Post by: janglad on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:04:58
It’s time to bring back one of the classics of this community, GMK 9009. When Dixie and I launched the GB for GMK 9009 R2 back in 2017, it broke records. 2 years and a lot of rerun requests later, we figured the time had come to go back to our roots.
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Design
Inspiration
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As some of you may know GMK 9009 is inspired by the Cherry board designed for Reuters. This board featured the now-famous combination of classic beige with some muted, pastel accents. Over the years this colourway has gained a lot of popularity in this hobby for its classic looks and its great versatility. It really is hard to find a case colour that doesn’t go well with this set. GMK 9009 R3, of course, keeps those timeless looks and adds some new features to it.
Updates
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9009 R3 adds some features previous rounds haven't had. Most notably, a R5 bottom row. This bottom row creates a nicer and more full sculpt which gives the pleasant vintage aesthetic 9009 is all about. We've also added a lot of compatibility and fixed some legends, all of which is described in detail below.
Kit design
Standard
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This kit supports all the most popular custom keyboard layouts from standard TKLs to 65%, WKL bottom rows, HHKBs and more.
Obscure
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The obscure kit adds support for a wide variety of 40% keyboards, including ortholinear ones. Included are the necessary modifiers, but also spacebars. This kit also includes a second b key for split keyboards.
Numbers
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The number kits adds support for boards including a numpad, like a full-size 104 or 1800.
Addition
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The addition kit adds keys for an OSX focussed bottom row, 60%s with arrows through the 2u shift, 660 layouts with the extra 2.25u shift, full ISO UK support and some options for different legends in the 65% and caps lock area.
Modern
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Want to add a modern look to your set? Or maybe you’re just a fan of the uniform look having only icons on the modifiers gives you? Then this kit is for you! It features icon modifiers for all of the bottom row, escape and 1.75 control while also adding a more modern interpretation of the tab key and caps lock. This kit features a more modern R4 bottom row.
Aesthetic
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This kit is made for those of you who want to add a splash of colour to your boards, whether that is with coloured spacebars or with an indicator LED under your lock keys.
Reworked legends
Modifiers
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Dixie and I have been working on cleaning up the mod legends for GMK for a long time now. Cherry legends have some weird inconsistent alignments, if you use icon mods with bottom row text mods like R2 9009 you will notice that the Tab, Enter, Backspace and bottom row legends are left-centred aligned. However, the Shift and Caps Lock legends are top-left aligned. Same outcome if you use all icon mods, like in GMK Modern Dolch. This is especially annoying when you use a 1.75u shift with an fn key next to it since one legend will be top-aligned and the other centred.
Because of this, we have decided to make new legends to create a more uniform look among the modifier keys. We also have taken the above changes and applied them to the arrows, to continue to make everything as consistent as possible across your keyboard.
40’s / Ortho Enter Awkward Arrows
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If you compare the Enter arrow on a full-sized enter and the smaller sized Enters, you will notice the smaller keys are a little awkward. The vertical line on the enter icon, goes almost all the way to the top edge of the surface of the cap, unlike its full-sized counterpart. We are going to fix these legends to be more proportional when sized down compared to the full-sized.
The group buy
The group buy for this will launch on September first. More pricing info will follow later, but the standard kit will be sold for $99.99 from day one (or your local currency/tax included equivalent). No waiting until 500 MOQ is hit! The set will be sold by these amazing vendors:
- DailyClack for Oceania
- Dixiemech for the US
- Mykeyboard for Europe
- iLumkb for Asia
Render gallery
Bauer by Dixiemech
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910 RE by TGR
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Dharma by me and Ye_Cole (soon™)
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No2 Rev 1 by Keycult
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Kotai by /u/stewiedk97
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M60-A by RAMA
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U80 by RAMA
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Xeno by IonKB
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Special thanks to
- All vendors for working with me to bring this project to reality, and especially Dixiemech for all the help as always :)
- Hineybush for helping me out with R5 files
- Lightning for convincing us to go for a R5 bottom row
- Otani's squirrels
If you're interested in this set please fill out this form, it really helps us out a lot. Thank you!! :) (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdo8Ndd2ff9DRLPpwN_1W7JFnE0nJxMY7aGyCVS2HB77-jgYQ/viewform)
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Post by: quaddepos on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:05:57
Post by: janglad on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:06:07
Post by: fcoury on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:07:46
However the form has what seems to be an error: the "what kits would you buy" should be multiple options and not a single option question I think.
Post by: janglad on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:08:25
This is great news, super in!
However the form has what seems to be an error: the "what kits would you buy" should be multiple options and not a single option question I think.
Ooh wow, thank you for noticing. Fixed!!!!
Post by: fcoury on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:08:43
However the form has what seems to be an error: the "what kits would you buy" should be multiple options and not a single option question I think.
Seems like this is fixed now, so nvm.
Post by: OtherAndrew on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:09:43
Post by: DetectiveNio on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:10:08
Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
Post by: ZyBeR on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:11:14
Post by: glubazoid on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:12:44
R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5R5
Edit: Any chance on a R0 kit?
Post by: Captain Shwah on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:13:54
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:13:59
R5
R5
R5
R5
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:14:32
Post by: bard on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:17:28
Post by: janglad on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:17:49
Looks very cool, but not all areas of the world are covered in your list of vendors. I'm in South America. So where should I order from when this runs?
There currently aren't any South America based vendors I know off. However, Dixiemech can definitely ship there!
Post by: janglad on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:18:23
a vim kit maybe? anyone?
If there's enough demand we can definitely add one, however, we already have a lot of kits as is and all of them of course need to hit MOQ.
Post by: sever on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:18:59
Post by: hineybush on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:19:50
Post by: xondat on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:20:38
Post by: janglad on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:23:11
Good pairing with Korean Beige!
;)
Post by: janglad on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:23:25
Any plans for a colevrak kit?
Not really, they rarely make MOQ.
Post by: otanishock on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:23:41
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Otani's squirrels :-*
Post by: sl70309 on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:39:26
Post by: janglad on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:41:00
could you post a render for all icon mod?
The M60-A render has just that :)
Post by: sl70309 on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:43:53
Post by: Emir on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:45:33
Post by: demonahz on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:51:12
Post by: nickheller on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:53:02
Quote
Most notably, a R5 bottom row. This bottom row creates a nicer and more full sculpt which gives the pleasant vintage aesthetic 9009 is all about.
Original 9009 boards have R4 bottom row tho
Post by: kakiharaOne on Wed, 17 July 2019, 17:54:14
Post by: Emir on Wed, 17 July 2019, 18:10:09
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Post by: sam278 on Wed, 17 July 2019, 18:15:39
Even if I had to buy another kit to get the old icon mod alignment I would buy it.
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Wed, 17 July 2019, 18:15:41
Looks very cool, but not all areas of the world are covered in your list of vendors. I'm in South America. So where should I order from when this runs?
There currently aren't any South America based vendors I know off. However, Dixiemech can definitely ship there!
Thanks for the reply!! I'll order from them, then. :) I already own EPBT 9009, but I've always lusted over the "original" GMK version.
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Post by: qriousgabriel on Wed, 17 July 2019, 18:15:43
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Wed, 17 July 2019, 18:16:26
a vim kit maybe? anyone?
Yesssss, please! +1 for a Vim kit.
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Post by: nephlock on Wed, 17 July 2019, 18:16:33
Post by: Emir on Wed, 17 July 2019, 18:19:49
Was really excited about this, but then dissappointed by the new icon mod alignment. This would be insta-buy for me if you kept the original icon mods.
Even if I had to buy another kit to get the old icon mod alignment I would buy it.
well, there is actually... https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101096.0
:))
Post by: guzzi on Wed, 17 July 2019, 18:22:28
Post by: sam278 on Wed, 17 July 2019, 18:23:19
Was really excited about this, but then dissappointed by the new icon mod alignment. This would be insta-buy for me if you kept the original icon mods.
Even if I had to buy another kit to get the old icon mod alignment I would buy it.
well, there is actually... https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101096.0
:))
Totally forgot about that gb, thanks for reminding me about it! I'll keep that in mind.
Post by: shensmobile on Wed, 17 July 2019, 18:24:53
Post by: kema on Wed, 17 July 2019, 18:31:48
Post by: cepate11 on Wed, 17 July 2019, 18:32:09
Post by: DukeEsquire on Wed, 17 July 2019, 18:45:27
Good pairing with Korean Beige!
I just ordered the Korean Beige to go with this!
Post by: equalunique on Wed, 17 July 2019, 18:49:59
EDIT: Really, how much do you want for an L9 colevrak kit?
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Post by: ArchDill on Wed, 17 July 2019, 18:50:28
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 17 July 2019, 18:54:00
Nice! I would LOVE to see some sub legends! I would be 100% for that!
Korean beige on NK. Picked up a set cause of this
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 17 July 2019, 18:55:12
Please revise the ISO support. I'd rather see it in the base kit, but I'll understand if you choose to keep it in the "addition" kit. However, one error needs (*) to be fixed.
ISO Enter is fine, 1.25U left Shift is fine, R4 \| (backslash/pipe) is fine... R3 #~ (hash/tilde) is not. It ought to be, instead, an \| R3 backslash/pipe keycap - that way, support for US ISO (and the ANSISO and ISANSI hybrids) will be complete.
The #~ key is part of the UK national layout, and makes little sense to include that one but fail to include the rest of that set (namely: `¬ 2" 3£ '@ #~ ; plus \|, which is included anyway).
(*) IMHO. YMMV. WDIKAA.
Post by: ArchDill on Wed, 17 July 2019, 18:57:31
Nice! I would LOVE to see some sub legends! I would be 100% for that!
Korean beige on NK. Picked up a set cause of this
I already have a set coming for my current GMK 9009 set haha
Would like to have a
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 17 July 2019, 18:59:13
I dream of having a keyboard with no legends on mod keys (except for F1..F12, obviously). This would be a great chance to standardize the icons generally used - look at Ellipse's F77 project for a great example of this.
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 17 July 2019, 19:00:50
I already have a set coming
:thumb:
Would like to have a Korean option.
wat
Post by: ArchDill on Wed, 17 July 2019, 19:02:41
I already have a set coming
:thumb:Would like to have a Korean option.
wat
My b. Meant JP option. Editing
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 17 July 2019, 19:14:28
Could the base kit be separated into "alphas only" and "mods only" halves? So, for example, if I wanted the... Tartessian runic alphas instead of the regular US English layout, I could buy the the "alphas kit" for that one and the "mods kit" and not have a bunch of unused alphas.
I know it is NOT a viable option for kits with "relatively low" sales numbers, but could it be arranged for a larger amount (like Oblivion was, and like this R3 is expected to be)?
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 17 July 2019, 19:16:14
Another half-nutty idea: given that there's already the expectation of high sales AND some international versions (Korean) have already been asked about...
Could the base kit be separated into "alphas only" and "mods only" halves? So, for example, if I wanted the... Tartessian runic alphas instead of the regular US English layout, I could buy the the "alphas kit" for that one and the "mods kit" and not have a bunch of unused alphas.
I know it is NOT a viable option for kits with "relatively low" sales numbers, but could it be arranged for a larger amount (like Oblivion was, and like this R3 is expected to be)?
It would drive the cost per kit up quite significantly. Not just that, a lot of people have been expecting an R3 to get their first full kit of 9009.
Aside, what the heck are Tartessian Runic alphas?
Post by: romevi on Wed, 17 July 2019, 19:21:54
Post by: xondat on Wed, 17 July 2019, 19:24:57
Nice! I would LOVE to see some sub legends! I would be 100% for that!
Korean beige on NK. Picked up a set cause of this
I already have a set coming for my current GMK 9009 set haha
Would like to have aKoreanJP option. With the popularity of Serika, I am surprised that JP subs are not an option. I have the Topre EPBT JP set on my hhkb and I love it.
