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Title: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Project on Pause
Post by: dandruff on Thu, 22 April 2021, 03:28:38
Quick disclaimer: This set is definitely going to be a drastically different approach from my other sets as it will likely sit in IC for a LONG time if everything does not go smoothly. With how KAT sets kit and how much I have to refine the files, this will likely take a back seat as it gains more traction/eyes/feedback. I am genuinely using this as an "interest check" rather than immediately planning how to get this into GB stage. I want to see the interest of the concept before moving further!

(https://i.imgur.com/G8NCj1O.png)

Are you tired of the Eastern-influenced keycap sets? Tired of weebs and koreaboos?
 Well, I am too! But you know what they say... if you can't beat them... Join them!

If interested... I really need IC feedback in forms for this one

I present to you a set that relies on what they both need in their lives: Subtitles!
To be specific...

KAT Subtitles

(https://i.imgur.com/TPxhd56.jpg)

Kits
More
[Weeaboo]
(https://i.imgur.com/fwH0a9C.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/3Yxlw4V.jpg)

[Koreaboo]
(https://i.imgur.com/bRbhcCm.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/Vg8QnnT.jpg)
need to resize some characters

[Icon Mods]
(https://i.imgur.com/I8lTuD9.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/j5ncGCV.jpg)

[Icon Mods with Subs]
(https://i.imgur.com/HiXfV7n.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/HFQOnFS.jpg)
a bit too cluttered, will revamp

[Accents]
(https://i.imgur.com/snRY45K.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/elEupke.jpg)

[Spacebars]
(https://i.imgur.com/ZJl9f9M.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/bikAcaF.jpg)

[Numpad]
(https://i.imgur.com/kpeRWej.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/5VBa3ry.jpg)

[ISO]
(https://i.imgur.com/TrJwAL2.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/xRiz2Dv.jpg)

Because it is KAT... THERE WILL BE MORE KITS... 40s... ISO... other weird layouts... lmk what you want in IC form
Will 100% add:
[Icon + Subs Mod]
[40s/Ortho]
[UK-ISO]
[ISO w/ subs]
[Numpad w/ subs]
[Accents w/ subs]
...



Renders
Most Variants
More
Hiragana for Icon + Subs // Hangul for Icon
(https://i.imgur.com/xIUPWv7.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/jl90erw.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bWE4tN8.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/L9VlHM4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nLshqdx.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/1Mx3gVG.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MRYSKiF.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/mYAEHn7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/velvBhZ.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/XYYObFb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YkvqoBH.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/dOYrxoI.jpg)
[Rendered on Fuji65 by CMM.Studio Mellperbia and Rifen]


Other Renders
More
(https://i.imgur.com/2kGNENr.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/7H0tIef.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wOs7NME.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/xbKnyqb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IQZh29s.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/o7Zw67s.jpg)
[Rendered on HAUS by Hand Engineering]

(https://i.imgur.com/OpES2o6.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/Zf8bA3m.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LlWrecb.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/GplCCmu.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/H4gOq6C.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/9w4yaIa.jpg)
[Rendered on Dalco959 Mini by DALExSNAIL]

(https://i.imgur.com/1H43GGn.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/hqIdiJm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nRh2E42.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/nRh2E42.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eXZr3Zm.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/uCVyC76.jpg)
[Rendered on Phoenix TKL by CableCarDesigns]

(https://i.imgur.com/dBrKUbT.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/CR3fFSn.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GYJ7GTm.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/ray4WDW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xyOSCZh.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/1jT2FZX.jpg)
[Rendered on Nemui by Bachoo]


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[INTEREST CHECK FORM] (https://forms.gle/ZZ2iCVskp5Qk9AXH6)

okay... on the real though, I need to see if people are actually interested in this, so IC form is going to be a tad longer than usual...



What's next?
[Make sure GMK Stargaze successfully reaches GB first]
[Not fall behind in academics]
[KITTING WILL NEED A HUGE UPDATE]
[Debate on if I'll even add metal cap/novelties/deskmats/collaborations]

