“The sea is everything. It covers seven-tenths of the terrestrial globe. Its breath is pure and life-giving. It is an immense desert place where man is never lonely, for he senses the weaving of Creation on every hand. It is the physical embodiment of a supernatural existence For the sea is itself nothing but love and emotion.”
Is this a Group Buy?
Does [insert a kit] include [insert a keycap]?
Where are the homing keycaps?
I have an ISO board, which child deals would cover my board?
Does the explorer kit include a 6U and a 7u space bar?
How do I cover [insert a keyboard layout]?
Are the Corsair Strafe and Logitech G710 covered?
Are kits final
Which are the color chips of this set?
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Is a Blank Yellow Modifier Kit possible?
Looks good, I'd get it providing you don't throw a group buy at us for this year, so maybe March to avoid Plum?
Very nice set :eek:, This is the first GMK that I want to have on my board right now, Hoping the finished product looks accurate to the rendersShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/jzc9UkS.gif)
Adding more kits is not on my plan, since GMK's MoQ is pretty high.
Might be interested. I'm not sure I need more keysets though.
That sounds sooooo familiarMight be interested. I'm not sure I need more keysets though.
My wife is positive I don't need more keysets. More keep showing up, though.
I love the alphas. I'm not a huge fan of the mods, but I would probably be in just for the alphas.
I suggest you to move the ISO keys to the Explorer set; that, will encourage people the only need an ANSI standard set to get the base set, kat the lowest possible price.
yellow arrow and yellow spacebars addon please :3
- Finally, I will explore the possibility of making a novelty keycap for this set.
- Finally, I will explore the possibility of making a novelty keycap for this set.
2.75u! please! :D
I suggest you to move the ISO keys to the Explorer set; that, will encourage people the only need an ANSI standard set to get the base set, kat the lowest possible price.
I don't think it would be fair to move the ISO keys out of the main kit since ISO is a standard and the explorer kit's objetive is to offer compatibility with non-standard layouts.
How about adding nordeuk keys to the non-standard kit akin to light cycle? ;)
Ok, small update about Nautilus:
First of all, please keep in mind that this is a GMK set and the MOQ is high, so it is unviable to add kits like, for instance AZERTY or making a OS X kit…
Here are some changes that I'll be performing to the keyset:
- The base kit will cover UK ISO as well as yellow arrows.
- I will add a second pair of R4 1U Control and Alt to the explorer kit
- Finally, I will explore the possibility of making a novelty keycap for this set.
Thanks for the support :thumb:
Might be interested. I'm not sure I need more keysets though.I don't need more keysets. Doubt i can resist this, though.
1.25 Cmd please, be the first, make history :)
- Despite being a MacOS user myself, Nautilus doesn't have a CMD keycap for the same reason it doesn't have a Windows 10 (or any previous Windows) icon. Code serves as substitute of the OS keycap for everyone (OS X, Linux, and Windows).
- As for the Alt Gr, it could be possible to change one of the 1.25U and one of the 1.5U Alt modifiers for Alt Gr.
- Speaking of the R2 1.5U Delete. I'd like to keep it that way, since it is closer to the HHKB layout.
- Finally, and as I said in an earlier post. A second pair of Ctrl and Alt will be added to the Explorer kit.
Expect minor changes.
- Despite being a MacOS user myself, Nautilus doesn't have a CMD keycap for the same reason it doesn't have a Windows 10 (or any previous Windows) icon. Code serves as substitute of the OS keycap for everyone (OS X, Linux, and Windows).
- As for the Alt Gr, it could be possible to change one of the 1.25U and one of the 1.5U Alt modifiers for Alt Gr.
- Speaking of the R2 1.5U Delete. I'd like to keep it that way, since it is closer to the HHKB layout.
- Finally, and as I said in an earlier post. A second pair of Ctrl and Alt will be added to the Explorer kit.
Expect minor changes.
I've designed myself a keyset before, and have been actively following all of the group buys for the last couple years. I cannot justify the addition of a Nordic/German support as they knowing that it won't reach MoQ with GMK as those kits barely hit the 50 units in SA or doubleshot DSA.
alright then just do blank modifiers... 1.25/1.5/1.75/2/2.25/2.5/2.75... I'll take 2 or 3 of those and I'd be super happy... and a ton of other people as well ;)
I've designed myself a keyset before, and have been actively following all of the group buys for the last couple years. I cannot justify the addition of a Nordic/German support as they knowing that it won't reach MoQ with GMK as those kits barely hit the 50 units in SA or doubleshot DSA.Ok. Then please consider polling for uk vs norde for the main kit. There have been many uk gmk buys during this year, but no nordic ones. To balance the difference in the base kits price, you could move the norde keys to the adapter kit along with the iso enter. Also the international kit reached 133 sold in the recent Lightcycle GB.
+1 for the yellow spacebars. I think it'll make the set pop out more.
+1 for the yellow spacebars. I think it'll make the set pop out more.
I have nothing against extra keycaps, but, the set has a Mysterious vibe, that comes from the Darkness, a yellow spacebar could make GMK Nautilus the GMK Yellow Submarine, not my cup of tea, but definitely very interesting :)
I've designed myself a keyset before, and have been actively following all of the group buys for the last couple years. I cannot justify the addition of a Nordic/German support as they knowing that it won't reach MoQ with GMK as those kits barely hit the 50 units in SA or doubleshot DSA.Ok. Then please consider polling for uk vs norde for the main kit. There have been many uk gmk buys during this year, but no nordic ones. To balance the difference in the base kits price, you could move the norde keys to the adapter kit along with the iso enter. Also the international kit reached 133 sold in the recent Lightcycle GB.
As I said in my post, no separate kit please. Just include them in the base set or the addon set you already have in place, otherwise they wont tip anyway and there is no point. As it seems that you are willing to consider only one ISO language kit (UK), I would just like that you consider also other options. The market for GMK UK is already being filled with other sets, while the demand for other languages is definitely there.I've designed myself a keyset before, and have been actively following all of the group buys for the last couple years. I cannot justify the addition of a Nordic/German support as they knowing that it won't reach MoQ with GMK as those kits barely hit the 50 units in SA or doubleshot DSA.Ok. Then please consider polling for uk vs norde for the main kit. There have been many uk gmk buys during this year, but no nordic ones. To balance the difference in the base kits price, you could move the norde keys to the adapter kit along with the iso enter. Also the international kit reached 133 sold in the recent Lightcycle GB.
I would suggest putting the nordic and UK ISO together. The UK set only needs a few extra keys and I think this would help sales.
As I said in my post, no separate kit please. Just include them in the base set or the addon set you already have in place, otherwise they wont tip anyway and there is no point. As it seems that you are willing to consider only one ISO language kit (UK), I would just like that you consider also other options. The market for GMK UK is already being filled with other sets, while the demand for other languages is definitely there.I've designed myself a keyset before, and have been actively following all of the group buys for the last couple years. I cannot justify the addition of a Nordic/German support as they knowing that it won't reach MoQ with GMK as those kits barely hit the 50 units in SA or doubleshot DSA.Ok. Then please consider polling for uk vs norde for the main kit. There have been many uk gmk buys during this year, but no nordic ones. To balance the difference in the base kits price, you could move the norde keys to the adapter kit along with the iso enter. Also the international kit reached 133 sold in the recent Lightcycle GB.
I would suggest putting the nordic and UK ISO together. The UK set only needs a few extra keys and I think this would help sales.
Also the international kit reached 133 sold in the recent Lightcycle GB.
You are correct in all of the points you make, though by the same reasoning I don't see the point of adding any ISO support in the first place. Seeing how Zambumon is already adding ISO UK in the base set, against your logic, I only asked him to entertain the thought of switching to some other language as UK has been done to death already.Also the international kit reached 133 sold in the recent Lightcycle GB.
That is incorrect, the "international kit" you speak of is actually a compatibility kit that includes Tsangan spacebars, 1.5 mods and a myriad of other adapter keys that are used in many non-standard layouts that have absolutely nothing to do with international boards. Let's say half those 133 kits were purchased with the intent of being used on UK/NORDE boards, which I know is already being generous - that's 67 rounded up, how many orders do you expect Nautilus or any other good GMK set to potentially pull if it releases on Massdrop some time next year? Let's speculate 1500 which I believe is very realistic, if a theoretical international kit were to sell 67 kits that'd be 4.5% of all orders placed.
Godspeed is the easiest comparison to draw right now but there are other older examples that tell the same tale (Jukebox, the original Hyperfuse, GMK carbon, etc.) - out of 3700 orders placed UK plus Norde (2 diff kits) sold like 80 kits. Blank ergodox sold more than both of them individually (bare in mind there was also a regular Ergodox kit) and UK was literally the one that sold the least out of every single kit. Together they accomplished exactly 2.3% of the buy. Why would you push people to buy like 30 keys to include ISO/Norde in a base set if it caters to such a minuscule audience, that's completely irrational both from a resource as well as monetary point of view. Including it in the addons would literally double the amount of keys which again is far from sustainable in my opinion especially with GMK.
As you said yourself, if they're sold separately they won't tip so why do you wanna shove them onto the other kits and force them upon other people? As I've said just make the swap to ANSI already and put all that behind you, my wife is Finnish as well and we both just use ANSI with reprogrammable keyboards and/or Portuguese/Finnish windows language preferences, it's not like we look at legends. I understand many will probably not want to do that but then you have to deal with it and accept the fact that this is a business and like any other sale in any other area if the numbers are not there then it's not happening. Talk to Mito, T0mb3ry, Livingspeedbump or anyone else and I'm pretty sure they'll all say the same Zambumon's already stated here.
What I understood is: Add Norde, put it into Base, otherwise It won't reach MoQ, let everyone receive NordeIf only Carbon international would be sold with the necessary keys to populate a keyboard. :( It's hard to imagine that there would be 150 sets available on the aftermarket at a reasonable price, which is why I think that carbon international is not likely to succeed.
I mean, it's not like you are requesting an additional set, which would make sense, you are explicitly requesting it to be added to the base set
My constructive suggestion: Support GMK Carbon's International now, if that set succeeds, you might request the exact same keycaps to be added as an extras pack - this makes sense
If only Carbon international would be sold with the necessary keys to populate a keyboard. :( It's hard to imagine that there would be 150 sets available on the aftermarket at a reasonable price, which is why I think that carbon international is not likely to succeed.
I've designed myself a keyset before, and have been actively following all of the group buys for the last couple years. I cannot justify the addition of a Nordic/German support as they knowing that it won't reach MoQ with GMK as those kits barely hit the 50 units in SA or doubleshot DSA.
Planck kit need 2 space bar
Planck kit need 2 space bar
Since when are there Plancks with 2 spacebars? AFAIK it's either 2u or 2x1u
Some people put two 2u on their split Plancks, and IIRC the Diverge TM from UniKeyboard requires two 2u.Planck kit need 2 space bar
Since when are there Plancks with 2 spacebars? AFAIK it's either 2u or 2x1u
Is there a possibility for Ergodox kits?
Regarding the discusion about an ISO Norde / Germany set:
Wodan did a great job breaking down the Key requirements for an advanced ISO-International Kit.
For details you could check his thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85609.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85609.0)
But the gist of it:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XAmS4py.png)
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Meanwhile I just keep on praying that one day I will get an GMK Set that I can use at work :)
sorry since it's been mentioned a few times, but I must reassure my interest in an international kit (and the set in general ofc) :)
1. Carbon international succeeded, unlike ah so many ansi GMK sets before.sorry since it's been mentioned a few times, but I must reassure my interest in an international kit (and the set in general ofc) :)
Carbon had issues with the international kit on MD recently, so I think that that will be rough.
