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Title: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) New Kits Posted!
Post by: ABrotherThatIsUndercover on Fri, 04 October 2019, 20:21:04
Before I get to renders, I wanted to mention something. I found out earlier today that Candykeys is running a colorway that's kinda similar to this (GMK Apollo). I've been working on this for almost 2 months, and they've been working on their set for a while as well, and neither of the parties involved knew about the others set before hand  :D

Update 12/23: More new Base Kit/Spacebar Kit Mockups!

(https://i.imgur.com/PexxHA5.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/42JYyHM.jpg)

The idea for this set is Blue-Grey, thats it. No Accents, just Blue-Grey. Not having accents will allow me to add ISO support into the base, and should keep the spacebar kit nice and cheap (or allow me to add very basic 40's support into it).

Thanks to my friend 159, we have a real world analog of what the set will look like, using WS2 as the color for the legends.

(https://i.imgur.com/1sebJRq.jpg)

And here are some renders on boards! Thanks to Yuktsi and 159 for the models of the 910, Sirius, and Kendo.

(https://i.imgur.com/y8Ryqu0.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Pjftvo1.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/JZOVbb1.jpg)

I'm open to feedback, but I don't intend to stray too crazy far from this idea.

I don't want to rush this set to GB and end up with something that fails to hit MOQ, if this runs, ya'll will know! 

Thanks for looking!

Update #1 (10/14):

We have our vendors!

US: ProjectKeyboard
EU: MyKeyboard
AUS/Oceania: Dailyclack

We still don't have a projected time for the group buy,  but I will keep ya'll updated!
Title: Re: GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: ctrlshiftba on Fri, 04 October 2019, 20:26:29
No accents is kinda disappointing. I wonder if the majority of buyers prefer ISO over having accents. Probability not.

A nice complimentary blue accent and the a secondary accent like pinked or red or maybe yellow?  and this would be amazing, like a blue version of dolche
Title: Re: GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: Mcnos on Fri, 04 October 2019, 20:26:44
This would be too close to Denim, that's just my two cents.
Title: Re: GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: eskimojo on Fri, 04 October 2019, 20:28:11
Looks really nice, great job UB  :thumb:

On the subject of ISO support, you have almost complete ISO UK but are missing the '@ key on R3 (this mistake was made in GMK Olivia and almost made it into GMK Merlin). Any chance that could be added?

I'm a big fan of this set though :D
Title: Re: GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: ABrotherThatIsUndercover on Fri, 04 October 2019, 20:58:32
Looks really nice, great job UB  :thumb:

On the subject of ISO support, you have almost complete ISO UK but are missing the '@ key on R3 (this mistake was made in GMK Olivia and almost made it into GMK Merlin). Any chance that could be added?

I'm a big fan of this set though :D

Updated Render with proper ISO support  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: eskimojo on Fri, 04 October 2019, 21:06:41
Looks really nice, great job UB  :thumb:

On the subject of ISO support, you have almost complete ISO UK but are missing the '@ key on R3 (this mistake was made in GMK Olivia and almost made it into GMK Merlin). Any chance that could be added?

I'm a big fan of this set though :D

Updated Render with proper ISO support  :thumb:
Perfect, thanks my dude :D

I've noticed the ISO part looks like it's one row too far down, but I think that's a result of the other mods being a row too far up (r1 of extra keys in line with r4 0 and 00).

Minor detail that I doubt would confuse many, but just thought I'd raise it :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: xchangmanx on Fri, 04 October 2019, 21:15:14
+1

 :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: mrkantz on Fri, 04 October 2019, 21:31:00
Looks nice, but too close to other sets that just ran/running for my money

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: ABrotherThatIsUndercover on Fri, 04 October 2019, 21:34:20
Looks really nice, great job UB  :thumb:

On the subject of ISO support, you have almost complete ISO UK but are missing the '@ key on R3 (this mistake was made in GMK Olivia and almost made it into GMK Merlin). Any chance that could be added?

I'm a big fan of this set though :D

Updated Render with proper ISO support  :thumb:
Perfect, thanks my dude :D

I've noticed the ISO part looks like it's one row too far down, but I think that's a result of the other mods being a row too far up (r1 of extra keys in line with r4 0 and 00).

