Duck Keyboard Weights AND BACK INSERTS- Orion V3

[smittysteve]

Hello All,

With the first round of Duck Orion V3 boards heading our way very soon... seems like a good time to add some brass!

As some of you will know, I ran my first (and only) group buy and made weights for the Eagle/ Viper, Jetfire, TC-V3 and Lightsaver v3. Old thread here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96368.0) if you weren't part of it and want to peruse. It wasn't perfect by any means, but all orders were fulfilled. Lessons were also certainly learned and I've done this round much differently!

1. Weights are done and in my hands. I ordered and paid for all the brass, so we're starting ahead of the game.

2. I'm doing this much more simply- the only weight being offered here are the Orion V3. (I do have a few of various models/ engraving options left from the previous buy, so if you're looking for an Eagle/ Viper, LSv3, TC-V3 or Jetfire, let me know. I just mean that this run, I am only making one weight, one size.)

3. I'm using different shops for polishing and engraving. I have worked with both and have samples in hand. Extremely good work!! See below.

You have three options to purchase:

1. RAW BRASS.

This is the condition of all weights right now and once again, these are in my hands in this condition. I have purchased the brass slabs cut for Orion and had the countersinks CNC'ed on all of them. You should expect raw brass. There will be sharp edges around the weight from the cutting and random blemishes/ scratches/ smudges as shown below.

Price: $55 + shipping.




2. POLISHED BRASS.

Weights will be polished with no engraving. You should expect a weight with countersinks, a nice smooth mirror polished finish and buffed edges.

Price: $65 + shipping.




3. ENGRAVED BRASS.

Weights will be polished, then CNC engraved, then any scuffs will be buffed out again by the polishing house. This is way more expensive than I thought it would be because of the complexity of the graphics and willingness of the shop to reset the machine over and over to account for flatness variation within the brass. The graphic is done by CNC-engraving and each weight takes about 30 minutes of CNC time (CNC shops calculate all prices by the machine minute). The engraving is a little complex... but it looks phenomenal. If you want to go the full hog, you'll like this one. You should expect a weight with countersinks, mirror polished brass and a cnc-engraved graphic. Please see the prototype images below. I do apologize for the cost, but this is what it's going to take to get these done. It's no sweat for me on this, I'm not invested in any of the formats here - just wanted to offer a top-quality weight I was confident in after the engraving in the last round was a little meh in places. I could have tried more shops, etc and maybe shaved this down a lot, but I like my CNC dude and I'm out of time to get these done, so this is what it is.

Many thanks once again to Gaiden for the artwork assist on these. Dude is crazy talented and I can't thank him enough for putting the graphic together just as I imagined it. Plus, he's a freaking great guy and I'm grateful for him as a friend.

Price: $105 + shipping.





This thing was really hard to get good photos of, folks. It's lovely though - I'm very pleased with how it all turned out.


Timeline:

Here's the good and bad with this one. I have 70 weights in hand to sell... so I'm just going to do this fully FCFS and start shipping RAW weights as they are ordered. For the others, of course, I'd like to do polishing and engraving in larger batches, so I'll compile those orders as they come in and fulfill asap. However, please order now. I'll start taking orders as soon as this thread is live and will begin invoicing immediately- I paid for the brass like three months ago - wifey says "sell those freaking things!" or something like that. When 70 weights are gone, we're done. For the engraved and polished, I'll go run them through polishing and engraving within a couple of weeks even if all 70 aren't claimed so I can get them shipped.

Orders Open: When the thread is approved

Orders Close: When 70 weights are sold

ORDER FORM: https://forms.gle/wf6SWx6tsMqQ69Yf6

Shipping:

RAW- Immediately
POLISHED and ENGRAVED- within 4 weeks from close of the sale.

We should have a nice tight, tidy timeline on this one, folks. With material in hand, polishing and engraving samples looking  , I think we have a much-improved process from last time.

I will use a medium flat-rate box for all US shipping. I can add the $14.35 into the first invoice if you'd like. From running the first batch, if it was only one weight, I was able to save folks a couple of bucks by shipping in a first-class box instead of flat-rate. However, these are enough larger than anything in the last run, the difference would be minimal or none, so I think for ease of shipping/ record keeping/ invoicing, I'll do all US via flat-rate this time. International, from the last round, I'd expect in the ~$25-30 range for most international locations.

That's it! Please contact me anytime via any method below with any questions!

Geekhack: smittysteve
Reddit: smittysteve
Discord: Smittysteve#5074
Instagram: bet you can't guess!?! But there aren't as many keyboard pics there as there are pics of my awesome kids, so if you like kids, feel free to follow me there.
email: smlsmith9@gmail.com

That should cover the range of contacting me. As usual, there is a lot of life going on in my world, but I'm committed (and invested) in getting these out asap. In fact, for reasons, I want to have everything shipped out for this buy by the end of June.

Thank you for looking at the thread and considering adding some brass to your upcoming Orion boards!!!


UPDATE/ NEWS: I'm going to make a run of inserts for the back of these boards. As you've seen in the awesome photos out of Korea, the bottom of the Orion V3 has Duck's "X" and two dot pattern machined within a recess. Many have made inserts from wood, carbon fiber, acrylic, etc and we can do the same. Please register interest here/ vote for materials you're interested in!

https://forms.gle/vJ1zahDQPuDLZBVj9




8-15-19 INSERT TIME!

https://forms.gle/G6i5T8RwB6iZ1fkz7

I'll try to update here with more details/ pics, but it's pretty self-explanatory in the form. I've worked out pricing and materials - you can pick up inserts in carbon fiber, wood or a cool-looking silver acrylic.

I will most likely watch the initial trend and then pay upfront/ order with some extras for those that miss the form. If you want an insert, please click above. If you need to work out payment terms, just message me. I don't mind spotting you for it as long as needed - I just want an accurate count and want everyone who wants one to get one! 


WEIGHTS REMAINING:
Engraved: 0
Polished: 15
Raw: 0

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Approved

[itskuroi]

Ordered! Looks great

[iEatPuppers]

I like the engraving, even more so after realising that it's based on the Orion constellation. Ordered!

[haingo1094]

Ordered!

[smittysteve]

Ordered! Looks great

I like the engraving, even more so after realising that it's based on the Orion constellation. Ordered!

