Post by: kwlodarczyk on Tue, 23 June 2020, 12:24:35
ROTR and ROTR LITE GB is starting on December 11!
ROTR - https://mechboards.co.uk/shop/group-buy/polarity-works-rotr/
ROTR LITE - https://mechboards.co.uk/shop/group-buy/polarity-works-rotr-lite-group-buy/
Extra Knobs - https://mechboards.co.uk/shop/group-buy/rotr-extra-knob-group-buy/
Colour Options
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(https://i.imgur.com/bZf7U42.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eqiacM2.jpg)
ROTR is a 3 key macropad with a big knob.
After almost 6 months of development and prototyping the ROTR has arrived. The 3 man team at polarity works have been working almost non stop to make this the last macro pad with knob you’ll ever need. Drop some switches into the minimalist anodized aluminium housing, connect the usb C connector and the ultra bright RGB lights blaze into life and you’re ready to go!
After 4 revisions the knob mechanism has been perfected, using a pair of Japanese NMB bearings to float a precision machined steel shaft underneath a beautifully anodized and tactile knob. Underneath the shaft sits a magnet and under that some air. The only contact between the knob and the shaft is through the bearings. Unlike our cheaper competitors this means there is no notchiness, no clicks and almost no resistance. You can spin this knob by blowing on it gently! If greater resistance is desired there is the provision to put magnets in the knob to allow for eddy current braking. This has previously been used on Japanese shinkansen and German ICE3 high speed trains. The resistance can be varied through 12 levels by varying the position of the magnets, and it doesn’t make a difference to the silky smooth nature of the mechanism.
The knob on the ROTR is swappable, its non-contact mechanism meaning you can just pull the magnetically attached knob off and snap on a new one. We custom machined a tapered precision interface, the design of which we will release to the community to allow for third party knobs. We will offer replacement knobs made out of aluminium, brass and copper so you can make your ROTR fit your chosen aesthetic
The ROTR is fully programmable, using QMK firmware you can set up a wonderful combination of layers and macros to your heart’s content. The profile is online on the QMK configurator so making tweaks trivial and allows for an endless amount of customisation, volume knob, scrolling through the timeline in editing software or a cad controller, the options are limitless. If you decide that even that is not enough we broke out 8 I/O pins, the programming header and the led data out pin, allowing for hacking and modification to truly make it your own, add extra buttons, a second encoder, RGB underglow. It’s all possible without tricky surface mount soldering.
We would also like to introduce it's baby brother, the ROTR LITE, with the same ludicrously over-engineered encoder! the ROTR LITE has identical pcb and knob mechanism as the ROTR, but no aluminium case. This means eddy current braking would not exist (as there is no aluminium to create those eddy currents).
Group Buy Dates:
Start Date: 11th December 2020 12:00 AM GMT
End Date: 11th January 2021 12:00 AM GMT / when spots are filled
GB limits:
ROTR - 200 units max
ROTR LITE - 500 units max
Knobs - 1400 units max
Buying limits:
ROTR - limited to 1 per person
ROTR LITE - no limits
Knobs - no limits
Pricing:
Kits
kits do not come with a magnet kit, which is required for eddy current braking
ROTR with alu knob: £168.00
ROTR with brass knob: £180.00
ROTR with copper knob: £186.00
ROTR LITE with alu knob: £108.00
ROTR LITE with brass knob: £120.00
ROTR LITE with copper knob: £126.00
Optional extras:
ROTR case only: £120.00
Knob only (alu): £48.00
Knob only (brass): £60.00
Knob only (copper): £66.00
Magnet kit (6 countersunk magnets + screws): £14.40
Color options:
Silver aluminium anodized case
Black aluminium anodized case
Silver aluminium anodized knob
Black aluminium anodized knob
Brass sandblasted knob
Copper sandblasted knob
Vendors:
Worldwide: Mechboards https://mechboards.co.uk/shop/group-buy/polarity-works-rotr/
Page will be up soon
Estimated Dates:
11th Dec 2020 - Start GB
11th Jan 2021 - End GB
Q1 2021 - Manufacturing
Q2 2021 - assembly by Polarity Works, delivery to mechboards
Q3 2021 - shipping to buyers
ROTR - https://mechboards.co.uk/shop/group-buy/polarity-works-rotr/
ROTR LITE - https://mechboards.co.uk/shop/group-buy/polarity-works-rotr-lite-group-buy/
Extra Knobs - https://mechboards.co.uk/shop/group-buy/rotr-extra-knob-group-buy/
Colour Options
(https://i.imgur.com/B9aMaMG.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TEEVZ4T.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rJ0Va1h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/BUznmGc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6Bxeyzx.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dio2Cax.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9zKOQLw.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/j6pZovw.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bZf7U42.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eqiacM2.jpg)
ROTR is a 3 key macropad with a big knob.
After almost 6 months of development and prototyping the ROTR has arrived. The 3 man team at polarity works have been working almost non stop to make this the last macro pad with knob you’ll ever need. Drop some switches into the minimalist anodized aluminium housing, connect the usb C connector and the ultra bright RGB lights blaze into life and you’re ready to go!
After 4 revisions the knob mechanism has been perfected, using a pair of Japanese NMB bearings to float a precision machined steel shaft underneath a beautifully anodized and tactile knob. Underneath the shaft sits a magnet and under that some air. The only contact between the knob and the shaft is through the bearings. Unlike our cheaper competitors this means there is no notchiness, no clicks and almost no resistance. You can spin this knob by blowing on it gently! If greater resistance is desired there is the provision to put magnets in the knob to allow for eddy current braking. This has previously been used on Japanese shinkansen and German ICE3 high speed trains. The resistance can be varied through 12 levels by varying the position of the magnets, and it doesn’t make a difference to the silky smooth nature of the mechanism.
The knob on the ROTR is swappable, its non-contact mechanism meaning you can just pull the magnetically attached knob off and snap on a new one. We custom machined a tapered precision interface, the design of which we will release to the community to allow for third party knobs. We will offer replacement knobs made out of aluminium, brass and copper so you can make your ROTR fit your chosen aesthetic
The ROTR is fully programmable, using QMK firmware you can set up a wonderful combination of layers and macros to your heart’s content. The profile is online on the QMK configurator so making tweaks trivial and allows for an endless amount of customisation, volume knob, scrolling through the timeline in editing software or a cad controller, the options are limitless. If you decide that even that is not enough we broke out 8 I/O pins, the programming header and the led data out pin, allowing for hacking and modification to truly make it your own, add extra buttons, a second encoder, RGB underglow. It’s all possible without tricky surface mount soldering.
We would also like to introduce it's baby brother, the ROTR LITE, with the same ludicrously over-engineered encoder! the ROTR LITE has identical pcb and knob mechanism as the ROTR, but no aluminium case. This means eddy current braking would not exist (as there is no aluminium to create those eddy currents).