God bless
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 17 July 2019, 19:26:09
Another half-nutty idea: given that there's already the expectation of high sales AND some international versions (Korean) have already been asked about...
Could the base kit be separated into "alphas only" and "mods only" halves? So, for example, if I wanted the... Tartessian runic alphas instead of the regular US English layout, I could buy the the "alphas kit" for that one and the "mods kit" and not have a bunch of unused alphas.
I know it is NOT a viable option for kits with "relatively low" sales numbers, but could it be arranged for a larger amount (like Oblivion was, and like this R3 is expected to be)?
It would drive the cost per kit up quite significantly. Not just that, a lot of people have been expecting an R3 to get their first full kit of 9009.
That's kind of the point. I always hear "this would drive up the cost per kit", but I have no idea about actual numbers on this. What if the price increase for this option for this particular GB turns out to be... (let me get a number out of my ass here)... say, 6 bucks? Would that qualify as too much, for the added flexibility it would imply?
Aside, what the heck are Tartessian Runic alphas?
It was just an example of "some other" non-English alphas set, to avoid using real ones (Korean, Japanese, etc.) in the strictly theoretical question.
(where was my set of Shavian keycaps, anyway? :cool: )
Post by: Delirious on Wed, 17 July 2019, 19:30:50
Post by: GarrettSucks on Wed, 17 July 2019, 19:34:26
Another half-nutty idea: given that there's already the expectation of high sales AND some international versions (Korean) have already been asked about...
Could the base kit be separated into "alphas only" and "mods only" halves? So, for example, if I wanted the... Tartessian runic alphas instead of the regular US English layout, I could buy the the "alphas kit" for that one and the "mods kit" and not have a bunch of unused alphas.
I know it is NOT a viable option for kits with "relatively low" sales numbers, but could it be arranged for a larger amount (like Oblivion was, and like this R3 is expected to be)?
It would drive the cost per kit up quite significantly. Not just that, a lot of people have been expecting an R3 to get their first full kit of 9009.
That's kind of the point. I always hear "this would drive up the cost per kit", but I have no idea about actual numbers on this. What if the price increase for this option for this particular GB turns out to be... (let me get a number out of my ass here)... say, 6 bucks? Would that qualify as too much, for the added flexibility it would imply?Aside, what the heck are Tartessian Runic alphas?
It is a substantial amount usually when you split, because that means even more sorting has to be done. That is what costs so much. Sorting all these individual kits since GMK actually puts them in trays and doesn't just throw them in bags. To get a full base kit, with every little thing separated would be WAY more than just having what we have here.
Post by: TheAutoManCan on Wed, 17 July 2019, 19:37:47
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 17 July 2019, 19:39:53
Any chance of a Hydro child kit?
I think those keys are included in the Muted option.
Post by: otanishock on Wed, 17 July 2019, 19:48:54
A helluva lot more than 6 bucks. To give you an idea, a separate alpha kit with number row goes for around $60. A separate TKL mods kit goes for about $80. A full standard 145 keys GMK base kit goes for about $130. By chopping up, you pay $10 more and you lose a numpad. That's how bad it is.
That's kind of the point. I always hear "this would drive up the cost per kit", but I have no idea about actual numbers on this. What if the price increase for this option for this particular GB turns out to be... (let me get a number out of my ass here)... say, 6 bucks?
Post by: mrpetrov on Wed, 17 July 2019, 19:50:17
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 17 July 2019, 19:58:45
A helluva lot more than 6 bucks. To give you an idea, a separate alpha kit with number row goes for around $60. A separate TKL mods kit goes for about $80. A full standard 145 keys GMK base kit goes for about $130. By chopping up, you pay $10 more and you lose a numpad. That's how bad it is.
That's kind of the point. I always hear "this would drive up the cost per kit", but I have no idea about actual numbers on this. What if the price increase for this option for this particular GB turns out to be... (let me get a number out of my ass here)... say, 6 bucks?
Well, that is indeed a substantial difference. Thanks!
One day, when sales numbers have sustainedly gone high enough, we'll be able to separate base kits into alphas and mods. One day...
Post by: architones on Wed, 17 July 2019, 19:59:46
Post by: PoohGom on Wed, 17 July 2019, 20:13:04
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Post by: rkarp on Wed, 17 July 2019, 20:17:12
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 17 July 2019, 20:28:26
I see a minivan backspace, but no minivan enter key in the 40s? i.e. 1.5u R3. Would also like to see R4 1.75 Lock key, though that being less necessary.
I see a 1.25U R3 Enter key and that makes ME happy. :-D
Now, if I could have a 1.25U R1 Backtab key, and 1.75U R1 Backspace key and a 1.75U (stepped) R2 Tab key... I would be happier (but I don't expect this to actually happen). :cool:
Post by: Macmutant on Wed, 17 July 2019, 21:22:38
Post by: jihadu on Wed, 17 July 2019, 21:29:43
Post by: appaboy on Wed, 17 July 2019, 21:31:34
Other than lacking accent ISO enters , this looks like fire
I assume you mean just in the base set, theere is some in the additionals kit
Post by: jihadu on Wed, 17 July 2019, 21:35:51
There's only a Black on Beige enter , not accent (aka Red and Green) enters in that kitOther than lacking accent ISO enters , this looks like fire
I assume you mean just in the base set, theere is some in the additionals kit
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 17 July 2019, 21:36:21
Other than lacking accent ISO enters , this looks like fire
I assume you mean just in the base set, theere is some in the additionals kit
There's a single ISO Enter key in the additionals kit. UP is probably talking about ISO Enter keys in red and green.
Post by: dallman5 on Wed, 17 July 2019, 21:42:10
Post by: asury on Wed, 17 July 2019, 21:47:29
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Post by: Zilleon on Wed, 17 July 2019, 22:40:28
Post by: despairsray on Wed, 17 July 2019, 23:07:52
Post by: GarrettSucks on Wed, 17 July 2019, 23:08:31
I see a minivan backspace, but no minivan enter key in the 40s? i.e. 1.5u R3. Would also like to see R4 1.75 Lock key, though that being less necessary.
Thank you for pointing this out. I will add this to our list.
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Wed, 17 July 2019, 23:30:07
I am also not in love with the reworked legends. But it's not a dealbreaker or anything like that.
It's 9009 though, so I'm sure it will do well.
Post by: spctr13 on Wed, 17 July 2019, 23:35:58
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Post by: Abec13 on Thu, 18 July 2019, 00:02:52
I see a minivan backspace, but no minivan enter key in the 40s? i.e. 1.5u R3. Would also like to see R4 1.75 Lock key, though that being less necessary.
Thank you for pointing this out. I will add this to our list.
I'm reviewing over this and think that it might be a dimple backspace to match the 125 enter leaving the minivan entirely absent which is likely intentional. So, nevermind. If you did add Minivan support I would be delighted but not heartbroken if that's not something that is under consideration.
Post by: Sycomore on Thu, 18 July 2019, 00:17:26
Post by: tuilokee on Thu, 18 July 2019, 00:19:32
and I think Addition kit can stay in Standard Kit.
Post by: escher on Thu, 18 July 2019, 00:22:28
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Post by: andrewregal on Thu, 18 July 2019, 00:33:54
Post by: spring_forward on Thu, 18 July 2019, 01:01:28
Post by: OracleKev on Thu, 18 July 2019, 01:23:14
i dont like the new legend alignment otherwise yes
+1
R5 is really nice
Post by: OtherAndrew on Thu, 18 July 2019, 01:52:12
i dont like the new legend alignment otherwise yes
+1
R5 is really nice
the new mod legend alignment is cursed
Post by: nickaster1 on Thu, 18 July 2019, 02:01:11
Post by: EMC Labs on Thu, 18 July 2019, 02:03:49
Post by: fleeceman on Thu, 18 July 2019, 03:38:24
Edit: You also have not included any green or red accent enter so you may as well just remove ISO altogether.
Edit 2: Just seen there is a 2nd B key for Alice users (all 10 of them), but no full ISO UK support. What a joke.
Post by: lewisflude on Thu, 18 July 2019, 03:45:01
Post by: harlekein on Thu, 18 July 2019, 03:47:46
This kit also includes a second b key for split keyboards
Can we let this meme die already? It's only the alice and knock offs who use this, but even then, the amount of people who would use both B's are probably less than five. Every oddity key always has to be defended, but this one is included by default. It's borderline offensive.
Post by: boboking5 on Thu, 18 July 2019, 03:56:48
Post by: SBJ on Thu, 18 July 2019, 04:24:44
Post by: Poesjuh on Thu, 18 July 2019, 05:25:03
My R2 got cracked from box switches so I'm definitely in
Ah, yours as well? :( Mine too :P But, not to an extent that I can't use it anymore luckily :)
Feedback on the R5 / open question to 40% users. How will R5 be on a 40%? My first thought was "that's going to hurt your thumbs like a mad man". I'm no experienced 40% user so I'm not the right person to have an opinion about this, just something I'm wondering and putting on the table.
Post by: hyuni8925 on Thu, 18 July 2019, 05:28:54
Add a lock shape to the stamp of the caps lock.
Post by: janglad on Thu, 18 July 2019, 06:23:31
Post by: vicissitude on Thu, 18 July 2019, 07:37:18
When will GB possibly start?
Post by: dhb82 on Thu, 18 July 2019, 07:38:01
Post by: phinix on Thu, 18 July 2019, 07:49:57
:eek:
Post by: Khers on Thu, 18 July 2019, 08:04:21
Post by: depletedvespene on Thu, 18 July 2019, 08:13:23
Just a general thing to the people who don't like the current ISO support or other parts of the kits/set in general. Please fill in the form, this is an Interest Check and we're very open to feedback :) A lot of things can still change before the GB so fear not ;)
I did that yesterday. :D
Also, for those not in the know, there was a rather fruitful discussion of what "ISO support" ought to mean, so if you don't completely understand what it entails and what it does NOT entail, please see the thread Topic: On the availability of ISO in GB (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101263.0;all) and this post within the thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101263.msg2779819#msg2779819) for what the suggestion for a compromise for ISO support is.
EDIT: omitted a word.
Post by: Laiain on Thu, 18 July 2019, 08:15:57
Post by: scoopbb on Thu, 18 July 2019, 09:27:00
Post by: equalunique on Thu, 18 July 2019, 09:44:45
Feedback on the R5 / open question to 40% users. How will R5 be on a 40%? My first thought was "that's going to hurt your thumbs like a mad man". I'm no experienced 40% user so I'm not the right person to have an opinion about this, just something I'm wondering and putting on the table.
I welcome R5 on a planck, as long as the thumb keys are R4C. Unfortunately, the Raise/Lower keys won't be, but I'll be using the following for spacebar anyway, which mitigates the problem for me:
1u R4C + 2u R4C + 2u R4C +1u R4C
I'll be suggesting an additional pair of 1u R4C keys for the Obscure kit, for users who prefer grid-layout.
EDIT: Ok, I just realized that the Obscure kit also has only one 2u R4C key. That's not great either... :/ The previous 9009 ortho kits actually came with 6x 1u R4C and 3x 2u R4C keys.
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Post by: MikeTheTiger on Thu, 18 July 2019, 11:36:32
Post by: baoduy23 on Thu, 18 July 2019, 12:02:32
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Thu, 18 July 2019, 12:03:29
Post by: Zacharius on Thu, 18 July 2019, 12:27:48
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Post by: jihadu on Thu, 18 July 2019, 12:58:55
janglad, hope you can include an option for people who already own a previous version of the set that would like to get those R5 keys!!!There's a R5 compatibility kit in the works for WoB/ Classic Beige somewhere on GH rn
Post by: lightsout714 on Thu, 18 July 2019, 13:29:29
Post by: ddnomad on Thu, 18 July 2019, 13:33:12
a vim kit maybe? anyone?