1. Carbon international succeeded, unlike ah so many ansi GMK sets before.sorry since it's been mentioned a few times, but I must reassure my interest in an international kit (and the set in general ofc) :)
Carbon had issues with the international kit on MD recently, so I think that that will be rough.
2. It had it unreasonably rough because base sets were not readily available at a reasonable price.
300 USD is a great price for a GMK set ... and even at those odds it succeeded, making me think that there is more interest for international GMK than you give credit for.1. Carbon international succeeded, unlike ah so many ansi GMK sets before.sorry since it's been mentioned a few times, but I must reassure my interest in an international kit (and the set in general ofc) :)
Carbon had issues with the international kit on MD recently, so I think that that will be rough.
2. It had it unreasonably rough because base sets were not readily available at a reasonable price.
True, but nonetheless struggled to reach that number with over 1800 base sets sold. I'm aware of the circumstances :P but still, it struggled.
sorry since it's been mentioned a few times, but I must reassure my interest in an international kit (and the set in general ofc) :)
Carbon had issues with the international kit on MD recently, so I think that that will be rough.
I agree with JChan, and I doubt that the International kit unlocks (unless GMK exceptionally lowers the MOQ for just that kit like they have done with the Carbon Add-On). That being said, this is what I've been thinking:Just dump UK to the international pool as well for a better chance of success.
- Base kit Remains as it is or minor changes
- Explorer kit Remains as it is or minor changes
- New:Planck & Ergodox
- New:Novelties (community novelties + Nautilus novelties)
- New:Yellow Spacebars 6U, 6.25U and 7U
- New:International kit: Nordic and German. It will have less keycaps than Carbon's as I want to make it more compact in order to get more people getting it.
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/9X6SU0P.jpg)
I agree with JChan, and I doubt that the International kit unlocks (unless GMK exceptionally lowers the MOQ for just that kit like they have done with the Carbon Add-On). That being said, this is what I've been thinking:
- Base kit Remains as it is or minor changes
- Explorer kit Remains as it is or minor changes
- New:Planck & Ergodox
- New:Novelties (community novelties + Nautilus novelties)
- New:Yellow Spacebars 6U, 6.25U and 7U
- New:International kit: Nordic and German. It will have less keycaps than Carbon's as I want to make it more compact in order to get more people getting it.
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/9X6SU0P.jpg)
Regarding the discusion about an ISO Norde / Germany set:
Wodan did a great job breaking down the Key requirements for an advanced ISO-International Kit.
For details you could check his thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85609.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85609.0)
But the gist of it:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XAmS4py.png)
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Meanwhile I just keep on praying that one day I will get an GMK Set that I can use at work :)
Pretty please.Regarding the discusion about an ISO Norde / Germany set:
Wodan did a great job breaking down the Key requirements for an advanced ISO-International Kit.
For details you could check his thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85609.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85609.0)
But the gist of it:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XAmS4py.png)
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Meanwhile I just keep on praying that one day I will get an GMK Set that I can use at work :)
Yes, please consider this.
any renders with the yellow spacebar? wondering how that looks
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:any renders with the yellow spacebar? wondering how that looksShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/f3GPs9o.png)
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/f3GPs9o.png)
any renders with the yellow spacebar? wondering how that looksShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/f3GPs9o.png)
any renders with the yellow spacebar? wondering how that looksShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/f3GPs9o.png)
Nice. is this separate kit or included in base kit ?
any renders with the yellow spacebar? wondering how that looksShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/f3GPs9o.png)
Nice. is this separate kit or included in base kit ?
It will be a separate kit.
Can we swap the yellows into the base kit :p
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Can we swap the yellows into the base kit :p
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this. though if 6.25u yellow spacebar is already in the base kit, less ppl would buy the space bar kit itself. GMK Carbon as example, of ~2000 base kit sold, only 150 or so bought the space bar kit :(
any renders with the yellow spacebar? wondering how that looksShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/f3GPs9o.png)
any renders with the yellow spacebar? wondering how that looksShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/f3GPs9o.png)
any renders with the yellow spacebar? wondering how that looksShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/f3GPs9o.png)
Nice. is this separate kit or included in base kit ?
It will be a separate kit.
any renders with the yellow spacebar? wondering how that looksShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/f3GPs9o.png)
Nice. is this separate kit or included in base kit ?
It will be a separate kit.
will we get to see renders of the 'separate kit' ?
Great design, too bad its split up into horrible kits instead of one inclusive one.
Great design, too bad its split up into horrible kits instead of one inclusive one.
Not everyone has infinite money. I very much appreciate it being split up into (really rather beautiful) kits rather than one big kit, the vast majority of the keys never used. It's far more inclusive to do it the way Zambumon has done it, then to price most people (me included) out of the keyset entirely. It's perfect just how it is Zambumon, I hope this keyset goes far :D
Great design, too bad its split up into horrible kits instead of one inclusive one.
Not everyone has infinite money. I very much appreciate it being split up into (really rather beautiful) kits rather than one big kit, the vast majority of the keys never used. It's far more inclusive to do it the way Zambumon has done it, then to price most people (me included) out of the keyset entirely. It's perfect just how it is Zambumon, I hope this keyset goes far :D
Doesnt splitting up into more kits raise the price for each kit since theres more moq.
Gmk retro on massdrop is a perfect example.
Great design, too bad its split up into horrible kits instead of one inclusive one.
Not everyone has infinite money. I very much appreciate it being split up into (really rather beautiful) kits rather than one big kit, the vast majority of the keys never used. It's far more inclusive to do it the way Zambumon has done it, then to price most people (me included) out of the keyset entirely. It's perfect just how it is Zambumon, I hope this keyset goes far :D
Doesnt splitting up into more kits raise the price for each kit since theres more moq.
Gmk retro on massdrop is a perfect example.
Hi, what is going to be the MOQ of the norde set, and is UK going to be moved there?
If you are going to keep UK in the main set, and are unable to negotiate a MOQ of less than 150, could you please consider making the norde kit a base kit replacement instead of an addon? It would reduce the cost immensely by removing about 35U worth of completely unnecessary keys and by reducing the amount of kits needed by one (I assume that sorting and setup fees are charged on a per kit basis).Hi, what is going to be the MOQ of the norde set, and is UK going to be moved there?
GMK MOQ is 150 units.
Great design, too bad its split up into horrible kits instead of one inclusive one.
Not everyone has infinite money. I very much appreciate it being split up into (really rather beautiful) kits rather than one big kit, the vast majority of the keys never used. It's far more inclusive to do it the way Zambumon has done it, then to price most people (me included) out of the keyset entirely. It's perfect just how it is Zambumon, I hope this keyset goes far :D
Doesnt splitting up into more kits raise the price for each kit since theres more moq.
Gmk retro on massdrop is a perfect example.
Do not compare GMK Retro, which had 2 options per kit, and you needed Base Alphas($65) + True Retro Kit($60) + Pro Retro Modifiers($35)+ Numpad Kit ($35) to cover a Redscarf96 or full-sized Winkeyless ($195) with GMK Nautilus, where you can cover those board with a Base kit that will most likely be under the $110 and the Explorer kit.
Thanks again for including UK ISO in the base set Zambumon, we really appreciate it :)The synergy in norde region is so high, that it would be cheaper to have a separate base set even if the ansi base would reach 1000+ sold. The synergy is similar to ansi + uk, in which only minimal amount of keys is required to support additional locales (swe/fi + de + no + dk).
There's a difference between some people having the wrong legends, and some people literally not having the keys to fit on their keyboard when they use a standard layout and have bought a base set.
I will definitely buy it if ISO is in the base set but don't think I'll be able to afford it if it's a separate kit.
Separate base sets for each standard is an interesting idea, would it work in practice?
How does everyone feel about icon mods?Love icon-only mods, meh on mixed mods. And I'm told that GMK doesn't have the molds for a full set of icon-only mods so, personally, I don't see any point.
How does everyone feel about icon mods?Love icon-only mods, meh on mixed mods. And I'm told that GMK doesn't have the molds for a full set of icon-only mods so, personally, I don't see any point.
Sweet! Do you have any links? My google-fu is failing me.How does everyone feel about icon mods?Love icon-only mods, meh on mixed mods. And I'm told that GMK doesn't have the molds for a full set of icon-only mods so, personally, I don't see any point.
Full icon modifiers are standard for some European layouts, HAD keyboards feature them. Molds, are available.
Not everyone has infinite money. I very much appreciate it being split up into (really rather beautiful) kits rather than one big kit, the vast majority of the keys never used. It's far more inclusive to do it the way Zambumon has done it, then to price most people (me included) out of the keyset entirely. It's perfect just how it is Zambumon, I hope this keyset goes far :D
Doesnt splitting up into more kits raise the price for each kit since theres more moq.Yea, it is almost a perfect example except the dual options kit has always been an ever big mistake for reaching MOQ imo.
Gmk retro on massdrop is a perfect example.
Most people don't buy the kits, by splitting it up it becomes cheaper for most people. If you want to buy a kit, then yes it's more expensive because fewer of them are being produced.
But since the main set is much cheaper, more people will buy the main set, which means there's a higher chance that anything gets produced at all. And I say that as a person who always wants the ISO-Nordic kit, but I'm not going to force everybody else to also buy the ISO-Nordic kit (by including the kit in the main set) so I can have it cheaper
Do not compare GMK Retro, which had 2 options per kit, and you needed Base Alphas($65) + True Retro Kit($60) + Pro Retro Modifiers($35)+ Numpad Kit ($35) to cover a Redscarf96 or full-sized Winkeyless ($195) with GMK Nautilus, where you can cover those board with a Base kit that will most likely be under the $110 and the Explorer kit.
Great design, too bad its split up into horrible kits instead of one inclusive one.
Not everyone has infinite money. I very much appreciate it being split up into (really rather beautiful) kits rather than one big kit, the vast majority of the keys never used. It's far more inclusive to do it the way Zambumon has done it, then to price most people (me included) out of the keyset entirely. It's perfect just how it is Zambumon, I hope this keyset goes far :D
Doesnt splitting up into more kits raise the price for each kit since theres more moq.
Gmk retro on massdrop is a perfect example.
Is there any possible way to get a kit for modifiers in the same color and legends as the alphas?
Does the 6u spacebar have center stem? Finding 6u spacebar cap for infinity 60 is quite hard due to it centered stem
Maybe I'm missing the information, will these support 1800 layout? Thanks
Explorer kit
This kit provides the keycaps needed to cover non-standard layouts such as 65%, Winkeyless, FC660M or Clueboard, Infinity 60% Hacker, 1800 layouts (such as the ZZ96 or the Duck Lightsaver), and the HHKB. Notable inclusions are the 6U and 7U space bars, the R4 1.75U and 2.25U Shift, or the R2 1.5U Delete. Do you need the keycaps' sizes? Here you go
Please consider offering this as a international essentials kit:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XAmS4py.png)
I put a lot of thought into the keycap selection, please check out this link for more background information:
https://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/designing-the-ultimate-norde-kit-for-gmk-t14443.html (https://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/designing-the-ultimate-norde-kit-for-gmk-t14443.html)
Would love to assist anywhere I can if there are questions!
This set looks really, reeeaally good!
I'm usually not interested in novelty sets at all, but for this one it would be really nice if it included an octopus or a squid.
I know you've already designed the novelties, but here's hoping for some cephalopods ;D
This set looks really, reeeaally good!
I'm usually not interested in novelty sets at all, but for this one it would be really nice if it included an octopus or a squid.
I know you've already designed the novelties, but here's hoping for some cephalopods ;D
Why an octopus or a squid when we can have a Nautilus!
