honorary people, you mean.
Post by: demik on Sun, 19 October 2014, 23:16:19
Blows my mind that k3kc has the potential and supplies to make really good keycaps of his own, but just decides to copy peopleShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/YUVfxFv.gif)
he's a lazy mother****er. and **** that vietnamese forum. it makes my people look bad.
Your honorary people, you mean.
they're honored to have me, yes.
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 19 October 2014, 23:30:35
Blows my mind that k3kc has the potential and supplies to make really good keycaps of his own, but just decides to copy peopleShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/YUVfxFv.gif)
he's a lazy mother****er. and **** that vietnamese forum. it makes my people look bad.
Your honorary people, you mean.
they're honored to have me, yes.
demik 1 post way from 10,000.
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 19 October 2014, 23:36:54
Blows my mind that k3kc has the potential and supplies to make really good keycaps of his own, but just decides to copy peopleShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/YUVfxFv.gif)
he's a lazy mother****er. and **** that vietnamese forum. it makes my people look bad.
Your honorary people, you mean.
they're honored to have me, yes.
demik 1 post way from 10,000.
Meaning the exact right number to be banned at.
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 19 October 2014, 23:38:49
he's a lazy mother****er. and **** that vietnamese forum. it makes my people look bad.
Your honorary people, you mean.
they're honored to have me, yes.
demik 1 post way from 10,000.
Meaning the exact right number to be banned at.
:))
Post by: mrdar206 on Mon, 20 October 2014, 03:55:58
I know you would love it, broooo :))Honestly, bring personal problem into all the topic on Geekhack and show other 's personal profile into other forum is childish and redicoulous.Then call me childish as well, I love your little collection of fake click clacks brooo
http://vietnammechkey.com/threads/show-goc-chien-luoc-3.86.html
http://vietnammechkey.com/threads/post-your-k3kc-xoxoxoxo.80.html
http://vietnammechkey.com/threads/custom-keyboard-anh-em-co-hang-thi-vao-nhe.15.html
Post by: whentheclouds on Mon, 20 October 2014, 05:23:57
as a quasi-Vietnamese (i say that, tongue somewhat in cheek because i've spent a large portion of my life overseas, and my command of the language is very weak), i'm not impressed by the conduct of some of my fellow countrymen on this forum, especially those who are long time members and have been fortunate enough to acquire CCs/BBs. maybe they view artisan caps more as products/commodities than anything, and i can't comment on that because there's no objective way to gauge it. i'll try to explain the mindset behind this by illustrating how people perceive video games. when i was way younger, the price of a game CD was around 50 cents, and even that was enough for a very satisfying breakfast. things are now much better than 10-15 years ago, but the country itself is still relatively poor. genuine games are sold at a price similar to western retail prices, and although there are buyers, plenty of people still buy pirated games for $2-$3 or just torrent them (at least torrenting doesn't support the disk sellers). for a generation, this notion of acquiring things we want for a we can afford is so deeply ingrained into our mentality, it's not a simple matter of pointing out 'that's wrong' and expecting change, and i don't see it changing in the foreseeable future, especially when the average annual income is still only something like $2000 (i'm sure those who can afford mechs are much better off, but my point stands)
i didn't touch upon the whole morality debate, but it's fairly evident that Vietnamese possess rather ..sketchy morals, blatant disregard for intellectual properties aside. the country is plagued by so many issues within all classes of society, it's a huge deterrent to me returning here. and this is not some sort of 'i live aboard so i'm better than you' humblebrag, these issues are all visible to anyone who spends more than a day in the country. if you recall, the people behind that infamous 60% aluminum case GB were ..surprise, Vietnamese. reading that thread in its entirety was like seeing two cars run full speed into each other: you know exactly how the crash will occur, but you're still amazed at the magnitude of the explosion. even down to the 'excuse' he used for not replying to a single forum post/PM despite having the balls to log on the site every single day, very Vietnamese-esque. and the comment bahz posted earlier.. just lmao. standard nationalistic behavior
p.s. this isn't a Vietnam-bashing post even if it comes off that way, simply because i'm not a very magniloquent poster. i'm just offering some insight into how Vietnamese view intellectual property, and why it is hard to uproot this wrong mentality
Post by: Belfong on Mon, 20 October 2014, 05:37:03
Post by: whentheclouds on Mon, 20 October 2014, 05:45:23
Post by: Belfong on Mon, 20 October 2014, 05:50:48
Post by: whentheclouds on Mon, 20 October 2014, 06:04:31
Post by: appleonama on Mon, 20 October 2014, 07:01:10
@all: We don't have the respondibility for vendor personal business. :(
Then why are you banning one for his personal business while supporting the other?
Shoo.
The vendor obey the vietnamese law. We don't have the permission to ban them until the lawcourt send the document about stopping business. Brocap bring the personal information of an member and bullying on our community forum . That attitude is unacceptable and need to be banned.
I'm so sorry if our decision made you guys mad. But the situation between brocap and K3 should be solved personally. We aren't accept it public on our community forum
-le dung.
What a crock of ****. You have to have legal documents to ban someone in vietnam? And that there are no copyright/IP law enforcement in Vietnam? Whatever. Keep grasping at your lies, just do it there and not here.
I'm normally not one to say this, but I'd be surprised if the active people here wanted to see your contributions, meager as they might be, here anymore.
Sorry
I know I have nothing to do with this, but this is entertaining the viet guy is just aiming the gun at himself.
(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142124/3898460-8864152835-)
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 20 October 2014, 09:18:23
I'm making another dumb post, this is my personal opinion, and not that of the GH staff, blah blah blah, I should probably just ignore this thread for the rest of time so that I don't get in trouble with the people higher up than me on staff. I just like to put my opinion out there.
KBtalking kept drugER and his crew around for longer than any other forum, just thought you'd like to know that.
They're not banning him because he hasn't broken their TOS, therefore there's no reason to ban him. K3 HAS broken GH's TOS, so that's why he's banned here, and also why the Vietnamese need a document saying he's infringing IP. This is something only Bro and CC can take care of. Flaming each other will not solve this problem. Chill the **** out. Pretty much all of the Vietnamese members are innocent. This includes PMH (as far as I can tell he's done nothing overly wrong other than get gifted a few of these).
There's also been a bit of a miscommunication. The Vietnamese aren't "praising" K3's work. They like his prices, and they're just kind of letting him stay around. Bro made an account and immedeately started flaming. This is a violation of their rules. When you combine this fact with the (very public) motive behind the posts, you get a banned, angry bro caps, who is left out of the know.
If a few members of GH suddenly started buying a fake KMAC, or a Duck Poker clone, then went to the Korean forums to justify it (in Korean) there would probably be a lot more harm done than intended. That's essentially what's happening here. Speaking of things members of GH are doing that they really shouldn't, stop flaming every Vietnamese member you see. It's pretty infuriating to me, and probably a few more people that they don't even get a say in the matter, because apparently they're all somehow involved.
Now, the real question I have for all of you: Will you keep extending this so it becomes an even more overblown problem than it already is, or will you let the people who are actually involved sort it out quietly?
Food for thought. I'm against the counterfeits, but I'm also feeling some negative things about how some GH members are reacting to this whole situation. It's a giant ****fest from everyone's side, though. No more from them than from us.
Thanks,
-TSI'm absolutely nobody here, and I shouldn't be telling elders what to do, but seriously?
There's quite simple a way, from my perspective, to solve this.
Just let the vietnamese people support this idiot, Bro. You'll never be able to control what's happening on their forums, so just let them rot there. He won't get too far because he's just dumb. Let him earn his few bucks with his crap and just keep doing your good stuff. I know it's not easy to see something that's your creation to be openly counterfeited, but could you imagine how crazy would be if Louis Vitton suddenly decided to end all of the counterfeits there are out there? That's just impossible. You don't seem to need more marketing but his fakes are indeed bringing some extra attention to you, and that's a something positive you could take out of this situation.
Their trolling, flaming and bragging, just ignore it. They're too small and stupid.
Ignore it and take advantage of something that this retarded missed - the current market expansion. Improve your awesome work and everything should be fine. He'll eventually vanish and remain as a joke.
EDIT: I was about to PM this to Bro himself, but then I decided to share because I think we all should just ignore them from this point and beyond.
If this post was from anyone but you, Mito, people would actually listen to what you had to say. It's a bit disappointing to me, especially since I agree with you again.
My opinion aswell .
You're making a foold of yourself Bro Caps . Clashs on public threads aren't the best way to handle it .
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 20 October 2014, 10:34:32
+1 to TacticalStache and MiTo.
Post by: keyton on Tue, 28 October 2014, 13:40:34
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2kh15s/amethyst_so_close/
Post by: baldgye on Tue, 28 October 2014, 13:44:28
Post by: pichu23 on Tue, 28 October 2014, 14:01:00
He is back on Reddit
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2kh15s/amethyst_so_close/
lol 40 bucks for that. :))
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 28 October 2014, 14:06:30
It's funny to read people complaining about the price of knock-off's on reddit
I think that they're actually more expensive than waiting for a sale and buying retail.
Kinda funny, really.
Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 28 October 2014, 14:22:48
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 28 October 2014, 14:29:00
I think that they're actually more expensive than waiting for a sale and buying retail.
Kinda funny, really.
It is, I think I paid 27$ for my drunken skull.
Post by: strict on Tue, 28 October 2014, 14:45:24
ahaha that parody account, the picture of the woman growing caps in her field cracks me up
I love the parody account. "yes, I am. I make more **** cap ok? I make for u" :))
Post by: keyton on Tue, 28 October 2014, 15:21:07
Post by: epzy on Tue, 28 October 2014, 15:23:52
I posted earlier the direct link but nubbinator reported me so moderators erased it.
it's 3bad the mods won't erase you as well ;_;
Post by: Dyslexic on Tue, 28 October 2014, 15:28:16
It's funny to read people complaining about the price of knock-off's on reddit
I don't know why people who think $40 is a lot of money would be interested in a hobby like mechanical keyboards. If you can't afford to drop that kind of money on frivolous crap then you're in the wrong hobby. It just goes to show how schizophrenic that "community" is. They ***** about availability and when that problem is addressed by a counterfeiter they ***** about pricing. It's hilarious.
Post by: HipsterPunks on Tue, 28 October 2014, 15:29:51
Post by: billnye on Tue, 28 October 2014, 15:30:03
lol (I didn't make this it was on reddit)
Post by: baldgye on Tue, 28 October 2014, 15:30:13
It's funny to read people complaining about the price of knock-off's on reddit
I don't know why people who think $40 is a lot of money would be interested in a hobby like mechanical keyboards. If you can't afford to drop that kind of money on frivolous crap then you're in the wrong hobby. It just goes to show how schizophrenic that "community" is. They ***** about availability and when that problem is addressed by a counterfeiter they ***** about pricing. It's hilarious.
But that's reddit, where people post pictures of there ****ty Razer keyboards next to some ****ty ASDA shoes... they think that subbing to a thread and owning the cheapest ****tiest mech board makes them into mech keyboards and gives them some sort of valuable opinion
Post by: 00zeRO on Tue, 28 October 2014, 15:35:32
I posted earlier the direct link but nubbinator reported me so moderators erased it.
it's 3bad the mods won't erase you as well ;_;
(http://i.giphy.com/6xpogM1KSBZ1m.gif)
Post by: Tym on Tue, 28 October 2014, 15:36:32
But that's reddit, where people post pictures of there ****ty Razer keyboards next to some ****ty ASDA shoes... they think that subbing to a thread and owning the cheapest ****tiest mech board makes them into mech keyboards and gives them some sort of valuable opinion
I may or may not buy some clothes from Asda :3
There jumpers are cheap and warm! Don't judge me :eek:
Post by: baldgye on Tue, 28 October 2014, 15:37:21
But that's reddit, where people post pictures of there ****ty Razer keyboards next to some ****ty ASDA shoes... they think that subbing to a thread and owning the cheapest ****tiest mech board makes them into mech keyboards and gives them some sort of valuable opinion
I may or may not buy some clothes from Asda :3
There jumpers are cheap and warm! Don't judge me :eek:
hahaha <3 hey man lets not mix jumpers and shoes :P
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 October 2014, 15:51:27
But that's reddit, where people post pictures of there ****ty Razer keyboards next to some ****ty ASDA shoes... they think that subbing to a thread and owning the cheapest ****tiest mech board makes them into mech keyboards and gives them some sort of valuable opinion
I may or may not buy some clothes from Asda :3
There jumpers are cheap and warm! Don't judge me :o
No idea what ASDA is or jumpers but google led me to this....
[attachimg=1][attachimg=2]
Post by: baldgye on Tue, 28 October 2014, 15:56:08
Post by: Tym on Tue, 28 October 2014, 15:58:45
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 28 October 2014, 16:06:03
Asda were a relatively cheap chain of grocery stores, but a couple of years back they opened a clothing section, very cheap and crappy clothes. But some of it isn't bad, and yeah Ray thats a jumper lol, but I just get all black ones, no reindeer patterns :P
I need to see a picture of Tym wearing the reindeer ones!! :))
Post by: Tym on Tue, 28 October 2014, 16:07:55
I need to see a picture of Tym wearing the reindeer ones!! :))I'll go and see if I can buy one :D My Christmas jumper collection currently consists of white and black patterns mainly :(
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 October 2014, 16:10:30
Asda were a relatively cheap chain of grocery stores, but a couple of years back they opened a clothing section, very cheap and crappy clothes. But some of it isn't bad, and yeah Ray thats a jumper lol, but I just get all black ones, no reindeer patterns :p
So what size 'jumper' would you wear then?? And do you still have the same address?? 8)
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 28 October 2014, 16:10:48
i love them so much
Post by: Tym on Tue, 28 October 2014, 16:20:00
Medium and Yes :DAsda were a relatively cheap chain of grocery stores, but a couple of years back they opened a clothing section, very cheap and crappy clothes. But some of it isn't bad, and yeah Ray thats a jumper lol, but I just get all black ones, no reindeer patterns :p
So what size 'jumper' would you wear then?? And do you still have the same address?? 8)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 28 October 2014, 16:52:06
send me ugly christmas sweaters please
i love them so much
Seconded.
Post by: strict on Tue, 28 October 2014, 17:21:42
I posted earlier the direct link but nubbinator reported me so moderators erased it.
There was at least one more report than that of your ****ty post
Post by: keyton on Tue, 28 October 2014, 21:20:25
I posted earlier the direct link but nubbinator reported me so moderators erased it.
it's 3bad the mods won't erase you as well ;_;
FTFY
Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 28 October 2014, 21:22:24
lolwutI posted earlier the direct link but nubbinator reported me so moderators erased it.
it's 3bad the mods won't erase you as well ;_;
FTFY
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 28 October 2014, 21:27:51
lolwutI posted earlier the direct link but nubbinator reported me so moderators erased it.
it's 3bad the mods won't erase you as well ;_;
FTFY
I think he meant "QFT".
Post by: bueller on Tue, 28 October 2014, 21:52:27
I posted earlier the direct link but nubbinator reported me so moderators erased it.
it's 3bad the mods won't erase you as well ;_;
FTFY
You still here? Go back to reddit.
Post by: demik on Tue, 28 October 2014, 21:56:43
I posted earlier the direct link but nubbinator reported me so moderators erased it.
it's 3bad the mods won't erase you as well ;_;
FTFY
epzy rekt
RIPzy
Post by: bueller on Tue, 28 October 2014, 21:59:58
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 28 October 2014, 22:04:05
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 October 2014, 22:08:27
Dang. 10k
meh
Post by: demik on Tue, 28 October 2014, 22:09:02
Almost at the 10K club Dembro!
not if i can help it!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 October 2014, 22:12:01
Almost at the 10K club Dembro!
not if i can help it!
just ask your favorite mod to make it permanent :D
Post by: demik on Tue, 28 October 2014, 22:30:45
and i only like hoffman and he'd agree that'd be cheating
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 28 October 2014, 22:30:47
Almost at the 10K club Dembro!
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37647.msg1516542#msg1516542
:))
Post by: demik on Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:43:23
I posted earlier the direct link but nubbinator reported me so moderators erased it.
it's 3bad the mods won't erase you as well ;_;
FTFY
epzy rekt
RIPzy
mfw epc so rekt he hasnt logged back on
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:47:11
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:47:22
I posted earlier the direct link but nubbinator reported me so moderators erased it.
it's 3bad the mods won't erase you as well ;_;
FTFY
epzy rekt
RIPzy
mfw epc so rekt he hasnt logged back on
MFW
(http://i.imgur.com/UPTQ5EY.png)
Post by: demik on Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:53:40
I posted earlier the direct link but nubbinator reported me so moderators erased it.
it's 3bad the mods won't erase you as well ;_;
FTFY
epzy rekt
RIPzy
mfw epc so rekt he hasnt logged back on
Looks like you're now on The_Beast's level.
ayy lmao
I posted earlier the direct link but nubbinator reported me so moderators erased it.
it's 3bad the mods won't erase you as well ;_;
FTFY
epzy rekt
RIPzy
mfw epc so rekt he hasnt logged back on
MFWShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/UPTQ5EY.png)
shhh
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:58:57
Almost at the 10K club Dembro!
not if i can help it!
Uahaha stopped at 9999 :p
Post by: pbtforever on Wed, 29 October 2014, 11:30:36
(http://i.imgur.com/M6dlo8Z.png)
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 29 October 2014, 11:46:46
Looks like more are coming.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/M6dlo8Z.png)
such quality
many colours
wow
Post by: snoopy on Wed, 29 October 2014, 12:05:36
Looks like more are coming.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/M6dlo8Z.png)
what's the bottom row? melted ****?
Post by: strict on Wed, 29 October 2014, 12:08:20
what's the bottom row? melted ****?
Its a CC; cooch cap :))
Post by: demik on Wed, 29 October 2014, 12:18:32
Looks like more are coming.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/M6dlo8Z.png)
what's the bottom row? melted ****?
Looks like more are coming.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/M6dlo8Z.png)
what's the bottom row? melted ****?
dated many burn victims bruh?
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 29 October 2014, 12:20:14
Looks like more are coming.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/M6dlo8Z.png)
what's the bottom row? melted ****?Looks like more are coming.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/M6dlo8Z.png)
what's the bottom row? melted ****?
dated many burn victims bruh?
nahh he just ****ed up his fleshlight
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 29 October 2014, 19:55:09
Looks like more are coming.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/M6dlo8Z.png)
what's the bottom row? melted ****?
See demik, I'm not the only one who thought it looked like a retarded scary vagina.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 29 October 2014, 19:55:49
Looks like more are coming.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/M6dlo8Z.png)
what's the bottom row? melted ****?
See demik, I'm not the only one who thought it looked like a retarded scary vagina.
It totally does. Demik just doesn't like people talking about that.
Post by: demik on Wed, 29 October 2014, 19:56:04
Looks like more are coming.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/M6dlo8Z.png)
what's the bottom row? melted ****?
See demik, I'm not the only one who thought it looked like a retarded scary vagina.
both of you go after the same vaginas then
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 29 October 2014, 20:00:10
Looks like more are coming.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/M6dlo8Z.png)
what's the bottom row? melted ****?
See demik, I'm not the only one who thought it looked like a retarded scary vagina.
both of you go after the same vaginas then
(http://i.imgur.com/MBrML.gif)
Post by: demik on Wed, 29 October 2014, 20:18:29
Looks like more are coming.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/M6dlo8Z.png)
what's the bottom row? melted ****?
See demik, I'm not the only one who thought it looked like a retarded scary vagina.
both of you go after the same vaginas thenShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/MBrML.gif)
you need more lube if your vagina is ending up burnt and retarded bruh
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 29 October 2014, 20:24:20
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 29 October 2014, 21:42:33
..............way off topic.
Post by: noisyturtle on Sat, 01 November 2014, 14:38:11
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2kzaf8/k3_skulls_controversial/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2kzaf8/k3_skulls_controversial/)
Post by: exitfire401 on Sat, 01 November 2014, 14:40:17
So is K3 making GumRot dupes now too?
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2kzaf8/k3_skulls_controversial/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2kzaf8/k3_skulls_controversial/)
Not sure. Probably.
Post by: Michael on Sat, 01 November 2014, 14:41:34
Post by: noisyturtle on Sat, 01 November 2014, 14:43:17
Good thing you can tell how **** quality they are. No wonder he put a filter over the photo. lulz.
Noticed that too, putting up a lumpy filter ≠ getting rid of the lumps in your ****ty products
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sat, 01 November 2014, 15:16:52
Post by: IPT on Sat, 01 November 2014, 15:38:42
so...yeah
Post by: HipsterPunks on Sat, 01 November 2014, 16:08:09
he commented that he didn't make gumrot
so...yeah
Never trust a thief
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 01 November 2014, 17:58:07
he commented that he didn't make gumrot
so...yeah
Never trust a thief
K3 has been surprisingly honest in the info he gives, at least as far as I can tell.
Even though he's a thieving ****.
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 02 November 2014, 11:41:19
Post by: strict on Sun, 02 November 2014, 21:59:48
(https://i.imgur.com/VAXqnAX.png)
Post by: demik on Sun, 02 November 2014, 22:02:20
they're blank. if anything, these are his first legit keycaps.
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 02 November 2014, 22:07:05
Post by: exitfire401 on Sun, 02 November 2014, 22:09:58
how are blanks knock offs?
they're blank. if anything, these are his first legit keycaps.
I'm gonna have to agree with you for this one. Blanks can't really be ripoffs.
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 02 November 2014, 22:11:06
how are blanks knock offs?
they're blank. if anything, these are his first legit keycaps.
If he molded Clack's blanks, they're knock-offs. If he developed them himself, they're originals. Everything about the stems in the pics screams direct copy to me.
That said, it is neither copyrightable or patentable, so it's not illegal, it's just douchey.
Post by: demik on Sun, 02 November 2014, 22:14:12
how are blanks knock offs?
they're blank. if anything, these are his first legit keycaps.
If he molded Clack's blanks, they're knock-offs. If he developed them himself, they're originals. Everything about the stems in the pics screams direct copy to me.
That said, it is neither copyrightable or patentable, so it's not illegal, it's just douchey.
now we head into the area of artist already coping another artist (or company) design.
this dude is a **** of many reasons, but not becaus he's making blanks now.
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 02 November 2014, 22:18:29
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 02 November 2014, 22:22:50
Shouldn't we be happy that newbies will buy fake, leaving the EK cc sales for legit buyers? More chance for us to win?
I think it's noble that people are more interested in artistic integrity than greedily having a better shot at sales.
Post by: demik on Sun, 02 November 2014, 22:25:46
Shouldn't we be happy that newbies will buy fake, leaving the EK cc sales for legit buyers? More chance for us to win?
I think it's noble that people are more interested in artistic integrity than greedily having a better shot at sales.
exactly.
where is people's love for CC or BB? oh, only when it doesn't benefit them other than looking like a good guy.
Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 02 November 2014, 22:35:11
Shouldn't we be happy that newbies will buy fake, leaving the EK cc sales for legit buyers? More chance for us to win?Not really, they will buy the fakes because they cant get real ones, then they will buy real ones because they want real ones. Even if they don't really want real ones they will continue to buy because they want to flip them.
So no, it isn't going to cut down on demand in any way.
Post by: CaptLock on Sun, 02 November 2014, 22:38:36
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60907.0
:))
Post by: demik on Sun, 02 November 2014, 22:39:08
If you win tomorrow sell me yours!
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60907.0
:))
but you cry like a ***** about prices
Post by: bueller on Sun, 02 November 2014, 22:41:36
If you win tomorrow sell me yours!
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60907.0
:))
No.
Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 02 November 2014, 22:46:53
Post by: whentheclouds on Sun, 02 November 2014, 22:47:46
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 02 November 2014, 22:49:32
Why do we have so many trolls on this forum....
They got tired of all the keyboards with shoes next to them??
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 02 November 2014, 22:50:56
Why do we have so many trolls on this forum....
They got tired of all the keyboards with shoes next to them??
Clearly, it's time to go next level. Socks on keyboards, keyboards in shoes.
Or go to the other end of the body and post keyboards with "fedoras".
Post by: demik on Sun, 02 November 2014, 22:51:06
what's the deal with this dude? nobody's gonna sell you **** when you can't even adhere to basic social etiquette by posting PMs all over the forum
maybe he's socially retarded.
or, just an idiot. maybe he thinks if he talks enough **** about another member somebody will say "holy **** this guy is legit i should sell him one at a loss because of how legit he is"
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 02 November 2014, 22:54:05
post keyboards with "fedoras".
This could work.
Post by: whentheclouds on Sun, 02 November 2014, 23:00:43
maybe he's socially retarded.probably. guy's recent posting history pretty consists entirely of begging others to sell Clacks to him, in a totally unabashed manner too. ironically he refused the only offer he was given, but not before letting the whole world know that the person who offered it to him is the devil incarnate
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sun, 02 November 2014, 23:00:52
what's the deal with this dude? nobody's gonna sell you **** when you can't even adhere to basic social etiquette by posting PMs all over the forum
Well said haha. :thumb:
Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 02 November 2014, 23:02:06
GENIUS!Why do we have so many trolls on this forum....
They got tired of all the keyboards with shoes next to them??
Clearly, it's time to go next level. Socks on keyboards, keyboards in shoes.
(http://i.imgur.com/emKpSee.jpg)
Post by: demik on Sun, 02 November 2014, 23:06:54
maybe he's socially retarded.probably. guy's recent posting history pretty consists entirely of begging others to sell Clacks to him, in a totally unabashed manner too. ironically he refused the only offer he was given, but not before letting the whole world know that the person who offered it to him is the devil incarnate
epzy pretty devilish, but not because of CC's
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 02 November 2014, 23:09:56
How did I miss this drama! You are out of GH for a couple of hours and bam, you missed this juicy drama.. Moar drama plz!maybe he's socially retarded.probably. guy's recent posting history pretty consists entirely of begging others to sell Clacks to him, in a totally unabashed manner too. ironically he refused the only offer he was given, but not before letting the whole world know that the person who offered it to him is the devil incarnate
Post by: epzy on Sun, 02 November 2014, 23:11:47
maybe he's socially retarded.probably. guy's recent posting history pretty consists entirely of begging others to sell Clacks to him, in a totally unabashed manner too. ironically he refused the only offer he was given, but not before letting the whole world know that the person who offered it to him is the devil incarnate
epzy pretty devilish, but not because of CC's
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
these red bottoms on our feet lookin' devilish
How did I miss this drama! You are out of GH for a couple of hours and bam, you missed this juicy drama.. Moar drama plz!maybe he's socially retarded.probably. guy's recent posting history pretty consists entirely of begging others to sell Clacks to him, in a totally unabashed manner too. ironically he refused the only offer he was given, but not before letting the whole world know that the person who offered it to him is the devil incarnate
offered captlock an oktoberfest for $150 shipped, but sold it to another guy for $140+shipping instead. captlock wanted to pay $50 and got butthurt. he then proceeded to post pm's from me in 2-3 different threads and what not xD
Post by: demik on Sun, 02 November 2014, 23:13:22
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 02 November 2014, 23:41:48
GENIUS!Why do we have so many trolls on this forum....
They got tired of all the keyboards with shoes next to them??
Clearly, it's time to go next level. Socks on keyboards, keyboards in shoes.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/emKpSee.jpg)
Haha nice
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 03 November 2014, 00:12:32
Grrr.
Post by: zennasyndroxx on Mon, 03 November 2014, 03:34:59
Post by: Belfong on Mon, 03 November 2014, 03:38:32
provided that he is going to do caps that he created (by that i mean a whole new original design) would you guys still support him?That's wrong on moral grounds.
Post by: zennasyndroxx on Mon, 03 November 2014, 03:42:10
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 03 November 2014, 04:45:30
oh well i guess it's byebye dota caps then
Dota?
http://www.geekkeys.com/dota-2-backlight-keycap/
http://www.geekkeys.com/dota-2-keycap/
Post by: zennasyndroxx on Mon, 03 November 2014, 06:03:14
oh well i guess it's byebye dota caps then
Dota?
http://www.geekkeys.com/dota-2-backlight-keycap/
http://www.geekkeys.com/dota-2-keycap/
they're in my collection including the zinc ones.
i was eyeing on the dota 2 caps he made.
keyword: was
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 03 November 2014, 07:12:16
I'm not going to buy his stuff either way just saying maybe he didn't copy these blanks.
Post by: IPT on Mon, 03 November 2014, 09:34:24
oh well i guess it's byebye dota caps then
Dota?
http://www.geekkeys.com/dota-2-backlight-keycap/
http://www.geekkeys.com/dota-2-keycap/
they're in my collection including the zinc ones.
i was eyeing on the dota 2 caps he made.
keyword: was
personally i don't see how someone else has the right to make a dota cap but k3 doesn't.
its not like any of these people making dota caps has the approval of Valve anyway.
Now you can argue you don't wanna support k3 morally i guess that's fine. But if you're worried about "copying", its really not as we're all happy to get DOTA/League/SC2 stuff. I mean the Kmiller esports team PBT dyesub caps were def made without any approval of the teams lol.
Post by: demik on Mon, 03 November 2014, 10:35:07
provided that he is going to do caps that he created (by that i mean a whole new original design) would you guys still support him?
nah. just off the fact he acted like a ****. it would be one thing if he used a cc as a stepping stone to his own products but the fact hes selling them out of spite he can go **** himself
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 03 November 2014, 11:42:48
provided that he is going to do caps that he created (by that i mean a whole new original design) would you guys still support him?
nah. just off the fact he acted like a ****. it would be one thing if he used a cc as a stepping stone to his own products but the fact hes selling them out of spite he can go **** himself
Exactly! If he ever planned to make his own **** then he shouldnt of sold CC knock offs.
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 03 November 2014, 12:09:40
provided that he is going to do caps that he created (by that i mean a whole new original design) would you guys still support him?
nah. just off the fact he acted like a ****. it would be one thing if he used a cc as a stepping stone to his own products but the fact hes selling them out of spite he can go **** himself
Like when Samsung ripped off the iPhone design in order to give the Galaxy brand a step up over the rest of the Android phones..
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 03 November 2014, 12:25:21
Like when Samsung ripped off the iPhone design in order to give the Galaxy brand a step up over the rest of the Android phones..
I don't remember that. Can you give some specifics?
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 03 November 2014, 12:28:35
Like when Samsung ripped off the iPhone design in order to give the Galaxy brand a step up over the rest of the Android phones..
I don't remember that. Can you give some specifics?
It was pretty big news; http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/mar/31/apple-sues-samsung-for-2bn
I think Apple won? It went on for months and I lost interest.. but from the documents that came out in court Samsung basically said to there design team to copy the iPhone
Post by: strict on Mon, 03 November 2014, 12:30:36
provided that he is going to do caps that he created (by that i mean a whole new original design) would you guys still support him?
I would never knowingly support anything he creates, original or not. The guy is a grade-A scumbag and I refuse to do business with people so petulant and disrespectful.
"Honestly, I don’t want to make brobot’s clone, they are really ugly cheap ****. But Brocap always intervene in my business so I make a chance for him to show his genius."
**** that guy and anyone who supports him.
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 03 November 2014, 13:33:14
provided that he is going to do caps that he created (by that i mean a whole new original design) would you guys still support him?
I would never knowingly support anything he creates, original or not. The guy is a grade-A scumbag and I refuse to do business with people so petulant and disrespectful.
"Honestly, I don’t want to make brobot’s clone, they are really ugly cheap ****. But Brocap always intervene in my business so I make a chance for him to show his genius."
**** that guy and anyone who supports him.
+1
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 03 November 2014, 13:43:58
provided that he is going to do caps that he created (by that i mean a whole new original design) would you guys still support him?
I would never knowingly support anything he creates, original or not. The guy is a grade-A scumbag and I refuse to do business with people so petulant and disrespectful.
"Honestly, I don’t want to make brobot’s clone, they are really ugly cheap ****. But Brocap always intervene in my business so I make a chance for him to show his genius."
**** that guy and anyone who supports him.
This.
Post by: tbc on Mon, 03 November 2014, 15:27:44
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 03 November 2014, 15:57:40
provided that he is going to do caps that he created (by that i mean a whole new original design) would you guys still support him?
I would never knowingly support anything he creates, original or not. The guy is a grade-A scumbag and I refuse to do business with people so petulant and disrespectful.
"Honestly, I don’t want to make brobot’s clone, they are really ugly cheap ****. But Brocap always intervene in my business so I make a chance for him to show his genius."
**** that guy and anyone who supports him.
That's about right.
I contacted the reddit admins regarding their stance on IP theft in this situation, although that's for an entirely different thing as well as this.
Post by: Xowie on Mon, 03 November 2014, 16:03:42
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 03 November 2014, 16:06:57
The cost of fakes are in the same ballpark as legit CCs. :eek:
Which flies in the face of the "Clacks are too expensive" argument apologists make.
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 03 November 2014, 16:19:21
The argument for knock-offs makes sense if you are talking about Nikes or something with a broad market, but to replicate something so niche is baffling. I don't like the racist thoughts it puts in my head about Asians being bootleggers.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 03 November 2014, 16:19:42
The cost of fakes are in the same ballpark as legit CCs. :eek:
Which flies in the face of the "Clacks are too expensive" argument apologists make.
I think when they say that they mean 2nd hand clacks, not retail. I guess.
Post by: Dyslexic on Mon, 03 November 2014, 16:23:57
provided that he is going to do caps that he created (by that i mean a whole new original design) would you guys still support him?
I would never knowingly support anything he creates, original or not. The guy is a grade-A scumbag and I refuse to do business with people so petulant and disrespectful.
"Honestly, I don’t want to make brobot’s clone, they are really ugly cheap ****. But Brocap always intervene in my business so I make a chance for him to show his genius."
**** that guy and anyone who supports him.
+1 for Solidarity. I came out swinging in the fake brocaps thread, and my opinion hasn't changed. He picked a fight with 2 artisans that have a large hand in shaping this community, he'll never see a dime from me.
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 03 November 2014, 16:27:57
The cost of fakes are in the same ballpark as legit CCs. :eek:
Which flies in the face of the "Clacks are too expensive" argument apologists make.
I think when they say that they mean 2nd hand clacks, not retail. I guess.
No, it's just an excuse for their selfishness.
Post by: Xowie on Mon, 03 November 2014, 16:40:14
I just don't understand, if he has that kind of tooling why doesn't he make something cool on his own. Or hire an artist to create a cool design.I completely agree.
Quote
The argument for knock-offs makes sense if you are talking about Nikes or something with a broad market, but to replicate something so niche is baffling. I don't like the racist thoughts it puts in my head about Asians being bootleggers.Why does this make sense? This isnt self evident to me.
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 03 November 2014, 16:54:30
QuoteThe argument for knock-offs makes sense if you are talking about Nikes or something with a broad market, but to replicate something so niche is baffling. I don't like the racist thoughts it puts in my head about Asians being bootleggers.Why does this make sense? This isnt self evident to me.
I guess it doesn't really make sense, you're right. It's just a weird thing to decide to make knock-offs of.
Post by: Dyslexic on Mon, 03 November 2014, 17:35:55
I just don't understand, if he has that kind of tooling why doesn't he make something cool on his own. Or hire an artist to create a cool design.I completely agree.QuoteThe argument for knock-offs makes sense if you are talking about Nikes or something with a broad market, but to replicate something so niche is baffling. I don't like the racist thoughts it puts in my head about Asians being bootleggers.Why does this make sense? This isnt self evident to me.
Well, with things like designer purses and Nikes the knockoffs are typically sold at a fraction of a price to a market that has a high demand for those particular brands. It makes sense because they capitalize on a brand's image while selling low quality, high margin products while enabling those who purchase them to claim they own a highly sought after good (often they convey a certain status as well). In this case it's slightly more confusing because K3 is selling his knockoffs for as much or in some cases more than the originals went for. The only reason he manages to sell anything is because the product he's ripping off is not one that can necessarily be obtained even if you have the money to buy one (second hand or otherwise). The only status/prestige to be achieved with the knockoffs is on these kinds of communities (even mech enthusiasts I know in real life don't get my fascination with artisan caps), but in all honesty anyone posting crick cracks on here will get laughed off the forum. It's all pretty strange, but when people realize that posting pics of their crick cracks won't get them the kind of attention they're seeking I imagine the demand will dry up.
Post by: HipsterPunks on Mon, 03 November 2014, 17:50:10
Post by: Xowie on Mon, 03 November 2014, 17:55:55
I think this sums up the madness nicely and I completely agree. Good post.I just don't understand, if he has that kind of tooling why doesn't he make something cool on his own. Or hire an artist to create a cool design.I completely agree.QuoteThe argument for knock-offs makes sense if you are talking about Nikes or something with a broad market, but to replicate something so niche is baffling. I don't like the racist thoughts it puts in my head about Asians being bootleggers.Why does this make sense? This isnt self evident to me.
Well, with things like designer purses and Nikes the knockoffs are typically sold at a fraction of a price to a market that has a high demand for those particular brands. It makes sense because they capitalize on a brand's image while selling low quality, high margin products while enabling those who purchase them to claim they own a highly sought after good (often they convey a certain status as well). In this case it's slightly more confusing because K3 is selling his knockoffs for as much or in some cases more than the originals went for. The only reason he manages to sell anything is because the product he's ripping off is not one that can necessarily be obtained even if you have the money to buy one (second hand or otherwise). The only status/prestige to be achieved with the knockoffs is on these kinds of communities (even mech enthusiasts I know in real life don't get my fascination with artisan caps), but in all honesty anyone posting crick cracks on here will get laughed off the forum. It's all pretty strange, but when people realize that posting pics of their crick cracks won't get them the kind of attention they're seeking I imagine the demand will dry up.
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 03 November 2014, 18:01:39
i see clacks/v2's as an association with GH, little trophies of being part of the forum. I remember when i was/am a freshy here and i had no clacks/brobots. I started posting more and they became easier to obtain. Its funny how the people buying the fakes want something that is a huge part of this community (hence why Bro/ClickClack have GH requirements to join in the sales) but do not want to be a part of the community. K3's are like the ultimate poser caps, why have caps that associate you with GH if you are not going to be a member? Then again half the people on reddit are already talking about flipping the EK clacks if they win...I think the most ironic thing is the fact that a bunch of them are trying to justify their soon to be flipping by saying they are doing it to screw over geekhack. No, they are doing it because it's easy money for them, in the same way that some geekhack members see clack sales, unfortunately. I really think the whole karma thing might have a big impact on peoples opinions on reddit though, that is a big reason I do not use reddit. For them to call geekhack a circlejerk is hilarious. If r/mk didn't have karma I feel like a bunch of redditors might actual form their own opinions rather than jumping on the bandwagon for their meaningless internet points.
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 03 November 2014, 18:17:52
Post by: demik on Mon, 03 November 2014, 18:30:20
i see clacks/v2's as an association with GH, little trophies of being part of the forum.
i don't.
and i think it's ridiculous to think that way. your trophy is contributing to the forum, not a piece of plastic a vendor sells you. all that mentality creates is GH becoming a cool kids club that you can just buy yourself into.
honestly, all im seeing is "i have a clack, im part of gh!"
what about the people that don't care for them? does that make them less part of GH because they don't have plastic trophies?
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 03 November 2014, 18:31:31
i see clacks/v2's as an association with GH, little trophies of being part of the forum.
i don't.
and i think it's ridiculous to think that way. your trophy is contributing to the forum, not a piece of plastic a vendor sells you. all that mentality creates is GH becoming a cool kids club that you can just buy yourself into.
And then people dump on you because your post count is increasing faster than theirs.
Post by: demik on Mon, 03 November 2014, 18:32:19
i see clacks/v2's as an association with GH, little trophies of being part of the forum.
i don't.
and i think it's ridiculous to think that way. your trophy is contributing to the forum, not a piece of plastic a vendor sells you. all that mentality creates is GH becoming a cool kids club that you can just buy yourself into.
And then people dump on you because your post count is increasing faster than theirs.
well one thing is contributing and another is spam.
Post by: HipsterPunks on Mon, 03 November 2014, 18:56:20
i see clacks/v2's as an association with GH, little trophies of being part of the forum.
i don't.
and i think it's ridiculous to think that way. your trophy is contributing to the forum, not a piece of plastic a vendor sells you. all that mentality creates is GH becoming a cool kids club that you can just buy yourself into.
honestly, all im seeing is "i have a clack, im part of gh!"
what about the people that don't care for them? does that make them less part of GH because they don't have plastic trophies?
Opinons demik, thats just the way i feel when i look down at my keyboard. Clacks and bots are mostly traded through GH and can only be purchased from the makers having a GH account (minus the EK sales/wingnut cap) We all collect different things on the forum, unfortunately clacks and bots are one of the few things that are GH exclusive. So in my mind it portrays some sort of affiliation with the site if you do have one.
im not saying anyone is less a member for not having clacks/bots (not sure what exactly that even means). We all have different tastes, i was speaking more so on what exactly artisan caps represent to me personally.
GH is already the cool kids club, artisan caps have nothing to do with that. Than again i am sitting here in my GH tshirt looking at gh60 keyboards...
Post by: Belfong on Mon, 03 November 2014, 19:06:21
No one expects to walk away with a clack from any sale so it's a pleasant surprise when it does happen, it's something special. In a twisted way it's nice the influx of new members here for the sole purpose of having a chance to buy and sell clacks at drastically inflated costs are selling the clacks back to the people who care about them. I mean it's ****ed sure, but at least we're getting our soldiers back from the terrorists.Everyone knows that the CC and BB will find its way back to GH members who actually care for them. So why would the makers want to spread the love so wide until the point of reaching to total newbie, knowing well this will happen? I understand that there are some newbie who might want to start a collection, heck I was one of them before. But I think a certain requirement such as having post count would have some sort of control. CC has account creation date requirement but he's usually open to people with one month old (from sales date), which is just too lenient. And with this EK sales and Ctrl Alt raffles, there doesn't seem to be any requirements imposed anymore and I bet this is gonna make things worst (in terms of flipping)
Post by: HipsterPunks on Mon, 03 November 2014, 19:08:10
No one expects to walk away with a clack from any sale so it's a pleasant surprise when it does happen, it's something special. In a twisted way it's nice the influx of new members here for the sole purpose of having a chance to buy and sell clacks at drastically inflated costs are selling the clacks back to the people who care about them. I mean it's ****ed sure, but at least we're getting our soldiers back from the terrorists.Everyone knows that the CC and BB will find its way back to GH members who actually care for them. So why would the makers want to spread the love so wide until the point of reaching to total newbie, knowing well this will happen? I understand that there are some newbie who might want to start a collection, heck I was one of them before. But I think a certain requirement such as having post count would have some sort of control. CC has account creation date requirement but he's usually open to people with one month old (from sales date), which is just too lenient. And with this EK sales and Ctrl Alt raffles, there doesn't seem to be any requirements imposed anymore and I bet this is gonna make things worst (in terms of flipping)
Ctrlalt.io requires GH username for Bro raffle
Post by: Belfong on Mon, 03 November 2014, 19:09:11
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 03 November 2014, 19:20:26
No one expects to walk away with a clack from any sale so it's a pleasant surprise when it does happen, it's something special. In a twisted way it's nice the influx of new members here for the sole purpose of having a chance to buy and sell clacks at drastically inflated costs are selling the clacks back to the people who care about them. I mean it's ****ed sure, but at least we're getting our soldiers back from the terrorists.Everyone knows that the CC and BB will find its way back to GH members who actually care for them. So why would the makers want to spread the love so wide until the point of reaching to total newbie, knowing well this will happen? I understand that there are some newbie who might want to start a collection, heck I was one of them before. But I think a certain requirement such as having post count would have some sort of control. CC has account creation date requirement but he's usually open to people with one month old (from sales date), which is just too lenient. And with this EK sales and Ctrl Alt raffles, there doesn't seem to be any requirements imposed anymore and I bet this is gonna make things worst (in terms of flipping)
The other way is worse though. Best to let it be the way it is, rather then enforce more rules and regulations and turn this forum into some elitist red state bull**** :rolleyes:
I also understand why Bro would enact specific rules on the reselling of his work, but I also think it would be a lot more fun to let the market echo what he put into it. The concept of something you created bringing into existence it's own market environment would be too tempting a thing to not want to speculate on. Well for me anyway, but I'm a cynic.