If there's enough demand we can definitely add one, however, we already have a lot of kits as is and all of them of course need to hit MOQ.
Please, I’d love to have a vim kit
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 18 July 2019, 13:50:42
Post by: tentboy on Thu, 18 July 2019, 14:05:44
Post by: hamilton on Thu, 18 July 2019, 14:38:08
No chance of an Ergodox kit? :(
Might be unlikely, but I would love an ergo kit
Post by: MyManMart on Thu, 18 July 2019, 14:40:14
Post by: equalunique on Thu, 18 July 2019, 15:15:24
Me 3No chance of an Ergodox kit? :(
Might be unlikely, but I would love an ergo kit
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Post by: killuchen on Thu, 18 July 2019, 15:22:46
Post by: GarrettSucks on Thu, 18 July 2019, 15:33:14
Main thing I see is the most common 65% layout is [Home, PgUp, PgDn, End] but you have moved the R4 end to the additions kit so although it mentions 65% coverage you will have a lot of people being forced into another kit for 1 cap if they want correct legends.
Thanks for bringing this up. Added to list of things to review! :)
Post by: Zacharius on Thu, 18 July 2019, 15:34:39
VIM Kit would be so amazing!a vim kit maybe? anyone?
If there's enough demand we can definitely add one, however, we already have a lot of kits as is and all of them of course need to hit MOQ.
Please, I’d love to have a vim kit
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Post by: Pieminister on Thu, 18 July 2019, 16:10:21
Post by: Solotov on Thu, 18 July 2019, 19:00:04
Post by: bnhw on Thu, 18 July 2019, 20:09:30
Is there any chance of R0 top-row? Either in the base kit or an additional kit.
Post by: appaboy on Thu, 18 July 2019, 20:23:34
Post by: Delirious on Thu, 18 July 2019, 21:08:56
Post by: The_Royal on Thu, 18 July 2019, 21:29:58
Could there be any room for Accent Colored Enter Keys In the 40's Kit too.
I know it drives the price up...but I can assure you, us 40% users will pay heavily for that little detail :)
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Thu, 18 July 2019, 22:39:28
Im so excited you guys are bringing this back!
Could there be any room for Accent Colored Enter Keys In the 40's Kit too.
I know it drives the price up...but I can assure you, us 40% users will pay heavily for that little detail :)
+1
Post by: lamenthe on Fri, 19 July 2019, 02:17:51
Post by: thornkin on Fri, 19 July 2019, 02:24:43
Post by: adxlk on Fri, 19 July 2019, 02:29:27
Post by: pan on Fri, 19 July 2019, 02:57:31
Post by: Wetherbee on Fri, 19 July 2019, 05:04:05
Post by: OracleKev on Fri, 19 July 2019, 05:45:42
I don't mind R0, but don't prefer it.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Fri, 19 July 2019, 09:50:58
Post by: Solotov on Fri, 19 July 2019, 09:54:32
Post by: GarrettSucks on Fri, 19 July 2019, 12:02:58
Im so excited you guys are bringing this back!
Could there be any room for Accent Colored Enter Keys In the 40's Kit too.
I know it drives the price up...but I can assure you, us 40% users will pay heavily for that little detail :)
The reason we don't, is because there are so many enter keys, and all of them would need three keys each. It would end up being like 15 enter keys in that kit. Its just too much money. Were just worried about giving compatibility, in general.
Post by: scoopbb on Fri, 19 July 2019, 12:23:35
Im so excited you guys are bringing this back!
Could there be any room for Accent Colored Enter Keys In the 40's Kit too.
I know it drives the price up...but I can assure you, us 40% users will pay heavily for that little detail :)
The reason we don't, is because there are so many enter keys, and all of them would need three keys each. It would end up being like 15 enter keys in that kit. Its just too much money. Were just worried about giving compatibility, in general.
at least r4 accents would be nice.
Post by: steezkeez on Fri, 19 July 2019, 12:37:12
Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 19 July 2019, 12:37:28
Im so excited you guys are bringing this back!
Could there be any room for Accent Colored Enter Keys In the 40's Kit too.
I know it drives the price up...but I can assure you, us 40% users will pay heavily for that little detail :)
The reason we don't, is because there are so many enter keys, and all of them would need three keys each. It would end up being like 15 enter keys in that kit. Its just too much money. Were just worried about giving compatibility, in general.
Forgive me, for today is Friday and my coffee isn't strong enough. Would an "accents" kit, composed of all the accented keys (except R1 Esc and ANSI Enter) be feasible?
Post by: Poesjuh on Fri, 19 July 2019, 13:06:45
Post by: jihadu on Fri, 19 July 2019, 13:14:24
Post by: dorf on Fri, 19 July 2019, 13:17:01
janglad, hope you can include an option for people who already own a previous version of the set that would like to get those R5 keys!!!There's a R5 compatibility kit in the works for WoB/ Classic Beige somewhere on GH rn
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101069.0
Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 19 July 2019, 20:07:47
Post by: chriszhu on Fri, 19 July 2019, 22:50:23
Post by: RETURNISO on Sat, 20 July 2019, 06:01:18
Just a general thing to the people who don't like the current ISO support or other parts of the kits/set in general. Please fill in the form, this is an Interest Check and we're very open to feedback :) A lot of things can still change before the GB so fear not ;)
Very awesome, great updates! But we need that ISO compat back in the base kit please :thumb:
Edit. Very nice to see the handbag has finally been worn down :p
Post by: ZG2047 on Sat, 20 July 2019, 06:15:01
Post by: EMC Labs on Sat, 20 July 2019, 06:49:18
Oof my wallet
I don't agree in many situations but I do agree with you for this one.
Post by: thornkin on Sat, 20 July 2019, 11:44:25
R0 is gonna bring the price upWhy would R0 increase the price? It did for Carbon because they had to make a lot of molds, but those now exist. Is there something else that would make it more expensive than R1?
Laser ALT sporting red Sky Pandas
Post by: ideus on Sun, 21 July 2019, 06:57:21
Post by: OracleKev on Sun, 21 July 2019, 10:36:04
R0 is gonna bring the price upWhy would R0 increase the price? It did for Carbon because they had to make a lot of molds, but those now exist. Is there something else that would make it more expensive than R1?
Laser ALT sporting red Sky Pandas
Supposedly they cost more. Don't know why. Note some molds existed prior to Carbon R2 - GMK Iris had them.
Anyway, R0 would be ergonomically challenging for some people. R0 is pretty rare among R5 vintage boards.
Post by: hansikhouse on Mon, 22 July 2019, 13:07:08
Post by: korrelate on Mon, 22 July 2019, 14:03:31
Thank you for the clean numpad! I love it when the alternate legends are removed!
ISSUE #1:
For the sake of specificity, I would love to see the actual profile row numbers of the keys appear on the renders. I'm particularly worried about the insert key (but because of the way this is laid out many other keys also have ambiguous profiles):
the standard kit shows two different insert keys but the pink one looks to be R1 while the beige appears to be R2.
If I'm a 100%/TKL layout user (Hint: I run 100%) this is a kick in the teeth: I really want the choice of an R1 beige insert key (can you tell I like the colors but I don't want THAT color on THAT key) but it looks like I'm stuck with pink at this location.
REQUEST #1:
Can we please get some abbrevations running on this layout?
- 'Ctrl' in 1.5u and 1.25u variants instead of 'Control'
- R1 'Ins' and R2 'Del' instead of R1 'Insert' and R2 'Delete'
Unabbreviated legends just seem so unnecessary most of the time.
Cheers & Thank You for running this!
K
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 22 July 2019, 14:31:13
Yes, yes, yes: I would love to see this happen.
Thank you for the clean numpad! I love it when the alternate legends are removed!
ISSUE #1:
For the sake of specificity, I would love to see the actual profile row numbers of the keys appear on the renders. I'm particularly worried about the insert key (but because of the way this is laid out many other keys also have ambiguous profiles):
the standard kit shows two different insert keys but the pink one looks to be R1 while the beige appears to be R2.
If I'm a 100%/TKL layout user (Hint: I run 100%) this is a kick in the teeth: I really want the choice of an R1 beige insert key (can you tell I like the colors but I don't want THAT color on THAT key) but it looks like I'm stuck with pink at this location.
REQUEST #1:
Can we please get some abbrevations running on this layout?
- 'Ctrl' in 1.5u and 1.25u variants instead of 'Control'
- R1 'Ins' and R2 'Del' instead of R1 'Insert' and R2 'Delete'
Unabbreviated legends just seem so unnecessary most of the time.
Cheers & Thank You for running this!
K
lemme toss my 2 cents in
Control on 1.5u and 1.25u is better
Same with insert/delete, the full text fits the vintage feel of the set
also both of those Insert keys are R1
Post by: phinix on Mon, 22 July 2019, 14:34:37
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Post by: ideus on Mon, 22 July 2019, 17:52:18
Post by: Zacharius on Mon, 22 July 2019, 18:40:21
One more time: Will Norde and VIM caps be included?Man I hope so. Hopefully the runner jumps in to confirm/deny eventually.
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Post by: vicissitude on Mon, 22 July 2019, 18:51:33
Please add them to the base or make more to be another kit to buy.
Definitely looks special.
Post by: equalunique on Mon, 22 July 2019, 19:23:23
At this point I'm buying the base kit. If some kind of ErgoDox mods and/or ErgoDox-compatible "assembly" kit is added, then I'll purchase more. Would do the same for Colevrak too.
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Post by: ideus on Tue, 23 July 2019, 11:30:05
I agree - full name, like Control, looks better on caps - super retro look :thumb:
Is there any other way to put a legend on Control than Control?
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 23 July 2019, 11:43:28
Is there any other way to put a legend on Control than Control?
Ctrl. But we're seeing so many GMK sets that use Control these days, that I don't blame you for forgetting about Ctrl
Anyway, my vote is Control on both 1.25u and 1.5u since that's what the original G80-9009 board used.
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Post by: jihadu on Tue, 23 July 2019, 11:58:35
I'm a sucker for them
Post by: surfortuna on Tue, 23 July 2019, 12:07:53
Post by: ideus on Tue, 23 July 2019, 12:09:58
Is there any other way to put a legend on Control than Control?
Ctrl. But we're seeing so many GMK sets that use Control these days, that I don't blame you for forgetting about CtrlShow Image(https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji14.png)
Anyway, my vote is Control on both 1.25u and 1.5u since that's what the original G80-9009 board used.
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I failed my sarcasm to look like it, sorry. Ctrl. is for the peasants, Control is for kings. We are kings, aren´t we? ;)
Post by: depletedvespene on Tue, 23 July 2019, 12:20:43
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I failed my sarcasm to look like it, sorry. Ctrl. is for the peasants, Control is for kings. We are kings, aren´t we? ;)
Speak for yourself, kiddo. This is a republic. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ideus on Tue, 23 July 2019, 12:31:25
noob question: how do the colors here compare to epbt 9009? the renders look much brighter than my epbt set. is this a limitation of pbt in general - duller colors?
Can you tell if this kb has ABS and/or PBT caps? If you think so, which ones are what?
(https://i.imgur.com/YQYu59t.jpg)
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 23 July 2019, 12:47:08
I failed my sarcasm to look like it, sorry. Ctrl. is for the peasants, Control is for kings. We are kings, aren´t we? ;)
I wasn't quite sure if that was sarcasm or not, but I decided to reply anyway
Ctrl works well on some sets imo.
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Post by: surfortuna on Tue, 23 July 2019, 13:50:51
noob question: how do the colors here compare to epbt 9009? the renders look much brighter than my epbt set. is this a limitation of pbt in general - duller colors?
Can you tell if this kb has ABS and/or PBT caps? If you think so, which ones are what?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/YQYu59t.jpg)
Based only on color, I can't tell. I guess the vim keys look slightly darker and are not shiny, but it may just be an optical illusion with the green legends. It is difficult to see the difference. Is that your point?
