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Offline JPoc

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | April 13th - May 14th
« Reply #50 on: Wed, 12 May 2021, 10:55:03 »
Orders complete. Let’s gooo.
EDIT: real nervous about my artisan though

This is defo my favorite with these sorts of colors! I really like the artisan.

Ended up getting the Alphas, TKL, and Novelties. Now the wait begins. 

<3

Such a great set & colorscheme!
I cannot wait for a year.  :D

I ordered also the Ortho/40s set.
As this is my first GB: What happens, if it does not reach MOQ?
Should I switch to an alternative kit?

There will be extras, with that considered Ortho/40s and THOK only need a tiny push so they should make it. Only Ergo is not clear yet.

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | April 13th - May 14th
« Reply #51 on: Wed, 12 May 2021, 14:06:58 »
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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | April 13th - May 14th
« Reply #52 on: Wed, 12 May 2021, 19:48:45 »
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Okay, I am 50% sure you're a robot.

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | April 13th - May 14th
« Reply #53 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 08:36:46 »

Such a great set & colorscheme!
I cannot wait for a year.  :D

I ordered also the Ortho/40s set.
As this is my first GB: What happens, if it does not reach MOQ?
Should I switch to an alternative kit?

There will be extras, with that considered Ortho/40s and THOK only need a tiny push so they should make it. Only Ergo is not clear yet.

Ergo also pls

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | April 13th - May 14th
« Reply #54 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 09:31:11 »
Such a great set & colorscheme!
I cannot wait for a year.  :D

I ordered also the Ortho/40s set.
As this is my first GB: What happens, if it does not reach MOQ?
Should I switch to an alternative kit?

There will be extras, with that considered Ortho/40s and THOK only need a tiny push so they should make it. Only Ergo is not clear yet.

Hey, are there any news on the sales?
I'm thinking about buying an extra kit just to make sure those beautilful colours match in the end, just in case Orthos stay behind. ^^

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | April 13th - May 14th
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 13:14:15 »
Hey, are there any news on the sales?
I'm thinking about buying an extra kit just to make sure those beautilful colours match in the end, just in case Orthos stay behind. ^^

Everything made it so far except ergo considering extras!

Will post the final numbers when I have them.

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | April 13th - May 14th
« Reply #56 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 17:26:43 »
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Okay, I am 50% sure you're a robot.

Not a robot. I've spoken to him privately


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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | April 13th - May 14th
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 22:49:22 »
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Okay, I am 50% sure you're a robot.

Not a robot. I've spoken to him privately

I have no real basis, but you have star on ur profile, so I'll believe you.

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | April 13th - May 14th
« Reply #58 on: Tue, 18 May 2021, 01:44:01 »
Final orders



More
<-- without extras
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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | April 13th - May 14th
« Reply #59 on: Tue, 18 May 2021, 05:05:05 »
CONGRATS! SA sets don't usually do too well, but this killed it! Nice job throughout IC and GB! Well deserved  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | April 13th - May 14th
« Reply #60 on: Tue, 18 May 2021, 05:17:19 »
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAhhhhh BOiiz we made it with extras, 40s is in

now then... convex 40s bars gb when?

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | April 13th - May 14th
« Reply #61 on: Tue, 18 May 2021, 07:32:04 »
Next year can't arrive fast enough.

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | April 13th - May 14th
« Reply #62 on: Tue, 18 May 2021, 10:57:46 »
Thank you all so much for the support! I couldn't be happier.

I appreciate everyone that contributed to making this a successful GB.

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | April 13th - May 14th
« Reply #63 on: Wed, 19 May 2021, 06:26:23 »
Thank you all so much for the support! I couldn't be happier.

I appreciate everyone that contributed to making this a successful GB.

Thanks for the purdy set. Do you have discord where we can receive quick updates?

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | April 13th - May 14th
« Reply #64 on: Wed, 19 May 2021, 09:49:02 »
Thanks for the purdy set. Do you have discord where we can receive quick updates?

I don't at the moment

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | April 13th - May 14th
« Reply #65 on: Wed, 19 May 2021, 18:43:19 »
Thanks for the purdy set. Do you have discord where we can receive quick updates?

I don't at the moment

That's cool, guess I'm putting this GB thread on notify.

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | GB Closed
« Reply #66 on: Fri, 21 May 2021, 02:24:47 »
Very happy that the 40s kit made it. I appreciate vendors buying out to MOQ so that niche users can get their kits made. Can't wait to build my polycarb boards with this!

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | GB Closed
« Reply #67 on: Tue, 22 June 2021, 10:55:20 »
Hey everyone! Wanted to let you know that invoices have been paid, and that SP expects to ship this set in August 2022, so around three months later than their earliest previous estimate.

Also made a new discord if you want to get updates there: https://discord.gg/PzqFwnFC3v

Will keep you updated.

