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Title: [IC]NIZ Duo82 update more design 3rd March updated
Post by: Nizkeyboard on Sun, 21 February 2021, 19:58:01: Hello everyone,

With production underway for our last project, the NiZ Atom 68 II, we are now ready to begin the Interest Check phase for our new project: the NiZ Duo82. The NiZ Duo82 is a custom aluminum case for the NiZ Micro82 electrostatic-capacitive keyboard, with a design inspired by the Anologue Duo video game console (https://www.analogue.co/duo).

We built the first prototype months ago and have produced more than 20 samples since then, improving the design based on the feedback we have received on the early renders and prototypes from our communities on Discord and zFrontier. Most notably, the design of the decorative waves on the back of the case has been altered to optimize the size and shape, at the suggestion of our users. The rendering below shows the improved design, and we expect to have a new prototype using this design produced in 2-3 weeks.

Basic Information

Typing Angle: 6°

Case options:
Aluminum:Coating( Black, Gray, Silver, Yellow, White, Blue，Pink)
Polycarbonate: Frosted White with anti-scratch coating
Weight options: Coating( Black, Gray, Silver, Yellow, White, Blue，Pink)
Brass: Transparent electrophoresis coating
Plate options:
Alu：Coating( Black, Gray, Silver, Yellow, White, Blue，Pink)
Brass：Transparent electrophoresis,coating( Black, Gray, Silver, Yellow, White, Blue，Pink)
FR4：Black with gold trim, White with platinum trim
*Plates are 1.5mm thick
Stabilizer options:
    Costar stabilizers
    Cherry-style plate-mount stabilizers
   *Each plate will be cut to support only one style of stabilizers
Plate mounting system:
Top mount
PCB:
NIZ electrostatic-capacitive PCB with USB Type-C daughterboard
Programmability:
Fully programmable using NiZ software
Battery:
2500mah - 5000mah
Keycaps:
Compatible with all profiles of Cherry MX-style keycaps
Domes:
35g/45g/50g/60g/65g
Layout:
   75% layout
1.75u Right Shift
1u Right Ctrl, Fn, and Alt
6.25u Spacebar
Price:
    TBD
Pictures:
(https://i.imgur.com/O7dbxLo.jpg)
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Add more pic
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(https://i.imgur.com/1HjRQZD.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/nUmk9do.jpg)

FAQ:
Q:What quality can be achieved in the finished?
A:Allows some blemishes that are usually not seen when the keyboard is assembled or built. This can be anode or tooling marks. Small color differences between different same-color parts can be seen as well.
Q: Can you change the layout?
A:No
Q:How will the keyboards be programmed?
A: Will be programmable by NIZ firmwire, and the latest firmwire will regularly update by discord.
https://discord.gg/fKdrR8Manj (https://discord.gg/fKdrR8Manj)
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82
Post by: firewrath9 on Sun, 21 February 2021, 19:59:59: ooh i like!
cool to see some custom electrocapacitive boards!

GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82
Post by: mydens on Sun, 21 February 2021, 20:09:12: how about a 1800 layout
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82
Post by: IMZO on Sun, 21 February 2021, 20:50:04: Ok , i like it
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82
Post by: tehfrawg on Sun, 21 February 2021, 21:06:45: Quote from: mydens on Sun, 21 February 2021, 20:09:12
how about a 1800 layout

Have you seen this (https://www.instagram.com/p/CJf_xQZnpsC/) yet?
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82
Post by: online on Sun, 21 February 2021, 23:29:29: Love to have a 82 ec board. not so sure about the bump on the forehead tho...
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82
Post by: ycanales on Mon, 22 February 2021, 06:29:49: Sweet
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82
Post by: powwu on Mon, 22 February 2021, 07:27:29: Definitely interesting. EC is nice, glad there's more stuff coming out for it.

The layout reminds me of the Toad (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95130.0), which I have been a fan of for a while.

I'm not a big fan of the forehead extrusion. It's like you birthed a baby, and then purposefully gave it a defect so it would be different.
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82
Post by: Livid on Mon, 22 February 2021, 12:56:09: Quote from: powwu on Mon, 22 February 2021, 07:27:29
I'm not a big fan of the forehead extrusion. It's like you birthed a baby, and then purposefully gave it a defect so it would be different.

But at least it looks different, much better than looking the same as everything else out there imo. And I actually like it, I can definitely see the inspiration
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82
Post by: online on Mon, 22 February 2021, 14:10:50: Quote from: Livid on Mon, 22 February 2021, 12:56:09
Quote from: powwu on Mon, 22 February 2021, 07:27:29
I'm not a big fan of the forehead extrusion. It's like you birthed a baby, and then purposefully gave it a defect so it would be different.

But at least it looks different, much better than looking the same as everything else out there imo. And I actually like it, I can definitely see the inspiration

I'm not sure about the forehead too, it reminds me of HHKB Bluetooth hump. Look from the top view is okay, but the grill and USB cutout seems to be overdesigned. (I'm also curious about the machinability of the grill.)

The design stands out from other boards for sure, but I don't think it works well here tho. Too much going on and yet they don't serve any purpose to set a theme or provide utility.

I also think brass strip and weight are becoming cliche in custom keyboards. I guess that's just my personal taste.

IMO, 75 EC board with Bluetooth in a simple custom case alone is different enough to stand out from the crowd.

I'm not trying to hate on this. I've been watching this on Discord and drooling for a custom 75 EC board for a long time.

