The Toxic set [restructuring with ctrl alt store]

[SpAmRaY]

IC thread regarding Dvorak kit for this posted in proper section

For the lazy

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51208.0

you beat me to it spamray.  What do you think?

You might want a username entry for the voting otherwise I can just vote no 100x

[Melvang]

IC thread regarding Dvorak kit for this posted in proper section

For the lazy

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51208.0

you beat me to it spamray.  What do you think?

You might want a username entry for the voting otherwise I can just vote no 100x

I had actually just thought of that after I posted the form.  Will see if I can figure that one out.

Edit:  Form replaced

[kolonelkadat]

any update on the color situation?

[dustinhxc]

are these still for order? id love to fill out the form for a num pad set and gh keys.

[rowdy]

are these still for order? id love to fill out the form for a num pad set and gh keys.

These are still for order, and will be until the first Cherry replica GB has moved forward.

There was some talk about going with GMK for this, but they can only do the standard layout, and colour would not match with SP's custom keycaps.

There was also talk about having everyone resubmit their orders in case people who ordered a year ago have changed their mind or simply disappeared.

We don't want to hold up the payment phase too much ...

[dustinhxc]

are these still for order? id love to fill out the form for a num pad set and gh keys.

These are still for order, and will be until the first Cherry replica GB has moved forward.

There was some talk about going with GMK for this, but they can only do the standard layout, and colour would not match with SP's custom keycaps.

There was also talk about having everyone resubmit their orders in case people who ordered a year ago have changed their mind or simply disappeared.

We don't want to hold up the payment phase too much ...

Thank You!!! Oh just realized the GH arent sold by them selves

[danielucf]

At the moment I am going to get one of the sample keys and send it to GMK for them to try and color match. It is looking very likely that we may handle payment and shipping through mass drop because this group buy got WAY bigger than I anticipated and I don't want to move $50-60k+ through my bank account.

If this doesn't happen through GMK then my next group buy will be with GMK through Mass Drop.

[LONGZILLA]

At the moment I am going to get one of the sample keys and send it to GMK for them to try and color match. It is looking very likely that we may handle payment and shipping through mass drop because this group buy got WAY bigger than I anticipated and I don't want to move $50-60k+ through my bank account.

If this doesn't happen through GMK then my next group buy will be with GMK through Mass Drop.

I'm not currently in on this group buy, but appreciate all the work you've put into it Daniel.  Have always had a good experience with Massdrop so good to see you're able to get them involved with GH

[LechnerDE]

If this doesn't happen through GMK then my next group buy will be with GMK through Mass Drop.

Oh wow! More GMK GBs incoming 


Have you already thought about a design and a  color scheme or is this just a general plan you have?

[danielucf]

If this doesn't happen through GMK then my next group buy will be with GMK through Mass Drop.

Oh wow! More GMK GBs incoming 


Have you already thought about a design and a  color scheme or is this just a general plan you have?

General plan, but it'll need to be something that people can get interested in. We used to be only paying maybe around 15-20% markup on 110 key Cherry sets at Originative but the Dolch and other buys are looking like much higher premiums are being charged. With MassDrop it is only 15% and shipping costs are much cheaper because they have a deal. The gentleman at MassDrop I spoke with said they love the keyboard enthusiast community since we are so patient with group buys and pretty quick to pull the trigger on what we want. I think we would also be able to give everyone 3-4 weeks to be able to participate instead of the normal 7-14 days that most MassDrops have ordering open for.

[Melvang]

Any idea when this is going to go down with mass drop?

Do they handle payment any different?

Would we still be going the vendor kits?

[bueller]

If this doesn't happen through GMK then my next group buy will be with GMK through Mass Drop.

Oh wow! More GMK GBs incoming 


Have you already thought about a design and a  color scheme or is this just a general plan you have?

General plan, but it'll need to be something that people can get interested in. We used to be only paying maybe around 15-20% markup on 110 key Cherry sets at Originative but the Dolch and other buys are looking like much higher premiums are being charged. With MassDrop it is only 15% and shipping costs are much cheaper because they have a deal. The gentleman at MassDrop I spoke with said they love the keyboard enthusiast community since we are so patient with group buys and pretty quick to pull the trigger on what we want. I think we would also be able to give everyone 3-4 weeks to be able to participate instead of the normal 7-14 days that most MassDrops have ordering open for.

