[IC] GMK Oblivion V2 - Launches June 4th 2019 on Drop.com

[duckboi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSW6scUfnFw

[fatpolomanjr]

I would have suggested putting icons on base, text on Assembly base, and have a separate icon arrows kit, but that would shaft any ortho/ergo users that wanted icon arrows if that kit didn't hit MOQ.

Will text arrows really not hit moq on their own? What would it require for such a small kit? 50? 100?

[Furikurichemy]

sort of want icons in a kit so I could just buy as many as I needed to cover all the kits I order.

[Puddsy]

sort of want icons in a kit so I could just buy as many as I needed to cover all the kits I order.

[laughs in kit split costs]

[Furikurichemy]

sort of want icons in a kit so I could just buy as many as I needed to cover all the kits I order.

[laughs in kit split costs]

There was already talk of having arrows in a kit. I just think icon arrows would probably fair best.

[Oblotzky]

Played around with animation, Oblivion V360

[LightningXI]

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Played around with animation, Oblivion V360

wao pogchamp

[OracleKev]

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Played around with animation, Oblivion V360

wao pogchamp

It spins!  Makes me dizzy!

[crusader_alex]

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Played around with animation, Oblivion V360

wao pogchamp

Is that an lz cls or just a random tkl?

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[Oblotzky]

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Played around with animation, Oblivion V360

wao pogchamp

Is that an lz cls or just a random tkl?

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Jane V2, higher res attached below

[The_Royal]

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Played around with animation, Oblivion V360

wao pogchamp

Is that an lz cls or just a random tkl?

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Jane V2, higher res attached below

Hypnotizingly beautiful.

Any chance of getting some Assembly Board Renders? Planck/Preonic, UniGo66, Pearl, ect.?

[Oblotzky]

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Played around with animation, Oblivion V360

wao pogchamp

Is that an lz cls or just a random tkl?

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Jane V2, higher res attached below

Hypnotizingly beautiful.

Any chance of getting some Assembly Board Renders? Planck/Preonic, UniGo66, Pearl, ect.?

Yeah will get around to those in a few weeks or so. Also gonna render on Alice.

[Oblotzky]

Vote is over, 72% want Icon Arrows, 21% want Text Arrows, 7% don't give a ****.

Therefor:



Why: Pleases both sides, and now enables the purchase of Base Kit + Modifier Kit + Hagoromo Alphas to fill a 104key/TKL and a 65% simultaneously. Also 1u keys are cheapo. Base Kit now has 148 keys, pretty good still.

[dallman5]

Vote is over, 72% want Icon Arrows, 21% want Text Arrows, 7% don't give a ****.


Therefor:

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Why: Pleases both sides, and now enables the purchase of Base Kit + Modifier Kit + Hagoromo Alphas to fill a 104key/TKL and a 65% simultaneously. Also 1u keys are cheapo. Base Kit now has 148 keys, pretty good still.

Oblotzky is certified galaxy brain

[TheMnBN]

Vote is over, 72% want Icon Arrows, 21% want Text Arrows, 7% don't give a ****.

Therefor:

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Why: Pleases both sides, and now enables the purchase of Base Kit + Modifier Kit + Hagoromo Alphas to fill a 104key/TKL and a 65% simultaneously. Also 1u keys are cheapo. Base Kit now has 148 keys, pretty good still.

Holy compatibility! :eek:

[Ashardalon]

Vote is over, 72% want Icon Arrows, 21% want Text Arrows, 7% don't give a ****.

Therefor:

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Why: Pleases both sides, and now enables the purchase of Base Kit + Modifier Kit + Hagoromo Alphas to fill a 104key/TKL and a 65% simultaneously. Also 1u keys are cheapo. Base Kit now has 148 keys, pretty good still.

[AlcoholEnthusiast]

Vote is over, 72% want Icon Arrows, 21% want Text Arrows, 7% don't give a ****.

Therefor:

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Why: Pleases both sides, and now enables the purchase of Base Kit + Modifier Kit + Hagoromo Alphas to fill a 104key/TKL and a 65% simultaneously. Also 1u keys are cheapo. Base Kit now has 148 keys, pretty good still.

Big fan of this. Thanks Oblotsky. Now will only need 3 sets to fill 2 boards. V nice. Big brane move

[quitraging]

With the currently proposed kits, is it possible to have regular modifiers with ISO-UK support? It seems neither the Regular Modifiers kit or the NorDeUK kit contain the regular (non-monochrome) modifiers to achieve this. Return, LShift and AltGr come to mind.

[Poesjuh]

Includes 2 sets of arrows but doesn't include ISO in base set. I'm clueless now...

(I personally don't use it, but it just doesn't make sense to me )

[w3bb0]

Includes 2 sets of arrows but doesn't include ISO in base set. I'm clueless now...