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« Reply #68 on: Tue, 22 June 2021, 11:56:40 »
Thanks for the update.  This set is so special that I am trying to find the correct board for this to live on.  I am buying a board to match a set, not the other way round.  A deep brown ergo would be perfect.

I have this coming which might just work
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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | GB Closed
« Reply #69 on: Tue, 22 June 2021, 15:20:34 »
Not many nice brown boards around  :-X tbh don't see any at the moment. Still, there is time huh

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | GB Closed
« Reply #70 on: Tue, 22 June 2021, 17:58:08 »
Thanks for the update.  This set is so special that I am trying to find the correct board for this to live on.  I am buying a board to match a set, not the other way round.  A deep brown ergo would be perfect.

I have this coming which might just work
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Damn that is so nice. I'm trying to find a home for my set as well, but I'm looking at RAL 9001 so that my board can look like a cup holding coffee lol

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | GB Closed
« Reply #71 on: Sat, 26 June 2021, 01:54:22 »
Awwww, new to the hobby and missed this.......

I think it's the best colorway I had ever seen.

Anyway to still get this set?

And any chance that this will be made in GMK or KAT profile?

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | GB Closed
« Reply #72 on: Mon, 28 June 2021, 03:58:24 »
Weeee.....managed to pre-order at Kono for alphas, TKL, novelties, Thok artisan cap and deskmat!

Does this mean I secured the set and will just be shipped after all GB's are shipped? Or not really secured and it's sort of a waitlist?

Sorry, I am a noob at GB's and pre-orders

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« Reply #73 on: Mon, 28 June 2021, 13:03:56 »
You will get your set when the group buy orders ship-youre in the GB now.

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | GB Closed
« Reply #74 on: Mon, 28 June 2021, 19:38:14 »
Great news! Thanks.

Really excited about this set.

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | GB Closed
« Reply #75 on: Thu, 12 August 2021, 11:21:25 »
I felt really bad about not pulling the trigger on this, so I decided to join the preorder on Kono too. SA may not be my top tier but they're just so gorgeous! Glad I made the decision.

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« Reply #76 on: Tue, 22 February 2022, 04:43:44 »
First estimation was May 2022, now some sites show Q3 2022 - is that correct?
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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | GB Closed
« Reply #77 on: Tue, 22 February 2022, 12:22:07 »
First estimation was May 2022, now some sites show Q3 2022 - is that correct?

That is correct, shortly after GB SP delayed the set and their current estimation is August 2022.

Will keep you updated if anything changes.

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | GB Closed
« Reply #78 on: Fri, 25 February 2022, 17:36:17 »
Mad I missed this

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | GB Closed
« Reply #79 on: Thu, 19 May 2022, 08:52:22 »
First estimation was May 2022, now some sites show Q3 2022 - is that correct?

That is correct, shortly after GB SP delayed the set and their current estimation is August 2022.

Will keep you updated if anything changes.

Looks like it's been updated to Q4?

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« Reply #80 on: Thu, 19 May 2022, 08:53:43 »
First estimation was May 2022, now some sites show Q3 2022 - is that correct?

That is correct, shortly after GB SP delayed the set and their current estimation is August 2022.

Will keep you updated if anything changes.

Looks like it's been updated to Q4?

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | GB Closed
« Reply #81 on: Tue, 14 June 2022, 14:28:47 »
Hi everyone, here is the update on SA Espresso's samples.

To summarize the mod color RAL 8017 looks great, while the alphas will need adjustments to get the gradient as we want it.
As mentioned in the post I had selected alternatives for some of the Pantones. 7601 C, 7592 C and 471 C will be changed to a close alternative to adjust hue or saturation.

- 7601 C to 478 C
- 7587 C - Maintained 
- 7592 C to 7586 C
- 471 C to 7566 C

Also I want to clarify that I got the samples a few months ago and already gave this feedback, I've just been slow to update you here due to personal stuff. I'll try to be faster in the future.
I was also told that comparing against plastic chips would be better, so the next round will be done like that.

Samples: https://imgur.com/a/ND0y0u5
Please note that these pictures aren't accurate, colors look different than in real life and also in some cases they make the sample look closer to the Pantone.

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« Reply #82 on: Tue, 14 June 2022, 17:53:47 »
Hi everyone, here is the update on SA Espresso's samples.

To summarize the mod color RAL 8017 looks great, while the alphas will need adjustments to get the gradient as we want it.
As mentioned in the post I had selected alternatives for some of the Pantones. 7601 C, 7592 C and 471 C will be changed to a close alternative to adjust hue or saturation.

- 7601 C to 478 C
- 7587 C - Maintained 
- 7592 C to 7586 C
- 471 C to 7566 C

Also I want to clarify that I got the samples a few months ago and already gave this feedback, I've just been slow to update you here due to personal stuff. I'll try to be faster in the future.
I was also told that comparing against plastic chips would be better, so the next round will be done like that.