Group Buy Dates:
Start Date: 11th December 2020 12:00 AM GMT
End Date: 11th January 2021 12:00 AM GMT / when spots are filled
GB limits:
ROTR - 200 units max
ROTR LITE - 500 units max
Knobs - 1400 units max
Buying limits:
ROTR - limited to 1 per person
ROTR LITE - no limits
Knobs - no limits
Pricing:
Kits
kits do not come with a magnet kit, which is required for eddy current braking
ROTR with alu knob: £168.00
ROTR with brass knob: £180.00
ROTR with copper knob: £186.00
ROTR LITE with alu knob: £108.00
ROTR LITE with brass knob: £120.00
ROTR LITE with copper knob: £126.00
Optional extras:
ROTR case only: £120.00
Knob only (alu): £48.00
Knob only (brass): £60.00
Knob only (copper): £66.00
Magnet kit (6 countersunk magnets + screws): £14.40
Color options:
Silver aluminium anodized case
Black aluminium anodized case
Silver aluminium anodized knob
Black aluminium anodized knob
Brass sandblasted knob
Copper sandblasted knob
Vendors:
Worldwide: Mechboards https://mechboards.co.uk/shop/group-buy/polarity-works-rotr/
Page will be up soon
Estimated Dates:
11th Dec 2020 - Start GB
11th Jan 2021 - End GB
Q1 2021 - Manufacturing
Q2 2021 - assembly by Polarity Works, delivery to mechboards
Q3 2021 - shipping to buyers
17 October Update - Final Prototypes are Here!
I didn’t think I’ll be making a ROTR post this quick, but I am ecstatic to announce that the final prototype has gotten to us and it is perfect! This time we worked very closely with the manufacturer to get the finish we were after and it has really paid off.
The prototypes will be sent to me from Japan on Monday and I will assemble them with the PCBs and do a final inspection. Be sure to keep an eye out for a GB announcement in the near future!
05 September Update:I didn’t think I’ll be making a ROTR post this quick, but I am ecstatic to announce that the final prototype has gotten to us and it is perfect! This time we worked very closely with the manufacturer to get the finish we were after and it has really paid off.
The prototypes will be sent to me from Japan on Monday and I will assemble them with the PCBs and do a final inspection. Be sure to keep an eye out for a GB announcement in the near future!
Hey everyone! Sorry for the lack of updates lately, my package with the prototype parts got held up at customs. Now that I have my hands of them I am very pleased to say that everything works and it looks great! The PCB took a bit of fiddling with to get working but after a few bodge wires, it fired into life.
Unfortunately, under the closer inspection of the CNC parts, we found many defects and problems that just couldn't be overlooked. The majority of these were cosmetic problems with the parts, things like deep tool marks on the knobs and cases or less than brilliant tolerances. In short, we no longer feel that the CNC company that made the prototypes can be trusted with large scale production and we are looking at another company. This will set the schedule back a bit but should ensure that the products that get to you guys are of high quality. We are also taking this time to try a new way of mounting the knobs that will let them be interchangeable, here's a video of a 3d printed prototype spinning!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SAGFUmZ65JX3VOrx6Qc7cpZHrHblcji6/view?usp=sharing
We know that not all of you want the knob to spin quite as much so we are also working on a way that will let you tune how much resistance there is on the knob. We'll keep you updated on this but I can promise you that it's very cool!
There are also a few other projects that we have been working on during all of this waiting around, keep an eye out for them in the next few weeks!
I am also very excited to announce that the vendor for the ROTR will be Mechboards!
And finally, we want to thank you all for the huge amount of interest and support you have shown for this project. I would have never been possible if not for you guys!
21 July Update:
The anodizing is now done, it's looking pretty good! There was a slight mix up and the CNC company accidentally made the knobs in copper instead of brass. What do you guys think of the sandblasted copper knob?
(https://i.imgur.com/WiVWW8R.jpg)
16 July Update:
The CNC company is done machining our initial prototypes, they just need to be anodized before they're ready!
Check out our Discord for more updates like these!
(https://i.imgur.com/bDwnv8n.jpg)
Here's a look at the prototype PCB too!
(https://i.imgur.com/4pEYh3z.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4pEYh3z.jpg)
Concepts
Here are some renders of the ROTR with the KAT Iron and GMK Copper keycaps. A huge thank you to @fatboycarney for all of the help!
Be sure to check out the KAT Iron IC - https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105689.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105689.0)
As well as The Carnival Discord, he designed the beautiful keycaps you see here and more! - https://discord.gg/sb6jsyQ (https://discord.gg/sb6jsyQ)
GMK Copper
(https://i.imgur.com/NYdOHBT.jpg)
KAT Iron
(https://i.imgur.com/mSqa1v1.jpg)
If you like how these look it would be really useful if you could tell us here - https://forms.gle/e7nyy8VqFjZz9W8V7 (https://forms.gle/e7nyy8VqFjZz9W8V7)
ORIGINAL POST
Hey everyone!
Thank you for the huge amount of interest and feedback after the last post. We are turning this idea into reality!
Design Inspiration
The design takes inspiration from 20th century industrial design, with heavy references to the work of designer Dieter Rams and products like the Leica IIIg Chrome.
The ROTR sports gentle curves that cup your fingers when using the knob, while the rest of the case has quiet, rounded corners meant to pair well with most aluminium keyboards.
Features:
INTERCHANGEABLE KNOBS!
USB C
CNC milled aluminium case
Solid brass / aluminium knob
Free spinning magnetic rotary encoder
Rubber feet
Extra features (based on the amazing feedback from you guys since the last post):
QMK support, will ship pre-programmed and ready to use!
Hot swap switch sockets
RGB LEDs for switches
New black and brass colour scheme
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/rotr (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/rotr)
Pricing
The pricing will be announced when we receive the new case and knob prototypes from the CNC company.
As there were many requests for this, I am happy to say that there will be international shipping!
Moving forward
Case prototypes have been ordered, and will be delivered in roughly 3 weeks.
The PCB prototype has been ordered and will be delivered in roughly 2 weeks.
Fully working prototype assembled in hopefully 4 weeks.
If the finish of the machined parts is high enough quality then GB will start.
Update Summary
23/06/2020 Initial IC post
01/07/2020 More renders added, features confirmed
16/07/2020 Case and knob ready to be anodized, PCB prototype pictures
21/07/2020 Case and knob have been anodised, suprise copper knob
05/09/2020 Prototypes received, fully working prototype, new prototypes to be ordered, vendor announced
Feedback
We’d love to hear your guy's thoughts and comments on this project so far, any suggestions would be super helpful!
The IC form has been updated to give you guys a better look at the knob options, as well as some other info we think would help in planning our upcoming Group Buy.
https://forms.gle/UgeRqf52kf83DHKj6 (https://forms.gle/UgeRqf52kf83DHKj6)
Join our Discord server for the latest updates!
https://discord.gg/nuknf9K (https://discord.gg/nuknf9K)
Check out our Instagram here!
https://www.instagram.com/polarityworks/ (https://www.instagram.com/polarityworks/)
If you like how these look it would be really useful if you could tell us here - https://forms.gle/e7nyy8VqFjZz9W8V7 (https://forms.gle/e7nyy8VqFjZz9W8V7)
ORIGINAL POST
Hey everyone!
Thank you for the huge amount of interest and feedback after the last post. We are turning this idea into reality!
(https://i.imgur.com/htwDHnV.jpg)
Design Inspiration
The design takes inspiration from 20th century industrial design, with heavy references to the work of designer Dieter Rams and products like the Leica IIIg Chrome.
The ROTR sports gentle curves that cup your fingers when using the knob, while the rest of the case has quiet, rounded corners meant to pair well with most aluminium keyboards.