Please, do not post over and over again regarding an international kit as I've already addressed this question. There will be an international kit which will cover both Nordic and German layouts and it will be very similar to the keycaps I've offered for Chocolatier.
Love the colorway! However, is there any consideration in making an SA version in the future?
Plus SA profile kinda stinks :p GMK is right, gmk is tight.
Plus SA profile kinda stinks :p GMK is right, gmk is tight.
GMK4lyfe
Plus SA profile kinda stinks :p GMK is right, gmk is tight.
Plus SA profile kinda stinks :p GMK is right, gmk is tight.
There's been whispers of Calm Depths returning this year, so I hope that it stays SA -- otherwise the alphas will be too similar
Maybe one day there'll be a GMK dvorak set/kit.I pressed the >Terminal_ team to make a Colevrak set. I thought they were the best chance given their focus on compatibility but it didn't happen. Given the poor turnout of the International kit, I can't say I blame them.
Any news on this? GMK Plum knew it was gonna be run in Feb 2017 awhile ago. Is there a "relative" date when this will go as well?
$100 base + $30 compatibility kit (sometimes included in base kit for $130) has been done several times lately when there is little fluff in the price. Some sets sneak up to $150-160 with some fluff. Glad this will be on the low end.
Great news!
I'll be posting a huge update this week regarding this project. :thumb:
Great news!
I'll be posting a huge update this week regarding this project. :thumb:
Great news!
I'll be posting a huge update this week regarding this project. :thumb:
Great news!
I'll be posting a huge update this week regarding this project. :thumb:
Great news!
I'll be posting a huge update this week regarding this project. :thumb:Show Image(https://media1.giphy.com/media/13EOgFTzFfiUM/giphy.gif)
Nautilus GB is coming on Q2 2017**** yeah.
via MassdropDamn it.
Update Time
Vote now on Massdrop! (http://bit.ly/NautilusPoll)
Exciting news! Nautilus GB is coming on Q2 2017 via Massdrop :DShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/NIbRBPy.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/kFnbzM2.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7SrhPvz.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xgyvF5y.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/O75E4KI.png)
PD: novelties will be revealed on February 23rd
Love the huge base kit, definitely in on this. Those icon only backspace keys look a little weird though, since everything else is icon + text. edit: I guess there's not much that can be done since the word backspace wouldn't fit. The hhkb delete icon would fill the key more though. Or just "backspace" without icon.
Nautilus GB is coming on Q2 2017**** yeah.via MassdropDamn it.
I hope aftermarket isn't **** :))
Nautilus GB is coming on Q2 2017**** yeah.via MassdropDamn it.
I hope aftermarket isn't **** :))
IDK, while I hear horror stories from time to time, I think it's still a safer bet than a random mechmarket user, plus increased price.
Love the huge base kit, definitely in on this. Those icon only backspace keys look a little weird though, since everything else is icon + text. edit: I guess there's not much that can be done since the word backspace wouldn't fit. The hhkb delete icon would fill the key more though. Or just "backspace" without icon.
Yeah the hhkb backspace is one that is hard to come to an agreement on. I think this is the better of the two icon backspaces, but since the rest of the modifiers have text I would have liked to see text only hhkb backspace for this kit.
There's no 1.75u "FN" key in this set, correct? I see 1u and 1.5u, but not 1.75u. (I typically set the Caps Lock key on my Pok3rs to be another FN key via DIP switches).
OP can we have a Stepped Ctrl? ;)
Glad to see you listened to suggestions and made it a more inclusive base kit, if anything can hit 1000 units I think it'll be this.
Well done on having blue short spacebars :)
I do not have any plans to add that keycap. Keep in mind that only a small group of enthusiasts
use CTRL instead of CAPS LOCK and even a smaller group of people use a stepped one.
I do not have any plans to add that keycap. Keep in mind that only a small group of enthusiasts
use CTRL instead of CAPS LOCK and even a smaller group of people use a stepped one.
I do not have any plans to add that keycap. Keep in mind that only a small group of enthusiasts
use CTRL instead of CAPS LOCK and even a smaller group of people use a stepped one.
The set is only missing the 1.75u R3 Control to offer full HHKB layout support. If the set already includes most of the caps to cover it, why are you giving them most, but not all of the keys they need? After all, it is the same small group of enthusiasts that need the Control key, along with the other keys that support the HHKB layout, that are already included.
I do not have any plans to add that keycap. Keep in mind that only a small group of enthusiasts
use CTRL instead of CAPS LOCK and even a smaller group of people use a stepped one.
The set is only missing the 1.75u R3 Control to offer full HHKB layout support. If the set already includes most of the caps to cover it, why are you giving them most, but not all of the keys they need? After all, it is the same small group of enthusiasts that need the Control key, along with the other keys that support the HHKB layout, that are already included.
could we have kit of dvorak add-on?I would also be interested in a Colevrak kit. Since this is running on Massdrop there's a good chance it will drop.
could we have kit of dvorak add-on?
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PD: novelties will be revealed on February 23rd
I do not have any plans to add that keycap. Keep in mind that only a small group of enthusiasts
use CTRL instead of CAPS LOCK and even a smaller group of people use a stepped one.
The set is only missing the 1.75u R3 Control to offer full HHKB layout support. If the set already includes most of the caps to cover it, why are you giving them most, but not all of the keys they need? After all, it is the same small group of enthusiasts that need the Control key, along with the other keys that support the HHKB layout, that are already included.
No, the set isn't offering a 1.75U STEPPED R3 Control. The base kit does include a 1.75U R3 Control.
I saw the Norde kit has noly 25 keys, but I compared this with Yuri 's Norde kit, it has 46 keys.
With such less keys, can 25 keys meet the need of those European keyboards?
I don't quit familiar with European keyboards, If 25 keys are enough to serve, that would lower the cost, and make this kit more easyer to happen. :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7SrhPvz.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Ju72SsU.png)
Any chance for a pair of R3 accent keys on the Planck kit?
I saw the Norde kit has noly 25 keys, but I compared this with Yuri 's Norde kit, it has 46 keys.
With such less keys, can 25 keys meet the need of those European keyboards?
I don't quit familiar with European keyboards, If 25 keys are enough to serve, that would lower the cost, and make this kit more easyer to happen. :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7SrhPvz.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Ju72SsU.png)
I know it's probably never gonna happen, but I'd love to see an R3 accent key for the ergodox (1.5u). If the R1 ergodox row was replicated for R3, that would be amazing.Any chance for a pair of R3 accent keys on the Planck kit?
That accent R3s never appear in any GMK dox/planck kit :/
I saw the Norde kit has noly 25 keys, but I compared this with Yuri 's Norde kit, it has 46 keys.
With such less keys, can 25 keys meet the need of those European keyboards?
I don't quit familiar with European keyboards, If 25 keys are enough to serve, that would lower the cost, and make this kit more easyer to happen. :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7SrhPvz.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Ju72SsU.png)
Some of those 25 keys are already in the base set
I saw the Norde kit has noly 25 keys, but I compared this with Yuri 's Norde kit, it has 46 keys.
With such less keys, can 25 keys meet the need of those European keyboards?
I don't quit familiar with European keyboards, If 25 keys are enough to serve, that would lower the cost, and make this kit more easyer to happen. :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7SrhPvz.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Ju72SsU.png)
Some of those 25 keys are already in the base set
Which ones? I don't see any duplicates within the same row.
I'm torn between the fact that I've already purchased too many keyboards, and the fact that I want this. Decisions, decisions.
I'm torn between the fact that I've already purchased too many keyboards, and the fact that I want this. Decisions, decisions.
Easy, the more keyboards the more keysets you need.
My problem is too much, too quickly! The amount I've spent this month alone....I'm torn between the fact that I've already purchased too many keyboards, and the fact that I want this. Decisions, decisions.
Easy, the more keyboards the more keysets you need.
And vice versa, it's never ending...... =]
My problem is too much, too quickly! The amount I've spent this month alone....I'm torn between the fact that I've already purchased too many keyboards, and the fact that I want this. Decisions, decisions.
Easy, the more keyboards the more keysets you need.
And vice versa, it's never ending...... =]
Can we please get a center stemmed 6u Spacebar instead of the lopsided one? This would ensure that the kit works with MX converted topre boards.... would be huge!
I don't think aqua letters font matches gold font. I think if the letter font be the same as the gold font it would look better. Although I'd like to order one when I'll get my pok3r. Best color scheme ever.
It does. Unfortunately, due to thickness GMK keycaps interfere with NovaTouch switch housings for keys with stabilizers. :(what? I had gmk hyperfuse on my novatouch I had no issues.
GMK stabilized keys will clack on the slider housing (shift, enter, backspace), but they still work.
have the colors been indicated anywhere? i dont see them on the full set render, which is where they typically are.
- Alphas are Pantone 534 C
- Alphas legends are TU2
- Modifiers are Pantone 533 C
- Modifiers legends are GMK N6
- Alternate modifiers are GMK N6
- Alternate modifiers legends are Pantone 533 C
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have the colors been indicated anywhere? i dont see them on the full set render, which is where they typically are.
Near the bottom of the OP:
- Alphas are Pantone 534 C
- Alphas legends are TU2
- Modifiers are Pantone 533 C
- Modifiers legends are GMK N6
- Alternate modifiers are GMK N6
- Alternate modifiers legends are Pantone 533 C
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Sigh. Love your sets (and Wes A. movies)… but Colemak and my undying love for the Ergodox come in the way of a purchase again.Speak up on https://www.massdrop.com/vote/Nautilus-The-Tale-of-a-Explorer/talk/1604475 .... what I had to say:
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Why are they so many nice keysets coming out so often.. My wallet can't take it.. D:
Why are they so many nice keysets coming out so often.. My wallet can't take it.. D:
With GMK expanding their stock color options, it's opened up some new possibilities for GMK sets. Then you've got additional makers coming up with MaxKeys, the XDA profile caps, and Devlin. Looks like we're going to find ourselves in a more steady stream of caps coming along now, potentially. Given the quantity of buyers seems to be increasing, probably not a huge surprise.
what happened with the international set?A NorDe kit was added to the Massdrop poll (https://www.massdrop.com/vote/Nautilus-The-Tale-of-a-Explorer/result) as option and received, as of now, 243 votes. It's likely to be offered and, hopefully, produced.
Why are they so many nice keysets coming out so often.. My wallet can't take it.. D:
With GMK expanding their stock color options, it's opened up some new possibilities for GMK sets. Then you've got additional makers coming up with MaxKeys, the XDA profile caps, and Devlin. Looks like we're going to find ourselves in a more steady stream of caps coming along now, potentially. Given the quantity of buyers seems to be increasing, probably not a huge surprise.
Why are they so many nice keysets coming out so often.. My wallet can't take it.. D:
With GMK expanding their stock color options, it's opened up some new possibilities for GMK sets. Then you've got additional makers coming up with MaxKeys, the XDA profile caps, and Devlin. Looks like we're going to find ourselves in a more steady stream of caps coming along now, potentially. Given the quantity of buyers seems to be increasing, probably not a huge surprise.
Gmk is really pushing the market with lower moq and more colors at the moment. But maxkey has very limited layout design due to missing molds, it will take a very long time until we can see real group buys like this one from them. And Devlin ****ed up everything they could, apart from planck sets I wouldn't expect too much from them within the forseeable future.
And hopefully XDA will remain an affordable set as jchan offered it, 15$ for a planck set would be awesome. I'm really excited to see the delivery of the first buy this month so that we know about their quality.
Any more updates on this set and the novelties? I'm really looking forward to it!Novelties are still TBA. Idk if it will drop before DSA Miami Dolch or not.