So stoked this is moving forward with Massdrop! I think it will definitely help to bring some people into the GB that my be wary or unfamiliar with GB's here, having it on Massdrop means people are going to be a lot more trusting.

[rowdy]

If this doesn't happen through GMK then my next group buy will be with GMK through Mass Drop.

Oh wow! More GMK GBs incoming 


Have you already thought about a design and a  color scheme or is this just a general plan you have?

General plan, but it'll need to be something that people can get interested in. We used to be only paying maybe around 15-20% markup on 110 key Cherry sets at Originative but the Dolch and other buys are looking like much higher premiums are being charged. With MassDrop it is only 15% and shipping costs are much cheaper because they have a deal. The gentleman at MassDrop I spoke with said they love the keyboard enthusiast community since we are so patient with group buys and pretty quick to pull the trigger on what we want. I think we would also be able to give everyone 3-4 weeks to be able to participate instead of the normal 7-14 days that most MassDrops have ordering open for.

So stoked this is moving forward with Massdrop! I think it will definitely help to bring some people into the GB that my be wary or unfamiliar with GB's here, having it on Massdrop means people are going to be a lot more trusting.

I'm still unsure about this Massdrop thing

[Cottonsox]

Got my poker 2 from massdrop.  Shipped without blank space bar. 

They sourced them and sent it without any issues shortly after.
Only had the one experience with them; but went smoothly.

[Pacifist]

Massdrop themselves have to profit right?

[LechnerDE]

Massdrop themselves have to profit right?

Sure they have to make a profit. But if it's a fair share there is nothing wrong with it.

On the other hand it saves Dan a lot of trouble with shipping, packaging, collecting payments via PayPal (which would probably lock his account) etc. Other GBs charge a GB fee, paypal fees, sorting fees etc. - if Massdrop does all this it's only fair they get money for it. For us it probably won't make a big difference.

The only thing that sucks for international buyers is that Massdrop is a regular company that will label the orders correctly and not undervalue stuff. In my case this would mean I'd have to pay 40$ of taxes for my 200$ order

[SpAmRaY]

Also what sort of support will there be with massdrop for missing/damaged keys etc?

[osxoep]

I did a drop for some mono price earphones, one was missing something and they sent the missing part (internationally) at their expense.

[nopunchespulled]

so when would I need to sign up with massdrop to get this, or is it still thru here?

[bueller]

so when would I need to sign up with massdrop to get this, or is it still thru here?

Dan will update this thread once it goes live on Massdrop, I'd say we're still a way off that yet.

[piraterice]

any news for when the set will reopen？

[bench]

Reopen?
Did it close yet?

[SpAmRaY]

Reopen?
Did it close yet?

No daniel is working out the final details and I believe he will probably start over with all new orders with a slightly different approach. Just stay tuned to this thread.

[Reptile]

Surprised I haven't missed this set. But I definitely need it however long it takes

[dustinhxc]

Any plans to make a toxic USB cable?

[bueller]

So excited for this, funnily enough I was worried about having the money to pay for this when I signed up in March 

[noobandroid]

this thing is gonna venture into next year mids, i think june or july?

[danielucf]

this thing is gonna venture into next year mids, i think june or july?

I seriously doubt it. Still waiting on some stuff to come together though so who knows.

[LechnerDE]

I think restarting this GB in January would be perfect.

People have a fresh keyboard bugdet for the new year and it might be easier to do a more expensive GMK set

[blighty]

Note that massdrop ships  via UPS Ground only.  So no delivery to USPS PO boxes, and packages are just left on doorstep/stairs/bushes, with no signature required. Oh, and if there is a shipping error, they won't allow packages to be rerouted or returned to sender.  So if you package gets misdirected,  they blame you, the buyer, for their/UPS' ****up and you get nothing.  Good lu k with Massdrop...