But Bro is old school, and I respect him sticking to his guns and trying to make GH a better and brighter place for old and new members alike.
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 03 November 2014, 19:21:20
Turns out they both infringed on each others patents. I'm not sure how that applies here, since CC certainly didnt copy anything from k3kcLike when Samsung ripped off the iPhone design in order to give the Galaxy brand a step up over the rest of the Android phones..
I don't remember that. Can you give some specifics?
It was pretty big news; http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/mar/31/apple-sues-samsung-for-2bn
I think Apple won? It went on for months and I lost interest.. but from the documents that came out in court Samsung basically said to there design team to copy the iPhone
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 03 November 2014, 19:24:15
i see clacks/v2's as an association with GH, little trophies of being part of the forum.
i don't.
and i think it's ridiculous to think that way. your trophy is contributing to the forum, not a piece of plastic a vendor sells you. all that mentality creates is GH becoming a cool kids club that you can just buy yourself into.
And then people dump on you because your post count is increasing faster than theirs.
well one thing is contributing and another is spam.
Now you're getting picky :))
Post by: strict on Mon, 03 November 2014, 19:26:25
Post by: demik on Mon, 03 November 2014, 19:29:35
I vote for a 971 post minimum to enter any artisan salequad 9s only
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 03 November 2014, 19:37:07
I vote for a 971 post minimum to enter any artisan salequad 9s only
As a minimum :p
Post by: strict on Mon, 03 November 2014, 19:39:33
I vote for a 971 post minimum to enter any artisan salequad 9s only
I vote for a 971 post minimum to enter any artisan salequad 9s only
As a minimum :p
(https://i.imgur.com/D6aaStC.gif)
Post by: Belfong on Mon, 03 November 2014, 19:43:51
I vote for a 971 post minimum to enter any artisan saleThis guy gets it!!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 03 November 2014, 19:59:06
I vote for a 971 post minimum to enter any artisan salequad 9s only
Don't make me push you over 10,000. >:D
Post by: demik on Mon, 03 November 2014, 20:00:49
Post by: Krytone on Mon, 03 November 2014, 20:07:50
I vote for a 971 post minimum to enter any artisan sale
As a newbie and aspiring cc and bb owner, this hurt me :'(
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 03 November 2014, 20:26:18
I vote for a 971 post minimum to enter any artisan sale
As a newbie and aspiring cc and bb owner, this hurt me :'(
This is now a panda thread:
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Post by: trizkut on Mon, 03 November 2014, 20:28:41
This is now a panda thread:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Ketj4NS.jpg)
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Post by: demik on Mon, 03 November 2014, 20:30:57
I vote for a 971 post minimum to enter any artisan sale
As a newbie and aspiring cc and bb owner, this hurt me :'(
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how high are you
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 03 November 2014, 20:34:12
I vote for a 971 post minimum to enter any artisan sale
As a newbie and aspiring cc and bb owner, this hurt me :'(
This is now a panda thread:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Ketj4NS.jpg)
how high are you
(http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/e1/6b/58/e16b58a838e4de7068030db8cbbe9caf.jpg)
But I am none high.
More
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Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 03 November 2014, 20:38:35
I vote for a 971 post minimum to enter any artisan sale
As a newbie and aspiring cc and bb owner, this hurt me :'(
This is now a panda thread:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Ketj4NS.jpg)
how high are you
Not high enough...
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Post by: demik on Mon, 03 November 2014, 20:40:08
houffman, same question but in spanish
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 03 November 2014, 20:42:09
nubs quick what's 5 x 6
houffman, same question but in spanish
What the ****, we didn't learn how to count to 42 in Spanish. All I know is up to octo.
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 03 November 2014, 20:42:59
Trente
Post by: demik on Mon, 03 November 2014, 20:44:26
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 03 November 2014, 21:45:08
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 03 November 2014, 21:48:47
Lol derailed
Thread doesn't always need to be serious. As long as nobody flames anyone, I'm not gonna summon a mod.
This is the off topic board, after all.
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 03 November 2014, 22:05:51
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 03 November 2014, 22:06:48
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/03/5649ba191048463e3db646d1e8ae3624.jpg)
Post by: baldgye on Tue, 04 November 2014, 01:08:17
Lol derailed
Thread doesn't always need to be serious. As long as nobody flames anyone, I'm not gonna summon a mod.
This is the off topic board, after all.
Oh thank you so much oh wise one, we are so privileged to have your guidance and wisdom
Post by: baldgye on Tue, 04 November 2014, 01:10:59
Turns out they both infringed on each others patents. I'm not sure how that applies here, since CC certainly didnt copy anything from k3kcLike when Samsung ripped off the iPhone design in order to give the Galaxy brand a step up over the rest of the Android phones..
I don't remember that. Can you give some specifics?
It was pretty big news; http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/mar/31/apple-sues-samsung-for-2bn
I think Apple won? It went on for months and I lost interest.. but from the documents that came out in court Samsung basically said to there design team to copy the iPhone
It was more of a joke than anything else, although I was specifically referring to Samsung ripping off the iPhone design to give them a head start over the rest of the android field. The rest of that whole saga is more political bull**** than anything else.
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 04 November 2014, 01:30:31
I vote for a 971 post minimum to enter any artisan sale
As a newbie and aspiring cc and bb owner, this hurt me :'(
This is now a panda thread:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Ketj4NS.jpg)
Omggggggg it's so fluffy I'm gonna die!!
Post by: redskull on Tue, 04 November 2014, 08:08:03
edit, found this;
(http://i.imgur.com/sqrwapZ.png)
not sure he won everything or photochop...
Post by: baldgye on Tue, 04 November 2014, 08:18:24
i think i saw somewhere that k3kc won something from EK. :))
edit, found this;Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sqrwapZ.png)
not sure he won everything or photochop...
Probably bull****
Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 04 November 2014, 08:30:10
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 04 November 2014, 08:35:29
i think i saw somewhere that k3kc won something from EK. :))
edit, found this;Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sqrwapZ.png)
not sure he won everything or photochop...
nvm didn't see there is a new drawing. Still obvious fake.
Post by: yicaoyimu on Tue, 04 November 2014, 08:43:48
Post by: IPT on Tue, 04 November 2014, 09:36:11
That's not an elitist attitude at all lol
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 04 November 2014, 09:38:58
i love how there was a discussion about post minimums to buying a CC/BB.
That's not an elitist attitude at all lol
10,000 posts or gtfo :p :D :))
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 04 November 2014, 10:22:11
i love how there was a discussion about post minimums to buying a CC/BB.
That's not an elitist attitude at all lol
It was definitely serious.
Post by: IPT on Tue, 04 November 2014, 10:42:18
i love how there was a discussion about post minimums to buying a CC/BB.
That's not an elitist attitude at all lol
It was definitely serious.
so http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51797.msg1524617#msg1524617 wasn't serious eh?
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 04 November 2014, 12:28:59
How is buying or supporting fake Cherry MX switches (Kailh, etc.) different than fake Clacks? People say they feel nice/better, but in the end they are a Chinese company ripping off another company's product and profiting from Cherry's IP. Maybe I'm uninformed, but I'm a little surprised that there are established members here against fake Clacks but buying fake switches. I'm not meaning to offend anyone, just wanting to spark some thought.
Post by: trizkut on Tue, 04 November 2014, 12:40:22
Not trying to star a war just a question:
How is buying or supporting fake Cherry MX switches (Kailh, etc.) different than fake Clacks? People say they feel nice/better, but in the end they are a Chinese company ripping off another company's product and profiting from Cherry's IP. Maybe I'm uninformed, but I'm a little surprised that there are established members here against fake Clacks but buying fake switches. I'm not meaning to offend anyone, just wanting to spark some thought.
Cherry had patents for their switches, but they expired in early 2014 afaik. Their inventions were protected by patent law, whereas art is protected by copyright law.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 04 November 2014, 12:49:22
Not trying to star a war just a question:
How is buying or supporting fake Cherry MX switches (Kailh, etc.) different than fake Clacks? People say they feel nice/better, but in the end they are a Chinese company ripping off another company's product and profiting from Cherry's IP. Maybe I'm uninformed, but I'm a little surprised that there are established members here against fake Clacks but buying fake switches. I'm not meaning to offend anyone, just wanting to spark some thought.
There are opinions on that as well some can be found here http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56406.0
Post by: appleonama on Tue, 04 November 2014, 12:57:28
Hh keeps breaking
Post by: heedpantsnow on Tue, 04 November 2014, 13:04:04
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 04 November 2014, 13:59:50
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 04 November 2014, 14:37:31
here's my entry:GENIUS!Why do we have so many trolls on this forum....
They got tired of all the keyboards with shoes next to them??
Clearly, it's time to go next level. Socks on keyboards, keyboards in shoes.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/emKpSee.jpg)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3956/15513453850_81d844074b_o.jpg)
Post by: eth0s on Tue, 04 November 2014, 14:48:59
Is it true that buying fake Clacks will make your pee-pee fall off? That's waht somebody told me.
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 04 November 2014, 14:59:32
What about keyboard shoes? That's a shoe made from a keyboard. Or maybe it's a keyboard made from a shoe. Either way, pretty kewl.
Is it true that buying fake Clacks will make your pee-pee fall off? That's waht somebody told me.
oh man, you could turn a pair of 60% into sandals
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 04 November 2014, 14:59:47
Post by: epzy on Thu, 06 November 2014, 12:50:18
If you win tomorrow sell me yours!
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=60907.0
:))
I won!
PM incoming.
Oh w8...
Post by: 3Love on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:23:21
So many bad guys in the world.
So sad!
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:25:59
I don't like no creative people. They are so boring. We are playing keyboard and keycaps for fun. They are just want money.
So many bad guys in the world.
So sad!
That's...
surprisingly insightful?
Post by: 3Love on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:30:04
Thank u!I don't like no creative people. They are so boring. We are playing keyboard and keycaps for fun. They are just want money.
So many bad guys in the world.
So sad!
That's...
surprisingly insightful?
Anyway, cheating is bad behavior.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:55:08
I don't like no creative people. They are so boring. We are playing keyboard and keycaps for fun. They are just want money.
So many bad guys in the world.
So sad!
This. I really like 3love; he's a good guy!
Post by: demik on Thu, 06 November 2014, 16:35:12
I don't like no creative people. They are so boring. We are playing keyboard and keycaps for fun. They are just want money.
So many bad guys in the world.
So sad!
funny. youre one of the reasons why these people are around. they see people throwing stupid amounts of money and they want a piece of the pie.
Post by: yicaoyimu on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:16:49
funny. youre one of the reasons why these people are around. they see people throwing stupid amounts of money and they want a piece of the pie.
So 3Love should be blamed?
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:24:32
I don't like no creative people. They are so boring. We are playing keyboard and keycaps for fun. They are just want money.
So many bad guys in the world.
So sad!
funny. youre one of the reasons why these people are around. they see people throwing stupid amounts of money and they want a piece of the pie.
Hey man I'm sorry but I don't think that's true at all. Lots of folks pay lots of money and drive up the price of lots of stuff. But the great things about Clacks and Bros is that with persistence both can still be had at retail prices eventually. So we all have a choice.
That said we're not talking about water or rations here. If you don't want to pay the prices or enter raffles then that's okay.
Post by: meiosis on Tue, 25 November 2014, 16:57:59
I don't like no creative people. They are so boring. We are playing keyboard and keycaps for fun. They are just want money.
So many bad guys in the world.
So sad!
funny. youre one of the reasons why these people are around. they see people throwing stupid amounts of money and they want a piece of the pie.
Hey man I'm sorry but I don't think that's true at all. Lots of folks pay lots of money and drive up the price of lots of stuff. But the great things about Clacks and Bros is that with persistence both can still be had at retail prices eventually. So we all have a choice.
That said we're not talking about water or rations here. If you don't want to pay the prices or enter raffles then that's okay.
I could buy 5 356CL's and 50 clacks and it still wouldn't cover maintenance on my car. holy f**K,
well actually at market prices they probably would.. meh ._.
Post by: 3Love on Tue, 25 November 2014, 21:33:57
haha, I just want to say copy other's creative is badI don't like no creative people. They are so boring. We are playing keyboard and keycaps for fun. They are just want money.
So many bad guys in the world.
So sad!
funny. youre one of the reasons why these people are around. they see people throwing stupid amounts of money and they want a piece of the pie.
Hey man I'm sorry but I don't think that's true at all. Lots of folks pay lots of money and drive up the price of lots of stuff. But the great things about Clacks and Bros is that with persistence both can still be had at retail prices eventually. So we all have a choice.
That said we're not talking about water or rations here. If you don't want to pay the prices or enter raffles then that's okay.
I could buy 5 356CL's and 50 clacks and it still wouldn't cover maintenance on my car. holy f**K,
well actually at market prices they probably would.. meh ._.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 25 November 2014, 23:07:10
Still gauging what the Chinese forums think about this.
Just gotta wait for CC and BB to get on it. Still nothing we can do other than wait.
Post by: IPT on Wed, 26 November 2014, 10:45:02
In case anyone was wondering, I haven't heard anything from the Vietnamese or the Koreans about anything governmental regarding this issue.
Still gauging what the Chinese forums think about this.
Just gotta wait for CC and BB to get on it. Still nothing we can do other than wait.
real talk, there's nothing that will happen about any of this.
we're talking about pieces of plastic for a small minority niche market.
Do you really think anything will happen or anyone would champion the cause for such a small niche situation?
We're talking about places where big corporations have problems protecting their copyright.
Not to mention many of these places just don't give 2 ****s about copyright laws (korea maybe the exception).
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 26 November 2014, 12:02:58
Do other people? Yes.
Post by: Michael on Wed, 26 November 2014, 12:12:33
In case anyone was wondering, I haven't heard anything from the Vietnamese or the Koreans about anything governmental regarding this issue.
Still gauging what the Chinese forums think about this.
Just gotta wait for CC and BB to get on it. Still nothing we can do other than wait.
real talk, there's nothing that will happen about any of this.
we're talking about pieces of plastic for a small minority niche market.
Do you really think anything will happen or anyone would champion the cause for such a small niche situation?
We're talking about places where big corporations have problems protecting their copyright.
Not to mention many of these places just don't give 2 ****s about copyright laws (korea maybe the exception).
Your information is actually incorrect. Both China and Vietnam are a part of the Berne Convention (you can google this for more info).
While yes, it is difficult to enforce copyrights in other countries, it is possible and has been done, even on a small scale. There are
law offices in these perspective countries that specialize in this.
Viet Nam is a part of the WIPO (http://www.wipo.int/directory/en/details.jsp?country_code=VN) - which means legal means can be brought to the infringing parties.
In essence, yes, we can do something about it. The caveat is time + cost to do so.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 26 November 2014, 12:15:40
Post by: Michael on Wed, 26 November 2014, 12:17:08
PS - please drop the internet police act :P
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 26 November 2014, 12:20:41
'We' as in any infringed upon artists.
Awesome.
Quote
PS - please drop the internet police act :P
I'm not policing anything, just looking for info because people have been *****ing at me.
Why they've been doing that? Couldn't say. They can always look at any other keyboard forum they want.
I'll keep quiet for now, though.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 26 November 2014, 12:28:24
:triangle:'We' as in any infringed upon artists.
Awesome.QuotePS - please drop the internet police act :P
I'm not policing anything, just looking for info because people have been *****ing at me.
Why they've been doing that? Couldn't say. They can always look at any other keyboard forum they want.
I'll keep quiet for now, though.
Post by: IPT on Wed, 26 November 2014, 12:47:59
In case anyone was wondering, I haven't heard anything from the Vietnamese or the Koreans about anything governmental regarding this issue.
Still gauging what the Chinese forums think about this.
Just gotta wait for CC and BB to get on it. Still nothing we can do other than wait.
real talk, there's nothing that will happen about any of this.
we're talking about pieces of plastic for a small minority niche market.
Do you really think anything will happen or anyone would champion the cause for such a small niche situation?
We're talking about places where big corporations have problems protecting their copyright.
Not to mention many of these places just don't give 2 ****s about copyright laws (korea maybe the exception).
Your information is actually incorrect. Both China and Vietnam are a part of the Berne Convention (you can google this for more info).
While yes, it is difficult to enforce copyrights in other countries, it is possible and has been done, even on a small scale. There are
law offices in these perspective countries that specialize in this.
Viet Nam is a part of the WIPO (http://www.wipo.int/directory/en/details.jsp?country_code=VN) - which means legal means can be brought to the infringing parties.
In essence, yes, we can do something about it. The caveat is time + cost to do so.
they can be a part of any agreement and sign any documents.
actions speak louder than words.
The amount of iphone/samsung galaxy clones coming out of China begs to differ.
having been to vietnam, China, Hong Kong and Indonesia i doubt you'll have much luck getting anything done in this situation.
Which is my point.
All we can do at GH is either condemn and not buy.
Maybe even throw a DMCA claim on the website or flag their paypal transactions.
OR be douches and DDOS their servers
but to get any actual legal ruling on this? i doubt it.
Post by: Michael on Wed, 26 November 2014, 12:51:17
In case anyone was wondering, I haven't heard anything from the Vietnamese or the Koreans about anything governmental regarding this issue.
Still gauging what the Chinese forums think about this.
Just gotta wait for CC and BB to get on it. Still nothing we can do other than wait.
real talk, there's nothing that will happen about any of this.
we're talking about pieces of plastic for a small minority niche market.
Do you really think anything will happen or anyone would champion the cause for such a small niche situation?
We're talking about places where big corporations have problems protecting their copyright.
Not to mention many of these places just don't give 2 ****s about copyright laws (korea maybe the exception).
Your information is actually incorrect. Both China and Vietnam are a part of the Berne Convention (you can google this for more info).
While yes, it is difficult to enforce copyrights in other countries, it is possible and has been done, even on a small scale. There are
law offices in these perspective countries that specialize in this.
Viet Nam is a part of the WIPO (http://www.wipo.int/directory/en/details.jsp?country_code=VN) - which means legal means can be brought to the infringing parties.
In essence, yes, we can do something about it. The caveat is time + cost to do so.
they can be a part of any agreement and sign any documents.
actions speak louder than words.
The amount of iphone/samsung galaxy clones coming out of China begs to differ.
having been to vietnam, China, Hong Kong and Indonesia i doubt you'll have much luck getting anything done in this situation.
Which is my point.
All we can do at GH is either condemn and not buy.
Maybe even throw a DMCA claim on the website or flag their paypal transactions.
OR be douches and DDOS their servers
but to get any actual legal ruling on this? i doubt it.
I understand you have many assumptions about these things, but being someone that is actually involved in the process, I can speak
with experience to this matter.
Post by: eth0s on Wed, 26 November 2014, 12:56:35
'We' as in any infringed upon artists.
PS - please drop the internet police act :P
Point the First: Copyright infringement is morally wrong, and it's against the law. When I say it's against the "law", I mean it's contravened by both domestic law and international law. Domestic law means the laws in your country. International law basically means international treaties, like the Berne convention. So don't do it. And don't tell me that you don't know it's wrong. You would have gotten kicked out of school for cheating (i.e., plagiarizing), in China, Korea, Viet Nam, everywhere. So you know it's wrong.
Point the Second: Can I be an internet cop too? Is there an Internet Police Academy? Where do I apply? Do I get a badge? Lemme know, 'cuz this sounds like fun. Also, are there donuts? 'cuz I loves me some donuts. mmm, bearclaws.
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x424/junior16559/donutland.jpg)
Post by: Signature on Wed, 26 November 2014, 12:59:31
Police academy: Internet edition :P
Point the Second: Can I be an internet cop too? Is there an Internet Police Academy? Where do I apply? Do I get a badge? Lemme know, 'cuz this sounds like fun. Also, are there donuts? 'cuz I loves me some donuts. mmm, bearclaws.Show Image(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x424/junior16559/donutland.jpg)
Post by: naasfu on Wed, 26 November 2014, 13:45:09
Police academy: Internet edition :P
Point the Second: Can I be an internet cop too? Is there an Internet Police Academy? Where do I apply? Do I get a badge? Lemme know, 'cuz this sounds like fun. Also, are there donuts? 'cuz I loves me some donuts. mmm, bearclaws.Show Image(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x424/junior16559/donutland.jpg)
:bearclaw:
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 18 January 2015, 21:10:26
http://imgur.com/a/CHIJx
currently #1 post on r/mk
Post by: Rotaku on Sun, 18 January 2015, 21:21:15
i was right k3 does have access to a vaderI was explaining why k3kc was in the wrong in the thread on this at reddit, and I got downvoted to oblivion :(
http://imgur.com/a/CHIJx
currently #1 post on r/mk
Post by: bueller on Sun, 18 January 2015, 21:24:36
Post by: bueller on Sun, 18 January 2015, 21:26:25
i was right k3 does have access to a vaderI was explaining why k3kc was in the wrong in the thread on this at reddit, and I got downvoted to oblivion :(
http://imgur.com/a/CHIJx
currently #1 post on r/mk
Don't bother man, /r/mk are a bunch of hypocrites. Jizz all over Clacks but have no qualms about supporting this parasite. It's why I unsubbed - between the "OMG guise check out my Poker" posts and the ****wits supporting Clack/Bro counterfeiting the place just isn't worth it.
Post by: PunksDead on Sun, 18 January 2015, 21:27:50
Pathetic. And r/mk are doing their best to give K3KC a reach around as usual.
i think its hilarious that they post k3 trades with throw away accounts...
Post by: bueller on Sun, 18 January 2015, 21:29:50
Pathetic. And r/mk are doing their best to give K3KC a reach around as usual.
i think its hilarious that they post k3 trades with throw away accounts...
Haha yeah, no ****ing backbone.
Post by: demik on Sun, 18 January 2015, 21:30:45
> brings k3 over from r/mk
> continues to talk about k3
i dont understand you people
Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 18 January 2015, 21:35:51
wtf is wrong with people?
Post by: bueller on Sun, 18 January 2015, 21:37:00
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
Honestly I'm not surprised. The more and more I use reddit the more I realise it's full of narcissistic sociopaths.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sun, 18 January 2015, 21:39:40
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Post by: bueller on Sun, 18 January 2015, 21:41:34
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
Post by: Halverson on Sun, 18 January 2015, 21:42:19
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I can't wait to get my first clack! And I don't even have 200 posts yet! :D
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 18 January 2015, 21:42:28
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
Honestly I'm not surprised. The more and more I use reddit the more I realise it's full of narcissistic sociopaths.
Pre-Digg implosion Reddit was okay, it's become ****tier and ****tier the longer I've been on it.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sun, 18 January 2015, 21:43:56
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
Seriously, I'm still clackless but I remember the excitement when I got my first artisan and first Bro. I don't know why you'd spoil that feeling buy funding a fake.
Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 18 January 2015, 21:48:33
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I know, right? Took me almost 2 years to get my first Clack. Bunch of whiny Millennial's expecting everything to be easy and handed to them. *****es like that don't deserve a Clack.
I mean, I complain a lot but at least I keep trying.
Post by: bueller on Sun, 18 January 2015, 21:50:28
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I know, right? Took me almost 2 years to get my first Clack. Bunch of whiny Millennial's expecting everything to be easy and handed to them. *****es like that don't deserve a Clack.
I mean, I complain a lot but at least I keep trying.
Yep. Took me a year to get my first Clack and Bro, bunch of *****es.
Post by: Dongulator on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:05:00
Post by: byker on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:06:42
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I can't wait to get my first clack! And I don't even have 200 posts yet! :D
I heard you have to pass 1000 posts before you are eligible. ;)
Post by: billnye on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:07:02
(http://i.imgur.com/2oX0F31.jpg)
Post by: Rotaku on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:09:33
Yeah as a person who actually started from /r/mk it makes sense why you guys don't like them too much. Like this is all from that thread: http://m.imgur.com/qPKtEqbWow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:10:01
I am pretty neutral towards this whole situation, just wanted to share how I see the things, then I'm out again.
Post by: exitfire401 on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:10:25
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I can't wait to get my first clack! And I don't even have 200 posts yet! :D
I heard you have to pass 1000 posts before you are eligible. ;)
Everyone over there keeps telling me I have to have some kind of "in" with the mods here to get one. Am I in yet?????
Post by: bueller on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:10:37
Post by: byker on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:11:39
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I can't wait to get my first clack! And I don't even have 200 posts yet! :D
I heard you have to pass 1000 posts before you are eligible. ;)
Everyone over there keeps telling me I have to have some kind of "in" with the mods here to get one. Am I in yet? ??? ?
You might want to check your spam. You probably missed your messages regarding your invitation to the secret clack sales. ;)
Post by: exitfire401 on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:12:42
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I can't wait to get my first clack! And I don't even have 200 posts yet! :D
I heard you have to pass 1000 posts before you are eligible. ;)
Everyone over there keeps telling me I have to have some kind of "in" with the mods here to get one. Am I in yet? ??? ?
You might want to check your spam. You probably missed your messages regarding your invitation to the secret clack sales. ;)
Wait...so you mean all this time, I didn't have to be Hoff's sexual slave?
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:13:33
The difference is that most people on Reddit don't want Clacks, they want something that looks like a Clack. Therefore they do not care about where it comes from or who created it as long as they can get something cool looking for a cheaper price.
I am pretty neutral towards this whole situation, just wanted to share how I see the things, then I'm out again.
And at GH we support community members, and CC is very much a community member!
Post by: byker on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:14:09
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I can't wait to get my first clack! And I don't even have 200 posts yet! :D
I heard you have to pass 1000 posts before you are eligible. ;)
Everyone over there keeps telling me I have to have some kind of "in" with the mods here to get one. Am I in yet? ??? ?
You might want to check your spam. You probably missed your messages regarding your invitation to the secret clack sales. ;)
Wait...so you mean all this time, I didn't have to be Hoff's sexual slave?
You gotta pay attention to the sales! Its all about naasfu's sexual slave :P Hoff is way to slow to win clacks. :p
Post by: Halverson on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:14:38
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I can't wait to get my first clack! And I don't even have 200 posts yet! :D
I heard you have to pass 1000 posts before you are eligible. ;)
Everyone over there keeps telling me I have to have some kind of "in" with the mods here to get one. Am I in yet?????
1000 posts!?!? Buddy up to mods, like that Hoffman guy? Ughhhhh, may as well just cry foreverrrr
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:15:17
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I can't wait to get my first clack! And I don't even have 200 posts yet! :D
I heard you have to pass 1000 posts before you are eligible. ;)
Everyone over there keeps telling me I have to have some kind of "in" with the mods here to get one. Am I in yet?????
Seriously! If you post any artisans on reddit you get comments about being it the GH "inner circle"
Post by: Halverson on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:16:16
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I can't wait to get my first clack! And I don't even have 200 posts yet! :D
I heard you have to pass 1000 posts before you are eligible. ;)
Everyone over there keeps telling me I have to have some kind of "in" with the mods here to get one. Am I in yet?????
Seriously! If you post any artisans on reddit you get comments about being it the GH "inner circle"
Am I in the circle? It's a trust circle right? Like marriage?
Post by: exitfire401 on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:16:42
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I can't wait to get my first clack! And I don't even have 200 posts yet! :D
I heard you have to pass 1000 posts before you are eligible. ;)
Everyone over there keeps telling me I have to have some kind of "in" with the mods here to get one. Am I in yet?????
Seriously! If you post any artisans on reddit you get comments about being it the GH "inner circle"
Haha, I take it you saw my last album post over there.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:17:24
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I can't wait to get my first clack! And I don't even have 200 posts yet! :D
I heard you have to pass 1000 posts before you are eligible. ;)
Everyone over there keeps telling me I have to have some kind of "in" with the mods here to get one. Am I in yet?????
Seriously! If you post any artisans on reddit you get comments about being it the GH "inner circle"
Haha, I take it you saw my last album post over there.
Yeah and I got stuff like that when I posted my Bros.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:17:40
I thought it was all :triangle:
Post by: trizkut on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:17:54
Haha, I take it you saw my last album post over there.
exitfire is a mod and got 3 bros in the winter sale. Grab your pitchforks! :))
Post by: Halverson on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:18:10
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:18:28
Not sure if it's real or fake, but it was posted by k3kc.
I think it's a fake, there's a few differences between the two.
Post by: exitfire401 on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:18:43
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I can't wait to get my first clack! And I don't even have 200 posts yet! :D
I heard you have to pass 1000 posts before you are eligible. ;)
Everyone over there keeps telling me I have to have some kind of "in" with the mods here to get one. Am I in yet?????
Seriously! If you post any artisans on reddit you get comments about being it the GH "inner circle"
Haha, I take it you saw my last album post over there.
Yeah and I got stuff like that when I posted my Bros.
For anyone that missed the fun,
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2s8xfk/got_a_request_for_a_picture_of_my_race_2_without/cnnf0y3
Post by: bowji on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:19:09
The difference is that most people on Reddit don't want Clacks, they want something that looks like a Clack. Therefore they do not care about where it comes from or who created it as long as they can get something cool looking for a cheaper price.
I am pretty neutral towards this whole situation, just wanted to share how I see the things, then I'm out again.
I consider myself new to this keycap hobby but even I find this obnoxious...
Undermining the artist and other collectors by claiming K3 is the real deal with a price tag similar to CF(original retail) is ignorant.
As an artwork admirer, I understand the desire for a replica. For those who cant afford a Van Gogh(or any other artist) painting there are poster reprints that sells for a few bucks. If K3 can acknowledge his/her **** are fake and sell them dirt cheap, while giving full credit to CF, this will give some leeway in this discussion but to not do so is just disrespectful.
Hopefully, this will just give more publicity for CF.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:19:42
Haha, I take it you saw my last album post over there.
exitfire is a mod and got 3 bros in the winter sale. Grab your pitchforks! :))
Yeah, I heard that he spent time contributing to GH and has entered a ton of Bro sales. He doesn't deserve those.
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I can't wait to get my first clack! And I don't even have 200 posts yet! :D
I heard you have to pass 1000 posts before you are eligible. ;)
Everyone over there keeps telling me I have to have some kind of "in" with the mods here to get one. Am I in yet?????
Seriously! If you post any artisans on reddit you get comments about being it the GH "inner circle"
Haha, I take it you saw my last album post over there.
Yeah and I got stuff like that when I posted my Bros.
For anyone that missed the fun,
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2s8xfk/got_a_request_for_a_picture_of_my_race_2_without/cnnf0y3
:blank:
Post by: demik on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:25:58
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I know, right? Took me almost 2 years to get my first Clack. Bunch of whiny Millennial's expecting everything to be easy and handed to them. *****es like that don't deserve a Clack.
I mean, I complain a lot but at least I keep trying.
oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack? you were literally handed a cc BY clack himself, BECAUSE of your complaining. and now people that complain don't deserve it? you have some nerve dude.
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:28:03
oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.That's a strong par.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack?
Shots fired.
Post by: Rotaku on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:29:43
*pew pew*oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.That's a strong par.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack?
Shots fired.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:32:28
Everyone over there keeps telling me I have to have some kind of "in" with the mods here to get one. Am I in yet?????
Wait. What?? How would an in with mods help?? Mods don't make the damn things... :confused:
You might want to check your spam. You probably missed your messages regarding your invitation to the secret clack sales. ;)Wait...so you mean all this time, I didn't have to be Hoff's sexual slave?
Is that the only reason people pretend to like me? :'(
You gotta pay attention to the sales! Its all about naasfu's sexual slave :P Hoff is way to slow to win clacks. :p
Oh... :( But I thought mods got all the Clacks! :confused: :confused: :confused:
1000 posts!?!? Buddy up to mods, like that Hoffman guy? Ughhhhh, may as well just cry foreverrrr
:'( (again)
For anyone that missed the fun,
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2s8xfk/got_a_request_for_a_picture_of_my_race_2_without/cnnf0y3
Fun is one way to describe that.
This thread is fun!
Post by: demik on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:32:56
oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.That's a strong par.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack?
Shots fired.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50614.msg1106638#msg1106638
not like im lying.
i mean ****, i agree with him about people crying about not being able to get **** not deserving anything. but he's the last person to say what he said.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:34:15
oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.That's a strong par.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack?
Shots fired.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50614.msg1106638#msg1106638
not like im lying.
i mean ****, i agree with him about people crying about not being able to get **** no deserving anything. but he's the last person to say what he said.
Now there's a blast from the past. So many old faces in that thread.
Post by: bueller on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:35:52
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I can't wait to get my first clack! And I don't even have 200 posts yet! :D
I heard you have to pass 1000 posts before you are eligible. ;)
Everyone over there keeps telling me I have to have some kind of "in" with the mods here to get one. Am I in yet?????
Seriously! If you post any artisans on reddit you get comments about being it the GH "inner circle"
Haha, I take it you saw my last album post over there.
Yeah and I got stuff like that when I posted my Bros.
For anyone that missed the fun,
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2s8xfk/got_a_request_for_a_picture_of_my_race_2_without/cnnf0y3
What a ****. Ohhhh you aren't willing to sell the items you worked so hard to obtain?!?!?! YOU MONSTER!
**** these people.
Post by: exitfire401 on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:36:01
oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.That's a strong par.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack?
Shots fired.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50614.msg1106638#msg1106638
not like im lying.
i mean ****, i agree with him about people crying about not being able to get **** no deserving anything. but he's the last person to say what he said.
Now there's a blast from the past. So many old faces in that thread.
Yeah...some of those guys have been gone since before I stopped lurking. Damn haha.
Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:36:13
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I know, right? Took me almost 2 years to get my first Clack. Bunch of whiny Millennial's expecting everything to be easy and handed to them. *****es like that don't deserve a Clack.
I mean, I complain a lot but at least I keep trying.
oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack? you were literally handed a cc BY clack himself, BECAUSE of your complaining. and now people that complain don't deserve it? you have some nerve dude.
Post by: Michael on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:37:46
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I know, right? Took me almost 2 years to get my first Clack. Bunch of whiny Millennial's expecting everything to be easy and handed to them. *****es like that don't deserve a Clack.
I mean, I complain a lot but at least I keep trying.
oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack? you were literally handed a cc BY clack himself, BECAUSE of your complaining. and now people that complain don't deserve it? you have some nerve dude.
(http://i.imgur.com/5UQ6iXe.gif)
Post by: redskull on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:38:04
Post by: strict on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:38:05
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
+1
I was downvoted into oblivion for saying the k3's look like **** and that people should support only the original artist.
Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:38:10
oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.That's a strong par.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack?
Shots fired.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50614.msg1106638#msg1106638
not like im lying.
i mean ****, i agree with him about people crying about not being able to get **** not deserving anything. but he's the last person to say what he said.
Oh and by the way, didn't you score a clack from that post/similar post as well? From CC himself?
Yeah.
Post by: demik on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:39:03
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I know, right? Took me almost 2 years to get my first Clack. Bunch of whiny Millennial's expecting everything to be easy and handed to them. *****es like that don't deserve a Clack.
I mean, I complain a lot but at least I keep trying.
oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack? you were literally handed a cc BY clack himself, BECAUSE of your complaining. and now people that complain don't deserve it? you have some nerve dude.
and your point is?
how about your hypocrisy about ebay price? yet you had this up before
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50517.msg1103121#msg1103121
so, miss me with that holier than thou bull**** attitude you've picked up ever since you got clacks.
oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.That's a strong par.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack?
Shots fired.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50614.msg1106638#msg1106638
not like im lying.
i mean ****, i agree with him about people crying about not being able to get **** not deserving anything. but he's the last person to say what he said.
Oh and by the way, didn't you score a clack from that post/similar post as well? From CC himself?
Yeah.
wtf is your point? did i beg for a CC and throw a pity party? i made a WTB thread, and CC was cool enough to sell me a CC.
Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:40:25
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I know, right? Took me almost 2 years to get my first Clack. Bunch of whiny Millennial's expecting everything to be easy and handed to them. *****es like that don't deserve a Clack.
I mean, I complain a lot but at least I keep trying.
oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack? you were literally handed a cc BY clack himself, BECAUSE of your complaining. and now people that complain don't deserve it? you have some nerve dude.
and your point is?
how about your hypocrisy about ebay price? yet you had this up before
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50517.msg1103121#msg1103121
so, miss me with that holier than thou bull**** attitude you've picked up ever since you got clacks.oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.That's a strong par.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack?
Shots fired.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50614.msg1106638#msg1106638
not like im lying.
i mean ****, i agree with him about people crying about not being able to get **** not deserving anything. but he's the last person to say what he said.
Oh and by the way, didn't you score a clack from that post/similar post as well? From CC himself?
Yeah.
wtf is your point? did i beg for a CC and throw a pity party? i made a WTB thread, and CC was cool enough to sell me a CC.
How that Vader you got? Enjoying it?
Post by: Michael on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:40:38
Post by: demik on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:42:12
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I know, right? Took me almost 2 years to get my first Clack. Bunch of whiny Millennial's expecting everything to be easy and handed to them. *****es like that don't deserve a Clack.
I mean, I complain a lot but at least I keep trying.
oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack? you were literally handed a cc BY clack himself, BECAUSE of your complaining. and now people that complain don't deserve it? you have some nerve dude.
and your point is?
how about your hypocrisy about ebay price? yet you had this up before
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50517.msg1103121#msg1103121
so, miss me with that holier than thou bull**** attitude you've picked up ever since you got clacks.oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.That's a strong par.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack?
Shots fired.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50614.msg1106638#msg1106638
not like im lying.
i mean ****, i agree with him about people crying about not being able to get **** not deserving anything. but he's the last person to say what he said.
Oh and by the way, didn't you score a clack from that post/similar post as well? From CC himself?
Yeah.
wtf is your point? did i beg for a CC and throw a pity party? i made a WTB thread, and CC was cool enough to sell me a CC.
How that Vader you got? Enjoying it?
nope, never got to enjoy it because i never got around to buying an MX keyboard. again, what's your point? to move away from the topic of you being a whiny ***** with a holier than thou attitude now?
do you want to know who has it now? i aint got **** to hide son.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:42:17
somebody be a doll and sell me an all black reaper kthx
:blank:
:-* <3 u demik
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:43:18
Depending on your definition of whining.......somebody be a doll and sell me an all black reaper kthx
:blank:
:-* <3 u demik
That's a loose as **** definition of whining.
Post by: Michael on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:43:29
Post by: The_Beast on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:43:43
Depending on your definition of whining.......somebody be a doll and sell me an all black reaper kthx
:blank:
:-* <3 u demik
That's a loose as **** definition of whining.
hooff likes it loose as ****....
Post by: demik on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:43:48
Depending on your definition of whining.......somebody be a doll and sell me an all black reaper kthx
:blank:
:-* <3 u demik
again, and? did i throw a pity party about missing x amount of sales? nah, i asked somebody if they wanted to sell. are WTB now pity parties? if so, noted.
Post by: Halverson on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:44:18
Depending on your definition of whining.......somebody be a doll and sell me an all black reaper kthx
:blank:
:-* <3 u demik
I <3 you....you jerk!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:45:07
demik, you know I love you. Obviously you didn't make a thread to whine, and yes it's a loose as **** definition. Let's all be friends again. :-*
Post by: Halverson on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:45:15
Post by: demik on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:45:41
Whoa, these last few posters.....WHERE IS KIRKLE? D SQUAD, UNITE!
too soon bro :(
RIP KIRKLE
Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:45:47
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I know, right? Took me almost 2 years to get my first Clack. Bunch of whiny Millennial's expecting everything to be easy and handed to them. *****es like that don't deserve a Clack.
I mean, I complain a lot but at least I keep trying.
oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack? you were literally handed a cc BY clack himself, BECAUSE of your complaining. and now people that complain don't deserve it? you have some nerve dude.
and your point is?
how about your hypocrisy about ebay price? yet you had this up before
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50517.msg1103121#msg1103121
so, miss me with that holier than thou bull**** attitude you've picked up ever since you got clacks.oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.That's a strong par.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack?
Shots fired.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50614.msg1106638#msg1106638
not like im lying.
i mean ****, i agree with him about people crying about not being able to get **** not deserving anything. but he's the last person to say what he said.
Oh and by the way, didn't you score a clack from that post/similar post as well? From CC himself?
Yeah.
wtf is your point? did i beg for a CC and throw a pity party? i made a WTB thread, and CC was cool enough to sell me a CC.
How that Vader you got? Enjoying it?
nope, never got to enjoy it because i never got around to buying an MX keyboard. again, what's your point? to move away from the topic of you being a whiny ***** with a holier than thou attitude now?
do you want to know who has it now? i aint got **** to hide son.
neither do I. Not entirely sure why you just up and decide to attack another member with something you yourself did based off of my getting an OG tri. You'd have never posted that (and btw copypasted my own begging thread) and gotten **** if I hadn't put CC in a generous mood. Who got him to open up and fire lasers? I did, son. And how many people got zapp'ed and got a direct hook up because of it? A ****ing lot. So keep your hypocritical whiny bull**** to yourself next time.
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:45:59
yeah definitely loose buttholeDepending on your definition of whining.......somebody be a doll and sell me an all black reaper kthx
:blank:
:-* <3 u demik
That's a loose as **** definition of whining.
Post by: Michael on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:46:18
Post by: Michael on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:46:49
Whoa, these last few posters.....WHERE IS KIRKLE? D SQUAD, UNITE!
too soon bro :(
RIP KIRKLE
RIP IN PEACE
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:47:05
yeah definitely loose buttholeDepending on your definition of whining.......somebody be a doll and sell me an all black reaper kthx
:blank:
:-* <3 u demik
That's a loose as **** definition of whining.
^-^
Post by: Halverson on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:47:17
Post by: demik on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:47:22
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I know, right? Took me almost 2 years to get my first Clack. Bunch of whiny Millennial's expecting everything to be easy and handed to them. *****es like that don't deserve a Clack.
I mean, I complain a lot but at least I keep trying.
oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack? you were literally handed a cc BY clack himself, BECAUSE of your complaining. and now people that complain don't deserve it? you have some nerve dude.
and your point is?
how about your hypocrisy about ebay price? yet you had this up before
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50517.msg1103121#msg1103121
so, miss me with that holier than thou bull**** attitude you've picked up ever since you got clacks.oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.That's a strong par.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack?
Shots fired.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50614.msg1106638#msg1106638
not like im lying.
i mean ****, i agree with him about people crying about not being able to get **** not deserving anything. but he's the last person to say what he said.
Oh and by the way, didn't you score a clack from that post/similar post as well? From CC himself?
Yeah.
wtf is your point? did i beg for a CC and throw a pity party? i made a WTB thread, and CC was cool enough to sell me a CC.
