[IC] KIRA TKL

[beamingrobot]

First, some photos.




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KIRA80 or KIRA TKL is a continuation of the KIRA series of keyboards designed by thesiscamper. We are looking to offer this board for GB in the coming weeks, time and date tbc.

So far here are some possible details:

1. Colours:

Same as EXS offerings, namely black, space grey etc. We might reduce the number of colours but that's tbc.

2. What's included:

PCB by TGR Keyboards, case by thesiscamper, possible numpad included as a set. Maybe a TKL carry bag, depending on supplier's price.

3. Price:

TBC, we're working out the details on this one.

4. WILL THERE BE WKL?

of course lol

4. ISO ISO ISO?

Yes, separate ANSI and ISO plates

5. Plate material?

Same as EXS, brass/poly/alu IIRC

6. Payment?

Still Shopify unfortunately, PayPal has not released my funds since Sept of 2017

7. How can I get it?

Probably raffle, or FCFS tbc.

8. Degree

Well 8 degrees

I'll update this OP as we get closer to GB date and have more details, for now, feel free to ask questions and express your hype for THIS AWESOME TKLLLLLLLLLLLLL 

Just another form: https://goo.gl/forms/00ZLTTUDOPM5ZGHO2

[schmoktopus]

why not?

[dantambok]

Looks good! Will there also be a WKL option? Also, pic of the bottom too please!

[sroop]

Is there a WKL option for this GB? Looks great!

[giangpn]

oh god, I don't need this but I want this

[enrique.aliaga]

What about a Winkeyless case option? It’d be great for covering with nice BSP Keycaps.


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[beamingrobot]

Looks good! Will there also be a WKL option? Also, pic of the bottom too please!

Is there a WKL option for this GB? Looks great!

What about a Winkeyless case option? It’d be great for covering with nice BSP Keycaps.


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WKL and BSP what is this, the 80s?


















yes of course, there will be WKL.

[idlemao]

Everyone already asked the question that was on my mind.   

I guess I'll say I like the design, especially that logo on the front. 

[rowie]

Purple case please. 

ETA: purple cause of the recent SA Troubled Minds set.

[Photoelectric]

You already know, I'm a fan of your designs, including this one!  Not filling out the IC form, because no money!  But will be following the progress along with interest.
How about doing the logo engraving between Esc and F1 instead of above the arrow cluster?

[thelaughingman]

I'm not a fan of the side at all. The angles just make the gap between top & bot pieces so in my face.

[Jhors2]

What plate options did you have in mind?  Any chance of a fixed plate?

[Oblotzky]

No thanks, already got one 

I'm not a fan of the side at all. The angles just make the gap between top & bot pieces so in my face.

near invisible on my unit 

You already know, I'm a fan of your designs, including this one!  Not filling out the IC form, because no money!  But will be following the progress along with interest.
How about doing the logo engraving between Esc and F1 instead of above the arrow cluster?

I think the logo placement is fine as it is. Also not to downplay the fantastic work beaming is doing on GH recently, but the design is by thesiscamper

[YisSerL]

Oh, I like this.   

Is it same as other KIRA, raffle style?

[JSaintS]

Heck yes!

Does the PCB support ISO?

[Peppermint216]

Super hyped, my only concern is the limited qty. Will this be another 25 limit KIRA?

[fcoury]

I'm not a fan of the side at all. The angles just make the gap between top & bot pieces so in my face.

Taste is a funny thing, that's what I like about it!

[SolidCactus]

Heck yes!

Does the PCB support ISO?

Would love to grab one of these if it supported ISO.

[bball2]

In depending on the price! Those sides look awesome :-)

[bciamny]

each time i say i'm done with keebs, something like this pops up. .

even if renders only i'd love to see numpad. i think the combo would be amazing as a set. numpad would almost guarantee my want. aldoe when oblotzky shared his board before it already caught my eye.

[M]

Why did this have to come so soon  it's so good but I just won't have the money for it

[rainb1ood]

submitted!

[thelaughingman]

No thanks, already got one 

I'm not a fan of the side at all. The angles just make the gap between top & bot pieces so in my face.

near invisible on my unit 

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now this is a photo that should be on the first post. not that protype album shot with that massive gap  :eek:

[kokugatsu]

Yes please. I'd love to use this beauty as my daily driver.