Ordered!

Awesome- thank you all for ordering!! Glad that you like the new engraving design, Gaiden outdid himself this time!

[flying1911]

What does a brother have to do to get the weight design files for Duck keyboards?

Here's my story: I am in a close group of mech enthusiasts who among us, own more than several Duck keyboards. We live in a place where access to brass machining service is easy and affordable, which means we can have the weights made for our boards at costs considerably lower than those of this GB (and the previous ones), let alone shipping to our country which is expensive. I have been trying to contact relevant individuals and ask for their permission to use the files strictly for non-commercial use, but no luck at all.

My argument is: Duck keyboards, fantastic as they are, are incomplete products without the weights. That's why they put the weight compartment there in the first place. It is simply frustrating for us to have paid thousands of dollars in total for what we consider incomplete, and then have to join a separate GB to be able to complete them while we have the ability do it ourselves at lower cost, with less waiting time and arguably of better quality, if the designs are shared.

Please don't get me wrong, my words mean no harm to this GB. In fact, I wish it the best of luck as it provides the exact solution that many people need. But not us, and I'm quite sure there are Duck keyboard owners out there who feel the same way as we do. Based on my experience in this community, GB runners sharing design files is a fairly common practice, for instance, the SAIB-CP was missing the weight the its runner did publish the file after GB finished.

I was about to give up on my venture and sit on my frustration, but I can't, now that this GB came up conveniently right before the conclusion of the Orion V3 GB, meanwhile my reasonable request (I think) has been largely ignored.

[Legoo]

Ordered for the engraved one, looks amazing !

[smittysteve]

What does a brother have to do to get the weight design files for Duck keyboards?

Here's my story: I am in a close group of mech enthusiasts who among us, own more than several Duck keyboards. We live in a place where access to brass machining service is easy and affordable, which means we can have the weights made for our boards at costs considerably lower than those of this GB (and the previous ones), let alone shipping to our country which is expensive. I have been trying to contact relevant individuals and ask for their permission to use the files strictly for non-commercial use, but no luck at all.

My argument is: Duck keyboards, fantastic as they are, are incomplete products without the weights. That's why they put the weight compartment there in the first place. It is simply frustrating for us to have paid thousands of dollars in total for what we consider incomplete, and then have to join a separate GB to be able to complete them while we have the ability do it ourselves at lower cost, with less waiting time and arguably of better quality, if the designs are shared.

Please don't get me wrong, my words mean no harm to this GB. In fact, I wish it the best of luck as it provides the exact solution that many people need. But not us, and I'm quite sure there are Duck keyboard owners out there who feel the same way as we do. Based on my experience in this community, GB runners sharing design files is a fairly common practice, for instance, the SAIB-CP was missing the weight the its runner did publish the file after GB finished.

I was about to give up on my venture and sit on my frustration, but I can't, now that this GB came up conveniently right before the conclusion of the Orion V3 GB, meanwhile my reasonable request (I think) has been largely ignored.

My only hesitation in giving out Duck's files is just that- they aren't mine to distribute. He has been EXTREMELY kind to me offering the files and measurements and help as I've gone through the weight projects. He's an insanely nice person and I will always support his buys for that alone. However, I feel funny passing on something given to me that isn't mine. That said, I'm 99% sure he won't mind, it's just something I don't feel is my right to decide for him.

He knows about my projects, obviously and I'm sure he'd be fine with yours. I will ask him next time I have the chance if he's ok with me passing it along to you because like you said, these boards need weights. Merlin did a fantastic job on the early runs and as he was busy, I've tried to pick these up just to help out. You're right, you can surely do them at lower costs outside of the US- I'm stomaching the cost here (and those choosing to order are doing the same) because I'm making them locally in small batches, which is a bit spendy.

[flying1911]

My only hesitation in giving out Duck's files is just that- they aren't mine to distribute. He has been EXTREMELY kind to me offering the files and measurements and help as I've gone through the weight projects. He's an insanely nice person and I will always support his buys for that alone. However, I feel funny passing on something given to me that isn't mine. That said, I'm 99% sure he won't mind, it's just something I don't feel is my right to decide for him.

He knows about my projects, obviously and I'm sure he'd be fine with yours. I will ask him next time I have the chance if he's ok with me passing it along to you because like you said, these boards need weights. Merlin did a fantastic job on the early runs and as he was busy, I've tried to pick these up just to help out. You're right, you can surely do them at lower costs outside of the US- I'm stomaching the cost here (and those choosing to order are doing the same) because I'm making them locally in small batches, which is a bit spendy.

Thanks for the kind words, Steve. I totally understand your ground, that's why I didn't want to put you in a difficult situation by asking further and went straight to Duck after that. I've pursued this little project for quite a while and seemed to reach a dead end, so I was just venting my frustration, not meaning to call anyone out.

It's possible that I've been knocking the wrong door, and I'd really appreciate it if you could put in a word or two to see if he's ok with the idea. Again, best of luck with the GB!

[sJ1N]

engraved looks dope ! in for one 

[jrfhoutx]

Ordered! Looks great

I like the engraving, even more so after realising that it's based on the Orion constellation. Ordered!

Ordered!

Awesome- thank you all for ordering!! Glad that you like the new engraving design, Gaiden outdid himself this time!

The CNC engraving looks super clean, very nice, Steve.

[eyedrop]

The engraved weight shown above hasn't been polished yet, is that correct?

[Hoobreezy]

Ordered a polished brass weight w/o the engraving for my Jetfire last GB, and put in my order for an engraved Orion v3 one this morning! Thanks again for this, Steve!

[smittysteve]

The engraved weight shown above hasn't been polished yet, is that correct?

It has been polished actually. I tried the engraving on an unpolished weight too just for fun and to see if it was worth offering as an option, but it looked terrible. The engraving is so nice, with the other unpolished scuffs and such still there, it just didn't work. If anyone does want an unpolished/ engraved, we can do it (and I can send you pics). It's $10 less - exactly what the polishing shop is charging per.

Edit: I do see what you mean- it was really hard to get good pics of the polishing and engraving. I'll try to take a few more tonight to show it off a bit better.

[smittysteve]

Thank you all for the kind comments and for jumping in with orders.