Looking at the renders again, they do look close. It's mainly this one in particular, the alphas look really white and the enter key looks like a brighter red:
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/1563393659914-3JFV7SVE33M4NR4352PM/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPTrHXgsMrSIMwe6YW3w1AZ7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0k5fwC0WRNFJBIXiBeNI5fKTrY37saURwPBw8fO2esROAxn-RKSrlQamlL27g22X2A/Xeno_Angle.jpg?format=1500w)
maybe, i'm just crazy ;D
Post by: ideus on Tue, 23 July 2019, 15:09:24
noob question: how do the colors here compare to epbt 9009? the renders look much brighter than my epbt set. is this a limitation of pbt in general - duller colors?
Can you tell if this kb has ABS and/or PBT caps? If you think so, which ones are what?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/YQYu59t.jpg)
Based only on color, I can't tell. I guess the vim keys look slightly darker and are not shiny, but it may just be an optical illusion with the green legends. It is difficult to see the difference. Is that your point?
Looking at the renders again, they do look close. It's mainly this one in particular, the alphas look really white and the enter key looks like a brighter red:Show Image(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/1563393659914-3JFV7SVE33M4NR4352PM/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPTrHXgsMrSIMwe6YW3w1AZ7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0k5fwC0WRNFJBIXiBeNI5fKTrY37saURwPBw8fO2esROAxn-RKSrlQamlL27g22X2A/Xeno_Angle.jpg?format=1500w)
maybe, i'm just crazy ;D
That is my point exactly. My 50 kb is a salad of OG Cherry and PBT caps and they match quite well. Though, it is not totally fare comparison for ePBT because those caps are new and my OG's are already worn off, but it makes the point that they look pretty close. However, the main difference is not the color but the shape: PBT caps are a bit more conical and their tops a bit smaller than Cherry ABS caps; but, nothing that can be seen easily. Hope that helps with your decision.
Post by: surfortuna on Tue, 23 July 2019, 17:05:45
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That is my point exactly. My 50 kb is a salad of OG Cherry and PBT caps and they match quite well. Though, it is not totally fare comparison for ePBT because those caps are new and my OG's are already worn off, but it makes the point that they look pretty close. However, the main difference is not the color but the shape: PBT caps are a bit more conical and their tops a bit smaller than Cherry ABS caps; but, nothing that can be seen easily. Hope that helps with your decision.
It does help, thanks for the info!
Post by: HungerMechanic on Tue, 23 July 2019, 19:54:19
Mind you, GMK ABS feels better on certain switches than thick PBT does.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 23 July 2019, 20:17:49
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Post by: MacSurfy on Wed, 24 July 2019, 04:07:05
Cool to see this set come back once again!
I have some concerns regarding the arrow placement. I was scratching my head when I saw the explanation of the old down arrows ending in the middle of the cap. And the new ones being centered on the middle point. None of these things seem to be correct. The old legends actually go further down than the middle, and the new ones are not centered in the middle but also sitting further down. So the idea of it being centered is not really what is currently happening.
The second issue is the weight distribution of the symbol (the arrow) it self. They can simply not just be centered, but they need to be optically centered to not seem off (because of its odd shape).
In the new revised version it seems to me that the arrow is sitting too low, thus making it feel really bottom heavy and not centered at all (to me at least).
I made a quick sketch to show what I mean. My revised version is the one on the far right.
(https://i.imgur.com/vA5bCQX.jpg)
See this as constructive feedback, and it's just my opinion .. happy to hear your thoughts.
Cheers!
Post by: gnunin on Wed, 24 July 2019, 05:36:31
Post by: janglad on Wed, 24 July 2019, 05:48:13
Hi all,
Cool to see this set come back once again!
I have some concerns regarding the arrow placement. I was scratching my head when I saw the explanation of the old down arrows ending in the middle of the cap. And the new ones being centered on the middle point. None of these things seem to be correct. The old legends actually go further down than the middle, and the new ones are not centered in the middle but also sitting further down. So the idea of it being centered is not really what is currently happening.
The second issue is the weight distribution of the symbol (the arrow) it self. They can simply not just be centered, but they need to be optically centered to not seem off (because of its odd shape).
In the new revised version it seems to me that the arrow is sitting too low, thus making it feel really bottom heavy and not centered at all (to me at least).
I made a quick sketch to show what I mean. My revised version is the one on the far right.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vA5bCQX.jpg)
See this as constructive feedback, and it's just my opinion .. happy to hear your thoughts.
Cheers!
Good point, we're looking into this!
Post by: break on Wed, 24 July 2019, 09:07:50
Hi all,
Cool to see this set come back once again!
I have some concerns regarding the arrow placement. I was scratching my head when I saw the explanation of the old down arrows ending in the middle of the cap. And the new ones being centered on the middle point. None of these things seem to be correct. The old legends actually go further down than the middle, and the new ones are not centered in the middle but also sitting further down. So the idea of it being centered is not really what is currently happening.
The second issue is the weight distribution of the symbol (the arrow) it self. They can simply not just be centered, but they need to be optically centered to not seem off (because of its odd shape).
In the new revised version it seems to me that the arrow is sitting too low, thus making it feel really bottom heavy and not centered at all (to me at least).
I made a quick sketch to show what I mean. My revised version is the one on the far right.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vA5bCQX.jpg)
See this as constructive feedback, and it's just my opinion .. happy to hear your thoughts.
Cheers!
Wow, once you see this you can't unsee it!
Post by: GarrettSucks on Wed, 24 July 2019, 11:14:26
Hi all,
Cool to see this set come back once again!
I have some concerns regarding the arrow placement. I was scratching my head when I saw the explanation of the old down arrows ending in the middle of the cap. And the new ones being centered on the middle point. None of these things seem to be correct. The old legends actually go further down than the middle, and the new ones are not centered in the middle but also sitting further down. So the idea of it being centered is not really what is currently happening.
The second issue is the weight distribution of the symbol (the arrow) it self. They can simply not just be centered, but they need to be optically centered to not seem off (because of its odd shape).
In the new revised version it seems to me that the arrow is sitting too low, thus making it feel really bottom heavy and not centered at all (to me at least).
I made a quick sketch to show what I mean. My revised version is the one on the far right.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vA5bCQX.jpg)
See this as constructive feedback, and it's just my opinion .. happy to hear your thoughts.
Cheers!
First of all, thank you for putting in the effort to help this set be the best it can be.
This mockup was simply meant to be a basic, visual representation of the changes; not a schematic for the changes. I never expected it be taken as such. I do not have the official vectors from GMK on the arrows, so these are just manually hand made icons, that definitely are not to spec. As you can see, the simple cap models are not even to spec to a real cap, just enough to demonstrate. We all know that just explaining something with words is not enough. So I don't want people to be scared when looking at your analysis of these mockups and think this is 100% what they will look like, down to the mm. We just needed to show the difference in the top left vs the centered legends.
With that said...
Your comment did make me go back and look at the mockup to see if I could better represent them and I did find that the legends are poorly centered (as you pointed out) therefore creating the problems you have discussed. I have corrected the alignment issues on all the caps for a better representation of what the changes will be. But once again, these are not meant to be seen as an exact end result.
Also, another thing you mentioned is our (my) explanation of the legends ending in the middle of the cap being incorrect. You are correct in me being incorrect. The legends do go over the center line, so it would probably be better to just say they are Top Left Aligned. So I admit that was an incorrect way of explaining it. However, it does not change the goal and end result of what we want to accomplish. But I appreciate you calling it out so we can correct it.
Updated mockup is below
(https://imgur.com/rdbJeXR.jpg)
Post by: MacSurfy on Wed, 24 July 2019, 11:23:36
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 24 July 2019, 13:43:03
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But I appreciate you calling it out so we can correct it.
Updated mockup is below
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GarrettSucks, let me be the first to tell you that you seem to suck less than what you give yourself credit for. :thumb:
I look forward to seeing a fully updated draft with the rest of the feedback tended to. :)
Post by: Tequila_Heineken on Wed, 24 July 2019, 14:49:33
Post by: Hydrolithium on Wed, 24 July 2019, 18:38:34
Post by: romevi on Wed, 24 July 2019, 23:35:24
Post by: OtherAndrew on Thu, 25 July 2019, 00:17:05
Okay, but will the Caps Lock purse return?
mans here asking the real questions
Post by: kgorin on Thu, 25 July 2019, 08:35:49
Is it possible to get a 'command' icon (⌘) while we're at it considering 'control' and 'option' are already there?
(https://i.imgur.com/dN108uQ.jpg)
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 25 July 2019, 08:51:01
NeverOkay, but will the Caps Lock purse return?
mans here asking the real questions
Post by: Captain Shwah on Thu, 25 July 2019, 09:56:05
Am I tripping or the option icon in Modern set is upside down?
That icon is Alt, not meant to be Mac Option.
Post by: idlemao on Thu, 25 July 2019, 12:02:55
Post by: neon_tom on Thu, 25 July 2019, 12:53:51
Am I tripping or the option icon in Modern set is upside down?
Is it possible to get a 'command' icon (⌘) while we're at it considering 'control' and 'option' are already there?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/dN108uQ.jpg)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt_key
Post by: kgorin on Thu, 25 July 2019, 14:08:33
That icon is Alt, not meant to be Mac Option.Alt is functionally equivalent to Option on mac os
Forgive my ignorance, I just have never seen that icon used in windows context of any kind, same as the Ctrl "arrow up" icon from the same kit. On the contrary in mac os ctrl, alt (option), command icons are used everywhere
Post by: jedidood on Thu, 25 July 2019, 15:19:58
Post by: romevi on Thu, 25 July 2019, 17:04:40
Oh my.... I can't believe this is coming back... Take my money!!!
Okay, I can take it!
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 25 July 2019, 17:41:32
Alt is functionally equivalent to Option on mac os
Forgive my ignorance, I just have never seen that icon used in windows context of any kind, same as the Ctrl "arrow up" icon from the same kit. On the contrary in mac os ctrl, alt (option), command icons are used everywhere
https://unicode-table.com/en/2387/
https://unicode-table.com/en/2325/
The two icons are distinct.
GMK's Alt icon is kind of a compromise between the two: it's missing the arrow like the Mac Option icon, but it's flipped around like the standard Alt icon.
Post by: Zacharius on Thu, 25 July 2019, 17:42:36
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Post by: bobgr8 on Fri, 26 July 2019, 03:38:51
The pricing
Pricing is TBD. But I can tell you this: it'll be cheap, and it'll be cheap from day 1 ;)
Render gallery
what is "cheap" for a gmk?
Would it be cheaper than $120 for ePBT currency on kbdfans?
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 26 July 2019, 04:30:16
How much was the base set for the last group buy?
I don't know how much it was, but I can 100% say it was more expensive than this one is going to be because there were way more keys included in the core set. Jan mentioned this one would cheap from the get-go
Post by: kgorin on Fri, 26 July 2019, 04:31:26
https://unicode-table.com/en/2387/Yeah, I understand they are distinct. It's just that I find frustrating the need to find a middle ground between the icon that's actually used and the one that's barely used. We can leave it at that
https://unicode-table.com/en/2325/
The two icons are distinct.
GMK's Alt icon is kind of a compromise between the two: it's missing the arrow like the Mac Option icon, but it's flipped around like the standard Alt icon.
The set is a great classic nonetheless
Post by: OracleKev on Fri, 26 July 2019, 05:43:55
Guess I can lean on the Modern kit and source R5 arrow keys from vintage sets. :p
Just wondering if others are thinking about doing the same thing.
Post by: hansikhouse on Fri, 26 July 2019, 08:59:02
How much was the base set for the last group buy?