[Photoelectric]

No thanks, already got one 

I'm not a fan of the side at all. The angles just make the gap between top & bot pieces so in my face.

near invisible on my unit 

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You already know, I'm a fan of your designs, including this one!  Not filling out the IC form, because no money!  But will be following the progress along with interest.
How about doing the logo engraving between Esc and F1 instead of above the arrow cluster?

I think the logo placement is fine as it is. Also not to downplay the fantastic work beaming is doing on GH recently, but the design is by thesiscamper :)

Of course, I now think of them as a team :). But certainly, excellent work, thesiscamper! 
This photograph shows off the gem cut facet design so well.

[Windeh]

Looks awesome! Am interested in the color options.

Also, what is the mounting method for the TKL?

[yap68]

As I know, it will be done by EVE. Yes?

[Kevadu]

What's it made out of?  The original Kira had a plastic (or at least partially plastic, I forget...) version available, didn't it?  Will this?

[xondat]

What's it made out of?  The original Kira had a plastic (or at least partially plastic, I forget...) version available, didn't it?  Will this?

99.99% sure aluminum

Yes

Sincerely doubt it

[sroop]

What's it made out of?  The original Kira had a plastic (or at least partially plastic, I forget...) version available, didn't it?  Will this?

I think you're referring to the Kira96 - that was by the same designer but produced and ran by input club. The first Kira board (that I'm aware of) that was produced was the 60.


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[Genn]

I'm guessing not, given the design, but is there any possibility of getting a slick diffuser like the EXS has?

[beamingrobot]

I'm guessing not, given the design, but is there any possibility of getting a slick diffuser like the EXS has?

What plate options did you have in mind?  Any chance of a fixed plate?

Can you elaborate on this?

Oh, I like this.   

Is it same as other KIRA, raffle style?

Yes sir, or FCFS, still trying to see how we can accommodate more people.

Heck yes!

Does the PCB support ISO?

We will have separate ANSI and ISO plates

Looks awesome! Am interested in the color options.

Also, what is the mounting method for the TKL?

top

What's it made out of?  The original Kira had a plastic (or at least partially plastic, I forget...) version available, didn't it?  Will this?

A L U M I N I U M

As I know, it will be done by EVE. Yes?

Nope, same factory as 60 and EXS


Also, no diffusers, we both don't like diffusers generally speaking and it'll break the facet look thesis is going for.

[mudcakehoney]

You know I’m all in on this! Fingers and toes crossed for the matching numpad

[wowremy]

Raffle? So, whoever has the most duped emails addresses/IPs gets one?

[beamingrobot]

Raffle? So, whoever has the most duped emails addresses/IPs gets one?

How does this even make sense? It's 2018 I can sort and remove dupes?

You know I’m all in on this! Fingers and toes crossed for the matching numpad

We're gonna have a proto numpad done first just to make sure everything fits, the PCB for the numpad is also by TGR.

[yap68]

Hope it is FCFS. Not much luck in raffles, haha

[Bubblegum]

Purple case please. 

ETA: purple cause of the recent SA Troubled Minds set.

Agreed! Other two options I'm in favor of is burgundy and dark green, but don't think they're as universally liked.

[gutsack]

Agreed! Other two options I'm in favor of is burgundy and dark green, but don't think they're as universally liked.

Solution: Run this as a raffled FCFS. Raffle off 100 spots and then for those 100 it's FCFS for 50 boards. Everyone loses!

[wowremy]

I make 5 unique emails with 5 different IPs with a new geekhack account on each IP. I could be 4 people in this thread just role playing, talking to myself. How do you know?

[xondat]

I make 5 unique emails with 5 different IPs with a new geekhack account on each IP. I could be 4 people in this thread just role playing, talking to myself. How do you know?

If you're enough of a **** to buy 5 and win 5, I'm sure people will be happy to exclude you from anything in the future.

[wowremy]

I'm asking, what stops someone from doing that in "raffle" type buys?

[oh_chesteroni]

I'm asking, what stops someone from doing that in "raffle" type buys?

Boy scouts honour badge.

[Remsky]

I'm asking, what stops someone from doing that in "raffle" type buys?

They commit seppuku if they break their code of honor.

[beamingrobot]

I'm asking, what stops someone from doing that in "raffle" type buys?

I make 5 unique emails with 5 different IPs with a new geekhack account on each IP. I could be 4 people in this thread just role playing, talking to myself. How do you know?