(I personally don't use it, but it just doesn't make sense to me )

Yeah I use iso and found this a little disappointing, still looking forward to the set though!

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[Oblotzky]

With the currently proposed kits, is it possible to have regular modifiers with ISO-UK support? It seems neither the Regular Modifiers kit or the NorDeUK kit contain the regular (non-monochrome) modifiers to achieve this. Return, LShift and AltGr come to mind.

Regular Modifiers didn't exist in this IC at the time of creating the currently outdated NorDeUK kit render. They will be added once I update that.

Includes 2 sets of arrows but doesn't include ISO in base set. I'm clueless now...

(I personally don't use it, but it just doesn't make sense to me )

They are included in the NorDeUK kit.

[Poesjuh]

I know they're in Norde kit But I'm assuming that kit will be around $50 maybe?
Having a complete Norde kit is nice btw for those that use it, they have the opportunity to have the correct legends.
I just fail to understand why 2 sets of arrows is ok yet include the 4 basic iso keys isn't.

Just my 2 cents though, no need to change the kits for me

[Oblotzky]

Thank you for patiently awaiting the results of the data analysis. I curated the posts to sort out meme replies and a couple unrealistic/nonsensical orders (sorry mike, you'd probably order quite a few base kits for retail indeed, but I removed your order of 480 of them). Here are the results, which I deem fairly accurate:

Total order posts: 632




Full spread sheet with all kit quantities here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bB9cWPiPfLxQJJRZyQrTcFXt4bmpbrrNA6wKmVcUYBo/edit?usp=sharing

My takeaway: The current lineup of kits as proposed in the first pose are spot on. Git outweighed Regular Modifiers by a good bit, which surprises me. Possible factors for this: #1 R1 already exists with Regular Modifiers, so Git is new #2 Massdrop (where I took the 60% Regular and 40% Git number from the SA Oblivion group buy) consists of more 'normies', less enthusiasts who prefer something different. So if taken all future buyers into account, the preference might be more evened out. However due to the additional cost of having to buy Regular Modifiers separately I don't expect them to come even close to half the units of the Base Kit. Probably 25-30% of the Base Kit units while Monochrome makes up another 15-20%.

[Ashardalon]

However due to the additional cost of having to buy Regular Modifiers separately I don't expect them to come even close to half the units of the Base Kit. Probably 25-30% of the Base Kit units while Monochrome makes up another 15-20%.

In the first part of that statement, are you saying that due to the additional cost of the Regular Modifiers kit that a good portion of people aren't going to purchase it? If so, that's probably true. If the Base Kit comes with the Git Modifiers, that will be what I purchase.

[Oblotzky]

However due to the additional cost of having to buy Regular Modifiers separately I don't expect them to come even close to half the units of the Base Kit. Probably 25-30% of the Base Kit units while Monochrome makes up another 15-20%.

In the first part of that statement, are you saying that due to the additional cost of the Regular Modifiers kit that a good portion of people aren't going to purchase it? If so, that's probably true. If the Base Kit comes with the Git Modifiers, that will be what I purchase.

Yes, people that would normally go for Regular Modifiers will settle on the Git Modifiers because they are in the Base Kit, as they do not want to spend the extra money on the Regular Modifiers Kit in addition to the Git Base Kit.

[w3bb0]

Is there any chance we can get basic iso support in the main kit?

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[Puddsy]

Is there any chance we can get basic iso support in the main kit?

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no

[Ashardalon]

However due to the additional cost of having to buy Regular Modifiers separately I don't expect them to come even close to half the units of the Base Kit. Probably 25-30% of the Base Kit units while Monochrome makes up another 15-20%.

In the first part of that statement, are you saying that due to the additional cost of the Regular Modifiers kit that a good portion of people aren't going to purchase it? If so, that's probably true. If the Base Kit comes with the Git Modifiers, that will be what I purchase.

Yes, people that would normally go for Regular Modifiers will settle on the Git Modifiers because they are in the Base Kit, as they do not want to spend the extra money on the Regular Modifiers Kit in addition to the Git Base Kit.

Thanks for the clarification While I do like regular modifiers, I think the git base is unique and will allow for a bit of variety. I'm sure with the insane amount of responses on the April Fool's GB thread this will be an insane success.