Samples: https://imgur.com/a/ND0y0u5
Please note that these pictures aren't accurate, colors look different than in real life and also in some cases they make the sample look closer to the Pantone.

Cool.
Are we still on track with them to be finished by end of this year?
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« Reply #83 on: Tue, 14 June 2022, 18:36:26 »
Cool.
Are we still on track with them to be finished by end of this year?

I don't have a new date yet, will share once I do.

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« Reply #84 on: Wed, 06 July 2022, 21:31:50 »
its been 13 months and color matching is still not done. Hope it is not the same with gmk cinder. I got both and really wish to get them in a year or so. Thx~

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« Reply #85 on: Thu, 07 July 2022, 02:50:24 »
its been 13 months and color matching is still not done. Hope it is not the same with gmk cinder. I got both and really wish to get them in a year or so. Thx~

I hope so too :thumb:
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« Reply #86 on: Thu, 07 July 2022, 04:45:09 »
its been 13 months and color matching is still not done. Hope it is not the same with gmk cinder. I got both and really wish to get them in a year or so. Thx~

Cinder's estimated ship date based on GMK's current rate of fulfillment is mid 2025. It would be virtually impossible for it to ship within the next year.

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« Reply #87 on: Sun, 21 August 2022, 16:04:30 »
Hey everyone, I finally have news about SA Espresso.

The colors have been approved. Right now SA is two months behind schedule so I've been told the set will be finished during October.

Here are the samples. As always keep in mind that a picture is not very accurate.

https://imgur.com/a/5euu3n7

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« Reply #88 on: Sun, 21 August 2022, 16:17:16 »
Hey everyone, I finally have news about SA Espresso.

The colors have been approved. Right now SA is two months behind schedule so I've been told the set will be finished during October.

Here are the samples. As always keep in mind that a picture is not very accurate.

https://imgur.com/a/5euu3n7

Thanks for the update! Can't wait for my coffee keycaps.

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | GB Closed
« Reply #89 on: Thu, 25 August 2022, 21:08:39 »
Hey everyone, I'm doing a quick poll for the Spacebars Kit of SA Espresso.

Previously the smaller spacebars could only be concave, but now they can make them convex like the normal 6.25u so I'll let you decide what you prefer.

Google Form

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« Reply #90 on: Mon, 29 August 2022, 10:33:08 »
Hey everyone, I'm doing a quick poll for the Spacebars Kit of SA Espresso.

Previously the smaller spacebars could only be concave, but now they can make them convex like the normal 6.25u so I'll let you decide what you prefer.

Google Form

Came here to see if small convex spacebars were possible. I am 110% in support of convex short bars.  ;D

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« Reply #91 on: Tue, 30 August 2022, 12:03:28 »
Hi guys, after all I wont be making any changes to the spacebars. Convex did win but only with 60% and I don't think it's fair to change a product they already bought for so many people.

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« Reply #92 on: Thu, 01 September 2022, 00:21:29 »
Hi guys, after all I wont be making any changes to the spacebars. Convex did win but only with 60% and I don't think it's fair to change a product they already bought for so many people.


sheeeeet i only just saw the poll. would have voted convex... concave is ass

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« Reply #93 on: Tue, 20 September 2022, 11:48:26 »
that bar decision kind of killed this for me, no idea who the hell purposefully wants concave bars... the only reason they are concave in the first place is a lack of molds. oh well.

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« Reply #94 on: Tue, 20 September 2022, 12:01:08 »
Hi guys, after all I wont be making any changes to the spacebars. Convex did win but only with 60% and I don't think it's fair to change a product they already bought for so many people.

This is honestly one of the stupidest kitting choices I've ever seen someone willfully make in this hobby. I hope you reconsider for the sake of your buyers, there is zero reason to utilize concave bars over convex bars. And doing so after your community expressed support for the change just shows that you don't actually care what they think.

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« Reply #95 on: Tue, 20 September 2022, 12:10:37 »
This is honestly one of the stupidest kitting choices I've ever seen someone willfully make in this hobby. I hope you reconsider for the sake of your buyers, there is zero reason to utilize concave bars over convex bars. And doing so after your community expressed support for the change just shows that you don't actually care what they think.

40% of my buyers didn't want convex, so there is a reason to keep them concave. Even if more people wanted to change to convex (myself included) I'm not gonna change a product after GB if almost half the buyers don't want that.
I have no idea how you can extrapolate from that that I don't care about what they think, but you do you.

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« Reply #96 on: Tue, 20 September 2022, 12:51:33 »
Convex was and has always been simply a compromise to the SA profile as they did not have the molds. I've been buying SA since Nantucket Selectric and have always hated the bars.

