HHKB Pro 2 Love

[rowdy]

Just had this come in the mail!

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From a friend in Japan where the price difference between pro 2 and type-s is much smaller :)

As much as I love the sound of the normal topre switches (FC660C in my case), the type-s is very satisfying to type on. The whole experience feels tighter when you don't have the upstroke sounds. The biggest gain is the spacebar, which makes a hell of a noise on my FC660C, but is beautifully uniform sounding on this.

Also surprised at how good these 45g domes feel after using 55g for the last few months!

Now to learn this layout...

Nice - congratulatinos! :)

[Emospence]

Just had this come in the mail!

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From a friend in Japan where the price difference between pro 2 and type-s is much smaller :)

As much as I love the sound of the normal topre switches (FC660C in my case), the type-s is very satisfying to type on. The whole experience feels tighter when you don't have the upstroke sounds. The biggest gain is the spacebar, which makes a hell of a noise on my FC660C, but is beautifully uniform sounding on this.

Also surprised at how good these 45g domes feel after using 55g for the last few months!

Now to learn this layout...

Which do you prefer?  ;D

[kelske]

Which do you prefer? 

I don't have a definitive answer to that yet sorry, will see how I feel after a week of use

[tuxsavvy]

Am I really the only one that is odd ball? No HHKB Pro JP love?

[esoomenona]

Where did you get that cover? Same place as the rest?

[Michael]

Bird Electron JP

[esoomenona]

Yeah, it's pretty sweet. But did they make it for the Lite 2? I notice it has space where the arrows on that board might be.

[goobus]

Just posted this in the mail thread but figured I would post it here too since I can't contain how happy I am with this! HHKB Type-S!

[SpAmRaY]

Where did you get that cover? Same place as the rest?

Yeah, it's pretty sweet. But did they make it for the Lite 2? I notice it has space where the arrows on that board might be.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/ELECTRON-%E3%82%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9C%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%83%AB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%95HappyHackingKB-103%C3%97290%C3%9713mm-%E3%82%A2%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AA%E3%83%AB%E8%A3%BD-RF-HH/dp/B004CCC5EG/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1383325015&sr=1-2&keywords=%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E9%9B%BB%E5%AD%90

^^ It says lite & pro in description

looks like elite might carry it but currently OOS/coming soon

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=rf_hhek

[esoomenona]

looks like elite might carry it but currently OOS/coming soon

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=rf_hhek

"Made In USA"

Nah.

[SpAmRaY]

looks like elite might carry it but currently OOS/coming soon

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=rf_hhek

"Made In USA"

Nah.

maybe Made in U.S.A. = assembled with parts from Japan

Probably because those small black pieces have to be attached....

[127001]

Got mine today. 

I really like the thing. It's not what I expected at all.

[terran5992]

Got mine today. 

I really like the thing. It's not what I expected at all.

Congratz , you are really going to enjoy this keyboard

[VesperSAINT]

It was supposed to come in Wednesday but got delayed to today... the majority of my last paycheck from the part-time I quit went to this thing and I blame it entirely on this thread... fml.




Now to decide which one to keep... the 660C or this HHKB... Let the testing begin.

[terran5992]

Worth it

[1pq]

Now to decide which one to keep... the 660C or this HHKB... Let the testing begin.

I'm curious to hear what you think of the two. I'm going to buy either the FC660C or the HHKB, but I'm not sure I want to spend the extra cash for the hhkb. When you've fully tested, I'd love to know what you think of the hhkb layout.

[VesperSAINT]

Worth it

Now to decide which one to keep... the 660C or this HHKB... Let the testing begin.

I'm curious to hear what you think of the two. I'm going to buy either the FC660C or the HHKB, but I'm not sure I want to spend the extra cash for the hhkb. When you've fully tested, I'd love to know what you think of the hhkb layout.

I'll agree that it's worth it because the HHKB is a glorious keyboard, but is it worth more than a 660C? I think not, at least not yet. We'll see

For now, my rough thoughts:

- HHKB has a more raw feel because of the plastic case mounting which is nice and fun, but I prefer the softer feedback which the 660C provides because of the steel plate. 

+1 point 660C for dem feelz

- The famous and worthy thock on the HHKB is awesome, as expected, but I also still love the springier and poppier (not real word but you get what I mean) sounding thock on my 660C just as much. People who have tried both or have a 660C probably should know what I mean when I say springier and poppier.