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: dandruff on Thu, 22 April 2021, 03:29:06
Reserved
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: OtherAndrew on Thu, 22 April 2021, 03:30:22
how can i enjoy the subtitles if they aren't bright yellow

jkjk cool set
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: themasterphi on Thu, 22 April 2021, 03:36:33
Nice, this is an interesting take on WoB. Looks good.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: HospitalityKB on Thu, 22 April 2021, 03:43:45
Damn, bro, that's mad cute... <3
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: emerrin on Thu, 22 April 2021, 03:47:48
I like the idea! What about text mods though? Are those possible?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: YMwoo on Thu, 22 April 2021, 04:00:04
very unique idea. interested in it!
Just hoping Keyrative will sort out their problems soon.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: Allkchi on Thu, 22 April 2021, 04:16:44
Damn it, Dandruff. My girl is gonna leave me because I'm buying all your stuff
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: Izeri on Thu, 22 April 2021, 04:22:00
Yes.
Not a fan of full icon mods tho
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: kinyth on Thu, 22 April 2021, 04:29:45
nice work, good luck on ic!
Title: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: dandruff on Thu, 22 April 2021, 05:43:24
I like the idea! What about text mods though? Are those possible?

Yes.
Not a fan of full icon mods tho

Just to address this before I get off for the night. When I originally thought of the idea, I was actually going to go with full text mods and follow the same plan of "Enter" in Hiragana/Hangul followed by "[Enter]" on the bottom right of the key; however...
1. I am beyond uncultured and will 100% rely on google translate. That will likely not translate right on keys like Shift, Tab, CapsLock, etc.
2. Even on Hiragana/Hangul layouts, they use text mods like "Esc, Tab, Shift, CapsLock, Ctrl, etc." as well, so it felt like I was going "too far"?
3. If I introduce more alphas kits (which 99% will happen), Icon Mods just keeps it easier for kitting (or else we'd be going with 50 Alpha kits and 50 mod kits).
4. Latin Text is an option, but it just feels out of place (imo)
5. Iím a simp for icon mods
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: RoyalOak88 on Thu, 22 April 2021, 06:14:44
Maybe Icon with text as legend like the rest of the kit?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: Ashen_21 on Thu, 22 April 2021, 06:22:59
Such a neat idea! Definitely in!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: Onixio on Thu, 22 April 2021, 07:03:27
Form send!
I cross my fingers to see a FR-iso kit
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: Tiff0 on Thu, 22 April 2021, 09:02:14
This is a very clever idea, and I would be all in! Also love icon mods so no complaints there.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: saltimate on Thu, 22 April 2021, 09:22:49
damn i was sure this said subtitties

nice set btw
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: HelloThisIsDog on Thu, 22 April 2021, 09:38:34
Love this idea and love the icon mods look. Oh and as a native speaker of an Asian language I can confirm Enter, Shift, Caps, etc. do not exist in my language. We just call it the English word, so someone here who knows Japanese and Korean could confirm whether thatís the case as well.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: summerqm on Thu, 22 April 2021, 09:50:23
Maybe Icon with text as legend like the rest of the kit?

Second this!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: kidviddy on Thu, 22 April 2021, 10:09:05
I actually love this!  If there is support for JIS, I'd definitely be in.  JIS support would actually be quite a lot easier than usual since you don't have symbols on the numeral keys.  I threw together a first pass at what such a kit might look like here (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/d981ccf2b79c963bc9618f0b16308f9f); happy to talk through it further here, via DM, or on Discord (kidviddy, I just joined your server).
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: gleneston on Thu, 22 April 2021, 10:11:28
I love this, but the brackets on every sub legend is too much for my brain.


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Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: dandruff on Thu, 22 April 2021, 15:16:03
damn i was sure this said subtitties

nice set btw

You're on the wrong site! You need to head over to GMK Incognito!

I actually love this!  If there is support for JIS, I'd definitely be in.  JIS support would actually be quite a lot easier than usual since you don't have symbols on the numeral keys.  I threw together a first pass at what such a kit might look like here (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/d981ccf2b79c963bc9618f0b16308f9f); happy to talk through it further here, via DM, or on Discord (kidviddy, I just joined your server).

Will reach out! When I have some more time to work on kitting and all...

Maybe Icon with text as legend like the rest of the kit?

Something like this?
(https://i.imgur.com/fDCwNLj.jpg)
I'm down lol. May need to shrink some text for ctrl/alt/super/menu and stuff for it to fit, but I'll just make it consistent.

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: paperassgasket on Thu, 22 April 2021, 15:25:45
congratulations on making me regret buying 4 sets of KAT refined.

I'm not even a weeb but I think this SLAPS.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: RoyalOak88 on Thu, 22 April 2021, 15:57:11
Maybe Icon with text as legend like the rest of the kit?

Something like this?
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/fDCwNLj.jpg)

I'm down lol. May need to shrink some text for ctrl/alt/super/menu and stuff for it to fit, but I'll just make it consistent.