How that Vader you got? Enjoying it?
nope, never got to enjoy it because i never got around to buying an MX keyboard. again, what's your point? to move away from the topic of you being a whiny ***** with a holier than thou attitude now?
do you want to know who has it now? i aint got **** to hide son.
neither do I. Not entirely sure why you just up and decide to attack another member with something you yourself did based off of my getting an OG tri. You'd have never posted that (and btw copypasted my own begging thread) and gotten **** if I hadn't put CC in a generous mood. Who got him to open up and fire lasers? I did, son. And how many people got zapp'ed and got a direct hook up because of it? A ****ing lot. So keep your hypocritical whiny bull**** to yourself next time.
lmao. right, i guess i should thank you for the actions of another person. that makes total sense.
i got tired of your stupid ass attitude concerning other's ways of getting stuff, as if you're some ****ing saint. you ***** about high prices, yet sit there and offer high prices. you complain about people not deserving **** because they complain about not getting a chance/having bad luck.. yet that's how you originally got a CC. and i copy and pasted what? don't forget kmiller was the one that made a similar WTB mocking you, not me. i made a simple wtb hack orange/vader. and cc sold me it. no pity party here kid.
Post by: Michael on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:47:37
Ok, the arguing needs to continue, I want to see how many gifs of popcorn eating bro has
(http://i.imgur.com/3t63g.gif)
Post by: Halverson on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:47:58
Whoa, these last few posters.....WHERE IS KIRKLE? D SQUAD, UNITE!
too soon bro :(
RIP KIRKLE
RIP IN PEACE
May he rest well with his melted mint gum click clack
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:48:37
MoreWow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I know, right? Took me almost 2 years to get my first Clack. Bunch of whiny Millennial's expecting everything to be easy and handed to them. *****es like that don't deserve a Clack.
I mean, I complain a lot but at least I keep trying.
oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack? you were literally handed a cc BY clack himself, BECAUSE of your complaining. and now people that complain don't deserve it? you have some nerve dude.
and your point is?
how about your hypocrisy about ebay price? yet you had this up before
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50517.msg1103121#msg1103121
so, miss me with that holier than thou bull**** attitude you've picked up ever since you got clacks.oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.That's a strong par.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack?
Shots fired.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50614.msg1106638#msg1106638
not like im lying.
i mean ****, i agree with him about people crying about not being able to get **** not deserving anything. but he's the last person to say what he said.
Oh and by the way, didn't you score a clack from that post/similar post as well? From CC himself?
Yeah.
wtf is your point? did i beg for a CC and throw a pity party? i made a WTB thread, and CC was cool enough to sell me a CC.
How that Vader you got? Enjoying it?
nope, never got to enjoy it because i never got around to buying an MX keyboard. again, what's your point? to move away from the topic of you being a whiny ***** with a holier than thou attitude now?
do you want to know who has it now? i aint got **** to hide son.
neither do I. Not entirely sure why you just up and decide to attack another member with something you yourself did based off of my getting an OG tri. You'd have never posted that (and btw copypasted my own begging thread) and gotten **** if I hadn't put CC in a generous mood. Who got him to open up and fire lasers? I did, son. And how many people got zapp'ed and got a direct hook up because of it? A ****ing lot. So keep your hypocritical whiny bull**** to yourself next time.
Jesus, speaking of x as ****, here's some delusional as ****. WTB threads = pity parties and noisyturtle is the reason for lasers now...
Noisyturtle: Most Delusional GHer NA 2015
Whoa, these last few posters.....WHERE IS KIRKLE? D SQUAD, UNITE!
too soon bro :(
RIP KIRKLE
Kirkle best GHer NA 2015
Jokes, guys, jokes!
demik, you know I love you. Obviously you didn't make a thread to whine, and yes it's a loose as **** definition. Let's all be friends again. :-*
OMG I WOULD NEVER BE FRIENDS WITH A CHEESEHEAD!!!
Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:48:53
Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I know, right? Took me almost 2 years to get my first Clack. Bunch of whiny Millennial's expecting everything to be easy and handed to them. *****es like that don't deserve a Clack.
I mean, I complain a lot but at least I keep trying.
oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack? you were literally handed a cc BY clack himself, BECAUSE of your complaining. and now people that complain don't deserve it? you have some nerve dude.
and your point is?
how about your hypocrisy about ebay price? yet you had this up before
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50517.msg1103121#msg1103121
so, miss me with that holier than thou bull**** attitude you've picked up ever since you got clacks.oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.That's a strong par.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack?
Shots fired.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50614.msg1106638#msg1106638
not like im lying.
i mean ****, i agree with him about people crying about not being able to get **** not deserving anything. but he's the last person to say what he said.
Oh and by the way, didn't you score a clack from that post/similar post as well? From CC himself?
Yeah.
wtf is your point? did i beg for a CC and throw a pity party? i made a WTB thread, and CC was cool enough to sell me a CC.
How that Vader you got? Enjoying it?
nope, never got to enjoy it because i never got around to buying an MX keyboard. again, what's your point? to move away from the topic of you being a whiny ***** with a holier than thou attitude now?
do you want to know who has it now? i aint got **** to hide son.
neither do I. Not entirely sure why you just up and decide to attack another member with something you yourself did based off of my getting an OG tri. You'd have never posted that (and btw copypasted my own begging thread) and gotten **** if I hadn't put CC in a generous mood. Who got him to open up and fire lasers? I did, son. And how many people got zapp'ed and got a direct hook up because of it? A ****ing lot. So keep your hypocritical whiny bull**** to yourself next time.
lmao. right, i guess i should thank you for the actions of another person. that makes total sense.
See? That's all you needed to do.
You are very welcome.
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:48:54
(http://i.giphy.com/OCgTKYSVnf7iM.gif)Wow, they are really happy to defend an uncreative thief over on /r/mk
wtf is wrong with people?
But I want a clack and I'm not dedicated to this hobby at all nor do I respect artists! :blank: :-X
These past few months I've given up on reddit.
Yeah I love hearing "oh but I want a Clack but they're too expensive/hard to get at retail". Yeah, no ****. That's why they're hard to find ****wit. If you had any semblance of patience you'd get one eventually.
I know, right? Took me almost 2 years to get my first Clack. Bunch of whiny Millennial's expecting everything to be easy and handed to them. *****es like that don't deserve a Clack.
I mean, I complain a lot but at least I keep trying.
oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack? you were literally handed a cc BY clack himself, BECAUSE of your complaining. and now people that complain don't deserve it? you have some nerve dude.
and your point is?
how about your hypocrisy about ebay price? yet you had this up before
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50517.msg1103121#msg1103121
so, miss me with that holier than thou bull**** attitude you've picked up ever since you got clacks.oh jesus please ****ing tell me you're joking.That's a strong par.
did you forget your whiny post about not ever winning a clack?
Shots fired.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50614.msg1106638#msg1106638
not like im lying.
i mean ****, i agree with him about people crying about not being able to get **** not deserving anything. but he's the last person to say what he said.
Oh and by the way, didn't you score a clack from that post/similar post as well? From CC himself?
Yeah.
wtf is your point? did i beg for a CC and throw a pity party? i made a WTB thread, and CC was cool enough to sell me a CC.
How that Vader you got? Enjoying it?
nope, never got to enjoy it because i never got around to buying an MX keyboard. again, what's your point? to move away from the topic of you being a whiny ***** with a holier than thou attitude now?
do you want to know who has it now? i aint got **** to hide son.
neither do I. Not entirely sure why you just up and decide to attack another member with something you yourself did based off of my getting an OG tri. You'd have never posted that (and btw copypasted my own begging thread) and gotten **** if I hadn't put CC in a generous mood. Who got him to open up and fire lasers? I did, son. And how many people got zapp'ed and got a direct hook up because of it? A ****ing lot. So keep your hypocritical whiny bull**** to yourself next time.
lmao. right, i guess i should thank you for the actions of another person. that makes total sense.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:49:00
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Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gR2oeu0.gif)
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hIvqK.jpg)
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5s4kkZ1.gif)
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3t63g.gif)
Bro, if you don't slow down, you're gonna eat more popcorn than I did last night! ^-^
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:54:51
mfw based demik goes off
Post by: IPT on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:55:58
Post by: Michael on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:56:53
(Attachment Link)
mfw based demik goes off
(http://i.imgur.com/8qcy3Wj.jpg)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:56:54
Post by: exitfire401 on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:57:12
how about new rule, if you can't afford food you can't be buying clacks.
Instructions unclear...**** caught in food stamps.
Post by: demik on Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:59:23
The bashing in this thread should stop here, too. Obviously this is a place to discuss the fake clacks, and not a place to insult users for whatever they might be doing (unless it's related). So let's keep that to PMs, mmkay?
im done
Post by: Mandolin on Sun, 18 January 2015, 23:01:03
Quote
I came across your post a couple days ago, and I think your work's amazing. I have been looking for a few specific kinds of keycaps recently, (scull, gas mask, brobot, etc...) and I was wondering if you would be willing to replicate some? I love the ones you make (the chihuahua especially) but I'm looking for more simplistic caps, and I thought if anyone could replicate them, it'd be you. If you'd consider doing this, just PM me back. Thanks for your time!
T4COF4CE
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 18 January 2015, 23:02:21
The bashing in this thread should stop here, too. Obviously this is a place to discuss the fake clacks, and not a place to insult users for whatever they might be doing (unless it's related). So let's keep that to PMs, mmkay?
Wow
Very clack
Such mod
Many rule Such bash
Wow
so arbitrate. Many keyboard
So artisan. Wow
Ahem. Serious discussion only. Got it.
Post by: PunksDead on Sun, 18 January 2015, 23:02:54
The bashing in this thread should stop here, too. Obviously this is a place to discuss the fake clacks, and not a place to insult users for whatever they might be doing (unless it's related). So let's keep that to PMs, mmkay?
(http://i.imgur.com/0xghVIh.gif)
the Hoff has arrived!
Post by: ekw808 on Sun, 18 January 2015, 23:02:58
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 18 January 2015, 23:03:23
So, things like this happen in reddit. I received this message a while ago:QuoteI came across your post a couple days ago, and I think your work's amazing. I have been looking for a few specific kinds of keycaps recently, (scull, gas mask, brobot, etc...) and I was wondering if you would be willing to replicate some? I love the ones you make (the chihuahua especially) but I'm looking for more simplistic caps, and I thought if anyone could replicate them, it'd be you. If you'd consider doing this, just PM me back. Thanks for your time!
T4COF4CE
Good on you for not doing that. Reddit is full of scumbags rofl.
Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 18 January 2015, 23:03:46
how about new rule, if you can't afford food you can't be buying clacks.(http://i.giphy.com/wRttO7Ci43ks0.gif)
Post by: noisyturtle on Sun, 18 January 2015, 23:05:06
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 18 January 2015, 23:08:45
does the vader design belong exclusively to CC? i know the his skulls are his copyrighted trademark.
No, Vader is Lucas' now Disney's IP. That said, this particular iteration is Clack's interpretation of it and, once again, K3 just cloned it.
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 18 January 2015, 23:17:33
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Bro, if you don't slow down, you're gonna eat more popcorn than I did last night! ^-^
I love Bro's GIF, don't you stop him, Hoff!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 18 January 2015, 23:19:47
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Bro, if you don't slow down, you're gonna eat more popcorn than I did last night! ^-^
I love Bro's GIF, don't you stop him, Hoff!
I'm not! I'm just telling him he's eating a lot of popcorn. :D He can keep going!
Post by: Michael on Sun, 18 January 2015, 23:41:21
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Bro, if you don't slow down, you're gonna eat more popcorn than I did last night! ^-^
I love Bro's GIF, don't you stop him, Hoff!
I'm not! I'm just telling him he's eating a lot of popcorn. :D He can keep going!
(http://i.imgur.com/1Mi9hTw.gif)
Post by: Halverson on Sun, 18 January 2015, 23:56:10
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5UQ6iXe.gif)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gR2oeu0.gif)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hIvqK.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5s4kkZ1.gif)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3t63g.gif)
Bro, if you don't slow down, you're gonna eat more popcorn than I did last night! ^-^
I love Bro's GIF, don't you stop him, Hoff!
I'm not! I'm just telling him he's eating a lot of popcorn. :D He can keep going!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1Mi9hTw.gif)
I'm going to dream of brobots eating all the worlds supply of popcorn
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 19 January 2015, 03:50:59
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 19 January 2015, 04:06:12
Does he need Ripester to give him idea's for colours or something?
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Mon, 19 January 2015, 08:06:33
I like how every fake he makes he posts it in original colours, like the brain dead child he is. His imagination can't even stretch to making his first clone in a diffrent colour, no instead we get to see how flawed each of his ****ty clones is before he sells them for the same price as CC...
Does he need Ripester to give him idea's for colours or something?
AFAIK he's done some original colors?
Notably the Amethyst set.
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 19 January 2015, 08:22:37
I like how every fake he makes he posts it in original colours, like the brain dead child he is. His imagination can't even stretch to making his first clone in a diffrent colour, no instead we get to see how flawed each of his ****ty clones is before he sells them for the same price as CC...
Does he need Ripester to give him idea's for colours or something?
AFAIK he's done some original colors?
Notably the Amethyst set.
wasn't that after he had already made fakes though? I thought the first batch he did where the ones sold as real clacks and then he came out with his own 'brand' and then made awful looking ****??
Post by: exitfire401 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 08:57:41
I like how every fake he makes he posts it in original colours, like the brain dead child he is. His imagination can't even stretch to making his first clone in a diffrent colour, no instead we get to see how flawed each of his ****ty clones is before he sells them for the same price as CC...
Does he need Ripester to give him idea's for colours or something?
AFAIK he's done some original colors?
Notably the Amethyst set.
wasn't that after he had already made fakes though? I thought the first batch he did where the ones sold as real clacks and then he came out with his own 'brand' and then made awful looking ****??
Luckily, he's been kind enough to use a k3 mark from the start. Even in his first sale that was the red blue and yellow ones. Just makes finding the **** easier.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 19 January 2015, 09:01:16
Post by: exitfire401 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 09:02:37
What is really disappointing is k3 obviously has some skill at cap making, it is so sad he chose to copy/clone versus innovate. I think he could have really done something worthwhile had he came out with his own cap designs.
Agreed. For as much talent as he has, he could've made bank.
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Mon, 19 January 2015, 09:08:17
I like how every fake he makes he posts it in original colours, like the brain dead child he is. His imagination can't even stretch to making his first clone in a diffrent colour, no instead we get to see how flawed each of his ****ty clones is before he sells them for the same price as CC...
Does he need Ripester to give him idea's for colours or something?
AFAIK he's done some original colors?
Notably the Amethyst set.
wasn't that after he had already made fakes though? I thought the first batch he did where the ones sold as real clacks and then he came out with his own 'brand' and then made awful looking ****??
IIRC there was confusion about his first batch but there are clear visual indicators that show that the CCs were fakes (besides the fact that they were stamped with his signature instead of CF)
Post by: strict on Mon, 19 January 2015, 09:45:24
Post by: Sniping on Mon, 19 January 2015, 09:49:35
The stuff he has been public with has the K3 logo. There is nothing stopping him from producing stuff in the background with the FXE or CF logos and trying to flip them on eBay or somewhere else. If the guy is unscrupulous enough to rip off CC's entire portfolio of designs I don't see what would stop him from making keys with CC's logo on the bottom to try and make some bank.
I think that most people willing to pay aftermarket for a clack have been in this hobby for long enough to be able to tell the difference in quality between a k3kc keycap and a real one.
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 19 January 2015, 09:50:38
The stuff he has been public with has the K3 logo. There is nothing stopping him from producing stuff in the background with the FXE or CF logos and trying to flip them on eBay or somewhere else. If the guy is unscrupulous enough to rip off CC's entire portfolio of designs I don't see what would stop him from making keys with CC's logo on the bottom to try and make some bank.
I think that most people willing to pay aftermarket for a clack have been in this hobby for long enough to be able to tell the difference in quality between a k3kc keycap and a real one.
Which is kinda why this thread was made ;)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 19 January 2015, 09:52:45
The stuff he has been public with has the K3 logo. There is nothing stopping him from producing stuff in the background with the FXE or CF logos and trying to flip them on eBay or somewhere else. If the guy is unscrupulous enough to rip off CC's entire portfolio of designs I don't see what would stop him from making keys with CC's logo on the bottom to try and make some bank.
he did a few of those
as far as i know they never left veitnam and hasn't done any more since
at least that's what one of the veitnamese admins told me when i asked
could be bs, i never saw pics and he might've just wanted me to go away
The stuff he has been public with has the K3 logo. There is nothing stopping him from producing stuff in the background with the FXE or CF logos and trying to flip them on eBay or somewhere else. If the guy is unscrupulous enough to rip off CC's entire portfolio of designs I don't see what would stop him from making keys with CC's logo on the bottom to try and make some bank.
I think that most people willing to pay aftermarket for a clack have been in this hobby for long enough to be able to tell the difference in quality between a k3kc keycap and a real one.
Which is kinda why this thread was made ;)
FAKE clack discussion, you are correct
this is definitely not the therapy thread.
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 19 January 2015, 09:56:42
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 19 January 2015, 10:03:54
SORRY, I thought it was implied that I was talking about FAKE clacks...
i just woke up and that post was ass
my bad
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 19 January 2015, 10:20:10
Post by: Fire Brand on Mon, 19 January 2015, 10:20:49
Post by: Mandolin on Mon, 19 January 2015, 10:21:32
Original:
Color (hue): bluish-grey black
Color (alpha): high opacity.
Copy:
color (hue): reddish coca cola tinted black.
color (alpha): slightly transluscent (noticeable on the (1) edges and in (2) same elevation zone, the original bounces more light).
(http://i.imgur.com/VuhXzZN.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/rd6OD5Q.jpg)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 19 January 2015, 10:24:02
.-.
That upside down face tho
Post by: Fire Brand on Mon, 19 January 2015, 10:31:34
.-.
That upside down face tho
I always do it like that, you know you love it <3
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 19 January 2015, 11:03:17
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 19 January 2015, 11:03:48
So did he mold Clack's Vader or did he sculpt it himself? Seems like there are some minor differences, but there's only so many ways to make a Vader keycap...
Mold, edit, remold is my guess
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 19 January 2015, 11:13:36
So did he mold Clack's Vader or did he sculpt it himself? Seems like there are some minor differences, but there's only so many ways to make a Vader keycap...
Mold, edit, remold is my guess
Ayyy that really is crappy then. I wouldn't have as big an issue if he did his own scuplt from scratch. Appears he's still doing his same MO of wasting his talents ripping off others...God I hate fake crap. //resisting going on a fake crap rant
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 19 January 2015, 12:22:01
Post by: ice31000 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 12:49:18
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 19 January 2015, 12:53:02
If he would just put in a sliver of creativity in making his own molds I'm sure he could be one of the best artisan cap makers.
His credibility is shot...
His fan base credibility is shot...
And people still talk about him...reminds me of Geraldo Rivera, haha!
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 12:54:24
Post by: Michael on Mon, 19 January 2015, 12:56:40
Every single comment denouncing his counterfeits on reddit has been downvoted to hell. Like -20. I guess that's what happens when you get a bunch of casuals who don't feel like putting any effort into acquiring a rare item
(http://i.imgur.com/DXxOqmK.jpg)
Post by: slip84 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 12:59:35
Clearly someone on the other side of that window is eating popcorn.Every single comment denouncing his counterfeits on reddit has been downvoted to hell. Like -20. I guess that's what happens when you get a bunch of casuals who don't feel like putting any effort into acquiring a rare itemShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/DXxOqmK.jpg)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:01:26
Every single comment denouncing his counterfeits on reddit has been downvoted to hell. Like -20. I guess that's what happens when you get a bunch of casuals who don't feel like putting any effort into acquiring a rare item
It has nothing to do with being casuals and everything to do with a sense of entitlement. They all feel entitled to having one, so they support counterfeits so they can get one.
Post by: exitfire401 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:04:00
Every single comment denouncing his counterfeits on reddit has been downvoted to hell. Like -20. I guess that's what happens when you get a bunch of casuals who don't feel like putting any effort into acquiring a rare item
It also helps that k3 has about 12 accounts over there
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:04:41
Every single comment denouncing his counterfeits on reddit has been downvoted to hell. Like -20. I guess that's what happens when you get a bunch of casuals who don't feel like putting any effort into acquiring a rare item
It also helps that k3 has about 12 accounts over there
Maybe he has many siblings
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:05:27
Every single comment denouncing his counterfeits on reddit has been downvoted to hell. Like -20. I guess that's what happens when you get a bunch of casuals who don't feel like putting any effort into acquiring a rare item
That and the fact that ripster has made the whole of r/mk about how ****ty gh is and that the aftermarket price of clacks is essentially gh's fault and r/mk is just 'normal people' wanting these cool caps but geekwack is stopping them... etc etc etc
Every single comment denouncing his counterfeits on reddit has been downvoted to hell. Like -20. I guess that's what happens when you get a bunch of casuals who don't feel like putting any effort into acquiring a rare item
It also helps that k3 has about 12 accounts over there
Maybe he has many siblings
No wonder he had to up the price!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:08:58
Every single comment denouncing his counterfeits on reddit has been downvoted to hell. Like -20. I guess that's what happens when you get a bunch of casuals who don't feel like putting any effort into acquiring a rare item
That and the fact that ripster has made the whole of r/mk about how ****ty gh is and that the aftermarket price of clacks is essentially gh's fault and r/mk is just 'normal people' wanting these cool caps but geekwack is stopping them... etc etc etcEvery single comment denouncing his counterfeits on reddit has been downvoted to hell. Like -20. I guess that's what happens when you get a bunch of casuals who don't feel like putting any effort into acquiring a rare item
It also helps that k3 has about 12 accounts over there
Maybe he has many siblings
No wonder he had to up the price!
yeah like the recent ebay auctions with stupid prices all the r/mk people are like, 'those are regular prices on geekhack, so we better buy the fakes they are only $40'..... :facepalm:
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:16:06
(http://i.imgur.com/WHQbxO2.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/uTcfeOX.png)
and pretty much the only reasonable person in the thread gets raped with downvotes:
(http://i.imgur.com/PcJeO2p.png)
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:26:01
The color differences are noticeable, taking the HSV + alpha channel color characterization.
Original:
Color (hue): bluish-grey black
Color (alpha): high opacity.
Copy:
color (hue): reddish coca cola tinted black.
color (alpha): slightly transluscent (noticeable on the (1) edges and in (2) same elevation zone, the original bounces more light).Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/VuhXzZN.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rd6OD5Q.jpg)
Isn't this a Lucasfilm issue in terms of copyright or trademark?
Just curious...
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:42:48
Isn't this a Lucasfilm issue in terms of copyright or trademark?
Just curious...
Yes, and this is the argument that K3 and his supporters make. That if Clack "ripped off" Lucasfilm (now Disney) of their IP, then he deserves to have the same done to him.
However, the problem with this logic is that, while the Vader image is owned by Disney, they weren't already producing an MX keycap with the image, which Clack copied. He sculpted the keycap himself, based upon other visual representations of Vader. So it's not as if Clack just made a mold of an already extant product and copied it to sell and make profit, which is exactly what K3 is doing.
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:46:26
Isn't this a Lucasfilm issue in terms of copyright or trademark?
Just curious...
Yes, and this is the argument that K3 and his supporters make. That if Clack "ripped off" Lucasfilm (now Disney) of their IP, then he deserves to have the same done to him.
However, the problem with this logic is that, while the Vader image is owned by Disney, they weren't already producing an MX keycap with the image, which Clack copied. He sculpted the keycap himself, based upon other visual representations of Vader. So it's not as if Clack just made a mold of an already extant product and copied it to sell and make profit, which is exactly what K3 is doing.
Oh. So, Lucas is cool with the original molding of the Clack? It doesn't step on any IP toes?
If it is cool, then that opens doors for my own ideas, mwahahahahahahaahahaha!
Post by: slip84 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:49:16
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:50:02
Like JD said, the issue is that K3 just straight up copies other people's work. There's no originality or novel designs, it's just stealing the work of others. Clack and Bro both put work into theirs, they sculpted the designs and did all the work. K3 just tosses some clay in the base, stamps it as his, then rips them off and sells them..
Post by: intelli78 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:51:16
Post by: 00zeRO on Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:52:59
I would imagine that, given the number available, it never even was a blip on their lawyer army's radar.
Ah
Lucas, now Disney, never gave permission, but they also never acted against it. So that doesn't mean that it doesn't step on any IP toes, but it also doesn't mean that they're okay with it.
Like JD said, the issue is that K3 just straight up copies other people's work. There's no originality or novel designs, it's just stealing the work of others. Clack and Bro both put work into theirs, they sculpted the designs and made something of them.
Oh, I get it. I can't stand this K3 dude for what he does. I have nothing but respect for real artisans: Clack, Bro, Martin, etc.
I was just wondering about the copyright/trademark for my own ideas of what I may come up with should I ever try my hand at keycap sculpting magick...
In brief, CC may be in the wrong with the Vader cap, but it may be a legal gray area, or at the very least, isn't possibly causing any financial damages to Disney. On the other hand, K3KC is DEFINITELY wrong and is committing textbook copyright infringement. And as your mom always said, two wrongs don't make a right...
Agreed...
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 19 January 2015, 14:00:15
Reddit: where this **** gets upvoted:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/WHQbxO2.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/uTcfeOX.png)
and pretty much the only reasonable person in the thread gets raped with downvotes:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PcJeO2p.png)
This is my favorite. It's the same damn argument they use every time:
(http://i.imgur.com/PftPhtQ.png)
Since when is counterfeiting competing in a market segment? Competition is introducing something novel that *gasp* competes with another product and takes away market share because it is superior in price and/or quality and/or features. K3 does not compete, he counterfeits.
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 14:05:25
"But I was only counterfeiting money to create some competition with the government!"Reddit: where this **** gets upvoted:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/WHQbxO2.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/uTcfeOX.png)
and pretty much the only reasonable person in the thread gets raped with downvotes:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PcJeO2p.png)
This is my favorite. It's the same damn argument they use every time:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PftPhtQ.png)
Since when is counterfeiting competing in a market segment? Competition is introducing something novel that *gasp* competes with another product and takes away market share because it is superior in price and/or quality and/or features. K3 does not compete, he counterfeits.
Post by: Michael on Mon, 19 January 2015, 14:08:52
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 14:11:39
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 19 January 2015, 14:12:24
I honestly think that it's not even worth replying in those threads. Let them circlejerk about what they want to believe, nothing will convince them to think differently.
It isn't. May as well go argue in YouTube comments.
Post by: slip84 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 14:13:38
I won one of those once. They sent me a plaque and everything.I honestly think that it's not even worth replying in those threads. Let them circlejerk about what they want to believe, nothing will convince them to think differently.
It isn't. May as well go argue in YouTube comments.
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 19 January 2015, 14:17:49
I won one of those once. They sent me a plaque and everything.I honestly think that it's not even worth replying in those threads. Let them circlejerk about what they want to believe, nothing will convince them to think differently.
It isn't. May as well go argue in YouTube comments.
Hah. I'm glad you survived it!
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 14:24:09
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 19 January 2015, 17:45:00
mfw I realize I missed out on the popcorn gif train...
(http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/05/Throw-popcorn-gif.gif)
Post by: Michael on Mon, 19 January 2015, 19:01:52
Just caught up on like 10 pages on this thread...
mfw I realize I missed out on the popcorn gif train...Show Image(http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/05/Throw-popcorn-gif.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/kwDbvEj.gif)
Post by: trizkut on Mon, 19 January 2015, 19:13:41
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/kwDbvEj.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/zvoYE7I.gif)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 19 January 2015, 19:22:19
Just caught up on like 10 pages on this thread...
mfw I realize I missed out on the popcorn gif train...Show Image(http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/05/Throw-popcorn-gif.gif)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/kwDbvEj.gif)
Dayum, bro. You got old eating popcorn.
Still young and hype over hurr.
(http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/04/GIF-Big-Bag-of-Popcorn.gif)
More
>vesper realizes he's the loser who appeared late to the party when it was ending and was overhyped like an idiot
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Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/kwDbvEj.gif)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zvoYE7I.gif)
You guys need to brighten up with the popcorn. The "pop" in popcorn is for fun and excitement!!!
(http://mlb.mlb.com/images/7/2/0/70988720/FanCatch1_jkesyipd.gif)
More
(http://i.imgur.com/nl2HnxI.gif?1)
Post by: Michael on Mon, 19 January 2015, 19:30:34
Just caught up on like 10 pages on this thread...
mfw I realize I missed out on the popcorn gif train...Show Image(http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/05/Throw-popcorn-gif.gif)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/kwDbvEj.gif)
Dayum, bro. You got old eating popcorn.
Still young and hype over hurr.Show Image(http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/04/GIF-Big-Bag-of-Popcorn.gif)More
>vesper realizes he's the loser who appeared late to the party when it was ending and was overhyped like an idiotShow Image(http://www.dippedincream.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/popcorn.gif)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/kwDbvEj.gif)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zvoYE7I.gif)
You guys need to brighten up with the popcorn. The "pop" in popcorn is for fun and excitement!!!Show Image(http://mlb.mlb.com/images/7/2/0/70988720/FanCatch1_jkesyipd.gif)MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/nl2HnxI.gif?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/mflCSoR.gif)
Post by: demik on Mon, 19 January 2015, 19:39:02
how not hoe but im leaving it
Post by: Michael on Mon, 19 January 2015, 19:44:22
hoe bidness works
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 19 January 2015, 20:02:46
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mflCSoR.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/8BqcV.gif)
yall mfers need your bidness degrees from reddit university so you can understand hoe bidness works
how not hoe but im leaving it
(http://i.minus.com/ibzaItiYY21DoT.gif)
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 20:14:09
lolwut
Post by: demik on Mon, 19 January 2015, 20:15:31
Post by: byker on Mon, 19 January 2015, 20:15:47
yall mfers need your bidness degrees from reddit university so you can understand hoe bidness works
how not hoe but im leaving it
Hoe bidness is important too demik
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 19 January 2015, 20:17:27
pinches pendejos amirite
What, dropping the puto?
Or, Ask a Mexican's favorite, pinche puto pendejo baboso.
Post by: Michael on Mon, 19 January 2015, 20:27:58
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CkeNoxX.png)
lolwut
Oh reddit.... u so crazy....
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 19 January 2015, 20:51:08
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CkeNoxX.png)
lolwut
Oh reddit.... u so crazy....
People, people are crazy. Heck, I'm crazy.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 19 January 2015, 21:10:15
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CkeNoxX.png)
lolwut
LOL, couldn't stop myself. :-X
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 21:23:39
Post by: trizkut on Mon, 19 January 2015, 21:25:23
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CkeNoxX.png)
lolwut
It sounds like that guy stole his opinion on clacks/bros from someone else but couldn't make sense of it
Post by: tbc on Mon, 19 January 2015, 22:19:13
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CkeNoxX.png)
lolwut
holy ****.
i hope he's only pretending to full retard.
reddit *** that thinks he's gone to university lmfao.
Post by: GSimon on Mon, 19 January 2015, 22:43:14
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 19 January 2015, 23:09:45
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Post by: slickmamba on Mon, 19 January 2015, 23:16:05
(http://i.imgur.com/ETrgc7r.png)
Stole your thunder nubssorry
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 19 January 2015, 23:20:14
Show Image(http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/07/seinfeld-popcorn-gif.gif)
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rbdVBp5.gif)
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mmmm delicious poopcorn
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Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 19 January 2015, 23:25:39
Bro be like:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ETrgc7r.png)
Stole your thunder nubssorry
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Post by: slip84 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 10:05:46
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Tue, 20 January 2015, 13:18:43
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Post by: Michael on Tue, 20 January 2015, 13:20:24
Is it too late to get in on this popcorn train?Show Image(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Maurice-Moss-Eating-Popcorn-The-IT-Crowd.gif)
It's never too late for popcorn gifs....
(http://i.imgur.com/UT9uh9J.gif)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 January 2015, 13:22:48
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 13:23:10
Is it too late to get in on this popcorn train?Show Image(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Maurice-Moss-Eating-Popcorn-The-IT-Crowd.gif)
It's never too late for popcorn gifs....Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UT9uh9J.gif)
What a relief!
(http://i.imgur.com/3RxGiWc.gif)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 January 2015, 13:24:55
someone identify that keyboard? :P
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 20 January 2015, 13:34:48
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Post by: IPT on Tue, 20 January 2015, 13:37:46
Post by: baldgye on Tue, 20 January 2015, 13:48:45
Post by: Michael on Tue, 20 January 2015, 13:57:27
Show Image(http://giffiles.alphacoders.com/510/5106.gif)Show Image(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o139/megsparker/JC-Wut/2w2qyhv.gif)Show Image(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/896/880/32b.gif)
Pace yourself. bro. Pace yourself.
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 20 January 2015, 13:59:10
Am I doing this right?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 13:59:59
Show Image(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110817182305/nickfanon/images/7/7b/Spongebob-gif-popcorn.gif)
Am I doing this right?
> CPTBadAss
> Spongebob
Yep, checks out.
Post by: VesperSAINT on Tue, 20 January 2015, 14:21:52
(http://www.sharegif.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/panda-gifpopcorn-gifreaction-gif.gif)
Post by: slip84 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 14:29:49
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 20 January 2015, 15:29:11
Is it too late to get in on this popcorn train?Show Image(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Maurice-Moss-Eating-Popcorn-The-IT-Crowd.gif)
It's never too late for popcorn gifs....Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UT9uh9J.gif)
What a relief!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3RxGiWc.gif)
That kinda looks like Paul Keating :))
Post by: VesperSAINT on Tue, 20 January 2015, 15:38:54
Is it too late to get in on this popcorn train?Show Image(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Maurice-Moss-Eating-Popcorn-The-IT-Crowd.gif)
It's never too late for popcorn gifs....Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UT9uh9J.gif)
What a relief!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3RxGiWc.gif)
That kinda looks like Paul Keating :))
HAHAHAHAHA. I got that joke... I lived in Australia during Paul Keating and the beginnings of John Howard.
Post by: IPT on Tue, 20 January 2015, 15:47:22
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:21:28
Post by: naasfu on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:22:15
Wasn't there a sight that claimed it was better than CC and it was exactly the same. Claimed it was a new release, a skull, 420 and something else if I remember correctly.no.
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:22:58
Wasn't there a sight that claimed it was better than CC and it was exactly the same. Claimed it was a new release, a skull, 420 and something else if I remember correctly.
K3 has always claimed that
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:23:06
I remember it selling red ones only. Rowdy posted a link. I just need to find it againWasn't there a sight that claimed it was better than CC and it was exactly the same. Claimed it was a new release, a skull, 420 and something else if I remember correctly.no.
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:23:41
That's what it was. Thanks lolWasn't there a sight that claimed it was better than CC and it was exactly the same. Claimed it was a new release, a skull, 420 and something else if I remember correctly.
K3 has always claimed that
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:24:40
Wasn't there a sight that claimed it was better than CC and it was exactly the same. Claimed it was a new release, a skull, 420 and something else if I remember correctly.
There continues to be a site, and the clown continues to promote these as copies that are better than the originals.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:25:40
You gonna go buy some?That's what it was. Thanks lolWasn't there a sight that claimed it was better than CC and it was exactly the same. Claimed it was a new release, a skull, 420 and something else if I remember correctly.
K3 has always claimed that
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:26:49
I remember it selling red ones only. Rowdy posted a link. I just need to find it againWasn't there a sight that claimed it was better than CC and it was exactly the same. Claimed it was a new release, a skull, 420 and something else if I remember correctly.no.
:confused:
Why do you want to find it again?
You do realize you're in a thread where we are talking about how much we dislike someone, and you've asked how to find their store...
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:28:31
I remember it selling red ones only. Rowdy posted a link. I just need to find it againWasn't there a sight that claimed it was better than CC and it was exactly the same. Claimed it was a new release, a skull, 420 and something else if I remember correctly.no.
:confused:
Why do you want to find it again?
You do realize you're in a thread where we are talking about how much we dislike someone, and you've asked how to find their store...
Not trying to go buy one... Sheesh... (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/52b44be5.gif)
It forgot about it, and got curious again.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:29:50
Sure #idontbeliveyou :rolleyes:I remember it selling red ones only. Rowdy posted a link. I just need to find it againWasn't there a sight that claimed it was better than CC and it was exactly the same. Claimed it was a new release, a skull, 420 and something else if I remember correctly.no.
:confused:
Why do you want to find it again?
You do realize you're in a thread where we are talking about how much we dislike someone, and you've asked how to find their store...
Not trying to go buy one... Sheesh...Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/52b44be5.gif)
It forgot about it, and got curious again.
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:30:57
Nah, I'm good. I'll stick to the blue theme on my board. Not into the red translucent from what I remember being on the site.Sure #idontbeliveyou :rolleyes:I remember it selling red ones only. Rowdy posted a link. I just need to find it againWasn't there a sight that claimed it was better than CC and it was exactly the same. Claimed it was a new release, a skull, 420 and something else if I remember correctly.no.
:confused:
Why do you want to find it again?
You do realize you're in a thread where we are talking about how much we dislike someone, and you've asked how to find their store...
Not trying to go buy one... Sheesh...Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/52b44be5.gif)
It forgot about it, and got curious again.
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:31:04
I remember it selling red ones only. Rowdy posted a link. I just need to find it againWasn't there a sight that claimed it was better than CC and it was exactly the same. Claimed it was a new release, a skull, 420 and something else if I remember correctly.no.
I post a lot of links, but I don't recall posting that one.
I would not deliberately post something that might be construed in any way as supporting this.
:eek:
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:32:51
Then I dunno who it was, all I remember is seeing the owner of the site call them buttons and being red, and also seeing your profile pic.I remember it selling red ones only. Rowdy posted a link. I just need to find it againWasn't there a sight that claimed it was better than CC and it was exactly the same. Claimed it was a new release, a skull, 420 and something else if I remember correctly.no.
I post a lot of links, but I don't recall posting that one.
I would not deliberately post something that might be construed in any way as supporting this.
:eek:
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:36:18
Then I dunno who it was, all I remember is seeing the owner of the site call them buttons and being red, and also seeing your profile pic.I remember it selling red ones only. Rowdy posted a link. I just need to find it againWasn't there a sight that claimed it was better than CC and it was exactly the same. Claimed it was a new release, a skull, 420 and something else if I remember correctly.no.
I post a lot of links, but I don't recall posting that one.
I would not deliberately post something that might be construed in any way as supporting this.
:eek:
My search-fu has found one post with the URL in it, and another analysing the domain ownership, neither from me :p
And in fact the ****head himself actually created an account here with the URL in it :rolleyes:
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:38:18
Now I'm wondering what thread I was in that it was posted in....Then I dunno who it was, all I remember is seeing the owner of the site call them buttons and being red, and also seeing your profile pic.I remember it selling red ones only. Rowdy posted a link. I just need to find it againWasn't there a sight that claimed it was better than CC and it was exactly the same. Claimed it was a new release, a skull, 420 and something else if I remember correctly.no.
I post a lot of links, but I don't recall posting that one.
I would not deliberately post something that might be construed in any way as supporting this.
:eek:
My search-fu has found one post with the URL in it, and another analysing the domain ownership, neither from me :p
And in fact the ****head himself actually created an account here with the URL in it :rolleyes:
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:38:54
Maybe it was redditNow I'm wondering what thread I was in that it was posted in....Then I dunno who it was, all I remember is seeing the owner of the site call them buttons and being red, and also seeing your profile pic.I remember it selling red ones only. Rowdy posted a link. I just need to find it againWasn't there a sight that claimed it was better than CC and it was exactly the same. Claimed it was a new release, a skull, 420 and something else if I remember correctly.no.
I post a lot of links, but I don't recall posting that one.
I would not deliberately post something that might be construed in any way as supporting this.
:eek:
My search-fu has found one post with the URL in it, and another analysing the domain ownership, neither from me :p
And in fact the ****head himself actually created an account here with the URL in it :rolleyes:
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:39:10
Now I'm wondering what thread I was in that it was posted in....Then I dunno who it was, all I remember is seeing the owner of the site call them buttons and being red, and also seeing your profile pic.I remember it selling red ones only. Rowdy posted a link. I just need to find it againWasn't there a sight that claimed it was better than CC and it was exactly the same. Claimed it was a new release, a skull, 420 and something else if I remember correctly.no.
I post a lot of links, but I don't recall posting that one.
I would not deliberately post something that might be construed in any way as supporting this.
:eek:
My search-fu has found one post with the URL in it, and another analysing the domain ownership, neither from me :p
And in fact the ****head himself actually created an account here with the URL in it :rolleyes:
If you can find a post from me with the URL in it, please let me know so I can remove it!
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:41:32
Doubt I will. I have no idea what thread that was though. Might have been this one, but I have no freaking idea. It was one of those temporary memories that get forgotten after a few days. Then I saw a red clack and I was like, "wasn't there some site that sold fake clacks?"Now I'm wondering what thread I was in that it was posted in....Then I dunno who it was, all I remember is seeing the owner of the site call them buttons and being red, and also seeing your profile pic.I remember it selling red ones only. Rowdy posted a link. I just need to find it againWasn't there a sight that claimed it was better than CC and it was exactly the same. Claimed it was a new release, a skull, 420 and something else if I remember correctly.no.
I post a lot of links, but I don't recall posting that one.
I would not deliberately post something that might be construed in any way as supporting this.
:eek:
My search-fu has found one post with the URL in it, and another analysing the domain ownership, neither from me :p
And in fact the ****head himself actually created an account here with the URL in it :rolleyes:
If you can find a post from me with the URL in it, please let me know so I can remove it!
So I'm here now.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:44:31
I remember it selling red ones only. Rowdy posted a link. I just need to find it againWasn't there a sight that claimed it was better than CC and it was exactly the same. Claimed it was a new release, a skull, 420 and something else if I remember correctly.no.
:confused:
Why do you want to find it again?
You do realize you're in a thread where we are talking about how much we dislike someone, and you've asked how to find their store...
Not trying to go buy one... Sheesh...Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/52b44be5.gif)
It forgot about it, and got curious again.
Hey, if it was an honest question then I'm sorry for attacking you like that, but surely you can see the problem with asking for the link in this thread? :-X
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:46:58
Funny, I read that as sarcasm :pI remember it selling red ones only. Rowdy posted a link. I just need to find it againWasn't there a sight that claimed it was better than CC and it was exactly the same. Claimed it was a new release, a skull, 420 and something else if I remember correctly.no.
:confused:
Why do you want to find it again?
You do realize you're in a thread where we are talking about how much we dislike someone, and you've asked how to find their store...
Not trying to go buy one... Sheesh...Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/52b44be5.gif)
It forgot about it, and got curious again.
Hey, if it was an honest question then I'm sorry for attacking you like that, but surely you can see the problem with asking for the link in this thread? :-X
I said need to find because I remember reading this (http://puu.sh/eNVQn/7eb08e149f.png)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:49:57
Funny, I read that as sarcasm :pI remember it selling red ones only. Rowdy posted a link. I just need to find it againWasn't there a sight that claimed it was better than CC and it was exactly the same. Claimed it was a new release, a skull, 420 and something else if I remember correctly.no.
:confused:
Why do you want to find it again?
You do realize you're in a thread where we are talking about how much we dislike someone, and you've asked how to find their store...
Not trying to go buy one... Sheesh...Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/52b44be5.gif)
It forgot about it, and got curious again.
Hey, if it was an honest question then I'm sorry for attacking you like that, but surely you can see the problem with asking for the link in this thread? :-X
I said need to find because I remember reading thisShow Image(http://puu.sh/eNVQn/7eb08e149f.png)
I wasn't sure what your intentions were, so I said that as a blanket statement, but if I knew you were genuinely not interested in buying them I would have responded differently. So that's what I meant by "attacking". It was kind of a tame attack. :P
Post by: Michael on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:50:14
Funny, I read that as sarcasm :pI remember it selling red ones only. Rowdy posted a link. I just need to find it againWasn't there a sight that claimed it was better than CC and it was exactly the same. Claimed it was a new release, a skull, 420 and something else if I remember correctly.no.