Novelties are still TBA. Idk if it will drop before DSA Miami Dolch or not.
Still, poll me for Colevorak ^__^In for Colevrak
Dang, at this point Yuri will come out sooner than this set. No worries for me tho since I'll still be picking up both of them!
The github project site and this thread has different kit setups - which ones are correct?yeah, there's no mention of 40% support in this post and it has me a bit worried :/
The github project site and this thread has different kit setups - which ones are correct?
I feel like the novelties are a bit of a missed opportunity. I love the whole aquatic theme of my DSA Royal Navy caps, but this goes a different direction. These aren't bad, and I do like the community theme, but there easily could have been some great whales or something. Still, can't wait for the drop.
Between this, Yuri and S2 Carbons... man my wife is gonna kill me!Same but I'm also tracking Laser, Aero, and Hitchhiker
Between this, Yuri and S2 Carbons... man my wife is gonna kill me!Same but I'm also tracking Laser, Aero, and Hitchhiker
All the keys required to populate a HHKB style layout are in the Explorer key, but the R3 1.75U Control key. Shouldn't the Control key be moved to the Explorer kit?
All the keys required to populate a HHKB style layout are in the Explorer key, but the R3 1.75U Control key. Shouldn't the Control key be moved to the Explorer kit?
Nah, I'd prefer to use it in place of Caps Lock since I use that key as a function layer.
All the keys required to populate a HHKB style layout are in the Explorer key, but the R3 1.75U Control key. Shouldn't the Control key be moved to the Explorer kit?
Nah, I'd prefer to use it in place of Caps Lock since I use that key as a function layer.
Does that mean that you just use the Control key Unix Style, but not the other HHKB's keys?
Updated OP
Now that GMK is willing to make 1u and 2u convex spacebars, will the Ergodox/Planck kit be changed to reflect that?
Updated OP
Hey, will there be a yellow R3 1u for the Ergo/Planck kit? Seems a little odd that yellow 1u in R1, R2 and R4 are included but not R3.
Hey zambumon, you think they will be novelties, if so good **** my man
Zambumon,
If the Yuri Colevrak kit is successful, will you consider adding one to Nautilus?
COLEMAK and DVORAK USERS UNITE! ;D
I added a poll option for Colevrak support to the massdrop poll so get out there and vote!
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/Nautilus-The-Tale-of-a-Explorer?mode=guest_open
COLEMAK and DVORAK USERS UNITE! ;D
I added a poll option for Colevrak support to the massdrop poll so get out there and vote!
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/Nautilus-The-Tale-of-a-Explorer?mode=guest_open
so, you took the C/D render from Yuri, which to my knowledge is the first custom GMK set to ever offer these keys, and put it on the massdrop vote for Nautilus... did you run that by the designer (Zambumon)?
bold strategy, cotton
COLEMAK and DVORAK USERS UNITE! ;D
I added a poll option for Colevrak support to the massdrop poll so get out there and vote!
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/Nautilus-The-Tale-of-a-Explorer?mode=guest_open
so, you took the C/D render from Yuri, which to my knowledge is the first custom GMK set to ever offer these keys, and put it on the massdrop vote for Nautilus... did you run that by the designer (Zambumon)?
bold strategy, cotton
If Colemak & Dvorak kit hits MOQ, Nautilus will get one for sure, you have my word. :thumb:
wow! this is shaping up to be a landmark year for custom keysets
If Colemak & Dvorak kit hits MOQ, Nautilus will get one for sure, you have my word. :thumb:
Can you nudge them to offer convex space bars in a few more sizes?Now that GMK is willing to make 1u and 2u convex spacebars, will the Ergodox/Planck kit be changed to reflect that?
I'll have to talk with GMK about it, if the molds are ready by the time Nautilus is produced, sure.
How does pricing work? It's so weird that on originative.co, gmk sets go for $180. Yet gmk yuri base set, (which has a bunch of keys), goes for $130. Since this is gonna be on massdrop, will gmk nautilus be $130? Thanks.
How does pricing work? It's so weird that on originative.co, gmk sets go for $180. Yet gmk yuri base set, (which has a bunch of keys), goes for $130. Since this is gonna be on massdrop, will gmk nautilus be $130? Thanks.
How does pricing work? It's so weird that on originative.co, gmk sets go for $180. Yet gmk yuri base set, (which has a bunch of keys), goes for $130. Since this is gonna be on massdrop, will gmk nautilus be $130? Thanks.
Any chance of a blue ISO enter key being included?
This would be great, the keycaps of my favorite movie along with my favored layout. Though, at the moment it doesn't look like the magic 100 for the MOQ will be reached. I'd be surprised if Yuri's DC kit reaches 90 orders (in which case hopefully Massdrop will buy the 10 remaining).COLEMAK and DVORAK USERS UNITE! ;D
I added a poll option for Colevrak support to the massdrop poll so get out there and vote!
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/Nautilus-The-Tale-of-a-Explorer?mode=guest_open
so, you took the C/D render from Yuri, which to my knowledge is the first custom GMK set to ever offer these keys, and put it on the massdrop vote for Nautilus... did you run that by the designer (Zambumon)?
bold strategy, cotton
If Colemak & Dvorak kit hits MOQ, Nautilus will get one for sure, you have my word. :thumb:
Not sure if its too late, but I think it would be really helpful if this group buy lasted until the end of June. Looking at the survey results, a lot of people into mk are around 20 years old, myself included. So I, and I am sure many others, have summer jobs/internships that they are waiting to start for mk money :). And with the recent drop of Yuri, plus Carbon coming out next week (even though I haven't bought Yuri), I think it would be nice to have a bit of space. Just my opinion.With Carbon running (effectively) the beginning of June, this may not start until the end of June. Since 2 weeks seems to be the average length of these popular drops, the earliest it would start would be mid June, so going through to the end of June is almost guaranteed.
Not sure if its too late, but I think it would be really helpful if this group buy lasted until the end of June. Looking at the survey results, a lot of people into mk are around 20 years old, myself included. So I, and I am sure many others, have summer jobs/internships that they are waiting to start for mk money :). And with the recent drop of Yuri, plus Carbon coming out next week (even though I haven't bought Yuri), I think it would be nice to have a bit of space. Just my opinion.
Novelties are still TBD. Zambumon is still quiet about them.Not sure if its too late, but I think it would be really helpful if this group buy lasted until the end of June. Looking at the survey results, a lot of people into mk are around 20 years old, myself included. So I, and I am sure many others, have summer jobs/internships that they are waiting to start for mk money :). And with the recent drop of Yuri, plus Carbon coming out next week (even though I haven't bought Yuri), I think it would be nice to have a bit of space. Just my opinion.With Carbon running (effectively) the beginning of June, this may not start until the end of June. Since 2 weeks seems to be the average length of these popular drops, the earliest it would start would be mid June, so going through to the end of June is almost guaranteed.
On another topic, have the novelties ever been released? I know the project site says February 23rd or something like that. Did I miss them?
Any chance of an icon modifier child kit. I think that would look phenomenal with the Yuri alphas!
Any chance of an icon modifier child kit. I think that would look phenomenal with the Yuri alphas!
I second this. Just mods in yellow font and that yellow ISO enter would be awesome.
Blue ISO enter key omitted entirely is unfortunate. Didn't notice that before, but it would be nice to squeeze it in somewhere. Too late for it to go in the base kit?
what is the point of iso if i may ask, why does return need to be that big??? or is it just for the extra key on the left shift?
what is the point of iso if i may ask, why does return need to be that big??? or is it just for the extra key on the left shift?What is the point of ansi, if I may ask? ISO is at least an international standard. ;)
what is the point of iso if i may ask, why does return need to be that big??? or is it just for the extra key on the left shift?What is the point of ansi, if I may ask? ISO is at least an international standard. ;)
Blue ISO enter key omitted entirely is unfortunate. Didn't notice that before, but it would be nice to squeeze it in somewhere. Too late for it to go in the base kit?
So GMK Yuri's Colevrak kit didn't hit MoQ, but people are saying that they have been invoiced for it meaning that GMK are going ahead with its production.
Is that a go-ahead for Nautilus Colevrak!?!?
So GMK Yuri's Colevrak kit didn't hit MoQ, but people are saying that they have been invoiced for it meaning that GMK are going ahead with its production.
Is that a go-ahead for Nautilus Colevrak!?!?
Best results, they managed to talk GMK into lowering the the MoQ.
Don't get your hopes up too much. Massdrop could just very well refund them the difference.
From what I remembered with the GMK carbon international kit, Massdrop just outright bought up the number of kits short of MOQ to get them produced, then they listed those extras they bought later on at one of those large stock clearance sale (not at clearance prices, mind you)
Nothing against Yuri itself but its colorway is a bit more niche in some sense compared to Nautilus and its DC kit still hit 46, which shows pretty decent support. Nautilus' colors should have wider general appeal and that is likely to boost the number of people buying in too.
Yuri sold over 750 base sets which is a crap ton for a custom keycap set. And yet still only 46 DC kits. That's the proper way to think about it.. 5-6% rate for DC, and that's not going to change based on the colorway. With moq on smaller kits usually set at 150, it's a pipe dream.I wouldn't say it's a pipe dream, but it it probably does require a different set layout. One in which all the non-standard users help each other. If international, DC, and other alternate layouts were put into one kit we may get enough buyers for it to tip. It would be expensive, but at least we could get the keys we want.
I wouldn't say it's a pipe dream, but it it probably does require a different set layout. One in which all the non-standard users help each other. If international, DC, and other alternate layouts were put into one kit we may get enough buyers for it to tip. It would be expensive, but at least we could get the keys we want.
You're absolutely right, people are going to complain. You can't stop that. But this idea is the very basis of the group buy. "I can't make this happen alone, so let's make it happen as a group." It really doesn't matter how many people complain, it just matters how many pony up the money to make it happen. Massdrop numbers show that there are generally more people interested (and willing to spend the money) on a DC kit than on the international kit so it should be the DC users complaining about supporting the vocal but non-spending i11l peeps. But I'll bet that it's the DC peeps that will be dropping the cash to make it happen. If the MOQ is 150 and the kit cost is under $150 (though I'd prefer under $100), then we only need to find 149 more peeps to make it happen. ;DI wouldn't say it's a pipe dream, but it it probably does require a different set layout. One in which all the non-standard users help each other. If international, DC, and other alternate layouts were put into one kit we may get enough buyers for it to tip. It would be expensive, but at least we could get the keys we want.
International users were already *****ing about how they have to buy a kit of 3-4 times more keys than what they need for their own language. Do you think they would have a change of heart now and help out DC & exotic layouts in 1 kit too? Humour me please!
DC doesn't face a regional barrier, it really should be able to stand on its' own. International is very different. Consider how some of the ANSI users object to subsidizing the ISO keys in the base kit, so it's that sentiment dialled up to 11 and instead of encouraging buyers it gives them a compelling reason to reject the set entirely.I think you could consider DC a regional kit. Or rather all regions could be considered alternate layouts (as in alternate from the base kit). The bottom line is that the goal is to have legends that match the key output, right?
Update time
I've been extremely busy over the last month but here is an update:
- Ergodox & Planck kit will come with R4C 2U and 1U spacebars
- Norde will stay as it is. Offering a $60 kit isn't viable for me.
- Dvorak & Colemak won't be offered.
- 7 kits will be available for purchase.