Tie here. They both sound awesome in their own ways.

The looks I'll have to give to the HHKB because of the more uniform look and prettier blank keycaps. The 660C is just as pretty but those Leopold stock caps....

+1 point to HHKB for dem lookz.


So for now, they're on equal standing... this is too difficult

[rowdy]

Congratulations localhost and Vesper - welcome to the club!

HHKB is a bit unexpected, but it grows on you quickly.  Mine did

[dustinhxc]

Here's my unmodified one.

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Love this with the blanks!!

[kelske]

It was supposed to come in Wednesday but got delayed to today... the majority of my last paycheck from the part-time I quit went to this thing and I blame it entirely on this thread... fml.

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Now to decide which one to keep... the 660C or this HHKB... Let the testing begin.

Didn't take you long to flip that spacebar bro...

[Belfong]

One more week for my HHKB to arrive. My sister is in Japan and I shipped to her via amazon.co.jp which seemed to be the cheaper and most convenient way to get a HHKB compare to retail store.

Can't wait!

[ComradeSniper]

It was supposed to come in Wednesday but got delayed to today... the majority of my last paycheck from the part-time I quit went to this thing and I blame it entirely on this thread... fml.

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Now to decide which one to keep... the 660C or this HHKB... Let the testing begin.

Excellent color choice, blank white has always been my favorite.  :D

At first I also thought the FC660C felt nicer, but after a while I began to prefer the HHKB. The FC660C almost feels lighter and less tactile to me.

[tuxsavvy]

Where did you get that cover? Same place as the rest?

Bird Electron JP

looks like elite might carry it but currently OOS/coming soon

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=rf_hhek

"Made In USA"

Nah.

Yeah, it's pretty sweet. But did they make it for the Lite 2? I notice it has space where the arrows on that board might be.

Where did you get that cover? Same place as the rest?

Yeah, it's pretty sweet. But did they make it for the Lite 2? I notice it has space where the arrows on that board might be.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/ELECTRON-%E3%82%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9C%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%83%AB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%95HappyHackingKB-103%C3%97290%C3%9713mm-%E3%82%A2%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AA%E3%83%AB%E8%A3%BD-RF-HH/dp/B004CCC5EG/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1383325015&sr=1-2&keywords=%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E9%9B%BB%E5%AD%90

^^ It says lite & pro in description

looks like elite might carry it but currently OOS/coming soon

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=rf_hhek

looks like elite might carry it but currently OOS/coming soon

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=rf_hhek

"Made In USA"

Nah.

maybe Made in U.S.A. = assembled with parts from Japan

Probably because those small black pieces have to be attached....

I apologise for the delay in response. Yes both Bro Caps and SpAmRaY were spot on there. They are made by Bird Electron JP.  Here is their site (warning: Japanese only): http://shop.bird-electron.co.jp/shopbrand/008/P/

They (Bird Electron) also makes a whole bunch of other accessories, even for HHKB and fair few others. Also Bird Electron gets a mentioning on PFU Limited's site (warning: Japanese only): http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/option.html

Even more accessories for both HHKB and others from PFU Limited website. Again all Japanese only:

• http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/20_campaign/item1/item1_1.html
• http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/20_campaign/item3/item3_1.html
• http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/20_campaign/item5/item5_1.html
• http://www.vshopu.com/catepr.cgi?cate=KBET (as referred from here)

(Note: There are plenty of accessories for other things but I try to link the ones that I found containing items for HHKB).

For the U.S. version found on elitekeyboards.com I guess they are waiting for the interest/pre-orders to mount up before they manufacture them to for the potential owners. Inevitably there's no photos for them so I don't think there any information as to what they look like.

The little gap on bottom right I believe was deliberately made. Not sure of the exact reasoning behind it, possibly with those owners of lite2 the (smaller) arrow keys are probably overhanging compared to any of the regular key caps on the HHKB series. Maybe it would probably look ugly if they have to make the bottom right sort of stick out on an angle just to cover the arrow keys for the lite2 and would probably look ugly if the subsequent owner does not have the lite2 variant.