???
Why do you want to find it again?
You do realize you're in a thread where we are talking about how much we dislike someone, and you've asked how to find their store...
Not trying to go buy one... Sheesh...Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/52b44be5.gif)
It forgot about it, and got curious again.
Hey, if it was an honest question then I'm sorry for attacking you like that, but surely you can see the problem with asking for the link in this thread? :-X
I said need to find because I remember reading thisShow Image(http://puu.sh/eNVQn/7eb08e149f.png)
This?
(http://i.imgur.com/glSRJ7H.jpg)
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:50:55
No worries man. Didn't feel any offense.Funny, I read that as sarcasmI remember it selling red ones only. Rowdy posted a link. I just need to find it againWasn't there a sight that claimed it was better than CC and it was exactly the same. Claimed it was a new release, a skull, 420 and something else if I remember correctly.no.
:confused:
Why do you want to find it again?
You do realize you're in a thread where we are talking about how much we dislike someone, and you've asked how to find their store...
Not trying to go buy one... Sheesh...Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/52b44be5.gif)
It forgot about it, and got curious again.
Hey, if it was an honest question then I'm sorry for attacking you like that, but surely you can see the problem with asking for the link in this thread? :-X
I said need to find because I remember reading thisShow Image(http://puu.sh/eNVQn/7eb08e149f.png)
I wasn't sure what your intentions were, so I said that as a blanket statement, but if I knew you were genuinely not interested in buying them I would have responded differently. So that's what I meant by "attacking". It was kind of a tame attack.
I'm one of those kind of people to buy the legit thing lol.
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:53:35
No one in this thread seems to respect copyright.
Any obfuscation of that fact is absurd. "It's a moral issue" lol
The only relevant argument I've heard for not buying the fake clacks is "You wouldn't pirate an album your friend just released"
Which is relevant only if you have a connection to the creator.
I just don't understand all this fuss. If kecap makers want to make more money they need to produce more or sell them for more money. Complaining about copyright infringement when you're in spirit doing the same thing, and have no capital to pursue those claims. It just doesn't make any sense.
It's anti consumer. And most of us are consumers. Why would I not support some one flooding the market with from a layman's perspective basically identical product line.
People talk about sales in threads, I seem them all the time in the forum. I can't imagine why counterfeits at a lower price which aren't a pain in the ass to get would sell well.......
Post by: bueller on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:57:49
This is my first post, spending over an hour reading this thread motivated me to write.
No one in this thread seems to respect copyright.
Any obfuscation of that fact is absurd. "It's a moral issue" lol
The only relevant argument I've heard for not buying the fake clacks is "You wouldn't pirate an album your friend just released"
Which is relevant only if you have a connection to the creator.
I just don't understand all this fuss. If kecap makers want to make more money they need to produce more or sell them for more money. Complaining about copyright infringement when you're in spirit doing the same thing, and have no capital to pursue those claims. It just doesn't make any sense.
It's anti consumer. And most of us are consumers. Why would I not support some one flooding the market with from a layman's perspective basically identical product line.
People talk about sales in threads, I seem them all the time in the forum. I can't imagine why counterfeits at a lower price which aren't a pain in the ass to get would sell well.......
CC makes what he can, just because someone else *can* make his designs doesn't mean we want them. The beauty of CC's work is in the details, apart from Bro Caps I've never seen any other artisan caps that looks as clean as a Clack. They've all got some minor imperfection, ****ty color choice etc that puts me off and that INCLUDES K3KC's knock offs.
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:00:41
This is my first post, spending over an hour reading this thread motivated me to write.
No one in this thread seems to respect copyright.
Any obfuscation of that fact is absurd. "It's a moral issue" lol
The only relevant argument I've heard for not buying the fake clacks is "You wouldn't pirate an album your friend just released"
Which is relevant only if you have a connection to the creator.
I just don't understand all this fuss. If kecap makers want to make more money they need to produce more or sell them for more money. Complaining about copyright infringement when you're in spirit doing the same thing, and have no capital to pursue those claims. It just doesn't make any sense.
It's anti consumer. And most of us are consumers. Why would I not support some one flooding the market with from a layman's perspective basically identical product line.
People talk about sales in threads, I seem them all the time in the forum. I can't imagine why counterfeits at a lower price which aren't a pain in the ass to get would sell well.......
What you haven't seen is the fact that the site blatantly says (http://puu.sh/eNVQn/7eb08e149f.png)
I look at my CC, and compare it to others, mine is slightly different. The left side of the top is different compared to others that I've seen. They're all different.
I'd think it'd be for quality.
I.E. You buy an APR cat back for an allroad hehe, instead of the ebay exhaust.
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:03:18
So you are probably right, but in a picture and to anyone that is every going to see it in person on my desk they're going to have no idea.
I'm not trying to perpetuate the idea that they're the same. Only that from what I can tell having one or the other sitting on my board wouldn't make much difference.
It's just this isn't a rational way to deal with counterfeits*.
I don't see how this affects the popular keycap makers if they are selling more than they can produce.
Unless they're also selling on the after market for "non retail'?
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:04:56
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:09:54
This is my first post, spending over an hour reading this thread motivated me to write.
No one in this thread seems to respect copyright.
Any obfuscation of that fact is absurd. "It's a moral issue" lol
The only relevant argument I've heard for not buying the fake clacks is "You wouldn't pirate an album your friend just released"
Which is relevant only if you have a connection to the creator.
I just don't understand all this fuss. If kecap makers want to make more money they need to produce more or sell them for more money. Complaining about copyright infringement when you're in spirit doing the same thing, and have no capital to pursue those claims. It just doesn't make any sense.
It's anti consumer. And most of us are consumers. Why would I not support some one flooding the market with from a layman's perspective basically identical product line.
People talk about sales in threads, I seem them all the time in the forum. I can't imagine why counterfeits at a lower price which aren't a pain in the ass to get would sell well.......
What you haven't seen is the fact that the site blatantly saysShow Image(http://puu.sh/eNVQn/7eb08e149f.png)
I look at my CC, and compare it to others, mine is slightly different. The left side of the top is different compared to others that I've seen. They're all different.
I'd think it'd be for quality.
I.E. You buy an APR cat back for an allroad hehe, instead of the ebay exhaust.
Him being a **** to his competitors isn't my problem as a consumer.......
Post by: bueller on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:11:38
This is my first post, spending over an hour reading this thread motivated me to write.
No one in this thread seems to respect copyright.
Any obfuscation of that fact is absurd. "It's a moral issue" lol
The only relevant argument I've heard for not buying the fake clacks is "You wouldn't pirate an album your friend just released"
Which is relevant only if you have a connection to the creator.
I just don't understand all this fuss. If kecap makers want to make more money they need to produce more or sell them for more money. Complaining about copyright infringement when you're in spirit doing the same thing, and have no capital to pursue those claims. It just doesn't make any sense.
It's anti consumer. And most of us are consumers. Why would I not support some one flooding the market with from a layman's perspective basically identical product line.
People talk about sales in threads, I seem them all the time in the forum. I can't imagine why counterfeits at a lower price which aren't a pain in the ass to get would sell well.......
What you haven't seen is the fact that the site blatantly saysShow Image(http://puu.sh/eNVQn/7eb08e149f.png)
I look at my CC, and compare it to others, mine is slightly different. The left side of the top is different compared to others that I've seen. They're all different.
I'd think it'd be for quality.
I.E. You buy an APR cat back for an allroad hehe, instead of the ebay exhaust.
Him being a **** to his competitors isn't my problem as a consumer.......
Whatever you need to tell yourself.
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:14:17
Again your moral high ground is non existent
Not to mention the myriad of other things people in this thread do that violate all sorts IP
Keep telling yourself that, it's exactly that attitude that motivated me to post.
Edit - It's so blatantly personal for you, you're a consumer. This a consumer forum. Stop acting that way
Post by: bueller on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:15:00
You buy products from people who steal other people's IP
Again your moral high ground is non existant
Not to mention the myriad of other things people in this thread do that violate all sorts IP
Keep telling yousrelf that, it's exactly that attitude that motivated me to post.
Aaaaaand blocked. Go back to reddit troll.
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:17:48
It's why CONSUMERS come here
I don't see what reddit has to do with this.
Adults don't go to reddit for pro consumer information either.
That would be a terrible choice. It's literally chalk full of shills.
I have used many forums like this over the years.......Just never been motivated to post in Geekhack until I read the absurdity in this thread.
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:19:48
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:21:04
How is protecting that IP with your multinational corporation backing you going?
I spent so much time reading this thread I feel like I know all of you
Ediit - And why you're munching popcorn when you've spent a year jumping up and down in this thread I have no idea
LoL
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:22:21
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:22:54
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:26:26
This guy munches popcorn, you boys cry over "artful plastic"
He trolled you guys so hard all over this thread, im tempted to go back hahahah
Vietnamese dude trolling a bunch of native english speakers on an english forum was pretty funny
I don't think i need to link it, the sodium levels were pretty clear
Edit - You don't see that every day in most forums
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:28:33
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:29:32
Show Image(http://badbooksgoodtimes.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/toy-story-popcorn.gif)
Awwwwww ^-^
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:30:37
Good one Nubb
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:31:43
Aww **** new vader comin out boys
Better get em while they're hot
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2t36oy/new_improved_darth_vader_key_sale_this_friday_23/
Looks like they'll sell well
BUT THE CREATORS IP!!!! lolll what a joke
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:32:09
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:34:08
Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:35:10
:DShow Image(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hermes-Popcorn-Gif-On-Futurama.gif)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:36:19
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:37:43
http://www.k3kc.com/blog/
Aww **** new vader comin out boys
Better get em while they're hot
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2t36oy/new_improved_darth_vader_key_sale_this_friday_23/
Looks like they'll sell well
BUT THE CREATORS IP!!!! lolll what a joke
holy **** that 3D grid eyes is ****ing hideous.
now i see why he has to copy, his original ideas are ugly as ****.
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:38:41
I guess my work here is done
Here is one of you getting into it with him in a thread not an hour ago
[–]wasd-asdf [score hidden] 49 minutes ago
I love how you make sure to hotlink everything, to ensure everyone knows how butthurt you are. Not sure what you hope to accomplish with it, but you got some issues man.
[–]ripster55
https://www.reddit.com/r/Ripster/comments/28gepo/whenever_anyone_calls_me_a_narcissist/
[–]wasd-asdf [score hidden] 29 minutes ago
It's not even fun bashing you... it's just 2 EZ.
HAHAHAH apparently I'm not the only one who doesn't like the idea of an anti consumer forum
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:40:11
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:41:40
(http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/bundys_popcorn.gif)
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:41:53
Show Image(http://media.giphy.com/media/gl0mkIZOW6Nwc/giphy.gif)
This guy the masochist goes and reads it
Does it hurt to get **** on by so many people?
Because from what I can tell there are only about 20 of you who actually think keycaps are art
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:42:51
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:44:45
(http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy253/NietzoVreemd/Macros/gw-itcrowdmosspopcorn_zps69927d34.gif~original)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:45:07
Post by: strict on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:45:26
Show Image(http://media.giphy.com/media/gl0mkIZOW6Nwc/giphy.gif)
This guy the masochist goes and reads it
Does it hurt to get **** on by so many people?
Because from what I can tell there are only about 20 of you who actually think keycaps are art
Theres only one of you who think you're clever
Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:46:15
This thread is making me hungry.(http://24.media.tumblr.com/54c557eb41db8d687bb6f71fd65d51e2/tumblr_mwh08dpzxI1s0ta16o1_500.gif)
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:46:47
Show Image(http://media.giphy.com/media/gl0mkIZOW6Nwc/giphy.gif)
This guy the masochist goes and reads it
Does it hurt to get **** on by so many people?
Because from what I can tell there are only about 20 of you who actually think keycaps are art
Theres only one of you who think you're clever
dude i dont understand who juicin is talking about. does he hate ripster or is he siding with ripster?!?!
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:48:15
Show Image(http://media.giphy.com/media/gl0mkIZOW6Nwc/giphy.gif)
This guy the masochist goes and reads it
Does it hurt to get **** on by so many people?
Because from what I can tell there are only about 20 of you who actually think keycaps are art
Theres only one of you who think you're clever
dude i dont understand who juicin is talking about. does he hate ripster or is he siding with ripster?!?!
(http://media.giphy.com/media/b8kHKZq3YFfnq/giphy.gif)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:48:31
This thread is making me hungry.
(http://media.giphy.com/media/ITUSeWK5WMATu/giphy.gif)
(http://rumorsontheinternets.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/arod-popcorn.gif)
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:49:29
This thread is making me hungry.Show Image(http://media.giphy.com/media/ITUSeWK5WMATu/giphy.gif)Show Image(http://rumorsontheinternets.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/arod-popcorn.gif)
did u purposely find one with the packers playing just to hurt houff?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:53:08
This thread is making me hungry.Show Image(http://media.giphy.com/media/ITUSeWK5WMATu/giphy.gif)Show Image(http://rumorsontheinternets.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/arod-popcorn.gif)
<3 thank you nubs! :-* PS, you're pretty cute. ;)
This thread is making me hungry.Show Image(http://media.giphy.com/media/ITUSeWK5WMATu/giphy.gif)Show Image(http://rumorsontheinternets.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/arod-popcorn.gif)
did u purposely find one with the packers playing just to hurt houff?
LOL worst troll evar. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XLV
Quote
The Packers defeated the Steelers by the score of 31–25
^-^ ^-^ ^-^ ^-^ ^-^
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:53:09
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2012/02/very_interesting.gif)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:56:20
Show Image(http://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/imported_assets/2130919/benny-rondo.gif)
That is definitely my favorite one I've seen today.
Post by: C5Allroad on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:57:30
Maybe... HE'S RIPSTER DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNN (http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/th_053_XD.gif)Show Image(http://media.giphy.com/media/gl0mkIZOW6Nwc/giphy.gif)
This guy the masochist goes and reads it
Does it hurt to get **** on by so many people?
Because from what I can tell there are only about 20 of you who actually think keycaps are art
Theres only one of you who think you're clever
dude i dont understand who juicin is talking about. does he hate ripster or is he siding with ripster?!?!
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 20:59:33
This thread is making me hungry.Show Image(http://media.giphy.com/media/ITUSeWK5WMATu/giphy.gif)Show Image(http://rumorsontheinternets.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/arod-popcorn.gif)
<3 thank you nubs! :-* PS, you're pretty cute. ;)This thread is making me hungry.Show Image(http://media.giphy.com/media/ITUSeWK5WMATu/giphy.gif)Show Image(http://rumorsontheinternets.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/arod-popcorn.gif)
did u purposely find one with the packers playing just to hurt houff?
LOL worst troll evar. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XLVQuoteThe Packers defeated the Steelers by the score of 31�25
^-^ ^-^ ^-^ ^-^ ^-^
well, kinda. could be a reminder of what could have been if it wasn't for that choke.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:05:14
well, kinda. could be a reminder of what could have been if it wasn't for that choke.
Whenever I'm sad, I just read the first record in this (http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/history/pdfs/Records/2013/Team_Records.pdf) list.
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:06:24
well, kinda. could be a reminder of what could have been if it wasn't for that choke.
Whenever I'm sad, I just read the first record in this (http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/history/pdfs/Records/2013/Team_Records.pdf) list.
son you've only been alive to see one of those
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:07:42
well, kinda. could be a reminder of what could have been if it wasn't for that choke.
Whenever I'm sad, I just read the first record in this (http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/history/pdfs/Records/2013/Team_Records.pdf) list.
son you've only been alive to see one of those
... u wot m8
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:09:02
well, kinda. could be a reminder of what could have been if it wasn't for that choke.
Whenever I'm sad, I just read the first record in this (http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/history/pdfs/Records/2013/Team_Records.pdf) list.
son you've only been alive to see one of those
... u wot m8
what u say about me mum
wow, no football is tearing us apart houff :(
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:09:12
well, kinda. could be a reminder of what could have been if it wasn't for that choke.
Whenever I'm sad, I just read the first record in this (http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/history/pdfs/Records/2013/Team_Records.pdf) list.
son you've only been alive to see one of those
... u wot m8
You want to mate?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:11:19
well, kinda. could be a reminder of what could have been if it wasn't for that choke.
Whenever I'm sad, I just read the first record in this (http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/history/pdfs/Records/2013/Team_Records.pdf) list.
son you've only been alive to see one of those
... u wot m8
what u say about me mum
wow, no football is tearing us apart houff :(
I have been nothing but supportive of you and your team (unless we were playing them). You're the one that had to go and talk smack. :|
Something something fake clacks.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:28:44
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:29:39
don't mute this guy i'm laughing so hard at his posts
No worries. It's been an entertaining night.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:30:01
don't mute this guy i'm laughing so hard at his posts
No worries. It's been an entertaining night.
that's for sure
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:30:57
don't mute this guy i'm laughing so hard at his posts
Next up in his repertoire:
(http://cdn2.thegloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/come-at-me.gif)
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:31:12
Show Image(http://media.giphy.com/media/gl0mkIZOW6Nwc/giphy.gif)
This guy the masochist goes and reads it
Does it hurt to get **** on by so many people?
Because from what I can tell there are only about 20 of you who actually think keycaps are art
Theres only one of you who think you're clever
dude i dont understand who juicin is talking about. does he hate ripster or is he siding with ripster?!?!
He is certainly right about this community, lol
You seem to feel it too
You have referenced how stupid the people in this thread are many times.
And theyr'e all Geekhack members
I read your posts too
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:31:21
Show Image(http://media.giphy.com/media/gl0mkIZOW6Nwc/giphy.gif)
This guy the masochist goes and reads it
Does it hurt to get **** on by so many people?
Because from what I can tell there are only about 20 of you who actually think keycaps are art
Theres only one of you who think you're clever
dude i dont understand who juicin is talking about. does he hate ripster or is he siding with ripster?!?!
He is certainly right about this community, lol
You seem to feel it too
You have referenced how stupid the people in this thread are many times.
And theyr'e all Geekhack members
I read your posts too
oh there is no denying there are stupid people here. anything revolving CCs becomes a cesspool of stupidity, because irony gets lost on some people.
but that's not what i'm talking about. i asked who you were siding with, but with that reply, i see you're on ripster's side.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:31:45
Show Image(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c63/billienomates/Moving%20GIFs/gomez_popcorn.gif)
damn that's impressive
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:32:59
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:33:00
You have referenced how stupid the people in this thread are many times.
demik, did you call me stupid?? :'(
Don't hurt my feelings like this, I can't take it...
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:34:05
You have referenced how stupid the people in this thread are many times.
demik, did you call me stupid?? :'(
Don't hurt my feelings like this, I can't take it...
never <3
i mean, your team choices are questionable.
OH GOD HOUFF I CAN'T STOP IM SORRY.
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:34:29
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:35:39
Show Image(http://makeameme.org/media/created/popcorn-popcorn-everywhere.jpg)
Movie theaters hate them!
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:36:34
You have referenced how stupid the people in this thread are many times.
demik, did you call me stupid?? :'(
Don't hurt my feelings like this, I can't take it...
never <3
i mean, your team choices are questionable.
OH GOD HOUFF I CAN'T STOP IM SORRY.
(http://www.stephaniefeagan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/yeah-you-failed-jennifer-lawrence-gif.gif)
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:36:35
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:38:44
I'm a consumer, I'm on the consumers side.
Which is this case is clearly with the knock offs.
PROTECT THAT VADER IP
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:39:14
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:39:24
It would have to personal to have a side
I'm a consumer, I'm on the consumers side.
Which is this case is clearly with the knock offs.
PROTECT THAT VADER IP
who is this guy?
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:40:32
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:41:25
It would have to personal to have a side
I'm a consumer, I'm on the consumers side.
Which is this case is clearly with the knock offs.
PROTECT THAT VADER IP
who is this guy?
(http://www.troll.me/images2/the-stig/some-say-that-he-has-the-mating-call-of-a-killer-whale-and-that-he-once-counted-to-infinit-all-we-know-is-hes-called-the-stig.jpg)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:42:04
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:42:41
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:43:04
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:43:30
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:43:46
It would have to personal to have a side
I'm a consumer, I'm on the consumers side.
Which is this case is clearly with the knock offs.
PROTECT THAT VADER IP
who is this guy?
This beatiful thread motivated me to elevate myself from lurker status to glorious consumer advocate
Who is salty about the ridiculous and personal stance you guys have taken on this issue. Even if these guys are sponsors what you're doing makes no sense.
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:44:14
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:44:52
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:45:39
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:45:57
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:45:58
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:46:32
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:46:32
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:46:58
what you're doing makes no sense.
^-^
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:46:59
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:47:47
what you're doing makes no sense.
^-^
(http://img.pandawhale.com/post-55199-George-Clooney-Frances-McDorma-Uv28.gif)
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:47:57
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:48:01
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:48:08
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:48:19
It would have to personal to have a side
I'm a consumer, I'm on the consumers side.
Which is this case is clearly with the knock offs.
PROTECT THAT VADER IP
who is this guy?
****ing funny guy who doesn't understand how the community feels when **** like this happens.
Consumers want better products at the lowest prices. If k3s fakes weren't so **** I would probably be 2% more likely to buy on making me 2% likely overall.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:48:25
Am I a sponsor?
Are you a sponsor?
What are we sponsoring?
When did I sign up for this?
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:48:45
Show Image(http://img.pandawhale.com/post-38812-Psych-popcorn-gif-Imgur-Yvod.gif)
Likes DS9, talk about IP ripoff
Can't remember what gifs have already been posted
Big surprise
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:49:06
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:49:23
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:49:35
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:49:56
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:50:19
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:50:34
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:50:41
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:51:10
Show Image(http://img.pandawhale.com/post-38812-Psych-popcorn-gif-Imgur-Yvod.gif)
Likes DS9, talk about IP ripoff
Can't remember what gifs have already been posted
Big surprise
(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/thefw.com/files/2013/01/guy-fieri-gif.gif)
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:51:28
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:51:32
Show Image(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/thefw.com/files/2013/01/guy-fieri-gif.gif)
WTF KIND OF POPCORN IS THAT
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:51:43
Wait.
Am I a sponsor?
Are you a sponsor?
What are we sponsoring?
When did I sign up for this?
If tehre are no sponsors then your stance is even more irrational
"he's my bro so **** this other legitimate business"
That's cool dude
Great forum
Post by: PunksDead on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:51:46
Post by: strict on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:51:58
It would have to personal to have a side
I'm a consumer, I'm on the consumers side.
Which is this case is clearly with the knock offs.
PROTECT THAT VADER IP
who is this guy?
This beatiful thread motivated me to elevate myself from lurker status to glorious consumer advocate
Who is salty about the ridiculous and personal stance you guys have taken on this issue. Even if these guys are sponsors what you're doing makes no sense.
(http://i.imgur.com/Phv2swi.jpg)
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:52:07
Show Image(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/thefw.com/files/2013/01/guy-fieri-gif.gif)
WTF KIND OF POPCORN IS THAT
U WOT M8, TELL ME YOU DONT WANT PIZZA
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:52:45
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:52:47
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:53:28
Show Image(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/thefw.com/files/2013/01/guy-fieri-gif.gif)
WTF KIND OF POPCORN IS THAT
U WOT M8, TELL ME YOU DONT WANT PIZZA
BUT NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR PIZZA
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:53:43
Wait.
Am I a sponsor?
Are you a sponsor?
What are we sponsoring?
When did I sign up for this?
If tehre are no sponsors then your stance is even more irrational
"he's my bro so **** this other legitimate business"
That's cool dude
Great forum
(http://i.imgur.com/AhXL19J.gif)
houff, hand in your mod status. you've been served.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:54:45
Wait.
Am I a sponsor?
Are you a sponsor?
What are we sponsoring?
When did I sign up for this?
If tehre are no sponsors then your stance is even more irrational
"he's my bro so **** this other legitimate business"
That's cool dude
Great forum
Oh, you mean sponsors of the site, I see.
Yeah no that would never happen. :))
Glad you have a solid grasp on how this site operates. :thumb: Sounds like you really do know us all too well.
Post by: digi on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:54:53
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:55:25
Wait.
Am I a sponsor?
Are you a sponsor?
What are we sponsoring?
When did I sign up for this?
If tehre are no sponsors then your stance is even more irrational
"he's my bro so **** this other legitimate business"
That's cool dude
Great forumShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/AhXL19J.gif)
houff, hand in your mod status. you've been served.
:( But MooooOOOOOOOoooooommmmmmmm
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:55:41
legitimate business
(http://www.thereturnedmissionary.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Inigo-Montoya-WORD-MEANS.jpg)
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:56:19
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:56:21
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:57:23
Wait.
Am I a sponsor?
Are you a sponsor?
What are we sponsoring?
When did I sign up for this?
If tehre are no sponsors then your stance is even more irrational
"he's my bro so **** this other legitimate business"
That's cool dude
Great forum
Oh, you mean sponsors of the site, I see.
Yeah no that would never happen. :))
Glad you have a solid grasp on how this site operates. :thumb: Sounds like you really do know us all too well.
You still haven't explained if they're sponsors
Which is amusing because that's what you should say every time some one asks.
Yet I read this whole thread and not one of you acknowledged it
Well the vast majority of it
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:57:28
Show Image(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/446/034/a9f.gif)
Cannot unsee..
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:58:28
Wait.
Am I a sponsor?
Are you a sponsor?
What are we sponsoring?
When did I sign up for this?
If tehre are no sponsors then your stance is even more irrational
"he's my bro so **** this other legitimate business"
That's cool dude
Great forum
Oh, you mean sponsors of the site, I see.
Yeah no that would never happen. :))
Glad you have a solid grasp on how this site operates. :thumb: Sounds like you really do know us all too well.
You still haven't explained if they're sponsors
Which is amusing because that's what you should say every time some one asks.
Yet I read this whole thread and not one of you acknowledged it
Well the vast majority of it
Seriously what are you even going on about?
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:58:44
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:59:20
Wait.
Am I a sponsor?
Are you a sponsor?
What are we sponsoring?
When did I sign up for this?
If tehre are no sponsors then your stance is even more irrational
"he's my bro so **** this other legitimate business"
That's cool dude
Great forum
Oh, you mean sponsors of the site, I see.
Yeah no that would never happen. :))
Glad you have a solid grasp on how this site operates. :thumb: Sounds like you really do know us all too well.
You still haven't explained if they're sponsors
Which is amusing because that's what you should say every time some one asks.
Yet I read this whole thread and not one of you acknowledged it
Well the vast majority of it
When you say you "read" this entire thread...did you have your eyes closed, by any chance?
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:00:20
And conjecture won't do.
I know you don't but I'll ask anyway
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:00:25
Wait.
Am I a sponsor?
Are you a sponsor?
What are we sponsoring?
When did I sign up for this?
If tehre are no sponsors then your stance is even more irrational
"he's my bro so **** this other legitimate business"
That's cool dude
Great forum
Oh, you mean sponsors of the site, I see.
Yeah no that would never happen. :))
Glad you have a solid grasp on how this site operates. :thumb: Sounds like you really do know us all too well.
You still haven't explained if they're sponsors
Which is amusing because that's what you should say every time some one asks.
Yet I read this whole thread and not one of you acknowledged it
Well the vast majority of it
Seriously what are you even going on about?
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/3574776/evan-baxter-o.gif)
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:01:10
Wait.
Am I a sponsor?
Are you a sponsor?
What are we sponsoring?
When did I sign up for this?
If tehre are no sponsors then your stance is even more irrational
"he's my bro so **** this other legitimate business"
That's cool dude
Great forum
Oh, you mean sponsors of the site, I see.
Yeah no that would never happen. :))
Glad you have a solid grasp on how this site operates. :thumb: Sounds like you really do know us all too well.
You still haven't explained if they're sponsors
Which is amusing because that's what you should say every time some one asks.
Yet I read this whole thread and not one of you acknowledged it
Well the vast majority of it
Seriously what are you even going on about?Show Image(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/3574776/evan-baxter-o.gif)
Sounds about right...
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:02:16
Anyone have any proof he isn't running a legitimate business?
And conjecture won't do.
I know you don't but I'll ask anyway
(http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Hurr+durr_ba81a3_4245920.gif)
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:02:43
"No he's my bro **** this legitimate businss?"
Surprise Surprise
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:02:45
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:03:38
k3's PR team is terribad
(http://www.businessinsider.com/image/4fdf60c8eab8ea971d000038/what-happens-in-media-planning-dog-golfing.gif)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:03:56
So we're back to
"No he's my bro **** this legitimate businss?"
Surprise Surprise
TL;DR
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-W9hjDwO2YrQ/VFDrckwQAqI/AAAAAAAAA_A/PP7e1ClN-1I/s1600/come.gif)
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:04:08
hahahah
You've already said it in the thread
WHy would they pay me to do what you people do for them?
Edit - I wouldn't even know what the **** was going on if it wasn't for this thread, lol
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:04:57
Yea because those dudes need publicity when they have you people
hahahah
You've already said it in the thread
WHy would they pay me to do what you people do for them?
(http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ice_cube_wtf.gif)
what's funny is, i agree with most of what you're saying.
but you've been here for what seems like a day.. and this is all you're talking about? how bored are you?
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:05:51
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:06:12
Yea because those dudes need publicity when they have you people
hahahah
You've already said it in the thread
WHy would they pay me to do what you people do for them?Show Image(http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ice_cube_wtf.gif)
(http://reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/McCoy_ISWYDT.gif)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:06:17
Yea because those dudes need publicity when they have you people
hahahah
You've already said it in the thread
WHy would they pay me to do what you people do for them?
Edit - I wouldn't even know what the **** was going on if it wasn't for this thread, lol
Clearly you still don't know what the **** is going on.
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:07:39
Yea because those dudes need publicity when they have you people
hahahah
You've already said it in the thread
WHy would they pay me to do what you people do for them?
Edit - I wouldn't even know what the **** was going on if it wasn't for this thread, lol
Clearly you still don't know what the **** is going on.
(http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/DorothyCondoms.gif)
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:07:53
Yea because those dudes need publicity when they have you people
hahahah
You've already said it in the thread
WHy would they pay me to do what you people do for them?
Edit - I wouldn't even know what the **** was going on if it wasn't for this thread, lol
Clearly you still don't know what the **** is going on.
(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Robin-Williams-What-Year-Is-It-Jumanji.gif)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:08:20
Yea because those dudes need publicity when they have you people
hahahah
You've already said it in the thread
WHy would they pay me to do what you people do for them?
Edit - I wouldn't even know what the **** was going on if it wasn't for this thread, lol
Clearly you still don't know what the **** is going on.Show Image(http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/DorothyCondoms.gif)
That probably would be going on but I was like, no way there might be another clack sale.
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:08:50
Yea because those dudes need publicity when they have you people
hahahah
You've already said it in the thread
WHy would they pay me to do what you people do for them?Show Image(http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ice_cube_wtf.gif)
what's funny is, i agree with most of what you're saying.
but you've been here for what seems like a day.. and this is all you're talking about? how bored are you?
Well I am somewhat bored. Pretty sure I haven't talked about it though, although the implied boredome of deciding to stop lurking to post about keycaps I don't really care about beyond principle.
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:09:17
Yea because those dudes need publicity when they have you people
hahahah
You've already said it in the thread
WHy would they pay me to do what you people do for them?
Edit - I wouldn't even know what the **** was going on if it wasn't for this thread, lol
Clearly you still don't know what the **** is going on.Show Image(http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/DorothyCondoms.gif)
That probably would be going on but I was like, no way there might be another clack sale.
TIL Clacks > Sex
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:10:47
Yea because those dudes need publicity when they have you people
hahahah
You've already said it in the thread
WHy would they pay me to do what you people do for them?
Edit - I wouldn't even know what the **** was going on if it wasn't for this thread, lol
Clearly you still don't know what the **** is going on.Show Image(http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/DorothyCondoms.gif)
That probably would be going on but I was like, no way there might be another clack sale.
TIL Clacks > Sex
Dude, sex can happen any day. Clack sales are only...every day for the near future... hmm.
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:10:51
Well I am somewhat bored. Pretty sure I haven't talked about it though, although the implied boredome of deciding to stop lurking to post about keycaps I don't really care about beyond principle.
Bored?
(http://roflzombie.com/images/asl.gif)
Dude, sex can happen any day. Clack sales are only...every day for the near future... hmm.
It's not sex if you're by yourself
I'm so lonely.
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:11:02
Yea because those dudes need publicity when they have you people
hahahah
You've already said it in the thread
WHy would they pay me to do what you people do for them?Show Image(http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ice_cube_wtf.gif)
what's funny is, i agree with most of what you're saying.
but you've been here for what seems like a day.. and this is all you're talking about? how bored are you?
Well I am somewhat bored. Pretty sure I haven't talked about it though, although the implied boredome of deciding to stop lurking to post about keycaps I don't really care about beyond principle.
seems like you're wasting your energy on something so trivial to you. honestly, why? i did it before, you're not going to win anything. people will continue to complain about fakes while dropping thousands on CCs then wonder why some ass hat wants to cash in on the hype with fakes. happens to all hobbies, you'll have a better time here just ignoring it.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:11:34
Yea because those dudes need publicity when they have you people
hahahah
You've already said it in the thread
WHy would they pay me to do what you people do for them?
Edit - I wouldn't even know what the **** was going on if it wasn't for this thread, lol
Clearly you still don't know what the **** is going on.Show Image(http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/DorothyCondoms.gif)
That probably would be going on but I was like, no way there might be another clack sale.
TIL Clacks > Sex
Sex= cardio= no gains... so yes Clacks are better than no gains.
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:12:03
Yea because those dudes need publicity when they have you people
hahahah
You've already said it in the thread
WHy would they pay me to do what you people do for them?
Edit - I wouldn't even know what the **** was going on if it wasn't for this thread, lol
Clearly you still don't know what the **** is going on.Show Image(http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/DorothyCondoms.gif)
That probably would be going on but I was like, no way there might be another clack sale.
TIL Clacks > Sex
Sex= cardio= no gains... so yes Clacks are better than no gains.
(http://now-here-this.timeout.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/tumblr_lkrc1tipj51qb0pvz.gif)
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:12:47
Yea because those dudes need publicity when they have you people
hahahah
You've already said it in the thread
WHy would they pay me to do what you people do for them?
Edit - I wouldn't even know what the **** was going on if it wasn't for this thread, lol
Clearly you still don't know what the **** is going on.Show Image(http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/DorothyCondoms.gif)
That probably would be going on but I was like, no way there might be another clack sale.
Well I seem to get it pretty well
"You wouldn't pirate your friends album"
Only rational argument you've heard
And most of you aren't any of these keycap makers friends.
It's a standard nonone in this thread holds themselves to. Including the keycap makers.
Edit - quoted a few too many people, many to quote the "you don't know what the **** is going on"
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:14:55
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:16:08
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:16:12
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:16:13
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:16:42
"You wouldn't pirate your friends album"
Only rational argument you've heard
And most of you aren't any of these keycap makers friends.
Then why would we defend them and their work?
(http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg)
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:18:02
"You wouldn't pirate your friends album"
Only rational argument you've heardAnd most of you aren't any of these keycap makers friends.
Then why would we defend them and their work?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg)
free caps?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:19:26
"You wouldn't pirate your friends album"
Only rational argument you've heardAnd most of you aren't any of these keycap makers friends.
Then why would we defend them and their work?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg)
free caps?
Nah man, I would only defend my friend's work. But they're not my friends, so I have no reason to defend them. My whole world is crumbling down. I don't know what's real anymore.
Also, where the **** are my free caps, then??
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:20:08
free caps or else.
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:20:14
"You wouldn't pirate your friends album"
Only rational argument you've heardAnd most of you aren't any of these keycap makers friends.
Then why would we defend them and their work?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg)
I don't know because you've wasted hundreds of dollars on overpriced plastic?
And more importantly the vocal few are controlling the herd, obviously.
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:20:22
"You wouldn't pirate your friends album"
Only rational argument you've heardAnd most of you aren't any of these keycap makers friends.
Then why would we defend them and their work?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg)
free caps?
Nah man, I would only defend my friend's work. But they're not my friends, so I have no reason to defend them. My whole world is crumbling down. I don't know what's real anymore.
Also, where the **** are my free caps, then??
I'll give you some "free" caps baby. ;)
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:21:29
"You wouldn't pirate your friends album"
Only rational argument you've heardAnd most of you aren't any of these keycap makers friends.
Then why would we defend them and their work?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg)
I don't know because you've wasted hundreds of dollars on overpriced plastic?
And more importantly the vocal few are controlling the herd, obviously.
(http://i.imgur.com/V7Htnoe.gif)
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:22:25
"You wouldn't pirate your friends album"
Only rational argument you've heardAnd most of you aren't any of these keycap makers friends.
Then why would we defend them and their work?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg)
I don't know because you've wasted hundreds of dollars on overpriced plastic?
And more importantly the vocal few are controlling the herd, obviously.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/V7Htnoe.gif)
:triangle:
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:22:25
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:22:54
houffman, lets start a revolution.
free caps or else.
YOU HEAR THAT, CLACK?? WE DEMAND FREE CAPS, OR ELSE.
I'll give you some "free" caps baby. ;)
Just how I like 'em. ;) :-*
Show Image(http://nocoastbias.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/confused.gif)
:-*
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:23:26
"You wouldn't pirate your friends album"
Only rational argument you've heardAnd most of you aren't any of these keycap makers friends.
Then why would we defend them and their work?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg)
I don't know because you've wasted hundreds of dollars on overpriced plastic?
And more importantly the vocal few are controlling the herd, obviously.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/V7Htnoe.gif)
Yea mods on small forums going on crazy crusades, who has ever seen that in the history of the internet
Nobody........
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:23:59
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:25:35
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:26:03
"You wouldn't pirate your friends album"
Only rational argument you've heardAnd most of you aren't any of these keycap makers friends.
Then why would we defend them and their work?
(http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg)
I don't know because you've wasted hundreds of dollars on overpriced plastic?
And more importantly the vocal few are controlling the herd, obviously.
Why can't it be good enough for people that we are a community? As a community why wouldn't be stand up for one of our own members?
Post by: demik on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:26:05
"You wouldn't pirate your friends album"
Only rational argument you've heardAnd most of you aren't any of these keycap makers friends.
Then why would we defend them and their work?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg)
I don't know because you've wasted hundreds of dollars on overpriced plastic?
And more importantly the vocal few are controlling the herd, obviously.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/V7Htnoe.gif)
Yea mods on small forums going on crazy crusades, who has ever seen that in the history of the internet
Nobody........
HOLD UP.
MOD HATE? NOW YOU'RE TALKING MY LANGUAGE.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:27:24
"You wouldn't pirate your friends album"
Only rational argument you've heardAnd most of you aren't any of these keycap makers friends.
Then why would we defend them and their work?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg)
I don't know because you've wasted hundreds of dollars on overpriced plastic?
And more importantly the vocal few are controlling the herd, obviously.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/V7Htnoe.gif)
Yea mods on small forums going on crazy crusades, who has ever seen that in the history of the internet
Nobody........
HOLD UP.
MOD HATE? NOW YOU'RE TALKING MY LANGUAGE.
(https://i.imgur.com/Muh7YYP.jpg)
Post by: hwood34 on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:28:11
just hopped off the boat from ripsterland I see"You wouldn't pirate your friends album"
Only rational argument you've heardAnd most of you aren't any of these keycap makers friends.
Then why would we defend them and their work?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg)
I don't know because you've wasted hundreds of dollars on overpriced plastic?
And more importantly the vocal few are controlling the herd, obviously.
maybe we're just against counterfeiting?
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:28:16
"You wouldn't pirate your friends album"
Only rational argument you've heardAnd most of you aren't any of these keycap makers friends.
Then why would we defend them and their work?
(http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg)
I don't know because you've wasted hundreds of dollars on overpriced plastic?
And more importantly the vocal few are controlling the herd, obviously.
Why can't it be good enough for people that we are a community? As a community why wouldn't be stand up for one of our own members?
I think it's more about you wanting things to remain the same, half the posts I see when I've been here while looking for a board again are about those damn keycaps
I don't think you care if they go for 700 or 200, as long as they have substantial value.
But that is there yes, it has SOMETHING to do with it. But I doubt that isn't the sole motivation for some*
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:29:12
"You wouldn't pirate your friends album"
Only rational argument you've heardAnd most of you aren't any of these keycap makers friends.
Then why would we defend them and their work?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg)
I don't know because you've wasted hundreds of dollars on overpriced plastic?
And more importantly the vocal few are controlling the herd, obviously.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/V7Htnoe.gif)
Yea mods on small forums going on crazy crusades, who has ever seen that in the history of the internet
Nobody........
HOLD UP.
MOD HATE? NOW YOU'RE TALKING MY LANGUAGE.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Muh7YYP.jpg)
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m36lc6ujcK1r41hbg.gif)
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:35:19
(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Thats-Love-Marshall-Lily-Gif-On-How-I-Met-Your-Mother.gif)"You wouldn't pirate your friends album"
Only rational argument you've heardAnd most of you aren't any of these keycap makers friends.
Then why would we defend them and their work?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg)
I don't know because you've wasted hundreds of dollars on overpriced plastic?
And more importantly the vocal few are controlling the herd, obviously.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/V7Htnoe.gif)
Yea mods on small forums going on crazy crusades, who has ever seen that in the history of the internet
Nobody........
HOLD UP.
MOD HATE? NOW YOU'RE TALKING MY LANGUAGE.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Muh7YYP.jpg)Show Image(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m36lc6ujcK1r41hbg.gif)
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:39:21
just hopped off the boat from ripsterland I see"You wouldn't pirate your friends album"
Only rational argument you've heardAnd most of you aren't any of these keycap makers friends.
Then why would we defend them and their work?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg)
I don't know because you've wasted hundreds of dollars on overpriced plastic?
And more importantly the vocal few are controlling the herd, obviously.
maybe we're just against counterfeiting?
Just saying what's there for all to see
I don't need some one feeding me talking points.
I read the ****ing thread
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:42:59
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:43:49
"You wouldn't pirate your friends album"
Only rational argument you've heardAnd most of you aren't any of these keycap makers friends.
Then why would we defend them and their work?
(http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg)
I don't know because you've wasted hundreds of dollars on overpriced plastic?
And more importantly the vocal few are controlling the herd, obviously.
Why can't it be good enough for people that we are a community? As a community why wouldn't be stand up for one of our own members?
I think it's more about you wanting things to remain the same, half the posts I see when I've been here while looking for a board again are about those damn keycaps
I don't think you care if they go for 700 or 200, as long as they have substantial value.
But that is there yes, it has SOMETHING to do with it. But I doubt that isn't the sole motivation for some*
I don't think anyone wants clacks to be sold for $700, that is just plain stupid.
The issue I think most of us have is the blatant ripping off of clickclack's design and the blatant disrespect of this community that k3 showed when he started posting here about his copycaps.
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:46:22
"You wouldn't pirate your friends album"
Only rational argument you've heardAnd most of you aren't any of these keycap makers friends.
Then why would we defend them and their work?
(http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg)
I don't know because you've wasted hundreds of dollars on overpriced plastic?
And more importantly the vocal few are controlling the herd, obviously.
Why can't it be good enough for people that we are a community? As a community why wouldn't be stand up for one of our own members?
Well said SpAmStEr!