21 gone so far. Breakdown in case you're curious: 10 engraved, 9 polished, 2 raw. I'll start sending some invoices tonight and will plan to ship the 2 raw (and any others that come in over the weekend) on Monday.

Going to go post on MM now. If you know anyone waiting for that sweet Orion, thanks kindly for pointing them to this thread.

[eyedrop]

Maybe it is the lighting, the polished weight (#2) is a lot shinier than the engraved one.

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[smittysteve]

Maybe it is the lighting, the polished weight (#2) is a lot shinier than the engraved one.

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For sure the lighting. I tried outdoor, indoor, in the garage. It was tricky to photograph for sure. It does look really nice in person though.

[smittysteve]

My only hesitation in giving out Duck's files is just that- they aren't mine to distribute. He has been EXTREMELY kind to me offering the files and measurements and help as I've gone through the weight projects. He's an insanely nice person and I will always support his buys for that alone. However, I feel funny passing on something given to me that isn't mine. That said, I'm 99% sure he won't mind, it's just something I don't feel is my right to decide for him.

He knows about my projects, obviously and I'm sure he'd be fine with yours. I will ask him next time I have the chance if he's ok with me passing it along to you because like you said, these boards need weights. Merlin did a fantastic job on the early runs and as he was busy, I've tried to pick these up just to help out. You're right, you can surely do them at lower costs outside of the US- I'm stomaching the cost here (and those choosing to order are doing the same) because I'm making them locally in small batches, which is a bit spendy.

Thanks for the kind words, Steve. I totally understand your ground, that's why I didn't want to put you in a difficult situation by asking further and went straight to Duck after that. I've pursued this little project for quite a while and seemed to reach a dead end, so I was just venting my frustration, not meaning to call anyone out.

It's possible that I've been knocking the wrong door, and I'd really appreciate it if you could put in a word or two to see if he's ok with the idea. Again, best of luck with the GB!

Thank you too for the kind words and for understanding. No offense taken at all and sorry that you've tried other routes already too with more frustration. Happy to help if at all possible- I'll keep you posted in PMs. 

[cuongcan2020]

In for one.

Does it come with the screws?

[smittysteve]

In for one.

Does it come with the screws?

Aah, yes, thank you for reminding me- forgot to put that in OP. Yes indeed, comes with brass screws.

Edit- and thanks for joining!

[Broseph]

Sweet in for an engraved one

[smittysteve]

Sweet in for an engraved one

Thanks for joining, Broseph. Love the name!

[homiechicken]

In for a polished weight!

[objex]

I think I'm confused about the weights, this will be my first board with one. Is this an internal weight? AKA this will NOT be visible on the bottom of the board once built? And if so, does that mean after installing this weight, the bottom of the case will still have that empty recessed area with the "X" logo that looks like a weight is supposed to go there?

[dyrdevil]

I think I'm confused about the weights, this will be my first board with one. Is this an internal weight? AKA this will NOT be visible on the bottom of the board once built? And if so, does that mean after installing this weight, the bottom of the case will still have that empty recessed area with the "X" logo that looks like a weight is supposed to go there?

Yes, this is an internal weight. There is a cutout on the inside that fits the weight.
If you check duck’s instagram, and kbdlab, you can see pictures of people making cosmetic “weights” that
Fit into the bottom “x” cutout. I believe they are attaching those with double sided tape.

It seems Duck has teased a brass weight for the “X” cutout, but there are no screw holes on the bottom.
SmittySteve, if you happen to have knowledge of files/weights/plans for the bottom “X” cutout, that would be very interesting!

I’m in for one.

[Puddsy]

GLWGB

[objex]

Yes, this is an internal weight. There is a cutout on the inside that fits the weight.
If you check duck’s instagram, and kbdlab, you can see pictures of people making cosmetic “weights” that
Fit into the bottom “x” cutout. I believe they are attaching those with double sided tape.

It seems Duck has teased a brass weight for the “X” cutout, but there are no screw holes on the bottom.
SmittySteve, if you happen to have knowledge of files/weights/plans for the bottom “X” cutout, that would be very interesting!

I’m in for one.

Thanks for the explanation. I think that info would be useful to have in the OP. Yeah I saw the ones on kbdlab, those are what I'm interested in. I didn't even realize that there aren't screw holes or anything to secure an external weight, so that's pretty embarrassing. I'm not sure I would've joined Orion v3 had I fully grasped the bottom case design, lol whoops.

[smittysteve]

GLWGB

Thanks, Puddsy.

[smittysteve]

I think I'm confused about the weights, this will be my first board with one. Is this an internal weight? AKA this will NOT be visible on the bottom of the board once built? And if so, does that mean after installing this weight, the bottom of the case will still have that empty recessed area with the "X" logo that looks like a weight is supposed to go there?

Yes, this is an internal weight. There is a cutout on the inside that fits the weight.
If you check duck’s instagram, and kbdlab, you can see pictures of people making cosmetic “weights” that
Fit into the bottom “x” cutout. I believe they are attaching those with double sided tape.

It seems Duck has teased a brass weight for the “X” cutout, but there are no screw holes on the bottom.
SmittySteve, if you happen to have knowledge of files/weights/plans for the bottom “X” cutout, that would be very interesting!

I’m in for one.

Yes, this is an internal weight. There is a cutout on the inside that fits the weight.
If you check duck’s instagram, and kbdlab, you can see pictures of people making cosmetic “weights” that
Fit into the bottom “x” cutout. I believe they are attaching those with double sided tape.

It seems Duck has teased a brass weight for the “X” cutout, but there are no screw holes on the bottom.
SmittySteve, if you happen to have knowledge of files/weights/plans for the bottom “X” cutout, that would be very interesting!

I’m in for one.

Thanks for the explanation. I think that info would be useful to have in the OP. Yeah I saw the ones on kbdlab, those are what I'm interested in. I didn't even realize that there aren't screw holes or anything to secure an external weight, so that's pretty embarrassing. I'm not sure I would've joined Orion v3 had I fully grasped the bottom case design, lol whoops.

Yeah, I've seen the same pics bouncing around and it is a bit confusing! I will see if I can get some information on this asap and post here.

[smittysteve]

Everyone who has submitted an order so far should have an invoice. Please let me know if you ordered a weight but don't see an invoice or if I've otherwise buggered anything up.

We are at 33 weights gone so far- about halfway there. If you want one, jump on in. 