I hope there will be an option with no grill. I'll definitely in for 75 EC board in PC case, but not with the grill.
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82
Post by: LeoneShamoth on Mon, 22 February 2021, 15:01:27: (https://i.imgur.com/5InIOLX.png)

All jokes aside I think the board looks great and I am definitely interested. I hope the bluetooth is done well and will wait to see how prototypes go.
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82
Post by: Tree_ on Mon, 22 February 2021, 15:56:15: Not a fan of the "forehead" but I do like the wave design piece.

What's the purpose of the acrylic window on the bottom of the case?
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82
Post by: HelloThisIsDog on Mon, 22 February 2021, 16:14:37: The forehead is over designed and gaudy and I want it. It looks over the top in an industry aesthetic where most boards look the same except for one tiny gimmick. I for one find it attractive and refreshing.
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82
Post by: Nizkeyboard on Mon, 22 February 2021, 20:56:36: Quote from: HelloThisIsDog on Mon, 22 February 2021, 16:14:37
The forehead is over designed and gaudy and I want it. It looks over the top in an industry aesthetic where most boards look the same except for one tiny gimmick. I for one find it attractive and refreshing.
For Bluetooth signal
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82
Post by: Nizkeyboard on Mon, 22 February 2021, 20:57:52: Quote from: Nizkeyboard on Mon, 22 February 2021, 20:56:36
Quote from: HelloThisIsDog on Mon, 22 February 2021, 16:14:37
The forehead is over designed and gaudy and I want it. It looks over the top in an industry aesthetic where most boards look the same except for one tiny gimmick. I for one find it attractive and refreshing.
thanks you
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82
Post by: Nizkeyboard on Mon, 22 February 2021, 22:22:34: Could you take a quick poll when you have time?https://forms.gle/DUJHqcwsJMzx2CKn6 (https://forms.gle/DUJHqcwsJMzx2CKn6)
(https://i.imgur.com/Z2ANGbk.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82
Post by: Suavity on Mon, 22 February 2021, 23:01:09: Any considerations for a southpaw 1800 layout?
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82
Post by: Nizkeyboard on Mon, 22 February 2021, 23:21:28: Quote from: Suavity on Mon, 22 February 2021, 23:01:09
Any considerations for a southpaw 1800 layout?
sorry,not yet
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82
Post by: CodeMayhem on Tue, 23 February 2021, 09:59:30: The one brass accent that has visible screws is the one that is one top, no way to modify the way those two accents are mounted so that they're on the under side?

also is that a 3/4ths spacing between the esc and f-row and then 1/3rd spacings from there?
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82
Post by: made in China on Tue, 23 February 2021, 20:24:45: Quote from: CodeMayhem on Tue, 23 February 2021, 09:59:30
The one brass accent that has visible screws is the one that is one top, no way to modify the way those two accents are mounted so that they're on the under side?

also is that a 3/4ths spacing between the esc and f-row and then 1/3rd spacings from there?
As for the appearance, we are collecting opinions. If it is convenient, you can join our Discord and discuss together
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82
Post by: Nizkeyboard on Wed, 03 March 2021, 04:37:30: add more renders
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82 update more design 3rd March updated
Post by: Oni74 on Sat, 17 April 2021, 01:53:30: Thanks for bringing a premium 75% EC board to IC. Very much interested, without the funny protrusion up top.

I do have a specific request:

Can you PLEASE make it easier to swap domes on your board? I have a Micro 82 and the lack of dome guides makes it all but impossible to eliminate spring noise due to misaligned domes. I understand you are making different dome sheets of varying weights available, but many of us want to use BKE/DES domes.
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82 update more design 3rd March updated
Post by: samuryan on Tue, 20 April 2021, 19:10:29: I really enjoy the look of this case.
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82 update more design 3rd March updated
Post by: switchnollie on Mon, 03 May 2021, 17:15:43: Just found out about this yesterday, are they already sold out or just not available yet?
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82 update more design 3rd March updated
Post by: strongly-typed on Tue, 04 May 2021, 19:20:08: It's not available yet.
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82 update more design 3rd March updated
Post by: u1ti on Sun, 09 May 2021, 14:17:46: I love that pink/green version! Would go perfect with epbt Aesthetic.
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82
Post by: gloomycloud on Tue, 11 May 2021, 07:53:36: Quote from: Nizkeyboard on Mon, 22 February 2021, 22:22:34
Could you take a quick poll when you have time?https://forms.gle/DUJHqcwsJMzx2CKn6 (https://forms.gle/DUJHqcwsJMzx2CKn6)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Z2ANGbk.jpg)

Excited about this, how about smaller blocker? like 0.5u
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82 update more design 3rd March updated
Post by: i luv chuletas on Tue, 11 May 2021, 08:48:22: Holy hell, I was not ready for that teal and orange combo in WKL... :eek:

Congrats guys, the design will be polarizing but damn it's beautiful.

Reading through the description it seems that this IC is for the case and the PCB, is this correct?
Also, is this planned to be an unlimited gb?

Either way, please keep the WKL as an option, looks much better than without the blocker IMO.

Thank you, this for sure will be my first EC board, very exciting!
Title: Re: [IC]NIZ Duo82 update more design 3rd March updated
Post by: Necrolegion on Thu, 13 May 2021, 03:22:46: Please go through with this. Keyboard is beautiful! I love all the complicated pieces. That teal and orange will go perfect with GMK Retrocast, GMK Kaiju, or GMK Baltic!