Yep!
I think it would look great after some refinement.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: kidpid on Thu, 22 April 2021, 16:00:40
Maybe Icon with text as legend like the rest of the kit?

Something like this?
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/fDCwNLj.jpg)

I'm down lol. May need to shrink some text for ctrl/alt/super/menu and stuff for it to fit, but I'll just make it consistent.

That looks great!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: kight on Thu, 22 April 2021, 16:29:48
Something like this?
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/fDCwNLj.jpg)

I'm down lol. May need to shrink some text for ctrl/alt/super/menu and stuff for it to fit, but I'll just make it consistent.

Yesss these mods please!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: CookieFlow on Thu, 22 April 2021, 17:16:22
damn i was sure this said subtitties

nice set btw

You're on the wrong site! You need to head over to GMK Incognito!

I actually love this!  If there is support for JIS, I'd definitely be in.  JIS support would actually be quite a lot easier than usual since you don't have symbols on the numeral keys.  I threw together a first pass at what such a kit might look like here (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/d981ccf2b79c963bc9618f0b16308f9f); happy to talk through it further here, via DM, or on Discord (kidviddy, I just joined your server).

Will reach out! When I have some more time to work on kitting and all...

Maybe Icon with text as legend like the rest of the kit?

Something like this?
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/fDCwNLj.jpg)

I'm down lol. May need to shrink some text for ctrl/alt/super/menu and stuff for it to fit, but I'll just make it consistent.


Those mods are awesome !  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: Donosir on Thu, 22 April 2021, 19:05:30
I would like a English only set of this. So basically just regular English legends inside a bracket.
Hope that this doesn't completely defeat the point of the set. I just feel like it is a good opportunity for a creative English alphas set.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: smackyp on Thu, 22 April 2021, 22:31:22
Something like this?
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/fDCwNLj.jpg)

I'm down lol. May need to shrink some text for ctrl/alt/super/menu and stuff for it to fit, but I'll just make it consistent.

Holy crap. That's awesome. I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: gnldud on Thu, 22 April 2021, 23:42:11
BRUH YES.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: Vegas_ on Thu, 22 April 2021, 23:58:30
Maybe Icon with text as legend like the rest of the kit?

Something like this?
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/fDCwNLj.jpg)

I'm down lol. May need to shrink some text for ctrl/alt/super/menu and stuff for it to fit, but I'll just make it consistent.

these mods make the set!

love this concept, GLWIC :D
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: ggggggg on Fri, 23 April 2021, 04:25:23
I love this, but the brackets on every sub legend is too much for my brain.


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Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: slddays on Fri, 23 April 2021, 04:36:31
Love this idea and love the icon mods look. Oh and as a native speaker of an Asian language I can confirm Enter, Shift, Caps, etc. do not exist in my language. We just call it the English word, so someone here who knows Japanese and Korean could confirm whether thatís the case as well.
am korean and can confirm, we say them in english
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: gleneston on Fri, 23 April 2021, 07:57:44
I love this, but the brackets on every sub legend is too much for my brain.


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How dare you


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Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: lush_bunny on Fri, 23 April 2021, 15:41:57
Very interesting and Big Brain, GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: JQ27 on Fri, 23 April 2021, 16:53:03
Super in if there was a bit more compatibility for different ISO users (UK/NorDe etc)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: dandruff on Fri, 23 April 2021, 20:05:20
Super in if there was a bit more compatibility for different ISO users (UK/NorDe etc)

There will 100% be more compatibility. With something so "different," I wanted to see if it would get positive feedback first and actually using it to collect interest checks instead of grabbing vendors first and skipping that part.

I added to the IC kits that will 100% be added (UK/new mods/40s/orthos)
I'm 90% sure Norde will also be added regardless of demand just because it's a staple.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: RoyalOak88 on Sat, 24 April 2021, 10:36:18
I'm also hoping for International South compatibility (Portuguese/Spanish), since it's KAT.
Crossing my fingers  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: saltimate on Sat, 24 April 2021, 18:08:16
novelties pls
[cries in weeb]
[laughs in japanese]
or [cries], [laughs], [in weeb], [in aisian], [in japanese]
etc
sh!t like that
thanks

also if you do novelties, dont be weak and put all the good stuff on rows 40s dont use like every other damn gb
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: dandruff on Sat, 24 April 2021, 20:39:08
Added:
-New Mods w/ Subs
-renders for the new mods (on Nemui)
-F13 (woops)
-Fixed Delete icon-ish

