[IC] GMK Oblivion V2 - Launches June 4th 2019 on Drop.com

[AlcoholEnthusiast]

Hey man, loving this set

Just got one minor question regarding the kits

Assuming that I purchase
1x base set
1x regular modifiers
1x monochrome modifiers
2x hagomoro alphas
2x alternative function rows

There'll be certain keys that are only in base which are not present in any other keycap set to make this up to three 100% compatible sets, things like the navigation cluster, print, lock, pause, one set of arrow keys (As base includes 2) and the keys surrounding the numpad (With notable exceptions of Enter and Numlock).

Would it make sense to have a set which includes some of these keys so people can effectively build your own fullsize compat if they so wish from Hago alphas, modifier set, the theoretical makeup to 100% set?

That is correct. Base has enough mod keys + extra arrows so that Base + Mod + Alpha can cover one full board and one up to 65%. To cover another board over 60% you would need another base though.

[SuperDino]

Any updates now that GMK Eclipse is done?
So excited! Can't wait to match it with my PC Think6.5
Going for base+regular mods+hagoromo alphas.

Go Oblotzky!

[OracleKev]

Any updates now that GMK Eclipse is done?
So excited! Can't wait to match it with my PC Think6.5
Going for base+regular mods+hagoromo alphas.

Go Oblotzky!

Could this be right after SA Laser?  Fingers crossed! 

[Kaktus]

I know the NorDeUk kit is a maybe but what size is the shift/rebase button? Is it 1.25 or 1.75

Thanks so much. This kit is beautiful. Hope NorDeUk kit will make it.

[Oblotzky]

I know the NorDeUk kit is a maybe but what size is the shift/rebase button? Is it 1.25 or 1.75

Thanks so much. This kit is beautiful. Hope NorDeUk kit will make it.

1.25u, it's an ISO shift after all.

[fatpolomanjr]

Could this be right after SA Laser?  Fingers crossed! 

GMK Pulse is coming up too. I wonder if that or Oblivion will be first to run.

[sevenseacat]

SA Laser starts in a few hours, then Oblivion in June, then Pulse, then Serika.

[OracleKev]

SA Laser starts in a few hours, then Oblivion in June, then Pulse, then Serika.

Music to my ears 

[Kaktus]

Is there any chance you could include a 2U R4 Rebase Key (to be used as Shift)?

That would make this set perfect. 

[Oblotzky]

Update time: GMK Oblivion V2 will be available on Drop.com in June, right after SA Laser! I've requested pricing for all the kits from GMK and expect to have GB pricing available internally very soon for me to review. Colevrak and International (formerly known as NorDeUK) have been moved out of maybe and I expect these to be available in the drop. I might remove the Alt Graph keys from the International kit though (I requested pricing for with and without and will decide if the price difference is worth it). The MOQ for Colevrak and International will probably start at 75 units, so EU/weirdos, prepare your wallets please and prove to me that there is still enough demand for these layouts!

I will soon be adding Assembly based renders too (Ergodox/Planck).

Regarding VIM, I've added it for now, but am still trying to figure out who originated the molds. I'll be offering this kit once I've made sure I have proper permission to run it. So this one is technically a MAYBE kit.

[kolyz]

my wallet is ready.

[dorf]

”EU/weirdos, prepare your wallets please and prove to me that there is still enough demand for these layouts!”

Yes, sir!

[tronix_41]

wallet is ready, let alt gr in please.

[mimalik]

Damn it, I was hoping that it may take a bit more time. After SA Laser massacre, not sure my wallet can take another major hit. Time to sell a kidney.

[blizzara01]

SA Laser starts in a few hours, then Oblivion in June, then Pulse, then Serika.

Music to my ears 

Doesn't sound good on my wallet though.

[KaosJ]

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Update time: GMK Oblivion V2 will be available on Drop.com in June, right after SA Laser! I've requested pricing for all the kits from GMK and expect to have GB pricing available internally very soon for me to review. Colevrak and International (formerly known as NorDeUK) have been moved out of maybe and I expect these to be available in the drop. I might remove the Alt Graph keys from the International kit though (I requested pricing for with and without and will decide if the price difference is worth it). The MOQ for Colevrak and International will probably start at 75 units, so EU/weirdos, prepare your wallets please and prove to me that there is still enough demand for these layouts!

I will soon be adding Assembly based renders too (Ergodox/Planck).