(https://i.imgur.com/ICYJJ4l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Dd8dgxe.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Dd8dgxe.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Q3uiDX2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/cRQx3eT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/y6OmjBj.jpg)
PCB
(https://i.imgur.com/EDFzjEh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EDFzjEh.jpg)
Features:
INTERCHANGEABLE KNOBS!
USB C
CNC milled aluminium case
Solid brass / aluminium knob
Free spinning magnetic rotary encoder
Rubber feet
Extra features (based on the amazing feedback from you guys since the last post):
QMK support, will ship pre-programmed and ready to use!
Hot swap switch sockets
RGB LEDs for switches
New black and brass colour scheme
https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/rotr (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/rotr)
Pricing
The pricing will be announced when we receive the new case and knob prototypes from the CNC company.
As there were many requests for this, I am happy to say that there will be international shipping!
Moving forward
Case prototypes have been ordered, and will be delivered in roughly 3 weeks.
The PCB prototype has been ordered and will be delivered in roughly 2 weeks.
Fully working prototype assembled in hopefully 4 weeks.
If the finish of the machined parts is high enough quality then GB will start.
Update Summary
23/06/2020 Initial IC post
01/07/2020 More renders added, features confirmed
16/07/2020 Case and knob ready to be anodized, PCB prototype pictures
21/07/2020 Case and knob have been anodised, suprise copper knob
05/09/2020 Prototypes received, fully working prototype, new prototypes to be ordered, vendor announced
Feedback
We’d love to hear your guy's thoughts and comments on this project so far, any suggestions would be super helpful!
The IC form has been updated to give you guys a better look at the knob options, as well as some other info we think would help in planning our upcoming Group Buy.
https://forms.gle/UgeRqf52kf83DHKj6 (https://forms.gle/UgeRqf52kf83DHKj6)
Join our Discord server for the latest updates!
https://discord.gg/nuknf9K (https://discord.gg/nuknf9K)
Check out our Instagram here!
https://www.instagram.com/polarityworks/ (https://www.instagram.com/polarityworks/)
Post by: SxM Designs on Tue, 23 June 2020, 12:38:00
Post by: kyounger on Tue, 23 June 2020, 13:04:01
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Tue, 23 June 2020, 13:20:14
Is the knob an infinite turn, or can you turn only so far clockwise/counterclockwise?
It's infinite turn
Post by: breckstar on Tue, 23 June 2020, 13:37:02
If its infinite turn, I would suggest the knob have no notch for indication as it does not have any meaning.Is the knob an infinite turn, or can you turn only so far clockwise/counterclockwise?
It's infinite turn
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Tue, 23 June 2020, 13:48:48
If its infinite turn, I would suggest the knob have no notch for indication as it does not have any meaning.Is the knob an infinite turn, or can you turn only so far clockwise/counterclockwise?
It's infinite turn
The idea behind the notch is as a place for your finger to grab when you're turning it. One of the knobs we're considering has no notch, if people prefer that, then that's what we'll go with.
Post by: lamonayon on Tue, 23 June 2020, 14:00:56
Post by: nebluh on Tue, 23 June 2020, 15:27:20
Post by: ArtVandelay on Tue, 23 June 2020, 15:55:47
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Tue, 23 June 2020, 16:00:07
I really love this. I filled out the feedback form and noted that a polished black case with the matte brass knob would be a really slick option! But I understand options are limited. I'm looking forward to seeing how this turns out!
Thank you! A lot of people have been asking for the black and brass colour scheme, there seems to be enough interest for another run in the future!
Post by: MajorKoos on Tue, 23 June 2020, 16:08:03
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 23 June 2020, 16:22:37
If its infinite turn, I would suggest the knob have no notch for indication as it does not have any meaning.Is the knob an infinite turn, or can you turn only so far clockwise/counterclockwise?
It's infinite turn
I agree with this but looks great either way
Post by: kimchijody on Tue, 23 June 2020, 16:44:14
This would also probably need a custom PCB with QMK/VIA support. Do you have a proto in the works for that as well or is that still in the works?
Post by: S3LQ on Tue, 23 June 2020, 16:48:50
Post by: Bax on Tue, 23 June 2020, 17:15:24
Post by: Surface on Tue, 23 June 2020, 23:33:44
Post by: paulgali on Wed, 24 June 2020, 03:12:54
Post by: Pluto19 on Wed, 24 June 2020, 03:36:01
Post by: manaorme on Wed, 24 June 2020, 03:37:55
More than 3keys is too much for me.
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Wed, 24 June 2020, 03:41:25
Been looking for a pad like this so very interested. Filled out the form. I would love another row of keys for a total of 6. Also I assume the USB would be on the knob-side of the case? Additionally, I have to assume that this uses a custom PCB?
This would also probably need a custom PCB with QMK/VIA support. Do you have a proto in the works for that as well or is that still in the works?
Yes, there's a USB C port on the knob side of the case. I'm designing the pcb at the moment and it'll have QMK support, I'll make an update when I make more progress on it!
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Wed, 24 June 2020, 03:43:53
Any details on the specific encoder? Less pulses = larger throw distance, good for big knobs ;D
I'm actually making my own encoder! It will use a magnet and a sensing chip, I'll be able to program the number of pulses. Also, none of the parts will be in contact with each other so it will be really nice and smooth!
Post by: Shiro on Wed, 24 June 2020, 03:47:05
Post by: holer on Wed, 24 June 2020, 03:49:03
Are you planning on making it wireless?
Post by: bananasplit_00 on Wed, 24 June 2020, 03:53:44
Gimme(unless its very expensive)
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Wed, 24 June 2020, 05:32:18
Looks great! :D
Are you planning on making it wireless?
I'd love to in future runs!
Post by: manaorme on Wed, 24 June 2020, 05:52:45
Any details on the specific encoder? Less pulses = larger throw distance, good for big knobs ;D
I'm actually making my own encoder! It will use a magnet and a sensing chip, I'll be able to program the number of pulses. Also, none of the parts will be in contact with each other so it will be really nice and smooth!
Extra encoder available?
I would like to have one or two extra encoders.
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Wed, 24 June 2020, 06:21:46
Any details on the specific encoder? Less pulses = larger throw distance, good for big knobs ;D
I'm actually making my own encoder! It will use a magnet and a sensing chip, I'll be able to program the number of pulses. Also, none of the parts will be in contact with each other so it will be really nice and smooth!
Extra encoder available?
I would like to have one or two extra encoders.
I'd love to send you some but the encoder is an integral part of the knob. Unfortunately you'd have to machine an enclosure for it
Post by: Pach on Wed, 24 June 2020, 07:47:28
Post by: Solotov on Wed, 24 June 2020, 08:35:22
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Wed, 24 June 2020, 08:41:44
Add an extra row to make it 6 keys please. And I'll be definitely in! ;D
If you leave your email on the feedback form I'll let you know if we do it!
Post by: nebluh on Wed, 24 June 2020, 09:39:38
Post by: cypis666 on Wed, 24 June 2020, 16:43:39
Post by: DuellM on Wed, 24 June 2020, 22:26:18
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Post by: riterdando on Thu, 25 June 2020, 01:50:31
I would like to have 6 keys, like someone else mentioned above.
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 25 June 2020, 04:36:31
For the knob, aluminum or steel would be best.