I may have to change the font size for the subs OR change the original icon mods to make the two kits more consistent. Sizing/alignment issues due to the amount of space per key!
Update kits that are 100% add (for now), but likely will be more.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: Ustinj on Sat, 24 April 2021, 21:23:27
intriguing set to say!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: Kawamashi on Sun, 25 April 2021, 15:14:22
I really like your set. Please add an Ergo kit, and consider the mod keys with subtitles !
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: bananathock on Tue, 27 April 2021, 02:11:41
Please make a deskmat that's just blurred so I can fully enjoy my subtitles.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: Bonsa on Tue, 27 April 2021, 02:50:43
hahahaha I love this
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles
Post by: Senbeii on Wed, 28 April 2021, 01:20:19
really unique take on sublegends. I coom for this
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Added BoW and some kitting changes (4/28)
Post by: dandruff on Wed, 28 April 2021, 02:14:26
4/28 Changes:

Added BoW Variant (ALL kits) due to popular demand
Added ISO kit
Changed kitting
Added renders to show different combination of black and white


Still planning to add more kits...
Kitting for KAT is not fun...
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Added BoW and some kitting changes (4/28)
Post by: RoyalOak88 on Wed, 28 April 2021, 04:59:36
Nice job!
By the way that this is unfolding, can be one of those all in sets  :D
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Added BoW and some kitting changes (4/28)
Post by: jabe8i on Thu, 29 April 2021, 13:19:01
How accurate are these "subs"? Should I be embarrassed if my Japanese cousin sees this on my desk? :p
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Added BoW and some kitting changes (4/28)
Post by: dandruff on Thu, 29 April 2021, 16:48:14
Nice job!
By the way that this is unfolding, can be one of those all in sets  :D

I kitted to not combine kits to make an all-in-one set :(

I mean it's possible and won't exactly do anything to me... but I like seeing combinations of people mixing what alphas with what mods

How accurate are these "subs"? Should I be embarrassed if my Japanese cousin sees this on my desk? :p

Uhhh... I think you should be embarrassed no matter what if you're a weeb... /s
But it's just hiragana sooo yeah!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Added BoW and some kitting changes (4/28)
Post by: Woovie on Thu, 29 April 2021, 16:57:55
I went to fill out the IC to express that I dislike this set and I'm not sure you could do anything to fix it so that I'd like it. Only option is "yes" for buy. So here's my interest check: no
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Added BoW and some kitting changes (4/28)
Post by: dandruff on Thu, 29 April 2021, 17:51:24
I went to fill out the IC to express that I dislike this set and I'm not sure you could do anything to fix it so that I'd like it. Only option is "yes" for buy. So here's my interest check: no

Idk many people who fill out an IC form who aren't interested (since I'm looking for feedback from people who are interested as they're the ones who care).
I added that question with an actual yes/no in previous IC's and it's a pretty pointless question to add, so I just put it here this time for fun.

but to respond to your statement... uhhh okay.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Added BoW and some kitting changes (4/28)
Post by: RoyalOak88 on Thu, 29 April 2021, 18:03:36
Nice job!
By the way that this is unfolding, can be one of those all in sets  :D

I kitted to not combine kits to make an all-in-one set :(

I mean it's possible and won't exactly do anything to me... but I like seeing combinations of people mixing what alphas with what mods


When I said all in I meant buy all sets   :)
Now I just need that International South support kit haha
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Added BoW and some kitting changes (4/28)
Post by: Friendship on Fri, 30 April 2021, 18:33:02
I went to fill out the IC to express that I dislike this set and I'm not sure you could do anything to fix it so that I'd like it. Only option is "yes" for buy. So here's my interest check: no

can this be a new copypasta
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Added BoW and some kitting changes (4/28)
Post by: SDKCAMPING on Fri, 30 April 2021, 21:08:58
I went to fill out the IC to express that I dislike this set and I'm not sure you could do anything to fix it so that I'd like it. Only option is "yes" for buy. So here's my interest check: no

I'm not a fan either but I'd rather just not spend time of my day expressing it? And if I did, I'd probably be more constructive? For me I thought it was okay at first but seeing it on renders was way too jumbled and a mess, maybe you can contribute and help it improved??
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Added BoW and some kitting changes (4/28)
Post by: dandruff on Sat, 01 May 2021, 02:33:58
I went to fill out the IC to express that I dislike this set and I'm not sure you could do anything to fix it so that I'd like it. Only option is "yes" for buy. So here's my interest check: no

can this be a new copypasta

Yes, but not my thread  :p

I went to fill out the IC to express that I dislike this set and I'm not sure you could do anything to fix it so that I'd like it. Only option is "yes" for buy. So here's my interest check: no

I'm not a fan either but I'd rather just not spend time of my day expressing it? And if I did, I'd probably be more constructive? For me I thought it was okay at first but seeing it on renders was way too jumbled and a mess, maybe you can contribute and help it improved??