Minor detail that I doubt would confuse many, but just thought I'd raise it :)

Fixed once again, thanks for the critiques!  :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: eskimojo on Fri, 04 October 2019, 21:40:12
Looks really nice, great job UB  :thumb:

On the subject of ISO support, you have almost complete ISO UK but are missing the '@ key on R3 (this mistake was made in GMK Olivia and almost made it into GMK Merlin). Any chance that could be added?

I'm a big fan of this set though :D

Updated Render with proper ISO support  :thumb:
Perfect, thanks my dude :D

I've noticed the ISO part looks like it's one row too far down, but I think that's a result of the other mods being a row too far up (r1 of extra keys in line with r4 0 and 00).

Minor detail that I doubt would confuse many, but just thought I'd raise it :)

Fixed once again, thanks for the critiques!  :D
Amazing, speediest fixes I've seen ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: chakkii on Sat, 05 October 2019, 07:44:26
I really like the simplicity of this set, but some sort of accents would be nice in a seperate kit, dont know about novelties tho since it is so simple :)
btw the name of this set is German so there has to be a German kit or at least Norde kit or anything right? :) would happily join :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: upas on Sat, 05 October 2019, 09:24:28
I like this a lot better than GMK Denim, and I also don’t think accents are necessary. If you were to add accents though, I’d suggest white.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: V. Vega on Sat, 05 October 2019, 10:07:05
I want it, very much, right now.
Denim had that ugly brown in it.
I like this as it is, blue, simple, WS2. Nice work <3
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: xchangmanx on Sat, 05 October 2019, 12:14:55
 :eek: Damn this looks good.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: wholypantalones on Sat, 05 October 2019, 13:26:22
Ditch the icon mods, throw in some creamy white alphas as an alternative to the blue alphas and you've got a winner.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: Mcnos on Sat, 05 October 2019, 13:44:23
Ditch the icon mods, throw in some creamy white alphas as an alternative to the blue alphas and you've got a winner.

Something like this.

I like the color of the blue alphas though, would swap with the modifiers.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: ABrotherThatIsUndercover on Sat, 05 October 2019, 14:13:56
Ditch the icon mods, throw in some creamy white alphas as an alternative to the blue alphas and you've got a winner.

Something like this.

I like the color of the blue alphas though, would swap with the modifiers.

I messed around with the idea of a white alphas kit, and personally I believe that it strays too far from my original ideas for the set, so that will most likely not be happening. I will play around with different mod types a bit however.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: wholypantalones on Sat, 05 October 2019, 17:02:24
Ditch the icon mods, throw in some creamy white alphas as an alternative to the blue alphas and you've got a winner.

Something like this.

I like the color of the blue alphas though, would swap with the modifiers.

I messed around with the idea of a white alphas kit, and personally I believe that it strays too far from my original ideas for the set, so that will most likely not be happening. I will play around with different mod types a bit however.

I'd love this set without the icon mods then.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: MMKB on Sun, 06 October 2019, 00:59:49
Clean looking set! Ever considered excluding the num pad keys from the base kit? I’m curious about the percentage of people who would need those keys
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: Mcnos on Sun, 06 October 2019, 01:02:18
Clean looking set! Ever considered excluding the num pad keys from the base kit? I’m curious about the percentage of people who would need those keys

From what I've seen so far, about 1/4th or 25% of the base kit sales have added numpad as a purchase
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: ABrotherThatIsUndercover on Sun, 06 October 2019, 11:47:23
Clean looking set! Ever considered excluding the num pad keys from the base kit? I’m curious about the percentage of people who would need those keys

I will not be removing numpad from base, as from all the times I've seen if you still price it at 250 MOQ, it makes it significantly more expensive for people who *do* want the numpad, as opposed to barely more expensive for people who don't. My goal for this set is to be affordable for all, and removing numpad from base will go against that idea.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: AJM on Sun, 06 October 2019, 12:51:16
I like the simple approach with tasteful colours and no accents.  :thumb:

A NorDe kit would be good, though.