I think your questions about raffle styled buys could be better posted in another thread or forum, since this IC thread is meant for the discussion and questions about the board. If you have any questions about these types of buys feel free to look through the GB section rules for more info. If someone really wants to go through the trouble to make 5 accounts, 5 ips and talk to themselves come shipping invoice it's a simple matter of refunding that order, and there are bigger problems if someone wants to drop so much money.  If this is something that irritates you greatly, you are welcome to not join the buy, since this TKL was meant to be a private buy at first and your attitude does not help any of us here.

[random0987]

Thanks Beaming and Thesis! Excited for the EXS to come out and hope to get in on the TKL.

Will there be the option to mix top and bottom case colors, or would that not look good with the geometry of the sides? I’d be down for a dark grey color like you suggested here: https://imgur.com/a/5D5Yg

[beamingrobot]

Thanks Beaming and Thesis! Excited for the EXS to come out and hope to get in on the TKL.

Will there be the option to mix top and bottom case colors, or would that not look good with the geometry of the sides? I’d be down for a dark grey color like you suggested here: https://imgur.com/a/5D5Yg

We might consider locking down colour combinations to better ensure anodizing quality from the factory, so I think that won't happen. The space grey looks pretty similar IMHO under certain light conditions so that might also be a choice here just like the EXS buy.

[yap68]

One colour throughout looks better on this design.

[Puree]

Hey

What is the angle for the keyboard please ?

[beamingrobot]

Hey

What is the angle for the keyboard please ?

8 degrees

[Puree]

 

[dantambok]

Still really curious what the bottom looks like! 

[Oblotzky]

Still really curious what the bottom looks like! 

Unless the design was changed since the prototype:

[wowremy]

I shouldnt post in the middle of the night ha. My bad man. Love the board

[beamingrobot]

I'm asking, what stops someone from doing that in "raffle" type buys?

I make 5 unique emails with 5 different IPs with a new geekhack account on each IP. I could be 4 people in this thread just role playing, talking to myself. How do you know?

I think your questions about raffle styled buys could be better posted in another thread or forum, since this IC thread is meant for the discussion and questions about the board. If you have any questions about these types of buys feel free to look through the GB section rules for more info. If someone really wants to go through the trouble to make 5 accounts, 5 ips and talk to themselves come shipping invoice it's a simple matter of refunding that order, and there are bigger problems if someone wants to drop so much money.  If this is something that irritates you greatly, you are welcome to not join the buy, since this TKL was meant to be a private buy at first and your attitude does not help any of us here.

I shouldnt post in the middle of the night ha. My bad man. Love the board

All good buddy, that was a weird tangent to take though

Some renders of the numpad which I'm sure some of you have seen:

[maxf]

goodbye wallet

[iNViSiBiLiTi]

I assume this fits A.87  Is there an option to but this without a pcb to lower the cost? 

[jlee755]

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[Remsky]

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[schlep]

Where would the GB ship from?

[Oblotzky]

Where would the GB ship from?

Singapore

[kokugatsu]

Would be cool if we get to see pics of the WKL ver.   

Also I'm assuming the polycarb case won't be on offer?

[Okonomiyaki#2832]

Submitted my interest. Also interested in numpad too!

[Etherealsound]

Man, do I really need another TKL? Well, I guess I do now. Also, do you have any idea what pcb is going to be used?

[Tasteless]

Yes please.

[beamingrobot]

PCB:

We're doing a custom PCB, working with yuktsi on this so it won't fit A.87 unfortunately since we're reducing the size of it slightly.

Poly:

Nope on that, poly melts too quickly and the screw holes get threaded/worn out really fast.

On the buy:

I'm currently shipping out some Canoes from that buy, so once that is over I'll be able to give a more concrete date, but as of now I'm aiming to get this started in about 2 weeks. In the meantime, we're looking to reduce the colours offered but increase the quantity and maybe do a FCFS / general GB on monokei. Maybe say, 100 units for TKL and 50 numpads or something like that.

In terms of plate options it should be the same as all KIRA buys, so brass/poly/alu.

[Peppermint216]

100 units , will be tentatively watching out for the buy. The matte grey on Oblotzkys unit is near perfect.

[p_blaze]

Do you plan on making a wrist rest for this?

[Allo]

What firmware with the custom PCB run (please say QMK)?

[Etherealsound]

Dang, I'm just here itching to find out when the gb will start. My walltet is currently being destroyed by 280 but I wanna make sure I'm ready for this beauty.