Regarding VIM, I've added it for now, but am still trying to figure out who originated the molds. I'll be offering this kit once I've made sure I have proper permission to run it. So this one is technically a MAYBE kit.

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Cool cool cool cool, June here we come!

[thornkin]

Excited to see the Vim kit.  Hopefully you can track down sufficient permission.  Thanks for pursuing this!

Laser ALT sporting red Sky Pandas

[Oblotzky]

Just wanted to share a nice render

[Moridin]

Any news on using Drops EU warehouse to avoid +30% customs?

[Oblotzky]

Any news on using Drops EU warehouse to avoid +30% customs?

(Mass)Drop prices are VAT exclusive, you wouldn't be avoiding VAT with a EU warehouse, they'd charge it additional then. You only save the slightly cheaper shipping (16$ from US is pretty good, you'd pay like 10$ within EU still), and whatever processing fee your customs office charges for handling the package. You wouldn't be saving 30%.

[Puddsy]

Any news on using Drops EU warehouse to avoid +30% customs?

(Mass)Drop prices are VAT exclusive, you wouldn't be avoiding VAT with a EU warehouse, they'd charge it additional then. You only save the slightly cheaper shipping (16$ from US is pretty good, you'd pay like 10$ within EU still), and whatever processing fee your customs office charges for handling the package. You wouldn't be saving 30%.

lol euros

[ctrlshiftba]

Looks great excited for this one!

[Oblotzky]

Don't let your dreams be just dreams.

[skmn]

so EU/weirdos, prepare your wallets please and prove to me that there is still enough demand for these layouts!

I will probably get a few international kits just to help it succeed. Really hope it hits MOQ since it's a beautiful set!

[KaosJ]

Any news on using Drops EU warehouse to avoid +30% customs?

(Mass)Drop prices are VAT exclusive, you wouldn't be avoiding VAT with a EU warehouse, they'd charge it additional then. You only save the slightly cheaper shipping (16$ from US is pretty good, you'd pay like 10$ within EU still), and whatever processing fee your customs office charges for handling the package. You wouldn't be saving 30%.

lol euros

IF Massdrop will start to use a EU warehouse, don't we also NOT PAY the whole logistic and shipping between EU and US (also there isn't a small import tax between eu-us which we also stop paying?)
Also, if MD opens the eu warehouse, don't they also pick a country with low VAT? (e.g. 18%/19% vat). Yeah we pay VAT, but should be lower than usual and without custom import tax (e.g. italy has custom import tax + VAT + whatever customs or couriers feel to charge in that moment additionally). 

[rbb]

Could you post some information about the hagoromo colors?

I'm considering getting a set of those by themselves and match them up with modifiers from a different set.

[Oblotzky]

Could you post some information about the hagoromo colors?

I'm considering getting a set of those by themselves and match them up with modifiers from a different set.

Base color is CP from GMK's standard colors, the legends are GR9, which is the custom gray mixed for the gray alphas of round 1, which was then also used in GMK Space Cadet.

[Zambumon]

Could you post some information about the hagoromo colors?

I'm considering getting a set of those by themselves and match them up with modifiers from a different set.

The set is color matched to these Signature Plastics colorchips, except Hagaromo, which is GMK's CP

[MoarCoffeePlzzz]

Drop the numpad and make it a kit. Get that base price down boi.

[Oblotzky]

Drop the numpad and make it a kit. Get that base price down boi.

We have 13 kits already, I'll pass. By the same logic I should remove the specialties too. (Mass)Drop has a huge audience of 'normies' who will need that numpad, they need just as much love as the non-standard enthusiasts.

[fractl]

Being a comparative newcomer to this hobby, I wasn't familiar with this keyset in any detail prior to the April Fools post.  Despite it being a purposeless exercise the motivation for which still perplexes me, I at least assumed that someone wouldn't fabricate something that complex unless, at the very least, it provided a accurate representation and preview of what the drop was really going to offer.  I was very pleased to see that there was an option that would allow me to outfit a Preonic without spending lots of money on keycaps I would never use, and have waited for information on the proper group buy.  Now, I see that the previous 'joke' was not only a pointless exercise, but it in no way accurately represented what I would be able to do in regard to my Preonic.  Yeah, sure it was a 'joke', so I shouldn't have based my expectations on it, but it still boggles my mind that someone would go through all that effort just to produce a representation of a GB that makes the real group buy disappointing in comparison.  Having to justify the time and expense that goes into fixating on little pieces of plastic that go on a keyboard is enough work given all the more serious concerns in life, but this just makes me truly wonder why I bother.

