fake clack discussion

[cicada]

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[rowdy]

I doubt anything will really stop K3, but it's nice to know more and more online communities are recognising his copies for what they are.

[nguyenkimtam]

I doubt anything will really stop K3, but it's nice to know more and more online communities are recognising his copies for what they are.

My main point is not really stop K3 , i just want more and more people know about his bad. There are many newbies in Vietnamese  community so they don't know about it. Sometimes i heard that k3kc designed skull
In addition , i think that's can be limited his action in our  community.

[rowdy]

I doubt anything will really stop K3, but it's nice to know more and more online communities are recognising his copies for what they are.

My main point is not really stop K3 , i just want more and more people know about his bad. There are many newbies in Vietnamese  community so they don't know about it. Sometimes i heard that k3kc designed skull
In addition , i think that's can be limited his action in our  community.

We've had a few new members joining here, proudly showing their K3 keycaps, completely unaware of the real original of the design.

Fortunately most of them, if not all, have vowed to never support K3 again.

[suicidal_orange]

Was saddened to see this thread bumped again and expected the worst, but it's good news for a change

[meiosis]

I'd beware on Ruby Red Topre /MX cc's as there are more in circulation then there were made.

[rowdy]

I'd beware on Ruby Red Topre /MX cc's as there are more in circulation then there were made.

That's a shame as that's one of the very few that I really want.

[joey]

I'd beware on Ruby Red Topre /MX cc's as there are more in circulation then there were made.

How do you know how many were made?

[meiosis]

I'd beware on Ruby Red Topre /MX cc's as there are more in circulation then there were made.

How do you know how many were made?

Was one of the rarest ccs ever made when I joined and people talked about how there was under 5. Just recently I've heard of them being traded around very frequently some people having multiples.

[Fire Brand]

I'd beware on Ruby Red Topre /MX cc's as there are more in circulation then there were made.

How do you know how many were made?

Was one of the rarest ccs ever made when I joined and people talked about how there was under 5. Just recently I've heard of them being traded around very frequently some people having multiples.

They can back last clackvent and I would safely assume more will appear this clackvent? but again that's speculation same with you noting how many there were originally just speculation

[meiosis]

I'd beware on Ruby Red Topre /MX cc's as there are more in circulation then there were made.

How do you know how many were made?

Was one of the rarest ccs ever made when I joined and people talked about how there was under 5. Just recently I've heard of them being traded around very frequently some people having multiples.

They can back last clackvent and I would safely assume more will appear this clackvent? but again that's speculation same with you noting how many there were originally just speculation

I heard they were non-cv marked, but at this point some people have acquired multiple of ruby reds it seems and have been trading them at quite low value compared to what most trans clacks go for, it is speculation but it does seem odd how many are out there now when before it was one of the most coveted

[Moistgun]

I'd beware on Ruby Red Topre /MX cc's as there are more in circulation then there were made.

How do you know how many were made?

Was one of the rarest ccs ever made when I joined and people talked about how there was under 5. Just recently I've heard of them being traded around very frequently some people having multiples.

They can back last clackvent and I would safely assume more will appear this clackvent? but again that's speculation same with you noting how many there were originally just speculation

I heard they were non-cv marked, but at this point some people have acquired multiple of ruby reds it seems and have been trading them at quite low value compared to what most trans clacks go for, it is speculation but it does seem odd how many are out there now when before it was one of the most coveted

Someone needs to pass the memo to Photekq

[Photekq]

Yeah I'm staying away for the time being. Too much dodgy ****.

[ANightOnCloudNine]

if it looks the same i'll get the cheaper option tbh even if its "fake"

[romevi]

if it looks the same i'll get the cheaper option tbh even if its "fake"

 

[noisyturtle]

I'd beware on Ruby Red Topre /MX cc's as there are more in circulation then there were made.

How do you know how many were made?

Was one of the rarest ccs ever made when I joined and people talked about how there was under 5. Just recently I've heard of them being traded around very frequently some people having multiples.