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 22:57:22
"You wouldn't pirate your friends album"
Only rational argument you've heardAnd most of you aren't any of these keycap makers friends.
Then why would we defend them and their work?
(http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg)
I don't know because you've wasted hundreds of dollars on overpriced plastic?
And more importantly the vocal few are controlling the herd, obviously.
Why can't it be good enough for people that we are a community? As a community why wouldn't be stand up for one of our own members?
I think it's more about you wanting things to remain the same, half the posts I see when I've been here while looking for a board again are about those damn keycaps
I don't think you care if they go for 700 or 200, as long as they have substantial value.
But that is there yes, it has SOMETHING to do with it. But I doubt that isn't the sole motivation for some*
I don't think anyone wants clacks to be sold for $700, that is just plain stupid.
The issue I think most of us have is the blatant ripping off of clickclack's design and the blatant disrespect of this community that k3 showed when he started posting here about his copycaps.
I've already explained how you don't hold anyone or yourself to that standard. Vader keycaps........
People keep saying they care about "counterfeiting" but they don't.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 January 2015, 23:08:17
"You wouldn't pirate your friends album"
Only rational argument you've heardAnd most of you aren't any of these keycap makers friends.
Then why would we defend them and their work?
(http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/4CrtDpZ.jpg)
I don't know because you've wasted hundreds of dollars on overpriced plastic?
And more importantly the vocal few are controlling the herd, obviously.
Why can't it be good enough for people that we are a community? As a community why wouldn't be stand up for one of our own members?
I think it's more about you wanting things to remain the same, half the posts I see when I've been here while looking for a board again are about those damn keycaps
I don't think you care if they go for 700 or 200, as long as they have substantial value.
But that is there yes, it has SOMETHING to do with it. But I doubt that isn't the sole motivation for some*
I don't think anyone wants clacks to be sold for $700, that is just plain stupid.
The issue I think most of us have is the blatant ripping off of clickclack's design and the blatant disrespect of this community that k3 showed when he started posting here about his copycaps.
I've already explained how you don't hold anyone or yourself to that standard. Vader keycaps........
People keep saying they care about "counterfeiting" but they don't.
I see no explanation just you repeating what everyone always wants to throw up as some magical defense for what k3 is doing, that's been beaten to death and better explained elsewhere.
Post by: GSimon on Tue, 20 January 2015, 23:27:16
I've already explained how you don't hold anyone or yourself to that standard. Vader keycaps........
People keep saying they care about "counterfeiting" but they don't.
For the sake of discourse:
The issue with the Vader keycaps (aside from K3KC's notoriety up until this point) is that they're exact, 1:1 copies of Clack's design, which admittedly/clearly infringed on the Star Wars copyright.
Users who do support Clack simply don't appreciate how K3 replicated the Vader keycap to where it's indistinguishable from Clack's mold. Legalities aside that's where they stand, and it seems understandable that they would rather support the original maker of that keycap vs. K3 who hasn't contributed original designs & creations to the community.
Also there is the case that artisans like Clack may potentially cease to produce new designs due to fear of imitations in the future. As unlikely as this may be it is another reason why there is the disdain for K3, as it removes some of the incentive for new creations in the future if they can be imitated and re-sold without consequence.
Post by: Juicin on Tue, 20 January 2015, 23:44:36
Stealing everyone but your buddies IP is cool
Post by: GSimon on Tue, 20 January 2015, 23:52:50
Yea I get it
Stealing everyone but your buddies IP is cool
It's a form of fan art, which many industries don't have a problem with. The Star Wars brand isn't trying to corner the market on keycaps, and if they were they and their fan base could take issue with Clack's cap if they so desired.
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 20 January 2015, 23:55:30
Yea I get it
Stealing everyone but your buddies IP is cool
(http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/30873690/images/1395007976420.gif)
Post by: jwaz on Wed, 21 January 2015, 00:01:17
Yea I get it
Stealing everyone but your buddies IP is cool
Can you really not differentiate between featuring a cultural icon in your art vs making a straight up bootleg?
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 21 January 2015, 00:07:13
Yea I get it
Stealing everyone but your buddies IP is cool
Can you really not differentiate between featuring a cultural icon in your art vs making a straight up bootleg?
At this point, I'm doubting he knows his left from his right.
Post by: whentheclouds on Wed, 21 January 2015, 00:11:43
- i'm allowed to make fake caps cos the guy i'm copying from didn't use an original design
- Stalin being a cruel dictator was a-ok cos he didn't kill as many people as Hitler
- this thief broke into my house and stole my fake Clack, i should be allowed to chop his head off, enslave his wife and deport his children to Africa
Post by: Juicin on Wed, 21 January 2015, 00:23:27
2 wrongs = 1 right, the go to excuse of 21st century citizens
- i'm allowed to make fake caps cos the guy i'm copying from didn't use an original design
- Stalin being a cruel dictator was a-ok cos he didn't kill as many people as Hitler
- this thief broke into my house and stole my fake Clack, i should be allowed to chop his head off, enslave his wife and deport his children to Africa
Do you support mass murder?
You might be a hypocrite on that issue too
But no one but you has lead me to believe that.
You don't violate* the principal of don't kill people every day.
You violate other people's IP every day.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 21 January 2015, 00:53:57
2 wrongs = 1 right, the go to excuse of 21st century citizens
- i'm allowed to make fake caps cos the guy i'm copying from didn't use an original design
- Stalin being a cruel dictator was a-ok cos he didn't kill as many people as Hitler
- this thief broke into my house and stole my fake Clack, i should be allowed to chop his head off, enslave his wife and deport his children to Africa
Do you support mass murder?
You might be a hypocrite on that issue too
But no one but you has lead me to believe that.
You don't violate* the principal of don't kill people every day.
You violate other people's IP every day.
Clacks = mass murder
News to me.
Your IP address wouldn't happen to be Portland-based, would it?
But seriously, the Vaders aren't as big an issue as the skulls.
The CC skull is, in fact, an original design. This is stated by the man himself in his FAQ thread.
Copying an original design? Hmmmm...
"But TS CC copied the image of Darth Vader for profit and profit only!"
Yeah, and the government is controlled by lizard people. He's not ripping it off for his own benefitz he's doing it because he likes star wars and wants to make his own tribute.
This is similar to what happens in the clothing industry. People want Yeezys? Make blatant fakes and sell them at stupid low prices. Will people call you out for wearing fake clothes? ABSOLUTELY YES. It's similar to this. K3 can keep on making his **** quality fakes, but we'll just keep ****ting on the people who buy them.
It's not that ****ing hard.
And GH is entirely run on donations and volunteer moderation. There is not a single sponsor telling any of the staff what to do. And that's a fact any mod or admin will verify for you, and they''ll do it with pride.
We don't like when people come here with no posts, act like they've been here for years and talk down to people. That doesn't fly here, and it won't fly anywhere else. Do you even know the real reason retspiR was banned? Do you even know what demik or Hoffman's rrelations are to CC? Do you even know what we did to the last guy who tried to make fakes?
Sit down, shut up, and let the people who know both sides of the issue solve it.
Or, better yet, keep blindly preaching the church of retspiR. It entertains me.
I'm a little salty. You're just so ****ing dumb.
Demik at least has solid counters to most everything. You just keep saying "muh vaders" and whine about how **** you think we are.
I'd keep going, but it's 2 AM and I have something worthwhile to do tomorrow.
Good day sir.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 21 January 2015, 00:54:33
Post by: Juicin on Wed, 21 January 2015, 01:34:24
2 wrongs = 1 right, the go to excuse of 21st century citizens
- i'm allowed to make fake caps cos the guy i'm copying from didn't use an original design
- Stalin being a cruel dictator was a-ok cos he didn't kill as many people as Hitler
- this thief broke into my house and stole my fake Clack, i should be allowed to chop his head off, enslave his wife and deport his children to Africa
Do you support mass murder?
You might be a hypocrite on that issue too
But no one but you has lead me to believe that.
You don't violate* the principal of don't kill people every day.
You violate other people's IP every day.
Clacks = mass murder
News to me.
Your IP address wouldn't happen to be Portland-based, would it?
But seriously, the Vaders aren't as big an issue as the skulls.
The CC skull is, in fact, an original design. This is stated by the man himself in his FAQ thread.
Copying an original design? Hmmmm...
"But TS CC copied the image of Darth Vader for profit and profit only!"
Yeah, and the government is controlled by lizard people. He's not ripping it off for his own benefitz he's doing it because he likes star wars and wants to make his own tribute.
This is similar to what happens in the clothing industry. People want Yeezys? Make blatant fakes and sell them at stupid low prices. Will people call you out for wearing fake clothes? ABSOLUTELY YES. It's similar to this. K3 can keep on making his **** quality fakes, but we'll just keep ****ting on the people who buy them.
It's not that ****ing hard.
And GH is entirely run on donations and volunteer moderation. There is not a single sponsor telling any of the staff what to do. And that's a fact any mod or admin will verify for you, and they''ll do it with pride.
We don't like when people come here with no posts, act like they've been here for years and talk down to people. That doesn't fly here, and it won't fly anywhere else. Do you even know the real reason retspiR was banned? Do you even know what demik or Hoffman's rrelations are to CC? Do you even know what we did to the last guy who tried to make fakes?
Sit down, shut up, and let the people who know both sides of the issue solve it.
Or, better yet, keep blindly preaching the church of retspiR. It entertains me.
I'm a little salty. You're just so ****ing dumb.
Demik at least has solid counters to most everything. You just keep saying "muh vaders" and whine about how **** you think we are.
I'd keep going, but it's 2 AM and I have something worthwhile to do tomorrow.
Good day sir.
He alluded to Stalin and Hitler in this ****ing discussion. That's where the mass murder came up.
Can you read?
I've already explained to you.
YOu have no evidence he has violated any laws.
And more importantly you spit on intellectual property rights constantly.
you're a hypocrite. People on the internet spit on copyright all the time.
This isn't some ground breaking position. You shouldn't b surprised to hear it.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 21 January 2015, 01:50:28
Also, maybe do some reading on CC's ownership of the skull design he uses. It's not like that info is easily available or anything.
Post by: Juicin on Wed, 21 January 2015, 01:53:19
You didn't answer my questions. That tells me everything I need.
Also, maybe do some reading on CC's ownership of the skull design he uses. It's not like that info is easily available or anything.
That's a very convincing argument
Have fun winding down with your pirated media
:thumb:
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 21 January 2015, 01:54:46
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 21 January 2015, 01:57:26
You didn't answer my questions. That tells me everything I need.
Also, maybe do some reading on CC's ownership of the skull design he uses. It's not like that info is easily available or anything.
That's a very convincing argument
Have fun winding down with your pirated media
:thumb:
I pay for everything because I support the people who mane the things I like.
That's why I have a clack and not a K3.
Show Image(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131125173857/custombionicle/images/4/41/Nyan_cat_troll_gif_by_lookincool45-d53v8j8.gif)
This is not salt.
Post by: Signature on Wed, 21 January 2015, 01:58:14
(http://i.imgur.com/C8VrI9I.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/vG9WQ6u.jpg)
Post by: Juicin on Wed, 21 January 2015, 01:59:59
You didn't answer my questions. That tells me everything I need.
Also, maybe do some reading on CC's ownership of the skull design he uses. It's not like that info is easily available or anything.
That's a very convincing argument
Have fun winding down with your pirated media
:thumb:
I pay for everything because I support the people who mane the things I like.
That's why I have a clack and not a K3.Show Image(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131125173857/custombionicle/images/4/41/Nyan_cat_troll_gif_by_lookincool45-d53v8j8.gif)
This is not salt.
yup you don't use youtube or any streaming platform, don't use pirated music, and you CERTAINLY don't enjoy art that has anything resembling violation of IP
LOL
Fantasy land
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 21 January 2015, 02:01:42
Post by: Juicin on Wed, 21 January 2015, 02:02:48
Hold on, your reddit username wouldn't happen to start with G and end in N, would it?
Starts with an M
I literally started on this today
You're not going to find me talking about any sort of artisan caps on any account before today.
Not that it's relevant, tell me more about how much you respect IP
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 21 January 2015, 02:05:18
My friend recently recieved this clack as a gift and he is not sure if it's real or not. I couldn't tell but can you help?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/C8VrI9I.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vG9WQ6u.jpg)
I'm calling fake.
Hold on, your reddit username wouldn't happen to start with G and end in N, would it?
I'm guessing ManiFex.
In any case, they're gagging on rippy roos d (lower case because it's tiny) and not going to listen to logic or reason. All you're doing is feeding the troll.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 21 January 2015, 02:06:20
I don't think I understand you, retspiR's **** is too deep in your mouth.
I think I've left enough humor for everyone else to wake up to. My work here is done.
Post by: Juicin on Wed, 21 January 2015, 02:11:03
Ah, even better. That's much more fun.
I don't think I understand you, retspiR's **** is too deep in your mouth.
I think I've left enough humor for everyone else to wake up to. My work here is done.
Woman I told you Reddit is a place for shills
I come to places like geekhack because you nerds have time to call each other out
On reddit posts die too quickly, and it's extremely hard to search
Your site shoudl be in theory better.
But you have anti consumer threads that seem absurd to outsiders who frequent the internet.
You have this keycap makers **** in your mouth, I have no stake in the petty beefs between keyboard enthusiast cliques*.
it's just amusing some guy has seemingly dedicated his free time to trolling you over it. I'm not sure if that was what hte original spat was over. But I am on his side if it was.
I get the impression that you people are bickering over something unrelated to artisan keycaps though.
Again not relevant.
Tell me again how you manage to not violent IP every day of your life? Do you think ignorance is a defense?
I don't see anything wrong with it, but you apparnetly do.
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 21 January 2015, 02:23:31
Post by: Juicin on Wed, 21 January 2015, 03:05:06
Ah, even better. That's much more fun.
I don't think I understand you, retspiR's **** is too deep in your mouth.
I think I've left enough humor for everyone else to wake up to. My work here is done.
I know you saw that comment you logged out 15 minutes later
try not to violate anyones rights while you're going to bed
:thumb:
People need to get better at the internet
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 21 January 2015, 03:24:58
My friend recently recieved this clack as a gift and he is not sure if it's real or not. I couldn't tell but can you help?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/C8VrI9I.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vG9WQ6u.jpg)
Similar to Aqua Translucent but much more transparent.
http://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=Click_Clack
Might need CC to give a final verdict on this one.
Post by: fanpeople on Wed, 21 January 2015, 03:35:19
2 wrongs = 1 right, the go to excuse of 21st century citizens
- i'm allowed to make fake caps cos the guy i'm copying from didn't use an original design
- Stalin being a cruel dictator was a-ok cos he didn't kill as many people as Hitler
- this thief broke into my house and stole my fake Clack, i should be allowed to chop his head off, enslave his wife and deport his children to Africa
I thought it was generally considered that Stalin was responsible for the deaths of more people than Hitler. I may be wrong, then again it is probably subjective in that you could in theory include allied deaths during WWII and raise the number. Alternatively you could include the holocaust and similar only, or any other combination.
Then again Hitler killed himself, I don't think Stalin ever killed anyone in this case Hitler 1-Stalin-0.
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 21 January 2015, 03:38:37
2 wrongs = 1 right, the go to excuse of 21st century citizens
- i'm allowed to make fake caps cos the guy i'm copying from didn't use an original design
- Stalin being a cruel dictator was a-ok cos he didn't kill as many people as Hitler
- this thief broke into my house and stole my fake Clack, i should be allowed to chop his head off, enslave his wife and deport his children to Africa
I thought it was generally considered that Stalin was responsible for the deaths of more people than Hitler. I may be wrong, then again it is probably subjective in that you could in theory include allied deaths during WWII and raise the number. Alternatively you could include the holocaust and similar only, or any other combination.
Then again Hitler killed himself, I don't think Stalin ever killed anyone in this case Hitler 1-Stalin-0.
And did either of them amass Clacks before they died?
I don't think so!
Post by: fanpeople on Wed, 21 January 2015, 03:40:00
2 wrongs = 1 right, the go to excuse of 21st century citizens
- i'm allowed to make fake caps cos the guy i'm copying from didn't use an original design
- Stalin being a cruel dictator was a-ok cos he didn't kill as many people as Hitler
- this thief broke into my house and stole my fake Clack, i should be allowed to chop his head off, enslave his wife and deport his children to Africa
I thought it was generally considered that Stalin was responsible for the deaths of more people than Hitler. I may be wrong, then again it is probably subjective in that you could in theory include allied deaths during WWII and raise the number. Alternatively you could include the holocaust and similar only, or any other combination.
Then again Hitler killed himself, I don't think Stalin ever killed anyone in this case Hitler 1-Stalin-0.
And did either of them amass Clacks before they died?
I don't think so!
Well if they did I doubt they would have been fakes.
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 21 January 2015, 04:44:35
though I think we should auto ban people
who double line space
becasue it ****ing sucks
to
read
amrite?
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 21 January 2015, 04:46:25
m8s this thread is amazing
though I think we should auto ban people
who double line space
becasue it ****ing sucks
to
read
amrite?
What
About
Triple
Line
Spacing?
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 21 January 2015, 04:47:30
m8s this thread is amazing
though I think we should auto ban people
who double line space
becasue it ****ing sucks
to
read
amrite?
What
About
Triple
Line
Spacing?
well
that
is
something
I
can get
behind
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 21 January 2015, 04:48:56
m8s this thread is amazing
though I think we should auto ban people
who double line space
becasue it ****ing sucks
to
read
amrite?
What
About
Triple
Line
Spacing?
well
that
is
something
I
can get
behind
Oh
My
;)
Post by: Juicin on Wed, 21 January 2015, 05:17:28
Killed
Way
More
People.
And
Shouldn't
You
Boys
Be
Fighting
Pirates
Instead
Of
Typing
Like
Me?
Post by: qwertydvorakcolemak on Wed, 21 January 2015, 06:42:11
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 January 2015, 07:00:16
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 21 January 2015, 07:02:51
r/mk thinks
(http://i.imgur.com/7jkLPfj.gif)
Post by: Bromono on Wed, 21 January 2015, 07:07:39
Post by: R1N3 on Wed, 21 January 2015, 07:27:22
Where is brocaps and the popcorn?
I got you
(http://i.imgur.com/rHKaFtG.gif)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 21 January 2015, 07:34:31
In the meantime, it's fun to watch like it's fun to watch the monkeys at the zoo pick their butts and eat it.
Post by: Michael on Wed, 21 January 2015, 08:56:04
Where is brocaps and the popcorn?
You rang?
(http://i.imgur.com/9GT5Yqk.gif)
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 21 January 2015, 09:03:41
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 21 January 2015, 09:07:02
Show Image(http://wanna-joke.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/funny-gif-supernatural-meow.gif)
(http://img.pandawhale.com/116381-super-troopers-nimbly-bimbly-g-E6jf.gif)
Post by: bazh on Wed, 21 January 2015, 09:18:09
Show Image(http://wanna-joke.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/funny-gif-supernatural-meow.gif)
I actually 'meow' along to this, is that normal?
Post by: Michael on Wed, 21 January 2015, 09:21:13
Show Image(http://wanna-joke.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/funny-gif-supernatural-meow.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/9IY5DHk.gif)
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 21 January 2015, 09:22:25
Show Image(http://wanna-joke.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/funny-gif-supernatural-meow.gif)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/9IY5DHk.gif)
(http://replygif.net/i/172.gif)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 21 January 2015, 09:24:18
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 21 January 2015, 09:26:22
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 21 January 2015, 09:26:54
Post by: Michael on Wed, 21 January 2015, 09:29:32
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 January 2015, 09:32:03
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 21 January 2015, 09:32:03
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 21 January 2015, 09:32:18
Show Image(http://replygif.net/i/872.gif)
dammit ray! :P
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 January 2015, 09:33:10
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 21 January 2015, 09:33:19
Post by: SlightlierDoor on Wed, 21 January 2015, 09:41:01
This is my first post, spending over an hour reading this thread motivated me to write.
No one in this thread seems to respect copyright.
Any obfuscation of that fact is absurd. "It's a moral issue" lol
The only relevant argument I've heard for not buying the fake clacks is "You wouldn't pirate an album your friend just released"
Which is relevant only if you have a connection to the creator.
I just don't understand all this fuss. If kecap makers want to make more money they need to produce more or sell them for more money. Complaining about copyright infringement when you're in spirit doing the same thing, and have no capital to pursue those claims. It just doesn't make any sense.
It's anti consumer. And most of us are consumers. Why would I not support some one flooding the market with from a layman's perspective basically identical product line.
People talk about sales in threads, I seem them all the time in the forum. I can't imagine why counterfeits at a lower price which aren't a pain in the ass to get would sell well.......
CC makes what he can, just because someone else *can* make his designs doesn't mean we want them. The beauty of CC's work is in the details, apart from Bro Caps I've never seen any other artisan caps that looks as clean as a Clack. They've all got some minor imperfection, ****ty color choice etc that puts me off and that INCLUDES K3KC's knock offs.
ehh I'd put CC at least third in keycap quality because you can still see how some designs are fairly rough and not as polished. I think tied for 1st/2nd is the Brocaps and Hotkeys. Both deliver top notch products that every crease, curve and corner is very crisp and defined.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 January 2015, 09:45:44
This is my first post, spending over an hour reading this thread motivated me to write.
No one in this thread seems to respect copyright.
Any obfuscation of that fact is absurd. "It's a moral issue" lol
The only relevant argument I've heard for not buying the fake clacks is "You wouldn't pirate an album your friend just released"
Which is relevant only if you have a connection to the creator.
I just don't understand all this fuss. If kecap makers want to make more money they need to produce more or sell them for more money. Complaining about copyright infringement when you're in spirit doing the same thing, and have no capital to pursue those claims. It just doesn't make any sense.
It's anti consumer. And most of us are consumers. Why would I not support some one flooding the market with from a layman's perspective basically identical product line.
People talk about sales in threads, I seem them all the time in the forum. I can't imagine why counterfeits at a lower price which aren't a pain in the ass to get would sell well.......
CC makes what he can, just because someone else *can* make his designs doesn't mean we want them. The beauty of CC's work is in the details, apart from Bro Caps I've never seen any other artisan caps that looks as clean as a Clack. They've all got some minor imperfection, ****ty color choice etc that puts me off and that INCLUDES K3KC's knock offs.
ehh I'd put CC at least third in keycap quality because you can still see how some designs are fairly rough and not as polished. I think tied for 1st/2nd is the Brocaps and Hotkeys. Both deliver top notch products that every crease, curve and corner is very crisp and defined.
I would say that CC's designs look like they do on purpose not due to any lack of refinement.
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 21 January 2015, 09:46:18
This is my first post, spending over an hour reading this thread motivated me to write.
No one in this thread seems to respect copyright.
Any obfuscation of that fact is absurd. "It's a moral issue" lol
The only relevant argument I've heard for not buying the fake clacks is "You wouldn't pirate an album your friend just released"
Which is relevant only if you have a connection to the creator.
I just don't understand all this fuss. If kecap makers want to make more money they need to produce more or sell them for more money. Complaining about copyright infringement when you're in spirit doing the same thing, and have no capital to pursue those claims. It just doesn't make any sense.
It's anti consumer. And most of us are consumers. Why would I not support some one flooding the market with from a layman's perspective basically identical product line.
People talk about sales in threads, I seem them all the time in the forum. I can't imagine why counterfeits at a lower price which aren't a pain in the ass to get would sell well.......
CC makes what he can, just because someone else *can* make his designs doesn't mean we want them. The beauty of CC's work is in the details, apart from Bro Caps I've never seen any other artisan caps that looks as clean as a Clack. They've all got some minor imperfection, ****ty color choice etc that puts me off and that INCLUDES K3KC's knock offs.
ehh I'd put CC at least third in keycap quality because you can still see how some designs are fairly rough and not as polished. I think tied for 1st/2nd is the Brocaps and Hotkeys. Both deliver top notch products that every crease, curve and corner is very crisp and defined.
Have you even seen the Freedom Eagle?
Post by: rioc on Wed, 21 January 2015, 09:48:30
[...] The beauty of CC's work is in the details, apart from Bro Caps I've never seen any other artisan caps that looks as clean as a Clack. [...]
well, I wouldn't sign this. HotKeys Project also does astonishing work on his caps! (I prefer his more than Clacks or Bros since they seem more professional to me. (also, moving parts, how cool is that?))
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 21 January 2015, 09:50:08
[...] The beauty of CC's work is in the details, apart from Bro Caps I've never seen any other artisan caps that looks as clean as a Clack. [...]
well, I wouldn't sign this. HotKeys Project also does astonishing work on his caps! (I prefer his more than Clacks or Bros since they seem more professional to me. (also, moving parts, how cool is that?))
Have you even seen the Freedom Eagle?
Post by: Juicin on Wed, 21 January 2015, 14:53:49
This is my first post, spending over an hour reading this thread motivated me to write.
No one in this thread seems to respect copyright.
Any obfuscation of that fact is absurd. "It's a moral issue" lol
The only relevant argument I've heard for not buying the fake clacks is "You wouldn't pirate an album your friend just released"
Which is relevant only if you have a connection to the creator.
I just don't understand all this fuss. If kecap makers want to make more money they need to produce more or sell them for more money. Complaining about copyright infringement when you're in spirit doing the same thing, and have no capital to pursue those claims. It just doesn't make any sense.
It's anti consumer. And most of us are consumers. Why would I not support some one flooding the market with from a layman's perspective basically identical product line.
People talk about sales in threads, I seem them all the time in the forum. I can't imagine why counterfeits at a lower price which aren't a pain in the ass to get would sell well.......
CC makes what he can, just because someone else *can* make his designs doesn't mean we want them. The beauty of CC's work is in the details, apart from Bro Caps I've never seen any other artisan caps that looks as clean as a Clack. They've all got some minor imperfection, ****ty color choice etc that puts me off and that INCLUDES K3KC's knock offs.
ehh I'd put CC at least third in keycap quality because you can still see how some designs are fairly rough and not as polished. I think tied for 1st/2nd is the Brocaps and Hotkeys. Both deliver top notch products that every crease, curve and corner is very crisp and defined.
They certanily aren't as well produced as the remakes
*thinks of vader cap*
IP lol
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 21 January 2015, 14:58:09
Post by: Michael on Wed, 21 January 2015, 14:59:09
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 January 2015, 15:01:11
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 21 January 2015, 15:03:19
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 21 January 2015, 15:03:48
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 21 January 2015, 15:57:49
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Photoshop
Post by: Michael on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:02:48
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:10:11
Before drawing conclusions about things based on an image posted on the internet, I think we should all read this wikipedia page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Photoshop
You mean all the photos on the internet are not real?? :eek:
Post by: Juicin on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:12:41
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/o06hC2G.gif)
HEY LOOK
This guy steals other people's IP and *****es when other's do it
What a joke
Hahaha
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:14:42
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/o06hC2G.gif)
HEY LOOK
This guy steals other people's IP and *****es when other's do it
What a joke
Hahaha
you are a special kind of stupid
Post by: Juicin on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:15:22
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/o06hC2G.gif)
HEY LOOK
This guy steals other people's IP and *****es when other's do it
What a joke
Hahaha
you are a special kind of stupid
Do you have the Optimus Prime keycap?
lol
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:16:38
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/o06hC2G.gif)
lol... yes!
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:16:54
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:18:03
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:20:27
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/o06hC2G.gif)
HEY LOOK
This guy steals other people's IP and *****es when other's do it
What a joke
Hahaha
you are a special kind of stupid
Do you have the Optimus Prime keycap?
lol
feel free to go back to lurking and not posting
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:21:23
Post by: Juicin on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:22:38
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/o06hC2G.gif)
HEY LOOK
This guy steals other people's IP and *****es when other's do it
What a joke
Hahaha
you are a special kind of stupid
Do you have the Optimus Prime keycap?
lol
feel free to go back to lurking and not posting
I'll take that as a yes
You do own the keycap that was made with some one elses IP
Pirate
Thief
Nazi
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:23:37
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:24:22
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/o06hC2G.gif)
HEY LOOK
This guy steals other people's IP and *****es when other's do it
What a joke
Hahaha
you are a special kind of stupid
Do you have the Optimus Prime keycap?
lol
feel free to go back to lurking and not posting
I'll take that as a yes
You do own the keycap that was made with some one elses IP
Pirate
Thief
Nazi
Currently I have none of brocaps caps in my collection. So now we know your stupid and simply an idiot who doesn't have a clue. Please leave we don't want you nor do we need you here.
Post by: demik on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:24:58
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/o06hC2G.gif)
HEY LOOK
This guy steals other people's IP and *****es when other's do it
What a joke
Hahaha
40 posts of white knighting.
youve spent more than a day trying to argue with people. and mostly getting ignored by popcorn gifs.
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:25:37
Post by: Juicin on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:30:04
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/o06hC2G.gif)
HEY LOOK
This guy steals other people's IP and *****es when other's do it
What a joke
Hahaha
you are a special kind of stupid
Do you have the Optimus Prime keycap?
lol
feel free to go back to lurking and not posting
I'll take that as a yes
You do own the keycap that was made with some one elses IP
Pirate
Thief
Nazi
Currently I have none of brocaps caps in my collection. So now we know your stupid and simply an idiot who doesn't have a clue. Please leave we don't want you nor do we need you here.
But you have no problem with it, Nazi
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:30:25
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:31:50
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:32:51
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/o06hC2G.gif)
HEY LOOK
This guy steals other people's IP and *****es when other's do it
What a joke
Hahaha
you are a special kind of stupid
Do you have the Optimus Prime keycap?
lol
feel free to go back to lurking and not posting
I'll take that as a yes
You do own the keycap that was made with some one elses IP
Pirate
Thief
Nazi
Currently I have none of brocaps caps in my collection. So now we know your stupid and simply an idiot who doesn't have a clue. Please leave we don't want you nor do we need you here.
But you have no problem with it, Nazi
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Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:33:25
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:37:42
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:38:34
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:40:24
Post by: demik on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:41:28
"showed them"
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:41:52
probably reclining in his chair thinkinghahaha
"showed them"
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:42:02
#FreeJuicin
He is free...
Free to **** off back to whatever hole he crawled out of.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:42:34
#FreeJuicin
He is free...
Free to **** off back to whatever hole he crawled out of.
[attachimg=1]
Post by: demik on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:43:41
#FreeJuicin
He is free...
Free to **** off back to whatever hole he crawled out of.
his mom?
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:43:44
probably reclining in his chair thinking
"showed them"
and then to type out his victory on geekwack on r/mk to get all dem votes
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:44:33
#FreeJuicin
He is free...
Free to **** off back to whatever hole he crawled out of.
his mom?
[attachimg=1]
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:44:59
i predict a flame thread for me on /r/mk in 3...2...
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:45:09
#FreeJuicin
He is free...
Free to **** off back to whatever hole he crawled out of.
Like I said to JD in skype. If he would've come up with a single intelligent argument, I would have considered letting him stay. He obviously doesn't know anything about history if he's calling someone both a pirate and Nazi, and berating other members (repeatedly...let's face it, we all take a shot at one another now and again) is unnecessary and not indicative of anyone with an education. He can go back to Tumblr and drown his sorrows in ****ty gifs and sjw posts.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:45:41
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:45:43
40 posts of white knighting.
youve spent more than a day trying to argue with people. and mostly getting ignored by popcorn gifs.
Is it white knighting if you go full retard and there are no damsels?
I think my favorite part of this thread is the gifs as response and juice freaking out on people over the gif. If only everyone had only posted gifs.
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:46:26
40 posts of white knighting.
youve spent more than a day trying to argue with people. and mostly getting ignored by popcorn gifs.
Is it white knighting if you go full retard and there are no damsels?
To me it sounds like some sort of sex act...
Post by: demik on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:46:40
probably reclining in his chair thinking
"showed them"
and then to type out his victory on geekwack on r/mk to get all dem votes
probably adding this to the misc part of his résumé
1/21/2015 - owned some geeks at interneting
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:46:49
40 posts of white knighting.
youve spent more than a day trying to argue with people. and mostly getting ignored by popcorn gifs.
Is it white knighting if you go full retard and there are no damsels?
I think my favorite part of this thread is the gifs as response and juice freaking out on people over the gif. If only everyone had only posted gifs.
That's what I was aiming for. Not everyone followed suit :(
Post by: Signature on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:47:59
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:49:15
lol @ Juicin3 watching the thread
He's gonna keep watchin ;)
...aaaaand he's off to create another account.
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:49:43
lol @ Juicin3 watching the thread
Frantically creating new accounts to keep posting ...
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:50:27
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:51:10
Who's Juicin3?
Juicin.
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:51:58
Who's Juicin3?
Juicin.
-_-
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:52:26
lol @ Juicin3 watching the threadlmao that's beautiful
(https://i.imgur.com/pTnFr8j.gif)
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:53:00
Who's Juicin3?
Juicin.
-_-
The best part is that the IP he switched to is linked to another banned account XD
Post by: Michael on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:54:03
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:54:25
Care to share who it is? ^-^Who's Juicin3?
Juicin.
-_-
The best part is that the IP he switched to is linked to another banned account XD
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:54:59
Care to share who it is? ^-^Who's Juicin3?
Juicin.
-_-
The best part is that the IP he switched to is linked to another banned account XD
Nah, that's all the information I'm sharing. It's not who you think it is.
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:55:44
Its..... LINKBANE!Care to share who it is? ^-^Who's Juicin3?
Juicin.
-_-
The best part is that the IP he switched to is linked to another banned account XD
Nah, that's all the information I'm sharing. It's not who you think it is.
right?
:-\
Post by: demik on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:56:17
> roids
> roid rage
> bullying internet geeks
rip in piece his keyboard. probably ****rry mx
Post by: Michael on Wed, 21 January 2015, 16:59:06
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 21 January 2015, 17:01:05
JUICEBANEExplains how he could type so fast
Post by: demik on Wed, 21 January 2015, 17:11:00
Post by: digi on Wed, 21 January 2015, 17:11:56
JUICEBANE
lol
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 21 January 2015, 17:12:58
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 21 January 2015, 17:50:52
JuiceCarpe
Post by: exitfire401 on Wed, 21 January 2015, 17:55:16
:eek:
JuiceCarpe
It all makes sense now :'(
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 21 January 2015, 18:12:01
DanJUICEWanG
I miss the wang :(
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 21 January 2015, 18:16:13
DanJUICEWanG
I miss the wang :(
2nd
Post by: strict on Wed, 21 January 2015, 18:16:55
DanJUICEWanG
I miss the wang :(
I dont have anything to add, this just needed to be quoted again
Post by: MessyCaps on Thu, 22 January 2015, 04:59:50
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 22 January 2015, 05:35:53
So k3 is going to sell fake Darth Vader clacks...
WAIT WHAT!!!?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 22 January 2015, 05:40:06
Don't you guys read the thread? That what got this going again.So k3 is going to sell fake Darth Vader clacks...
WAIT WHAT!!!?
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 22 January 2015, 05:41:03
WAIT WHAT?!!?!!?
...aww **** now its in italics
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 22 January 2015, 16:01:45
DanJUICEWanG
I miss the wang :(
I hope this isn't a touchy subject but what happened to him? He was gone by the time I started here but I used to read his blog.
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 22 January 2015, 16:34:16
Reddit was really on the ball with this sale I guess
Post by: exitfire401 on Thu, 22 January 2015, 16:41:13
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cWRuVeR.png)
Reddit was really on the ball with this sale I guess
Doesn't go on sale until tomorrow. He just puts the item up in advance. I've seen him do it with every sale.
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Thu, 22 January 2015, 16:43:21
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cWRuVeR.png)
Reddit was really on the ball with this sale I guess
Quote
Keycaps will in stock at Friday, 23 January 2015, 4:00 PM (Los Angeles time)
But they probably will be all over this... funny how there is so much complaining about "overpriced" artisans but a $35 clone is somehow reasonable :))
Post by: exitfire401 on Thu, 22 January 2015, 16:44:36
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cWRuVeR.png)
Reddit was really on the ball with this sale I guessQuoteKeycaps will in stock at Friday, 23 January 2015, 4:00 PM (Los Angeles time)
But they probably will be all over this... funny how there is so much complaining about "overpriced" artisans but a $35 clone is somehow reasonable :))
Right? It's pathetic.
Post by: Sniping on Thu, 22 January 2015, 16:45:36
Post by: MGH on Thu, 22 January 2015, 16:45:41
So hypocritical....they were complaining about $25 keycaps and now they're going to buy $35 ones :confused:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cWRuVeR.png)
Reddit was really on the ball with this sale I guessQuoteKeycaps will in stock at Friday, 23 January 2015, 4:00 PM (Los Angeles time)
But they probably will be all over this... funny how there is so much complaining about "overpriced" artisans but a $35 clone is somehow reasonable :))
Right? It's pathetic.
Post by: hwood34 on Thu, 22 January 2015, 16:51:31
Post by: exitfire401 on Thu, 22 January 2015, 16:52:18
Oh **** alright gotta set my alarm
Yours isn't set yet? Filthy casual.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 22 January 2015, 17:05:28
DanJUICEWanG
I miss the wang :(
I hope this isn't a touchy subject but what happened to him? He was gone by the time I started here but I used to read his blog.
Self-ban.
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 22 January 2015, 17:07:28
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 22 January 2015, 17:10:36
Doesn't take him long to copy something - imagine what he could do if he created an original design.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 22 January 2015, 17:14:02
Need a pink one called Darth Valentine :))
Doesn't take him long to copy something - imagine what he could do if he created an original design.
It's a lot easier to copy things. I suspect an original design would take much longer and not be as good (see DOTA cap).
Post by: strict on Thu, 22 January 2015, 17:17:43
Need a pink one called Darth Valentine :))
Doesn't take him long to copy something - imagine what he could do if he created an original design.
It's a lot easier to copy things. I suspect an original design would take much longer and not be as good (see DOTA cap).
I vaguely remember reading somewhere that even his DOTA cap is a clone.
Darth Vander lol
Post by: MJ45 on Thu, 22 January 2015, 17:21:21
can't even spell darth vader right lmaoMiss spelled on purpose to avoid copyright issues from Disney or Lucas films. :p
Post by: exitfire401 on Thu, 22 January 2015, 17:21:50
can't even spell darth vader right lmaoMiss spelled on purpose to avoid copyright issues from Disney or Lucas films. :p
That'll fool 'em!
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 22 January 2015, 19:09:26
DanJUICEWanG
I miss the wang :(
I hope this isn't a touchy subject but what happened to him? He was gone by the time I started here but I used to read his blog.
Self-ban.
That sucks, his blog makes him seem like a bro.
Post by: exitfire401 on Thu, 22 January 2015, 19:10:50
DanJUICEWanG
I miss the wang :(
I hope this isn't a touchy subject but what happened to him? He was gone by the time I started here but I used to read his blog.
Self-ban.
That sucks, his blog makes him seem like a bro.
He was pretty chill from what I remember prior to his departure.
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 22 January 2015, 19:11:25
DanJUICEWanG
I miss the wang :(
I hope this isn't a touchy subject but what happened to him? He was gone by the time I started here but I used to read his blog.
Self-ban.
That sucks, his blog makes him seem like a bro.
He was pretty chill from what I remember prior to his departure.
I miss his yellow fever thread.
Post by: IPT on Fri, 23 January 2015, 10:45:43
He was pretty chill from what I remember prior to his departure.
then he went all nuclear and hypocritical before he left.
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 January 2015, 10:56:40
yall mfers need your bidness degrees from reddit university so you can understand hoe bidness works
how not hoe but im leaving it
I no longer know what goes on in this thread but I do know I laughed *a lot* at this.
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 23 January 2015, 11:46:15
yall mfers need your bidness degrees from reddit university so you can understand hoe bidness works
how not hoe but im leaving it
I no longer know what goes on in this thread but I do know I laughed *a lot* at this.
GIFs. Many many many GIFs.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 23 January 2015, 11:55:33
Post by: Michael on Fri, 23 January 2015, 11:57:42
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Fri, 23 January 2015, 12:01:32
Post by: exitfire401 on Fri, 23 January 2015, 12:02:37
(http://media.giphy.com/media/JDH83wGKCt6Uw/giphy.gif)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vJtOp6O.gif)
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Fri, 23 January 2015, 12:14:03
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 23 January 2015, 12:15:06
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vJtOp6O.gif)Show Image(http://media.giphy.com/media/JDH83wGKCt6Uw/giphy.gif)
(http://media.tumblr.com/d9d184e8f74943638bc1ab6d1c052e71/tumblr_inline_mglih7MhER1r7bjya.gif)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 23 January 2015, 12:18:02
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vJtOp6O.gif)
Bro, I gotta say you look....much different than I expected ;)
Post by: Michael on Fri, 23 January 2015, 12:55:43
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vJtOp6O.gif)
Bro, I gotta say you look....much different than I expected ;)
Thanks. I been working out
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 23 January 2015, 13:12:02
^^ guy who doesn't know any better buys a counterfeit cap.....expectation versus reality :))
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 23 January 2015, 13:36:25
can't even spell darth vader right lmao
Darth Vander Holyfield! Tyson eat his cybernetic ear off...
Post by: Michael on Fri, 23 January 2015, 13:39:44
Darth Vander Holyfield
(http://i.imgur.com/naZqhHs.jpg)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 23 January 2015, 13:51:32
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 23 January 2015, 14:05:36
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vJtOp6O.gif)
Is it me, or does she look like she is biting into a tennis ball?
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 23 January 2015, 14:16:07
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vJtOp6O.gif)
Is it me, or does she look like she is biting into a tennis ball?
Now that you point it out... She totally is.
Post by: Michael on Fri, 23 January 2015, 14:26:16
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vJtOp6O.gif)
Is it me, or does she look like she is biting into a tennis ball?
Now that you point it out... She totally is.
Natalie Dormer can eat whatever she likes, imo.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 23 January 2015, 14:27:01
+1 YepShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/vJtOp6O.gif)
Is it me, or does she look like she is biting into a tennis ball?
Now that you point it out... She totally is.
Natalie Dormer can eat whatever she likes, imo.
Post by: exitfire401 on Fri, 23 January 2015, 14:29:23
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vJtOp6O.gif)
Is it me, or does she look like she is biting into a tennis ball?
Now that you point it out... She totally is.
Natalie Dormer can eat whatever she likes, imo.
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/4ba3003e8ececbb660e3c89cf4ba3bd7/tumblr_nfpm388vIb1u0bx9po1_500.gif)
Post by: demik on Fri, 23 January 2015, 14:29:28
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vJtOp6O.gif)
Is it me, or does she look like she is biting into a tennis ball?
Now that you point it out... She totally is.
Natalie Dormer can eat whatever she likes, imo.
like my.....
lunch.
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 23 January 2015, 14:32:30
Post by: Michael on Fri, 23 January 2015, 14:34:45
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vJtOp6O.gif)
Is it me, or does she look like she is biting into a tennis ball?
Now that you point it out... She totally is.
Natalie Dormer can eat whatever she likes, imo.
like my.....
lunch.
(•_•) / ( •_•)>⌐■-■ / (⌐■_■)
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 23 January 2015, 15:58:49
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vJtOp6O.gif)
Is it me, or does she look like she is biting into a tennis ball?
Now that you point it out... She totally is.
Natalie Dormer can eat whatever she likes, imo.
like my.....
lunch.
Her face at the end is perfect. I guess demik's "lunch" could have been better
(http://i.imgur.com/hUcT2AM.gif)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Sat, 24 January 2015, 09:29:03
Post by: Michael on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:07:59
(http://i.imgur.com/qgvuY98.gif)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Sat, 24 January 2015, 10:37:23
Vesper be like...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qgvuY98.gif)
It's too true...