(Speaking of which: What bothers me with GMK NorDe kits, are all the tertiary legends (especially in the number row). Not only do I find them ugly, I also usually reprogram these to key combinations that are easier to reach. But I guess that's how the molds are and is not easy to change?)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 06 October 2019, 15:03:48
Clean looking set! Ever considered excluding the num pad keys from the base kit? I’m curious about the percentage of people who would need those keys

I will not be removing numpad from base, as from all the times I've seen if you still price it at 250 MOQ, it makes it significantly more expensive for people who *do* want the numpad, as opposed to barely more expensive for people who don't. My goal for this set is to be affordable for all, and removing numpad from base will go against that idea.

As a numpad user, I much appreciate that line of thinking. It would be nice if GMK's setup allowed splitting without consequence, but their per-kit flat costs have more impact on the price now more than ever with set costs going so low. Good news is we have sets like Camping and Crimson Cadet showing that you can have low prices with numpads in your custom color sets, and overall the trend seems to be acceptably low pricing for sets with numpads, based on what I've seen looking back a few months.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: juliandoucette on Mon, 07 October 2019, 18:02:25
I'm interested :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: parkedr on Tue, 08 October 2019, 07:31:51
So many good blue-ish sets lately! I'm interested.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: CandyKeys on Thu, 10 October 2019, 13:56:26
Just dropping by as we see we got mentioned :)

The set we posted is Apollo, it is not ours however, check the OG designer here: https://www.reddit.com/r/keycapdesigners/comments/d7mvjh/feedback_gmk_apollo/

He has all the novelties and stuff done already, you will have to discuss with him :) Its a homage to the Apollo missions.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: adpbsc on Thu, 10 October 2019, 14:19:23
Clean looking set! Ever considered excluding the num pad keys from the base kit? I’m curious about the percentage of people who would need those keys

I will not be removing numpad from base, as from all the times I've seen if you still price it at 250 MOQ, it makes it significantly more expensive for people who *do* want the numpad, as opposed to barely more expensive for people who don't. My goal for this set is to be affordable for all, and removing numpad from base will go against that idea.

Excellent, just what I wanted to hear. If there's a NorDEUK kit, count me in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey)
Post by: ABrotherThatIsUndercover on Thu, 10 October 2019, 17:44:59
Just dropping by as we see we got mentioned :)

The set we posted is Apollo, it is not ours however, check the OG designer here: https://www.reddit.com/r/keycapdesigners/comments/d7mvjh/feedback_gmk_apollo/

He has all the novelties and stuff done already, you will have to discuss with him :) Its a homage to the Apollo missions.

Hi! Me and him had a little chat and realized that our sets are different enough that there isn't really any overlap, so all's good :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) Vendors Announced!
Post by: ABrotherThatIsUndercover on Mon, 14 October 2019, 03:56:58
Bumping to let ya'll know that we have chosen our vendors for the set!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) Vendors Announced! IC Form Added!
Post by: ABrotherThatIsUndercover on Fri, 18 October 2019, 23:30:22
Hey ya'll, bumping to let ya'll know that I've added an IC form to BlauGrau, please fill it out if you're interested in the set!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) Vendors Announced! IC Form Added!
Post by: mrpetrov on Sat, 19 October 2019, 00:06:11
Why isn't EasyE one of the choices in the IC? He was the best of the band.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) Vendors Announced! IC Form Added!
Post by: ABrotherThatIsUndercover on Sat, 19 October 2019, 07:05:39
Why isn't EasyE one of the choices in the IC? He was the best of the band.

(https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/5a12619e2c047947fb7ec395/3x)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) Vendors Announced! IC Form Added!
Post by: MdotMaxson on Sat, 26 October 2019, 03:38:39
Everytime I scroll through updates in interest check and I see the name blaugrue I cringe twice.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) Vendors Announced! IC Form Added!
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Tue, 19 November 2019, 20:08:28
I bought Denim, so I won't be buying this.
If this had come out first and was cheaper (not hard to accomplish with OCO prices), I would have bought it though.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) Vendors Announced! IC Form Added!
Post by: roguesystem087 on Tue, 19 November 2019, 22:18:25
epic.... will be waiting for the GB XD
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) Vendors Announced! IC Form Added!
Post by: _senya on Tue, 19 November 2019, 23:10:31
I bought Denim already, but somehow I like this one better. Depending on the price might get this one too. The basic set looks very nice already, no accent color needed.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) Vendors Announced! IC Form Added!
Post by: Starston3 on Tue, 17 December 2019, 21:14:25
Would you consider adding two 1.5u Super and two 1u Alt keys to the base for tsangan compat for mac users. similar to that of GMK minimal?

