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[IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - GB Delayed
« on: Sun, 04 April 2021, 20:32:10 »


Hi all,

Welcome to the new IC for the 2nd set I designed with Franco, DCS Alps Pingmaster, this time with renders!

**Please note that the renders are done in Cherry profile, which is quite similar to but not exactly the same as DCS. Nevertheless, they should give you a good idea of how the final set will look like.

If you can't already tell, this set was inspired by the legendary IBM Pingmaster, an Alps keyboard manufactured for the Asian market around 1983 and known for the pinging noise that their Alps SKCC Green switches made while typing. For this set, we referenced the Japanese version of the board, as well as an IBM 5556 Multistation from the same era in order to help fill in the missing legends.





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Specifications

Manufacturer: Signature Plastics
Profile: DCS 1-1-2-3-4-4
Material: PBT
Legends: Dye-sublimated
Colors: SP stock colors
Mount: Alps

**Please note that these caps are for Alps/Matias switches only and are not compatible with MX-style switches.



GB Details

The GB will run from August 1 - September 1.





Kits

Base

Please note that the longer spacebars will be made in ABS due to warping. Front legends will be pad printed.



JIS & macOS

I know this doesn't cover true JIS layouts, but we wanted to focus compatibility on common Alps layouts while also being constrained by the key sizes that SP currently has due to costing. Also includes macOS bottom row swaps.



Spacebars & 40s

Again, the longer bars will be ABS. Includes complete support for hiney's H60 PCB, as well as 3-key 40s support.



Relegendables & Ortho

For those who want that authentic Pingmaster look. This kit is also designed to be able to cover an ortho board. Due to shrinkage, all relegendable keys will be ABS.



Accents





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Acknowledgements

Thank you to Franco, Kingk22, konstantin, and KidViddy.



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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New IC
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 04 April 2021, 20:33:01 »
Changelog:

7/23/21
- Added GB details, including dates, US pricing, and shipping ETA

6/23/21
- Added 2nd 2u spacebar to Relegendables/Ortho kit

6/18/21
- Added a 1.50u key and additional 2.75u key in the Spacebars kit to suppport hiney's H60 PCB
- Added a R3 and two R4 keys to the Relegendables kit for more uniform ortho coverage

6/16/21
- Added updated renders (less green, new legends)

6/1/21
- Replaced Shift icons with Japanese text legends and shifted other legends around to accommodate
- Added 3-key 40s support to Spacebars kit

4/20/21
- Merged Numpad and Extension into Base kit
- Removed Numpad accents and moved all remaining accents into a separate kit. This should help with both Base kit and JIS pricing.
- Moved macOS support into JIS kit. Again, this was done to help Base kit pricing (apologies to the Mac users out there).
- Spacebar kit pricing was actually pretty reasonable, so I added very basic 40s support
- No changes to Relegendables kit
- OS icon has been made less wide, in line with the change to the Shift icon

4/5/21:
-Fixed some inconsistencies in the Numpad kit
-Added 2nd B and 2.00u spacebar in Spacebar kit
« Last Edit: Fri, 23 July 2021, 12:55:24 by Fredington »

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New IC
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 04 April 2021, 20:33:59 »
love this :thumb:

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New IC
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 04 April 2021, 20:34:03 »
I am interested
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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 04 April 2021, 20:39:54 »
Oof. Ok. Let's do this.

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 04 April 2021, 20:40:45 »
ye s

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 04 April 2021, 20:46:32 »
Woo! Glad for an update, wasn't sure what was happening with this set.

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 04 April 2021, 20:48:14 »
Oh baby please yes.

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 04 April 2021, 20:51:36 »
Once again Iím in!

One question though, are the stabilizer inserts going to be Alps or MX? I canít quite recall how SPs Alps molds work.
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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 04 April 2021, 21:16:24 »
looks awesome :thumb:

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 04 April 2021, 21:22:54 »
Yes! Can't wait to get this

Offline Fredington

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 04 April 2021, 21:41:56 »
Once again Iím in!

One question though, are the stabilizer inserts going to be Alps or MX? I canít quite recall how SPs Alps molds work.