(http://i56.tinypic.com/10mj80h.jpg)
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:19:57
Post by: Michael on Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:23:11
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:28:27
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/520/379/22c.gif)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Nocc7ww.gif)
Post by: Michael on Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:29:54
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Nocc7ww.gif)Show Image(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/520/379/22c.gif)
(https://i.imgur.com/UKF9NqZ.jpg)
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:30:49
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Nocc7ww.gif)Show Image(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/520/379/22c.gif)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/UKF9NqZ.jpg)
(http://media0.giphy.com/media/tvHbsAxQnA4EM/giphy.gif)
Post by: Michael on Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:31:58
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:32:18
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MhhU9rFXwMs/UdJd4iiMpdI/AAAAAAAAQZM/YpFGULYyxmI/s323/sp2.gif)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Nocc7ww.gif)Show Image(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/520/379/22c.gif)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/UKF9NqZ.jpg)
Post by: trizkut on Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:32:45
Post by: Michael on Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:47:11
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:51:49
Post by: Michael on Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:53:26
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:57:54
Post by: Michael on Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:59:02
Post by: demik on Sat, 24 January 2015, 20:01:30
Post by: Michael on Sat, 24 January 2015, 20:03:24
(http://i.imgur.com/tPIja7r.jpg)
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Sat, 24 January 2015, 20:05:40
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51797.0;attach=88584;image)
Post by: demik on Sat, 24 January 2015, 20:07:25
Post by: Michael on Sat, 24 January 2015, 20:07:28
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Sat, 24 January 2015, 20:10:26
Post by: Michael on Sat, 24 January 2015, 20:11:01
Post by: trizkut on Sat, 24 January 2015, 20:11:49
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 24 January 2015, 20:36:29
Show Image(http://media.giphy.com/media/BCixbQvEXq8lG/giphy.gif)
Toonces!
Post by: Michael on Sat, 24 January 2015, 20:52:57
(http://i.imgur.com/M363lpO.gif)
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 24 January 2015, 20:56:16
dedicated to TSShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/M363lpO.gif)
i hate fun i'm sorry
Post by: Michael on Sat, 24 January 2015, 20:57:04
dedicated to TSShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/M363lpO.gif)
i hate fun i'm sorry
(http://i.imgur.com/qga0Zjf.gif)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 24 January 2015, 21:25:37
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 24 January 2015, 21:43:40
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 26 January 2015, 00:16:57
dedicated to TSShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/M363lpO.gif)
i hate fun i'm sorry
(http://media2.giphy.com/media/vm955N4X7JH0I/giphy.gif)
Post by: Michael on Mon, 26 January 2015, 00:33:51
dedicated to TSShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/M363lpO.gif)
i hate fun i'm sorryShow Image(http://media2.giphy.com/media/vm955N4X7JH0I/giphy.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/ltZ8Xj0.gif)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 26 January 2015, 01:03:50
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ltZ8Xj0.gif)
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/patrick-eating.gif)
i should sleep too
Post by: drewba on Mon, 26 January 2015, 12:17:49
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 26 January 2015, 12:43:22
Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 26 January 2015, 12:48:13
Post by: Michael on Mon, 26 January 2015, 12:52:00
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 26 January 2015, 14:40:38
(http://i.imgur.com/ydvLRxH.jpg)
Post by: demik on Mon, 26 January 2015, 14:56:07
Post by: Michael on Mon, 26 January 2015, 14:57:32
Keanu gifs??? This is new~ Bring it on.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ydvLRxH.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/mH44uFu.gif)
Post by: demik on Mon, 26 January 2015, 14:59:06
Post by: Michael on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:01:17
Post by: demik on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:04:52
Post by: Michael on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:08:02
Post by: demik on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:09:17
Post by: Michael on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:12:26
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:13:13
Show Image(http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/shaking_head_disgust_keanu_reeves.gif)
Keanu gifs??? This is new~ Bring it on.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ydvLRxH.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mH44uFu.gif)
Show Image(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m94gi4uMhy1qmlth7o1_500.gif)
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oPX6eET.gif)
Show Image(http://media.tumblr.com/5512ceb1eeaff025136a4559599e4ab0/tumblr_inline_n9yooyMbEd1qgp297.gif)
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Zm5IiKT.gif)
Show Image(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqt7uz8vZl1qa9siqo1_500.gif)
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7LeLs9Y.gif)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jCLFUu1gtdg/VA53vF4-neI/AAAAAAAAA8w/RM-MM8QpNlA/s1600/Point%2BBreak.gif)
More
(http://i.imgur.com/hNmp9TC.jpg)
Post by: demik on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:13:40
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:15:28
Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:16:12
Post by: Michael on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:18:12
Post by: demik on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:20:14
Post by: Michael on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:22:06
Post by: demik on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:25:03
Post by: Michael on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:27:39
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:29:06
Post by: Michael on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:32:38
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:35:31
Post by: Michael on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:37:03
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:39:25
Show Image(http://media1.giphy.com/media/Gm15DgvotsAA8/200.gif)
That one is siiiiiiiick.
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq1k7vXsXk1qey9s7.gif)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:41:16
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:49:27
(https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnw6t5LMKb1qg4blro1_500.gif)
Post by: Michael on Mon, 26 January 2015, 15:50:59
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Tue, 27 January 2015, 17:58:47
Please, please, please correct me if I am incorrect, as I don't want to spread any misinformation.
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 27 January 2015, 18:07:11
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Tue, 27 January 2015, 18:20:40
^ lack of enforcement on behalf of the Vietnamese authorities, most likely.
we should send a squad of vigilante geekhackers
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 27 January 2015, 18:22:59
Clearly you didn't read the thread. That's already been proposed.^ lack of enforcement on behalf of the Vietnamese authorities, most likely.
we should send a squad of vigilante geekhackers
Post by: demik on Tue, 27 January 2015, 18:27:23
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 27 January 2015, 19:11:23
^ lack of enforcement on behalf of the Vietnamese authorities, most likely.
we should send a squad of vigilante geekhackers
I'll apply for my passport right now, if someone will fund the trip. :D
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Tue, 27 January 2015, 19:13:50
Post by: demik on Tue, 27 January 2015, 19:19:29
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 27 January 2015, 19:22:13
time to gather up a team of misfit vigilantesSomebody PM ethos, he'll be upset if he doesn't get to be on the team.
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 27 January 2015, 19:32:35
Post by: Firebolt1914 on Tue, 27 January 2015, 19:35:38
You guys know that Vietnam has 90 Million population right?
Yes, but we'll use our detective skillz and find the fake clack maker and serve justice :mad:
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 27 January 2015, 19:37:22
(http://i.imgur.com/exMQ950.gif)
Post by: demik on Tue, 27 January 2015, 19:44:51
You guys know that Vietnam has 90 Million population right?
bruh, when we arrive the locals will hand him in because they don't want no troubles.
Post by: IPT on Tue, 27 January 2015, 23:27:58
^ lack of enforcement on behalf of the Vietnamese authorities, most likely.
we should send a squad of vigilante geekhackers
I'll apply for my passport right now, if someone will fund the trip. :D
side note, any adult who can apply should actually have a valid passport
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 28 January 2015, 01:58:44
Post by: bueller on Wed, 28 January 2015, 02:00:48
Vaders? **** man. :confused:
Hey! That's not a gif.
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 28 January 2015, 02:04:45
Post by: bueller on Wed, 28 January 2015, 02:07:13
Show Image(http://33.media.tumblr.com/b2db7a9e157268e0f59b0b8cac4ea0dc/tumblr_n946boU9Tv1tf72i4o8_500.gif)
Ahhhh, that's better.
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 28 January 2015, 02:08:52
"YEEEEE"
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 28 January 2015, 02:16:15
because last time you muricans went to Vietnam it went so well ...^ lack of enforcement on behalf of the Vietnamese authorities, most likely.
we should send a squad of vigilante geekhackers
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 28 January 2015, 05:55:10
because last time you muricans went to Vietnam it went so well ...^ lack of enforcement on behalf of the Vietnamese authorities, most likely.
we should send a squad of vigilante geekhackers
Inappropriate, but true
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 28 January 2015, 07:08:52
because last time you muricans went to Vietnam it went so well ...^ lack of enforcement on behalf of the Vietnamese authorities, most likely.
we should send a squad of vigilante geekhackers
I seem to remember we were only there because the French couldn't take care of business...
;)
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 12 February 2015, 22:41:09
http://www.ebay.com/itm/K3-Official-DOTA-Ruby-MX-Keycap-/321666053152?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae4ca7420 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/K3-Official-DOTA-Ruby-MX-Keycap-/321666053152?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae4ca7420)
Post by: demik on Thu, 12 February 2015, 22:43:35
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 12 February 2015, 22:44:57
Post by: demik on Thu, 12 February 2015, 22:47:06
3funny5me
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 12 February 2015, 22:48:59
Post by: Michael on Thu, 12 February 2015, 22:49:49
I realize it's an 'ironic joke' or whatever the ****, but it makes you look like a scumbag HP. If that is in fact who's account it is... or someone who is trying to make Hipsterpunk look like a ****ty tool.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/K3-Official-DOTA-Ruby-MX-Keycap-/321666053152?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae4ca7420 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/K3-Official-DOTA-Ruby-MX-Keycap-/321666053152?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae4ca7420)
(http://i.imgur.com/VbCNI5B.jpg)
Post by: byker on Thu, 12 February 2015, 22:50:12
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 12 February 2015, 22:52:06
Post by: PunksDead on Thu, 12 February 2015, 22:53:02
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 12 February 2015, 22:53:16
BRB going to kick some puppies to make an ironic statement about people who abuse animals. For teh lulz
if anyone is actually stupid enough to purchase this cap, the proceeds will be sent to CC's paypal
Well that's not so bad then
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 12 February 2015, 22:55:00
if anyone is actually stupid enough to purchase this cap, the proceeds will be sent to CC's paypal
(http://img.pandawhale.com/post-34976-Felicia-Day-YAY-gif-tumblr-weh-GamD.gif)
I gave CC a tip in my win as a thanks for being awesome. I wish people actually gave him money when they sold Clacks for profit.
Post by: demik on Thu, 12 February 2015, 22:58:22
Oh OK, so if it were a less popular member everyone would be on this like flies on ****.
BRB going to kick some puppies to make an ironic statement about people who abuse animals. For teh lulzif anyone is actually stupid enough to purchase this cap, the proceeds will be sent to CC's paypal
Well that's not so bad then
> popular member
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 12 February 2015, 22:59:33
Oh OK, so if it were a less popular member everyone would be on this like flies on ****.
BRB going to kick some puppies to make an ironic statement about people who abuse animals. For teh lulzif anyone is actually stupid enough to purchase this cap, the proceeds will be sent to CC's paypal
Well that's not so bad then
> popular member
He explained it, conversation's over. Crawl back under your bridge.
Post by: demik on Thu, 12 February 2015, 23:01:21
hipster pls stop being a scumbag because you're going to hurt noisy's feelings
Post by: PunksDead on Thu, 12 February 2015, 23:02:22
Post by: demik on Thu, 12 February 2015, 23:03:02
wait a minute..
if anyone is actually stupid enough to purchase this cap, the proceeds will be sent to CC's paypalShow Image(http://img.pandawhale.com/post-34976-Felicia-Day-YAY-gif-tumblr-weh-GamD.gif)
I gave CC a tip in my win as a thanks for being awesome. I wish people actually gave him money when they sold Clacks for profit.
nubs, i like you.
but that is retarded.
Post by: Michael on Thu, 12 February 2015, 23:13:18
Oh OK, so if it were a less popular member everyone would be on this like flies on ****.
BRB going to kick some puppies to make an ironic statement about people who abuse animals. For teh lulzif anyone is actually stupid enough to purchase this cap, the proceeds will be sent to CC's paypal
Well that's not so bad then
> popular member
He explained it, conversation's over. Crawl back under your bridge.
Let's just settle down now, Rustle Crowe
(http://i.imgur.com/RM9hy4u.jpg)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 12 February 2015, 23:15:52
Post by: cmadrid on Thu, 12 February 2015, 23:29:03
Post by: trizkut on Thu, 12 February 2015, 23:42:53
Post by: clack4life on Fri, 13 February 2015, 00:25:04
http://2.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43792103950&spm=a230r.1.14.1.PL9ieE&ns=1&abbucket=5#detail (http://2.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43792103950&spm=a230r.1.14.1.PL9ieE&ns=1&abbucket=5#detail)
Post by: bueller on Fri, 13 February 2015, 00:28:45
Speaking of fake clacks...
http://2.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43792103950&spm=a230r.1.14.1.PL9ieE&ns=1&abbucket=5#detail (http://2.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43792103950&spm=a230r.1.14.1.PL9ieE&ns=1&abbucket=5#detail)
****s sake, look at the other items too :(
http://s.2.taobao.com/list/list.htm?spm=2007.1000338.6.1.zNIdlP&usernick=qzf_toya
I hate these mother****ers.
Post by: Michael on Fri, 13 February 2015, 00:29:04
Speaking of fake clacks...
http://2.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43792103950&spm=a230r.1.14.1.PL9ieE&ns=1&abbucket=5#detail (http://2.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43792103950&spm=a230r.1.14.1.PL9ieE&ns=1&abbucket=5#detail)
(http://i.imgur.com/VbCNI5B.jpg)
Post by: demik on Fri, 13 February 2015, 00:35:15
holy **** that's ugly
Post by: Fire Brand on Fri, 13 February 2015, 07:08:21
Speaking of fake clacks...
http://2.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43792103950&spm=a230r.1.14.1.PL9ieE&ns=1&abbucket=5#detail (http://2.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43792103950&spm=a230r.1.14.1.PL9ieE&ns=1&abbucket=5#detail)
****s sake, look at the other items too :(
http://s.2.taobao.com/list/list.htm?spm=2007.1000338.6.1.zNIdlP&usernick=qzf_toya
I hate these mother****ers.
:X Eeeeep
Also just checked the price sweet Jesus that's one expensive bro O.O
Post by: limitz on Tue, 17 February 2015, 17:12:46
Most items priced obscenely on Taobao are meant for the seller to make a counteroffer.
For example, the same seller has a Valentine set for sale listed at "6666 CNY", which is clearly ridiculous. He means that you should message him directly and make an offer.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 18 February 2015, 01:09:14
I was shown photos by a member of KBC who wants to remain anonymous. (And, annoyingly, has asked me not to share the photos)
There are still some imperfections (like in what he has now), but if you're not looking, you just might miss it...
That's all I've got for now. Ta.
Post by: bueller on Wed, 18 February 2015, 01:22:54
He can and has made clones with CCs logo on them.
I was shown photos by a member of KBC who wants to remain anonymous. (And, annoyingly, has asked me not to share the photos)
There are still some imperfections (like in what he has now), but if you're not looking, you just might miss it...
That's all I've got for now. Ta.
I'm starting to wonder whether that F2 Drunken is one of his. Would make sense that he'd try to cover up his ****ty work by stamping them as F2's.
Post by: naasfu on Wed, 18 February 2015, 01:42:14
He can and has made clones with CCs logo on them.
I was shown photos by a member of KBC who wants to remain anonymous. (And, annoyingly, has asked me not to share the photos)
There are still some imperfections (like in what he has now), but if you're not looking, you just might miss it...
That's all I've got for now. Ta.
I'm starting to wonder whether that F2 Drunken is one of his. Would make sense that he'd try to cover up his ****ty work by stamping them as F2's.
Belfong got the F2 Drunken from a reputable source. It's the real deal. :)
Post by: bueller on Wed, 18 February 2015, 01:44:17
He can and has made clones with CCs logo on them.
I was shown photos by a member of KBC who wants to remain anonymous. (And, annoyingly, has asked me not to share the photos)
There are still some imperfections (like in what he has now), but if you're not looking, you just might miss it...
That's all I've got for now. Ta.
I'm starting to wonder whether that F2 Drunken is one of his. Would make sense that he'd try to cover up his ****ty work by stamping them as F2's.
Belfong got the F2 Drunken from a reputable source. It's the real deal. :)
Fair call. Makes me worry about doing trades in future though. Might have to keep it to people I know or people who can prove they got the item from CC.
Post by: naasfu on Wed, 18 February 2015, 01:46:54
He can and has made clones with CCs logo on them.
I was shown photos by a member of KBC who wants to remain anonymous. (And, annoyingly, has asked me not to share the photos)
There are still some imperfections (like in what he has now), but if you're not looking, you just might miss it...
That's all I've got for now. Ta.
I'm starting to wonder whether that F2 Drunken is one of his. Would make sense that he'd try to cover up his ****ty work by stamping them as F2's.
Belfong got the F2 Drunken from a reputable source. It's the real deal. :)
Fair call. Makes me worry about doing trades in future though. Might have to keep it to people I know or people who can prove they got the item from CC.
Yes, definitely. I know I'm starting to get paranoid about trading/buying CCs now.
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 18 February 2015, 01:53:43
I didn't even notice that taobao link in this thread and now it gave me pause for future purchases. How can one even get assured these days?
Post by: bueller on Wed, 18 February 2015, 01:55:23
Mine is totally legit. Bought it from a verified source that will only do CONUS only which was the reason I was forced to use Borderlinx proxy service. I can definitely understand how it might look like, me being in Asia and all.
I didn't even notice that taobao link in this thread and now it gave me pause for future purchases. How can one even get assured these days?
Oh don't get me wrong man, that wasn't in any way meant to insinuate anything towards you. I was more worried you'd been scammed.
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 18 February 2015, 02:46:35
Thanks man, I appreciate the concern :-*Mine is totally legit. Bought it from a verified source that will only do CONUS only which was the reason I was forced to use Borderlinx proxy service. I can definitely understand how it might look like, me being in Asia and all.
I didn't even notice that taobao link in this thread and now it gave me pause for future purchases. How can one even get assured these days?
Oh don't get me wrong man, that wasn't in any way meant to insinuate anything towards you. I was more worried you'd been scammed.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 18 February 2015, 08:21:58
He can and has made clones with CCs logo on them.
I was shown photos by a member of KBC who wants to remain anonymous. (And, annoyingly, has asked me not to share the photos)
There are still some imperfections (like in what he has now), but if you're not looking, you just might miss it...
That's all I've got for now. Ta.
I'm starting to wonder whether that F2 Drunken is one of his. Would make sense that he'd try to cover up his ****ty work by stamping them as F2's.
Belfong got the F2 Drunken from a reputable source. It's the real deal. :)
Fair call. Makes me worry about doing trades in future though. Might have to keep it to people I know or people who can prove they got the item from CC.
Yep. Makes it real sketchy to trade anything now. :( Maybe CC can start offering certificates of authenticity. :-\
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 18 February 2015, 09:38:00
If I get anything new I'll let you know.
Post by: Michael on Wed, 18 February 2015, 10:02:35
As far as I know, he only made 1 or 2. I've been talking with the Vietnamese guys to see if I can get more.
If I get anything new I'll let you know.
(http://i.imgur.com/ZYihgpQ.jpg)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 18 February 2015, 10:10:37
As far as I know, he only made 1 or 2. I've been talking with the Vietnamese guys to see if I can get more.
If I get anything new I'll let you know.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZYihgpQ.jpg)
It's a triangle right.....right....guys.....
Post by: digi on Wed, 18 February 2015, 10:21:14
LOL, is that like $100 US dollars for some fake clacks?? That's a hole new level of trolling...Introduce fake clacks, troll = #1, sell them for ludicrous prices = troll #2...360 no-scope troll confirmed..
Post by: Fire Brand on Wed, 18 February 2015, 10:25:50
Also I assume that's what you were referring to as well Ray, I am also confused O.o
PS I do like your voice though :p
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 18 February 2015, 11:29:15
you always just seem to babble about a load of crap
:triangle:
Post by: Fire Brand on Wed, 18 February 2015, 11:36:25
you always just seem to babble about a load of crap
:triangle:
I'm more of a Circle man my self Hoff :p
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 18 February 2015, 11:42:00
you always just seem to babble about a load of crap
:triangle:
I'm more of a Circle man my self Hoff :p
Circle is love
Circle is life
<3
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 18 February 2015, 11:59:30
Also I assume that's what you were referring to as well Ray, I am also confused O.o
:thumb:
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Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 18 February 2015, 16:45:23
you always just seem to babble about a load of crap
:triangle:
:trangle:
:squre:
:crcle:
Post by: Fire Brand on Thu, 19 February 2015, 05:32:41
you always just seem to babble about a load of crap
:triangle:
:trangle:
:squre:
:crcle:
I don't understand anything O.o
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 19 February 2015, 05:40:47
you always just seem to babble about a load of crap
:triangle:
:trangle:
:squre:
:crcle:
I don't understand anything O.o
GET OUT OF THE ROMBUS
Post by: Fire Brand on Thu, 19 February 2015, 05:43:53
The evil spawn of the rectangle and triangle :Iyou always just seem to babble about a load of crap
:triangle:
:trangle:
:squre:
:crcle:
I don't understand anything O.o
GET OUT OF THE ROMBUS
But seriously I never understand what most of you all are talking about O.o
Post by: calvinhousecat on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:31:22
not exactly clacks but...
http://www.k3kc.com/shop/
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:42:38
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/Armored24/TurdSandwich.jpg)
Post by: naasfu on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:44:47
Reddit be like:Show Image(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/Armored24/TurdSandwich.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/goQIThG.jpg)
Post by: bueller on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:46:02
Reddit be like:Show Image(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/Armored24/TurdSandwich.jpg)
Yep.
**** I hope K3KC gets cancer.
Post by: sleepy916 on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:49:06
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:55:19
Post by: bueller on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:56:39
Ok that green one is crazy dirty, I guess that shows how little K3KC actually cares. Also its eyes look like ****. :blank:
It's all about the cash to these pricks.
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 25 February 2015, 23:58:29
Ok that green one is crazy dirty, I guess that shows how little K3KC actually cares. Also its eyes look like ****. :blank:
What's funny is I made that comment and got downvoted on reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2x7br1/buying_new_k3kc_caps_out_now/coxk2ck). It looks so bad.
Post by: bueller on Thu, 26 February 2015, 00:00:49
Ok that green one is crazy dirty, I guess that shows how little K3KC actually cares. Also its eyes look like ****. :blank:
What's funny is I made that comment and got downvoted on reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2x7br1/buying_new_k3kc_caps_out_now/coxk2ck). It looks so bad.
And people wonder why I hate that subreddit.
Post by: calvinhousecat on Thu, 26 February 2015, 00:01:41
Ok that green one is crazy dirty, I guess that shows how little K3KC actually cares. Also its eyes look like ****. :blank:
It looks like he colored in the eyes with #2 pencil
(http://www.k3kc.com/file/dust-green-tea-iBot-brobot-keycap.jpg)
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 26 February 2015, 00:08:19
Ok that green one is crazy dirty, I guess that shows how little K3KC actually cares. Also its eyes look like ****. :blank:
What's funny is I made that comment and got downvoted on reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2x7br1/buying_new_k3kc_caps_out_now/coxk2ck). It looks so bad.
Actually total ****, these past few weeks it's been really hard for me to not abandon r/mk.
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 26 February 2015, 00:08:57
Not a silver sharpie?Ok that green one is crazy dirty, I guess that shows how little K3KC actually cares. Also its eyes look like ****. :blank:
It looks like he colored in the eyes with #2 pencilShow Image(http://www.k3kc.com/file/dust-green-tea-iBot-brobot-keycap.jpg)
Post by: bueller on Thu, 26 February 2015, 00:09:51
Ok that green one is crazy dirty, I guess that shows how little K3KC actually cares. Also its eyes look like ****. :blank:
What's funny is I made that comment and got downvoted on reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2x7br1/buying_new_k3kc_caps_out_now/coxk2ck). It looks so bad.
Actually total ****, these past few weeks it's been really hard for me to not abandon r/mk.
It's the biggest ****ing circlejerk. Doesn't matter if what you've said is wrong or not - all it takes is a couple of early downvoters and then the hate train jumps on the bandwagon.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 26 February 2015, 00:12:45
Ok that green one is crazy dirty, I guess that shows how little K3KC actually cares. Also its eyes look like ****. :blank:
What's funny is I made that comment and got downvoted on reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2x7br1/buying_new_k3kc_caps_out_now/coxk2ck). It looks so bad.
Actually total ****, these past few weeks it's been really hard for me to not abandon r/mk.
It's the biggest ****ing circlejerk. Doesn't matter if what you've said is wrong or not - all it takes is a couple of early downvoters and then the hate train jumps on the bandwagon.
The only reason I still visit/ post there is I started on r/mk and the occasional GH poster is what got me interested in joining. Also nothing happens there and when you know you won't be held accountable for what you say everything becomes fair game.
Post by: bueller on Thu, 26 February 2015, 00:14:19
Ok that green one is crazy dirty, I guess that shows how little K3KC actually cares. Also its eyes look like ****. :blank:
What's funny is I made that comment and got downvoted on reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2x7br1/buying_new_k3kc_caps_out_now/coxk2ck). It looks so bad.
Actually total ****, these past few weeks it's been really hard for me to not abandon r/mk.
It's the biggest ****ing circlejerk. Doesn't matter if what you've said is wrong or not - all it takes is a couple of early downvoters and then the hate train jumps on the bandwagon.
The only reason I still visit/ post there is I started on r/mk and the occasional GH poster is what got me interested in joining. Also nothing happens there and when you know you won't be held accountable for what you say everything becomes fair game.
Yeah honestly I started out on r/mk but I had to unsub about a year ago because the anti-geekhack campaign was starting to get really tiresome.
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 26 February 2015, 00:15:00
(http://i.imgur.com/VV6Nqcq.jpg)
At first I spoke out against K3KC. I mean, as an artisan myself, how could I not defend the work of others. Over time, I have slowly become more and more enamored with his work.
Just look at this craftsmanship:
(http://i.imgur.com/dPpCguG.jpg)
From the impurities in the resin to the slick shininess of the cap to uneven and distorted eyes to the pitting all over the cap, how could you not come to love that clearly handmade artisinal product. Who cares about the fact that it's a counterfeit, he obviously inserts a homeyness and clearly handmade element that is so lacking from Bro's products. You look at that and you know some poor Vietnamese child is slaving away to make these, doing his best to create that artisan feel that is only created by introducing imperfections.
Just look at this:
(http://i.imgur.com/YG0SELQ.jpg)
How can you not love those wavy lines, that pitting and imperfections in the headphones? It lets you know it's made by a man, not a machine, and that man is more concerned about getting them to everyone at prices nearly the same as the creator's instead of painstaking and meticulous perfection. He wants everyone to have his clearly artisinal product.
I take back every bad thing about K3KC. Now I'm off to reddit where I'll let Ripster fill me, and I mean fill all of me any way he wants, while I sing his praise, show off my Poker and K70, and buy all the K3KCs I can afford. See you Geekwhack, I'm now worshiping new gods and forsaking Clack and Bro (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2tg0q8/typical_day_at_geekwhack/).
My enlightened face now gazes upon K3KC's glory and I lust after the deliciousness he places before me.
(http://i.imgur.com/vxuvZG4.jpg)
Post by: bueller on Thu, 26 February 2015, 00:16:15
[size=18]K3KC: or how I came to love the counterfeit[/size]Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/VV6Nqcq.jpg)
At first I spoke out against K3KC. I mean, as an artisan myself, how could I not defend the work of others. Over time, I have slowly become more and more enamored with his work.
Just look at this craftsmanship:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dPpCguG.jpg)
From the impurities in the resin to the slick shininess of the cap to uneven and distorted eyes to the pitting all over the cap, how could you not come to love that clearly handmade artisinal product. Who cares about the fact that it's a counterfeit, he obviously inserts a homeyness and clearly handmade element that is so lacking from Bro's products. You look at that and you know some poor Vietnamese child is slaving away to make these, doing his best to create that artisan feel that is only created by introducing imperfections.
Just look at this:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YG0SELQ.jpg)
How can you not love those wavy lines, that pitting and imperfections in the headphones? It lets you know it's made by a man, not a machine, and that man is more concerned about getting them to everyone at prices nearly the same as the creator's instead of painstaking and meticulous perfection. He wants everyone to have his clearly artisinal product.
I take back every bad thing about K3KC. Now I'm off to reddit where I'll let Ripster fill me, and I mean fill all of me any way he wants, while I sing his praise, show off my Poker and K70, and buy all the K3KCs I can afford. See you Geekwhack, I'm now worshiping new gods and forsaking Clack and Bro (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2tg0q8/typical_day_at_geekwhack/).
My enlightened face now gazes upon K3KC's glory and I lust after the deliciousness he places before me.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vxuvZG4.jpg)
Bravo sir. That was entertaining as ****.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 26 February 2015, 00:21:17
K3KC: or how I came to love the counterfeitShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/VV6Nqcq.jpg)
At first I spoke out against K3KC. I mean, as an artisan myself, how could I not defend the work of others. Over time, I have slowly become more and more enamored with his work.
Just look at this craftsmanship:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dPpCguG.jpg)
From the impurities in the resin to the slick shininess of the cap to uneven and distorted eyes to the pitting all over the cap, how could you not come to love that clearly handmade artisinal product. Who cares about the fact that it's a counterfeit, he obviously inserts a homeyness and clearly handmade element that is so lacking from Bro's products. You look at that and you know some poor Vietnamese child is slaving away to make these, doing his best to create that artisan feel that is only created by introducing imperfections.
Just look at this:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/YG0SELQ.jpg)
How can you not love those wavy lines, that pitting and imperfections in the headphones? It lets you know it's made by a man, not a machine, and that man is more concerned about getting them to everyone at prices nearly the same as the creator's instead of painstaking and meticulous perfection. He wants everyone to have his clearly artisinal product.
I take back every bad thing about K3KC. Now I'm off to reddit where I'll let Ripster fill me, and I mean fill all of me any way he wants, while I sing his praise, show off my Poker and K70, and buy all the K3KCs I can afford. See you Geekwhack, I'm now worshiping new gods and forsaking Clack and Bro (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2tg0q8/typical_day_at_geekwhack/).
My enlightened face now gazes upon K3KC's glory and I lust after the deliciousness he places before me.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vxuvZG4.jpg)
You win. GG no re.
Yeah honestly I started out on r/mk but I had to unsub about a year ago because the anti-geekhack campaign was starting to get really tiresome.
I can confirm it is still tiresome, ripster appears to be running out of ideas though. He seems to be repeating himself quite a bit now.
Post by: bueller on Thu, 26 February 2015, 00:22:42
I can confirm it is still tiresome, ripster appears to be running out of ideas though. He seems to be repeating himself quite a bit now.
It was bound to happen eventually, not like any of his "keyboard science" is ground breaking stuff.
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 26 February 2015, 00:26:21
A lot of his keyboard science isn't even accurate imo :eek:
I can confirm it is still tiresome, ripster appears to be running out of ideas though. He seems to be repeating himself quite a bit now.
It was bound to happen eventually, not like any of his "keyboard science" is ground breaking stuff.
Post by: bueller on Thu, 26 February 2015, 00:27:44
A lot of his keyboard science isn't even accurate imo :eek:
I can confirm it is still tiresome, ripster appears to be running out of ideas though. He seems to be repeating himself quite a bit now.
It was bound to happen eventually, not like any of his "keyboard science" is ground breaking stuff.
You mean the actuation point of a Cherry brown isn't 8 nickels? lol
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 26 February 2015, 00:31:27
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 26 February 2015, 00:32:34
A lot of his keyboard science isn't even accurate imo :eek:
I can confirm it is still tiresome, ripster appears to be running out of ideas though. He seems to be repeating himself quite a bit now.
It was bound to happen eventually, not like any of his "keyboard science" is ground breaking stuff.
You mean the actuation point of a Cherry brown isn't 8 nickels? lol
Also unless men started wearing high heels (no judgement if you do, you do you I guess), I don't think thats the shoe that MX Blue users wear.
Post by: Belfong on Thu, 26 February 2015, 01:14:31
Post by: bazh on Thu, 26 February 2015, 01:26:51
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 26 February 2015, 01:29:49
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 26 February 2015, 02:58:09
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 26 February 2015, 03:03:55
Post by: KatzenKinder on Thu, 26 February 2015, 04:09:24
The only benefit is that his post didn't hit the front page. The problem is when Ripster posts a link, it will..
Knowing him he'll probably sticky the damn thing.
Post by: Nai_Calus on Thu, 26 February 2015, 04:33:49
I'm sitting here, eagerly awaiting my invoice for the latest Bro sale, super-excited to see which cap I got, because Bro makes awesome-as-hell caps that look sweet as hell.
Meanwhile this guy churns out copies that look janky as hell and I wouldn't take one if you gave it to me. Like, taking it could be a condition of you giving me a GON NerD108 with ergoclears and blue side/switch LEDs and a skyblue case and I'd still refuse the thing.
Post by: Fire Brand on Thu, 26 February 2015, 05:24:31
Edit: Just read the reds it posts and comments everyone is being supportive and saying not to buy from k3 good work reddit I actually respect you for that
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 26 February 2015, 08:21:58
Post by: demik on Thu, 26 February 2015, 13:07:20
where is demik?! I thought he's going Viet Nam to kick K3KC's ass?!
Reporting live from vietnam.
Too hot to fight. Slowly dying.
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 26 February 2015, 13:13:16
where is demik?! I thought he's going Viet Nam to kick K3KC's ass?!
Reporting live from vietnam.
Too hot to fight. Slowly dying.
Adrian Cronauer: "Hey, uh, hi. Can you help me? What's your name?"
Roosevelt E. Roosevelt: "My name's Roosevelt E. Roosevelt."
AC: "Roosevelt, what town are you stationed in?"
RER: "I'm stationed in Poontang."
AC: "Well, thank you, Roosevelt. What's the weather like out there?"
RER: "It's hot. Damn hot! Real hot! Hottest things is my shorts. I could cook things in it. A little crotch pot cooking."
AC: "Well, can you tell me what it feels like."
RER: "Fool, it's hot! I told you again! Were you born on the sun? It's damn hot! I saw - It's so damn hot, I saw little guys, their orange robes burst into flames. It's that hot! Do you know what I'm talking about."
AC: "What do you think it's going to be like tonight?"
RER: "It's gonna be hot and wet! That's nice if you're with a lady, but it ain't no good if you're in the jungle."
AC: "Thank you, Roosevelt."
Post by: PunksDead on Thu, 26 February 2015, 13:13:19
Post by: exitfire401 on Thu, 26 February 2015, 13:16:54
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 26 February 2015, 13:24:16
LOL k3 painted the headphones on...
Is that why the lines looks real janky?
Post by: demik on Thu, 26 February 2015, 13:28:36
Post by: HPE1000 on Thu, 26 February 2015, 13:52:25
Post by: welsinki on Thu, 26 February 2015, 14:09:45
Post by: demik on Thu, 26 February 2015, 19:01:58
What I don't understand is why someone with that amount of drive and dedication doesn't produce his own designs. If I was in his position, and unable to come up with original designs, I would have gone the pimpmykeyboard.com route and asked people to submit their own designs for mass production.
laziness
Post by: tbc on Thu, 26 February 2015, 19:17:57
What I don't understand is why someone with that amount of drive and dedication doesn't produce his own designs. If I was in his position, and unable to come up with original designs, I would have gone the pimpmykeyboard.com route and asked people to submit their own designs for mass production.
laziness
i honestly rather buy from paci.
this guy is getting 'outqualitied' by a teenager
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 26 February 2015, 19:46:27
At least it looks like there is less support for fake Bros, I guess reddit may be moving in the right direction. Maybe...
Probably not.
Post by: exitfire401 on Thu, 26 February 2015, 20:00:35
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2x8gli/ibots_now_in_multiple_colors_at_k3kccom/
At least it looks like there is less support for fake Bros, I guess reddit may be moving in the right direction. Maybe...
Probably not.
Pipe dream.
Post by: bueller on Thu, 26 February 2015, 20:04:15
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2x8gli/ibots_now_in_multiple_colors_at_k3kccom/
At least it looks like there is less support for fake Bros, I guess reddit may be moving in the right direction. Maybe...
Probably not.
I flat out don't get that place. I've posted there so many times trying to get people to understand that what this ****er is doing is wrong and yet always get downvoted, now they've totally flipped the script.
Post by: Cottonsox on Thu, 26 February 2015, 20:06:16
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 26 February 2015, 20:07:46
I flat out don't get that place. I've posted there so many times trying to get people to understand that what this ****er is doing is wrong and yet always get downvoted, now they've totally flipped the script.
I really don't get the supply and demand logic either, in the real world when this happens people die. Didn't GM have some air bag issue because of counterfeit airbags?
Also they think Bro and CC are super rich and are only making caps for money, they don't realize that they are people with jobs making caps as a hobby for a community they love.
Post by: bueller on Thu, 26 February 2015, 20:09:13
I flat out don't get that place. I've posted there so many times trying to get people to understand that what this ****er is doing is wrong and yet always get downvoted, now they've totally flipped the script.
I really don't get the supply and demand logic either, in the real world when this happens people die. Didn't GM have some air bag issue because of counterfeit airbags?
Also they think Bro and CC are super rich and are only making caps for money, they don't realize that they are people with jobs making caps as a hobby for a community they love.
Yeah it really pissed me off reading that somehow they think this is bad while still being completely fine with this ****head counterfeiting Clacks.
Post by: exitfire401 on Thu, 26 February 2015, 20:10:10
I flat out don't get that place. I've posted there so many times trying to get people to understand that what this ****er is doing is wrong and yet always get downvoted, now they've totally flipped the script.
I really don't get the supply and demand logic either, in the real world when this happens people die. Didn't GM have some air bag issue because of counterfeit airbags?
Also they think Bro and CC are super rich and are only making caps for money, they don't realize that they are people with jobs making caps as a hobby for a community they love.
They also mistake the secondhand market for direct sales...they act as though CC is pricing caps at $200 a pop (Freedom eagle and some other exceptions excluded because they're awesome).
Post by: bueller on Thu, 26 February 2015, 20:14:02
I flat out don't get that place. I've posted there so many times trying to get people to understand that what this ****er is doing is wrong and yet always get downvoted, now they've totally flipped the script.
I really don't get the supply and demand logic either, in the real world when this happens people die. Didn't GM have some air bag issue because of counterfeit airbags?
Also they think Bro and CC are super rich and are only making caps for money, they don't realize that they are people with jobs making caps as a hobby for a community they love.
They also mistake the secondhand market for direct sales...they act as though CC is pricing caps at $200 a pop (Freedom eagle and some other exceptions excluded because they're awesome).
Some idiot tried to justify by saying "I don't even think Clack makes caps any more". Zero ****ing clue.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 26 February 2015, 20:17:25
I flat out don't get that place. I've posted there so many times trying to get people to understand that what this ****er is doing is wrong and yet always get downvoted, now they've totally flipped the script.
I really don't get the supply and demand logic either, in the real world when this happens people die. Didn't GM have some air bag issue because of counterfeit airbags?
Also they think Bro and CC are super rich and are only making caps for money, they don't realize that they are people with jobs making caps as a hobby for a community they love.
They also mistake the secondhand market for direct sales...they act as though CC is pricing caps at $200 a pop (Freedom eagle and some other exceptions excluded because they're awesome).
Some idiot tried to justify by saying "I don't even think Clack makes caps any more". Zero ****ing clue.
Also artisans really aren't that hard to come by if you're part of the community and talk to people. Caps change hands all the time and if everyone knows you're a cool person who really likes the cap offers will come your way. Artisans are only crazy hard to get if you lurk or are an ass.
Post by: slip84 on Thu, 26 February 2015, 20:19:45
I flat out don't get that place. I've posted there so many times trying to get people to understand that what this ****er is doing is wrong and yet always get downvoted, now they've totally flipped the script.
I really don't get the supply and demand logic either, in the real world when this happens people die. Didn't GM have some air bag issue because of counterfeit airbags?
Also they think Bro and CC are super rich and are only making caps for money, they don't realize that they are people with jobs making caps as a hobby for a community they love.
They also mistake the secondhand market for direct sales...they act as though CC is pricing caps at $200 a pop (Freedom eagle and some other exceptions excluded because they're awesome).
Some idiot tried to justify by saying "I don't even think Clack makes caps any more". Zero ****ing clue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMHtwyrt2X0#t=265 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMHtwyrt2X0#t=265)
Post by: exitfire401 on Thu, 26 February 2015, 20:19:54
I flat out don't get that place. I've posted there so many times trying to get people to understand that what this ****er is doing is wrong and yet always get downvoted, now they've totally flipped the script.
I really don't get the supply and demand logic either, in the real world when this happens people die. Didn't GM have some air bag issue because of counterfeit airbags?
Also they think Bro and CC are super rich and are only making caps for money, they don't realize that they are people with jobs making caps as a hobby for a community they love.
They also mistake the secondhand market for direct sales...they act as though CC is pricing caps at $200 a pop (Freedom eagle and some other exceptions excluded because they're awesome).
Some idiot tried to justify by saying "I don't even think Clack makes caps any more". Zero ****ing clue.
Also artisans really aren't that hard to come by if you're part of the community and talk to people. Caps change hands all the time and if everyone knows you're a cool person who really likes the cap offers will come your way. Artisans are only crazy hard to get if you lurk or are an ass.
Pretty much this.
Post by: demik on Thu, 26 February 2015, 20:40:40
I flat out don't get that place. I've posted there so many times trying to get people to understand that what this ****er is doing is wrong and yet always get downvoted, now they've totally flipped the script.
I really don't get the supply and demand logic either, in the real world when this happens people die. Didn't GM have some air bag issue because of counterfeit airbags?
Also they think Bro and CC are super rich and are only making caps for money, they don't realize that they are people with jobs making caps as a hobby for a community they love.
They also mistake the secondhand market for direct sales...they act as though CC is pricing caps at $200 a pop (Freedom eagle and some other exceptions excluded because they're awesome).
Some idiot tried to justify by saying "I don't even think Clack makes caps any more". Zero ****ing clue.
Also artisans really aren't that hard to come by if you're part of the community and talk to people. Caps change hands all the time and if everyone knows you're a cool person who really likes the cap offers will come your way. Artisans are only crazy hard to get if you lurk or are an ass.
that's bull****. there are certain CCs only a tight inner circle has access to. lets not kid ourselves.
either you throw money at it (3love) or you're "chosen".
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 26 February 2015, 20:45:16
The key phrase being certain CCs, I was talking artisans in general.I flat out don't get that place. I've posted there so many times trying to get people to understand that what this ****er is doing is wrong and yet always get downvoted, now they've totally flipped the script.
I really don't get the supply and demand logic either, in the real world when this happens people die. Didn't GM have some air bag issue because of counterfeit airbags?
Also they think Bro and CC are super rich and are only making caps for money, they don't realize that they are people with jobs making caps as a hobby for a community they love.
They also mistake the secondhand market for direct sales...they act as though CC is pricing caps at $200 a pop (Freedom eagle and some other exceptions excluded because they're awesome).
Some idiot tried to justify by saying "I don't even think Clack makes caps any more". Zero ****ing clue.
Also artisans really aren't that hard to come by if you're part of the community and talk to people. Caps change hands all the time and if everyone knows you're a cool person who really likes the cap offers will come your way. Artisans are only crazy hard to get if you lurk or are an ass.
that's bull****. there are certain CCs only a tight inner circle has access to. lets not kid ourselves.
either you throw money at it (3love) or you're "chosen".
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 26 February 2015, 20:46:58
that's bull****. there are certain CCs only a tight inner circle has access to. lets not kid ourselves.
either you throw money at it (3love) or you're "chosen".