Post by: syke on Thu, 25 June 2020, 05:27:30
Post by: TacoTypes on Thu, 25 June 2020, 15:44:50
Looks really nice. If the price is decent, I am all in!^^^
Post by: yoniwolf1202 on Thu, 25 June 2020, 20:48:59
Post by: 1corazon on Thu, 25 June 2020, 23:44:02
Some advise - If this is CNC out of a solid piece of aluminium i will definitely buy this.
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Fri, 26 June 2020, 03:59:52
What sets this apart from something like the CU7 from capsunlocked?
The knob! I have designed my own magnetic rotary encoder so that it doesn't have detents and feels frictionless to turn. Like the scroll wheel on a Logitech MX Master mouse.
As for the functionality. It also has qmk, hot-swap sockets and USB C, just the one though. RGB is also a possibility.
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Fri, 26 June 2020, 04:02:33
PLEASE MAKE THIS !!! For the love of god PLEASE - This look wicked!!!.
Some advise - If this is CNC out of a solid piece of aluminium i will definitely buy this.
Thank you! Yes, the case is CNCed from a solid piece of aluminium. Solid brass knob too!
Post by: SxM Designs on Fri, 26 June 2020, 05:56:00
Post by: Solotov on Fri, 26 June 2020, 06:33:24
What sets this apart from something like the CU7 from capsunlocked?
- Knob
- Material (brass)
- Color
- Faster GB (maybe) ;D
Post by: yoniwolf1202 on Fri, 26 June 2020, 06:35:30
So then I would be interested depending on the price so kind of a paradox lolWhat sets this apart from something like the CU7 from capsunlocked?
- Knob
- Material (brass)
- Color
- Faster GB (maybe) ;D
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Post by: kwlodarczyk on Fri, 26 June 2020, 07:35:22
I can see you are from the UK but are you also considering selling this from the EU. Asking because of taxes!
Sorry, not for this run. Potentially in the future though!
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Fri, 26 June 2020, 07:37:32
So then I would be interested depending on the price so kind of a paradox lolWhat sets this apart from something like the CU7 from capsunlocked?
- Knob
- Material (brass)
- Color
- Faster GB (maybe) ;D
Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk
Will be announcing the price as soon as we have a prototype from the CNC company!
Post by: yoniwolf1202 on Fri, 26 June 2020, 07:38:21
Is there a rough ETA on that or is it up in the air due to covid?So then I would be interested depending on the price so kind of a paradox lolWhat sets this apart from something like the CU7 from capsunlocked?
- Knob
- Material (brass)
- Color
- Faster GB (maybe) ;D
Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk
Will be announcing the price as soon as we have a prototype from the CNC company!
Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk
Post by: SxM Designs on Fri, 26 June 2020, 08:02:48
Post by: simimax on Fri, 26 June 2020, 08:34:00
Post by: DogSpark on Fri, 26 June 2020, 14:05:50
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Fri, 26 June 2020, 15:11:53
Is there a rough ETA on that or is it up in the air due to covid?So then I would be interested depending on the price so kind of a paradox lolWhat sets this apart from something like the CU7 from capsunlocked?
- Knob
- Material (brass)
- Color
- Faster GB (maybe) ;D
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Will be announcing the price as soon as we have a prototype from the CNC company!
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I honestly can't give you a useful ETA until I get a prototype from the CNC company. If they can make it a high enough quality then the group buy might be starting in the next month or two otherwise it might be another month or two on top of that. It could even be sooner, I just don't know at the minute.
There'll be an update fairly soon, I've been making great progress with the PCB!
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Post by: EST4R on Sun, 28 June 2020, 17:47:15
Please make sure there's no gap between keycaps and case on the final product, or it would look really bad :(
Post by: lavethyst on Sun, 28 June 2020, 22:31:31
Post by: mateuszwlo on Wed, 01 July 2020, 14:37:18
Post by: General_Pretzel on Wed, 01 July 2020, 14:50:44
As for suggestions, it would be awesome to have a knob option with some texture on the sides of the knob rather than only on the top. Also, offering additional knobs to purchase separately in the GB would be stellar!
Ideas for additional knob/texture designs:
Knurled Knob: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSYyuxGNQBC7JYfCAtdkjWRw1WH8zc42vi1_RqONpLU5aqxWpV4j7uTGaYmIbKJaVplcVbe6jA&usqp=CAc (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSYyuxGNQBC7JYfCAtdkjWRw1WH8zc42vi1_RqONpLU5aqxWpV4j7uTGaYmIbKJaVplcVbe6jA&usqp=CAc)
OR
Gripped Knob:
https://industrialcomponentsgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/products/195/195.jpg (https://industrialcomponentsgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/products/195/195.jpg)
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Wed, 01 July 2020, 15:03:13
Posted this on Reddit already, but to ensure visibility, here it is again:
As for suggestions, it would be awesome to have a knob option with some texture on the sides of the knob rather than only on the top. Also, offering additional knobs to purchase separately in the GB would be stellar!
Ideas for additional knob/texture designs:
Knurled Knob: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSYyuxGNQBC7JYfCAtdkjWRw1WH8zc42vi1_RqONpLU5aqxWpV4j7uTGaYmIbKJaVplcVbe6jA&usqp=CAc (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSYyuxGNQBC7JYfCAtdkjWRw1WH8zc42vi1_RqONpLU5aqxWpV4j7uTGaYmIbKJaVplcVbe6jA&usqp=CAc)
OR
Gripped Knob:
https://industrialcomponentsgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/products/195/195.jpg (https://industrialcomponentsgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/products/195/195.jpg)
Thank you for the feedback! I've made a note of it and I'll try some renders to see how it looks!
Post by: Neryus on Wed, 01 July 2020, 16:50:56
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Wed, 01 July 2020, 17:46:07
Looks great. I would be all over a 6 key version of this.
This seems to be a pretty popular request, keep an eye out for it in the future!
Post by: syke on Wed, 01 July 2020, 18:09:17
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Post by: Xerra on Thu, 02 July 2020, 00:58:40
Post by: Yeoh on Thu, 02 July 2020, 01:08:02
+1 for 6 key version!Looks great. I would be all over a 6 key version of this.
This seems to be a pretty popular request, keep an eye out for it in the future!
Post by: Solotov on Thu, 02 July 2020, 01:38:26
Looks great. I would be all over a 6 key version of this.
This seems to be a pretty popular request, keep an eye out for it in the future!
How about making it as the first version? ;D
Post by: Hesi on Thu, 02 July 2020, 04:26:41
Post by: Kasuka3497 on Thu, 02 July 2020, 12:57:24
I would like a gray variant as well, though probably will pick the black as well. Just think a grey and brass scheme like the Atlas 5x12 would make this look awesome (and I get to match them, more reason to not miss this!)
Please try a 6 key version? That would transform this into an ultimate macropad that I, for one, can't afford to miss. I always wanted one with 2 rotary knobs and 6 keys but this one makes up for it even now.... So 6 keys would make it the endgame Macropad for me.
And maybe a slight angle? 2°?
EDIT: Keep that notched knob... <3
Post by: TheYeti on Thu, 02 July 2020, 18:52:03
I think I'd prefer no indicator on the knob - it kind of loses it's meaning if there are no upper and lower bounds to the rotation.
Post by: jayeforu on Thu, 02 July 2020, 19:09:33
Post by: Kasuka3497 on Thu, 02 July 2020, 23:09:09
Post by: harlekein on Fri, 03 July 2020, 02:59:54
Please keep this at 3. I wouldn't know what to do with 3 more keys and this makes me prefer it.