[Pacifist]

Note that massdrop ships  via UPS Ground only.  So no delivery to USPS PO boxes, and packages are just left on doorstep/stairs/bushes, with no signature required. Oh, and if there is a shipping error, they won't allow packages to be rerouted or returned to sender.  So if you package gets misdirected,  they blame you, the buyer, for their/UPS' ****up and you get nothing.  Good lu k with Massdrop...

massdrop is pretty reasonable themselves and if that happens they ship you a new item

[damorgue]

Note that massdrop ships  via UPS Ground only.  So no delivery to USPS PO boxes, and packages are just left on doorstep/stairs/bushes, with no signature required. Oh, and if there is a shipping error, they won't allow packages to be rerouted or returned to sender.  So if you package gets misdirected,  they blame you, the buyer, for their/UPS' ****up and you get nothing.  Good lu k with Massdrop...

massdrop is pretty reasonable themselves and if that happens they ship you a new item

I am still waiting for things from their first Ergodox run and they keep giving excuses, just fyi.

[Pacifist]

Note that massdrop ships  via UPS Ground only.  So no delivery to USPS PO boxes, and packages are just left on doorstep/stairs/bushes, with no signature required. Oh, and if there is a shipping error, they won't allow packages to be rerouted or returned to sender.  So if you package gets misdirected,  they blame you, the buyer, for their/UPS' ****up and you get nothing.  Good lu k with Massdrop...

massdrop is pretty reasonable themselves and if that happens they ship you a new item

I am still waiting for things from their first Ergodox run and they keep giving excuses, just fyi.

but when they do get **** out they have plenty of extras on hand to give

[osi]

Want!!

[SpAmRaY]

Note that massdrop ships  via UPS Ground only.  So no delivery to USPS PO boxes, and packages are just left on doorstep/stairs/bushes, with no signature required. Oh, and if there is a shipping error, they won't allow packages to be rerouted or returned to sender.  So if you package gets misdirected,  they blame you, the buyer, for their/UPS' ****up and you get nothing.  Good lu k with Massdrop...

massdrop is pretty reasonable themselves and if that happens they ship you a new item

I am still waiting for things from their first Ergodox run and they keep giving excuses, just fyi.

but when they do get **** out they have plenty of extras on hand to give

Don't they run out when selling things? Why would they have extra if they sold out...

[blighty]

Note that massdrop ships  via UPS Ground only.  So no delivery to USPS PO boxes, and packages are just left on doorstep/stairs/bushes, with no signature required. Oh, and if there is a shipping error, they won't allow packages to be rerouted or returned to sender.  So if you package gets misdirected,  they blame you, the buyer, for their/UPS' ****up and you get nothing.  Good lu k with Massdrop...

massdrop is pretty reasonable themselves and if that happens they ship you a new item

My personal experience with Massdrop didn't get me my product. I lucked out that paypal sided with me in the dispute after UPS dropped it off at an address they thought I might live at, a few thousand miles away from the PO box I use.   I did not get my gear, but at least I didn't lose any money.  For once PayPal does right?

[bueller]

Note that massdrop ships  via UPS Ground only.  So no delivery to USPS PO boxes, and packages are just left on doorstep/stairs/bushes, with no signature required. Oh, and if there is a shipping error, they won't allow packages to be rerouted or returned to sender.  So if you package gets misdirected,  they blame you, the buyer, for their/UPS' ****up and you get nothing.  Good lu k with Massdrop...

massdrop is pretty reasonable themselves and if that happens they ship you a new item

My personal experience with Massdrop didn't get me my product. I lucked out that paypal sided with me in the dispute after UPS dropped it off at an address they thought I might live at, a few thousand miles away from the PO box I use.   I did not get my gear, but at least I didn't lose any money.  For once PayPal does right?

Paypal will pretty much always side with the buyer if the seller can't prove delivery to you. And if you're worried about how they MassDrop handle it you have to remember that sets are bound to be lost in transit or have missing keys in any GB, better that those sort of costs are absorbed by MD than by members here.

[SpAmRaY]

Note that massdrop ships  via UPS Ground only.  So no delivery to USPS PO boxes, and packages are just left on doorstep/stairs/bushes, with no signature required. Oh, and if there is a shipping error, they won't allow packages to be rerouted or returned to sender.  So if you package gets misdirected,  they blame you, the buyer, for their/UPS' ****up and you get nothing.  Good lu k with Massdrop...

massdrop is pretty reasonable themselves and if that happens they ship you a new item

My personal experience with Massdrop didn't get me my product. I lucked out that paypal sided with me in the dispute after UPS dropped it off at an address they thought I might live at, a few thousand miles away from the PO box I use.   I did not get my gear, but at least I didn't lose any money.  For once PayPal does right?

Paypal will pretty much always side with the buyer if the seller can't prove delivery to you. And if you're worried about how they MassDrop handle it you have to remember that sets are bound to be lost in transit or have missing keys in any GB, better that those sort of costs are absorbed by MD than by members here.

Missing keys would be my biggest concern with massdrop. If doing a buy like we normally do through massdrop who sorts the keysets??

[bueller]

Note that massdrop ships  via UPS Ground only.  So no delivery to USPS PO boxes, and packages are just left on doorstep/stairs/bushes, with no signature required. Oh, and if there is a shipping error, they won't allow packages to be rerouted or returned to sender.  So if you package gets misdirected,  they blame you, the buyer, for their/UPS' ****up and you get nothing.  Good lu k with Massdrop...

massdrop is pretty reasonable themselves and if that happens they ship you a new item

My personal experience with Massdrop didn't get me my product. I lucked out that paypal sided with me in the dispute after UPS dropped it off at an address they thought I might live at, a few thousand miles away from the PO box I use.   I did not get my gear, but at least I didn't lose any money.  For once PayPal does right?

Paypal will pretty much always side with the buyer if the seller can't prove delivery to you. And if you're worried about how they MassDrop handle it you have to remember that sets are bound to be lost in transit or have missing keys in any GB, better that those sort of costs are absorbed by MD than by members here.

Missing keys would be my biggest concern with massdrop. If doing a buy like we normally do through massdrop who sorts the keysets??

Massdrop handles all the sorting and shipping.

[phoenix1234]

If this groupbuy becomes a SP and GMK mixture, I will support them both 

IMO, SP keycaps are very good for Cherry MX blue, it will help the sound better.
Besides, this GB started with SP, it will be a nice business gesture if we continue to buy from them.

Regarding the Massdrop, I have no experience with them so I hope it will turn out nicely  )

[clickclack123]

Love this colour scheme!

I couldn't wade through all 53 pages of this thread, is an ergodox set going to happen? Saw there was some discussion about it 20 pages ago...

[rowdy]

Love this colour scheme!

I couldn't wade through all 53 pages of this thread, is an ergodox set going to happen? Saw there was some discussion about it 20 pages ago...

The whole thing might be going through Massdrop instead.

[Melvang]

Any chance we can get an update in the OP??

[SpAmRaY]

Any chance we can get an update in the OP??

Daniel's a busy guy. I'm sure if he had news he'd post it.

[noobandroid]

i cant even remember did i pay for this or not :/

[bueller]

i cant even remember did i pay for this or not :/

Hasn't been invoiced yet so I doubt it!

[LechnerDE]

This was actually the first GB I ever participated when I joined Geekhack back in 2012.

I can't believe we haven't even reached the invoicing phase yet

Will we get this set in 2014? We haven't even decided whether we go with SP or GMK right?

[bueller]

This was actually the first GB I ever participated when I joined Geekhack back in 2012.

I can't believe we haven't even reached the invoicing phase yet

Will we get this set in 2014? We haven't even decided whether we go with SP or GMK right?

Hahaha yeah I joined just for Toxic, my first posts were in this very thread. Was worth the wait especially considering GMK's recently reduced MOQ.

[whiskytango]

especially considering GMK's recently reduced MOQ.

Can you elaborate on this? I had not heard.

[SpAmRaY]

especially considering GMK's recently reduced MOQ.

Can you elaborate on this? I had not heard.

The MOQ for printed caps went from 400 down to 250. However blanks and windowed caps are still at 400.