[beamingrobot]

100 units , will be tentatively watching out for the buy. The matte grey on Oblotzkys unit is near perfect.

Do note that the matte grey was a proto finish and did not feel good, so it would probably look more like the previous KIRAs.

Do you plan on making a wrist rest for this?

Not at the moment since it's TKL, should be easy to find wrist rests.

What firmware with the custom PCB run (please say QMK)?

bootmapper

[Peppermint216]

Do note that the matte grey was a proto finish and did not feel good, so it would probably look more like the previous KIRAs.

Aww that's a shame, are you referring to the physical texture it left?

[Oblotzky]

Do note that the matte grey was a proto finish and did not feel good, so it would probably look more like the previous KIRAs.

Aww that's a shame, are you referring to the physical texture it left?

Yup, it feels kinda weird, like some anti-slippery surface. There is resistance when sliding your fingers over it, but not due to roughness. It's hard to describe.

[MightyFineShindig]

Watching this space.

Would love to see a white colour option.

[goodman247]

Following this!! I hope my wallet is ready!!

[regionfree]

Finished a build last night, midnight blue with black alu plate. Trying out some key sets but will probably be using this with an all black blank pbt set.

[Chimera]

Really interested in this one. It looks great.

Just out of curiousity is the PCB from the EXS also done by TGR Keyboards

[mioraka]

Registered just for this.

Question, this will just be the kit with no switches included, correct? Will this need soldering to assemble?

Apologize if that's a dumb question. Only bought keycaps before, never keyboard kits.

[sroop]

Registered just for this.

Question, this will just be the kit with no switches included, correct? Will this need soldering to assemble?

Apologize if that's a dumb question. Only bought keycaps before, never keyboard kits.

You will need to source the switches, stabilizers and keycaps separately to complete the build. Soldering is required for the switches.


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[vonswoopington]

Signed up just for this.  This board looks amazing!

[Altain]

Amazing looking. Submitted double YAASS, would love to see some colour variations later on!

[Lansky]

Looks great!

[Sinistra]

Looks awesome! Just signed up for it! Will the PCB accommodate Zeal Hot Swap Sockets or Kailh Hot Swap?

[Wetherbee]

Please please please remove the logo.

It completely ruins the design for me.

[gutsack]

Please please please remove the logo.

It completely ruins the design for me.

I really like the logo! This is what I love about mechs—everyone in polar disagreement.

[gutsack]

[sorry, duplicate post]

[Chimera]

I really like the logo too. It's really subtle. I wish the bottom was the stars and moon logo but it's not a deal breaker at all.

[oh_chesteroni]

Please please please remove the logo.

It completely ruins the design for me.

I really like the logo! This is what I love about mechs—everyone in polar disagreement.

Well if that's what you like well then do I ever have a story for you!

Back on track regarding this IC: so is that poly Kira I see on insta a one off? Just wanted to confirm if decisions were changed regarding the use of poly.

[beamingrobot]

Poly is one off, screws strip way too easily to make it feasible.




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[bciamny]

Poly is one off, screws strip way too easily to make it feasible.




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have poly case makers explored using plastic screws for poly boards? just a thought.

[aya3154]

Hyped for this one 

[amnesia0287]

Poly is one off, screws strip way too easily to make it feasible.




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have poly case makers explored using plastic screws for poly boards? just a thought.

MxSS is using brass standoffs if i remember right.

[speedemonv12]

I’m in. But give me a numpad to match and I’ll have your babies


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[elDuderino]

can't wait for this. hope I manage to snag one.

if it does go to raffle, does you have a rough sense of how many people you'd expect to enter? wondering what my odds are 

[beamingrobot]

So just a heads-up, we have about 200 people who filled up the form, maybe some dupes here and there so it's closer to 180.

I'm trying to get a few additional things confirmed before the GB starts, so apologies if this looks delayed. It will be well worth it

Here's how the numpad would look like:

[J__T]

oh god... I need this.

[zap2oz]

I dig it! Big fan of the geometric sides

[Dennyroxsox]

Looks great! I want to build a TKL to try out some MX black switches. Maybe something trolly like Box Navies on the Numpad?

[wikkiwikki420]

That is a big if for me captain!

[Techno Trousers]

Looks great! I want to build a TKL to try out some MX black switches. Maybe something trolly like Box Navies on the Numpad?

Well, if you're experimenting, I think this might be an overly expensive way to do it. Maybe start out with a cheap used TKL and solder in some MX black in place of what it comes with? That will also give you practice in soldering.