Yeah, I feel like this set isn't for everyone. The con is that it's crowded, but the pro is that it's crowded. This was a very "different" thing for me, and I knew some would straight-up hate it, and some would like it. I just wanted to do something that was outside of just color changes. Genuinely unsure how I would find a "medium," so at the moment, I'm committing to the crowded appeal.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Added BoW and some kitting changes (4/28)
Post by: Mr Chrome on Sat, 01 May 2021, 13:55:26
Oo, this is a cool set! Have you tried moving the icons in the Icon + Subs mods to the up-left corner to reduce clutter? You could probably rescale them to be smaller as well.

Also, do you know what white you plan on using? If it's the same as KAT Alpha, I could really use a spacebar kit with a 6u...
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Added BoW and some kitting changes (4/28)
Post by: lluvia on Sun, 02 May 2021, 00:35:56
Thank you for finally using foreign languages as design, not a gimmick, and in a tasteful way that doesn't offend those who belong in the culture.

I, without sarcasm, truly wish you optimize on this opportunity and make a katakana version available too.
(Trivia? Back in the day, certain brands used used Katakana instead of Hiragana for the sublegends as well, so it doesn't make Katakana any less viable than Hiragana.)

The one thing I find a bit weird is that you chose to have subs with icon modifiers.
I think it's because I'm not used to seeing the modifiers have that much on them.
It might be interesting if you went old school and used non-Katakana like 改行 for Enter, 空白 for Space, so that the subs would be more fitting, though not all modifiers can be given that treatment (without a native being creative, like the Shift or Ctrl key). So like 改行 [Enter] or "enter icon" [改行] or... "enter icon" [エンター].

Meme? novelty idea would be "Subs not Dubs" lol


Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Added BoW and some kitting changes (4/28)
Post by: dandruff on Sun, 02 May 2021, 04:59:02
Oo, this is a cool set! Have you tried moving the icons in the Icon + Subs mods to the up-left corner to reduce clutter? You could probably rescale them to be smaller as well.

Also, do you know what white you plan on using? If it's the same as KAT Alpha, I could really use a spacebar kit with a 6u...

Yep, I will be resizing and moving the icon+subs around and also reorganizing it to make it consistent across all keys. This was just  quick mock-up to see if the community actually wanted the addition of icon + subs (due to it not being there in the original post).

As for white, I am 60% sure I'm aiming for something close to WS1.

Thank you for finally using foreign languages as design, not a gimmick, and in a tasteful way that doesn't offend those who belong in the culture.

I, without sarcasm, truly wish you optimize on this opportunity and make a katakana version available too.
(Trivia? Back in the day, certain brands used used Katakana instead of Hiragana for the sublegends as well, so it doesn't make Katakana any less viable than Hiragana.)

The one thing I find a bit weird is that you chose to have subs with icon modifiers.
I think it's because I'm not used to seeing the modifiers have that much on them.
It might be interesting if you went old school and used non-Katakana like 改行 for Enter, 空白 for Space, so that the subs would be more fitting, though not all modifiers can be given that treatment (without a native being creative, like the Shift or Ctrl key). So like 改行 [Enter] or "enter icon" [改行] or... "enter icon" [エンター].

Meme? novelty idea would be "Subs not Dubs" lol


Hey! Thanks for the kind words and feedback! Regarding making it less cluttered, you are 100% right and it is going to be the approach I will be taking for the icon + subs mods.
My reason to not add non-latin symbols on the mods is due to me researching different layouts on keyboards and a majority of them from different cultures still prefer to use latin words such as shift/esc/enter/ctrl/etc. Due to this, I didn't want to (1) possibly offend the culture and add something that is not a real thing and (2) adding that would require that same kit for all of the other alphas (one for hangul, one for hiragana, and (if added) one for katakana).
As for Katakana, I added it on the IC form to see demand or interest, at least for now, there's no definite answers, but since it is in the IC form as an option, it is one of the ones that I am heavily considering.