As for buying the keyboard roof and other accessories (some). They can be ordered from PFU direct (which is basically PFU's online shop for ordering stuff directly from PFU manufacturer I guess) also Japanese only:

• http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/direct/hhkb/ (HHKB keyboard range)
• http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/direct/hhkb/option.html (HHKB accessories range)
• http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/direct/hhkb/goods.html (HHKB branded T-shirts)

As I was writing this post I noticed they had HHKB branded T-shirts for sale from PFU. I never actually realised that! oh well maybe I'll wait (and hope) that they will have varied versions for HHKB Pro JP and/or HHKB Pro Type-S, etc. Then again it would probably never happen anyway. 

Though specifically, when I ordered my HHKB with accessories, I did not actually order them from PFU direct myself, but rather through a private Japanese proxy. I actually never knew that PFU direct would stock those non-PFU related accessories on their own site until not long ago (as of writing). Of course, one doesn't really need to order them through PFU direct if they choose not to. amazon.co.jp and rakuten.co.jp both stock keyboard and keyboard accessories (of sorts).
I would have presume that my private Japanese proxy would have ordered all my HHKB accessories through PFU direct because not only PFU has them available but it would be a heck a lot easier to just order them from one site and let PFU in this case deal with the accessories and what not.

Here are some more photos of HHKB with keyboard roof. Iniitally I thought one of the photos was the elitekeyboards.com variant of the keyboard roof but on closer inspection, that was not the case in other words it was the Bird Electron variant. These photos are obviously not mine. I only have HHKB Pro Type-S JP (white):







Source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/elektrizer/galleries/72157623693270050/ and http://www.flickriver.com/photos/tags/hhkb/

Just posted this in the mail thread but figured I would post it here too since I can't contain how happy I am with this! HHKB Type-S!

Very nice photo! Now you can compare the photos of your HHKB Pro Type-S box against mine (HHKB Pro JP Type-S). 

[esoomenona]

The covers on EK aren't the same. They used to be sold, sold out, never restocked.

[tuxsavvy]

The covers on EK aren't the same. They used to be sold, sold out, never restocked.

o.O It would be nice if there were photos of it. I never seen the elitekeyboards.com variant of HHKB keyboard roof.

[morpheus]

Worth it

Now to decide which one to keep... the 660C or this HHKB... Let the testing begin.

I'm curious to hear what you think of the two. I'm going to buy either the FC660C or the HHKB, but I'm not sure I want to spend the extra cash for the hhkb. When you've fully tested, I'd love to know what you think of the hhkb layout.

I'll agree that it's worth it because the HHKB is a glorious keyboard, but is it worth more than a 660C? I think not, at least not yet. We'll see

For now, my rough thoughts:

- HHKB has a more raw feel because of the plastic case mounting which is nice and fun, but I prefer the softer feedback which the 660C provides because of the steel plate. 

+1 point 660C for dem feelz

- The famous and worthy thock on the HHKB is awesome, as expected, but I also still love the springier and poppier (not real word but you get what I mean) sounding thock on my 660C just as much. People who have tried both or have a 660C probably should know what I mean when I say springier and poppier.

Tie here. They both sound awesome in their own ways.

The looks I'll have to give to the HHKB because of the more uniform look and prettier blank keycaps. The 660C is just as pretty but those Leopold stock caps....

+1 point to HHKB for dem lookz.


So for now, they're on equal standing... this is too difficult

I would keep the FC660C. I know exactly what you're talking about the feedback on the FC660C. It's actually more pleasing than the HHKB IMHO. I have both and I'm thinking about trading my HHKB for a Realforce.

[Moosecraft]

Got my HHKB 2 days ago, I really like topre . Haven't really learned the layout yet but that will come.

[VesperSAINT]

Congratulations localhost and Vesper - welcome to the club!

HHKB is a bit unexpected, but it grows on you quickly.  Mine did

Thanks!!! It sure does feel great to be part of this exclusive club! It took me 2 years to get there but the wait was worth it. It really does live up to the expectations I remember seeing one nearly 2 years ago and going crazy about it... until I saw the price... I told myself, "That's waaaay too expensive for a freaking keyboard, and I'd have to be retarded to spend that much money on one keyboard"......... I currently own 4 pieces of Topre hardware... each very expensive )

I've already gotten used to the layout (took a good day and a half to get a good grasp of it). I can see ergonomics of it, but I still prefer my standard layout... but the looks and sound won't let me go...

Didn't take you long to flip that spacebar bro...

Lol! Yeah, bro... I love me my flipped spacebar... the regular position literally has the bottom edge of the spacebar cutting into the middle of my thumb, and my thumb is only making contact with the edge when I press down; it's not very pleasant.