Post by: danieljgrouse on Fri, 03 July 2020, 03:34:30
Post by: Kasuka3497 on Fri, 03 July 2020, 05:58:32
The Grey color and slight angle are a bit more important to me.
Post by: WHAT!? on Fri, 03 July 2020, 22:09:42
Well I just filled out the form but I'm going to leave my comments from that here as well.
I'd love to see something like this with a stepped potentiometer in place of the rotary encoder. How possible this is I can't say as I'm not that familiar with what is involved in setting this up as an input option for a PC. All I can say is I still own a Pioneer stereo from the 1970's (an SA-7800) and NOTHING I have ever used feels as good as the volume knob on that thing. It feels exactly as heavy and precise as it should. It would be amazing to have that exact thing to use on a PC.
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Sat, 04 July 2020, 05:11:20
3 keys, 6 keys... I'm in either way. This thing looks dope, I got a split keyboard on the way, this thing can fit right in the middle just perfect. :thumb:
Well I just filled out the form but I'm going to leave my comments from that here as well.
I'd love to see something like this with a stepped potentiometer in place of the rotary encoder. How possible this is I can't say as I'm not that familiar with what is involved in setting this up as an input option for a PC. All I can say is I still own a Pioneer stereo from the 1970's (an SA-7800) and NOTHING I have ever used feels as good as the volume knob on that thing. It feels exactly as heavy and precise as it should. It would be amazing to have that exact thing to use on a PC.
That's a really cool idea! I'm not sure if it would work in this form factor as the potentiometers tend to be fairly large. It could be an option for a future project though!
Post by: marshskitow on Sat, 04 July 2020, 05:46:50
Hello I love knobs and would like to thank you for your contribution, you are a hero my friendWhat a surprise ! You love knobs ? Didn’t know that
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Post by: Diggidy on Sat, 04 July 2020, 06:19:32
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Post by: WHAT!? on Sat, 04 July 2020, 09:33:26
3 keys, 6 keys... I'm in either way. This thing looks dope, I got a split keyboard on the way, this thing can fit right in the middle just perfect. :thumb:
Well I just filled out the form but I'm going to leave my comments from that here as well.
I'd love to see something like this with a stepped potentiometer in place of the rotary encoder. How possible this is I can't say as I'm not that familiar with what is involved in setting this up as an input option for a PC. All I can say is I still own a Pioneer stereo from the 1970's (an SA-7800) and NOTHING I have ever used feels as good as the volume knob on that thing. It feels exactly as heavy and precise as it should. It would be amazing to have that exact thing to use on a PC.
That's a really cool idea! I'm not sure if it would work in this form factor as the potentiometers tend to be fairly large. It could be an option for a future project though!
Yes you are right, I wasn't thinking about the issue of how thick that component actually is. Still enthusiastic about what is on offer here though, and if you do decide to work out a project in the future that does fit in a stepped potentiometer I'd definitely be all in there as well!
Post by: Kasuka3497 on Sat, 04 July 2020, 16:22:58
Post by: puq on Sun, 05 July 2020, 12:51:18
Post by: davydav on Tue, 07 July 2020, 08:02:44
Quote
Free spinning magnetic rotary encoder
Does this mean that there is no resistance at all when turning the knob ?
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Tue, 07 July 2020, 12:10:52
QuoteFree spinning magnetic rotary encoder
Does this mean that there is no resistance at all when turning the knob ?
Yes! It'll be like the scroll wheel on the Logitech MX Master
Post by: danieljgrouse on Tue, 07 July 2020, 12:15:49
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Tue, 07 July 2020, 13:19:50
That makes me very happy because I actually intend to use it as a stand-alone scroll wheel. I miss the Kensington Expert Mouse scroll ring on other trackballs and this seems like a great solution. Will it be heavy and smooth enough to have some momentum? (To let it spin freely if you nudge it hard enough.)
It should be, I've been playing around with the bearings I plan on using and they spin for about 1s. With the knob, there'll be a lot more momentum so it should spin for much longer!
I'll be posting a video of it spinning when I get the prototypes
Post by: skyyyy on Sat, 11 July 2020, 19:59:55
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Post by: kwlodarczyk on Fri, 17 July 2020, 15:56:16
I'm definitely intrigued. I'd love to see how well the knob spins freely when the proto is put together.
It should spin really well, there aren't any parts that are in contact with each other. The only friction will come from the bearings
Here's a link to a test of the encoder chip - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pPAv9PewBg512wwro1o7rLLC9ZoXgD3a/view?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pPAv9PewBg512wwro1o7rLLC9ZoXgD3a/view?usp=sharing)
There's a magnet at the end of the pencil but it's not actually in contact with the chip, there's a 1.5mm gap
Post by: perry4761 on Sat, 18 July 2020, 17:04:01
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Post by: kwlodarczyk on Sun, 19 July 2020, 16:15:51
Do we have any news about the pricing ? It would be lovely to know if i have to call my bank or if i can afford it
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There'll be news on pricing fairly soon. I'm just waiting on the prototypes to get to me from the CNC place
Post by: SxM Designs on Sun, 19 July 2020, 16:19:50
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Sun, 19 July 2020, 16:30:14
Is the price been estimated yet?
I do have a very rough estimate but there's still too many unknown factors for it to be accurate. Once the prototype gets to me I'll be able to give a concrete price. Hopefully, that will be in the next couple of weeks
Post by: evorus5 on Mon, 20 July 2020, 00:00:20
Post by: Polyzhu on Mon, 20 July 2020, 15:23:08
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Tue, 21 July 2020, 06:51:43
This looks great, definitely interested in this project!
Thank you! I can't wait to get my hands on the prototypes!
Post by: fatboycarney on Tue, 21 July 2020, 23:53:25
Post by: puq on Wed, 22 July 2020, 00:34:46
Post by: SxM Designs on Wed, 22 July 2020, 00:52:50
Is the price been estimated yet?
I do have a very rough estimate but there's still too many unknown factors for it to be accurate. Once the prototype gets to me I'll be able to give a concrete price. Hopefully, that will be in the next couple of weeks
Can I get a very rough estimate? It doesnot have to be accurate, just a ballpack value is okay.
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Wed, 22 July 2020, 01:41:59
Copper looks nice but is very prone to tarnishing and discoloration. I used to make lots of copper jewelry and after handling a piece repeatedly it would turn a dark brown/greenish color from the oils on your hands. Prototype looks amazing! I don't have a ton of experience with brass, I do know it can discolor, but not sure if it happens quite as easily as it does with copper.
My thoughts are similar. I think the copper looks nice, but it will stop looking nice pretty quickly if left uncoated. I have extensive experience working with copper cookware. It is beautiful and high performance but extremely high maintenance. The copper knob would need to be coated, in which case I would just assume go the PVD brass route that is becoming more and more popular with keyboard stuff. Between copper and anodized aluminum, I would personally prefer aluminum. Aluminum also offers color and finish options: anodizing, e coat, cerakote. It's also cheaper.
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Wed, 22 July 2020, 06:59:38
Copper looks nice but is very prone to tarnishing and discoloration. I used to make lots of copper jewelry and after handling a piece repeatedly it would turn a dark brown/greenish color from the oils on your hands. Prototype looks amazing! I don't have a ton of experience with brass, I do know it can discolor, but not sure if it happens quite as easily as it does with copper.