[Oblotzky]

Being a comparative newcomer to this hobby, I wasn't familiar with this keyset in any detail prior to the April Fools post.  Despite it being a purposeless exercise the motivation for which still perplexes me, I at least assumed that someone wouldn't fabricate something that complex unless, at the very least, it provided a accurate representation and preview of what the drop was really going to offer.  I was very pleased to see that there was an option that would allow me to outfit a Preonic without spending lots of money on keycaps I would never use, and have waited for information on the proper group buy.  Now, I see that the previous 'joke' was not only a pointless exercise, but it in no way accurately represented what I would be able to do in regard to my Preonic.  Yeah, sure it was a 'joke', so I shouldn't have based my expectations on it, but it still boggles my mind that someone would go through all that effort just to produce a representation of a GB that makes the real group buy disappointing in comparison.  Having to justify the time and expense that goes into fixating on little pieces of plastic that go on a keyboard is enough work given all the more serious concerns in life, but this just makes me truly wonder why I bother.

Heyo, sorry that the April Fools disappointed you, that was clearly not my intention. I just wanted to do something absurd/crazy for a day by dropping all rules that I have to abide by while creating this keyset and just dream up what the GB could look like if there were no such limits. Just like how tech companies ignore the technological limits of today and dream up Holodeck projects or otherwise unrealistic products. They were never meant to be a representation of what the company actually brings to market later in the year.

It may have seemed like a 'pointless exercise' to you, but it was actually quite helpful in figuring out peoples preferences to Alpha colors and Modifiers style, and proved that my approach of having a Base Kit with Gray Alphas and Git Modifiers was the right way to go, see https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99174.msg2745200#msg2745200.

You were not alone in voicing negative feedback, which was to be expected, but seeing that there were plenty of people enjoying the project, and what I was able to gather from the responses, I feel comfortable in saying that it was a good April Fools and don't regret doing it.

Thank you for your thoughts on this.

[Zambumon]

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Just like how tech companies ignore the technological limits of today and dream up Holodeck projects or otherwise unrealistic products.
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[Oblotzky]

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Just like how tech companies ignore the technological limits of today and dream up Holodeck projects or otherwise unrealistic products.
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Sorry I forgot about Magic Leap there for a second

[Puddsy]

Being a comparative newcomer to this hobby, I wasn't familiar with this keyset in any detail prior to the April Fools post.  Despite it being a purposeless exercise the motivation for which still perplexes me, I at least assumed that someone wouldn't fabricate something that complex unless, at the very least, it provided a accurate representation and preview of what the drop was really going to offer.  I was very pleased to see that there was an option that would allow me to outfit a Preonic without spending lots of money on keycaps I would never use, and have waited for information on the proper group buy.  Now, I see that the previous 'joke' was not only a pointless exercise, but it in no way accurately represented what I would be able to do in regard to my Preonic.  Yeah, sure it was a 'joke', so I shouldn't have based my expectations on it, but it still boggles my mind that someone would go through all that effort just to produce a representation of a GB that makes the real group buy disappointing in comparison.  Having to justify the time and expense that goes into fixating on little pieces of plastic that go on a keyboard is enough work given all the more serious concerns in life, but this just makes me truly wonder why I bother.

put your thesaurus away

[dvorcol]

Being a comparative newcomer to this hobby, I wasn't familiar with this keyset in any detail prior to the April Fools post.  Despite it being a purposeless exercise the motivation for which still perplexes me, I at least assumed that someone wouldn't fabricate something that complex unless, at the very least, it provided a accurate representation and preview of what the drop was really going to offer.  I was very pleased to see that there was an option that would allow me to outfit a Preonic without spending lots of money on keycaps I would never use, and have waited for information on the proper group buy.  Now, I see that the previous 'joke' was not only a pointless exercise, but it in no way accurately represented what I would be able to do in regard to my Preonic.  Yeah, sure it was a 'joke', so I shouldn't have based my expectations on it, but it still boggles my mind that someone would go through all that effort just to produce a representation of a GB that makes the real group buy disappointing in comparison.  Having to justify the time and expense that goes into fixating on little pieces of plastic that go on a keyboard is enough work given all the more serious concerns in life, but this just makes me truly wonder why I bother.

put your thesaurus away

Now now.  No need to be contumelious.