I don't think it will ever work to keep pushing the poor value kits with large numbers of keys that will be unused. Buyers want value for their money regardless of how much disposable cash they have. We're reading GH (or Reddit or Deskthority) but I think most would not be aware of the reasoning that drives the kit grouping, they just see: "Hey these keys look awesome, what do I need for my keyboard? there's the language kit. How much? Why do I have to buy all those when I just need #? Seller is a cheat and treating us like idiots. I'm not buying this!"I agree that is probably how most people think. My point is that you can't keep idiots from being idiots. You can only hope to educate them, and barring that, ignore them and still hope for a successful GB.
I worked in an industry where similar issues occur, everyone complains about extremely high, constantly spiraling costs, but buyers really don't care about that because they are only interested in the value for their $ and they can get that better value elsewhere.
DC ought to be different because anyone using it should be able to make full use of the keys they are buying and there shouldn't be the same reason to resent paying for it.
Update timeWhile no DC makes me sad, but if it won't tip, it won't tip. I'm still interested in base and ErgoPlanck.
I've been extremely busy over the last month but here is an update:
- Ergodox & Planck kit will come with R4C 2U and 1U spacebars
- Norde will stay as it is. Offering a $60 kit isn't viable for me.
- Dvorak & Colemak won't be offered.
- 7 kits will be available for purchase.
You are incorrect about the DC kit...fair enough, I thought there were only a few keys that didn't overlap + the selection of scooped and bars for home on each
Update timeOh well, GLWS I guess.
Norde will stay as it is. Offering a $60 kit isn't viable for me.[/li][/list]
Update time
I've been extremely busy over the last month but here is an update:
- Ergodox & Planck kit will come with R4C 2U and 1U spacebars
- Norde will stay as it is. Offering a $60 kit isn't viable for me.
- Dvorak & Colemak won't be offered.
- 7 kits will be available for purchase.
Can't wait... day 1 buy for me ;D
So will this drop after SA Carbon or GMK Laser?
So how is it looking for more sizes of space bars?
Yeah, so have you inquired whether it'd be possible to make some or all of the last three sizes convex?So how is it looking for more sizes of space bars?
R4c: 2U, 6U, 6.25U, 7U
R4: 1.75U, 2.25U, 2.75U
Right after Carbon.
Yeah, so have you inquired whether it'd be possible to make some or all of the last three sizes convex?So how is it looking for more sizes of space bars?
R4c: 2U, 6U, 6.25U, 7U
R4: 1.75U, 2.25U, 2.75U
Could we have a comment on the option for a Blue ISO enter ? Thanks :)
Yeah, so have you inquired whether it'd be possible to make some or all of the last three sizes convex?So how is it looking for more sizes of space bars?
R4c: 2U, 6U, 6.25U, 7U
R4: 1.75U, 2.25U, 2.75U
Making new molds is always possible. However, Nautilus won't have more R4C molds other than the 2Us and 1Us.
Could we have a comment on the option for a Blue ISO enter ? Thanks :)
My main objetive with this project was to offer a base kit right under the $100. I do want a GMK set that balances both compatibility and afforadibility. With that in mind, I want the core kits (such as the Base kit and Ergodox) to be as affordable as possible.
Now regarding ISO: unlike Carbon, the base kit comes with UK ISO. That's something that you guys complained with the very first version of Nautilus, and to keep things balanced I removed the blue ISO enter. However, if the pricepoint at 1000 units allows me to add a blue ISO enter while staying the $95-$105 price point, I'll make sure to include one.
Could we have a comment on the option for a Blue ISO enter ? Thanks :)
My main objetive with this project was to offer a base kit right under the $100. I do want a GMK set that balances both compatibility and afforadibility. With that in mind, I want the core kits (such as the Base kit and Ergodox) to be as affordable as possible.
Now regarding ISO: unlike Carbon, the base kit comes with UK ISO. That's something that you guys complained with the very first version of Nautilus, and to keep things balanced I removed the blue ISO enter. However, if the pricepoint at 1000 units allows me to add a blue ISO enter while staying the $95-$105 price point, I'll make sure to include one.
Couldnt a blue iso enter be included in the NORDE kit?
Could we have a comment on the option for a Blue ISO enter ? Thanks :)
My main objetive with this project was to offer a base kit right under the $100. I do want a GMK set that balances both compatibility and afforadibility. With that in mind, I want the core kits (such as the Base kit and Ergodox) to be as affordable as possible.
Now regarding ISO: unlike Carbon, the base kit comes with UK ISO. That's something that you guys complained with the very first version of Nautilus, and to keep things balanced I removed the blue ISO enter. However, if the pricepoint at 1000 units allows me to add a blue ISO enter while staying the $95-$105 price point, I'll make sure to include one.
Couldnt a blue iso enter be included in the NORDE kit?
I've been thinking a similar solution for this problem by moving the yellow ISO Enter to the novelties kit and keeping a blue one in the base kit. It might work.
Could we have a comment on the option for a Blue ISO enter ? Thanks :)
My main objetive with this project was to offer a base kit right under the $100. I do want a GMK set that balances both compatibility and afforadibility. With that in mind, I want the core kits (such as the Base kit and Ergodox) to be as affordable as possible.
Now regarding ISO: unlike Carbon, the base kit comes with UK ISO. That's something that you guys complained with the very first version of Nautilus, and to keep things balanced I removed the blue ISO enter. However, if the pricepoint at 1000 units allows me to add a blue ISO enter while staying the $95-$105 price point, I'll make sure to include one.
Couldnt a blue iso enter be included in the NORDE kit?
I've been thinking a similar solution for this problem by moving the yellow ISO Enter to the novelties kit and keeping a blue one in the base kit. It might work.
Could we have a comment on the option for a Blue ISO enter ? Thanks :)
My main objetive with this project was to offer a base kit right under the $100. I do want a GMK set that balances both compatibility and afforadibility. With that in mind, I want the core kits (such as the Base kit and Ergodox) to be as affordable as possible.
Now regarding ISO: unlike Carbon, the base kit comes with UK ISO. That's something that you guys complained with the very first version of Nautilus, and to keep things balanced I removed the blue ISO enter. However, if the pricepoint at 1000 units allows me to add a blue ISO enter while staying the $95-$105 price point, I'll make sure to include one.
Couldnt a blue iso enter be included in the NORDE kit?
I've been thinking a similar solution for this problem by moving the yellow ISO Enter to the novelties kit and keeping a blue one in the base kit. It might work.
Please don't do this, yellow really makes this set pop! The yellow is wonderful, really brings out the other colours, I'd be devastated if yellow iso enter wasn't in the base kit.
Could we have a comment on the option for a Blue ISO enter ? Thanks :)
My main objetive with this project was to offer a base kit right under the $100. I do want a GMK set that balances both compatibility and afforadibility. With that in mind, I want the core kits (such as the Base kit and Ergodox) to be as affordable as possible.
Now regarding ISO: unlike Carbon, the base kit comes with UK ISO. That's something that you guys complained with the very first version of Nautilus, and to keep things balanced I removed the blue ISO enter. However, if the pricepoint at 1000 units allows me to add a blue ISO enter while staying the $95-$105 price point, I'll make sure to include one.
Couldnt a blue iso enter be included in the NORDE kit?
I've been thinking a similar solution for this problem by moving the yellow ISO Enter to the novelties kit and keeping a blue one in the base kit. It might work.
Please don't do this, yellow really makes this set pop! The yellow is wonderful, really brings out the other colours, I'd be devastated if yellow iso enter wasn't in the base kit.
Agreed
So is this pushed back now that the Carbon drop was extended?
Yes, we'll have to wait and sea.
It's taking us longer than what we expected to get there, but July will come in no time. I'll continue to work hard on this set and re-run the IC with all the updated kits this week. :thumb:
I wonder if massdrop will continue this trend of "making sure everyone gets a chance to buy" aka "make more money on best sellers". Lol. Normally wouldn't mind, but when it pushes back their own queue I kind of do.
And to mixed reactions too. In K-Type drop, the 1st round buy-ins went ballistic with the extension. But in SA Carbon, the crowd seems to be calm. But then again, there isn't another drop like GMK Yuri currently on going. A lot of people seemed to buy less or drop out of Yuri for K-Type.I dropped out of Yuri when they announced Carbon.
I wonder if massdrop will continue this trend of "making sure everyone gets a chance to buy" aka "make more money on best sellers". Lol. Normally wouldn't mind, but when it pushes back their own queue I kind of do.
And to mixed reactions too. In K-Type drop, the 1st round buy-ins went ballistic with the extension. But in SA Carbon, the crowd seems to be calm. But then again, there isn't another drop like GMK Yuri currently on going. A lot of people seemed to buy less or drop out of Yuri for K-Type.
Are there no alternatives for the Number Row on this drop? I personally dislike the standard cherry design and always use novelties or whichever for that row.
Planned to have a topre spacebar for this set? :)
You're always stuck using topre spacebars though. I would suggest getting a white or light gray pbt topre spacebar and having it custom dyed to match. There is a gentleman on Reddit that does dye services and his color matching is spot on.
What about stab fitment though
The 6U spacebar will have a centered stem, so modding your Topre keyboard will be much easier now.
As far as I know, Yuri's 6U spacebars will have a centered stem.
Wait, did you confirm this 6u news with GMK? They've always used off-center stems for the 6u bars, have they had a mold with both center/off-center this whole time or are they now making one for Yuri?
Interesting. I wonder if massdrop actually asked them to make that since there are people always asking on drop pages if their Razer keyboard is compatible.
I guess that's true, they were on-board to make more convex caps for the planck/etc users. Also just to clarify, do you mean they're making 6u bars that have both centered/off-center stems or that they're switching from off-center to centered?
I guess that's true, they were on-board to make more convex caps for the planck/etc users. Also just to clarify, do you mean they're making 6u bars that have both centered/off-center stems or that they're switching from off-center to centered?
A double stem space bar looks like a better featured thing, than asking people opting for one or the other. SP does it, I do not see why GMK doesn't.There would be no room for a double stem in this case. The second stem would hit the side of the switch making it unusable.
A double stem space bar looks like a better featured thing, than asking people opting for one or the other. SP does it, I do not see why GMK doesn't.There would be no room for a double stem in this case. The second stem would hit the side of the switch making it unusable.
The 6U spacebar will have a centered stem, so modding your Topre keyboard will be much easier now.
Darn. I have been planning on putting this on my dox for a while now, but the new ergodox kit with legends sort of ruins it for me, as it doesn't match my layout at all. Why the change?
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June 6th updateWell at first there were some asking for a Stepped CTRL but the render of the base kit doesn't even have a Stepped key at all. Or did you just forgot a Stepped CapLock? Still secretly hoping for Stepped Ctrl 😌
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Base kit
Composed by almost 150 keycaps, the base kit balances cost and layout coverage: 60% (Poker, Ducky Mini, HHKB, KBParadise V60…), Leopold FC660M and Clueboard ,65% and 75% (Whitefox, TADA68, Saber68 M65-A, Exent, Octagon…) , TKL, ZZ96, RS96, Leopold FC980M, Duck Lightsaver, Duck Blackbird, 40% keyboards(JD40, JD45, Minorca, Minivan, and Caravan) and full-sized keyboards. It also includes UK ISO keycaps, winkeyless modifiers as well as a 6U spacebar with a centered stem.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Ct1lUed.png)
Ergodox & Planck
In combination with the base kit, the Ergodox & Planck kit provides all the extra keycaps you would need to cover your Ergodox, Kinesis Advantage, Planck, Preonic, or Let's Split. Includes 1U and 2U R4C keycaps. And yep, no blanks.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3twuoMY.png)
NORDE
NORDE provides Danish, Finnish, German, Norwegian, and Swedish the essential keycaps needed for their keyboard layouts while keeping in mind affordability.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/70bsMu3.png)
Community
Because The MK community is both the best and the worst of this hobby. This kit offers you a set of 12 R1 novelties.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LCotMkX.png)
Space bars
6u, 6.25U, and 7.00U spacebars as well as 1.75U, 2.00U, 2.25U, and 2.75U for split keyboards and 40 percentsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/VrMZeY8.png)
GalleryShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/GRRX3vO.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TOUw2Oh.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/BCS9IPR.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FhTpBWY.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/opddi14.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/GxNHhjg.png)
Darn. I have been planning on putting this on my dox for a while now, but the new ergodox kit with legends sort of ruins it for me, as it doesn't match my layout at all. Why the change?