My thoughts are similar. I think the copper looks nice, but it will stop looking nice pretty quickly if left uncoated. I have extensive experience working with copper cookware. It is beautiful and high performance but extremely high maintenance. The copper knob would need to be coated, in which case I would just assume go the PVD brass route that is becoming more and more popular with keyboard stuff. Between copper and anodized aluminum, I would personally prefer aluminum. Aluminum also offers color and finish options: anodizing, e coat, cerakote. It's also cheaper.
The copper and brass knobs will definitely be pvd coated, I'd find it really annoying if they got discoloured. We are also considering a copper knob with a patina, I'll upload renders of it later.
I'm hoping to make the knob material an option but that would depend on how many people were interested.
Post by: wholypantalones on Wed, 22 July 2020, 08:05:40
The knob looks best with no design or just the notch, it looks too busy otherwise.
Three switches is perfect, six might be overkill.
I just bought a cheap usb knob from Amazon for my desktop so I'd definitely love to replace it with this one instead.
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Wed, 22 July 2020, 08:56:10
I would prefer the knob be anodized the same color as the case or at least contrasting anodizing colors if possible, no polished brass, aluminum or copper.
The knob looks best with no design or just the notch, it looks too busy otherwise.
Three switches is perfect, six might be overkill.
I just bought a cheap usb knob from Amazon for my desktop so I'd definitely love to replace it with this one instead.
We are currently looking into options to do different colours, but we would only be able to do the two most popular ones otherwise it would get far too expensive.
What do you think of a silver anodised knob and matching case?
Post by: catamscott on Wed, 22 July 2020, 14:40:22
Post by: thethomaszhou on Wed, 22 July 2020, 18:24:17
Copper looks nice but is very prone to tarnishing and discoloration. I used to make lots of copper jewelry and after handling a piece repeatedly it would turn a dark brown/greenish color from the oils on your hands. Prototype looks amazing! I don't have a ton of experience with brass, I do know it can discolor, but not sure if it happens quite as easily as it does with copper.
My thoughts are similar. I think the copper looks nice, but it will stop looking nice pretty quickly if left uncoated. I have extensive experience working with copper cookware. It is beautiful and high performance but extremely high maintenance. The copper knob would need to be coated, in which case I would just assume go the PVD brass route that is becoming more and more popular with keyboard stuff. Between copper and anodized aluminum, I would personally prefer aluminum. Aluminum also offers color and finish options: anodizing, e coat, cerakote. It's also cheaper.
The copper and brass knobs will definitely be pvd coated, I'd find it really annoying if they got discoloured. We are also considering a copper knob with a patina, I'll upload renders of it later.
I'm hoping to make the knob material an option but that would depend on how many people were interested.
Yeah, I'm really diggin' that copper knob. I'm excited to see this copper with patina render you guys are thinking of, but it would increase the price significantly though right? I also think PVD might be too shiny, but I don't have anything with PVD coating currently, so what do I know?
Post by: wholypantalones on Wed, 22 July 2020, 20:22:23
I would prefer the knob be anodized the same color as the case or at least contrasting anodizing colors if possible, no polished brass, aluminum or copper.
The knob looks best with no design or just the notch, it looks too busy otherwise.
Three switches is perfect, six might be overkill.
I just bought a cheap usb knob from Amazon for my desktop so I'd definitely love to replace it with this one instead.
We are currently looking into options to do different colours, but we would only be able to do the two most popular ones otherwise it would get far too expensive.
What do you think of a silver anodised knob and matching case?
Silver anodizing would be a nice choice
Post by: syke on Thu, 23 July 2020, 06:24:53
The Cooper hammered finish is awesome... Keep it simple like this without all that knurling and grooves.
(https://i.imgur.com/e9YvY9b.jpg)
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Thu, 23 July 2020, 06:56:54
Copper looks nice but is very prone to tarnishing and discoloration. I used to make lots of copper jewelry and after handling a piece repeatedly it would turn a dark brown/greenish color from the oils on your hands. Prototype looks amazing! I don't have a ton of experience with brass, I do know it can discolor, but not sure if it happens quite as easily as it does with copper.
My thoughts are similar. I think the copper looks nice, but it will stop looking nice pretty quickly if left uncoated. I have extensive experience working with copper cookware. It is beautiful and high performance but extremely high maintenance. The copper knob would need to be coated, in which case I would just assume go the PVD brass route that is becoming more and more popular with keyboard stuff. Between copper and anodized aluminum, I would personally prefer aluminum. Aluminum also offers color and finish options: anodizing, e coat, cerakote. It's also cheaper.
The copper and brass knobs will definitely be pvd coated, I'd find it really annoying if they got discoloured. We are also considering a copper knob with a patina, I'll upload renders of it later.
I'm hoping to make the knob material an option but that would depend on how many people were interested.
Yeah, I'm really diggin' that copper knob. I'm excited to see this copper with patina render you guys are thinking of, but it would increase the price significantly though right? I also think PVD might be too shiny, but I don't have anything with PVD coating currently, so what do I know?
I'm still not sure about the copper knob with the patina, once we get the prototypes I'll be able to tell you if it will increase the cost significantly. As for the pvd coating, I hope it's not going to be too shiny but I won't know for sure until I see the prototypes.
Post by: harlekein on Thu, 23 July 2020, 08:45:31
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Post by: catamscott on Thu, 23 July 2020, 18:04:37
Any chance for e-white cerakote?
e-white = white coating via electrophoresis, different than cerakoting
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Thu, 23 July 2020, 18:28:43
Any chance for e-white cerakote?
e-white = white coating via electrophoresis, different than cerakoting
Even if cerakote isn't an option, you can definitely find a cerakote applicator that can cerakote it for you after the fact. You'd also have more control over the color that way. Custom E-coating would be a little trickier but may also be doable.
Post by: Pylon on Thu, 23 July 2020, 18:46:52
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Post by: WHAT!? on Thu, 23 July 2020, 21:50:31
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Fri, 24 July 2020, 10:33:19
Also your crystals and decoupling caps on your PCB look rather far from your microcontroller (general recommendation is to place those as close as you can to the microcontroller). Love the design though.
Thank you! That's a good spot with the crystal and caps, I didn't notice that. I'll sort it out
Post by: davydav on Fri, 24 July 2020, 10:50:10
https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rotational-dampers/7932917/
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Fri, 24 July 2020, 11:16:26
Do you think I could add resistance to the knob using something like this ?
https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rotational-dampers/7932917/
Not really, there isn't really the space for it. If you look at the exploded render in the original post, the knob sits on a pair of bearings with a hollow central shaft. You could probably add resistance by packing the bearings with thick grease though.
Post by: syke on Fri, 24 July 2020, 11:47:16
If it has a dial as smooth as the Sony DMP-Z1. :eek:
Post by: Pyk_ on Sun, 26 July 2020, 19:00:35
Do you think I could add resistance to the knob using something like this ?Giving it resistance would definitely be fun.
https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rotational-dampers/7932917/
Also, I’d prefer the knob in copper. Both coated and oxidized would be great. I wouldn’t even mind raw copper, I love watching it change after multiple uses.