[monkt]

Being a comparative newcomer to this hobby, I wasn't familiar with this keyset in any detail prior to the April Fools post.  Despite it being a purposeless exercise the motivation for which still perplexes me, I at least assumed that someone wouldn't fabricate something that complex unless, at the very least, it provided a accurate representation and preview of what the drop was really going to offer.  I was very pleased to see that there was an option that would allow me to outfit a Preonic without spending lots of money on keycaps I would never use, and have waited for information on the proper group buy.  Now, I see that the previous 'joke' was not only a pointless exercise, but it in no way accurately represented what I would be able to do in regard to my Preonic.  Yeah, sure it was a 'joke', so I shouldn't have based my expectations on it, but it still boggles my mind that someone would go through all that effort just to produce a representation of a GB that makes the real group buy disappointing in comparison.  Having to justify the time and expense that goes into fixating on little pieces of plastic that go on a keyboard is enough work given all the more serious concerns in life, but this just makes me truly wonder why I bother.

put your thesaurus away

Now now.  No need to be contumelious.

Yeah, there’s not actually any big words there. We’re just not used to people being articulate around here. Cut the guy some slack for being able to communicate in complete, meaningful sentences. Whether or not you agree with his complaint is a whole different story.

[konstantin]

Hey Oblotzky, would you consider changing the Page↵Up and Page↵Down legends to Pg Up and Pg Dn? With this small change, all the legends in the Git base kit would be single-line, which looks cleaner imo.

The Regular mods kit has Num↵Lock and Caps↵Lock (stepped). You could replace these legends with Num and Caps, respectively, to be consistent with the above changes. Finally, while you're at it, consider using Scroll instead of Lock, since the latter is a bit ambiguous: there are three Locks on the board, but only one Scroll Lock.

This is how Janglad did the legends on his recent sets, and I think it works and looks great.

[lady_renari]

Definitely in for the monochrome mods.  Might get a base kit too, but not sure on that yet. 

[Oblotzky]

Hey Oblotzky, would you consider changing the Page↵Up and Page↵Down legends to Pg Up and Pg Dn? With this small change, all the legends in the Git base kit would be single-line, which looks cleaner imo.

The Regular mods kit has Num↵Lock and Caps↵Lock (stepped). You could replace these legends with Num and Caps, respectively, to be consistent with the above changes. Finally, while you're at it, consider using Scroll instead of Lock, since the latter is a bit ambiguous: there are three Locks on the board, but only one Scroll Lock.

This is how Janglad did the legends on his recent sets, and I think it works and looks great.

I'd change it to Scroll Lock if anything, since Num Lock and Caps Lock are written out too that would make sense. However I prefer those 3 buttons at the top to be all single line, so it's a bit of a predicament. I don't like just Caps on a 1.75 key when there's enough room for the rest of the legend. It's one of those things that I ponder on for nights but end up making no final decision on really.

Page Up and Page Down will remain written out, I dislike abbreviations. And a written out single line could only be either Page on both or Up and Down, but neither would make sense.

[tex_live_utility]

Minor semantic quibble: "VIM" is more correctly written "Vim", even though it's technically a contraction, like "scuba", "radar", and "laser".

Writing "VIM" is like writing "Alps" as "ALPS" or "ALPs".

[Oblotzky]

Minor semantic quibble: "VIM" is more correctly written "Vim", even though it's technically a contraction, like "scuba", "radar", and "laser".

Writing "VIM" is like writing "Alps" as "ALPS" or "ALPs".

Yeah I should change that, thought about it but was lazy changing.

[DePulse]

Are these looking to drop early june? 

[enrique.aliaga]

Are these looking to drop early june? 

Yes. As soon as SA Laser is over.


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[quitraging]

Alt Gr is a must.

[Puddsy]

Alt Gr is a must.

but it does the same thing whether or not you have the legend

[Oblotzky]

Alt Gr is a must.

but it does the same thing whether or not you have the legend

Then what's the point of custom keysets at all.

[Puddsy]

Alt Gr is a must.

but it does the same thing whether or not you have the legend

Then what's the point of custom keysets at all.

red and blank is all we ever need

[Zambumon]

Alt Gr is a must.

but it does the same thing whether or not you have the legend

NORDEUK has tertiary legends. Therefore, the inclussion of Alt Gr is a must.

[Kaktus]

@Oblotzky do you already know if there will be moq's on the kits? Cause Mito from SA Laser said that his kit that's currently on sale doesn't have any MOQ's to reach. Every kit is going to be produced regardless of the quantity.