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No stepped caps???? :-\
Darn. I have been planning on putting this on my dox for a while now, but the new ergodox kit with legends sort of ruins it for me, as it doesn't match my layout at all. Why the change?
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If you've been following the last 4-5 group buys at Massdrop, all the Ergodox kits have been doing really well, specially those with legends (check out Godspeed, for instance). This kit covers plenty of combinations for Plancks, Ergodoxes and even the Kinesis Advantage.
I've received countless PMs asking for a kit like this and I believe that Nautilus is a set that can make it possible.
Darn. I have been planning on putting this on my dox for a while now, but the new ergodox kit with legends sort of ruins it for me, as it doesn't match my layout at all. Why the change?
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While I don't use ergodox myself, I feel like it's a bad idea to have legends as per the reason stated above. People have lots of different layouts and might turn away people who would have otherwise purchased the kit.No stepped caps???? :-\
Hmmm that seems to be a pretty big oversight as well...
Is there any reason the 1u thumb cluster keycaps and the Lower and Raise keycaps aren't convex in the ErgoDox/Planck kit?
What do you mean? All thumb keycaps should be convex, not just space bars.Is there any reason the 1u thumb cluster keycaps and the Lower and Raise keycaps aren't convex in the ErgoDox/Planck kit?
Those work as spacebars, not as Raise and lower keycaps.
What do you mean? All thumb keycaps should be convex, not just space bars.Is there any reason the 1u thumb cluster keycaps and the Lower and Raise keycaps aren't convex in the ErgoDox/Planck kit?
Those work as spacebars, not as Raise and lower keycaps.
There is. Yuri had convex 1u keycaps and this set has them too.What do you mean? All thumb keycaps should be convex, not just space bars.Is there any reason the 1u thumb cluster keycaps and the Lower and Raise keycaps aren't convex in the ErgoDox/Planck kit?
Those work as spacebars, not as Raise and lower keycaps.
Not sure there's a mold for 1u convex keys yet. It is a good idea to get those made though.
No blue iso enter? Couldnt it be fitted into something like Norde kit?
Could we have a comment on the option for a Blue ISO enter ? Thanks :)
My main objetive with this project was to offer a base kit right under the $100. I do want a GMK set that balances both compatibility and afforadibility. With that in mind, I want the core kits (such as the Base kit and Ergodox) to be as affordable as possible.
Now regarding ISO: unlike Carbon, the base kit comes with UK ISO. That's something that you guys complained with the very first version of Nautilus, and to keep things balanced I removed the blue ISO enter. However, if the pricepoint at 1000 units allows me to add a blue ISO enter while staying the $95-$105 price point, I'll make sure to include one.
Does anyone know which keyboard is the first pic of Gallery?
Does anyone know which keyboard is the first pic of Gallery?
It's just a render, that keyboard doesn't exist
Will buy 3-5 sets if nordic is added to base or non-standard.
Darn. I have been planning on putting this on my dox for a while now, but the new ergodox kit with legends sort of ruins it for me, as it doesn't match my layout at all. Why the change?
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If you've been following the last 4-5 group buys at Massdrop, all the Ergodox kits have been doing really well, specially those with legends (check out Godspeed, for instance). This kit covers plenty of combinations for Plancks, Ergodoxes and even the Kinesis Advantage.
I've received countless PMs asking for a kit like this and I believe that Nautilus is a set that can make it possible.
The introduction of legends in the Ergodox kit made this a must buy for me. I'm not an Ergodox user but I am a beginning Planck user and I really like the look of legends on my modifiers. I'm curious about what layouts the Ergodox users are using that don't match these legends -- it seems like the keys in the Ergodox kit along with the keys in the base kit would cover 99% of the Ergodox layouts I've seen in my cursory google search.
yall need to calm down, theres no way this guy can cater to every single one of ure "needs"
I see the base kit is described as supporting the 65% layout of the Tada68/Saber68, but I don't see the R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn used in the default layout on those keyboards. Can that be added?
Novelties: awaiting GMK's response regarding any issues with them.
Novelties: awaiting GMK's response regarding any issues with them.
Which novelties are you referring to? Can't find any renders of them
- Norde: A blue iso enter has been added to this kit as I don't want to add more keycaps to the base kit, but still want to offer one.
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I don't think GMK has 3u molds. YURI didn't even have them IIRCYup. Yuri only had 2.75 u keys in the spacebar
Here is an update regarding all of Nautilus' kits:
- Base kit: No changes
- Norde: A blue iso enter has been added to this kit as I don't want to add more keycaps to the base kit, but still want to offer one.
- Dvorak & Colemak: I've reconsidered my position about this kit and it would be the best for everyone to offer it.
- Ergodox & Planck: some R2 1.5Us will be added, as well as a couple 1U R4s and R1s
- Novelties: awaiting GMK's response regarding any issues with them.
- Community: Nautilus will use Mito's RMK logo.
- Spacebars: no changes
I will join this, definitely. Howerver, IMO, I think you should add some extra blank 1.5 keycaps for Ergodox or a full blank set.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/0AA3kxy.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6qFdOwY.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fTN9OXX.png)
I see the base kit is described as supporting the 65% layout of the Tada68/Saber68, but I don't see the R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn used in the default layout on those keyboards. Can that be added?
Just use the R2 PgUp/R3 PgDn. There are no real standard when it comes to 68% keyboards and you can just remap the keys anyway...
I see the base kit is described as supporting the 65% layout of the Tada68/Saber68, but I don't see the R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn used in the default layout on those keyboards. Can that be added?
Just use the R2 PgUp/R3 PgDn. There are no real standard when it comes to 68% keyboards and you can just remap the keys anyway...
I realize that there's no real standard for 65%/68% layouts, but if you look at the description of the base kit in the original post in this thread, it explicitly lists the White Fox, Tada68, and Saber68 as being covered by the base kit, but the base kit is missing the R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn, which are used in the default layouts of all three of those keyboards. I'd like to use the default layout, and I'd like to use the correct profile on every key. Would you claim that this base kit covers a Dvorak? It's the same issue -- the keys are there but in the wrong profile.
I see the base kit is described as supporting the 65% layout of the Tada68/Saber68, but I don't see the R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn used in the default layout on those keyboards. Can that be added?
Just use the R2 PgUp/R3 PgDn. There are no real standard when it comes to 68% keyboards and you can just remap the keys anyway...
I realize that there's no real standard for 65%/68% layouts, but if you look at the description of the base kit in the original post in this thread, it explicitly lists the White Fox, Tada68, and Saber68 as being covered by the base kit, but the base kit is missing the R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn, which are used in the default layouts of all three of those keyboards. I'd like to use the default layout, and I'd like to use the correct profile on every key. Would you claim that this base kit covers a Dvorak? It's the same issue -- the keys are there but in the wrong profile.
Those three keyboards are programmable, so technically they are still covered. And you cannot compare Dvorak, which can be applied to any form factor, with the placement of 2 modifier keycaps for a particular format (65%/75%).
Thanks for a definitive answer. I'll just pass on this one in favor of the other sets that do fully cover this layout.
Haven't had chance to read the whole thread but will there be a 7u space bar option?
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@Zambumon Any chance of getting an EU proxy for this. MykeyboardsEU is hosting the EU proxy for GMK Solarized Dark and at those prices it is very hard to say no. https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/group-buys/gmk-solarized-dark_21/
You could try and get MykeyboardsEU to proxy their own Massdrop order like is usually done on Taobao- but I don't think there's really much of a financial benefit.
I would expect the EU order count to rise significantly if moving forward, there would be more proxies and ISO kits included in the base kits (like some of the upcoming ones)You could try and get MykeyboardsEU to proxy their own Massdrop order like is usually done on Taobao- but I don't think there's really much of a financial benefit.
Yea there's not a big monetary difference at all, I mean some countries have pretty heavy import tax (not VAT) but it'd be like a 20€ save or something at most. The biggest deal would be expediting the shipments along if anything because some countries' customs take forever to process international packages. In Portugal for example it takes between 4 to 8 weeks which is awful, if mykeyboards would take care of all of that then it'd probably shave off a couple weeks off of the wait time, but that's hardly worth all the effort, imo.
Plus EU orders as opposed to the Asian ones probably comprise a smaller portion - if the ISO numbers are anything to go by, adding a few extras for people that use ANSI-US (like myself) or alternative layouts, I'd imagine they'd be maybe 10% of total orders maximum. Asian orders usually pull in like 20-25%; someone's made up stats for this before for an older drop but I can't remember who/where honestly.
I mean, almost every modern GMK drop that I know of has basic ISO support. The specialty kits that allow for more ISO compatibility always struggle or don't make MOQ. The vast, vast majority of the purchases though are obviously for ANSI users, and naturally so ANSI folks don't want to pay more to subsidize ISO- which I don't think is fair.
Just look at SA carbon, there are 1700 orders right now for Alphas, and 66 orders for ISO kits. 66, that's not even 4%.
Are there less international orders because people don't want to pay shipping/import fees?
Or are there less because there isn't really a market?
I'd love to see the data on how many orders end up going international so we could truly understand this better.
Is it it the chicken or the egg? I personally feel if the demand was truly there for ISO that Massdrop / someone else would jump in or pop up to accommodate.
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Yup, if Massdrop had a european proxy, those stats would look much different
Apparently Tai-Hao made a copy of this set! Right before it goes on GB!
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2501 (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2501)
Apparently Tai-Hao made a copy of this set! Right before it goes on GB!
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2501
Tai-Hao made a copy...
Apparently Tai-Hao made a copy of this set! Right before it goes on GB!
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2501 (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2501)
That's not really a copy of this set, that's a copy of danger zone
http://imgur.com/uChIaQH (http://imgur.com/uChIaQH)
Apparently Tai-Hao made a copy of this set! Right before it goes on GB!
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2501
That's not really a copy of this set, that's a copy of danger zone
http://imgur.com/uChIaQH
Apparently Tai-Hao made a copy of this set! Right before it goes on GB!
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2501
That's not really a copy of this set, that's a copy of danger zone
http://imgur.com/uChIaQH
Apparently Tai-Hao made a copy of this set! Right before it goes on GB!
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2501 (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2501)
That's not really a copy of this set, that's a copy of danger zone
http://imgur.com/uChIaQH (http://imgur.com/uChIaQH)
What about this :))Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hxsNZ39.jpg)
What about this...
If it were me 2-3 years ago, I'd probably say. "Plastic is plastic...go for this because its cheaper and you get it faster".
Within the enthusiast community I don't think anyone would choose this over GMK. However it's a good way to get new people into the hobby!
I've never actually used an Ergodox. Are the keycaps different for the left and right sides? Or do they only differ based on row profile (i.e. R1, R2, R3, R4)? The render shows a vertical R2 keycap for open braces/open bracket ("{", "[") on both the right-hand and left-hand sides, but unless the right-hand and left-hand sides have different stem patterns it seems like that would be a duplicate keycap which could potentially have a different label on it.
This looks terrible :DApparently Tai-Hao made a copy of this set! Right before it goes on GB!