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Mon, 27 July 2020, 03:44:21
I definitely agree, it would be great to see the copper change over time. Most people would probably choose the coated thoughDo you think I could add resistance to the knob using something like this ?Giving it resistance would definitely be fun.
https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rotational-dampers/7932917/
Also, I’d prefer the knob in copper. Both coated and oxidized would be great. I wouldn’t even mind raw copper, I love watching it change after multiple uses.
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Post by: Auracity on Mon, 27 July 2020, 14:29:39
Post by: perry4761 on Mon, 27 July 2020, 22:32:10
Post by: prizeS on Thu, 30 July 2020, 00:48:38
Love the copper. Definitely interested in a coated copper version.
is that pinky in ur profile pic
Post by: syke on Thu, 30 July 2020, 08:30:05
Post by: tonetizzley on Mon, 03 August 2020, 02:37:33
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Post by: riziom on Mon, 03 August 2020, 08:00:31
Also, I may be minority here but damn is patina'd copper amazing to look at and I love the idea of having something that changes based on your use.
Post by: youreyesonly on Mon, 03 August 2020, 09:48:09
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Mon, 03 August 2020, 10:57:45
Any chance of releasing the knob files after the GB if, for example, someone wanted to cast a knob out of silver? Asking for a friend. ;D
Also, I may be minority here but damn is patina'd copper amazing to look at and I love the idea of having something that changes based on your use.
Yes! Send me a message on discord - kwlodarczyk#1609 and let's work something out! I'd love to see a cast knob
Post by: krey on Mon, 03 August 2020, 11:13:36
Especially if it comes in shiny polished
Post by: GrimmOmen on Thu, 06 August 2020, 12:51:21
But seriously, it would be really cool to have raw copper/brass as an option.
Post by: Poesjuh on Thu, 06 August 2020, 17:34:53
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Post by: kwlodarczyk on Sun, 30 August 2020, 13:51:30
Sorry for the lack of updates lately. There have been some issues with the initial prototypes which have set us back a bit. They are currently stuck in customs on their way to me, as soon as I have them I will make a detailed post with all of the issues and how we are solving them. If all goes well that should be up in the next few days.
Be sure to check out our Discord here:
https://discord.gg/nuknf9K
Post by: zoo on Mon, 31 August 2020, 09:15:57
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Post by: Shutter_Shock on Fri, 11 September 2020, 22:57:32
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Sat, 12 September 2020, 15:46:29
I'll be honest: I was starting to lose interest. Like how much do I really need this? Honestly, I definitely don't need it at all, BUT once I saw that video of the knob spinning, I was 100% back. So pumped for this. One thing though, I am very much not into the knob with the giant grooves in it. I much prefer the subtle ridge with the gap in it used in the renders. For whatever that may be worth.
Glad you like it! I'm really happy with how well it spins.
A lot of people seem to prefer the notch knob over the crinkle. At the moment we are still planning to make both of them since there seems to be enough interest for both.
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Sun, 13 September 2020, 14:27:39
I'll be honest: I was starting to lose interest. Like how much do I really need this? Honestly, I definitely don't need it at all, BUT once I saw that video of the knob spinning, I was 100% back. So pumped for this. One thing though, I am very much not into the knob with the giant grooves in it. I much prefer the subtle ridge with the gap in it used in the renders. For whatever that may be worth.
Glad you like it! I'm really happy with how well it spins.
A lot of people seem to prefer the notch knob over the crinkle. At the moment we are still planning to make both of them since there seems to be enough interest for both.
Awesome! Thanks for the reply!
Post by: lemmebuildthings on Sun, 13 September 2020, 19:57:52
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Mon, 12 October 2020, 11:35:46
We are also working closely with the manufacturer to get a higher quality finish from the sandblasting, they will be using a higher grit of glass beads which should give us a much smoother surface finish. We're expecting it to look more like the anodising on a Iphone 6.
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735360582160613467/764477304034033684/image4.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735360582160613467/764477480890925066/image0.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735360582160613467/764477481452830731/image2.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735360582160613467/764477481653764106/image3.jpg)
Post by: pool on Mon, 12 October 2020, 15:52:21
Post by: WHAT!? on Tue, 13 October 2020, 21:49:13
Alright.
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Wed, 14 October 2020, 05:30:47
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Post by: kwlodarczyk on Sat, 17 October 2020, 11:21:03
https://imgur.com/a/FKYnYAW
Be sure to keep an eye out for a GB announcement in the near future!
Post by: badbusinessman on Fri, 06 November 2020, 12:54:28
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Fri, 06 November 2020, 16:04:29
Any updates?
At the moment we are just finalizing all of the little details, working out the exact costs of everything, etc.
I've just ordered a final PCB and once that gets here I'll be able to take final product shots for both the ROTR and the LITE.
Sorry that it's taking a while but we just want to make sure we don't have any issues when the GB starts
Post by: Jefff on Fri, 20 November 2020, 16:58:50
Post by: isot0nic on Fri, 20 November 2020, 17:40:08
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Post by: Digmo on Sun, 22 November 2020, 15:19:21
Post by: kk73715 on Thu, 03 December 2020, 11:36:38
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Thu, 03 December 2020, 12:38:45
ITS HAPPENING
Just waiting for the GB thread to be approved, I'll post the link as soon as it does.
Post by: JoltFX on Thu, 03 December 2020, 12:54:42
“𝙁𝙖𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙞𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙗𝙞𝙧𝙙 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙛𝙚𝙚𝙡𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙡𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙬𝙝𝙚𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙨𝙠𝙮 𝙞𝙨 𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙙𝙞𝙢.”
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Thu, 03 December 2020, 14:18:23
Any word yet on price?
“𝙁𝙖𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙞𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙗𝙞𝙧𝙙 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙛𝙚𝙚𝙡𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙡𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙬𝙝𝙚𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙨𝙠𝙮 𝙞𝙨 𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙙𝙞𝙢.”
Group Buy Dates:
Start Date: 11th December 2020 12:00 AM GMT
End Date: 11th January 2021 12:00 AM GMT / when spots are filled
GB limits:
ROTR - 200 units max
ROTR LITE - 500 units max
Knobs - 1400 units max
Buying limits:
ROTR - limited to 1 per person
ROTR LITE - no limits
Knobs - no limits
Pricing:
Kits
kits do not come with a magnet kit, which is required for eddy current braking
ROTR with alu knob: £168.00
ROTR with brass knob: £180.00
ROTR with copper knob: £186.00
ROTR LITE with alu knob: £108.00
ROTR LITE with brass knob: £120.00
ROTR LITE with copper knob: £126.00
Optional extras:
ROTR case only: £120.00
Knob only (alu): £48.00
Knob only (brass): £60.00
Knob only (copper): £66.00
Magnet kit (6 countersunk magnets + screws): £14.40
Color options:
Silver aluminium anodized case
Black aluminium anodized case
Silver aluminium anodized knob
Black aluminium anodized knob
Brass sandblasted knob
Copper sandblasted knob
Vendors:
Worldwide: Mechboards
Post by: JoltFX on Thu, 03 December 2020, 15:51:56
“𝙁𝙖𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙞𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙗𝙞𝙧𝙙 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙛𝙚𝙚𝙡𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙡𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙬𝙝𝙚𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙨𝙠𝙮 𝙞𝙨 𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙙𝙞𝙢.”
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Thu, 03 December 2020, 16:40:36
Website is password protected, can’t view buy options. Just like that until GB?
“𝙁𝙖𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙞𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙗𝙞𝙧𝙙 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙛𝙚𝙚𝙡𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙡𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙬𝙝𝙚𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙨𝙠𝙮 𝙞𝙨 𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙙𝙞𝙢.”