I'll be shipping the raw weights Monday or Tuesday. I'm also going to go take the first batch over for polishing to get the polished and engraved weights moving. I'll keep you posted as we go.

[iEatPuppers]

I was invoiced for an amount of zero dollars. I'm international though; was that intentional?

[smittysteve]

I was invoiced for an amount of zero dollars. I'm international though; was that intentional?

Whoops, nope. Just missed that little amount field. I’ll fix it for you in the am - sorry about that!

[oh_chesteroni]

Filled out form last week, no invoice

[smittysteve]

Filled out form last week, no invoice

Coming this evening- and yours is over at polishing already with the first batch. 

[smittysteve]

Hi All- quick update. 40 weights are at polishing, should be done Tuesday. Will be shipping most if not all of the current polished only orders on Wednesday/ Thursday. CNC engraving will begin late next week. The shop is busy but will be working in parts from our order in between other jobs. The unengraved weights will ship tomorrow. 

I'm in the midst of a move, so thusly the motivation to get this all done by the end of the month. Think we're actually looking pretty solid.

Anyone on the fence- message me. I'd really prefer to ship weights off this month and worry about payment later. I trust you knuckleheads in this community, so if you want one but want to pay later, just send me a message.

[oh_chesteroni]

Filled out form last week, no invoice

Coming this evening- and yours is over at polishing already with the first batch. 

Thanks Steve!

[dyrdevil]

Paid! Looking forward. Thanks!

[smittysteve]

Shipped raw Orion V3 orders as well as those who have picked up a TC-V3, Jetfire, etc. today. Have sent a couple of tracking numbers, but we're hosting a big kids party tonight, so won't get the rest out until late tonight or tomorrow. However, if you're an older weight or raw Orion, it's in the mail and you'll see it on Monday.

Spoke with the polishing house- I am picking them up Tuesday, so will look to ship those babies Wednesday/ Thursday next week.

Thanks to everyone for the prompt payments- extremely helpful.

Have a great weekend, y'all.

[cuongcan2020]

Shipped raw Orion V3 orders as well as those who have picked up a TC-V3, Jetfire, etc. today. Have sent a couple of tracking numbers, but we're hosting a big kids party tonight, so won't get the rest out until late tonight or tomorrow. However, if you're an older weight or raw Orion, it's in the mail and you'll see it on Monday.

Spoke with the polishing house- I am picking them up Tuesday, so will look to ship those babies Wednesday/ Thursday next week.

Thanks to everyone for the prompt payments- extremely helpful.

Have a great weekend, y'all.

Hi, any updates on the polished weights?

[smittysteve]

Hello All,

I drove down to the polishing house Thursday and picked up 25 of the weights which I took over to the CNC folks for engraving. Polishing looks AMAZING- really nice... but of course, they are slightly behind and I left the rest with him to finish up. Therefore, I haven't shipped anything other than the older weights and Orion V3 Raw off yet. I'll plan on shipping all remaining orders - polished and engraved the week of the 23rd. I'm out on work travel this coming week so nothing will move, but the folks here are working through finishing engraving and polishing.

Logistics notes... I am in the midst of a move, thusly the compressed timeline. Our fam is heading out of Tucson, so after this month, working with these manufacturers who I really like will become more costly (ie: shipping). As of right now, 17 engraved weights have been ordered and I'm making 25. I think that will be it for the engraved - if you want one, get it now. All of my remaining unclaimed weights, I'm polishing, but unless someone really wants it, once these 25 engraved weights are gone, I don't think I'd try to ship a weight back to my shop here. I will work to find a shop in our new home, but no timeline to that. After the move, I'll have weights available until they are gone, but engraved will be limited to what I'm making now.

NEWS: I have sorted out details of the back insert and have the files from Duck to make a run of those! Currently, the back is indeed cut with a recess including the "X" and two dots. There are no screw holes for mounting, so most people have made something light - wood, carbon fiber, acrylic, etc and mounted that with double-sided tape. Want to do the same?? I have quotes on a variety of materials, please register interest/ vote for materials here:

https://forms.gle/nVebjeXPz2XboTZZ6

Thanks for the support this run. Sorry that it's a little hectic and fast, but I want to wrap up the first wave of orders before moving. Email or message me if you need anything!

EDIT: Here's a pic of what the insert will look like.

[Carlobv]

Would it be possible to do combined shipping for the weight and the insert?

[smittysteve]

Would it be possible to do combined shipping for the weight and the insert?

For sure.

[Carlobv]

Thanks, just filled the form for a weight, but would obv want to wait on the insert. 

[Broseph]

Hello All,

I drove down to the polishing house Thursday and picked up 25 of the weights which I took over to the CNC folks for engraving. Polishing looks AMAZING- really nice... but of course, they are slightly behind and I left the rest with him to finish up. Therefore, I haven't shipped anything other than the older weights and Orion V3 Raw off yet. I'll plan on shipping all remaining orders - polished and engraved the week of the 23rd. I'm out on work travel this coming week so nothing will move, but the folks here are working through finishing engraving and polishing.

Logistics notes... I am in the midst of a move, thusly the compressed timeline. Our fam is heading out of Tucson, so after this month, working with these manufacturers who I really like will become more costly (ie: shipping). As of right now, 17 engraved weights have been ordered and I'm making 25. I think that will be it for the engraved - if you want one, get it now. All of my remaining unclaimed weights, I'm polishing, but unless someone really wants it, once these 25 engraved weights are gone, I don't think I'd try to ship a weight back to my shop here. I will work to find a shop in our new home, but no timeline to that. After the move, I'll have weights available until they are gone, but engraved will be limited to what I'm making now.

NEWS: I have sorted out details of the back insert and have the files from Duck to make a run of those! Currently, the back is indeed cut with a recess including the "X" and two dots. There are no screw holes for mounting, so most people have made something light - wood, carbon fiber, acrylic, etc and mounted that with double-sided tape. Want to do the same?? I have quotes on a variety of materials, please register interest/ vote for materials here:

https://forms.gle/nVebjeXPz2XboTZZ6

Thanks for the support this run. Sorry that it's a little hectic and fast, but I want to wrap up the first wave of orders before moving. Email or message me if you need anything!

EDIT: Here's a pic of what the insert will look like.