They can back last clackvent and I would safely assume more will appear this clackvent? but again that's speculation same with you noting how many there were originally just speculation

I heard they were non-cv marked, but at this point some people have acquired multiple of ruby reds it seems and have been trading them at quite low value compared to what most trans clacks go for, it is speculation but it does seem odd how many are out there now when before it was one of the most coveted

A few people won a Ruby Red last CV, they all were marked with the CV gold dots. I believe 4 people, so yes there are more RR's then there were.

[meiosis]

I'd beware on Ruby Red Topre /MX cc's as there are more in circulation then there were made.

How do you know how many were made?

Was one of the rarest ccs ever made when I joined and people talked about how there was under 5. Just recently I've heard of them being traded around very frequently some people having multiples.

They can back last clackvent and I would safely assume more will appear this clackvent? but again that's speculation same with you noting how many there were originally just speculation

I heard they were non-cv marked, but at this point some people have acquired multiple of ruby reds it seems and have been trading them at quite low value compared to what most trans clacks go for, it is speculation but it does seem odd how many are out there now when before it was one of the most coveted

A few people won a Ruby Red last CV, they all were marked with the CV gold dots. I believe 4 people, so yes there are more RR's then there were.

These don't have the marking, they are being traded off as original CC's and I know of two cases where the person offering them has traded over three, it's all speculation but I don't recall them ever being as common to obtain 3 and then trade them at half or a third value.

[noisyturtle]

I'd beware on Ruby Red Topre /MX cc's as there are more in circulation then there were made.

How do you know how many were made?

Was one of the rarest ccs ever made when I joined and people talked about how there was under 5. Just recently I've heard of them being traded around very frequently some people having multiples.

They can back last clackvent and I would safely assume more will appear this clackvent? but again that's speculation same with you noting how many there were originally just speculation

I heard they were non-cv marked, but at this point some people have acquired multiple of ruby reds it seems and have been trading them at quite low value compared to what most trans clacks go for, it is speculation but it does seem odd how many are out there now when before it was one of the most coveted

A few people won a Ruby Red last CV, they all were marked with the CV gold dots. I believe 4 people, so yes there are more RR's then there were.

These don't have the marking, they are being traded off as original CC's and I know of two cases where the person offering them has traded over three, it's all speculation but I don't recall them ever being as common to obtain 3 and then trade them at half or a third value.

I'm sure more OG Ruby Reds exist then we know of, but most of them are probably buried in closets of old members who don't come around any more. I have seen cases of some rarer colorways appearing around the same time (there was a Topre Glass Green I'd never seen, then there were two more found shortly after)

There must be a plastic test to see if they are original Clacks. Like making a mark on the underside with acetone and see if it discolors (which according to Rippy, it won't)
With counterfeiters getting bolder there needs to be a clear way to test OG'ness.

[sncbraxsc2]

Was a fool and hastily purchased a cap that looked like an OG tri but is almost certainly a fake. It will be a week or two before it arrives from the UK and I'll take some pictures at that time but just wanted to let you know in case more pop up. Lightning pointed out the embarrassingly obvious signs that I overlooked:

The inconsistencies in the teeth and bleeding on the sides. I think the eyes look quite a bit more shallow and glossy


My first thought was to check for the FXE on the underside and it looks like there is one there but looking more closely at the stem, it seems there are some irregularities there as well.


Thankfully, it wasn't expensive. The small price lead me to not investigate the authenticity of the cap more thoroughly and quickly make an offer before others got the chance. Hopefully, its just an old fake resurfacing and not indicative of more to come.

[lightsout714]

Was a fool and hastily purchased a cap that looked like an OG tri but is almost certainly a fake. It will be a week or two before it arrives from the UK and I'll take some pictures at that time but just wanted to let you know in case more pop up. Lightning pointed out the embarrassingly obvious signs that I overlooked:

The inconsistencies in the teeth and bleeding on the sides. I think the eyes look quite a bit more shallow and glossy

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My first thought was to check for the FXE on the underside and it looks like there is one there but looking more closely at the stem, it seems there are some irregularities there as well.

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Thankfully, it wasn't expensive. The small price lead me to not investigate the authenticity of the cap more thoroughly and quickly make an offer before others got the chance. Hopefully, its just an old fake resurfacing and not indicative of more to come.