We're still finalising the website, I'll make sure it goes up as soon as possible
Post by: clackeys on Sun, 06 December 2020, 17:52:47
Post by: Ram on Mon, 07 December 2020, 00:17:35
Post by: Jefff on Tue, 08 December 2020, 12:41:47
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Tue, 08 December 2020, 12:45:20
Super interested in this! I'll definitely be making a completely circular knob with no markings. When will the files be released?
Awesome! Files will be released after the GB
Post by: rafamundez on Thu, 10 December 2020, 11:54:02
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Thu, 10 December 2020, 11:59:41
Hmm, I thought this GB was going to be around $100 USD... not $225 USD starting. YikesUnfortunately, the machined parts on their own cost us about $100 per unit. We crammed a lot of engineering into the knob
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Post by: Draic on Thu, 10 December 2020, 12:02:35
Quote
GB Start Date: 11th December 2020 12:00 AM GMT
AM/PM-Timing is confusing. Is this in the Night (00:00) or midday (12:00)?
Post by: GreatKingNorann on Thu, 10 December 2020, 12:03:37
MidnightQuoteGB Start Date: 11th December 2020 12:00 AM GMT
AM/PM-Timing is confusing. Is this in the Night (00:00) or midday (12:00)?
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Post by: cloudtastrophe on Thu, 10 December 2020, 14:23:50
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Thu, 10 December 2020, 18:06:55
ROTR - https://mechboards.co.uk/shop/group-buy/polarity-works-rotr/
ROTR LITE - https://mechboards.co.uk/shop/group-buy/polarity-works-rotr-lite-group-buy/
Extra Knobs - https://mechboards.co.uk/shop/group-buy/rotr-extra-knob-group-buy/
Post by: hottrout on Fri, 11 December 2020, 05:12:42
Post by: Diggidy on Fri, 11 December 2020, 05:52:39
It's so expensive but so nice and it will match the J-01 with copper so well.
Per talking with them in discord, they are not making insane profit off these. The knob/rotary mechanism in this is far more advanced than the simple encoders being placed in other boards/macropads, and should have incredible longevity/durability comparatively.
Post by: hottrout on Fri, 11 December 2020, 10:36:02
Post by: Eoen on Fri, 11 December 2020, 12:20:51
Post by: GMK83 on Fri, 11 December 2020, 15:26:36
Post by: nettik on Fri, 11 December 2020, 23:56:36
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Sat, 12 December 2020, 16:51:31
I also bought a silver and copper! Such a pretty combination. It sounds like you have plans for future rounds, I hope a R2 encoder will have support for the push button.
Thank you!! We have lots of ideas planned for R2, thinking of having the resistance of the knob be changed dynamically through software. Annoyingly the magnets we need don't exist yet, they should be in production mid next year though
Push button seems possible too, it will definitely be a challenge though.
Post by: Shiba1337 on Sat, 12 December 2020, 17:27:27
Post by: aeham on Thu, 24 December 2020, 00:10:26
sounds like there'll be r2 though so i'll definitely look forward to that and its new changes. hope the rest of the gb and process runs smoothly!
Post by: haylinds on Sun, 27 December 2020, 17:45:19
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Sun, 27 December 2020, 17:56:28
I didn't know a GB could run out of stock, but I'm seeing the same messaging. Are we missing something OP?There were only 200 units available. We settled on this as any more would have pushed the fulfillment date back significantly, potentially as late as early 2022.
This is also the reason for the LITE, the exact same encoder mechanism and PCB just without the aluminium case (which is the most time consuming part to machine) and a carbon fiber case instead. We're also working on a acrylic case for the LITE, we will be releasing the files for it after the GB concludes.
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Post by: haylinds on Sun, 27 December 2020, 17:59:00
I didn't know a GB could run out of stock, but I'm seeing the same messaging. Are we missing something OP?There were only 200 units available. We settled on this as any more would have pushed the fulfillment date back significantly, potentially as late as early 2022.
This is also the reason for the LITE, the exact same encoder mechanism and PCB just without the aluminium case (which is the most time consuming part to machine) and a carbon fiber case instead. We're also working on a acrylic case for the LITE, we will be releasing the files for it after the GB concludes.
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Thanks and sorry! I just found the GB limits on the landing page and you beat me to the delete. I still appreciate the backstory and am sad I missed it! Might win me over for the LITE, however.
Post by: kwlodarczyk on Sun, 27 December 2020, 18:04:21
No problem at all. We will be offering just the cases on their own in the future for anyone that wants to upgrade their LITE.I didn't know a GB could run out of stock, but I'm seeing the same messaging. Are we missing something OP?There were only 200 units available. We settled on this as any more would have pushed the fulfillment date back significantly, potentially as late as early 2022.
This is also the reason for the LITE, the exact same encoder mechanism and PCB just without the aluminium case (which is the most time consuming part to machine) and a carbon fiber case instead. We're also working on a acrylic case for the LITE, we will be releasing the files for it after the GB concludes.
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Thanks and sorry! I just found the GB limits on the landing page and you beat me to the delete. I still appreciate the backstory and am sad I missed it! Might win me over for the LITE, however.
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Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Sun, 27 December 2020, 18:13:24
Black Sandblasted Alu for the black ROTR. Polished SS for the white/silver one.
Post by: zandegran on Sat, 13 November 2021, 19:21:51
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Post by: hottrout on Mon, 15 November 2021, 02:53:48
Hate to plug our product in someone else's IC, but I think this macropad would look incredible with three Series 00 in the front.
Black Sandblasted Alu for the black ROTR. Polished SS for the white/silver one.
Now thats a good idea, I might just use that.
Post by: GMK83 on Mon, 29 November 2021, 05:41:41
Post by: General_Pretzel on Tue, 30 November 2021, 01:11:05
Whatever happened to this? Group buy was like a year ago and haven’t seen any pop up.
Production is complete, but it appears to have run into some issues in shipping, but it seems like it should be arriving to the GB runners for assembly/QC in the next couple of weeks. I imagine they'll start getting mailed out sometime in late January with holidays and whatnot
Post by: Draic on Tue, 30 November 2021, 15:14:19
Whatever happened to this? Group buy was like a year ago and haven’t seen any pop up.
Production is complete, but it appears to have run into some issues in shipping, but it seems like it should be arriving to the GB runners for assembly/QC in the next couple of weeks. I imagine they'll start getting mailed out sometime in late January with holidays and whatnot
Thanks for the update! I also was wondering about the status of the project. Looking forward to receiving mine
Post by: GMK83 on Tue, 30 November 2021, 20:49:42
Post by: General_Pretzel on Sun, 05 December 2021, 20:34:56
Thanks for the update.
Please note that I am not an official source of information and I was just sharing information from the Discord channel - that's probably the best place to get the latest updates directly from the GB runners.
Post by: Draic on Mon, 09 May 2022, 03:11:09
Post by: firstworldproblems on Mon, 09 May 2022, 05:44:43
what discord would that be? Also any update? It has been almost half a year and nothing happened still :(Updates are lacking in GH, but there are updates in their discord..
https://discord.gg/hD6DZawmNP
Lotta patience is required for this GB, but I feel that the end results will be stellar. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220509/5c462535efa9e1faf9c1de6341c5ffb6.jpg)
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