[tex_live_utility]

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Thank you for patiently awaiting the results of the data analysis. I curated the posts to sort out meme replies and a couple unrealistic/nonsensical orders (sorry mike, you'd probably order quite a few base kits for retail indeed, but I removed your order of 480 of them). Here are the results, which I deem fairly accurate:

Total order posts: 632

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Full spread sheet with all kit quantities here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bB9cWPiPfLxQJJRZyQrTcFXt4bmpbrrNA6wKmVcUYBo/edit?usp=sharing

My takeaway: The current lineup of kits as proposed in the first pose are spot on. Git outweighed Regular Modifiers by a good bit, which surprises me. Possible factors for this: #1 R1 already exists with Regular Modifiers, so Git is new #2 Massdrop (where I took the 60% Regular and 40% Git number from the SA Oblivion group buy) consists of more 'normies', less enthusiasts who prefer something different. So if taken all future buyers into account, the preference might be more evened out. However due to the additional cost of having to buy Regular Modifiers separately I don't expect them to come even close to half the units of the Base Kit. Probably 25-30% of the Base Kit units while Monochrome makes up another 15-20%.

It's obviously more work, but ideally you'd look at the most frequent combinations, not just the most frequent kits.

[Oblotzky]

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Thank you for patiently awaiting the results of the data analysis. I curated the posts to sort out meme replies and a couple unrealistic/nonsensical orders (sorry mike, you'd probably order quite a few base kits for retail indeed, but I removed your order of 480 of them). Here are the results, which I deem fairly accurate:

Total order posts: 632

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Full spread sheet with all kit quantities here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bB9cWPiPfLxQJJRZyQrTcFXt4bmpbrrNA6wKmVcUYBo/edit?usp=sharing

My takeaway: The current lineup of kits as proposed in the first pose are spot on. Git outweighed Regular Modifiers by a good bit, which surprises me. Possible factors for this: #1 R1 already exists with Regular Modifiers, so Git is new #2 Massdrop (where I took the 60% Regular and 40% Git number from the SA Oblivion group buy) consists of more 'normies', less enthusiasts who prefer something different. So if taken all future buyers into account, the preference might be more evened out. However due to the additional cost of having to buy Regular Modifiers separately I don't expect them to come even close to half the units of the Base Kit. Probably 25-30% of the Base Kit units while Monochrome makes up another 15-20%.

It's obviously more work, but ideally you'd look at the most frequent combinations, not just the most frequent kits.

Could you elaborate? I basically added together the total amount of Git Modifiers sold by combining all Base Kits with Git legends, then all Modifier Kits (Tenkeyless, Winkeyless, Sixty and HHKB). Then did the same for Regular and Monochrome Modifiers, and from those 3 results I created the Pie chart. Seems pretty straight forward to me to figure out what modifier preference people have. Same for Alphas by adding all kits (Base and Assembly) that contain Oblivion Alphas plus the standalone Oblivion Alpha kits to compare to the same from Hagoromo.

Or do you mean something like "Hagoromo Alphas is more likely to be paired with Monochrome Modifiers than with Git or Regular" for example. Don't think that will really do anything though.

[nasp]

In the assembly section, can you clarify what you mean by Ergodox? I remember that there was an Assembly option that included Ergodox keys as well as some more r4 keys for boards with a more traditional r4 layout like the Boardwalk PCB. Does the Ergodox section in the pie chart also contain these Assembly orders? Thanks!

[Oblotzky]

In the assembly section, can you clarify what you mean by Ergodox? I remember that there was an Assembly option that included Ergodox keys as well as some more r4 keys for boards with a more traditional r4 layout like the Boardwalk PCB. Does the Ergodox section in the pie chart also contain these Assembly orders? Thanks!

For the Assembly pie chart, I added together the standalone kits for each layout. So Ergodox consists of

OBLIVIONV2_ASSEMBLY_ERGODOX_OBLIVION
OBLIVIONV2_ASSEMBLY_ERGODOX_OBLIVIONCADET
OBLIVIONV2_ASSEMBLY_ERGODOX_HAGOROMO
OBLIVIONV2_ASSEMBLY_ERGODOX_HAGOROMOCADET
OBLIVIONV2_ASSEMBLY_MODIFIERS_ERGODOX

the same for Ortholinear and 40bit. The all-in-one kits did not go into that chart as they are equally counting to all 3 kits.

[farmisen]

Promising a 10% discount, make people spent time to choose kits, sure it is a joke, not a f**king SCAM.

I have collected exactly 0 of any currency. Please elaborate how this qualifies as a Scam.

Sure! Checking wiki... oops a SCAM means "an attempt to defraud a person or group after first gaining their confidence", and I believe wiki lies since it DOES NOT mention that person must earns some money.

Sorry I'm wrong, you don't earn any money, defraud and waste our fools' time is no problem and nothing to do with a SCAM.

de·fraud

/dəˈfrôd/

verb

illegally obtain money from (someone) by deception.

"he used a false identity to defraud the bank of thousands of dollars"

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[maximize]

One caveat to go with the data is that it doesn't include responses from the big-brained people who weren't fooled by the post. I think it's fair to assume that those big-brained people would all purchase regular modifiers. That is all, thanks.