Bring on the fake clacks! Seems like a lot of work to make these, is there still a market? Or are these just oldies floating around?

[Signature]

Was a fool and hastily purchased a cap that looked like an OG tri but is almost certainly a fake. It will be a week or two before it arrives from the UK and I'll take some pictures at that time but just wanted to let you know in case more pop up. Lightning pointed out the embarrassingly obvious signs that I overlooked:

The inconsistencies in the teeth and bleeding on the sides. I think the eyes look quite a bit more shallow and glossy

Show Image

My first thought was to check for the FXE on the underside and it looks like there is one there but looking more closely at the stem, it seems there are some irregularities there as well.

Show Image

Thankfully, it wasn't expensive. The small price lead me to not investigate the authenticity of the cap more thoroughly and quickly make an offer before others got the chance. Hopefully, its just an old fake resurfacing and not indicative of more to come.

Bring on the fake clacks! Seems like a lot of work to make these, is there still a market? Or are these just oldies floating around?

Def still a market mainly for MX clacks. Haven´t seen a fake in a bit tho 

[sncbraxsc2]

I can only imagine how hard it is to get the details just right. The skull seems like a simple design and it generally is but there are a lot of subtle qualities I'm still learning of, obviously. This was one the previous owner had purchased on ebay for 15 USD. She also added "wrong fit leading to sale" after the fact  so what should I do after I take better pictures of it? Burn it?

[Signature]

I can only imagine how hard it is to get the details just right. The skull seems like a simple design and it generally is but there are a lot of subtle qualities I'm still learning of, obviously. This was one the previous owner had purchased on ebay for 15 USD. She also added "wrong fit leading to sale" after the fact  so what should I do after I take better pictures of it? Burn it?

A clackrifice :O

[Sifo]

u can smell if it's real

[noisyturtle]

I can only imagine how hard it is to get the details just right. The skull seems like a simple design and it generally is but there are a lot of subtle qualities I'm still learning of, obviously. This was one the previous owner had purchased on ebay for 15 USD. She also added "wrong fit leading to sale" after the fact  so what should I do after I take better pictures of it? Burn it?

Eat it, then poop it out on your lawn and take a pic the k3 encased in ****. That's the most it deserves.

[rowdy]

I hadn't realised this has been going on for so long - this thread was created in 2013

[absyrd]

Sorry for the necro, but I have a question after being out of the loop for so long.

How long has cc been gone? At what point would you personally consider a K3kc?

As with all art, knock-offs are bound to happen. Then you add in scarcity due to the artist either changing or dying/disappearing. My favorite art critic has all well-done repros because the real thing is just not obtainable.

How much has K3kc screwed over the long-time cap makers? Bro is still producing, so I can see more of an issue there. In that case, buying any clone from K3kc hurts all the makers.

Where do YOU draw the line?

[iamtootallforthis]

Sorry for the necro, but I have a question after being out of the loop for so long.

How long has cc been gone? At what point would you personally consider a K3kc?

As with all art, knock-offs are bound to happen. Then you add in scarcity due to the artist either changing or dying/disappearing. My favorite art critic has all well-done repros because the real thing is just not obtainable.

How much has K3kc screwed over the long-time cap makers? Bro is still producing, so I can see more of an issue there. In that case, buying any clone from K3kc hurts all the makers.

Where do YOU draw the line?

I wouldn't ever buy a k3. I have no interest in buying fakes and I've come to terms that some things just aren't accessible.

[Dongulator]

frankly, I will never seek out k3kc skullz the line was drawn with the first fake artisan. As far as the other questions, I have no idea but it's been too long.

[absyrd]

Sorry for the necro, but I have a question after being out of the loop for so long.

How long has cc been gone? At what point would you personally consider a K3kc?

As with all art, knock-offs are bound to happen. Then you add in scarcity due to the artist either changing or dying/disappearing. My favorite art critic has all well-done repros because the real thing is just not obtainable.

How much has K3kc screwed over the long-time cap makers? Bro is still producing, so I can see more of an issue there. In that case, buying any clone from K3kc hurts all the makers.