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What would the time frame for the inserts be? I'd like it to ship with my weight as well.

[smittysteve]

Hello All,

I drove down to the polishing house Thursday and picked up 25 of the weights which I took over to the CNC folks for engraving. Polishing looks AMAZING- really nice... but of course, they are slightly behind and I left the rest with him to finish up. Therefore, I haven't shipped anything other than the older weights and Orion V3 Raw off yet. I'll plan on shipping all remaining orders - polished and engraved the week of the 23rd. I'm out on work travel this coming week so nothing will move, but the folks here are working through finishing engraving and polishing.

Logistics notes... I am in the midst of a move, thusly the compressed timeline. Our fam is heading out of Tucson, so after this month, working with these manufacturers who I really like will become more costly (ie: shipping). As of right now, 17 engraved weights have been ordered and I'm making 25. I think that will be it for the engraved - if you want one, get it now. All of my remaining unclaimed weights, I'm polishing, but unless someone really wants it, once these 25 engraved weights are gone, I don't think I'd try to ship a weight back to my shop here. I will work to find a shop in our new home, but no timeline to that. After the move, I'll have weights available until they are gone, but engraved will be limited to what I'm making now.

NEWS: I have sorted out details of the back insert and have the files from Duck to make a run of those! Currently, the back is indeed cut with a recess including the "X" and two dots. There are no screw holes for mounting, so most people have made something light - wood, carbon fiber, acrylic, etc and mounted that with double-sided tape. Want to do the same?? I have quotes on a variety of materials, please register interest/ vote for materials here:

https://forms.gle/nVebjeXPz2XboTZZ6

Thanks for the support this run. Sorry that it's a little hectic and fast, but I want to wrap up the first wave of orders before moving. Email or message me if you need anything!

EDIT: Here's a pic of what the insert will look like.

Show Image

What would the time frame for the inserts be? I'd like it to ship with my weight as well.

This is a good question and fair question. Clearly many ordering one will also want the other. I hadn’t thought that through- being concerned with getting the weights done and shipped before we move.

However, shipping together makes a ton of sense since I’m planning on doing flat rate.

I don’t mind waiting and shipping things together, but I’d estimate it will be end of July-ish to ship. We’re moving, but won’t have the new place ready to move in for a few months so we’ll be dirtbagging it for a month or so. I don’t want to over promise since I know life will be busy.

Shipping the inserts should be pretty easy/ cheap. I think I’ll be able to send them in bubble mailers like Danny and I did for the Viper/ Eagle diffusers.

Totally your call. I was excited to get weights out and in your hands concurrent to the boards arriving. However, if you don’t mind waiting, I can hold on to it and ship with bottom insert after the move.

If you have ordered a weight and want an insert, please just shoot me a message and I’ll make a note in the spreadsheet regarding ship the weight ASAP next week or wait and ship together. Thanks!

[cuongcan2020]

Hi, any updates?

[smittysteve]

Hello All,

So... you may recall, I suffer from pathological optimism. Really sorry about that - there was just no way I was shipping weights out while working, packing up life for myself, wife, three kids, two dogs, etc., loading the moving trucks and driving from AZ to CO. It's been a bear the last week or so and no weights have moved. Jordan says she's never moving again, so it looks like we'll be in Colorado for a while!

However, I do have all of the weights engraved and polished and in hand. It took a few trips down to the shops (~40 min) while moving, but wanted to get everything done before moving so I'm not shipping these around. I carried them in my car to make sure this fine brass made the trip safely and I'm now ready to get everything shipped out. I believe I'll have all orders shipped by the end of next week and still hope they arrive alongside these gorgeous stinking boards. SO stoked to get mine!

I think I'm all caught up on invoices - just sent out all that I think I had waiting (and thank you all very much for your kind messages and patience!). If you think you should have an invoice but don't, please message me!

Oh, I'll just leave this here. Holy smokes, all of the weights turned out amazing. The polishing shop worked really hard on these and it shows!!! And the engraved weights... well, judge for yourself. At current totals from the spreadsheet, I have four more engraved weights available, so if you want one of these bad boys, fill out the form asap. I have 20 polished weights available, but again, when all of these are gone, they are gone.



INSERT UPDATE:
I have quotes on inserts and will post the order form for order those early next week. I think we'll end up with: carbon fiber (clear #1), wood (clear #2) and one or two acrylic options. I'm still working on pricing, but I need to keep the choices somewhat limited to get the best pricing. Still very much TBD, but I think CF will be ~$30, wood and acrylic ~$20. If you are interested in an insert and haven't yet filled out the interest form, please do - it helps me dial in materials and pricing.

Thanks, everyone- you all rock. Have a very happy 4th of July to those of you enjoying some firecrackers today!! 

[eyedrop]

Thanks for the update, Steve.  I just send you an email.

[eyedrop]

Oh, and is it just lighting on the weight, some of the letter on the Orion word doesn't looked filled in (black)?

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[sJ1N]

Thanks for the update ! If i were to combine the shipping of weight + back insert to the EU would that safe a lot compared to 2 seperate shipments ? Still thinking of going that route possibly but i have no idea how much of a difference that would actually make in the end 

[smittysteve]

Oh, and is it just lighting on the weight, some of the letter on the Orion word doesn't looked filled in (black)?

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Yes, good eye. There isn’t supposed to be a fill on these. That is some of the polish in the letters left behind. I’m going to tinker with it this weekend - see if I can get it out with a q-tip or something. It looks super cool in my opinion, but as you noticed, it’s not 100% filled. I’ll just leave it as is in my own, but I’ll investigate removal as well.

[smittysteve]

Thanks for the update ! If i were to combine the shipping of weight + back insert to the EU would that safe a lot compared to 2 seperate shipments ? Still thinking of going that route possibly but i have no idea how much of a difference that would actually make in the end 

For Euro-land, it will be pretty significant, I think. It’s about free to include the insert with the weight for the additional mass. Sending the insert on its own will be ~$8-ish (best guess).

[Carlobv]

I got my invoice today. I’d prefer to wait until the  inserts are done for combined shipping. Is that ok?