SP only have MX stab mounts.

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 04 April 2021, 22:34:02 »
The Shift legends reminds me of a house that i grew up in.


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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 04 April 2021, 22:45:41 »
Please don't leave us again . I'll buy 10 sets!!!

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 04 April 2021, 22:51:07 »
Some alps love! Yes! GLWIC

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 04 April 2021, 22:51:58 »
I am interested.

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 04 April 2021, 23:09:46 »
Yes please.

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 04 April 2021, 23:10:45 »
Oh my Lord. Yes please.
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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 04 April 2021, 23:42:15 »
Shifts CHONK

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 05 April 2021, 08:20:31 »
oh boy here we go! very happy to see this back on the radar! thanks!

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« Reply #21 on: Mon, 05 April 2021, 08:56:36 »
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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 05 April 2021, 11:56:01 »
Going all in with this one. Count me in for multiple sets.

To anyone planning to build Alps in the future, this is a must-buy. Even if you don't end up building, you will have desperate people like me wanting your set.

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 05 April 2021, 12:21:50 »
Small update here:

- Fixed some inconsistencies in the Numpad kit
- Added 2nd B and 2.00u spacebar in Spacebar kit

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 05 April 2021, 15:18:03 »
I really like this.  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 05 April 2021, 21:13:19 »
Yep, still definitely in for this whenever it runs. Please run it. We need more alps sets.

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 06 April 2021, 14:09:26 »
It's a big yes, I'll try to keep an eye on this one  :thumb:

Edit: I just find the shift keys really disgusting and be happy to pay more to get japanese legend

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 06 April 2021, 17:30:49 »
Welp, looks like I'll be buying 4-5 sets

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 06 April 2021, 21:44:00 »
if I could toss my .02 dollars into the ring: I'm getting this set regardless but the shift legends do look like the lil houses you put on properties in monopoly

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 06 April 2021, 21:52:46 »
It's a big yes, I'll try to keep an eye on this one  :thumb:

Edit: I just find the shift keys really disgusting and be happy to pay more to get japanese legend

if I could toss my .02 dollars into the ring: I'm getting this set regardless but the shift legends do look like the lil houses you put on properties in monopoly

They were present on the Chinese Pingmaster:



The Japanese Pingmaster had no legended shift keys, with L. Shift reading "Alphanumeric" and R. Shift reading "Kana"

We decided to go with the icon on the Chinese Pingmaster because that style (text mods w/ icon shift) is consistent with other keyboards of the era, including the IBM 5556 Multistation that we referenced for many of the missing legends:




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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 07 April 2021, 09:05:02 »

We decided to go with the icon on the Chinese Pingmaster because that style (text mods w/ icon shift) is consistent with other keyboards of the era, including the IBM 5556 Multistation that we referenced for many of the missing legends:


I appreciate the attention to historical detail! Very excited for this set and the shifts will likely grow on me the more I look at it!

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 07 April 2021, 09:26:25 »
Man is it great to see this post! I've been eagerly stalking the GH waters for it.

Will purchase a couple of base kits for sure, it's looking sick as hell man.

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« Reply #32 on: Wed, 07 April 2021, 13:32:05 »
Glad to see this is alive. I am completely in!

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« Reply #33 on: Thu, 08 April 2021, 07:32:36 »
Yes, we need more alps sets!  ;D

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« Reply #34 on: Thu, 08 April 2021, 07:51:09 »
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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #35 on: Sat, 10 April 2021, 04:35:52 »
I'm in! Been wanting a nice keycap set for my alps.

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #36 on: Sat, 10 April 2021, 09:10:05 »
So glad to see some Alps love! I am going to grab 2-3 kits for sure. The list for custom Alps keycaps is way to small - this will be a welcome addition to that list. Love the theme for this set as well. Great work!

Edit: I just realized this is PBT as well?!?! This set just jumped up to the No. 1 spot on my "most excited to buy" list!!! Please make this a reality!

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #37 on: Sat, 10 April 2021, 17:19:41 »
Had to dig out my pingmaster and wow this set did a fantastic job capturing the original, consider me interested!