Have you considered that:

* Your buyers are not guaranteed to check this thread (I am not sure that a geekhack-posted Google form properly represents the purchasing group for this set)
* Your buyers may not understand the difference between convex and concave
* Your buyers may not understand that this would have zero impact on the production times

This is a significant issue for SA keys. Concave bars are more akin to a modifier key. Convex keys are made to be spacebars. I would expect that most people would prefer convex.

I didn't get in on the GB (I don't trust color matching until I see samples) but also won't get extras due to this choice. Feel free to ignore me if it just irritates you, I am just expressing concern because this is a pretty significant go or no-go for purchasers like me.

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« Reply #97 on: Tue, 20 September 2022, 12:54:22 »
This is honestly one of the stupidest kitting choices I've ever seen someone willfully make in this hobby. I hope you reconsider for the sake of your buyers, there is zero reason to utilize concave bars over convex bars. And doing so after your community expressed support for the change just shows that you don't actually care what they think.

40% of my buyers didn't want convex, so there is a reason to keep them concave. Even if more people wanted to change to convex (myself included) I'm not gonna change a product after GB if almost half the buyers don't want that.
I have no idea how you can extrapolate from that that I don't care about what they think, but you do you.

You didn't poll your buyers, you polled via a publicly posted google form linked on Geekhack. Unless you emailed everybody that ordered the set, you did not poll your buyers.
You then ignored the majority of responders.
You're acting like it's a noble thing you're doing by not changing the advertised product but it's literally an upgrade with no drawbacks. Concave bars have never been a feature, they have always been a compromise borne of minibars being a recent development in the hobby, and for a long time it was easier to just use existing blanks for other keys, like shifts, rather than develop actual spacebar molds. I am willing to bet that the 40% of people voting against it is a mix of:

1) people who do not know or understand the difference between concave and convex spacebars
2) people who have an irrational fear that the change would increase production lead times
3) people who did not even buy the set voting for ****s and giggles

You, as the designer, are responsible for making informed decisions on behalf of your customers. Kitting feedback is good but ultimately it is on you to make the best choices given the information available. You made a choice that only stands to hurt customers because of some unproven notion that people really want concave bars. I only stress all these points because I do not want future set designers to use this as precedent and use concave bars thinking they're doing something right.

Offline JPoc

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | GB Closed
« Reply #98 on: Tue, 20 September 2022, 13:27:22 »
You didn't poll your buyers, you polled via a publicly posted google form linked on Geekhack. Unless you emailed everybody that ordered the set, you did not poll your buyers.
You then ignored the majority of responders.
You're acting like it's a noble thing you're doing by not changing the advertised product but it's literally an upgrade with no drawbacks. Concave bars have never been a feature, they have always been a compromise borne of minibars being a recent development in the hobby, and for a long time it was easier to just use existing blanks for other keys, like shifts, rather than develop actual spacebar molds. I am willing to bet that the 40% of people voting against it is a mix of:

1) people who do not know or understand the difference between concave and convex spacebars
2) people who have an irrational fear that the change would increase production lead times
3) people who did not even buy the set voting for ****s and giggles

You, as the designer, are responsible for making informed decisions on behalf of your customers. Kitting feedback is good but ultimately it is on you to make the best choices given the information available. You made a choice that only stands to hurt customers because of some unproven notion that people really want concave bars. I only stress all these points because I do not want future set designers to use this as precedent and use concave bars thinking they're doing something right.

Yes I know that concave bars were a limitation, obviously if I was sarting a new SA GB today I would use the new molds. It's completely different to make kitting changes before or AFTER the GB. You're giving people something different than what they bought.

I did the poll for everyone that I could, which is geekhack and my discord. You're right that it would be ideal to poll every single customer but I can't do that, especially since I had limited time to gather customer feedback and make a decision or it would start hurting production times.

I can't read people minds, I'm not gonna assume what everyone wants, I'm gonna use the data that I could gather to make a decision and I'm going to prioritize not making kitting changes after GB unless a significant percentage wants it. If someone bough the set it means they are okay with concave bars or they don't even know the difference, so it's not that terrible to just give them the product they were gonna get from the start. There's several previous SA sets like this, it's fine.

In any case I don't know why you're so worked up, I'm not ignoring anyone, I'm not acting like I'm doing anything noble. Relax.

...Feel free to ignore me if it just irritates you, I am just expressing concern because this is a pretty significant go or no-go for purchasers like me.

I'm not ignoring you either, you're both making the same points so read my reply to them.

« Last Edit: Tue, 20 September 2022, 13:41:03 by JPoc »

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Re: [GB] SA Espresso | GB Closed
« Reply #99 on: Tue, 20 September 2022, 14:07:32 »
Hi folks. I made a small order last week for matching convex minibars with sizes 2u, 2.25u, 2.75u, and 3u represented. I can post back here when they've arrived.