[sJ1N]

Thanks for the update ! If i were to combine the shipping of weight + back insert to the EU would that safe a lot compared to 2 seperate shipments ? Still thinking of going that route possibly but i have no idea how much of a difference that would actually make in the end 

For Euro-land, it will be pretty significant, I think. It’s about free to include the insert with the weight for the additional mass. Sending the insert on its own will be ~$8-ish (best guess).

Alright i wouldn't mind waiting until the inserts are ready as well then ! 

[dyrdevil]

Thanks for the update. Pm sent regarding shipping timeline.

[smittysteve]

Hi All,

A batch of weights went out yesterday. If you're in it, I just sent tracking info and they should be arriving tomorrow. I'm excited for you all to have these in hand. I'm trying my best to get these to you ahead of/ concurrent with the boards arriving stateside. I do apologize for being a bit behind again here - the move has been a bear. We don't have a place yet, so we are crashing with family for now. Since I've lost my workshop and my MIL would probably be fairly unsympathetic if I fill her kitchen table up with brass, I'm literally carrying around all of these bad boys in my car. I went over by a park the other day and packed up orders over lunch. It's pretty funny- I got some looks. Whatever, they're just jealous they don't have brass coming for their Duck boards.

I just finished up a few major work/ life things, so I'm going to do my darndest to have the rest of these out the door by next Friday. I think it's do-able, I have about 25 or so left to ship. If you haven't told me to hold on to your order to combine with inserts, please make sure to message me. I'm shipping all the weights unless you've asked me to hang on.

Insert order form will open up Tuesday and will probably only be open for a week or two. I want to get those on the way and I'll probably pay for them ahead of collecting from y'all again, but that's a bit TBD.

Have a good weekend!

[typischt]

Looking forward to the weight and l‘m also interested in the back-insert. Sent out an email regarding shipping together, hopefully still in time before the shipping.

[eugenez90]

any eta for polished weights shipment? Does your earlier batch that you shipped include any polished or engraved ones?

[iEatPuppers]

Hi Steve, would you be able to provide an update on the remaining weights and/or inserts? I imagine a bunch of people would have received their boards within the last week or so.

[smittysteve]

Hi All,

Thanks so much for your patience and kind words as we've been moving. It's been a bear, but it's all good. Something fun about living in a two-bedroom apt with three kids and two dogs while we wait for the house. I mean there's also something horrendous about it. But I love it. And I really appreciate your patience. The weights have been in my car safe and sound through the whole move. It's just been hard to find the time and space to crunch through the rest of the shipping.

I have about 10 more boxes that will go out tomorrow. I'll send tracking after those hit the post. Hope to pack the next 10 over the weekend. I know boards are in your hands - my board is in my hands and I want you all to build these babies!!

A quick note on that... forgive that I didn't take it out of the plastic yet, but the fit on the weights is perfect. Whew.





I've just sent invoices for those who have ordered in the last week or two. If you think you should have an invoice at this point and don't, please PM me.

We are down to three engraved weights left and about 15 polished. I don't have any more raw weights- I polished all of the extras before leaving Tucson. I don't plan on running these again, so if you have been waiting, don't wait much longer!

INSERTS. Leggo.

https://forms.gle/G6i5T8RwB6iZ1fkz7

Details are in the form... offering carbon fiber, wood and silver acrylic. I will most likely watch the initial trend and then pay upfront/ order with some extras for those that miss the form. If you want an insert, please click above. If you need to work out payment terms, just message me. I don't mind spotting you for it as long as needed - I just want an accurate count and want everyone who wants one to get one! 

Think that's it for now. PM me with any questions.

[Broseph]

Hi All,

Thanks so much for your patience and kind words as we've been moving. It's been a bear, but it's all good. Something fun about living in a two-bedroom apt with three kids and two dogs while we wait for the house. I mean there's also something horrendous about it. But I love it. And I really appreciate your patience. The weights have been in my car safe and sound through the whole move. It's just been hard to find the time and space to crunch through the rest of the shipping.

I have about 10 more boxes that will go out tomorrow. I'll send tracking after those hit the post. Hope to pack the next 10 over the weekend. I know boards are in your hands - my board is in my hands and I want you all to build these babies!!

A quick note on that... forgive that I didn't take it out of the plastic yet, but the fit on the weights is perfect. Whew.

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I've just sent invoices for those who have ordered in the last week or two. If you think you should have an invoice at this point and don't, please PM me.

We are down to three engraved weights left and about 15 polished. I don't have any more raw weights- I polished all of the extras before leaving Tucson. I don't plan on running these again, so if you have been waiting, don't wait much longer!

INSERTS. Leggo.

https://forms.gle/G6i5T8RwB6iZ1fkz7

Details are in the form... offering carbon fiber, wood and silver acrylic. I will most likely watch the initial trend and then pay upfront/ order with some extras for those that miss the form. If you want an insert, please click above. If you need to work out payment terms, just message me. I don't mind spotting you for it as long as needed - I just want an accurate count and want everyone who wants one to get one! 

Think that's it for now. PM me with any questions.

I don't see it mentioned anywhere, but what is the expected time frame for the insert?

[dyrdevil]

This is great! Is the silver acrylic a mirror effect?

[rora]

Really nice work, def getting CF to match my jane v2 ce

Thanks for the amazing work steve!

[minhvo]

Hi All,

Thanks so much for your patience and kind words as we've been moving. It's been a bear, but it's all good. Something fun about living in a two-bedroom apt with three kids and two dogs while we wait for the house. I mean there's also something horrendous about it. But I love it. And I really appreciate your patience. The weights have been in my car safe and sound through the whole move. It's just been hard to find the time and space to crunch through the rest of the shipping.

I have about 10 more boxes that will go out tomorrow. I'll send tracking after those hit the post. Hope to pack the next 10 over the weekend. I know boards are in your hands - my board is in my hands and I want you all to build these babies!!

Did pm you last 2 weeks, please check your message. Thank you.

[cuongcan2020]

Hi All,

A batch of weights went out yesterday. If you're in it, I just sent tracking info and they should be arriving tomorrow. I'm excited for you all to have these in hand. I'm trying my best to get these to you ahead of/ concurrent with the boards arriving stateside. I do apologize for being a bit behind again here - the move has been a bear. We don't have a place yet, so we are crashing with family for now. Since I've lost my workshop and my MIL would probably be fairly unsympathetic if I fill her kitchen table up with brass, I'm literally carrying around all of these bad boys in my car. I went over by a park the other day and packed up orders over lunch. It's pretty funny- I got some looks. Whatever, they're just jealous they don't have brass coming for their Duck boards.