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) Vendors Announced! IC Form Added!
Post by: ABrotherThatIsUndercover on Mon, 23 December 2019, 19:22:56
Would you consider adding two 1.5u Super and two 1u Alt keys to the base for tsangan compat for mac users. similar to that of GMK minimal?

(Attachment Link)

This is something that I will take into consideration!

Also, bumping to let ya'll know that I have updated the kits based on form feedback, this isn't final of course, so please give me feedback if you have it!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) New Kits Posted!
Post by: OBL17 on Mon, 23 December 2019, 20:56:48
to me this just looks like gmk nord with no colors. kind of meh in my opinion
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) New Kits Posted!
Post by: CustomerSupport on Mon, 23 December 2019, 22:21:09
Gorgeous set; very clean and professional, but not bland or over-done.

Only thing I'd add would be some 1.5u Super keys for HHKB layouts.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) New Kits Posted!
Post by: yui_ on Wed, 25 December 2019, 05:41:47
this would be a must buy for me with text+icon mods. great work UB!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) New Kits Posted!
Post by: DanBe on Wed, 25 December 2019, 07:03:20
Love it, subbed
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) New Kits Posted!
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Fri, 27 December 2019, 11:43:11
Dagnabit, I have Mizu. I like it. I have Denim coming. I'll probably like it.
But I really really want this set. And i don't even like blue for keycaps. I'm not joking. This is just the correct color combo for a blue set. It's the right one.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) New Kits Posted!
Post by: break on Fri, 27 December 2019, 14:12:57
I'm pretty sure I'm about to build a board to match this set. Can't wait.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) New Kits Posted!
Post by: _senya on Mon, 09 March 2020, 20:06:34
This was quiet for couple of months already. Any news?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) New Kits Posted!
Post by: huey on Sun, 10 May 2020, 03:02:13
Here to bump! I hope this project become stale and die  :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) New Kits Posted!
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sun, 10 May 2020, 03:29:29
Here to bump! I hope this project become stale and die  :(

You can buy it here already https://www.originativeco.com/products/denim

Not pocking at this point the thread creator. GMK Denim got probably not enough traction and it flew under the radar for the most people.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) New Kits Posted!
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Sun, 10 May 2020, 16:46:15
Here to bump! I hope this project become stale and die  :(

You can buy it here already https://www.originativeco.com/products/denim

Not pocking at this point the thread creator. GMK Denim got probably not enough traction and it flew under the radar for the most people.


To be honest, GMK Denim looks whack (not good) on the OCO website.
In person, it's really really nice. It's been on my Jane since I got it and hasn't come off.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) New Kits Posted!
Post by: dallman5 on Sun, 10 May 2020, 17:44:11
To be honest, GMK Denim looks whack (not good) on the OCO website.
In person, it's really really nice. It's been on my Jane since I got it and hasn't come off.

Agreed! I sat out of the GB because of that. I think the legends in the renders look way more yellow than they do in real life. So happy I could grab an extra, it’s easily a top three set for me  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) New Kits Posted!
Post by: mta on Sun, 10 May 2020, 18:38:14
Colorwise, Denim is great -- but I passed on it (and continue to pass on it) due to the novelty accent enter key -- would have preferred a regular gold/brown enter accent.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) New Kits Posted!
Post by: ABrotherThatIsUndercover on Tue, 12 May 2020, 04:23:40
Here to bump! I hope this project become stale and die  :(

You can buy it here already https://www.originativeco.com/products/denim

Not pocking at this point the thread creator. GMK Denim got probably not enough traction and it flew under the radar for the most people.

Yea, the reason I ultimately decided not to continue with the set in this incarnation is because Denim ended up looking pretty similar to my vision for BlauGrau, and looks really good, so I decided to put the set on hold/move onto other things so that I didn't step on toes.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK BlauGrau (Blue-Grey) New Kits Posted!
Post by: ABrotherThatIsUndercover on Tue, 12 May 2020, 17:57:53
I'm going to go ahead and lock this thread as the project in this form isn't going to happen and if I want to bring it back in it a different form, I'll make a different thread. Thanks for the support and feedback throughout this whole process ya'll :thumb: