The Toxic set [restructuring with ctrl alt store]

[Supergleep]

I'm all for a sorting fee if it lightens your burden. This has turned in to quite a monster GB. 

[baldgye]

gona wait to see the samples before filling out a forum, curious to see how this will actually look IRL.... though the mod/iso set is very tempting!

[boost]

Any updates pricing info for the "vendor" keys?

[AKIMbO]

So, topre lime green, toxic cc green, or another green? Also can someone take a picture of topre lime green next to a DanGWanG "green" cap for comparison?

As requested.....



The two colors are damn near identical.  DanGWang's keycap color is a tad darker.  Honestly I think it looks better than Topre's lime green color.  Let me know if you need me to mail you a topre lime green key.

[IPT]

put in an order
and you want to have these pre-sorted, i think with the ragnarock red/black set originally it wasn't sorted? (not sure) and it'll drive you crazy to sort all these sets lol.

[whiskerBox]

I have a couple concerns based on the mock up images, please correct me if I am wrong

Toxic base kit includes toxic Back space and tilde keys so the toxic mod set would not need to include those

The winkeyless toxic mod set does not include the pipe ( \ | ), backspace, enter, 2.75 right shift and tab keys so someone with a winkeyless board would need to buy both toxic mod sets in order to get all toxic mods. Also the winkeyless mod set includes a toxic tilde which is already included in the base set.

[Batmann]

So, topre lime green, toxic cc green, or another green? Also can someone take a picture of topre lime green next to a DanGWanG "green" cap for comparison?

As requested.....

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The two colors are damn near identical.  DanGWang's keycap color is a tad darker.  Honestly I think it looks better than Topre's lime green color.  Let me know if you need me to mail you a topre lime green key.

this is VAT green from SP
gonna make the colour choice easyier I guess!

[Halverson]

I think the lighter green may look better contrast wise on the dark grey.
And looking at the mock in the OP, the green there is quite a bit more yellow.

[IPT]

yeah im a fan of the lighter/brighter green, not neon green levels, but more than "darker" green

[danielucf]

I have a couple concerns based on the mock up images, please correct me if I am wrong

Toxic base kit includes toxic Back space and tilde keys so the toxic mod set would not need to include those

The winkeyless toxic mod set does not include the pipe ( \ | ), backspace, enter, 2.75 right shift and tab keys so someone with a winkeyless board would need to buy both toxic mod sets in order to get all toxic mods. Also the winkeyless mod set includes a toxic tilde which is already included in the base set.

There are many base sets ordered without modifier kits, and also modifier kists ordered without base sets. There will be some overlap on a couple keys, but with the quantities we are at, the costs are minimal.

The winkeyless kit includes keys that are not in the modifier kit, it is not meant to be a stand alone with 2,75, backspace, etc. It is essentially a simplified tsangan set to reduce cost. Also the "~`" key included in the winkeyless kit is the R4 profile for KBT Pure compatibility.

The topre lime green looks like a lighter shade of VAT, I'm going to check out home depot and lowes to see what color pallets they have, I can send something on cardboard or paper also.

[whiskerBox]

I have a couple concerns based on the mock up images, please correct me if I am wrong

Toxic base kit includes toxic Back space and tilde keys so the toxic mod set would not need to include those

The winkeyless toxic mod set does not include the pipe ( \ | ), backspace, enter, 2.75 right shift and tab keys so someone with a winkeyless board would need to buy both toxic mod sets in order to get all toxic mods. Also the winkeyless mod set includes a toxic tilde which is already included in the base set.

There are many base sets ordered without modifier kits, and also modifier kists ordered without base sets. There will be some overlap on a couple keys, but with the quantities we are at, the costs are minimal.

The winkeyless kit includes keys that are not in the modifier kit, it is not meant to be a stand alone with 2,75, backspace, etc. It is essentially a simplified tsangan set to reduce cost. Also the "~`" key included in the winkeyless kit is the R4 profile for KBT Pure compatibility.

The topre lime green looks like a lighter shade of VAT, I'm going to check out home depot and lowes to see what color pallets they have, I can send something on cardboard or paper also.

Gotcha so the plan is that the winkeyless is an add on to the toxic mod kit, I guess that's not horrible since the price tier is pretty good.

[danielucf]

Gotcha so the plan is that the winkeyless is an add on to the toxic mod kit, I guess that's not horrible since the price tier is pretty good.

I've never seen a group buy that sold a modifier set with 1.5x size modifiers. It is normally always done with a tsangan set.

[whiskerBox]

Gotcha so the plan is that the winkeyless is an add on to the toxic mod kit, I guess that's not horrible since the price tier is pretty good.

I've never seen a group buy that sold a modifier set with 1.5x size modifiers. It is normally always done with a tsangan set.

Whatever works man I think I am just making this more complicated lol, do your thing daniel

[Nellis]

I think the lighter green may look better contrast wise on the dark grey.
And looking at the mock in the OP, the green there is quite a bit more yellow.

I would like the set to be a bit more yellow aswell. It wil look far more toxic than lime green.

[VesperSAINT]

I would like the set to be a bit more yellow aswell. It wil look far more toxic than lime green.

I personally like the color as it is now; makes it look like it has a kinda radioactive glow )

[Slavfot]

How much extra would it cost to add the legends on the ISO-enter?

[danielucf]

How much extra would it cost to add the legends on the ISO-enter?

Probably nothing, I'll look into it. It is a good idea for the other iso keys to be blank right? That way all the different boards can just put the keys where needed?

[Slavfot]

How much extra would it cost to add the legends on the ISO-enter?

Probably nothing, I'll look into it. It is a good idea for the other iso keys to be blank right? That way all the different boards can just put the keys where needed?

Thanks! would be great to have legend on iso enter because it looks so booring without. I would prefer an arrow legend and no text.

The key to the right of left shift should have [<> | /] that would make it fit most of the ISO layouts, but also include a row4 blank key.

[GMC]

How much extra would it cost to add the legends on the ISO-enter?

Probably nothing, I'll look into it. It is a good idea for the other iso keys to be blank right? That way all the different boards can just put the keys where needed?

Thanks! would be great to have legend on iso enter because it looks so booring without. I would prefer an arrow legend and no text.

The key to the right of left shift should have [<> | /] that would make it fit most of the ISO layouts, but also include a row4 blank key.

Agree with this.

[OrangeJewce]

When do orders conclude for this? I couldn't find out from the OP.

Cheers,

[Johan]

Is there a date set for this now, As in last order date.

[rowdy]

OP says "I will run the group buy until around the end of January or beginning of February when collection of payment will begin, but maintain the option to push it back if it means we will get a better set."

[Johan]

OP says "I will run the group buy until around the end of January or beginning of February when collection of payment will begin, but maintain the option to push it back if it means we will get a better set."

Well ITs the middle of January so There might have been a update as to a closer date.

[L3R4F]

Order submitted, one toxic base kit and one toxic numpad.
Thanks for this group buy danielucf

[Gupgup]

Order filled, not sure about the Toxic Vendor set? What does that consist of, or maybe I'm just missing something plainly obvious

[mickd]

The vendor set contains a bunch of novelty keys which are currently sold by a bunch of the vendors here. However, they will be in different colours that will match the toxic set.

[oluf]

I think the lighter green may look better contrast wise on the dark grey.
And looking at the mock in the OP, the green there is quite a bit more yellow.

I agree with Halverson... I think the OP looks lighter green/more yellow/more "toxic", and would have better contrast than the darker greens from dangwang/topre.

[wasabah]

I know I'm quite late to the game, but I have to ask anyway as this set is really awesome: would it be possible to add an ErgoDox kit, maybe just with some blank 1x1.50 and 1x2.00 keys?

[OrangeJewce]

I know I'm quite late to the game, but I have to ask anyway as this set is really awesome: would it be possible to add an ErgoDox kit, maybe just with some blank 1x1.50 and 1x2.00 keys?

That's a great idea! +1

Cheers,

[Glod]

I know I'm quite late to the game, but I have to ask anyway as this set is really awesome: would it be possible to add an ErgoDox kit, maybe just with some blank 1x1.50 and 1x2.00 keys?

That's a great idea! +1

Cheers,

+1! Toxic ErgoDox would probably look great with aluminium case

will pay extra for that for sure if made available

[danielucf]

I know I'm quite late to the game, but I have to ask anyway as this set is really awesome: would it be possible to add an ErgoDox kit, maybe just with some blank 1x1.50 and 1x2.00 keys?

What profile for which keys? Also do you know what legends are supposed to be where too? Because we may as well do it right if we can.

[wasabah]

Here's the layout: https://massdropinc.s3.amazonaws.com/product-images/massdrop-product-ergodoxlayout.png

The keys to the left and right of the keyboard have the size 1x1.5. The thumb keys are 1x2.0.

Not 100% sure about the profile for the keys, so if somebody could please confirm.. thanks!
I think depending on the choice of the user it's either DSA or DCS.

[Glissant]

Toxic on my ErgoDox? Is this real life!? That's a fantastic idea!

[OrangeJewce]

I know I'm quite late to the game, but I have to ask anyway as this set is really awesome: would it be possible to add an ErgoDox kit, maybe just with some blank 1x1.50 and 1x2.00 keys?

What profile for which keys? Also do you know what legends are supposed to be where too? Because we may as well do it right if we can.

I'm not sure I want legends on ANY of the modifier keys, as they are the most likely to be remapped, but I'll just wait to see what you come up with.

Cheers,

[wiredPANDA]

Thing with making caps for the ErgoDox, is it's programmable.  So, the legends that were shown, will not be in use by all people.

[danielucf]

Wow getting keys onto an ergo dox looks insane with all the odd sizes and things rotated 90 degrees. Looks like a nightmare to be honest

What are you supposed to put on the Backspace, delete, space, and return 2x keys? Looks like it would be best suited for an enter key profile from a numpad more than a 2x size backspace key so that it would line up with your thumb. Then what on earth do you put for those 90 degree rotated 1.5x keys? they say "la 1 + 1" what does that even mean? I also saw some keys on there twice, but it can be remapped so I guess that isn't important. I think the main issue is a vertical 2x key exists, but a vertical 1.5x does not, at least that I know of.

[danielucf]

Also just calculated the Vendor set and it should be in the $7-12 range for 12 total keys.

[MelonTropic]

Hi guys. Iam planning to buy the toxic base kit and iam not sure,
do i need any modified spacebar or caps key so that the full set can fit on my keyboard,
which is a Leopold TKL. Also iam planning to buy a Filco TKL (not sure if ansi or iso) and do the filco
need any keys other than the base set/(iso)? Thx for info.

[wiredPANDA]

That price point is going to make me definitely reconsider picking at least one up.

@ergoDox:
Yea the key sizes/layout are going to be a pain to get keys for.  I'm hoping that a GB from somewhere (MD or WASD) comes around to accommodate the odd layout needed.

[divinty]

Oh god I wish i had money to order a set of these

[Glod]

Wow getting keys onto an ergo dox looks insane with all the odd sizes and things rotated 90 degrees. Looks like a nightmare to be honest

What are you supposed to put on the Backspace, delete, space, and return 2x keys? Looks like it would be best suited for an enter key profile from a numpad more than a 2x size backspace key so that it would line up with your thumb. Then what on earth do you put for those 90 degree rotated 1.5x keys? they say "la 1 + 1" what does that even mean? I also saw some keys on there twice, but it can be remapped so I guess that isn't important. I think the main issue is a vertical 2x key exists, but a vertical 1.5x does not, at least that I know of.