I don't know how much it was, but I can 100% say it was more expensive than this one is going to be because there were way more keys included in the core set. Jan mentioned this one would cheap from the get-go
Prices on their last GB can be found here - https://dixiemech.com/gmk9009, base going for $125 at 500 MOQ. Hoping it'll be at this or less!
Anyone own and/or compare this to the ePBT set on KBDFans? I'm pretty sure I want this to be my first GMK set, just wanted to see if anyone had input on this, especially with color vibrancy comparisons.
Post by: janglad on Fri, 26 July 2019, 09:48:28
Post by: jihadu on Fri, 26 July 2019, 10:14:58
Post by: rockydbull on Fri, 26 July 2019, 10:41:43
The pricing
Pricing is TBD. But I can tell you this: it'll be cheap, and it'll be cheap from day 1 ;)
Render gallery
what is "cheap" for a gmk?
Would it be cheaper than $120 for ePBT currency on kbdfans?
Looking at the base kit and peering into my crystal ball (no guarantee of any accuracy) I would say somewhere from $99-$109 for the base kit. GMK will always be more expensive on a per key basis than epbt (for lots of reasons), but the entry point will likely be lower than the ebpt 9009 set.
Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 26 July 2019, 11:51:32
Looking forward to it! I will finally be able to build a classic looking board with an ivan enter
What is an "ivan enter"?
Post by: jihadu on Fri, 26 July 2019, 12:28:29
It's a old layout available on the GH60 PCB and the GH60 satan. It's essentially a split ansi enter (instead of a full 2.25 u enter key , you use a 1u and a 1.25u key). It's pretty memey and that's the only reason I want to build a board with it. Like this(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190726/4bc095bf68950bf95f36856770439cb7.jpg)Looking forward to it! I will finally be able to build a classic looking board with an ivan enter
What is an "ivan enter"?
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 26 July 2019, 12:33:34
It's a old layout available on the GH60 PCB and the GH60 satan. It's essentially a split ansi enter (instead of a full 2.25 u enter key , you use a 1u and a 1.25u key). It's pretty memey and that's the only reason I want to build a board with it. Like thisLooking forward to it! I will finally be able to build a classic looking board with an ivan enter
What is an "ivan enter"?Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190726/4bc095bf68950bf95f36856770439cb7.jpg)
So it has the shape of an ISO return key, sort of, but it's still ansi? What do you map that added key to?
Post by: jihadu on Fri, 26 July 2019, 12:33:41
Post by: jihadu on Fri, 26 July 2019, 12:34:21
No clue. I have never used it beforeIt's a old layout available on the GH60 PCB and the GH60 satan. It's essentially a split ansi enter (instead of a full 2.25 u enter key , you use a 1u and a 1.25u key). It's pretty memey and that's the only reason I want to build a board with it. Like thisLooking forward to it! I will finally be able to build a classic looking board with an ivan enter
What is an "ivan enter"?Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190726/4bc095bf68950bf95f36856770439cb7.jpg)
So it has the shape of an ISO return key, sort of, but it's still ansi? What do you map that added key to?
Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 26 July 2019, 12:54:05
It's a old layout available on the GH60 PCB and the GH60 satan. It's essentially a split ansi enter (instead of a full 2.25 u enter key , you use a 1u and a 1.25u key). It's pretty memey and that's the only reason I want to build a board with it. Like thisLooking forward to it! I will finally be able to build a classic looking board with an ivan enter
What is an "ivan enter"?Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190726/4bc095bf68950bf95f36856770439cb7.jpg)
Oh, it's a TIE: an R3 1.25U key, that comprises the area common to ANSI and ISO Enter keys, freeing up the other side (be it the 1U key in R3 or the 1.5U key in R2 for other stuff).
This was common on some old IBM terminal keyboards (look up the IBM 4704 keyboards: F107, F77, F62 "kishsaver" and the pingmasters, too).
When Ellipse's F77 is out, I'm going TIE on it, too.
Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 26 July 2019, 12:55:06
Fun fact: it's named after former community member IvanIvanovich who ran alot Group Buys and ended up scamming a lot of money after not fulfilling them.
All the more reason to go with the "TIE" name and abandoning the "Ivan" name. :thumb:
Post by: jihadu on Fri, 26 July 2019, 13:09:43
What does TIE mean, btw?Fun fact: it's named after former community member IvanIvanovich who ran alot Group Buys and ended up scamming a lot of money after not fulfilling them.
All the more reason to go with the "TIE" name and abandoning the "Ivan" name. :thumb:
Post by: depletedvespene on Fri, 26 July 2019, 13:14:58
What does TIE mean, btw?Fun fact: it's named after former community member IvanIvanovich who ran alot Group Buys and ended up scamming a lot of money after not fulfilling them.
All the more reason to go with the "TIE" name and abandoning the "Ivan" name. :thumb:
"Tiny Intersection Enter" (as it covers the area common to ANSI and ISO Enter keys, much like BAE would be the union of both areas).
Post by: jihadu on Fri, 26 July 2019, 13:28:06
That makes sense.What does TIE mean, btw?Fun fact: it's named after former community member IvanIvanovich who ran alot Group Buys and ended up scamming a lot of money after not fulfilling them.
All the more reason to go with the "TIE" name and abandoning the "Ivan" name. :thumb:
"Tiny Intersection Enter" (as it covers the area common to ANSI and ISO Enter keys, much like BAE would be the union of both areas).
Post by: bobgr8 on Fri, 26 July 2019, 13:55:09
Pricing will be announced at a later date, but yes the base kit will be quite a bit cheaper than the previous round obviously! That much I can say :)
whoa that sounds awesome man!
Please have an Asia vendor that ships to India. This would BE my first GMK!
if this is $100, with taxes, I can afford this!
Post by: ctrlshiftba on Sun, 28 July 2019, 08:55:22
Post by: konstantin on Sun, 28 July 2019, 10:58:18
this has to be the first GMK base kit I've ever seen that doesn't have the extra 2.25 shift included. any chance it could be moved in?
It should definitely stay in the Addition kit imo. It's only used in one layout which isn't really all that common.
Post by: RominRonin on Sun, 28 July 2019, 14:00:28
Given the improvement of the modifiers is a significant one, and given that there are many out there who own R1 and R2 sets, not to mention Original Classic sets, is there a possibility you might offer the modifiers as a stand-alone kit, separate from the alphas?
Apologies is that has come up int he thread already, I admit to not having read through each reply at this stage.
Post by: jani80k on Mon, 29 July 2019, 07:15:26
Post by: depletedvespene on Mon, 29 July 2019, 07:47:53
I'd put colored ISO enters in the Addition Kit. ePBT has them.
Will you be posting the revised kits soon? (there's one change still to be made to the (initial) Addition kit ;) ).
Post by: lewisflude on Mon, 29 July 2019, 10:33:34
I'd put colored ISO enters in the Addition Kit. ePBT has them.
Will you be posting the revised kits soon? (there's one change still to be made to the (initial) Addition kit ;) ).
I'd love to get this set, but I don't think I would unless the ISO support was done properly. Accented enter keys, a NorDeUk kit or UK-ISO included with ISO etc.
Post by: jay6889 on Tue, 30 July 2019, 03:03:34
Post by: yokern on Tue, 30 July 2019, 04:11:31
Post by: ZyBeR on Tue, 30 July 2019, 07:14:41
Post by: forevermadrigal on Tue, 30 July 2019, 07:32:14
I filled out the form. Will you email me when the kits are about to drop or will you do it here?
I’m sure they’ll announce gb date here
Post by: ideus on Tue, 30 July 2019, 14:38:28
A Nordic kit would be nice :)+1++1+++1
Post by: RETURNISO on Wed, 31 July 2019, 04:17:51
A Nordic kit would be nice :)+1++1+++1
It is possible 😁
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Post by: ideus on Wed, 31 July 2019, 07:25:53
Awesome setup. Is it hand wired? Where did you get that nice case?A Nordic kit would be nice :)+1++1+++1
It is possible 😁
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Post by: bizun on Wed, 31 July 2019, 09:55:40
Awesome setup. Is it hand wired? Where did you get that nice case?Its Grid 600.
Post by: RETURNISO on Wed, 31 July 2019, 10:10:05
Awesome setup. Is it hand wired? Where did you get that nice case?A Nordic kit would be nice :)+1++1+++1
It is possible 😁
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Yeah its a Grid 600, No handwire lol ^-^
Its 9009 R1 with a Intl. Kit from R2. Relegendables from a g80-8113
Post by: D3LTA on Wed, 31 July 2019, 10:26:53
Post by: GarrettSucks on Wed, 31 July 2019, 12:30:00
Were the renders made with the final alignments as well? If not it would be good to have them updated, just to see how things will look like.
Renders were not made to spec with the flat vector that was incorrect. They are closer to correct. But once again, nothing is perfect since these are just representations of the product before it exists.
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Post by: lewisflude on Thu, 01 August 2019, 08:34:24
ISO accents and R0 would be an insta-buy from me
ISO accents and UK ISO in some form would make the difference between me buying/not buying this set.
Post by: hottrout on Thu, 01 August 2019, 11:37:41
ISO accents and R0 would be an insta-buy from me
ISO accents and UK ISO in some form would make the difference between me buying/not buying this set.
Ditto, just add the missing keys and I am in as well.
Post by: gidimi on Thu, 01 August 2019, 15:37:07
ISO accents and R0 would be an insta-buy from me
ISO accents and UK ISO in some form would make the difference between me buying/not buying this set.
Ditto, just add the missing keys and I am in as well.
Same here. At the very least ISO accent would be awesome.
Post by: janglad on Thu, 01 August 2019, 16:44:12
Here are some kit updates!! :)
Obscure kit
The kit is further streamlined, with unnecessary duplicate keys removed. Added is fuller support for Minivan type layouts and a mod coloured quote key for ortho users.
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/1564694836794-WQQHCECH7CWOQ4JMKB9C/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPTrHXgsMrSIMwe6YW3w1AZ7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0k5fwC0WRNFJBIXiBeNI5fKTrY37saURwPBw8fO2esROAxn-RKSrlQamlL27g22X2A/Kit_Obscure.jpg)
Addition kit
Due to popular demand: inclusion of full ISO-UK support and the addition of accented ISO UK enters! The alternative 65% row is also completed for more options there.
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/1564694817357-3ZSJMWJ2H28YBPI14OM4/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPTrHXgsMrSIMwe6YW3w1AZ7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0k5fwC0WRNFJBIXiBeNI5fKTrY37saURwPBw8fO2esROAxn-RKSrlQamlL27g22X2A/Kit_Addition.jpg)
Also some cool added renders on the J-01 by Jae from Top Clack!
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/1564695209574-NZ70MPFA107WT1I3WZFI/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPTrHXgsMrSIMwe6YW3w1AZ7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0k5fwC0WRNFJBIXiBeNI5fKTrY37saURwPBw8fO2esROAxn-RKSrlQamlL27g22X2A/J01_Side.jpg)
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/1564695210853-YUQQQOKPFAA7SAP3RHHE/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPTrHXgsMrSIMwe6YW3w1AZ7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0k5fwC0WRNFJBIXiBeNI5fKTrY37saURwPBw8fO2esROAxn-RKSrlQamlL27g22X2A/J01_Top.jpg)
I'm very excited to bring this classic back, we'll continue working on this behind the scenes and will be back with more updates soon!!! :D
Post by: kakiharaOne on Thu, 01 August 2019, 17:03:16
Hey everyone!
