Wow, all very helpful replies thanks to everyone.
I'm going to look into the Zilent V2 and U4 boba as switches, those look like great quiet alternatives to the mx browns.
It's been intimidating looking for a TKL keyboard with 5 pin hotswap compatibility and I appreciate the suggestions. I also came across the Rakk Lam Ang Pro and the OEM version might be worth buying off Alibaba given the media keys. The archon AK87 looks even nicer. Is it aluminum?
Hopefully will find something that works out, thanks again.
Yeah, the Rakk is interesting because you can buy it branded, or unbranded from several sources: AliExpress, AliBaba, local resellers. I actually bought mine as a product sample on AliBaba:
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2019-Newest-OEM-ODM-Bluetooth-keyboard_60856826465.html?spm=a2700.12243863.0.0.5f1f3e5f9FZvY7It was at the end of 2019. I bought it "loaded" after consulting their sales rep: it was the full hotswap bluetooth version and came with dampening material, 3 different top covers, and BOX White switches. It was $50 for the keyboard, but also $50 for the shipping.
The Rakk has all the features the advertisements say it has. But there are 2 things I don't like about it:
1. The design is kind of blocky, like a slab. So I don't like carrying it around. It isn't as streamlined / shaped as other TKLs.
2. The switches are oriented upside down, which could cause Cherry-profile keycaps to slam on the housings. [not an issue with non-Cherry].
But it has good features like the RGB, decent stabilizers, ability to take dampening material, media keys, and volume roller.
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The Archon AK87 is much more conventional in design. It's shaped properly like a TKL and uses what is probably standard ABS plastic. The black case goes well with many keycap sets such as Leopold blue/gray, Dolch PBT, GMK Oblivion, and so on.
It seems to have the correct N / S orientation for the hotswap slots, so I appreciate that. It's a very good typing experience. And it is quieter out-of-the-box than any of my other MX keyboards.
If you are looking for something like the AK87, but metal, you can look into the Monstargear keyboards. The XO V2 looked awesome, but had questionable stabilizers. The new V3 might have finally fixed that problem. Monstargear seems to offer a range of keyboards that have popular features like metal case and hotswap. And if KBDFans ever makes a KBD8X Lite, that would cover your needs well [except for volume wheel, unless they add one!].
Be warned that Zealio / Zilent V2 and U4, while great typing switches, are much more tactile than MX Brown. Some people disregard them for gaming, for that reason. And you'll want to make sure to at least lube the springs if you can, this is easier with U4 Boba if bought disassembled.