[Chimera]

I like that numpad. Is the numpad only for people that get the tkl or will there be an option for numpad only?

[slk]

Will the numpad be available by itself?

[anatworkaccount]

That numpad really is great. Could really use one for work and would be interested in it separate from the tkl as well if extras are available.

[RobotRogue]

Normally not a fan of TKLs but this one is damn nice.

[giangpn]

it would be nice (imo of course) if the logo is filled with color instead of blank like this. I think it's fairly easy to do, too.

[forevermadrigal]

it would be nice (imo of course) if the logo is filled with color instead of blank like this. I think it's fairly easy to do, too.

imo too, I think this would look fantastic

[giangpn]

it would be nice (imo of course) if the logo is filled with color instead of blank like this. I think it's fairly easy to do, too.

imo too, I think this would look fantastic

I've been tempted to do it with my Canoe, prolly fill it with plasti-dip in case I f'd up haha

[h0tdog]

oof I hope I get picked in the raffle this would be my first custom ;p

[Wongstongs]

Also interested if the numpad will be available on it's own

[meepmeep]

Loving this design!

[hyperlite218]

Oh my god.... I need this board in my life. Perfection!

[Dennyroxsox]

Looks great! I want to build a TKL to try out some MX black switches. Maybe something trolly like Box Navies on the Numpad?

Well, if you're experimenting, I think this might be an overly expensive way to do it. Maybe start out with a cheap used TKL and solder in some MX black in place of what it comes with? That will also give you practice in soldering.

[Skaazi]

Still really curious what the bottom looks like! 

Unless the design was changed since the prototype:

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It looks so clean and a lot more fitting than the Kira60's sun and stars.

[JamesShaw]

Love the design especially when it goes with a numpad.

[nimblejacks]

Looks like I found my perfect board!

[Techno Trousers]

How many are on the interest list? How many kits  will be produced?

[FilthyMike720]

Usually hate any sort of logo above the arrow cluster, but I dig this!

[kyoumau]

That numpad is sexy.

[Jimmare]

Im in for this one,especially the numpad.

Hoping the pricing will be better than the EXS one..

[forevermadrigal]

Im in for this one,especially the numpad.

Hoping the pricing will be better than the EXS one..

Gonna be roughly about the same afaik. Which is fair because both boards are some serious metal

[cirrus82]

Will be in for a numpad + tkl, this looks great!

[Etherealsound]

Will this be going live soon?

[clik_clak]

Im in for this one,especially the numpad.

Hoping the pricing will be better than the EXS one..

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that it will be the same, if not more expensive than the EXS. With rising prices of keyboards, as well as the metal they're made with, prices definitely aren't getting better.

[beamingrobot]

We're gonna pay extra to have the TKL done proper, given the sides compared to the EXS which is harder to machine/anode.

[Create_alt_delete]

Will there be an option to purchase additional pcbs and plates?

[beamingrobot]

Will there be an option to purchase additional pcbs and plates?

Yeap as always that will be available.

[Create_alt_delete]

Will there be an option to purchase additional pcbs and plates?

Yeap as always that will be available.

Farewell paycheck

[Jimmare]

So,any updates on this one?

[talifern]

Signed up, any news?

[beamingrobot]

GB thread has been posted, once it's approved I'll link it here and lock this topic.

[avid]

Oh exciting. Is it FCFS, raffle?

[beamingrobot]

Raffle as always, you have till 03 July to decide.

[Chimera]

Any info on pricing yet? The July 3rd date is when it's going to start, or end raffle entries?

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[eyedrop]

Will the numpad be offered at the same time as the TKL?

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[Etherealsound]

Excited to see what colors are gonna be offered!

[Chimera]

All I want is some form of grey

Excited to see what colors are gonna be offered!

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[aya3154]

Looking forward to the colors released and pricing, definitely a nice looking board 

[att1cus]

Come on, mods.  Approve that GB thread!!

[vonswoopington]

Is the gb link up? I'm itching to see the colors!

[Chimera]

Is the gb link up? I'm itching to see the colors!

Not yet. I'm guessing it's just black, silver, grey, purple, and maybe red or navy. Could be wrong though.

Anyone know how many are for sale?

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[mudcakehoney]

My understanding is 100 TKL and 50 numpads but might have changed

[Photoelectric]

Group buy thread has been approved.  Please proceed here for continued discussion:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96381