the la 1 + 1, la 1 +-1 should be the function keys if i am correct, la meaning layer, there are 4 layers with the ergodox 0,1,2,3. the GUI keys i believe are the windows keys

I mean, if think if we can just get blank toxic/grey 2x1 and 1 x 1.5(or is it 1.25?) key caps for the odd ones we will be happy, the legends for those keys wont matter too much.  However for the obvious keys like Shift, \|, [{, and those, legends would be nice if possible. but blank still we'd take. those 1.5(or is it 1.25) keys and 2x1 keys would look hot in toxic

of course if it is impossible i guess oh well, nice to dream.

[OrangeJewce]

Wow getting keys onto an ergo dox looks insane with all the odd sizes and things rotated 90 degrees. Looks like a nightmare to be honest

What are you supposed to put on the Backspace, delete, space, and return 2x keys? Looks like it would be best suited for an enter key profile from a numpad more than a 2x size backspace key so that it would line up with your thumb. Then what on earth do you put for those 90 degree rotated 1.5x keys? they say "la 1 + 1" what does that even mean? I also saw some keys on there twice, but it can be remapped so I guess that isn't important. I think the main issue is a vertical 2x key exists, but a vertical 1.5x does not, at least that I know of.

the la 1 + 1, la 1 +-1 should be the function keys if i am correct, la meaning layer, there are 4 layers with the ergodox 0,1,2,3. the GUI keys i believe are the windows keys

I mean, if think if we can just get blank toxic/grey 2x1 and 1 x 1.5(or is it 1.25?) key caps for the odd ones we will be happy, the legends for those keys wont matter too much.  However for the obvious keys like Shift, \|, [{, and those, legends would be nice if possible. but blank still we'd take. those 1.5(or is it 1.25) keys and 2x1 keys would look hot in toxic

of course if it is impossible i guess oh well, nice to dream.

Again in my opinion, it's better to leave all thumb and mod buttons as blank. That way we don't have to deal with what legend goes where. The alphanumerics can have legends, standard profile. The 2x are best suited as numpad 2x keys. I wouldn't worry about the layer actuating keys, they should be blank as well. For 1.5x keys, everything I've seen are standard cylindrical, with the higher edge of the profile facing out. (towards the edge of the case)

Hopefully I cleared some things up?

Cheers,

[wiredPANDA]

An add-on kit for Dox compatibility would be amazing.  I'd say go with blanks for the 1.5/2.0 keys, as well.

[rowdy]

Also just calculated the Vendor set and it should be in the $7-12 range for 12 total keys.

That's excellent!  I was expecting about double that price

[okooko]

Also the "~`" key included in the winkeyless kit is the R4 profile for KBT Pure compatibility.

This is what I'm after, now my Pure gets to play too

[Turkishrambo]

Can you add a winkeyless mod and 7x gray spacebar to my order? Thank you:)

[wasabah]

The key size for the keys at the sides are definitely 1x1.5 size, 12 altogether.
Check this picture with keycaps harvested from Kinesis Advantage (which uses 1x1.25 keys):
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8345/8197651589_74910fba43_z.jpg
You can definitely see the gaps!

[danielucf]

Since no one has offered to loan a Toxic CC for the color match I'm thinking of going with Pantone 382 for the color. It has a nice yellowy green toxic appearance, but could look different on peoples monitors. Go to this link and enter 382 to see what it looks like. If there is much of a difference in the choices that come up, which one do you prefer?

[jdcarpe]

Don't ask me. In addition to being nearsighted, my eyes have a red-green color deficiency. Yay genetics!

[oluf]

Since no one has offered to loan a Toxic CC for the color match I'm thinking of going with Pantone 382 for the color. It has a nice yellowy green toxic appearance, but could look different on peoples monitors. Go to this link and enter 382 to see what it looks like. If there is much of a difference in the choices that come up, which one do you prefer?

I like the 382C and 382CP on my monitor..