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2501
That's not really a copy of this set, that's a copy of danger zone
http://imgur.com/uChIaQH
What about this :))Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hxsNZ39.jpg)
Probably a dumb question, but will this come in those cool trays like the other GMK sets?
Can carbon end already so we can get on board??? I've been waiting foreverrrr x__x
Can carbon end already so we can get on board??? I've been waiting foreverrrr x__x
Can carbon end already so we can get on board??? I've been waiting foreverrrr x__x
Seriously, Carbon is going on for aaages! O.o
But tbh, in regards to budget, I'm kinda glad it's like that. :)
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Can carbon end already so we can get on board??? I've been waiting foreverrrr x__x
Can carbon end already so we can get on board??? I've been waiting foreverrrr x__xCan carbon end already so we can get on board??? I've been waiting foreverrrr x__x
Seriously, Carbon is going on for aaages! O.o
But tbh, in regards to budget, I'm kinda glad it's like that. :)
Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant TapatalkCan carbon end already so we can get on board??? I've been waiting foreverrrr x__xShow Image(https://media.tenor.com/images/e7574749cd687b4bf56331c43385eddb/tenor.gif)
:)
Probably a dumb question, but will this come in those cool trays like the other GMK sets?
Of course. And they'll be packed in a custom banderole. :thumb:
Probably a dumb question, but will this come in those cool trays like the other GMK sets?
Of course. And they'll be packed in a custom banderole. :thumb:
a custom what?
Ive never purchased GMK keys so pardon the ignorance
The price for the NORDE-Kit is fantastic!I'm really happy too with how the NORDE kit has been priced.
If I'm being honest I have no idea what the enter novelty is supposed to be though :D
The price for the NORDE-Kit is fantastic!I'm really happy too with how the NORDE kit has been priced.
If I'm being honest I have no idea what the enter novelty is supposed to be though :D
The enter key is the Nautilus II from the League of extraordinary gentlemen, I thought it was a cool addition and tried my best to match the original one.Show Image(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/75/5a/1c/755a1ce5dae986b98719cd662a08765c.jpg)
What is the reasoning for keeping certain keycaps in the ErgoDox/Planck kit concave? I don't see any reason why they should stay concave when they can be made convex as they should be without any extra cost.
Why can't convex keycaps have legends?What is the reasoning for keeping certain keycaps in the ErgoDox/Planck kit concave? I don't see any reason why they should stay concave when they can be made convex as they should be without any extra cost.
Convex keycaps don't have legends and are intended to be used as spacebars by Planck users, the rest of the keycaps have to be concave, as it allows them to get legends.
Why can't convex keycaps have legends?What is the reasoning for keeping certain keycaps in the ErgoDox/Planck kit concave? I don't see any reason why they should stay concave when they can be made convex as they should be without any extra cost.
Convex keycaps don't have legends and are intended to be used as spacebars by Planck users, the rest of the keycaps have to be concave, as it allows them to get legends.
Sooo, definitely no barred F and J keys?
Would be sad to see this set without them as I definitely prefer bars to scoops for orientation.
Maybe at 1000 orders, pretty please?
Sooo, definitely no barred F and J keys?
Would be sad to see this set without them as I definitely prefer bars to scoops for orientation.
Maybe at 1000 orders, pretty please?
No barred F/J keys is really a letdown.
Sooo, definitely no barred F and J keys?
Would be sad to see this set without them as I definitely prefer bars to scoops for orientation.
Maybe at 1000 orders, pretty please?
No barred F/J keys is really a letdown.
Oh I didn't even notice... +1.
Still going to buy but I'd rather have bars than learn something new :p
never really used scoops before.
Sooo, definitely no barred F and J keys?
Would be sad to see this set without them as I definitely prefer bars to scoops for orientation.
Maybe at 1000 orders, pretty please?
No barred F/J keys is really a letdown.
Oh I didn't even notice... +1.
Still going to buy but I'd rather have bars than learn something new :p
never really used scoops before.
Same situation here. Apparently, there can also be light bleeding issues when GMKs scooped caps are paired with switch LEDs (althought that might affect light-alpha sets like Plum or Carbon more than a dark set like Nautilus).
The light leaks were produced in Triumph Adler due to a change in the composition of the plastic used (Source (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74258.0)) and I haven't spotted a single keyset that has had them after it.Show Image(https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8025/28705792234_a943d10136_k.jpg)Show Image(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/12/6b/52/126b524c0c28bf17b1d2a8522a57c4be.jpg)Show Image(https://mechanicalkeyboardinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/RS96-GMK-Retro.jpg)Show Image(https://mechanicalkeyboardinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/GoN-NerD60-Skidata.jpg)
This doesn't apply to most of the legends in the kit, since they have to be made new anyway. No one's ever going to need concave Lower and Raise keycaps for example and only a legend mold for convex keycaps would be needed.Why can't convex keycaps have legends?What is the reasoning for keeping certain keycaps in the ErgoDox/Planck kit concave? I don't see any reason why they should stay concave when they can be made convex as they should be without any extra cost.
Convex keycaps don't have legends and are intended to be used as spacebars by Planck users, the rest of the keycaps have to be concave, as it allows them to get legends.
My naive guess is that they would requite separate molds, and therefore more expensive.
Does this drop today ? June 30th?
It's live!Awesome!
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-zambumon-gmk-nautilus-custom-keycap-set
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Are the tiny short spacebars in the spacebar kit in actually spacebar profile or are they just blank shift keys?Those marked R4C are convex.
It's live!Awesome!
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-zambumon-gmk-nautilus-custom-keycap-set (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-zambumon-gmk-nautilus-custom-keycap-set)
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But the wait is worth it... Right? Right?!?It's live!Awesome!
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-zambumon-gmk-nautilus-custom-keycap-set (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-zambumon-gmk-nautilus-custom-keycap-set)
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Brilliant, another fine GMK order to buy into :thumb: .
Just placed my order through and now the waiting begins, yet again.
I guess that's a total for all sets purchased, so not just base sets
Is this the most successful as of now?
I guess that's a total for all sets purchased, so not just base sets
Correct, the live total is every kit. The price table graphic is updated every 24-72 hrs:
(Attachment Link)Is this the most successful as of now?
Pretty sure /dev/tty, Carbon and Yuri got very large sales on the first day, but it's to be expected, early rush before the sales slow right down, then a spike toward then end.
Yuri's sales were split because there was an Asian proxy, anyone know if there are any proxies operating for this buy or is it all Massdrop for Nautilus?
It's up on Tao-Bao ya.
percentage of nordic/international kits sold
The final tally for Yuri (which wasn't updated after the update ~6 hrs from the end) shows 935 base kits and only 40 international, although we do know it all tipped and there were extra sales allowed after the official drop end (to extra time fore the K-Type drop buyers who wanted both.)
percentage of nordic/international kits sold
Yuri is the one we're most interested in for similar price GMK sets running a few weeks apart.
The final tally for Yuri (which wasn't updated after the update ~6 hrs from the end) shows 935 base kits and only 40 international, although we do know it all tipped and there were extra sales allowed after the official drop end (to give extra time for the K-Type drop buyers who wanted both.)
Forty NorDe kits on the first day, no matter what the percentage is, is a good start to me.
Forty NorDe kits on the first day, no matter what the percentage is, is a good start to me.
I see some of the discussion on Massdrop has become monumentally stupid, drama and petty attacks over nothing :rolleyes:
Anyway the Norde kit is doing nicely, though there is a little grumbling about the row one ^ key with ° that is not in the kit.
not sure you should say that publicly, you're going to get bombarded with requests for every key possible now :))
The only key that would be added would be the one you have mentioned: ^ °
Forty NorDe kits on the first day, no matter what the percentage is, is a good start to me.
Yes it is, and I'm very surprised on how strong this kit is going on the first day specially when NORDE kits have usually rough starts. Let's see how the kit does over the next couple days. :thumb:
But the wait is worth it... Right? Right?!?
As someone with two sets of gmk mixed on my home keyboard, I totally agree. Was just joking around :)But the wait is worth it... Right? Right?!?
For GMK, it's the Wait that always makes you excited for the brilliant results, which they never fail in producing.
This is the difference between waiting for cheapo sh1te from Tai-Hao or some chinese knock-offs, bought over Flebay. It can never compare to the quality and excellence in Cherry Profiled key-caps done correctly.
ALL of GMKs key-sets fit every keyboard made on Earth, simply because they have been doing it for a very long time using decent machinery (plastic injection).
Zambumon - the eater of words.not sure you should say that publicly, you're going to get bombarded with requests for every key possible now :))
The only key that would be added would be the one you have mentioned: ^ °
The only key that would be added would be the one you have mentioned: ^ °
I was going to suggest trying to squeeze a single 1U blank or 1U novelty into the base kit - I thought a 1U novelty might be better because there are none in the novelty pack, and it's always a popular option for all users to have the Esc key replaced with a novelty,
However the actual key people are asking for in the Norde kit would certainly be better. Germany only benefit from this tweak to the kit?
The only key that would be added would be the one you have mentioned: ^ °
I was going to suggest trying to squeeze a single 1U blank or 1U novelty into the base kit - I thought a 1U novelty might be better because there are none in the novelty pack, and it's always a popular option for all users to have the Esc key replaced with a novelty,
However the actual key people are asking for in the Norde kit would certainly be better. Germany only benefit from this tweak to the kit?
As an ISO user I feel that every kit should include a single R1 blank key for the annoying key next to 1, that is different is every layout and just annoys everyone.
I agree, any key or a blank are the same if they don't match your keyboard layout, but at least a key with legends would match the colour scheme better.As an ISO user I feel that every kit should include a single R1 blank key for the annoying key next to 1, that is different is every layout and just annoys everyone.
A blank key next to "1" would just look weird and out of place.
Zambumon - the eater of words.not sure you should say that publicly, you're going to get bombarded with requests for every key possible now :))
The only key that would be added would be the one you have mentioned: ^ °
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-zambumon-gmk-nautilus-custom-keycap-set/talk/1741381
Anyway, while you are at it, please consider adding support for some nordic languages to the NORde kit as well. Nordic countries are like 60% of NOR_DE anyway. :))
Regarding the confusion about the norde kit in the discussion over massdrop, maybe adding some disclaimer about the norde kit content on the main page could help. I know that the keys are very much visible, but people are used to having full norde support in norde sets and thus some note about this not being the case is something to consider.
Zambumon - the eater of words.not sure you should say that publicly, you're going to get bombarded with requests for every key possible now :))
The only key that would be added would be the one you have mentioned: ^ °
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-zambumon-gmk-nautilus-custom-keycap-set/talk/1741381
Anyway, while you are at it, please consider adding support for some nordic languages to the NORde kit as well. Nordic countries are like 60% of NOR_DE anyway. :))
Regarding the confusion about the norde kit in the discussion over massdrop, maybe adding some disclaimer about the norde kit content on the main page could help. I know that the keys are very much visible, but people are used to having full norde support in norde sets and thus some note about this not being the case is something to consider.
Second that. I'm using Swedish ISO for the layout, but in this case I'll go for a 60% so I won't lament the passing of the §˝ key. Had I been going for a 75%/TKL/full size build, I would probably have thought once or twice about what layout to use so a disclaimer would've been helpful in that case.