This set is definitely going to be a drastically different approach from my other sets as it will likely sit in IC for a LONG time if everything does not go smoothly. With how KAT sets kit and how much I have to refine the file and such, this will likely take a back seat as it slowly gains more traction/eyes/feedback. I am genuinely using this as an "interest check" rather than immediately planning how to get this into GB stage. It is possible that it gets smoothly to GB earlier rather than later; however, I predict plenty of obstacles/roadblocks ahead, so I would not be surprised if there is possibly another set in the works while I'm stumped for this one.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Added BoW and some kitting changes (4/28)
Post by: Mr Chrome on Tue, 04 May 2021, 00:10:51
As for white, I am 60% sure I'm aiming for something close to WS1.

I do like the warmer white of WS1... from what Iíve seen of color matching, the stock KAT white is pretty close.

I think the NP PBT keycaps do the Icon+Text mods quite well with their Katakana legends? Has a lot going on, but still looks clean.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1473/3902/products/7_a39af344-8ed6-425a-bfd3-76da1d0be59b_large.jpg?v=1586748791)

Looking forward to any updates!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Added BoW and some kitting changes (4/28)
Post by: jabe8i on Tue, 04 May 2021, 01:37:11
I'm not an expert in the dyesubbing process, but will the thin lines of the "subs" give issues?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Added BoW and some kitting changes (4/28)
Post by: badtyping on Wed, 05 May 2021, 22:23:18
I love the idea of this set. It's a fun play on what we've all seen in the community with sub-legends. Like others have said it seems a bit too crowded, but maybe a change in color for the subs to be in yellow? Also instead of each letter having a [ ], maybe for each alpha row the first letter will start with an open bracket [, and the last letter will have a closed bracket]. Kinda like [QWERTYUIOP] ? Just a suggestion, but all in all, I love the direction!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Added BoW and some kitting changes (4/28)
Post by: Sirhcel on Wed, 12 May 2021, 04:30:47
Nice and fun take on the weeb meta. Super keen.

So here's my interest check: Yes
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Added BoW and some kitting changes (4/28)
Post by: yui on Wed, 12 May 2021, 04:49:59
reading the name i was expecting a set with white pixel font on black boxes, but then my experience with subtitles was learning english from films and TV, not animes, so the tech has likely evolved by now :).
and one thing i feel is missing is completely wrong subs, at least back then it was pretty common to have the subs says something almost completely unrelated to what the audio was saying, i feel that could be pretty funny to have as well (i dunno maybe a ctrl key with a shift subtitle or something like that :))
although i may be a bit late to suggest anything.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Added BoW and some kitting changes (4/28)
Post by: Puncus on Thu, 13 May 2021, 14:18:42
Looks very interesting, even if im not too sure if mixing desings in for the mod and nav icons is the way to go I still like it.
GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Added BoW and some kitting changes (4/28)
Post by: LaserCrafter on Mon, 07 June 2021, 21:11:13
would unironically buy the f*ck out of this set
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Added BoW and some kitting changes (4/28)
Post by: clickpig on Mon, 07 June 2021, 21:31:12
that BoW looks so pleasing, excited to see how this one comes out.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Added BoW and some kitting changes (4/28)
Post by: bigoldbox on Mon, 07 June 2021, 21:39:37
that BoW looks so pleasing, excited to see how this one comes out.

Projects on indefinite sleep for now while dandruff works on other projects.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Project on Pause
Post by: dandruff on Mon, 07 June 2021, 21:45:52
that BoW looks so pleasing, excited to see how this one comes out.

Projects on indefinite sleep for now while dandruff works on other projects.

Woops, I did not update GH thread.
So to copy and paste what I put on my discord:

"Due to the demand being much lower than I was hoping, this will VERY LIKELY not be my next set. I wanted to try something new and due to inexperience with making svg files and kitting, the project takes much more excess work and commitment than my other projects. Due to that, I would want the demand to be higher if I were to pursue the set. For now the set will take a back seat and we'll see where it goes!

This does not mean the set will never run, but it also mean that it will. It may go through changes, different manu, different anything, but...

as for now, there will not be any upcoming news on this project"



I will likely pick this project up again if two conditions are met:
1. More interest (won't be locking thread (kinda like letting it marinate)
2. KAT manu gets back on track
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Subtitles - Project on Pause
Post by: Neely_12 on Tue, 08 June 2021, 00:44:43
Keyreative has been slacking, but I hope they can get it together. This is definitely interesting