Where do YOU draw the line?

I wouldn't ever buy a k3. I have no interest in buying fakes and I've come to terms that some things just aren't accessible.

Devil’s advocate: You love Van Gogh. You want Starry Night. Do you buy a poster?

[iamtootallforthis]

Sorry for the necro, but I have a question after being out of the loop for so long.

How long has cc been gone? At what point would you personally consider a K3kc?

As with all art, knock-offs are bound to happen. Then you add in scarcity due to the artist either changing or dying/disappearing. My favorite art critic has all well-done repros because the real thing is just not obtainable.

How much has K3kc screwed over the long-time cap makers? Bro is still producing, so I can see more of an issue there. In that case, buying any clone from K3kc hurts all the makers.

Where do YOU draw the line?

I wouldn't ever buy a k3. I have no interest in buying fakes and I've come to terms that some things just aren't accessible.

Devil’s advocate: You love Van Gogh. You want Starry Night. Do you buy a poster?

That example feels a little different considering the guy has been long dead.

Better example: would I buy a banksy or other modern living artist print that's been duped?

No.

[hwood34]

Sorry for the necro, but I have a question after being out of the loop for so long.

How long has cc been gone? At what point would you personally consider a K3kc?

As with all art, knock-offs are bound to happen. Then you add in scarcity due to the artist either changing or dying/disappearing. My favorite art critic has all well-done repros because the real thing is just not obtainable.

How much has K3kc screwed over the long-time cap makers? Bro is still producing, so I can see more of an issue there. In that case, buying any clone from K3kc hurts all the makers.

Where do YOU draw the line?

I wouldn't ever buy a k3. I have no interest in buying fakes and I've come to terms that some things just aren't accessible.

Devil’s advocate: You love Van Gogh. You want Starry Night. Do you buy a poster?

poster =/= counterfeit painting

[noisyturtle]

It's not at all like either of those examples. It's like wanting a pair of Jordan's but instead getting fake one's for the same price made by some kid in an apartment in Shanghai.

Artists sell prints, that is a known thing people who cannot afford an original have the option to get one. I have a few KAWs prints, they still cost a lot of money (hundreds vs hundreds of thousands) but they are accepted and respectable displays by both the artist and community.

[Dongulator]

Question while this thread is semi-active... Has anyone spotted a fake clack that wasn't k3kc? I fear there are fakes with [cc] or [cf] or whatever the other branding is maybe [Freedom] on the birds

[iamtootallforthis]

Question while this thread is semi-active... Has anyone spotted a fake clack that wasn't k3kc? I fear there are fakes with [cc] or [cf] or whatever the other branding is maybe [Freedom] on the birds

Yes there are fakes other than k3kc with the original clack branding

[yicaoyimu]

Question while this thread is semi-active... Has anyone spotted a fake clack that wasn't k3kc? I fear there are fakes with [cc] or [cf] or whatever the other branding is maybe [Freedom] on the birds

I have never seen one in person but there are a ton of fake cc circling around. It's impossible to grow cc collection now. Can't buy or trade for any cc unless you know exactly how it ends up from clack factory to the seller. Those fakes have totally ruined it.

[LightningXI]

Sorry for the necro, but I have a question after being out of the loop for so long.

How long has cc been gone? At what point would you personally consider a K3kc?

As with all art, knock-offs are bound to happen. Then you add in scarcity due to the artist either changing or dying/disappearing. My favorite art critic has all well-done repros because the real thing is just not obtainable.

How much has K3kc screwed over the long-time cap makers? Bro is still producing, so I can see more of an issue there. In that case, buying any clone from K3kc hurts all the makers.

Where do YOU draw the line?

CC has been gone since the midst of Clack Happens in Feb 2019 with the ketchup poem contest.
Came back with Clack Factory to make a single post on April Fools' 2020.

I would never, ever support K3KC. It's hurtful to the original maker. It's hurtful to collectors. Do not support counterfeits.

Question while this thread is semi-active... Has anyone spotted a fake clack that wasn't k3kc? I fear there are fakes with [cc] or [cf] or whatever the other branding is maybe [Freedom] on the birds

I have not held one in hand myself but have heard of CF-branded fakes. These definitely do exist.