I just finished up a few major work/ life things, so I'm going to do my darndest to have the rest of these out the door by next Friday. I think it's do-able, I have about 25 or so left to ship. If you haven't told me to hold on to your order to combine with inserts, please make sure to message me. I'm shipping all the weights unless you've asked me to hang on.

Insert order form will open up Tuesday and will probably only be open for a week or two. I want to get those on the way and I'll probably pay for them ahead of collecting from y'all again, but that's a bit TBD.

Have a good weekend!

Just sent you a pm regarding my shipping address.

[smittysteve]

Really nice work, def getting CF to match my jane v2 ce

Thanks for the amazing work steve!

Thank you!

Hi All,

A batch of weights went out yesterday. If you're in it, I just sent tracking info and they should be arriving tomorrow. I'm excited for you all to have these in hand. I'm trying my best to get these to you ahead of/ concurrent with the boards arriving stateside. I do apologize for being a bit behind again here - the move has been a bear. We don't have a place yet, so we are crashing with family for now. Since I've lost my workshop and my MIL would probably be fairly unsympathetic if I fill her kitchen table up with brass, I'm literally carrying around all of these bad boys in my car. I went over by a park the other day and packed up orders over lunch. It's pretty funny- I got some looks. Whatever, they're just jealous they don't have brass coming for their Duck boards.

I just finished up a few major work/ life things, so I'm going to do my darndest to have the rest of these out the door by next Friday. I think it's do-able, I have about 25 or so left to ship. If you haven't told me to hold on to your order to combine with inserts, please make sure to message me. I'm shipping all the weights unless you've asked me to hang on.

Insert order form will open up Tuesday and will probably only be open for a week or two. I want to get those on the way and I'll probably pay for them ahead of collecting from y'all again, but that's a bit TBD.

Have a good weekend!

Just sent you a pm regarding my shipping address.

Got it, thanks. Shipping address updated.

Hi All,

Thanks so much for your patience and kind words as we've been moving. It's been a bear, but it's all good. Something fun about living in a two-bedroom apt with three kids and two dogs while we wait for the house. I mean there's also something horrendous about it. But I love it. And I really appreciate your patience. The weights have been in my car safe and sound through the whole move. It's just been hard to find the time and space to crunch through the rest of the shipping.

I have about 10 more boxes that will go out tomorrow. I'll send tracking after those hit the post. Hope to pack the next 10 over the weekend. I know boards are in your hands - my board is in my hands and I want you all to build these babies!!

Did pm you last 2 weeks, please check your message. Thank you.

Sorry- missed your message. Replied now.

[smittysteve]

This is great! Is the silver acrylic a mirror effect?

The silver is not a mirror effect, but I think it has some cool texture to it. I'm going on the recommendation of my supplier on this one - they say this type of acrylic turns out well. I really wanted to do something funky, but everything we tried needed layering and processing and I wasn't confident they would turn out nicely/ be durable enough.

Hi All,

Thanks so much for your patience and kind words as we've been moving. It's been a bear, but it's all good. Something fun about living in a two-bedroom apt with three kids and two dogs while we wait for the house. I mean there's also something horrendous about it. But I love it. And I really appreciate your patience. The weights have been in my car safe and sound through the whole move. It's just been hard to find the time and space to crunch through the rest of the shipping.

I have about 10 more boxes that will go out tomorrow. I'll send tracking after those hit the post. Hope to pack the next 10 over the weekend. I know boards are in your hands - my board is in my hands and I want you all to build these babies!!

A quick note on that... forgive that I didn't take it out of the plastic yet, but the fit on the weights is perfect. Whew.

Show Image

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I've just sent invoices for those who have ordered in the last week or two. If you think you should have an invoice at this point and don't, please PM me.

We are down to three engraved weights left and about 15 polished. I don't have any more raw weights- I polished all of the extras before leaving Tucson. I don't plan on running these again, so if you have been waiting, don't wait much longer!

INSERTS. Leggo.

https://forms.gle/G6i5T8RwB6iZ1fkz7

Details are in the form... offering carbon fiber, wood and silver acrylic. I will most likely watch the initial trend and then pay upfront/ order with some extras for those that miss the form. If you want an insert, please click above. If you need to work out payment terms, just message me. I don't mind spotting you for it as long as needed - I just want an accurate count and want everyone who wants one to get one! 

Think that's it for now. PM me with any questions.

I don't see it mentioned anywhere, but what is the expected time frame for the insert?

Thanks- forgot to mention this. The timeline for the inserts is about 1 month. Posting a proper update on the inserts in a few minutes.

[smittysteve]

Hi All-

Shipped two batches of weights last week. I'm running to post office with more as often as possible. I'll pass along tracking as soon as yours is out the door. So far, it's been all US orders - sorry international folk. I'll get the international orders moving asap.

Weights - still some polished weights available. The engraved weights are all spoken for, but I have about 20 polished weights remaining. Please fill out an order form if you'd like to get a polished weight.

Everything fits perfectly and looks awesome. I have no workshop right now, but I'm super freaking excited to build this board!



Weight order form: https://forms.gle/i6Sa9qDyCFsp98QC9

INSERTS

Orders have been a little slow, I'll post on MM today too. The Orion V3 is crying for an insert as you've seen if you have unpacked your board, and I want anyone who wants one to have an insert. However, I need to make the order by Friday to get these moving. I will pay in advance for the inserts and will get extras but am not going to over-order too much as to not take too hard of a bath on it. This means if you want an insert, please order by Friday to guarantee you get one. I will place the order Friday afternoon with the vendor and then we should be shipping those out within one month from then. As usual, if you want an insert for your board, but you're strung out on 4 (of the what 7 or 8??!!??) GMK set buys this month and just joined for an Octagon V3 (!!), just let me know and I'll work out an insert now/ pay later situation - no worries.

I put this all in the form but adding it here too. These are pics from Duck's Instagram and this round, with the move and all, I've kept it simple and mirrored what Duck did. You have three options to choose from on the inserts: carbon fiber, wood and silver acrylic. The pics below are NOT prototypes- they are straight from Duck's insta - but we should end up with something very close to these.