Here are some kit updates!! :)
Obscure kit
The kit is further streamlined, with unnecessary duplicate keys removed. Added is fuller support for Minivan type layouts and a mod coloured quote key for ortho users.Show Image(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/1564694836794-WQQHCECH7CWOQ4JMKB9C/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPTrHXgsMrSIMwe6YW3w1AZ7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0k5fwC0WRNFJBIXiBeNI5fKTrY37saURwPBw8fO2esROAxn-RKSrlQamlL27g22X2A/Kit_Obscure.jpg)
Addition kit
Due to popular demand: inclusion of full ISO-UK support and the addition of accented ISO UK enters! The alternative 65% row is also completed for more options there.Show Image(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/1564694817357-3ZSJMWJ2H28YBPI14OM4/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPTrHXgsMrSIMwe6YW3w1AZ7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0k5fwC0WRNFJBIXiBeNI5fKTrY37saURwPBw8fO2esROAxn-RKSrlQamlL27g22X2A/Kit_Addition.jpg)
Also some cool added renders on the J-01 by Jae from Top Clack!Show Image(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/1564695209574-NZ70MPFA107WT1I3WZFI/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPTrHXgsMrSIMwe6YW3w1AZ7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0k5fwC0WRNFJBIXiBeNI5fKTrY37saURwPBw8fO2esROAxn-RKSrlQamlL27g22X2A/J01_Side.jpg)Show Image(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/1564695210853-YUQQQOKPFAA7SAP3RHHE/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPTrHXgsMrSIMwe6YW3w1AZ7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0k5fwC0WRNFJBIXiBeNI5fKTrY37saURwPBw8fO2esROAxn-RKSrlQamlL27g22X2A/J01_Top.jpg)
I'm very excited to bring this classic back, we'll continue working on this behind the scenes and will be back with more updates soon!!! :D
Is the top row in the obscure kit R1 or R2?
Edit: Never mind. Looks like that is a 1.75 backspace, not 1.5. Any chance of adding an R1 1.5 backspace?
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 01 August 2019, 17:23:32
Post by: eskimojo on Thu, 01 August 2019, 18:20:23
Hey everyone!
Here are some kit updates!! :)
......
Addition kit
Due to popular demand: inclusion of full ISO-UK support and the addition of accented ISO UK enters! The alternative 65% row is also completed for more options there.Show Image(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/1564694817357-3ZSJMWJ2H28YBPI14OM4/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPTrHXgsMrSIMwe6YW3w1AZ7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0k5fwC0WRNFJBIXiBeNI5fKTrY37saURwPBw8fO2esROAxn-RKSrlQamlL27g22X2A/Kit_Addition.jpg)
This change just changed this set from an easy skip to a definite consideration for me, damn.
I don't suppose there's any plan for 9009 inspired novelties (Deal, etc.?) like EPBT has? Always found those quite fun.
That aside, a big thanks for ISO UK love <3
Post by: bnhw on Thu, 01 August 2019, 18:39:39
Post by: Zacharius on Thu, 01 August 2019, 18:44:18
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Post by: hottrout on Thu, 01 August 2019, 18:59:31
Thank you for the UK ISO, much appreciated and I will be ordering to say thanks for the support.
Post by: painstar on Thu, 01 August 2019, 22:31:44
Would be hype for VIM keys too
Post by: dexie on Fri, 02 August 2019, 00:15:35
Any chance for a R0?
Post by: gidimi on Fri, 02 August 2019, 00:32:23
Post by: lewisflude on Fri, 02 August 2019, 01:39:23
Post by: fabryrock on Fri, 02 August 2019, 07:21:09
Post by: jihadu on Fri, 02 August 2019, 10:07:03
I admit I'm biased as the only BoW Portuguese caps that have been made in the GMK era are WS1 and not L9. A detail I missed when I joined and didn't think much about until I saw the two side by side
Thanks for your eventual answer
Post by: rockydbull on Fri, 02 August 2019, 10:13:08
Hi Janglad. Given the recent trend of designers choosing WS1 as the white of choice, will you stick with L9 or go WS1?
I admit I'm biased as the only BoW Portuguese caps that have been made in the GMK era are WS1 and not L9. A detail I missed when I joined and didn't think much about until I saw the two side by side
Thanks for your eventual answer
WS1 is distinctly whiter than L9. This set would be substantially changed from previous revisions if the designer were to do that.
Post by: janglad on Fri, 02 August 2019, 13:01:08
Hi Janglad. Given the recent trend of designers choosing WS1 as the white of choice, will you stick with L9 or go WS1?
I admit I'm biased as the only BoW Portuguese caps that have been made in the GMK era are WS1 and not L9. A detail I missed when I joined and didn't think much about until I saw the two side by side
Thanks for your eventual answer
WS1 is distinctly whiter than L9. This set would be substantially changed from previous revisions if the designer were to do that.
Yes, 9009 without L9 would not be 9009. This is definitely not something that will change.
Post by: voxkey on Fri, 02 August 2019, 13:12:28
Just went back through the thread and haven't seen this mentioned yet.
Great work, new legends look clean.
Post by: thornkin on Fri, 02 August 2019, 16:45:06
Post by: phinix on Fri, 02 August 2019, 17:21:09
Hey everyone!
Here are some kit updates!! :)
Addition kit
Due to popular demand: inclusion of full ISO-UK support and the addition of accented ISO UK enters! The alternative 65% row is also completed for more options there.
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/1564694817357-3ZSJMWJ2H28YBPI14OM4/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPTrHXgsMrSIMwe6YW3w1AZ7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0k5fwC0WRNFJBIXiBeNI5fKTrY37saURwPBw8fO2esROAxn-RKSrlQamlL27g22X2A/Kit_Addition.jpg)
(https://i.imgflip.com/2225jg.jpg)
Post by: jihadu on Fri, 02 August 2019, 20:00:09
Thanks for the answer. Will buy one nonethelessHi Janglad. Given the recent trend of designers choosing WS1 as the white of choice, will you stick with L9 or go WS1?
I admit I'm biased as the only BoW Portuguese caps that have been made in the GMK era are WS1 and not L9. A detail I missed when I joined and didn't think much about until I saw the two side by side
Thanks for your eventual answer
WS1 is distinctly whiter than L9. This set would be substantially changed from previous revisions if the designer were to do that.
Yes, 9009 without L9 would not be 9009. This is definitely not something that will change.
Post by: timbaaa on Sat, 03 August 2019, 11:36:23
This will give coverage to nav cluster for 65% and 75% users.
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Post by: depletedvespene on Sat, 03 August 2019, 12:09:05
Any chance of adding an extra 'End' key in for Row 4?
This will give coverage to nav cluster for 65% and 75% users.
Isn't it already in the "Addition" kit?
Post by: timbaaa on Sat, 03 August 2019, 13:45:39
Any chance of adding an extra 'End' key in for Row 4?
This will give coverage to nav cluster for 65% and 75% users.
Isn't it already in the "Addition" kit?
Whoops yes its there.
I meant instead to include it in the base kit as that would mean not having to pick up the "Addition" kit for just one key.
Post by: konstantin on Sat, 03 August 2019, 13:57:21
Whoops yes its there.
I meant instead to include it in the base kit as that would mean not having to pick up the "Addition" kit for just one key.
In that case R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn should definitely be moved to the base kit as well. At which point it may not be worth moving anything at all.
Post by: jimboytacos on Sat, 03 August 2019, 14:21:21
Any chance of adding an extra 'End' key in for Row 4?
This will give coverage to nav cluster for 65% and 75% users.
Isn't it already in the "Addition" kit?
Whoops yes its there.
I meant instead to include it in the base kit as that would mean not having to pick up the "Addition" kit for just one key.
Yes! Please!
Post by: ideus on Sat, 03 August 2019, 17:59:29
Should you support the Addition kit by buying it to reach MoQ instead?Any chance of adding an extra 'End' key in for Row 4?
This will give coverage to nav cluster for 65% and 75% users.
Isn't it already in the "Addition" kit?
Whoops yes its there.
I meant instead to include it in the base kit as that would mean not having to pick up the "Addition" kit for just one key.
Yes! Please!
Post by: The_Royal on Sat, 03 August 2019, 18:58:47
Just 4 more keys, and many many 40% could have those sweet sweet Accents. :)
Post by: qriousgabriel on Sun, 04 August 2019, 15:52:40
I think Accent colors on at least the 1.75u and 1u Enter Keys on the 40’s Kit would really be a nice addition.I second this.
Just 4 more keys, and many many 40% could have those sweet sweet Accents. :)
Post by: depletedvespene on Sun, 04 August 2019, 17:19:40
As it stands now, the Addition kit contains full support for UK ISO (eight+two keys: ISO left Shift, ISO Enter, R1 `¬, R1 2", R1 3£, R3 '@, R3 #~ and R4 \| — also, two accented ISO Enter keys). This means that three out of the four keys required to fully support US ISO are present... with only R3 \| still needed.
So, the Addition kit could well add one key: R3 \| and bring full UK+US ISO support with it.
Post by: depletedvespene on Sun, 04 August 2019, 17:25:35
IMHO (YMMV, WDIKAA), if "international" support is going to remain in the Addition kit, perhaps the base kit should contain two 1.25U and two 1.5U "Alt" keys, and have the Addition kit contain one 1.25U and one 1.5U "AltGr" keys (and perhaps a 1U AltGr key as well).
Post by: ideus on Sun, 04 August 2019, 18:10:14
As long as we're talking about adding keys... here is some food for thought.Feeding a bit more food for thought:
As it stands now, the Addition kit contains full support for UK ISO (eight+two keys: ISO left Shift, ISO Enter, R1 `¬, R1 2", R1 3£, R3 '@, R3 #~ and R4 \| — also, two accented ISO Enter keys). This means that three out of the four keys required to fully support US ISO are present... with only R3 \| still needed.
So, the Addition kit could well add one key: R3 \| and bring full UK+US ISO support with it.
(https://i.imgur.com/D91Oxie.jpg)
Some time ago, I was using this vintage NCR set that was depicted as an US ANSI international set, featured by a Lab keyboard intended for international use. An R3 ~` key may fits it as well.
Post by: depletedvespene on Sun, 04 August 2019, 18:32:17
As long as we're talking about adding keys... here is some food for thought.Feeding a bit more food for thought:
As it stands now, the Addition kit contains full support for UK ISO (eight+two keys: ISO left Shift, ISO Enter, R1 `¬, R1 2", R1 3£, R3 '@, R3 #~ and R4 \| — also, two accented ISO Enter keys). This means that three out of the four keys required to fully support US ISO are present... with only R3 \| still needed.
So, the Addition kit could well add one key: R3 \| and bring full UK+US ISO support with it.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/D91Oxie.jpg)
Some time ago, I was using this vintage NCR set that was depicted as an US ANSI international set, featured by a Lab keyboard intended for international use. An R3 ~` key may fits it as well.
Well... it does fit an XT keyboard, on which the `~ key was indeed in that place in R3 (note the pretty telling */PrtSc key on the bottom right corner, as well). But it really doesn't fit anymore, since the F AT keyboard moved it to the top left corner (a place that was retained in the Enhanced layout and is still standard). As much as I'd like some keys of yore to return, adding an R3 `~ key would cause quite a lot of problems (IMHO, YMMV, WDIKAA) for users nowadays.
That said, nice-looking keyboard!
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 05 August 2019, 01:19:00
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Mon, 05 August 2019, 03:15:48
Post by: depletedvespene on Mon, 05 August 2019, 10:23:56
Wait, what happened to the 1.25u Enter in the obscure kit? That was the entire reason I was interested.
I would guess it fell to the Curse of Ivan.
And this, kids, is why the R3 1.25U Enter needs to be called "TIE Enter" instead of "Ivan Enter". :cool:
Post by: ideus on Mon, 05 August 2019, 15:54:54
Post by: The_Royal on Mon, 05 August 2019, 15:58:29
I need a R3 1.75 Enter, but I ain't sure if the included one is that size.
It is. 1.75u and 1u are pretty much the standard 40% Enter sizes.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 05 August 2019, 15:59:38
Good. I cannot pass on a classic and my all time color-way favorite.I need a R3 1.75 Enter, but I ain't sure if the included one is that size.