I heard that it's just called "networking" and if you just talk to people any Clack can be had. Or that's what I'm always told.
That said, it's not too hard to get one, probably not the specific one you want and probably not a bi- or tri-color but still a Clack or a Bro, if you're nice to people and are helpful to the community. I know I've had generous offers for caps and have given some away or sold some cheaply to people who were just good and productive members of the community. Of course, certain people literally get them thrown at them because they're put on a pedestal, people think they'll get some special treatment on something, or the person throws ungodly gobs of money at them.
Post by: demik on Thu, 26 February 2015, 20:47:59
The key phrase being certain CCs, I was talking artisans in general.I flat out don't get that place. I've posted there so many times trying to get people to understand that what this ****er is doing is wrong and yet always get downvoted, now they've totally flipped the script.
I really don't get the supply and demand logic either, in the real world when this happens people die. Didn't GM have some air bag issue because of counterfeit airbags?
Also they think Bro and CC are super rich and are only making caps for money, they don't realize that they are people with jobs making caps as a hobby for a community they love.
They also mistake the secondhand market for direct sales...they act as though CC is pricing caps at $200 a pop (Freedom eagle and some other exceptions excluded because they're awesome).
Some idiot tried to justify by saying "I don't even think Clack makes caps any more". Zero ****ing clue.
Also artisans really aren't that hard to come by if you're part of the community and talk to people. Caps change hands all the time and if everyone knows you're a cool person who really likes the cap offers will come your way. Artisans are only crazy hard to get if you lurk or are an ass.
that's bull****. there are certain CCs only a tight inner circle has access to. lets not kid ourselves.
either you throw money at it (3love) or you're "chosen".
it's still a part of it.
it doesn't justify what this guy is doing, but lets not act like exclusivity isn't a thing with keycaps. like just being here and showing interest you magically get PMd.
problem is you people (not you in particular) care way too ****ing much about this (artisan caps in general) and thus have created this whole monster. but i wont even get into that since it'll fall on deaf ears, like always.
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 26 February 2015, 21:00:43
Post by: demik on Thu, 26 February 2015, 21:04:36
I disagree demik. When I was still quite new without connections and I had just received my duck keyboards, I was offered two clacks as part of a trade and was very thankful for it. It really burns down to just being a part of the community and opportunity as well as being active. I was one of the lucky people who won a clack on the last day of the event wherein all those other people on reddit that are complaining about "Exclusivity" could just as easily have won if they weren't busy praising K3KC for his attempt at making imitations.
uh, not the same thing.
clacks were used as currency.
and i did not say CC/BB/whomever else was exclusive. i was merely pointing out that there IS some exclusivity. and that's fine, whomever makes the caps can do whatever the hell they want with them. i was just correcting the joey said.
Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 26 February 2015, 21:38:40
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/c150f50c7e9b76b30f104babddec9ec4/tumblr_na628xhCYu1rmabgzo6_400.gif)where is demik?! I thought he's going Viet Nam to kick K3KC's ass?!
Reporting live from vietnam.
Too hot to fight. Slowly dying.
On here, I have paid for keys that cost 7 & 8 dollars, that I have seen on mechmarket for 45 dollars each, which is something weird. Sure, there are people who will try to sell for a profit, but for my deckerson cap, I paid only 7 or 8 dollars for it, and I saw one on mechmarket a day or two ago for more than 30 or 40 dollars. You don't have to try that hard to find good deals on caps, you just have to be lucky and find a good deal.I have never paid more than a dollar or two for an artisan.
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 26 February 2015, 21:53:05
Post by: Belfong on Thu, 26 February 2015, 21:57:05
I was one of the lucky people who won a clack on the last day of the event wherein all those other people on reddit that are complaining about "Exclusivity" could just as easily have won if they weren't busy praising K3KC for his attempt at making imitations.This! There were about 60 days of Clackvent. 60 days! Some of the days have multiple draw. JD-Day and the last day is where almost anyone who joined is a winner. All it takes are hard work, dedication and technology (read Tapatalk). And whoever still claimed that it is exclusive, inner circle and whatnot should really be smacked for not trying in Clackvent!
Post by: sethk_ on Thu, 26 February 2015, 21:57:56
pwnnarwhal I shat my pants when I found otu I was one of the last string of winners as that would be the first one I won. :eek:For clacks? Yeah, I was entering since like the first day, but for some reason it isn't showing the first couple, but when I didn't win anything, until that very last raffle, I was getting worried. I wanted to get my first clack through a raffle, so earlier that day I denied trading one of my caps for a clack, granted, it wasn't a clack I liked anyways, but I am now debating which switch type to get it on.
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 26 February 2015, 22:14:13
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 27 February 2015, 03:08:57
Luckily for the moment however his rip offs are so blatant and so awful that most (I hope) won't bother.
I also don't buy the fact that he's too lazy to come up with his own work. I actually think he's totally incapable which is why he lashed out and attacked Clack and Bro. He's totally incapable of coming up with his own good designs so he has to rip off the best for attention, befriending the most heartbroken nerd on the Internet in the process.
Post by: Sed8op8 on Sat, 28 February 2015, 08:50:04
I was so sad that I had not entered for clackvent...on well I was not even a member of GH yet....congrats synjin I had seen your sig about the clack for a couple days you must be freaking stoked!I was one of the lucky people who won a clack on the last day of the event wherein all those other people on reddit that are complaining about "Exclusivity" could just as easily have won if they weren't busy praising K3KC for his attempt at making imitations.This! There were about 60 days of Clackvent. 60 days! Some of the days have multiple draw. JD-Day and the last day is where almost anyone who joined is a winner. All it takes are hard work, dedication and technology (read Tapatalk). And whoever still claimed that it is exclusive, inner circle and whatnot should really be smacked for not trying in Clackvent!
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 28 February 2015, 08:51:20
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 28 February 2015, 08:52:18
Post by: Nai_Calus on Sat, 28 February 2015, 10:15:32
Next time there's a time requirement, I'll meet it, so it's not the end of the world, probably. :P
Nothing has struck me as unfair or mean or elitist about the way artisans sell their keycaps.
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 28 February 2015, 10:30:08
Yeah, you don't see me being butthurt because I joined GH too late to be able to try for a Clack in the last event. Did it suck? Well, yeah. Did I whine and cry about how unfair it was and omg I should get to enter despite not meeting the requirements? Hell no. He can set whatever requirements he wants, if I didn't meet them that's my problem.I did not meet his requirements during the last time he sold clacks before this one so I was once in your shoe. My point was to those who make silly excuses for supporting someone who rips off other artists.
Next time there's a time requirement, I'll meet it, so it's not the end of the world, probably. :P
Nothing has struck me as unfair or mean or elitist about the way artisans sell their keycaps.
Post by: Sed8op8 on Sat, 28 February 2015, 10:38:46
he ended up hooking up everyone at the end didn't he... That's so awesome good for him and everyone that entered.Yeah, you don't see me being butthurt because I joined GH too late to be able to try for a Clack in the last event. Did it suck? Well, yeah. Did I whine and cry about how unfair it was and omg I should get to enter despite not meeting the requirements? Hell no. He can set whatever requirements he wants, if I didn't meet them that's my problem.I did not meet his requirements during the last time he sold clacks before this one so I was once in your shoe. My point was to those who make silly excuses for supporting someone who rips off other artists.
Next time there's a time requirement, I'll meet it, so it's not the end of the world, probably. :P
Nothing has struck me as unfair or mean or elitist about the way artisans sell their keycaps.
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 28 February 2015, 10:39:32
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 03 March 2015, 10:50:26
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xshc5/making_an_artisan_key_wax_master/ WOW HE CARVES SO WELL!!!!!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 03 March 2015, 10:55:20
Sorry for the double post.
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xshc5/making_an_artisan_key_wax_master/ WOW HE CARVES SO WELL!!!!!
Guys that cap is made with love...see the heart!
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 03 March 2015, 10:56:18
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 03 March 2015, 10:56:51
Lolz my nuts just fell to the ground from Loling.
Hey, there's a cap for that to.
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 03 March 2015, 11:03:43
Post by: Lu_e on Tue, 03 March 2015, 12:11:33
Post by: Nai_Calus on Tue, 03 March 2015, 13:14:36
I did not meet his requirements during the last time he sold clacks before this one so I was once in your shoe. My point was to those who make silly excuses for supporting someone who rips off other artists.
Oh, I know who it's directed at, mine is directed at the same people. ;)
Re: Reddit thread:
OK. Wow. That is disgusting. Both the pictures of 'sculpting' the ripoff bros and Ripster posting them. I'm getting really close to being done with /r/mk. This might actually do it. Disgusting.
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 03 March 2015, 13:20:59
I did not meet his requirements during the last time he sold clacks before this one so I was once in your shoe. My point was to those who make silly excuses for supporting someone who rips off other artists.
Oh, I know who it's directed at, mine is directed at the same people. ;)
Re: Reddit thread:
OK. Wow. That is disgusting. Both the pictures of 'sculpting' the ripoff bros and Ripster posting them. I'm getting really close to being done with /r/mk. This might actually do it. Disgusting.
I've been done for a while. It's just fun to correct Rip's inaccuracies at this point
Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 03 March 2015, 13:25:13
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 03 March 2015, 13:26:46
if you already spend a lot of time reading this forum, there's zero reasons to visit that sub ever. the majority of worthwhile content there originates from here, no point suffering through hundreds of ripster reposts, k3 adverts, potato pics of bland stock boards (bonus points for shoes) and lazy memes to find some decent original content
but muh le dank redditor memes?!? *tip*
Post by: Mandolin on Tue, 03 March 2015, 13:37:45
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xshc5/making_an_artisan_key_wax_master/
(http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xshc5/making_an_artisan_key_wax_master/)
Original source with more pics is this:
http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/ibot.593.html (http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/ibot.593.html)
Final note reads:
Thanks everyone, especially Brocap.(Copyright by bunnylake)
It's just incendiary, isn't it?
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 03 March 2015, 13:39:24
Pics are from here:
http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/ibot.593.html (http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/ibot.593.html)
Final note reads:
Thanks everyone, especially Brocap.(Copyright by bunnylake)
It's just incendiary, isn't it?
They aim to infuriate. Also doesn't help that reddit admins refuse to take action
Post by: baldgye on Tue, 03 March 2015, 13:42:55
Regarding the latest drama post on reddit from k3c:
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xshc5/making_an_artisan_key_wax_master/
(http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xshc5/making_an_artisan_key_wax_master/)
Original source with more pics is this:
http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/ibot.593.html (http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/ibot.593.html)
Final note reads:
Thanks everyone, especially Brocap.(Copyright by bunnylake)
It's just incendiary, isn't it?
'Weapons Grade Autism' I believe is the most accurate description of his post.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 03 March 2015, 13:46:11
Regarding the latest drama post on reddit from k3c:
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xshc5/making_an_artisan_key_wax_master/
(http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xshc5/making_an_artisan_key_wax_master/)
Original source with more pics is this:
http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/ibot.593.html (http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/ibot.593.html)
Final note reads:
Thanks everyone, especially Brocap.(Copyright by bunnylake)
It's just incendiary, isn't it?
'Weapons Grade Autism' I believe is the most accurate description of his post.
QFT
At this point r/mk is a mostly a flock of retards. I'm officially done.
Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 03 March 2015, 13:49:21
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 03 March 2015, 13:50:05
Pics are from here:
http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/ibot.593.html (http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/ibot.593.html)
Final note reads:
Thanks everyone, especially Brocap.(Copyright by bunnylake)
It's just incendiary, isn't it?
They aim to infuriate. Also doesn't help that reddit admins refuse to take action
I wonder if a DMCA takedown notice would help.
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 03 March 2015, 13:50:34
if there's one good thing about /r/mk, it's the people who come here afterwards tend to become active members. thx ripster!
I resemble that!
Post by: Mandolin on Tue, 03 March 2015, 13:58:43
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:01:15
Pics are from here:
http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/ibot.593.html (http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/ibot.593.html)
Final note reads:
Thanks everyone, especially Brocap.(Copyright by bunnylake)
It's just incendiary, isn't it?
They aim to infuriate. Also doesn't help that reddit admins refuse to take action
I wonder if a DMCA takedown notice would help.
Bro/CC would have to do that
Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:02:08
I wonder if a DMCA takedown notice would help.would it though? k3's site is probably already known by anyone who would consider getting one, i doubt preventing the link from being posted further will do any good. streisand effect etc. if anything it would give ripster new 'material' for his geekwhack propaganda
I resemble that!yeah the number of regular posters who came from /r/mk is surprisingly high, or so i noticed
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:09:55
I resemble that!yeah the number of regular posters who came from /r/mk is surprisingly high, or so i noticed
I did.
Post by: strict on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:22:53
Post by: 3Love on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:32:28
I flat out don't get that place. I've posted there so many times trying to get people to understand that what this ****er is doing is wrong and yet always get downvoted, now they've totally flipped the script.
I really don't get the supply and demand logic either, in the real world when this happens people die. Didn't GM have some air bag issue because of counterfeit airbags?
Also they think Bro and CC are super rich and are only making caps for money, they don't realize that they are people with jobs making caps as a hobby for a community they love.
They also mistake the secondhand market for direct sales...they act as though CC is pricing caps at $200 a pop (Freedom eagle and some other exceptions excluded because they're awesome).
Some idiot tried to justify by saying "I don't even think Clack makes caps any more". Zero ****ing clue.
Also artisans really aren't that hard to come by if you're part of the community and talk to people. Caps change hands all the time and if everyone knows you're a cool person who really likes the cap offers will come your way. Artisans are only crazy hard to get if you lurk or are an ass.
that's bull****. there are certain CCs only a tight inner circle has access to. lets not kid ourselves.
either you throw money at it (3love) or you're "chosen".
why you mention me?
Post by: tbc on Tue, 03 March 2015, 14:40:24
Pics are from here:
http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/ibot.593.html (http://forum.vietnammechkey.com/threads/ibot.593.html)
Final note reads:
Thanks everyone, especially Brocap.(Copyright by bunnylake)
It's just incendiary, isn't it?
They aim to infuriate. Also doesn't help that reddit admins refuse to take action
well....they specifically encourage it.
traffic = money.
makes perfect sense. reddit considers itself to be a news source just like fox news. why wouldn't they use the same tactics?
Post by: billnye on Tue, 03 March 2015, 18:48:04
(http://puu.sh/glnU1/c89fd4b836.png)
(http://puu.sh/glnYJ/fe0d96b340.png)
(http://puu.sh/glo0a/912b5c187a.png)
wtf where buy button go....... fuuuu bro caps
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 03 March 2015, 18:54:08
I wonder if a DMCA takedown notice would help.would it though? k3's site is probably already known by anyone who would consider getting one, i doubt preventing the link from being posted further will do any good. streisand effect etc. if anything it would give ripster new 'material' for his geekwhack propaganda
I was referencing rippy roo on reddit.
Post by: strict on Tue, 03 March 2015, 18:55:07
wtf I kant buy any cool caps : ^ (
wtf where buy button go....... fuuuu bro caps
I can see from your other tabs that you're not the real bill nye :eek:
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 03 March 2015, 18:57:42
I wonder if a DMCA takedown notice would help.would it though? k3's site is probably already known by anyone who would consider getting one, i doubt preventing the link from being posted further will do any good. streisand effect etc. if anything it would give ripster new 'material' for his geekwhack propaganda
I was referencing rippy roo on reddit.
reddit admins are tetchy as **** about DMCA
they'd probably nuke r/mk entirely
if you can actually get a DMCA (and knowing bro, he'll probably get a DMCA) then they'll at least nuke his reddit accounts, maybe IP ban retspiR if we're lucky
they'd probably throw the next mod down in charge, but afaik retspiR is the only active mod of that reddit
meaning that they'd throw it to whoever sent the DMCA maybe?
doesn't even matter if there's no DMCA
no matter how i feel/what i've said about bro i'm sure he'll at least try to do something here, because that's the kind of dude he is
Post by: billnye on Tue, 03 March 2015, 18:59:41
you caught me :/ i am skamwtf I kant buy any cool caps : ^ (
wtf where buy button go....... fuuuu bro caps
I can see from your other tabs that you're not the real bill nye :eek:
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 03 March 2015, 19:07:03
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/4b/4be889bb1c20af2e99ef1a088fcbd28de0f6518262125a7bc6d541ecff6f66c8.jpg)
Post by: baldgye on Tue, 03 March 2015, 19:10:37
I don't understand what's keeping him from coming up with his own unique design. He's obviously talented, yet he's content wasting his time and energy ripping off other people at no real benefit to himself.Show Image(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/4b/4be889bb1c20af2e99ef1a088fcbd28de0f6518262125a7bc6d541ecff6f66c8.jpg)
Why do people say he is talented? Knowing how and having the tools doesn't make you talented, it just makes you able. If he had any talent he would have put it to use, instead he lashed out at Bro and CC (for no reason) and then went stole there work, badly.
Post by: Mandolin on Tue, 03 March 2015, 19:14:14
I don't understand what's keeping him from coming up with his own unique design. He's obviously talented, yet he's content wasting his time and energy ripping off other people at no real benefit to himself.Show Image(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/4b/4be889bb1c20af2e99ef1a088fcbd28de0f6518262125a7bc6d541ecff6f66c8.jpg)
I don't think it comes off only about money, given the messages he posts in his forum and everything else. He's always gonna be second in terms of design, as he waits until somebody makes his own to copy it.
He or she could take pride in being the best copycat maker around, and cheap option of other's designs. As a personal stance, that's not something I'd take pride on, but again, he's sketchy and doesn't even reveal his true self.
I don't see him a bit talented. That's a skill. If you send a wax pattern to china of anything, you could have it casted in any form you want.
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 03 March 2015, 19:21:23
He bought an actual BB, and then casted it, and then poured the wax into it, and is pretending he sculpted that.I don't understand what's keeping him from coming up with his own unique design. He's obviously talented, yet he's content wasting his time and energy ripping off other people at no real benefit to himself.Show Image(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/4b/4be889bb1c20af2e99ef1a088fcbd28de0f6518262125a7bc6d541ecff6f66c8.jpg)
I don't think it comes off only about money, given the messages he posts in his forum and everything else. He's always gonna be second in terms of design, as he waits until somebody makes his to copy it.
He or she could take pride in being the best copycat maker around, and cheap option of other's designs. As a personal stance, that's not something I'd take pride on, but again, he's sketchy and doesn't even reveal his true self.
I don't see him a bit talented. That's a skill. If you send a wax pattern to china of anything, you could have it casted in any form you want.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 03 March 2015, 20:03:18
What? :#scratchesheadI wonder if a DMCA takedown notice would help.would it though? k3's site is probably already known by anyone who would consider getting one, i doubt preventing the link from being posted further will do any good. streisand effect etc. if anything it would give ripster new 'material' for his geekwhack propaganda
I was referencing rippy roo on reddit.
reddit admins are tetchy as **** about DMCA
they'd probably nuke r/mk entirely
if you can actually get a DMCA (and knowing bro, he'll probably get a DMCA) then they'll at least nuke his reddit accounts, maybe IP ban retspiR if we're lucky
they'd probably throw the next mod down in charge, but afaik retspiR is the only active mod of that reddit
meaning that they'd throw it to whoever sent the DMCA maybe?
doesn't even matter if there's no DMCA
no matter how i feel/what i've said about bro i'm sure he'll at least try to do something here, because that's the kind of dude he is
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 03 March 2015, 20:04:04
I don't understand what's keeping him from coming up with his own unique design. He's obviously talented, yet he's content wasting his time and energy ripping off other people at no real benefit to himself.Show Image(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/4b/4be889bb1c20af2e99ef1a088fcbd28de0f6518262125a7bc6d541ecff6f66c8.jpg)
Why do people say he is talented? Knowing how and having the tools doesn't make you talented, it just makes you able. If he had any talent he would have put it to use, instead he lashed out at Bro and CC (for no reason) and then went stole there work, badly.
Production capabilities are still talent.
He has no artistic talent, however, and that's why he doesn't make his own designs. I'm not sure why people keep asking this question. Have we all forgotten about the "DOTA" (monster vagina) cap? The dude couldn't sculpt to save his life. Neither could I, but then I'm also not ripping off other people's designs. ;)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 03 March 2015, 20:05:27
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 03 March 2015, 20:08:51
I'm pretty sure someone proved that the nasty vagina cap was a rip off too.
:-X Rip off of what??
Post by: demik on Tue, 03 March 2015, 20:13:09
Post by: billnye on Tue, 03 March 2015, 20:13:35
ur mumI'm pretty sure someone proved that the nasty vagina cap was a rip off too.
:-X Rip off of what??
Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 03 March 2015, 20:17:23
Quote from: k3
Honestly, I don’t want to make brobot’s clone, they are really ugly cheap ****. But Brocap always intervene in my business so I make a chance for him to show his genius. The 10 bucks brobot groupbuy will be celebrated soon, I hope you guys enjoys. Best regards!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 03 March 2015, 20:34:32
btw what the **** are those prices?Quote from: k3Honestly, I don’t want to make brobot’s clone, they are really ugly cheap ****. But Brocap always intervene in my business so I make a chance for him to show his genius. The 10 bucks brobot groupbuy will be celebrated soon, I hope you guys enjoys. Best regards!
:eek:
K3 lied?? :(
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 03 March 2015, 20:46:54
ur mumI'm pretty sure someone proved that the nasty vagina cap was a rip off too.
:-X Rip off of what??
(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140910191007/epicrapbattlesofhistory/images/c/c3/Ohhhhh.gif)
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 03 March 2015, 20:58:58
(http://i.imgur.com/FH46AHH.gif)ur mumI'm pretty sure someone proved that the nasty vagina cap was a rip off too.
:-X Rip off of what??Show Image(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140910191007/epicrapbattlesofhistory/images/c/c3/Ohhhhh.gif)
Post by: Synjin on Tue, 03 March 2015, 21:00:32
(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140910191007/epicrapbattlesofhistory/images/c/c3/Ohhhhh.gif)ur mumI'm pretty sure someone proved that the nasty vagina cap was a rip off too.
:-X Rip off of what??Show Image(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140910191007/epicrapbattlesofhistory/images/c/c3/Ohhhhh.gif)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FH46AHH.gif)
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 03 March 2015, 21:22:26
ur mumI'm pretty sure someone proved that the nasty vagina cap was a rip off too.
:-X Rip off of what??
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Post by: bueller on Tue, 03 March 2015, 21:25:09
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 04 March 2015, 04:48:01
I don't understand what's keeping him from coming up with his own unique design. He's obviously talented, yet he's content wasting his time and energy ripping off other people at no real benefit to himself.Show Image(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/4b/4be889bb1c20af2e99ef1a088fcbd28de0f6518262125a7bc6d541ecff6f66c8.jpg)
Why do people say he is talented? Knowing how and having the tools doesn't make you talented, it just makes you able. If he had any talent he would have put it to use, instead he lashed out at Bro and CC (for no reason) and then went stole there work, badly.
Production capabilities are still talent.
He has no artistic talent, however, and that's why he doesn't make his own designs. I'm not sure why people keep asking this question. Have we all forgotten about the "DOTA" (monster vagina) cap? The dude couldn't sculpt to save his life. Neither could I, but then I'm also not ripping off other people's designs. ;)
indeed
Post by: CaplockJack on Fri, 17 April 2015, 15:16:56
(http://i.imgur.com/ccPnxvP.jpg)
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 17 April 2015, 15:30:57
He is baaaaaack!I saw the original link on reddit, and even though they are direct copied molds, his look just wrong, like the forehead is too big, and the key feels unbalanced.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ccPnxvP.jpg)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 17 April 2015, 16:54:28
He is baaaaaack!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ccPnxvP.jpg)
still garbage
Post by: Synjin on Fri, 17 April 2015, 20:08:05
Crowdfunded DDOS? lol jkThere are ddos sites out there that don't charge an arm and a leg to target a site.
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 17 April 2015, 20:11:32
you can even use fiverr to "stress test" a websiteCrowdfunded DDOS? lol jkThere are ddos sites out there that don't charge an arm and a leg to target a site.
Post by: baldgye on Sat, 18 April 2015, 05:57:03
Post by: PunksDead on Sat, 18 April 2015, 06:58:41
Produces original wolf cap that nobody buys,
Back to stealing clack factory designs.
Dude just wants money
Post by: joneslee85 on Sat, 18 April 2015, 07:09:52
Post by: Michael on Sat, 18 April 2015, 10:14:09
I know a group of Vietnamese called k3c keyboard, they are behind lots of 'enhanced CC'. I've been argued with their supporters and they claimed that they did not copy the design, they just make the design better and make it more available and affordable to many people. I quit the Vietnamese Mech group because I could not deal with those ****heads.
I remember seeing that post you made. I thought to myself 'hey look... literally one person with any sense of decency there'. Such a shame.
I like how the wad up 1 dollar bills and make it look like they are ballin outta control with their fake caps.
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 18 April 2015, 11:20:20
Dudes a clown,
Produces original wolf cap that nobody buys,
Back to stealing clack factory designs.
Dude just wants money
The wolf just looked god awful too.
And I just realized why /r/mk is all wet for the new Poker. Pok3r...Pok3r.
I know a group of Vietnamese called k3c keyboard, they are behind lots of 'enhanced CC'. I've been argued with their supporters and they claimed that they did not copy the design, they just make the design better and make it more available and affordable to many people. I quit the Vietnamese Mech group because I could not deal with those ****heads.
Nice to know some people have decency. That site constantly blows me away.
Post by: phoenix1234 on Sat, 18 April 2015, 15:30:47
I know a group of Vietnamese called k3c keyboard, they are behind lots of 'enhanced CC'. I've been argued with their supporters and they claimed that they did not copy the design, they just make the design better and make it more available and affordable to many people. I quit the Vietnamese Mech group because I could not deal with those ****heads.
I remember your post when you quit the group. :))
It's stunning and surprised. It's quite frank and direct to the point. It is obviously a clear message to the group that "Hey, there is someone completely disagreed with k3c in the Vietnamese community and that one decided to quit the group, think about it!" Nevertheless, it's decent but it is not necessary to quit the group, you can just say it out loud, in my opinion.
I didn't support replica or fake novelty cap but I also didn't follow this novelty story. So I hope this k3c drama would not create an invisible wall between novelty crafters and Vietnamese members.
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 18 April 2015, 16:14:28
So I hope this k3c drama would not create an invisible wall between novelty crafters and Vietnamese members.
As long as he has a sub-forum there, as long as the head mod is a vocal supporter, and as long as he's supported there by a majority, it will be hard to trust anyone who is a member of that community who doesn't take drastic steps.
Post by: phoenix1234 on Sat, 18 April 2015, 21:42:06
So I hope this k3c drama would not create an invisible wall between novelty crafters and Vietnamese members.
As long as he has a sub-forum there, as long as the head mod is a vocal supporter, and as long as he's supported there by a majority, it will be hard to trust anyone who is a member of that community who doesn't take drastic steps.
You raised the point that I'm concerning about. So there is an invisible wall, sadly.
Vietnamese population is about 95 million today. It is a big potential market for keyboard and its related stuffs. To be precise, the Vietnamese keyboard community is beyond what vietnammechkey.com is delivering. Indeed, the VNMK does not represent the whole community of Vietnam because at least there are a few more groups (like https://www.facebook.com/groups/mechvn) and plus people don't join to any group.
In fact, the official location of VNMK is this facebook : https://www.facebook.com/groups/vietnammechanicalkeyboard. The website vietnammechkey.com was created later but many members didn't join due to unspecified reasons. In my case, I didn't join to vietnammechkey.com because I can see and foresee a lot of drama happened and will happen.
Speaking of the members of the facebook group, in my opinion and based on my perspectives, they join those communities are for many reason, some join for marketing, spamming and selling goods, some clone their own accounts, some join without any reason, some join for fun and hobby (including me) and so on. As I can see, there are many disagreements between members and VNMK (including this k3c case) but they can't do anything about it until it becomes a conflict of their interests.
With all respect, I'm not asking for a trust for anyone coming from the VNMK and other groups in Vietnam as well. In fact, trust is expensive these days. It must be built upon the credibility and decency. But what I want to highlight the fact that we can't just use the group they joined to judge people. A facebook group is just a social network, it is not real life, people join the group mostly for curiosity and fun. I agree with you that the head mod is a vocal supporter and k3c received the support from some members but we still need evidence to evaluate case by case basis.
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 18 April 2015, 22:13:42
I agree with you that the head mod is a vocal supporter and k3c received the support from some members but we still need evidence to evaluate case by case basis.
Completely agree. I was referencing specifically the crossover between that specific site and here. People who are members of it who don't speak out are hard to trust while those who aren't members or who speak out against it are easier to trust.
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 19 April 2015, 17:20:38
I agree with you that the head mod is a vocal supporter and k3c received the support from some members but we still need evidence to evaluate case by case basis.
Completely agree. I was referencing specifically the crossover between that specific site and here. People who are members of it who don't speak out are hard to trust while those who aren't members or who speak out against it are easier to trust.
People already **** on anyone with Vietnam as their location, whether or not they're actually a member of that particular community.
Post by: CaplockJack on Thu, 23 April 2015, 14:11:09
I agree with you that the head mod is a vocal supporter and k3c received the support from some members but we still need evidence to evaluate case by case basis.
Completely agree. I was referencing specifically the crossover between that specific site and here. People who are members of it who don't speak out are hard to trust while those who aren't members or who speak out against it are easier to trust.
People already **** on anyone with Vietnam as their location, whether or not they're actually a member of that particular community.
Good thing I am not Vietnamese!
Post by: phoenix1234 on Fri, 24 April 2015, 12:36:25
Good thing I am not Vietnamese!Really? Every post counts ...
Post by: whizzard on Thu, 21 May 2015, 12:37:59
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/161710374150?item=161710374150&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466&rmvSB=true (http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/161710374150?item=161710374150&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466&rmvSB=true)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Painted-Topre-Artisan-Keycap-cherry-mx-hhkb-click-clack-brocap-3d-key/161710371956?_trksid=p2054897.c100204.m3164&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140407115239%26meid%3Dc27fe41be6254be0800b7af8a7fcf09b%26pid%3D100204%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D27%26sd%3D161710374150 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Painted-Topre-Artisan-Keycap-cherry-mx-hhkb-click-clack-brocap-3d-key/161710371956?_trksid=p2054897.c100204.m3164&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140407115239%26meid%3Dc27fe41be6254be0800b7af8a7fcf09b%26pid%3D100204%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D27%26sd%3D161710374150)
This makes me very wary of any ebay keys from now on... especially from fresh accounts or unknown or untrusted members. I know I can tell the difference from a real and a knockoff but this was really depressing to find.
Post by: Halverson on Thu, 21 May 2015, 12:39:14
Post by: absyrd on Thu, 21 May 2015, 12:46:39
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 21 May 2015, 12:49:03
I was pretty concerned finding these on ebay... I am sure they are not legit. What do you guys think of this and have you seen it before?
Just FYI, you posted in member auction links, which is for members to advertise their own auctions, not bring up existing auctions to discuss.
Post by: beehatch on Thu, 21 May 2015, 12:49:21
Post by: HPE1000 on Thu, 21 May 2015, 13:00:30
He really seems to be trying to skate around the fact that they are fake by painting them and not informing the buyer that they were fakes to begin with.
Post by: jerue on Thu, 21 May 2015, 15:10:30
What do you guys think of this and have you seen it before?
I knew about fake Clacks, but not fake Bros (until today)
Look at all those dude's auctions. He is just painting knock-offs and real ones. Stay far far away.
Who would paint over a real Bro cap?!? :-\ :( (paint like that isn't helping any either)
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 21 May 2015, 17:06:17
I was pretty concerned finding these on ebay... I am sure they are not legit. What do you guys think of this and have you seen it before?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/161710374150?item=161710374150&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466&rmvSB=true (http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/161710374150?item=161710374150&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466&rmvSB=true)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Painted-Topre-Artisan-Keycap-cherry-mx-hhkb-click-clack-brocap-3d-key/161710371956?_trksid=p2054897.c100204.m3164&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140407115239%26meid%3Dc27fe41be6254be0800b7af8a7fcf09b%26pid%3D100204%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D27%26sd%3D161710374150 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Painted-Topre-Artisan-Keycap-cherry-mx-hhkb-click-clack-brocap-3d-key/161710371956?_trksid=p2054897.c100204.m3164&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140407115239%26meid%3Dc27fe41be6254be0800b7af8a7fcf09b%26pid%3D100204%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D27%26sd%3D161710374150)
This makes me very wary of any ebay keys from now on... especially from fresh accounts or unknown or untrusted members. I know I can tell the difference from a real and a knockoff but this was really depressing to find.
Lmao and here was me thinking those ****ty knock-off's couldn't look any worse hahah
Post by: Synjin on Thu, 21 May 2015, 17:10:26
It obviously was a professionally done paint job. I mean the bottom alone looks so fkn amazing that I can't stop thinking about it. Perhaps he will attempt a miami knockoff one too :p :p That I'd like to see.I was pretty concerned finding these on ebay... I am sure they are not legit. What do you guys think of this and have you seen it before?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/161710374150?item=161710374150&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466&rmvSB=true (http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/161710374150?item=161710374150&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466&rmvSB=true)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Painted-Topre-Artisan-Keycap-cherry-mx-hhkb-click-clack-brocap-3d-key/161710371956?_trksid=p2054897.c100204.m3164&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140407115239%26meid%3Dc27fe41be6254be0800b7af8a7fcf09b%26pid%3D100204%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D27%26sd%3D161710374150 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Painted-Topre-Artisan-Keycap-cherry-mx-hhkb-click-clack-brocap-3d-key/161710371956?_trksid=p2054897.c100204.m3164&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140407115239%26meid%3Dc27fe41be6254be0800b7af8a7fcf09b%26pid%3D100204%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D27%26sd%3D161710374150)
This makes me very wary of any ebay keys from now on... especially from fresh accounts or unknown or untrusted members. I know I can tell the difference from a real and a knockoff but this was really depressing to find.
Lmao and here was me thinking those ****ty knock-off's couldn't look any worse hahah
Post by: Ngt on Thu, 21 May 2015, 17:17:54
I was pretty concerned finding these on ebay... I am sure they are not legit. What do you guys think of this and have you seen it before?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/161710374150?item=161710374150&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466&rmvSB=true (http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/161710374150?item=161710374150&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466&rmvSB=true)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Painted-Topre-Artisan-Keycap-cherry-m-hhkb-click-clack-brocap-3d-key/161710371956?_trksid=p2054897.c100204.m3164&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140407115239%26meid%3Dc27fe41be6254be0800b7af8a7fcf09b%26pid%3D100204%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D27%26sd%3D161710374150 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Painted-Topre-Artisan-Keycap-cherry-mx-hhkb-click-clack-brocap-3d-key/161710371956?_trksid=p2054897.c100204.m3164&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140407115239%26meid%3Dc27fe41be6254be0800b7af8a7fcf09b%26pid%3D100204%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D27%26sd%3D161710374150)
This makes me very wary of any ebay keys from now on... especially from fresh accounts or unknown or untrusted members. I know I can tell the difference from a real and a knockoff but this was really depressing to find.
Damn that's some ****ty stuff! I didn't have the motivation to read through the 76 pages, sorry ... Can someone tell how CC did fight this false clack, if he did?
Post by: KeypressGraphics on Thu, 21 May 2015, 19:04:47
I'd like to introduce myself as the chap selling those painted artisan keycaps on ebay you've been discussing.
I bought those two about a month ago from the K3KC website, they are not Click Clack and Brocap originals - unfortunately the resolution on my crappy point & shoot camera isn't great so you may have trouble picking out the "K3" logo on the underside of each cap, but if you look at the shots closely it is hard to miss when you know what to look for.
I've just updated the text of my ads to make it absolutely clear they are K3KC caps. It was definitely not my intention to pass them off as originals and I apologize for any confusion.
My main interest lies in painting rather than the caps themselves. I've spent years painting miniatures and on returning to Geekhack after a long absence I noticed how many new designs of artisan keycaps were in circulation and how much interest had sprung up around them. I hadn't physically painted anything in a very long time (Photoshop's my tool of choice now) but knew right away how much better matt plastic always looks when painted and so decided it was worth trying.
I've since tried to get my hands on all the artisans I can find to paint, but getting hold of them can be tricky unless you happen to have a very leaky wallet or artisan caps of your own to trade. Having neither I've instead bought what I can find on ebay, shapeways and those two from K3KC.
Speaking of those two I'd hate for people to get the impression by painting & selling them I'm endorsing intellectual property theft, because I am not. However the designs themselves are unique and I was very keen to see how they'd turn out when painted but don't have access to the originals. Their ebay minimum prices reflect what I paid for them and whatever I make will be spent on other caps to paint.
Post by: Blackehart on Thu, 21 May 2015, 19:16:45
*busts out the popcorn*
*waits patiently*
:p
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 21 May 2015, 19:32:32
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 21 May 2015, 22:25:01
Post by: Belfong on Thu, 21 May 2015, 23:01:32
It's fine to paint any caps you have if you like it.
But then to resell it back in eBay, that's kinda weird to me. I am not sure what to make of it.
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 21 May 2015, 23:19:02
I think it's great that you have the talent to paint so well.
It's fine to paint any caps you have if you like it.
But then to resell it back in eBay, that's kinda weird to me. I am not sure what to make of it.
To buy a counterfeit to paint and resell is shady no matter what. Either buy the originals or don't buy at all.
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 21 May 2015, 23:24:24
I think it's great that you have the talent to paint so well.
It's fine to paint any caps you have if you like it.
But then to resell it back in eBay, that's kinda weird to me. I am not sure what to make of it.
To buy a counterfeit to paint and resell is shady no matter what. Either buy the originals or don't buy at all.
But then you wouldn't want to paint the originals!
Post by: KeypressGraphics on Fri, 22 May 2015, 00:39:52
I think it's great that you have the talent to paint so well.
It's fine to paint any caps you have if you like it.
But then to resell it back in eBay, that's kinda weird to me. I am not sure what to make of it.
I should've clarified my intentions in my earlier post Belfong.
Artisan keycaps look can look great but there's no doubt in my mind most will look much better painted. When I saw earlier in the year nobody's doing it (at least to my knowledge) it surprised me so I decided to pick up the brush about a month ago and get cracking.
I'd like to offer an artisan keycap painting service (possibly with full keyboards to follow down the track) but I need examples of my work and to brush up on my painting skills which are quite rusty. So I've been buying & painting what artisans I can find & afford to put together a portfolio so to speak, but as my financial situation isn't as flash as I'd like the end products are being sold to finance new artisans even though some I'd prefer to keep.
Hopefully that clears things up a little. I'll certainly avoid buying K3KC caps in future as I've no wish to damage the community or give offense to the legitimate creators of those designs.
For those curious here are most of the MX caps I've painted so far.
(http://s18.postimg.org/ectlx7jih/image.jpg)
(http://s12.postimg.org/9za2fs2kt/image.jpg)
Post by: Evo_Spec on Fri, 22 May 2015, 02:05:23
The problem isn't really about you painting caps and selling them as much as it's you financially supporting K3 by buying those caps. There's tons of other artisan caps you could have bought other than K3's ripoff caps.
Post by: Evo_Spec on Fri, 22 May 2015, 02:08:03
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 22 May 2015, 02:44:56
As for painting a real BB or CC I don't know why people would be upset about that. It's your cap, who's to say what you do with your own property. If someone bought a Lamborghini and decided to paint it glittery purple that's their prerogative and their property and no one should be able to tell them otherwise.
Come to think of it I'd be less upset over a painted original than a painted knockoff, but that probably wouldn't stop the GH witch hunt brigade from gathering their torches and pitchforks.
Post by: baldgye on Fri, 22 May 2015, 02:53:11
Hey everyone,
I'd like to introduce myself as the chap selling those painted artisan keycaps on ebay you've been discussing.
I bought those two about a month ago from the K3KC website, they are not Click Clack and Brocap originals - unfortunately the resolution on my crappy point & shoot camera isn't great so you may have trouble picking out the "K3" logo on the underside of each cap, but if you look at the shots closely it is hard to miss when you know what to look for.
I've just updated the text of my ads to make it absolutely clear they are K3KC caps. It was definitely not my intention to pass them off as originals and I apologize for any confusion.
My main interest lies in painting rather than the caps themselves. I've spent years painting miniatures and on returning to Geekhack after a long absence I noticed how many new designs of artisan keycaps were in circulation and how much interest had sprung up around them. I hadn't physically painted anything in a very long time (Photoshop's my tool of choice now) but knew right away how much better matt plastic always looks when painted and so decided it was worth trying.
I've since tried to get my hands on all the artisans I can find to paint, but getting hold of them can be tricky unless you happen to have a very leaky wallet or artisan caps of your own to trade. Having neither I've instead bought what I can find on ebay, shapeways and those two from K3KC.
Speaking of those two I'd hate for people to get the impression by painting & selling them I'm endorsing intellectual property theft, because I am not. However the designs themselves are unique and I was very keen to see how they'd turn out when painted but don't have access to the originals. Their ebay minimum prices reflect what I paid for them and whatever I make will be spent on other caps to paint.
By buying counterfeits, I'm not supporting counterfeiting, I just don't want to pay for a real one.
Logic.
Post by: KeypressGraphics on Fri, 22 May 2015, 03:40:28
Have you seen the "war of betrayal" caps? Those are painted caps, as well as bunnylake's hypno caps.
The problem isn't really about you painting caps and selling them as much as it's you financially supporting K3 by buying those caps. There's tons of other artisan caps you could have bought other than K3's ripoff caps.
Actually I have seen those War of Betrayal caps Evo_Spec. The images I've seen show a really cool grungy/industrial aesthetic and I like the way he's tied the different caps together with a theme. The hypno caps on the other hand I'd place in a different category, they're very impressive artistically and I know from experience painting freehand on plastic is much harder than it looks.
In hindsight buying K3KC's caps wasn't the wisest thing to do. As I said earlier I really don't want to be seen as supporting IP theft, because that's absolutely not what I'm about and wasn't on my mind when I bought them. I can't really afford to wear the loss but am happy to offload them for what I originally paid.
Post by: Karura on Fri, 22 May 2015, 04:48:26
Artisan keycaps look can look great but there's no doubt in my mind most will look much better painted. When I saw earlier in the year nobody's doing it (at least to my knowledge) it surprised me so I decided to pick up the brush about a month ago and get cracking.
One reason you might not find many fans of painted caps is simply because keyboards are just as much about tactile feel, as they are about aesthetics, seeing as they are essential input tools that we use day in and day out with our computers.
I'm happy to see that you've taken the initiative to create something new, and try to offer enthusiasts more options; that said, there is a lot of drama surrounding these counterfeits, some confrontations leading to the departure of certain members of our community, so it might be wise to find other caps in the future to work on :)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 22 May 2015, 07:20:56
Have you seen the "war of betrayal" caps? Those are painted caps, as well as bunnylake's hypno caps.
The problem isn't really about you painting caps and selling them as much as it's you financially supporting K3 by buying those caps. There's tons of other artisan caps you could have bought other than K3's ripoff caps.
Just an FYI do_Og@n did HyPnoCaPs https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49377.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49377.0)
Back in the day bunny did do some nail polish caps (and he has done a few other variants along the way) which were some of my first caps purchased and how I made a friend. :D https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42698.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42698.0)
Ok back to the regularly scheduled programming.
