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Offline sandywind

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Back from middle ages
« on: Wed, 05 November 2014, 06:40:36 »
Hello! I'm the proud user of a few Model M keyboards which survived the retirement of the IBM PC.

After a dark period of low end keyboards and mice, I'm interested again in serious input hardware. Owner of a Corsair K65, I'd like  to further experiment lots of variations of the mechanical keyboard theme.
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Re: Back from middle ages
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 05 November 2014, 06:45:41 »
Welcome to GeekHack! :cool:

'just curious but what Model Ms do you still have?

Anyway, you've come to the right place to expand your mechanical keyboard experience! :thumb:
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Offline sandywind

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Re: Back from middle ages
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 05 November 2014, 11:36:03 »
Externally they all look identical, however the hardness of the switches differs. My preferred one is PN 1391401 dated 1987-03-04. Another one is PN 1396790 dated 1992-06-29. A third one lost its tag, it is similar in feel to the second one. They are all US layout. The softest one is the first one. I do not know whether it had been used a lot, or the spring specs changed from 1987 to 1992.

I wonder, should I customize them, can I expect modern keycaps manufactured by Unicomp to be compatible?
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Re: Back from middle ages
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 06 November 2014, 01:32:26 »
Quote from: sandywind on Wed, 05 November 2014, 11:36:03
Externally they all look identical, however the hardness of the switches differs. My preferred one is PN 1391401 dated 1987-03-04. Another one is PN 1396790 dated 1992-06-29. A third one lost its tag, it is similar in feel to the second one. They are all US layout. The softest one is the first one. I do not know whether it had been used a lot, or the spring specs changed from 1987 to 1992.

I wonder, should I customize them, can I expect modern keycaps manufactured by Unicomp to be compatible?

I'm still trying to find a Model M locally...I always assumed it would be easy considering how much e-waste there is around here...I need to try harder! :p

About the keycaps; yes they will fit.  Confirmed by CPTBadAss in the Simple Questions, Simple Answers thread.

Quote from: CPTBadAss on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:41:16
Quote from: juguerre on Mon, 28 April 2014, 13:38:48
Are unicomp keycaps compatible with original ibm model M keyboard?

Yup, I have Unicomp keycaps on my SSK.
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Offline sandywind

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Re: Back from middle ages
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 06 November 2014, 05:09:39 »
Quote from: infiniti on Thu, 06 November 2014, 01:32:26
I'm still trying to find a Model M locally...I always assumed it would be easy considering how much e-waste there is around here...I need to try harder! :p
I got them from my colleagues upgrading to newer machines maybe more than fifteen years ago. I never tried to find one on the market. As it may happen sometimes with old stuff, at the time I was uncultured and totally unaware of their technical value, but after trying one I immediately had the feeling it was superior to all the keyboards I had. Maybe because I had been a piano student I felt all those mushy rubber dome keyboards very uncomfortable.
Quote from: infiniti on Thu, 06 November 2014, 01:32:26
About the keycaps; yes they will fit.  Confirmed by CPTBadAss in the Simple Questions, Simple Answers thread.
I should have looked there in the first place  :-[
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Re: Back from middle ages
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 18 November 2014, 03:29:40 »
Welcome to Geekhack!

There is much love for Model M around here - I have two! :))

But variety is the spice of life, so don't let us stop you from spending your money on lots of different keyboards :p
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Re: Back from middle ages
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 02 December 2014, 06:22:26 »
Quote from: rowdy on Tue, 18 November 2014, 03:29:40
But variety is the spice of life, so don't let us stop you from spending your money on lots of different keyboards :p
Don't even try---you could not possibly stop me. :))
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Re: Back from middle ages
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 02 December 2014, 15:29:22 »
Welcome and enjoy your stay!
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