It is. 1.75u and 1u are pretty much the standard 40% Enter sizes.
With obscure my lil fellow 50 kb will get all its proper legends and profiles, including tab, enter and split space bars. Nice.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Mon, 05 August 2019, 16:39:47
As long as we're talking about adding keys... here is some food for thought.Feeding a bit more food for thought:
As it stands now, the Addition kit contains full support for UK ISO (eight+two keys: ISO left Shift, ISO Enter, R1 `¬, R1 2", R1 3£, R3 '@, R3 #~ and R4 \| — also, two accented ISO Enter keys). This means that three out of the four keys required to fully support US ISO are present... with only R3 \| still needed.
So, the Addition kit could well add one key: R3 \| and bring full UK+US ISO support with it.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/D91Oxie.jpg)
Some time ago, I was using this vintage NCR set that was depicted as an US ANSI international set, featured by a Lab keyboard intended for international use. An R3 ~` key may fits it as well.
Those accents are nice
Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 05 August 2019, 18:39:45
Post by: dr_unconscionable on Tue, 06 August 2019, 02:04:02
Post by: RominRonin on Tue, 06 August 2019, 04:20:28
I asked earlier and didn't see any replies, what are the chances of getting a modifiers only kit, for those who bought in on previous 9009 or Retro Classic GBs?
Or is the message for those of us who want the new, improved modifiers to buy in again?
Thanks
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 06 August 2019, 09:43:23
Hey everyone!
Here are some kit updates!! :)
[...]
There are still some issues with the kits. For starters, there is no R5 1.25u Fn key present in any kit. In my opinion, the R5 1.25u Menu key in the Standard kit should be replaced with an Fn key, or at least moved to the Addition kit in favor of a bottom row Fn key being added to base. Fn can serve as a suitable replacement for Menu, whereas the reverse is not really true. I'd also argue that an Fn key in that spot is much more Standard than Menu is.
Further, a R3 1.75u Function key should probably be added to the Addition kit, being a popular Caps Lock replacement option (albeit somewhat underrepresented in GMK sets). The Addition kit description states that it offers “some options for different legends in the 65% and caps lock area”, so I think this suggestion fits the bill straight up.
With any further additions to the Addition kit (such as moving the Alt Gr keys there, as someone suggested (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101623.msg2794138#msg2794138)), I'd like to ask you to consider moving the R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn, R4 End keys to the Standard kit. They're pretty much as common as the other competing options at this point — if not more so — and this will help avoid bloat in the smaller kit. I see I'm not alone in asking this.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 06 August 2019, 09:48:52
Post by: Wongstongs on Tue, 06 August 2019, 10:50:02
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 06 August 2019, 11:41:10
As a 65% and 75% user, I also support moving the required nav keys to the base kit :thumb:
I must be confused but it seems like they are there? At least for something like a Tada?
Post by: Wongstongs on Tue, 06 August 2019, 12:04:58
As a 65% and 75% user, I also support moving the required nav keys to the base kit :thumb:
I must be confused but it seems like they are there? At least for something like a Tada?
Oh I meant the alternate ones, like the end key.
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Tue, 06 August 2019, 12:23:13
With any further additions to the Addition kit (such as moving the Alt Gr keys there, as someone suggested (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101623.msg2794138#msg2794138)), I'd like to ask you to consider moving the R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn, R4 End keys to the Standard kit. They're pretty much as common as the other competing options at this point — if not more so — and this will help avoid bloat in the smaller kit. I see I'm not alone in asking this.
Very happy with kit changes, should keep base very reasonable. My only suggestion would be what constexpr mentioned, 3/4 PgUP/PgDn, R4 end.
Post by: Tre3Cycl3S on Tue, 06 August 2019, 21:59:41
Post by: Blank on Wed, 07 August 2019, 09:34:05
Post by: ideus on Thu, 08 August 2019, 10:54:35
The 9009 r3 deserves to get its own Norde-UK.Awesome setup. Is it hand wired? Where did you get that nice case?A Nordic kit would be nice :)+1++1+++1
It is possible 😁
(Attachment Link)
Yeah its a Grid 600, No handwire lol ^-^
Its 9009 R1 with a Intl. Kit from R2. Relegendables from a g80-8113
Post by: 0Name on Thu, 08 August 2019, 11:12:53
I don't know about R5 tho. Would it make 9009 R3 out of place compared to other sets?
Post by: dumhevae on Thu, 08 August 2019, 11:27:37
The 9009 r3 deserves to get its own Norde-UK.Awesome setup. Is it hand wired? Where did you get that nice case?A Nordic kit would be nice :)+1++1+++1
It is possible 😁
(Attachment Link)
Yeah its a Grid 600, No handwire lol ^-^
Its 9009 R1 with a Intl. Kit from R2. Relegendables from a g80-8113
+1 for nordic
Post by: ideus on Thu, 08 August 2019, 12:24:51
Nice changes to the icons. I'd consider it as an improvements.R5 makes this run of 9009 the real classic thing. Even more, if you consider that it features r5 with 1.5 mods which would be a first in icons version in this color way.
I don't know about R5 tho. Would it make 9009 R3 out of place compared to other sets?
Post by: eskimojo on Thu, 08 August 2019, 12:36:02
although, as someone pointed out earlier, the original g80-9009 HAG board has no r5 row :DNice changes to the icons. I'd consider it as an improvements.R5 makes this run of 9009 the real classic thing. Even more, if you consider that it features r5 with 1.5 mods which would be a first in icons version in this color way.
I don't know about R5 tho. Would it make 9009 R3 out of place compared to other sets?
also, isn't the bottom row icon mod kit r4?
Post by: ideus on Thu, 08 August 2019, 22:36:34
isn't the bottom row icon mod kit r4?
It is not explicitly stated. The OP should confirm it.
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 08 August 2019, 22:39:35
isn't the bottom row icon mod kit r4?
It is not explicitly stated. The OP should confirm it.
It's stated explicitly.
Quote
Modern
Want to add a modern look to your set? Or maybe you’re just a fan of the uniform look having only icons on the modifiers gives you? Then this kit is for you! It features icon modifiers for all of the bottom row, escape and 1.75 control while also adding a more modern interpretation of the tab key and caps lock. This kit features a more modern R4 bottom row.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 09 August 2019, 07:46:11
Have to brush up my reading skills, sorry. So that means that only the main kit bottom rows are both, 1.5 and 1.25, R5?
isn't the bottom row icon mod kit r4?
It is not explicitly stated. The OP should confirm it.
It's stated explicitly.QuoteModern
Want to add a modern look to your set? Or maybe you’re just a fan of the uniform look having only icons on the modifiers gives you? Then this kit is for you! It features icon modifiers for all of the bottom row, escape and 1.75 control while also adding a more modern interpretation of the tab key and caps lock. This kit features a more modern R4 bottom row.
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 09 August 2019, 07:55:58
Yup, the base kit seems to have an all R5 bottom row. 1.25u support became possible since Carbon R2.Have to brush up my reading skills, sorry. So that means that only the main kit bottom rows are both, 1.5 and 1.25, R5?
isn't the bottom row icon mod kit r4?
It is not explicitly stated. The OP should confirm it.
It's stated explicitly.QuoteModern
Want to add a modern look to your set? Or maybe you’re just a fan of the uniform look having only icons on the modifiers gives you? Then this kit is for you! It features icon modifiers for all of the bottom row, escape and 1.75 control while also adding a more modern interpretation of the tab key and caps lock. This kit features a more modern R4 bottom row.
Post by: janglad on Fri, 09 August 2019, 09:16:19
Yup, the base kit seems to have an all R5 bottom row. 1.25u support became possible since Carbon R2.Have to brush up my reading skills, sorry. So that means that only the main kit bottom rows are both, 1.5 and 1.25, R5?
isn't the bottom row icon mod kit r4?
It is not explicitly stated. The OP should confirm it.
It's stated explicitly.QuoteModern
Want to add a modern look to your set? Or maybe you’re just a fan of the uniform look having only icons on the modifiers gives you? Then this kit is for you! It features icon modifiers for all of the bottom row, escape and 1.75 control while also adding a more modern interpretation of the tab key and caps lock. This kit features a more modern R4 bottom row.
Correct, base is all R5 with Modern being all R4.
Post by: voxkey on Fri, 09 August 2019, 09:22:03
Yup, the base kit seems to have an all R5 bottom row. 1.25u support became possible since Carbon R2.Have to brush up my reading skills, sorry. So that means that only the main kit bottom rows are both, 1.5 and 1.25, R5?
isn't the bottom row icon mod kit r4?
It is not explicitly stated. The OP should confirm it.
It's stated explicitly.QuoteModern
Want to add a modern look to your set? Or maybe you’re just a fan of the uniform look having only icons on the modifiers gives you? Then this kit is for you! It features icon modifiers for all of the bottom row, escape and 1.75 control while also adding a more modern interpretation of the tab key and caps lock. This kit features a more modern R4 bottom row.
Correct, base is all R5 with Modern being all R4.
Hey Janglad,
Not sure if this has been answered elsewhere, but is it possible to get the bottom three arrows in R4 added into the modern kit? Since they would still be row 5 currently.
Post by: janglad on Fri, 09 August 2019, 09:26:12
Any chance of adding an extra 'End' key in for Row 4?
This will give coverage to nav cluster for 65% and 75% users.
Isn't it already in the "Addition" kit?
Whoops yes its there.
I meant instead to include it in the base kit as that would mean not having to pick up the "Addition" kit for just one key.
Whoops yes its there.
I meant instead to include it in the base kit as that would mean not having to pick up the "Addition" kit for just one key.
In that case R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn should definitely be moved to the base kit as well. At which point it may not be worth moving anything at all.
We felt like using Fn there is definitely the most popular option which is included in the kit obviously. Very very few people asked about moving the end key in the form (sub 0.007% brought it up out of 430+ replies) so it seems like that assumption is correct. We have to really balance out the Standard kit for the price point we want to hit, because compared to say Minimal there are a lot more keys (5 more accents, 2 options for tilde and pipe and such).
Post by: janglad on Fri, 09 August 2019, 09:31:12
Yup, the base kit seems to have an all R5 bottom row. 1.25u support became possible since Carbon R2.Have to brush up my reading skills, sorry. So that means that only the main kit bottom rows are both, 1.5 and 1.25, R5?
isn't the bottom row icon mod kit r4?
It is not explicitly stated. The OP should confirm it.
It's stated explicitly.QuoteModern
Want to add a modern look to your set? Or maybe you’re just a fan of the uniform look having only icons on the modifiers gives you? Then this kit is for you! It features icon modifiers for all of the bottom row, escape and 1.75 control while also adding a more modern interpretation of the tab key and caps lock. This kit features a more modern R4 bottom row.
Correct, base is all R5 with Modern being all R4.
Hey Janglad,
Not sure if this has been answered elsewhere, but is it possible to get the bottom three arrows in R4 added into the modern kit? Since they would still be row 5 currently.
I'm literally working on adding that right now :) But yes, we did purposely let them out at first since our thinking was that full icon is pretty much only used on 60% either way (since on 65+ you still have text mods). However, thinking it over again and looking at some Modern Dolch pictures that doesn't seem to be the case. So yes, we'll be adding those in, making the Modern kit compatible with boards from 60% up to TKL. Boards with numpads will still not have a fully matching R4 bottom row tho, since adding that in would require a lot of keys (2u 0, 1u 0, 1u 00, 1u period and also 3 new numpad enters since those are different for R5 too) which would increase the cost far too much compared to the % of people that would use those.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 09 August 2019, 09:33:54
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 09 August 2019, 10:02:03
We felt like using Fn there is definitely the most popular option which is included in the kit obviously. Very very few people asked about moving the end key in the form (sub 0.007% brought it up out of 430+ replies) so it seems like that assumption is correct. We have to really balance out the Standard kit for the price point we want to hit, because compared to say Minimal there are a lot more keys (5 more accents, 2 options for tilde and pipe and such).