Post by: Xowie on Fri, 22 May 2015, 07:22:43
Mind you it's pretty much a sin to paint a real CC or BroBot so I get it but it's still not right to give your money to K3A bro and a clack from a dye experiment. The clack really soaked up the dye very quickly, and the bro was about the shade I was going for.
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Post by: Evo_Spec on Fri, 22 May 2015, 07:24:13
Welp! Looks like that clacks no good, I'll let you send it to me for disposal.Mind you it's pretty much a sin to paint a real CC or BroBot so I get it but it's still not right to give your money to K3A bro and a clack from a dye experiment. The clack really soaked up the dye very quickly, and the bro was about the shade I was going for.
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Post by: Fire Brand on Fri, 22 May 2015, 07:27:13
The shade of teal that bro cap is now is very nice looks like a pond to me :)Mind you it's pretty much a sin to paint a real CC or BroBot so I get it but it's still not right to give your money to K3A bro and a clack from a dye experiment. The clack really soaked up the dye very quickly, and the bro was about the shade I was going for.
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Post by: baldgye on Fri, 22 May 2015, 07:27:43
Mind you it's pretty much a sin to paint a real CC or BroBot so I get it but it's still not right to give your money to K3A bro and a clack from a dye experiment. The clack really soaked up the dye very quickly, and the bro was about the shade I was going for.
(Attachment Link)
that V2 looks awesome, the clack tho, not so much lol... what colour was it before the dye?
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 22 May 2015, 10:06:45
Teal Unicorn!!! I need it!Mind you it's pretty much a sin to paint a real CC or BroBot so I get it but it's still not right to give your money to K3A bro and a clack from a dye experiment. The clack really soaked up the dye very quickly, and the bro was about the shade I was going for.
(Attachment Link)
Post by: Signature on Fri, 22 May 2015, 16:50:59
Am I the only one that thinks that the clack looks bad-ass? :-XMind you it's pretty much a sin to paint a real CC or BroBot so I get it but it's still not right to give your money to K3A bro and a clack from a dye experiment. The clack really soaked up the dye very quickly, and the bro was about the shade I was going for.
(Attachment Link)
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 22 May 2015, 16:52:16
Am I the only one that thinks that the k3c looks bad-ass? :-XMind you it's pretty much a sin to paint a real CC or BroBot so I get it but it's still not right to give your money to K3A bro and a clack from a dye experiment. The clack really soaked up the dye very quickly, and the bro was about the shade I was going for.
(Attachment Link)
FTFY. And if you like it, just buy and don't tell anyone for fear of being hunted by the purists
WHOA, was thinking of the K3C painted on ebay. NVM ME
Post by: naasfu on Fri, 22 May 2015, 16:52:46
Am I the only one that thinks that the clack looks bad-ass? :-XMind you it's pretty much a sin to paint a real CC or BroBot so I get it but it's still not right to give your money to K3A bro and a clack from a dye experiment. The clack really soaked up the dye very quickly, and the bro was about the shade I was going for.
(Attachment Link)
I think Xowie had a Hardcore White, so that must be it. At least I like it better than that other white skull with the scribbled in red eyes from awhile ago.
Post by: Signature on Fri, 22 May 2015, 16:54:52
This ain't the k3kc I'm talking about, but the dye-clackAm I the only one that thinks that the k3c looks bad-ass? :-XMind you it's pretty much a sin to paint a real CC or BroBot so I get it but it's still not right to give your money to K3A bro and a clack from a dye experiment. The clack really soaked up the dye very quickly, and the bro was about the shade I was going for.
(Attachment Link)
FTFY. And if you like it, just buy and don't tell anyone for fear of being hunted by the purists
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 22 May 2015, 16:55:42
This ain't the k3kc I'm talking about, but the dye-clackAm I the only one that thinks that the k3c looks bad-ass? :-XMind you it's pretty much a sin to paint a real CC or BroBot so I get it but it's still not right to give your money to K3A bro and a clack from a dye experiment. The clack really soaked up the dye very quickly, and the bro was about the shade I was going for.
(Attachment Link)
FTFY. And if you like it, just buy and don't tell anyone for fear of being hunted by the purists
Yea, edited my post. My bad! Now to actually check out this dyed clack!
Post by: Signature on Fri, 22 May 2015, 16:58:04
loool yeah I remember that...Am I the only one that thinks that the clack looks bad-ass? :-XMind you it's pretty much a sin to paint a real CC or BroBot so I get it but it's still not right to give your money to K3A bro and a clack from a dye experiment. The clack really soaked up the dye very quickly, and the bro was about the shade I was going for.
(Attachment Link)
I think Xowie had a Hardcore White, so that must be it. At least I like it better than that other white skull with the scribbled in red eyes from awhile ago.
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 22 May 2015, 17:47:49
Mind you it's pretty much a sin to paint a real CC or BroBot so I get it but it's still not right to give your money to K3A bro and a clack from a dye experiment. The clack really soaked up the dye very quickly, and the bro was about the shade I was going for.
(Attachment Link)
I'm gonna need that Bro!
Post by: demik on Fri, 22 May 2015, 17:50:56
Artisan keycaps look can look great but there's no doubt in my mind most will look much better painted. When I saw earlier in the year nobody's doing it (at least to my knowledge) it surprised me so I decided to pick up the brush about a month ago and get cracking.
One reason you might not find many fans of painted caps is simply because keyboards are just as much about tactile feel, as they are about aesthetics, seeing as they are essential input tools that we use day in and day out with our computers.
I'm happy to see that you've taken the initiative to create something new, and try to offer enthusiasts more options; that said, there is a lot of drama surrounding these counterfeits, some confrontations leading to the departure of certain members of our community, so it might be wise to find other caps in the future to work on :)
Not on gh. This place is all about appearance.
Post by: Xowie on Fri, 22 May 2015, 18:00:40
Yea RIP Hardcore White.Am I the only one that thinks that the clack looks bad-ass? :-XMind you it's pretty much a sin to paint a real CC or BroBot so I get it but it's still not right to give your money to K3A bro and a clack from a dye experiment. The clack really soaked up the dye very quickly, and the bro was about the shade I was going for.
(Attachment Link)
I think Xowie had a Hardcore White, so that must be it. At least I like it better than that other white skull with the scribbled in red eyes from awhile ago.
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 22 May 2015, 18:36:59
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Fri, 22 May 2015, 18:53:40
Mind you it's pretty much a sin to paint a real CC or BroBot so I get it but it's still not right to give your money to K3A bro and a clack from a dye experiment. The clack really soaked up the dye very quickly, and the bro was about the shade I was going for.
(Attachment Link)
That BroBot
Post by: KeypressGraphics on Fri, 22 May 2015, 22:48:22
One reason you might not find many fans of painted caps is simply because keyboards are just as much about tactile feel, as they are about aesthetics, seeing as they are essential input tools that we use day in and day out with our computers.
I'm happy to see that you've taken the initiative to create something new, and try to offer enthusiasts more options; that said, there is a lot of drama surrounding these counterfeits, some confrontations leading to the departure of certain members of our community, so it might be wise to find other caps in the future to work on :)
Certainly Karura I can understand many people may prefer the look & feel of unpainted artisans . Particularly when they've never been shown how they can look painted.
Caps do feel slightly different painted. Similar to a pair of speakers, one with a sanded natural wood finish the other with a vinyl veneer. The veneer is softer & more yielding, only the difference with keycaps is much smaller as my technique involves applying thinned coats of paint with a consistency similar to milk. The difference in feel is more pronounced on metal caps that would otherwise be cold to the touch.
I protect my paintjobs with a layer of varnish followed by several layers of Testors Dullcote lacquer. It does a good job preventing paint being affected by fingertips, but the coating can still be scratched which is why I wouldn't recommend them for ladies with long fingernails.
Rest assured I've learned my lesson and won't be buying any more K3 caps in future.
Post by: ander on Sat, 23 May 2015, 04:38:31
I'm just saying, maybe it wasn't all that crucial in the first place. Of course there may be serious factors I'm overlooking here. I'm entirely willing to be wrong when it comes to things like this.
Post by: strict on Sat, 23 May 2015, 09:20:45
I may be way out in left field here�it certainly wouldn't be the first time�but if there really is this much angst over the possibility of buying a fake Clack (or clack) rather than a genuine one, maybe one alternative would be to take a step back from it all and ask yourself, "Why exactly am I so intent on replacing my Esc key with a little skull face? Is it mostly because a bunch of other people did it?" I mean, couldn't it just as easily have been a little recycling truck, or a candy cane, or Mr. Moneybags from Monopoly�?
I'm just saying, maybe it wasn't all that crucial in the first place. Of course there may be serious factors I'm overlooking here. I'm entirely willing to be wrong when it comes to things like this.
I think its a lot like when wal-mart started selling spinner hub cabs for cars. In the very early days people were seeing all these decked out, expensive cars with proper spinner rims and just started making the mental connection between these cool cars and the very unique wheels. Obviously most people could never afford (or justify) thousands of dollars for a set to put on their rusted out Plymouth K-cars but they could at least imitate the "cool kids" by heading down to wal-mart and dropping $60 on a set of cheap, plastic hub caps.
People have been seeing all these incredible keyboards around here from people Photek, naasfu, etc. and a good number of them are usually rocking a clack or two. Eventually people started making the mental link between the two and since its hard/expensive/time consuming to get clack they are turning to a clearly inferior product just to get the style.
Post by: ander on Sat, 23 May 2015, 16:22:08
I think it's great that people get so much pleasure out of stuff like this, or any collectable stuff, even though it may baffle people who don't care about it. (Hey, most people couldn't care less about mechanical keyboards in general—and don't you feel sorry for them?)
That said, if something like this is causing people more stress than pleasure, I'm just suggesting it might be a good idea to step back from it and decide how important it really is. Cheers, A.
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 23 May 2015, 20:26:29
I think 3Love bought that white one with scribbled eyes, didn’t he?
bought it and sold it
i remember seeing it in his thread
Post by: strict on Sat, 23 May 2015, 22:02:31
I think 3Love bought that white one with scribbled eyes, didn’t he?
bought it and sold it
i remember seeing it in his thread
What was it colored with, do we know? Always kind of looked like sharpie ink to me.
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 23 May 2015, 22:23:29
I think 3Love bought that white one with scribbled eyes, didn’t he?
bought it and sold it
i remember seeing it in his thread
What was it colored with, do we know? Always kind of looked like sharpie ink to me.
All I know is that it looked like **** and the person selling it still wanted an obscene price even though it was ****ed up.
Post by: Belfong on Sat, 23 May 2015, 22:29:03
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 23 May 2015, 22:31:02
The person who sold it had lots of keyboards for sale as well and was not truthful about the condition. I remember the drama on the RealForce 10AE.
dct nct or something? I thought he resolved those issues but I guess not.
Post by: Belfong on Sat, 23 May 2015, 22:34:01
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 24 May 2015, 00:04:07
The person who sold it had lots of keyboards for sale as well and was not truthful about the condition. I remember the drama on the RealForce 10AE.
dct nct or something? I thought he resolved those issues but I guess not.
Not exactly the cleanest resolution. :blank:
Post by: Huxley2500 on Sat, 25 July 2015, 18:06:40
http://www.k3kc.com/product-category/keycap/
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 25 July 2015, 18:28:11
And I still think that this "Clack" was a K3 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Translucent-GID-Glow-in-the-dark-ClickClack-Keycap-/231566349579?nma=true&si=eMKwOd7XIUf31EASNgDGBS2fXJE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557) or other fake.
Post by: baldgye on Sun, 26 July 2015, 02:36:11
Post by: beehatch on Sun, 26 July 2015, 02:44:57
It's funny. You'd think he would have some creativity (like some people suggest he makes his own caps) but no... Those colours are hideous and or just copies of other colours schemes.... Is he colour blind?
he tried his own caps, and they were terrifyingly bad.
(http://i.imgur.com/Poe7wo9.png)
(http://www.k3kc.com/file/dota-ruby-keycap.jpg)
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 26 July 2015, 02:47:41
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/070.gif)
Post by: Jokrik on Sun, 26 July 2015, 04:55:05
Every novelty keycap sold for more than $5 should go in the dumb-purchases thread..Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/070.gif)
More
(http://36.media.tumblr.com/57cef0eacb2497d069863e5b4cff9b49/tumblr_no248xrj0u1u475ako1_1280.jpg)
This will suits you, but it would cost more than 5$
Post by: suicidal_orange on Sun, 26 July 2015, 06:02:49
I'm surprised to see the wolf cap though, it shows he can sculpt. Unfortunately he hasn't got a good idea for a cap or an eye for colour - as an aspiring artist with no ideas myself I kinda feel sorry for the guy.
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 26 July 2015, 13:53:25
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8176/7998256411_a82a168743_b.jpg)
Post by: Fire Brand on Sun, 26 July 2015, 14:02:23
It's a really terrible "sculpture". It's like one of these retarded finger toys from when I was a kid, but worse:I should make a key with one of these on it or a set of three one with a face then a right and left arm :pShow Image(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8176/7998256411_a82a168743_b.jpg)
Post by: Huxley2500 on Fri, 14 August 2015, 16:55:07
Magnets now!
http://www.k3kc.com/shop/magnet-sculls-pack-01/
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Fri, 14 August 2015, 16:59:10
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 14 August 2015, 17:01:16
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 14 August 2015, 17:01:50
Magnets?
(http://i.imgur.com/qFyGzj9.png)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 14 August 2015, 17:25:12
:facepalm:
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Fri, 14 August 2015, 17:34:23
Gotta love when the fake clack that can't even be put on a keyboard retails for more than the real ones.
:facepalm:
Just get a metal case and stick it on that :P
Post by: slip84 on Sat, 15 August 2015, 07:54:03
NOT FOR KEYBOARD
Them for board.
Post by: baldgye on Sat, 15 August 2015, 09:17:49
Gotta love when the fake clack that can't even be put on a keyboard retails for more than the real ones.
:facepalm:
ITS BECAUSE I CANT AFFORD ONE SO I MAKE THEM CHEAP
Post by: Fire Brand on Sat, 15 August 2015, 09:31:43
Post by: baldgye on Sat, 15 August 2015, 09:35:25
Post by: Fire Brand on Sat, 15 August 2015, 09:46:39
Bar the insane price I actually really like the idea, having cheap reproduction stuff as magnets is actually kinda how the rest of the world does things... If bro ever made Reaper magnets I'd be allllllllllllllll over themOnly problem I see with that is as soon as I got one I would hollow it out and glue a cheapo keycap from a crap bag into it and use the key as a normal artisan :p
Post by: kernel on Sun, 04 October 2015, 08:24:31
Post by: BrewCaps on Mon, 12 October 2015, 20:11:05
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I think they could slash the fake market if there was a reasonable high-quantity CC/Bro cap for 25-30 USD each. It could have been only a one color, who cares!
Sign me up!
Post by: Dernubenfrieken on Tue, 13 October 2015, 10:28:37
I understand when CC's or Bro's cost alot, limited quantity, raffle system and such, but when someone copies it, and has literally 100 copies available, why would someone pay 30-50 USD for that? And even add "our keycaps have K3KC logo under the keycap so they're legit", wow, i really want a proof that i have bought an original copied keycap, seriously? I have seen a fake Bro for like 10 USD on TaoBao, and that's a reasonable price for a fake product, right?
People just really want artisans, period. Other than HKP's or 3D printed keys, its pretty difficult to lay down cash for a artisan, there's just not the supply. Some people don't really mind having a knockoff as long as they have something, as opposed to waiting around for raffles/giveaways/sales they might not even get into and then have to wait weeks for production/delivery.
Quote
I think they could slash the fake market if there was a reasonable high-quantity CC/Bro cap for 25-30 USD each. It could have been only a one color, who cares!
Truth, albeit slightly unrealistic.
Post by: Huxley2500 on Tue, 27 October 2015, 10:38:03
(http://i.imgur.com/sgHHwBE.png)
Post by: absyrd on Tue, 27 October 2015, 10:39:23
Are these fakes?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sgHHwBE.png)
Fake what?
They are HKP blanks never marketed as ccs.
Post by: beehatch on Tue, 27 October 2015, 10:40:13
Are these fakes?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sgHHwBE.png)
They all look like fakes to me, since I recall K3 selling those specific colors. Not sure about the white one (never saw it), but I know that colorway wasn't offered so more than likely a knock-off.
the ESC and FN are HKP caps...
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 27 October 2015, 10:42:18
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 27 October 2015, 10:43:41
Are these fakes?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sgHHwBE.png)
The blanks are HKP : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73385.0
The other are fake bbv2, the original colorway here : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74526.0
Post by: baldgye on Tue, 27 October 2015, 10:44:14
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 27 October 2015, 21:38:29
if only there was a list somewhere of all the v2 brobots.... (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74526.0)
I hadn't realised there were so many of them :eek:
And that's only Bro Bot V2s :eek: :eek:
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 27 October 2015, 22:56:10
if only there was a list somewhere of all the v2 brobots.... (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74526.0)MFW
(https://m.popkey.co/844fd5/qOOKA_fi-200x200.gif)
Post by: btctopre on Thu, 05 November 2015, 09:46:27
(http://i.imgur.com/ijUP46N.jpg)
Post by: Bromono on Thu, 05 November 2015, 10:01:52
and the derivative battle rages onShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ijUP46N.jpg)
Has bro even released his new v2 reaper?
Post by: Sinanju on Thu, 05 November 2015, 10:03:21
and the derivative battle rages onShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ijUP46N.jpg)
Has bro even released his new v2 reaper?
Pretty sure he has only released some pictures of it. At least its not a 100% copy of Bros.
Post by: Bromono on Thu, 05 November 2015, 10:07:29
and the derivative battle rages onShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ijUP46N.jpg)
Has bro even released his new v2 reaper?
Pretty sure he has only released some pictures of it. K3s looks pretty ugly.
It looks ridiculous if he was going for a direct copy. Once bro releases his and the detail is compared to his. It will show that he truly is **** at carving original caps. Probably the only reason he tries to steal other work.
Idk I think he shot him self in the foot with this.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 05 November 2015, 11:37:32
No matter how ****ty they look reddit will buy them.and the derivative battle rages onShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ijUP46N.jpg)
Has bro even released his new v2 reaper?
Pretty sure he has only released some pictures of it. K3s looks pretty ugly.
It looks ridiculous if he was going for a direct copy. Once bro releases his and the detail is compared to his. It will show that he truly is **** at carving original caps. Probably the only reason he tries to steal other work.
Idk I think he shot him self in the foot with this.
Lobo is proof of that.
Post by: demik on Thu, 05 November 2015, 11:38:27
You mean the ice age squirrel?No matter how ****ty they look reddit will buy them.and the derivative battle rages onShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ijUP46N.jpg)
Has bro even released his new v2 reaper?
Pretty sure he has only released some pictures of it. K3s looks pretty ugly.
It looks ridiculous if he was going for a direct copy. Once bro releases his and the detail is compared to his. It will show that he truly is **** at carving original caps. Probably the only reason he tries to steal other work.
Idk I think he shot him self in the foot with this.
Lobo is proof of that.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 05 November 2015, 11:40:33
:)) I knew I recognized the face.You mean the ice age squirrel?No matter how ****ty they look reddit will buy them.and the derivative battle rages onShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ijUP46N.jpg)
Has bro even released his new v2 reaper?
Pretty sure he has only released some pictures of it. K3s looks pretty ugly.
It looks ridiculous if he was going for a direct copy. Once bro releases his and the detail is compared to his. It will show that he truly is **** at carving original caps. Probably the only reason he tries to steal other work.
Idk I think he shot him self in the foot with this.
Lobo is proof of that.
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 05 November 2015, 11:52:19
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 05 November 2015, 14:36:32
and the derivative battle rages onShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ijUP46N.jpg)
Still makin' the monster vag, huh.
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Thu, 05 November 2015, 14:55:20
Then his fake v2 reaper will be the Fake v2 Reaper v2
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 05 November 2015, 14:59:02
and the derivative battle rages onShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ijUP46N.jpg)
Still makin' the monster vag, huh.
I still stand by that description. So perfect for it.
Post by: inanis on Thu, 05 November 2015, 15:12:30
and the derivative battle rages onShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ijUP46N.jpg)
Still makin' the monster vag, huh.
This made me LOL in my cubicle. When people asked why I couldn't explain. I'm pretty sure saying "Monster Vag" would have me sent to HR in a hot second. :))
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 05 November 2015, 15:16:01
and the derivative battle rages onShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ijUP46N.jpg)
Still makin' the monster vag, huh.
This made me LOL in my cubicle. When people asked why I couldn't explain. I'm pretty sure saying "Monster Vag" would have me sent to HR in a hot second. :))
I rather loudly jokingly told one of my female co-workers to stop checking out the ass of another female co-worker this morning and still haven't had an HR call, so I think taking about monster vags would probably be okay. Did I also mention that there were some higher ups there that I didn't notice when I said it? I don't think they heard, so I'm good.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sat, 07 November 2015, 13:57:27
and the derivative battle rages onShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ijUP46N.jpg)
Still makin' the monster vag, huh.
Can't unsee
Post by: jaffers on Sun, 06 December 2015, 15:29:33
and the derivative battle rages onShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ijUP46N.jpg)
Still makin' the monster vag, huh.
At first I didn't get it... haha +1
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sun, 06 December 2015, 17:58:58
and the derivative battle rages onShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ijUP46N.jpg)
Still makin' the monster vag, huh.
**** you. Stop this.
Post by: crickclackman on Thu, 11 February 2016, 19:51:03
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/45a7sm/yep_that_is_a_fake_artisan/
Lol! :))
Post by: Michael on Thu, 11 February 2016, 20:00:35
Looks like more colors too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/45a7sm/yep_that_is_a_fake_artisan/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/45a7sm/yep_that_is_a_fake_artisan/)
Lol! :))
Nice to see you back at GH, ripster.
Post by: whmeltonjr on Thu, 11 February 2016, 20:03:07
Looks like more colors too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/45a7sm/yep_that_is_a_fake_artisan/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/45a7sm/yep_that_is_a_fake_artisan/)
Lol! :))
Nice to see you back at GH, ripster.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/711d6ed78cda5f88cdebf49a391b3a83/tumblr_mssdnaaLqC1shm9rjo1_500.gif)
Post by: romevi on Thu, 11 February 2016, 20:04:18
Looks like more colors too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/45a7sm/yep_that_is_a_fake_artisan/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/45a7sm/yep_that_is_a_fake_artisan/)
Lol! :))
Nice to see you back at GH, ripster.
I secretly wish I was on gh when ripster was here.
Does this mean I get my wish?
Post by: FLFisherman on Thu, 11 February 2016, 20:05:21
Looks like more colors too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/45a7sm/yep_that_is_a_fake_artisan/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/45a7sm/yep_that_is_a_fake_artisan/)
Lol! :))
Nice to see you back at GH, ripster.
I secretly wish I was on gh when ripster was here.
Does this mean I get my wish?
Must have something to do with the stars and KeyKollectiv...
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 11 February 2016, 20:12:05
He never left. :rolleyes:Looks like more colors too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/45a7sm/yep_that_is_a_fake_artisan/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/45a7sm/yep_that_is_a_fake_artisan/)
Lol! :))
Nice to see you back at GH, ripster.
I secretly wish I was on gh when ripster was here.
Does this mean I get my wish?
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 12 February 2016, 03:48:30
He never left. :rolleyes:Looks like more colors too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/45a7sm/yep_that_is_a_fake_artisan/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/45a7sm/yep_that_is_a_fake_artisan/)
Lol! :))
Nice to see you back at GH, ripster.
I secretly wish I was on gh when ripster was here.
Does this mean I get my wish?
His spirit haunts the forum?
Plot twist: Rippy is K3!
Post by: Moistgun on Fri, 26 February 2016, 21:22:26
http://www.k3kc.com/color-of-year-2016-sale/
Post by: cicada on Sun, 08 May 2016, 02:50:28
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 08 May 2016, 04:49:06
Post by: nguyenkimtam on Sun, 08 May 2016, 04:56:22
I doubt anything will really stop K3, but it's nice to know more and more online communities are recognising his copies for what they are.My main point is not really stop K3 , i just want more and more people know about his bad. There are many newbies in Vietnamese community so they don't know about it. Sometimes i heard that k3kc designed skull :eek:
In addition , i think that's can be limited his action in our community.
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 08 May 2016, 06:16:57
I doubt anything will really stop K3, but it's nice to know more and more online communities are recognising his copies for what they are.My main point is not really stop K3 , i just want more and more people know about his bad. There are many newbies in Vietnamese community so they don't know about it. Sometimes i heard that k3kc designed skull :eek:
In addition , i think that's can be limited his action in our community.
We've had a few new members joining here, proudly showing their K3 keycaps, completely unaware of the real original of the design.
Fortunately most of them, if not all, have vowed to never support K3 again.
Post by: suicidal_orange on Sun, 08 May 2016, 07:03:51
Post by: meiosis on Sun, 31 July 2016, 13:38:25
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 01 August 2016, 06:00:11
I'd beware on Ruby Red Topre /MX cc's as there are more in circulation then there were made.
That's a shame as that's one of the very few that I really want.
Post by: joey on Mon, 01 August 2016, 06:01:39
I'd beware on Ruby Red Topre /MX cc's as there are more in circulation then there were made.How do you know how many were made?
Post by: meiosis on Mon, 01 August 2016, 08:24:41
Was one of the rarest ccs ever made when I joined and people talked about how there was under 5. Just recently I've heard of them being traded around very frequently some people having multiples.I'd beware on Ruby Red Topre /MX cc's as there are more in circulation then there were made.How do you know how many were made?
Post by: Fire Brand on Mon, 01 August 2016, 09:34:48
They can back last clackvent and I would safely assume more will appear this clackvent? but again that's speculation same with you noting how many there were originally just speculationWas one of the rarest ccs ever made when I joined and people talked about how there was under 5. Just recently I've heard of them being traded around very frequently some people having multiples.I'd beware on Ruby Red Topre /MX cc's as there are more in circulation then there were made.How do you know how many were made?
Post by: meiosis on Mon, 01 August 2016, 09:49:33
I heard they were non-cv marked, but at this point some people have acquired multiple of ruby reds it seems and have been trading them at quite low value compared to what most trans clacks go for, it is speculation but it does seem odd how many are out there now when before it was one of the most covetedThey can back last clackvent and I would safely assume more will appear this clackvent? but again that's speculation same with you noting how many there were originally just speculationWas one of the rarest ccs ever made when I joined and people talked about how there was under 5. Just recently I've heard of them being traded around very frequently some people having multiples.I'd beware on Ruby Red Topre /MX cc's as there are more in circulation then there were made.How do you know how many were made?
Post by: Moistgun on Mon, 01 August 2016, 09:56:54
I heard they were non-cv marked, but at this point some people have acquired multiple of ruby reds it seems and have been trading them at quite low value compared to what most trans clacks go for, it is speculation but it does seem odd how many are out there now when before it was one of the most covetedThey can back last clackvent and I would safely assume more will appear this clackvent? but again that's speculation same with you noting how many there were originally just speculationWas one of the rarest ccs ever made when I joined and people talked about how there was under 5. Just recently I've heard of them being traded around very frequently some people having multiples.I'd beware on Ruby Red Topre /MX cc's as there are more in circulation then there were made.How do you know how many were made?
Someone needs to pass the memo to Photekq
Post by: Photekq on Mon, 01 August 2016, 12:46:17
Post by: ANightOnCloudNine on Mon, 01 August 2016, 12:48:32
Post by: romevi on Mon, 01 August 2016, 12:54:26
if it looks the same i'll get the cheaper option tbh even if its "fake"
:blank:
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 01 August 2016, 16:35:29
I heard they were non-cv marked, but at this point some people have acquired multiple of ruby reds it seems and have been trading them at quite low value compared to what most trans clacks go for, it is speculation but it does seem odd how many are out there now when before it was one of the most covetedThey can back last clackvent and I would safely assume more will appear this clackvent? but again that's speculation same with you noting how many there were originally just speculationWas one of the rarest ccs ever made when I joined and people talked about how there was under 5. Just recently I've heard of them being traded around very frequently some people having multiples.I'd beware on Ruby Red Topre /MX cc's as there are more in circulation then there were made.How do you know how many were made?
A few people won a Ruby Red last CV, they all were marked with the CV gold dots. I believe 4 people, so yes there are more RR's then there were.
Post by: meiosis on Mon, 01 August 2016, 16:37:27
These don't have the marking, they are being traded off as original CC's and I know of two cases where the person offering them has traded over three, it's all speculation but I don't recall them ever being as common to obtain 3 and then trade them at half or a third value.I heard they were non-cv marked, but at this point some people have acquired multiple of ruby reds it seems and have been trading them at quite low value compared to what most trans clacks go for, it is speculation but it does seem odd how many are out there now when before it was one of the most covetedThey can back last clackvent and I would safely assume more will appear this clackvent? but again that's speculation same with you noting how many there were originally just speculationWas one of the rarest ccs ever made when I joined and people talked about how there was under 5. Just recently I've heard of them being traded around very frequently some people having multiples.I'd beware on Ruby Red Topre /MX cc's as there are more in circulation then there were made.How do you know how many were made?
A few people won a Ruby Red last CV, they all were marked with the CV gold dots. I believe 4 people, so yes there are more RR's then there were.
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 01 August 2016, 16:45:37
These don't have the marking, they are being traded off as original CC's and I know of two cases where the person offering them has traded over three, it's all speculation but I don't recall them ever being as common to obtain 3 and then trade them at half or a third value.I heard they were non-cv marked, but at this point some people have acquired multiple of ruby reds it seems and have been trading them at quite low value compared to what most trans clacks go for, it is speculation but it does seem odd how many are out there now when before it was one of the most covetedThey can back last clackvent and I would safely assume more will appear this clackvent? but again that's speculation same with you noting how many there were originally just speculationWas one of the rarest ccs ever made when I joined and people talked about how there was under 5. Just recently I've heard of them being traded around very frequently some people having multiples.I'd beware on Ruby Red Topre /MX cc's as there are more in circulation then there were made.How do you know how many were made?
A few people won a Ruby Red last CV, they all were marked with the CV gold dots. I believe 4 people, so yes there are more RR's then there were.
I'm sure more OG Ruby Reds exist then we know of, but most of them are probably buried in closets of old members who don't come around any more. I have seen cases of some rarer colorways appearing around the same time (there was a Topre Glass Green I'd never seen, then there were two more found shortly after)
There must be a plastic test to see if they are original Clacks. Like making a mark on the underside with acetone and see if it discolors (which according to Rippy, it won't)
With counterfeiters getting bolder there needs to be a clear way to test OG'ness.
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Tue, 16 July 2019, 17:37:34
The inconsistencies in the teeth and bleeding on the sides. I think the eyes look quite a bit more shallow and glossy
(https://i.imgur.com/LzAFYAO.png)
My first thought was to check for the FXE on the underside and it looks like there is one there but looking more closely at the stem, it seems there are some irregularities there as well.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/e~EAAOSw7wJc-22q/s-l500.jpg)
Thankfully, it wasn't expensive. The small price lead me to not investigate the authenticity of the cap more thoroughly and quickly make an offer before others got the chance. Hopefully, its just an old fake resurfacing and not indicative of more to come.
Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 18 July 2019, 18:20:00
Was a fool and hastily purchased a cap that looked like an OG tri but is almost certainly a fake. It will be a week or two before it arrives from the UK and I'll take some pictures at that time but just wanted to let you know in case more pop up. Lightning pointed out the embarrassingly obvious signs that I overlooked:
The inconsistencies in the teeth and bleeding on the sides. I think the eyes look quite a bit more shallow and glossyShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/LzAFYAO.png)
My first thought was to check for the FXE on the underside and it looks like there is one there but looking more closely at the stem, it seems there are some irregularities there as well.Show Image(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/e~EAAOSw7wJc-22q/s-l500.jpg)
Thankfully, it wasn't expensive. The small price lead me to not investigate the authenticity of the cap more thoroughly and quickly make an offer before others got the chance. Hopefully, its just an old fake resurfacing and not indicative of more to come.
Bring on the fake clacks! Seems like a lot of work to make these, is there still a market? Or are these just oldies floating around?
Post by: Signature on Thu, 18 July 2019, 18:29:27
Def still a market mainly for MX clacks. Haven´t seen a fake in a bit tho :confused:Was a fool and hastily purchased a cap that looked like an OG tri but is almost certainly a fake. It will be a week or two before it arrives from the UK and I'll take some pictures at that time but just wanted to let you know in case more pop up. Lightning pointed out the embarrassingly obvious signs that I overlooked:
The inconsistencies in the teeth and bleeding on the sides. I think the eyes look quite a bit more shallow and glossyShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/LzAFYAO.png)
My first thought was to check for the FXE on the underside and it looks like there is one there but looking more closely at the stem, it seems there are some irregularities there as well.Show Image(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/e~EAAOSw7wJc-22q/s-l500.jpg)
Thankfully, it wasn't expensive. The small price lead me to not investigate the authenticity of the cap more thoroughly and quickly make an offer before others got the chance. Hopefully, its just an old fake resurfacing and not indicative of more to come.
Bring on the fake clacks! Seems like a lot of work to make these, is there still a market? Or are these just oldies floating around?
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Thu, 18 July 2019, 18:34:40
Post by: Signature on Thu, 18 July 2019, 18:42:22
I can only imagine how hard it is to get the details just right. The skull seems like a simple design and it generally is but there are a lot of subtle qualities I'm still learning of, obviously. This was one the previous owner had purchased on ebay for 15 USD. She also added "wrong fit leading to sale" after the fact :rolleyes: so what should I do after I take better pictures of it? Burn it?A clackrifice :O
Post by: Sifo on Thu, 18 July 2019, 18:52:14
Post by: noisyturtle on Thu, 18 July 2019, 21:04:41
I can only imagine how hard it is to get the details just right. The skull seems like a simple design and it generally is but there are a lot of subtle qualities I'm still learning of, obviously. This was one the previous owner had purchased on ebay for 15 USD. She also added "wrong fit leading to sale" after the fact :rolleyes: so what should I do after I take better pictures of it? Burn it?
Eat it, then poop it out on your lawn and take a pic the k3 encased in ****. That's the most it deserves.
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 22 July 2019, 22:01:47
Post by: absyrd on Wed, 28 October 2020, 18:45:04
How long has cc been gone? At what point would you personally consider a K3kc?
As with all art, knock-offs are bound to happen. Then you add in scarcity due to the artist either changing or dying/disappearing. My favorite art critic has all well-done repros because the real thing is just not obtainable.
How much has K3kc screwed over the long-time cap makers? Bro is still producing, so I can see more of an issue there. In that case, buying any clone from K3kc hurts all the makers.
Where do YOU draw the line?
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 28 October 2020, 18:56:13
Sorry for the necro, but I have a question after being out of the loop for so long.
How long has cc been gone? At what point would you personally consider a K3kc?
As with all art, knock-offs are bound to happen. Then you add in scarcity due to the artist either changing or dying/disappearing. My favorite art critic has all well-done repros because the real thing is just not obtainable.
How much has K3kc screwed over the long-time cap makers? Bro is still producing, so I can see more of an issue there. In that case, buying any clone from K3kc hurts all the makers.
Where do YOU draw the line?
I wouldn't ever buy a k3. I have no interest in buying fakes and I've come to terms that some things just aren't accessible.
Post by: Dongulator on Wed, 28 October 2020, 18:58:10
Post by: absyrd on Wed, 28 October 2020, 18:59:51
Sorry for the necro, but I have a question after being out of the loop for so long.
How long has cc been gone? At what point would you personally consider a K3kc?
As with all art, knock-offs are bound to happen. Then you add in scarcity due to the artist either changing or dying/disappearing. My favorite art critic has all well-done repros because the real thing is just not obtainable.
How much has K3kc screwed over the long-time cap makers? Bro is still producing, so I can see more of an issue there. In that case, buying any clone from K3kc hurts all the makers.
Where do YOU draw the line?
I wouldn't ever buy a k3. I have no interest in buying fakes and I've come to terms that some things just aren't accessible.
Devil’s advocate: You love Van Gogh. You want Starry Night. Do you buy a poster?
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 28 October 2020, 19:04:35
Sorry for the necro, but I have a question after being out of the loop for so long.
How long has cc been gone? At what point would you personally consider a K3kc?
As with all art, knock-offs are bound to happen. Then you add in scarcity due to the artist either changing or dying/disappearing. My favorite art critic has all well-done repros because the real thing is just not obtainable.
How much has K3kc screwed over the long-time cap makers? Bro is still producing, so I can see more of an issue there. In that case, buying any clone from K3kc hurts all the makers.
Where do YOU draw the line?
I wouldn't ever buy a k3. I have no interest in buying fakes and I've come to terms that some things just aren't accessible.
Devil’s advocate: You love Van Gogh. You want Starry Night. Do you buy a poster?
That example feels a little different considering the guy has been long dead.
Better example: would I buy a banksy or other modern living artist print that's been duped?
No.
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 28 October 2020, 19:08:59
Sorry for the necro, but I have a question after being out of the loop for so long.
How long has cc been gone? At what point would you personally consider a K3kc?
As with all art, knock-offs are bound to happen. Then you add in scarcity due to the artist either changing or dying/disappearing. My favorite art critic has all well-done repros because the real thing is just not obtainable.
How much has K3kc screwed over the long-time cap makers? Bro is still producing, so I can see more of an issue there. In that case, buying any clone from K3kc hurts all the makers.
Where do YOU draw the line?
I wouldn't ever buy a k3. I have no interest in buying fakes and I've come to terms that some things just aren't accessible.
Devil’s advocate: You love Van Gogh. You want Starry Night. Do you buy a poster?
poster =/= counterfeit painting
Post by: noisyturtle on Wed, 28 October 2020, 19:18:19
Artists sell prints, that is a known thing people who cannot afford an original have the option to get one. I have a few KAWs prints, they still cost a lot of money (hundreds vs hundreds of thousands) but they are accepted and respectable displays by both the artist and community.
Post by: Dongulator on Wed, 28 October 2020, 19:56:40
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 28 October 2020, 20:01:09
Question while this thread is semi-active... Has anyone spotted a fake clack that wasn't k3kc? I fear there are fakes with [cc] or [cf] or whatever the other branding is maybe [Freedom] on the birds ;)
Yes there are fakes other than k3kc with the original clack branding
Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 28 October 2020, 20:30:09
Question while this thread is semi-active... Has anyone spotted a fake clack that wasn't k3kc? I fear there are fakes with [cc] or [cf] or whatever the other branding is maybe [Freedom] on the birds ;)
I have never seen one in person but there are a ton of fake cc circling around. It's impossible to grow cc collection now. Can't buy or trade for any cc unless you know exactly how it ends up from clack factory to the seller. Those fakes have totally ruined it.
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 28 October 2020, 21:08:28
Sorry for the necro, but I have a question after being out of the loop for so long.
How long has cc been gone? At what point would you personally consider a K3kc?
As with all art, knock-offs are bound to happen. Then you add in scarcity due to the artist either changing or dying/disappearing. My favorite art critic has all well-done repros because the real thing is just not obtainable.
How much has K3kc screwed over the long-time cap makers? Bro is still producing, so I can see more of an issue there. In that case, buying any clone from K3kc hurts all the makers.
Where do YOU draw the line?
CC has been gone since the midst of Clack Happens in Feb 2019 with the ketchup poem contest.
Came back with Clack Factory to make a single post on April Fools' 2020.
I would never, ever support K3KC. It's hurtful to the original maker. It's hurtful to collectors. Do not support counterfeits.
Question while this thread is semi-active... Has anyone spotted a fake clack that wasn't k3kc? I fear there are fakes with [cc] or [cf] or whatever the other branding is maybe [Freedom] on the birds ;)
I have not held one in hand myself but have heard of CF-branded fakes. These definitely do exist.
Post by: Dongulator on Wed, 28 October 2020, 21:19:58
Question while this thread is semi-active... Has anyone spotted a fake clack that wasn't k3kc? I fear there are fakes with [cc] or [cf] or whatever the other branding is maybe [Freedom] on the birds ;)
Yes there are fakes other than k3kc with the original clack branding
Good to know, sounds like if I ever end up getting someone to sell one they will have to be from geekhack with an older/known account.. wish me luck :rolleyes:
Post by: hwood34 on Wed, 28 October 2020, 22:15:16
Question while this thread is semi-active... Has anyone spotted a fake clack that wasn't k3kc? I fear there are fakes with [cc] or [cf] or whatever the other branding is maybe [Freedom] on the birds ;)
Yes there are fakes other than k3kc with the original clack branding
I'm sure a lot of those are from k3 was making straight fakes
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 28 October 2020, 22:20:49
Question while this thread is semi-active... Has anyone spotted a fake clack that wasn't k3kc? I fear there are fakes with [cc] or [cf] or whatever the other branding is maybe [Freedom] on the birds ;)
Yes there are fakes other than k3kc with the original clack branding
I'm sure a lot of those are from k3 was making straight fakes
Probably those too
Post by: absyrd on Wed, 28 October 2020, 22:22:10
Speaking of banksy, I had 4 signed and 3 unsigned prints from POW. I still bought a fake GWB on canvas to have it look like the balloon was floating up my staircase. It was the unobtainable image at the time.
EDIT: So I gather the update is that people won’t buy replicas, still hold out hope cc comes back, and that I make bad analogies.
Post by: absyrd on Wed, 28 October 2020, 23:06:40
Question while this thread is semi-active... Has anyone spotted a fake clack that wasn't k3kc? I fear there are fakes with [cc] or [cf] or whatever the other branding is maybe [Freedom] on the birds ;)
I have never seen one in person but there are a ton of fake cc circling around. It's impossible to grow cc collection now. Can't buy or trade for any cc unless you know exactly how it ends up from clack factory to the seller. Those fakes have totally ruined it.
Crazy that you need provenance nowadays. Great point. Sorry you can’t get what you want.
I would never, ever support K3KC. It's hurtful to the original maker. It's hurtful to collectors. Do not support counterfeits.
Respect.
It's not at all like either of those examples. It's like wanting a pair of Jordan's but instead getting fake one's for the same price made by some kid in an apartment in Shanghai.
Artists sell prints, that is a known thing people who cannot afford an original have the option to get one. I have a few KAWs prints, they still cost a lot of money (hundreds vs hundreds of thousands) but they are accepted and respectable displays by both the artist and community.
What KAWS stuff do you have? I never got into him. Talk about tons of fakes.
I wouldn't ever buy a k3. I have no interest in buying fakes and I've come to terms that some things just aren't accessible.
Everything is accessible to a giraffe.
I'm sure a lot of those are from k3 was making straight fakes
Also helpful info. I'm trying to get back into this hobby, and I guess I'll stick to seeking out familiar members to buy things from and make trades with.
Sorry for all the editing. Was trying to reply on my tiny phone while having a midnight snack.
Post by: naasfu on Thu, 29 October 2020, 01:04:49
there are a lot of fakes from the last couple of years. the ones i've seen are single colors (including translucents), drunken, and candy corn. i would avoid all of those. even reputable people have unknowingly picked them up, so don't just go by the previous owner. you need to know the full ownership history or find someone who had the clacks from a long time ago.
i've heard of other fufu like OG tri and OG night owl, but i don't remember seeing photos of them so i don't know how good or bad they are.
i'm guessing the recent shiny eyed skulls and any with the 3 dots should probably be ok.
nowadays, people are throwing stupid amounts of money at people with throwaway accounts, and not doing much research either. it's pretty dumb.
Post by: absyrd on Thu, 29 October 2020, 01:11:12
Post by: Sifo on Thu, 29 October 2020, 01:23:05