[Dongulator]

Question while this thread is semi-active... Has anyone spotted a fake clack that wasn't k3kc? I fear there are fakes with [cc] or [cf] or whatever the other branding is maybe [Freedom] on the birds

Yes there are fakes other than k3kc with the original clack branding

Good to know, sounds like if I ever end up getting someone to sell one they will have to be from geekhack with an older/known account.. wish me luck 

[hwood34]

Question while this thread is semi-active... Has anyone spotted a fake clack that wasn't k3kc? I fear there are fakes with [cc] or [cf] or whatever the other branding is maybe [Freedom] on the birds

Yes there are fakes other than k3kc with the original clack branding

I'm sure a lot of those are from k3 was making straight fakes

[iamtootallforthis]

Question while this thread is semi-active... Has anyone spotted a fake clack that wasn't k3kc? I fear there are fakes with [cc] or [cf] or whatever the other branding is maybe [Freedom] on the birds

Yes there are fakes other than k3kc with the original clack branding

I'm sure a lot of those are from k3 was making straight fakes

Probably those too

[absyrd]

I was just trying to catch up on where people stood. Thank you for keeping it civil.

Speaking of banksy, I had 4 signed and 3 unsigned prints from POW. I still bought a fake GWB on canvas to have it look like the balloon was floating up my staircase. It was the unobtainable image at the time.

EDIT: So I gather the update is that people won’t buy replicas, still hold out hope cc comes back, and that I make bad analogies.

[absyrd]

Question while this thread is semi-active... Has anyone spotted a fake clack that wasn't k3kc? I fear there are fakes with [cc] or [cf] or whatever the other branding is maybe [Freedom] on the birds

I have never seen one in person but there are a ton of fake cc circling around. It's impossible to grow cc collection now. Can't buy or trade for any cc unless you know exactly how it ends up from clack factory to the seller. Those fakes have totally ruined it.

Crazy that you need provenance nowadays. Great point. Sorry you can’t get what you want.

I would never, ever support K3KC. It's hurtful to the original maker. It's hurtful to collectors. Do not support counterfeits.

Respect.

It's not at all like either of those examples. It's like wanting a pair of Jordan's but instead getting fake one's for the same price made by some kid in an apartment in Shanghai.

Artists sell prints, that is a known thing people who cannot afford an original have the option to get one. I have a few KAWs prints, they still cost a lot of money (hundreds vs hundreds of thousands) but they are accepted and respectable displays by both the artist and community.

What KAWS stuff do you have? I never got into him. Talk about tons of fakes.

I wouldn't ever buy a k3. I have no interest in buying fakes and I've come to terms that some things just aren't accessible.

Everything is accessible to a giraffe.

I'm sure a lot of those are from k3 was making straight fakes

Also helpful info. I'm trying to get back into this hobby, and I guess I'll stick to seeking out familiar members to buy things from and make trades with.


Sorry for all the editing. Was trying to reply on my tiny phone while having a midnight snack.

[naasfu]

k3 caps are pretty off from what i've seen. the colors and textures don't look right at all. so probably no worries unless you really have no clue.

there are a lot of fakes from the last couple of years. the ones i've seen are single colors (including translucents), drunken, and candy corn. i would avoid all of those. even reputable people have unknowingly picked them up, so don't just go by the previous owner. you need to know the full ownership history or find someone who had the clacks from a long time ago.

i've heard of other fufu like OG tri and OG night owl, but i don't remember seeing photos of them so i don't know how good or bad they are.

i'm guessing the recent shiny eyed skulls and any with the 3 dots should probably be ok.

nowadays, people are throwing stupid amounts of money at people with throwaway accounts, and not doing much research either. it's pretty dumb.

[absyrd]

Great update, naas. Exactly what I needed moving forward.

[Sifo]

don't think i'd ever knowingly buy a fake but if it wasn't blatant and I already paid an ergreious amount of money for it, I wouldn't be in a hurry to get rid of it, i suppose, since that'd require me to either lie about it or take a huge loss.