[Gati]

One caveat to go with the data is that it doesn't include responses from the big-brained people who weren't fooled by the post. I think it's fair to assume that those big-brained people would all purchase regular modifiers. That is all, thanks.

Basically this. Maybe start a poll on MD- after all that’s where this is gonna be sold

[OtherAndrew]

One caveat to go with the data is that it doesn't include responses from the big-brained people who weren't fooled by the post. I think it's fair to assume that those big-brained people would all purchase regular modifiers. That is all, thanks.

Basically this. Maybe start a poll on MD- after all that’s where this is gonna be sold

i think we all know that MD and big braned don't belong in the same sentence

[fatpolomanjr]

One caveat to go with the data is that it doesn't include responses from the big-brained people who weren't fooled by the post. I think it's fair to assume that those big-brained people would all purchase regular modifiers. That is all, thanks.

It would be balanced out by all the galaxy-brained git mods people who weren't fooled by the joke so put regular mods.

[Puddsy]

One caveat to go with the data is that it doesn't include responses from the big-brained people who weren't fooled by the post. I think it's fair to assume that those big-brained people would all purchase regular modifiers. That is all, thanks.

It would be balanced out by all the galaxy-brained git mods people who weren't fooled by the joke so put regular mods.

5d chess

[Krakyn]

Git outweighed Regular Modifiers by a good bit, which surprises me. Possible factors for this: #1 R1 already exists with Regular Modifiers, so Git is new #2 Massdrop (where I took the 60% Regular and 40% Git number from the SA Oblivion group buy) consists of more 'normies', less enthusiasts who prefer something different.

You shouldn't be too surprised You've made clear that Git modifiers would be used the in set for quite a while now. A number of people who don't like Git modifiers would have stopped following/visting the threads for this set a long time ago, and would not have voted in this poll. This surely accounts for some of the difference?

[fatpolomanjr]

You shouldn't be too surprised You've made clear that Git modifiers would be used the in set for quite a while now. A number of people who don't like Git modifiers would have stopped following/visting the threads for this set a long time ago, and would not have voted in this poll. This surely accounts for some of the difference?

Many seemed to stick around in time for the regular modifiers kit to be revealed. There's probably some difference as you say, but not as much of a difference as there would be by including the population of massdrop buyers.

[nug]

Were mod coloured tilde and pipe considered for the Monochrome and Regular kits? I know they're technically not mods but it would allow people to use them with Hagoromo alphas/cadet if they prefer those keys to be the same colour as mods.

[BserLarry]

One caveat to go with the data is that it doesn't include responses from the big-brained people who weren't fooled by the post. I think it's fair to assume that those big-brained people would all purchase regular modifiers. That is all, thanks.

Having a MD poll wouldn’t solve the problem. polls attracts people who are more ethusiastix to take the time to answer the poll vs those who are interested but less enthusiastic. (That’s why there’s always a huge percent of interested vs a v Low percent of those who indicated they are not interested in polls). Either way, data collection would be skewed and is not representative of the population who is going to buy the set (this is a problem commonly known as self selection bias)

[zizard]

pie charts  :vomit:

[Hokabuki]

Were mod coloured tilde and pipe considered for the Monochrome and Regular kits? I know they're technically not mods but it would allow people to use them with Hagoromo alphas/cadet if they prefer those keys to be the same colour as mods.

Good catch. I would also like this.

[psvntrm]

Can we buy this set already


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[sagadoi]

please add f-row in the mod

[fatpolomanjr]

Can we buy this set already

No. It's on massdrop, which has a set schedule for keyset releases. This one is in line for June as far as I know.

[sagadoi]

what about two base?
like git base and regular mod haragona base?

[Zambumon]

what about two base?

Not a good idea to add a second "standard" base kit.

The set currently has two base kits (Git and Assembly) because they don't overlap.

[wholypantalones]

However due to the additional cost of having to buy Regular Modifiers separately I don't expect them to come even close to half the units of the Base Kit. Probably 25-30% of the Base Kit units while Monochrome makes up another 15-20%.

In the first part of that statement, are you saying that due to the additional cost of the Regular Modifiers kit that a good portion of people aren't going to purchase it? If so, that's probably true. If the Base Kit comes with the Git Modifiers, that will be what I purchase.

Yes, people that would normally go for Regular Modifiers will settle on the Git Modifiers because they are in the Base Kit, as they do not want to spend the extra money on the Regular Modifiers Kit in addition to the Git Base Kit.

But we'll do a poll for text arrows and make other additions to the set, but still no budge on forcing those git modifiers in the base kit.

Nothing like having to settle on a $150+ set with mods you don't want when your other options are $250+ on mechmarket or just buy all the mod kits in this drop.