Excellent color choice, blank white has always been my favorite. 

At first I also thought the FC660C felt nicer, but after a while I began to prefer the HHKB. The FC660C almost feels lighter and less tactile to me.

I agree with you that the blank white and grey keys are adorable on the HHKB! I would also love the white/grey keys on a black case too!

I do love the distinct feel of the HHKB, and find it to be very fun and and the case mount feels plastic-y (which may sound like a bad thing but it's actually a very good thing, and I love it!!!). However, I still do love the springy/pop-ier feel on the 660C as much, if not more than the HHKB. I actually think the 660C is actually more tactile because of that, but I think the whole thing may be subjective thing.

I would keep the FC660C. I know exactly what you're talking about the feedback on the FC660C. It's actually more pleasing than the HHKB IMHO. I have both and I'm thinking about trading my HHKB for a Realforce.

Yeah, dood. You know exactly what I mean. The 660C is just more springy, poppy, and soft. I wouldn't necessarily say it's better than the feel of the HHKB, but more just preference, and so far, I think the 660C just feels more satisfying to type on, purely based on switch feel. The plate does an amazing job softening up the bottoming out feel, and provides awesome feedback.

[Michael]

Digging up some older photos...

[terran5992]

Digging up some older photos...

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Looks amazing aside from the right shift

[Michael]

Digging up some older photos...

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Looks amazing aside from the right shift

Blame Thorpe corporation for not giving the HHKB love in their keycap sets T_T


It bothered me too much not having the proper profile with the cap that actually filled the space. So I went with that

[VesperSAINT]

Digging up some older photos...

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so bootiful... dat chartreuse skull... :'(

[rowdy]

Digging up some older photos...

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That green goes so well with the black!

[tuxsavvy]

Digging up some older photos...

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That colour scheme (apart from the skull caps) sort of reminds me of the Monster energy drinks they have for sale where I live: http://www.energyfiend.com/wp-content/caffeine/monster.jpg

Sorry but I can't help to think it as such.  :))

[rowdy]

Digging up some older photos...

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That colour scheme (apart from the skull caps) sort of reminds me of the Monster energy drinks they have for sale where I live: http://www.energyfiend.com/wp-content/caffeine/monster.jpg

Sorry but I can't help to think it as such.  :))

Or V?

http://www.v.co.nz/#products

[tuxsavvy]

Digging up some older photos...

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That colour scheme (apart from the skull caps) sort of reminds me of the Monster energy drinks they have for sale where I live: http://www.energyfiend.com/wp-content/caffeine/monster.jpg

Sorry but I can't help to think it as such.  :))

Or V?

http://www.v.co.nz/#products

Nah, original V cans had more green colour as background compared to Monster having black background. I would say it would look like original V should the colours of that keyboard and the case be opposite (that is green case with black keys) lol.  ;D

[kelske]

How about this...?

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[rowdy]

Digging up some older photos...

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That colour scheme (apart from the skull caps) sort of reminds me of the Monster energy drinks they have for sale where I live: http://www.energyfiend.com/wp-content/caffeine/monster.jpg

Sorry but I can't help to think it as such.  :))

Or V?

http://www.v.co.nz/#products

Nah, original V cans had more green colour as background compared to Monster having black background. I would say it would look like original V should the colours of that keyboard and the case be opposite (that is green case with black keys) lol.  ;D

V black?

http://v-energy.com.au/products/v-black/

[tuxsavvy]

How about this...?

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:))

Digging up some older photos...

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That colour scheme (apart from the skull caps) sort of reminds me of the Monster energy drinks they have for sale where I live: http://www.energyfiend.com/wp-content/caffeine/monster.jpg

Sorry but I can't help to think it as such.  ) 

Or V?

http://www.v.co.nz/#products

Nah, original V cans had more green colour as background compared to Monster having black background. I would say it would look like original V should the colours of that keyboard and the case be opposite (that is green case with black keys) lol. 

V black?

http://v-energy.com.au/products/v-black/

A razer branded stuff..

Then the V black, which came a lot later after that Monster energy drink. Anyway I'm not going to change my mind with what my first impressions of, whatever the black case with green key caps would signify to you or anyone else is totally depends on your own experiences. I respect all the inputs of what it would remind people of but I'm sticking firm with whatever I said initially.

[esoomenona]

Digging up some older photos...