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #38 on: Sun, 11 April 2021, 09:58:33 »
If this goes into GB. I will 100% buy this and jump back into Alps again!

Edit: The shift legends are questionable. Can you change it to JP legends what is also on the original Pingmaster?
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« Reply #39 on: Sun, 11 April 2021, 10:28:37 »
If only it had bae...  :-[

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #40 on: Mon, 12 April 2021, 09:19:12 »
The shift legends are questionable. Can you change it to JP legends what is also on the original Pingmaster?

I already spoke about this: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=112117.msg3034993#msg3034993

One thing I can do is make them less wide for all you sizeists :p out there:



In other news, we have vendors:

US: Vala Supply
CAN: DeskHero
UK: Proto[Typist]
EU: MyKeyboard
AS: zFrontier
OCE: DailyClack

GB date is tentatively set for July.

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - Updated Shift Icon, Vendors, July GB
« Reply #41 on: Mon, 12 April 2021, 12:03:24 »
I like everything about this set except the shift keys. But other than that the set looks amazing will definitely buy it.
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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #42 on: Mon, 12 April 2021, 13:31:24 »
The shift legends are questionable. Can you change it to JP legends what is also on the original Pingmaster?

I already spoke about this: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=112117.msg3034993#msg3034993

One thing I can do is make them less wide for all you sizeists :p out there:

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In other news, we have vendors:

US: Vala Supply
CAN: DeskHero
UK: Proto[Typist]
EU: MyKeyboard
AS: zFrontier
OCE: DailyClack

GB date is tentatively set for July.

Yeah the smaller arrow on the right looks much better imo haha. I guess I'm part of the sizeist club

Thanks for the update dude, looking forward to this summer

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - New Version w/ Renders
« Reply #43 on: Tue, 13 April 2021, 09:07:22 »
Quote

I already spoke about this: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=112117.msg3034993#msg3034993

One thing I can do is make them less wide for all you sizeists :p out there:


I actually prefer the icons to the Japanese text. Moreover, I prefer the wider legends, too. Seems most people don't feel that way, though. But we do exist!

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GB date is tentatively set for July.

 Perfect! ;D

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - Updated Shift Icon, Vendors, July GB
« Reply #44 on: Tue, 13 April 2021, 16:33:51 »
So pretty!

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - Updated Shift Icon, Vendors, July GB
« Reply #45 on: Wed, 14 April 2021, 08:30:20 »
 ;D ;D ;D loving this, very excited for this summer!!!  ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #46 on: Wed, 14 April 2021, 22:48:11 »
*chef's kiss*

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - Updated Shift Icon, Vendors, July GB
« Reply #47 on: Tue, 20 April 2021, 14:05:49 »
Hi all,

First round pricing came back and it was a bit...shocking. The vendors and I have decided to target a higher MOQ with a larger base kit (FAIR WARNING: it will still be expensive but hopefully better value). Please see below for kit updates:

1. Merged Numpad and Extension into Base kit
2. Removed Numpad accents and moved all remaining accents into a separate kit. This should help with both Base kit and JIS pricing.
3. Moved macOS support into JIS kit. Again, this was done to help Base kit pricing (apologies to the Mac users out there).
4. Spacebar kit pricing was actually pretty reasonable, so I added very basic 40s support
5. No changes to Relegendables kit
6. OS icon has been made less wide, in line with the change to the Shift icon

Also, I've relooked at the colors and picked some new standards. Part of the reason for this is that the blue that was originally used is no longer available. Fortunately, the new standard is very close. The alpha and modifier colors should also be less green now. All colors are still stock SP PBT standards. Updated renders are being worked on and will be posted later, but the new colors are reflected in the updated kit images.

Base



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Accents

« Last Edit: Tue, 20 April 2021, 16:39:49 by Fredington »

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Re: [IC] DCS Alps Pingmaster - Updated Kits and Colors
« Reply #48 on: Mon, 26 April 2021, 20:43:08 »
love it

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« Reply #49 on: Mon, 26 April 2021, 22:35:54 »
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