Carbon Fiber ($40 shipped CONUS):

Wood ($22 shipped CONUS):

Silver Acrylic ($30 shipped CONUS):

The inserts are held on by double-sided tape, there are no screw mount holes, just FYI.

Orion V3 Back Insert Order Form: https://forms.gle/PBFzwDC1aVn97Shx9

Any questions, please PM me here, PM on Discord or send me an email.

[Visionaire]

Any idea if this insert is the same size as the Octagon v3 as well?

[smittysteve]

Any idea if this insert is the same size as the Octagon v3 as well?

Yes, this is a good question. I believe it is, but I'm double-checking with Duck. I think you should be able to order an insert now and get ahead for Octagon V3. I believe the weight is the same too, but again, am checking.

Either way, I'll most likely run weights and inserts for Octagon V3 after getting everything tied up here on Orion V3.

[82d28a]

Any idea if this insert is the same size as the Octagon v3 as well?

Yes, this is a good question. I believe it is, but I'm double-checking with Duck. I think you should be able to order an insert now and get ahead for Octagon V3. I believe the weight is the same too, but again, am checking.

Either way, I'll most likely run weights and inserts for Octagon V3 after getting everything tied up here on Orion V3.

Big thanks buddy for all your hard work.

[smittysteve]

Can confirm - the INSERT is the same size on the new Octagon V3. The inserts running here WILL work in Octagon V3.

The weight is different between them - so we'll make a run of weights for Octagon V3 after wrapping up the Orion V3 shipping.

[haingo1094]

Can confirm - the INSERT is the same size on the new Octagon V3. The inserts running here WILL work in Octagon V3.

The weight is different between them - so we'll make a run of weights for Octagon V3 after wrapping up the Orion V3 shipping.

Can w8 for my weight come to Canada soon

[AuDiTH]

What's the status on shipping orders?

[OfTheWild]

Cool i'll grab a polished one. Thanks!

[82d28a]

Any updates when weights will ship would be appreciated.

[smittysteve]

Hi All,

Had a bit of work travel last week so nothing moved. However, we're back in action - 12 orders went out the door yesterday and tracking has been sent to those fine folks. I'm trying to catch up and have all the orders that aren't waiting for inserts out by mid next week. Next batch will also include the first of the international orders to get out. Sorry non-CONUS folks, it's a fair amount of work to get those out, so I've been knocking off the easier ones.

Inserts - no update. Should have an ETA from the manufacturer in the next week-ish. I haven't started invoicing for those yet, so you haven't missed anything. Need to send those babies out soon.

Have a good one!

[Smoff]

Hi All,

Had a bit of work travel last week so nothing moved. However, we're back in action - 12 orders went out the door yesterday and tracking has been sent to those fine folks. I'm trying to catch up and have all the orders that aren't waiting for inserts out by mid next week. Next batch will also include the first of the international orders to get out. Sorry non-CONUS folks, it's a fair amount of work to get those out, so I've been knocking off the easier ones.

Inserts - no update. Should have an ETA from the manufacturer in the next week-ish. I haven't started invoicing for those yet, so you haven't missed anything. Need to send those babies out soon.

Have a good one!

So, did I get a engraved weight or did I miss it? Or have you not counted everything yet? You never got back to me on dc haha

[minhvo]

Hi,

How about my order? is it include in the orders below? You did tell me will ship almost 1 month but not yet receive tracking number

Thank you.

Hi All,

Had a bit of work travel last week so nothing moved. However, we're back in action - 12 orders went out the door yesterday and tracking has been sent to those fine folks. I'm trying to catch up and have all the orders that aren't waiting for inserts out by mid next week. Next batch will also include the first of the international orders to get out. Sorry non-CONUS folks, it's a fair amount of work to get those out, so I've been knocking off the easier ones.

Inserts - no update. Should have an ETA from the manufacturer in the next week-ish. I haven't started invoicing for those yet, so you haven't missed anything. Need to send those babies out soon.

Have a good one!

[smittysteve]

Hi,

How about my order? is it include in the orders below? You did tell me will ship almost 1 month but not yet receive tracking number

Thank you.

Yes, yours went out last week - I sent tracking information to your gmail immediately.


I've just sent another armload out - tracking numbers for those are in your inboxes.

Going to punch through another big bunch this weekend, including international orders.

Have a good one.
Steve

[eyedrop]

Steve, send you email about the weight you sent me, can you check?  Thanks.

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[Carlobv]

Emailed two days ago but will try here

I just wanted to check on my weight.  I paid 8/22 and haven't heard anything yet.  I did mention that I would wait for the back inserts, but haven't heard anything on that either.  I did fill out that form for a carbon fiber.

Please let me know what's going on.  I'd probably rather not wait on the insert at this point since shipping seems to be included and it's been quite a while.

[dyrdevil]

does anyone have a picture of the screws that came with these weights? I'm having a hard time finding mine after a move and wondering if I'm just confused.

EDIT:  found the provided screws.

[sJ1N]

hey steve, i sent an email 10 days ago but haven't got a response so trying my luck here. it seems there aren't any updates on the back inserts so at this point i would also prefer to have the weight shipped separately.

[haingo1094]

hey steve, i sent an email 10 days ago but haven't got a response so trying my luck here. it seems there aren't any updates on the back inserts so at this point i would also prefer to have the weight shipped separately.

Me too !!! he is keeping silence !! but anyone in Canada received the weight yet?

[eyedrop]

I heard from Steve.  He is on travel and he sent my weight right before he left, that is why I didn't get a tracking number from him.

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[higgga]

Are the inserts still going to happen?  I would really like to get one.

[82d28a]

Yes same here!

[Smoff]

Sold my orion, no longer need the weight and back insert I never got invoiced for...

[iEatPuppers]

Any progress with the inserts?

[wholypantalones]

Is there still a chance to pick up a weight, or am I sol?

[mlev6]

Any plans to make an Octagon specific engraving design? Thanks!

[Etherealsound]

are there any plans to make a weight for duck viper/eagle v3?

[higgga]

are there any plans to make a weight for duck viper/eagle v3?

He already did a gb for those, so it's just a matter if he wants to again.

[wholypantalones]

I've been in contact with smitty about a weight two weeks ago, but I've gotten no reply in about a week or heard anything since. Just FYI.