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Looks amazing aside from the right shift

Blame Thorpe corporation for not giving the HHKB love in their keycap sets T_T


It bothered me too much not having the proper profile with the cap that actually filled the space. So I went with that

I do agree its better than putting the caps lock there.

[dustinhxc]

Digging up some older photos...

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hmmmmmm so yeah I want a HHKB Pro now wow  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[unicomp_uc]

After this post I'm done spamming geekhack with my favorite photos from today's impromptu photo shoot after I flipped the spacebar (third thread  ). I know it's overkill, but I am technically showing my 'HHKB Pro 2 Love'!

[Moosecraft]

Really liking my HHKB for the past 5 days I've been using it. So glad i tried topre before I started to really spend money on expensive MX stuffs

[theMANtonio]

After this post I'm done spamming geekhack with my favorite photos from today's impromptu photo shoot after I flipped the spacebar (third thread  ). I know it's overkill, but I am technically showing my 'HHKB Pro 2 Love'!

Beautiful. I need some blank white keys for my black HHKB!

Does turning the spacebar like that make much of a difference? I guess I don't have the problem of the spacebar affecting my thumb much,

[TimIsABat]

After this post I'm done spamming geekhack with my favorite photos from today's impromptu photo shoot after I flipped the spacebar (third thread  ). I know it's overkill, but I am technically showing my 'HHKB Pro 2 Love'!

So beautiful. I am pretty much looking to do the same thing with my board.

[unicomp_uc]

After this post I'm done spamming geekhack with my favorite photos from today's impromptu photo shoot after I flipped the spacebar (third thread  ). I know it's overkill, but I am technically showing my 'HHKB Pro 2 Love'!

Beautiful. I need some blank white keys for my black HHKB!

Does turning the spacebar like that make much of a difference? I guess I don't have the problem of the spacebar affecting my thumb much,

Didn't affect mine either, really. I tried it because I heard a lot of people talking about it and I'm really glad that I did. Besides the fact I think it looks cooler and more unique (personal opinion), it actually feels so much better and strangely, more natural.

Thanks for the kind words on my board!

[terran5992]

After this post I'm done spamming geekhack with my favorite photos from today's impromptu photo shoot after I flipped the spacebar (third thread  ). I know it's overkill, but I am technically showing my 'HHKB Pro 2 Love'!

Beautiful. I need some blank white keys for my black HHKB!

Does turning the spacebar like that make much of a difference? I guess I don't have the problem of the spacebar affecting my thumb much,

Didn't affect mine either, really. I tried it because I heard a lot of people talking about it and I'm really glad that I did. Besides the fact I think it looks cooler and more unique (personal opinion), it actually feels so much better and strangely, more natural.

Thanks for the kind words on my board!

There was a thread about the flipped spacebar not too long ago.
All thanks to CPTbadass

[Belfong]

So I am typing this in my new HHKB Pro 2 black and I can't say for sure it is love yet but I do have a couple of questions but I am not sure if I want to rescan 7 pages of this thread or other threads so....
1. for arrow keys, I have to press the FN key down. What are your usual mode of doing this? I find that using my right hand pinky to press the Fn down and the the rest of the fingers on the diamond shape keys are awkward and tiring. Is there a better way?

2. I need to get used to Command-Tilde on the right hand to switch between open window in the Mac; normally I use the left hand instead because they tilde is on the left. This is a bizarre layout. Any tips?

[rowdy]

So I am typing this in my new HHKB Pro 2 black and I can't say for sure it is love yet but I do have a couple of questions but I am not sure if I want to rescan 7 pages of this thread or other threads so....
1. for arrow keys, I have to press the FN key down. What are your usual mode of doing this? I find that using my right hand pinky to press the Fn down and the the rest of the fingers on the diamond shape keys are awkward and tiring. Is there a better way?

2. I need to get used to Command-Tilde on the right hand to switch between open window in the Mac; normally I use the left hand instead because they tilde is on the left. This is a bizarre layout. Any tips?

Due to my somewhat chaotic typing method, I might not be the best to respond to this, but ...

1. I usually do Fn with my right thumb, then press the arrow keys with my right index or middle finger.

2. Right thumb on right command, and right index finger on ~` (which happens to have my 3D CC on it atm).

[VesperSAINT]

2. Right thumb on right command, and right index finger on ~` (which happens to have my 3D CC on it atm).

TYPING ON A CC

JK... kinda )