Also, on Swedish layouts, the extra symbol on R1 4 is actually the currency symbol ¤. $ is accessed with AltGr. Always thought this weird. It feels like ¤ is a fragment from a time long ago (it's a replacement symbol for when you can't type the correct currency cymbol, if I understand it correctly - I've never used it). It was used in BASIC on the ancient ABC80, a Swedish computer manufactured between the 70s and 80s. Removing it and replacing it with $ feels like a rational decision. :thumb:
A suggestion, and a question, though. I noticed that there are in total five keys to cover Nordic layouts. I don't know if it's possible with the printing technique used by GMK, but these are usually rationalized down to only three keys on Scandinavian keyboards: R3 ÄĆŘ and ÖŘĆ (Swedish and Norwegian layouts use the same placement of the keys, but Danish switch them). If it's possible to print the keys with three characters on the same key, two keys could be "saved" and perhaps used for other missing keys? (As a reference, have a look at the Nordic layout of the Vortex Pok3r RGB here: https://www.maxgaming.se/gaming-tangentbord/pok3r-rgb-mechanical-keyboard-mx-brown (https://www.maxgaming.se/gaming-tangentbord/pok3r-rgb-mechanical-keyboard-mx-brown))
Perhaps this has been discussed elsewhere, if so, I apologize for bringing it up again.
Will the child kits be produced even if they don't meet 100 orders? Mainly thinking about the Norde kit.
Will the child kits be produced even if they don't meet 100 orders? Mainly thinking about the Norde kit.
Will the child kits be produced even if they don't meet 100 orders? Mainly thinking about the Norde kit.
I have no need of a Norde kit. Ordered one for solidarity. If nothing else I can use it to confuse my coworkers who can't touch type.
Will the child kits be produced even if they don't meet 100 orders? Mainly thinking about the Norde kit.
I have no need of a Norde kit. Ordered one for solidarity. If nothing else I can use it to confuse my coworkers who can't touch type.
I miss the ^° in the norde kit and i don't want to buy the community kit for one other R1 cap.Zambumon said, that the ^° key is coming to the Norde set!
edit: the Nautilus Keycap Set is really nice !
I miss the ^° in the norde kit and i don't want to buy the community kit for one other R1 cap.Zambumon said, that the ^° key is coming to the Norde set!
edit: the Nautilus Keycap Set is really nice !
Dang this thread has been busy. I just noticed that the base kit (nor any of the kits) doesn't come with barred F and J keys, which is a huge bummer considering the base kit comes with a lot of arguably less useful/more niche keys. I guess I will just have to live with it, but I thought a lot of people liked barred F and J. Not too many scoop fans. And this is coming from a person who can type without looking with no problem, but re-centers their hands by using the bars. The scoops just aren't deep enough to be easily found without spending a considerable amount of time "feeling" the key to figure out if it's the right one, in my opinion. That's the only thing missing from an otherwise legendary set. I will just have to live with it.
Barred f and j are pretty standard nowadays. Don't know why they are not in the set.
Cutting prices in addition to the huge exposure massdrop brings in tow with the volume discounts seems a little overkill, but it is what it is.
Someone mentioned 55g domes bottom out at 80g so these are 55g copies (75g + 5g from the spring). Makes a lot more sense now.
The domes labeled Realforce look dark like the 55g domes though and have 10 nickels on top, which would be 50g (and the HHKB dome has 8 i.e. 40g). So I think these latest J Cups are indeed just heavier.
So this is what's interesting about the JDomes.
Clearly, the bottom out force is signifcantly higher, I feel that the domes actuation force is close to the Realforce domes. There is a nice big bump in the beginning, which I really like.
I sent final review samples to Gajible, and Quakemz, who may or may not post some final feedback on the domes, but I highly encourage that they do.
I'm really excited, and we're almost there.
Please fill out the form if you haven't.
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Lastly, we're still trying to mock up the BKE dome, and make sure that it's good to go. I hope we get it done very soon and follow up after this GB is over with.
I'm going to quote a 1 month turnaround time for this GB, as the manufacturer has been extremely timely with their current turnaround times.
Any chances of this key being added to the Norde kit?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/DmoUU5c.png)
Base kit's 1500 unit price point has been added: $99.99Sooner or later we'll need a quote for 2.000 sets.
Someone mentioned 55g domes bottom out at 80g so these are 55g copies (75g + 5g from the spring). Makes a lot more sense now.
The domes labeled Realforce look dark like the 55g domes though and have 10 nickels on top, which would be 50g (and the HHKB dome has 8 i.e. 40g). So I think these latest J Cups are indeed just heavier.
So this is what's interesting about the JDomes.
Clearly, the bottom out force is signifcantly higher, I feel that the domes actuation force is close to the Realforce domes. There is a nice big bump in the beginning, which I really like.
I sent final review samples to Gajible, and Quakemz, who may or may not post some final feedback on the domes, but I highly encourage that they do.
I'm really excited, and we're almost there.
Please fill out the form if you haven't.
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Lastly, we're still trying to mock up the BKE dome, and make sure that it's good to go. I hope we get it done very soon and follow up after this GB is over with.
I'm going to quote a 1 month turnaround time for this GB, as the manufacturer has been extremely timely with their current turnaround times.Any chances of this key being added to the Norde kit?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/DmoUU5c.png)
The ^ one was added exceptionally as GMK offered it with no additional charge. Additional keys would suposse a change on the kit's price.
Now the cool stuff:
Base kit's 1500 unit price point has been added: $99.99
can we get an update on the numbers, zambu? md seems to lag by a day or two..
Base kit's 1500 unit price point has been added: $99.99Sooner or later we'll need a quote for 2.000 sets.
Do people really prefer scooped over barred f/j???
Do people really prefer scooped over barred f/j???
Do people really prefer scooped over barred f/j???
Do people really prefer scooped over barred f/j???
I never used scooped until GMK, but I've gotten used to it. I thought I would have hated it, but it's kind of nice.I had the very same experience, now I like dished keys much better than barred ones.
how much would i have to pay at german customs?
Another german here that could answer my question? If i would buy this, how much would i have to pay at german customs? I know:
22-150 € => Only 19% "Einfuhrumsatzsteuer"
> 150 € => Plus "Zoll" .. What percentage is that for keycaps?
... Einfuhrumsatzersatzsteuer ...
Anyone know how close we are to the $99 mark?1142/1500 Based on MD.
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Anyone know how close we are to the $99 mark?1142/1500 Based on MD.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170712/739944d1bee5d2f0136dff76240d539a.jpg)
Will there be an extra scooped J in the vim set in the novelties kit?
Guess I'll take the plunge (ha) and get it despite the lack of muh bars
Will there be an extra scooped J in the vim set in the novelties kit?
1500+ base kits! Congrats! Is this the highest selling gmk kit ever now? Wish the spacebar kit has another drop point but no biggie.
GMK-MD venture did not do well with extremely large production batches
IIRC the biggest problem with GMK TA was that they were shipped in insufficient packaging -- just the old GMK trays in a box. This led to keys coming loose and being scratched. The issues with improper colour mixing were comparatively uncommon, and that would be the real issue about a custom colour
IIRC the biggest problem with GMK TA was that they were shipped in insufficient packaging -- just the old GMK trays in a box. This led to keys coming loose and being scratched. The issues with improper colour mixing were comparatively uncommon, and that would be the real issue about a custom colour
TA was the first GMK trays. Before that, they were shipped in bags. Was also the first set with pantone colors.
IIRC the biggest problem with GMK TA was that they were shipped in insufficient packaging -- just the old GMK trays in a box. This led to keys coming loose and being scratched. The issues with improper colour mixing were comparatively uncommon, and that would be the real issue about a custom colour
TA was the first GMK trays. Before that, they were shipped in bags. Was also the first set with pantone colors.
I was under the impression the trays had been redesigned since TA, have they not?
The base kit price has come down enough that I added a novelty kit to my order. I want those 4 yellow arrow keys!!
The base kit price has come down enough that I added a novelty kit to my order. I want those 4 yellow arrow keys!!
Hey they added another space drop. $1 off is $1!
Oooooooo:
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/mechcables-nautilus-custom-sleeved-usb-cable
More navy things
Bad news: it's just a render and not real.
Good news: it's Zambumon's design and he hopes to make it real.
By the look of my bill, I'd say NorDe made it.
I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for the info.By the look of my bill, I'd say NorDe made it.
That's not how it works... They would refund you if it doesn't go through.
By the look of my bill, I'd say NorDe made it.
That's not how it works... They would refund you if it doesn't go through. But given this set sold like at least 2x the 40 sets sold in Yuri, and that set went through, you shouldn't have anything to worry about. But you won't know until they submit payment to GMK and THEN process any refunds.
By the look of my bill, I'd say NorDe made it.
That's not how it works... They would refund you if it doesn't go through. But given this set sold like at least 2x the 40 sets sold in Yuri, and that set went through, you shouldn't have anything to worry about. But you won't know until they submit payment to GMK and THEN process any refunds.
Do they just refund the Norde kit, or can I cancel the whole thing in that case? The rest of the set doesn't have any use to me if I don't get the Norde kit.
Congratulations on the successful group buy Zambumon!
Do you have the final order numbers? I find it kind of annoying, that Massdrop never updates them, when a drop finishes.
I somehow managed to miss the massdrop...
I somehow managed to miss the massdrop...
I somehow managed to miss the massdrop...
Already 177 requests on Massdrop to run it again!
I somehow managed to miss the massdrop...
Already 177 requests on Massdrop to run it again!
I somehow managed to miss the massdrop...
Already 177 requests on Massdrop to run it again!
As if requests on MD actually means anything at all (spoiler: it doesn't)
NORDE kit reached over 100 orders.
Just got a confirmation from GMK & Yanbo: all kits will be manufactured!
I'm getting mildly excited!Holy **** this looks way better than I hopedShow Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/AfYtlDnPQPiUEtF8rw5F_IMG_2046.JPG?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=max&w=1300&h=752&dpr=1&q=80)
I'm getting mildly excited!Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/AfYtlDnPQPiUEtF8rw5F_IMG_2046.JPG?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=max&w=1300&h=752&dpr=1&q=80)
One key difference w/ the Ducky is those are double-shot PBT vs. ABS... I think one of the first sets using a new process (from them, Tai-Hao already did PBT double-shot). https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=3051
Although I thought a lot of those PBT double-shot processes used a different material for the inner shot (POM?)
most pbt doubleshots are pbt/pom
leopold's are pbt/pbt, but that's all i know of
Nice to see that shipping notification - early for a change as well. Now just waiting for the MiraSE to show up that its going on. :thumb:
Nice to see that shipping notification - early for a change as well. Now just waiting for the MiraSE to show up that its going on. :thumb:
I see you have great taste, as I am doing the same thing. Very excited for both!
Nice to see that shipping notification - early for a change as well. Now just waiting for the MiraSE to show up that its going on. :thumb:
I see you have great taste, as I am doing the same thing. Very excited for both!
Blue anodizing?! we're going to be twins'ies
Your Massdrop x Zambumon GMK Nautilus Custom Keycap Set has shipped
Is there any way that I can buy novelty kits?
I just bought base+spacebars and after seeing the real images, I am regretting that I did not buy the novelties :(
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/eWjSBvI.jpg)
Got my set today and put it on my AMJ40. Absolutely stunning set of keycaps.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171222/bbc7c4ac71e1627de72d69752ee619f4.jpg)
Got Nautilus this week and put it on a new TINA-C build. Love the way the alphas turned out, the colors are perfect.
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MineShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/fyED9dk.gif)
I want to know about sizes of few keys and/or if they are in base kit:
1. R1 1.5U Backspace
2. R2 1U "\ |" key
3. R3 1.75U Enter
4. R4 1.25U Shift
Yes, that is my intention.
Yes, that is my intention.
Maybe too soon to ask, but in which form will it come back?
Someone told me that you never run the same design in the same profile twice, so will you consider SA for the 2020 run? I know there's a few SA Nautilus out there already, but that was more like an experimental and grounded project.