That makes a lot of sense, but please keep the Addition kit in mind as well when striking that balance. Dropping the Standard kit price as low as possible isn't really worth it if plenty (I can't put an exact number to plenty, but let's say a decent chunk) of people end up having to pay an extra $50 for an Addition kit anyway to get a piece of compatibility that they need. That's why I was suggesting moving at least a couple of the keys to Standard if you decide to expand Addition any further. Which keys exactly — it doesn't matter that much, as long as it's enough to offset some of those diminishing returns that occur with further reduction of the Standard kit.
By the way, I hadn't noticed the IC form link until you mentioned it just now, even though I'd been following the thread since day one. Just filled it out.
Post by: voxkey on Fri, 09 August 2019, 10:05:52
Post by: martensson on Fri, 09 August 2019, 12:30:16
a vim kit maybe? anyone?
If there's enough demand we can definitely add one, however, we already have a lot of kits as is and all of them of course need to hit MOQ.
Yes please for a VIM kit, it fits the 9009 sooo well!
Post by: break on Fri, 09 August 2019, 13:55:59
a vim kit maybe? anyone?
If there's enough demand we can definitely add one, however, we already have a lot of kits as is and all of them of course need to hit MOQ.
Yes please for a VIM kit, it fits the 9009 sooo well!
What would a vim kit look like here? HJKL arrows, Vim novelties?
Post by: ideus on Fri, 09 August 2019, 14:13:45
The simpler the better: HJKL with arrows in base color for both cap and legends.a vim kit maybe? anyone?
If there's enough demand we can definitely add one, however, we already have a lot of kits as is and all of them of course need to hit MOQ.
Yes please for a VIM kit, it fits the 9009 sooo well!
What would a vim kit look like here? HJKL arrows, Vim novelties?
Post by: break on Fri, 09 August 2019, 14:49:42
The simpler the better: HJKL with arrows in base color for both cap and legends.a vim kit maybe? anyone?
If there's enough demand we can definitely add one, however, we already have a lot of kits as is and all of them of course need to hit MOQ.
Yes please for a VIM kit, it fits the 9009 sooo well!
What would a vim kit look like here? HJKL arrows, Vim novelties?
Agreed, I like this a lot.
Post by: janglad on Fri, 09 August 2019, 15:30:36
a vim kit maybe? anyone?
If there's enough demand we can definitely add one, however, we already have a lot of kits as is and all of them of course need to hit MOQ.
Yes please for a VIM kit, it fits the 9009 sooo well!
What would a vim kit look like here? HJKL arrows, Vim novelties?
So a VIM kit has requested a fair bit. My issue with this is first that we already have 6 kits and secondly the fact that it won't be all that cheap of a kit. Especially if we also offer the HJKL arrows. You're looking at 12 keys for basic VIM at least (alpha-green-red), but then you probably also want to add in the VIM novelties like in the 9009 VIM kit that was sold after 9009 R2. I'm just afraid that with there already being quite a bit of kits, adding another semi-expensive "optional aesthetic" kit is not a good idea.
Post by: Zacharius on Fri, 09 August 2019, 21:00:47
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190810/7779180a8a2c06f0a72cc399385e7934.jpg)a vim kit maybe? anyone?
If there's enough demand we can definitely add one, however, we already have a lot of kits as is and all of them of course need to hit MOQ.
Yes please for a VIM kit, it fits the 9009 sooo well!
What would a vim kit look like here? HJKL arrows, Vim novelties?
So a VIM kit has requested a fair bit. My issue with this is first that we already have 6 kits and secondly the fact that it won't be all that cheap of a kit. Especially if we also offer the HJKL arrows. You're looking at 12 keys for basic VIM at least (alpha-green-red), but then you probably also want to add in the VIM novelties like in the 9009 VIM kit that was sold after 9009 R2. I'm just afraid that with there already being quite a bit of kits, adding another semi-expensive "optional aesthetic" kit is not a good idea.
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Post by: ideus on Fri, 09 August 2019, 21:16:29
A VIM kit does not have to be a full thing with accent colors, nor anything fancy like vim control or vim escape. The kit that was offered before included all those keys, like 15 keys or more, because it was an stand alone kit. But now, a basic vim kit is what fits this set better, just four keys with arrows as secondary legends along with hjkl, not more.The simpler the better: HJKL with arrows in base color for both cap and legends.a vim kit maybe? anyone?
If there's enough demand we can definitely add one, however, we already have a lot of kits as is and all of them of course need to hit MOQ.
Yes please for a VIM kit, it fits the 9009 sooo well!
What would a vim kit look like here? HJKL arrows, Vim novelties?
Agreed, I like this a lot.
Post by: Zacharius on Fri, 09 August 2019, 21:39:32
Yeah I don’t think it would require all the colors. Simple HJKL would be absolutely amazing.A VIM kit does not have to be a full thing with accent colors, nor anything fancy like vim control or vim escape. The kit that was offered before included all those keys, like 15 keys or more, because it was an stand alone kit. But now, a basic vim kit is what fits this set better, just four keys with arrows as secondary legends along with hjkl, not more.The simpler the better: HJKL with arrows in base color for both cap and legends.a vim kit maybe? anyone?
If there's enough demand we can definitely add one, however, we already have a lot of kits as is and all of them of course need to hit MOQ.
Yes please for a VIM kit, it fits the 9009 sooo well!
What would a vim kit look like here? HJKL arrows, Vim novelties?
Agreed, I like this a lot.
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Post by: thornkin on Sat, 10 August 2019, 00:36:14
Post by: romevi on Sat, 10 August 2019, 01:09:27
Post by: zekth on Sat, 10 August 2019, 16:17:38
(i personnaly use HJKL arrow cluster on another layer, but rarely using vim)
Post by: painstar on Sun, 11 August 2019, 16:31:44
PLEASE please please consider a vim kit
Post by: ideus on Sun, 11 August 2019, 19:55:46
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Post by: nasp on Mon, 12 August 2019, 12:13:39
Wanted to put a vote in for 3/4 PgUp and PgDn in base
As popular as this keyset will be and as popular as 65% are, I think this makes sense.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 12 August 2019, 15:26:04
Would love to see a simple vim kit in the base colours in a standalone set or perhaps merely include the vim keys in the Addition set together with all the other quirky keys+1 for an HJKL arrows set included in the Addition kit.
Post by: janglad on Mon, 12 August 2019, 16:59:07
Updated Modern kit
Now includes arrows so it's compatible for boards up to TKL! Keeping with the "modern" theme we decided to add the more minimal icons found on the Uniqey C70!
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/1565640217095-NS4FWAIS7VR4X4J4T4EU/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPTrHXgsMrSIMwe6YW3w1AZ7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0k5fwC0WRNFJBIXiBeNI5fKTrY37saURwPBw8fO2esROAxn-RKSrlQamlL27g22X2A/Kit_Modern.jpg?format=2500w)
Renders of this kit in action on a TGR Jane V2
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(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a02c663268b961642ad2bbf/1565640486722-W0V2HHDX5B6IYKP1I56S/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kPTrHXgsMrSIMwe6YW3w1AZ7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0k5fwC0WRNFJBIXiBeNI5fKTrY37saURwPBw8fO2esROAxn-RKSrlQamlL27g22X2A/Jane_Top.jpg?format=2500w)
General GB updates
I'm super excited to anounce that GMK 9009 R3 will launch on September 1st! The standard kit will be sold for $99.99 from day one (or your local currency/tax inclusive equivalent)! No more waiting for price drops! Due to the many changes made to kits throughout this IC, pricing for the other kits will follow on another date.
As always, thank you for all the support. The group buy is coming soon and I can't wait for it. I'm personally planning to put this on a Dharma, anyone else already have plans for what board they'll put this on? ;)
Post by: romevi on Mon, 12 August 2019, 17:03:38
That's my next-favorite Caps Lock symbol, right next to the "purse."
Post by: lightsout714 on Mon, 12 August 2019, 17:42:17
Post by: jimboytacos on Mon, 12 August 2019, 18:27:29
Future GMK sets take note. This is how you make an affordable and highly coveted kit!
Post by: GraffitiDecos on Mon, 12 August 2019, 18:45:32
- VoC on novel keys is 115$ including iso support, Numpad, 60% with arrows support.
- 8008 on Dixie is 130 with the same support as VoC
- Voyage on cannon keys is 124 without iso but plus accent space bars.
It only makes sense that if you get less, you pay less. It remains to be seen if the savings are scaled with what's taken away.
That being said, this is a beautiful set and I'll be picking it up! But it won't cost me 99$.
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Post by: TheAutoManCan on Mon, 12 August 2019, 19:00:44
Post by: nasp on Mon, 12 August 2019, 19:15:44
Child kit prices will be deciding factor. 99$ is exciting for a base. However,
- VoC on novel keys is 115$ including iso support, Numpad, 60% with arrows support.
- 8008 on Dixie is 130 with the same support as VoC
- Voyage on cannon keys is 124 without iso but plus accent space bars.
It only makes sense that if you get less, you pay less. It remains to be seen if the savings are scaled with what's taken away.
That being said, this is a beautiful set and I'll be picking it up! But it won't cost me 99$.
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THAT'S SOME RIDICULOUS CHEAP PRICE!
Future GMK sets take note. This is how you make an affordable and highly coveted kit!
Haven't seen a numpad kit below $30, regardless, it's still a good price and most will probably not need a numpad anyway.
Definitely appreciate all of the design changes this will make available for future GMK sets. Thank you!
Post by: depletedvespene on Mon, 12 August 2019, 19:17:51
Missed opportunity to include the nav cluster icons in the Modern kit. Just seems odd to discuss TKL compat with the arrows and then not even include nav cluster options as well.
I agree with this. This is quite the opportunity for an ALL ICONS kit, where only the alphas and F1..F12 are not turned into icons.
Post by: fr08 on Mon, 12 August 2019, 19:28:24
Just so I can save some money for this, if that's the case.
I already have the epbt version but really want it in gmk, and with R0 and R5 :)
Also, I don't think it makes any sense to not have sublegends on the numpad if you are going for the classic 9009 look. More old school, not less. Preferably also a numpad enter that says "Enter Xmit" etc. And some fun Deal novelties :)
Not as important: And a Caps Lock that says Caps Lock. Not that stupid down arrow again. If anything that should be in the Modern kit and the underscored Up arrow in the base kit. But again, that's one of those keys that just used to have text. So if you're going for classic/retro, Caps Lock with text.
(https://i.redd.it/d4da8zjej4q11.jpg)
Post by: bobgr8 on Mon, 12 August 2019, 19:31:44
Post by: depletedvespene on Mon, 12 August 2019, 19:36:07
Show Image(https://i.redd.it/d4da8zjej4q11.jpg)
Hey, what's with the swapped #~ and \| keys? ;D
Post by: depletedvespene on Mon, 12 August 2019, 19:40:23
1) The base kit is US ANSI only (fine by me, see below), but the 1.5U right Alt key is labeled "Alt Gr". This makes no sense on a US ANSI only kit — it should be "Alt" (and this comes from an "ISO is love, ISO is life" kind of guy!).
2) All accented keys in every kit get the green and the red version... all, except the R1 Insert key in the base kit. Is this an omission or a conscious choice? (I like Green Insert better, so...)
3) At the risk of exposing myself as an ignorant... I'd never seen a mod-colored R3 '/" key before. Who uses it? Besides this oddity, I dig the obscure kit (I'm tempted to get a couple just for the split space bars!).
4) The Addition kit has full and correct support for UK ISO... except for the bottom row. There should be an 1.25U Alt Gr key and an 1.5U Alt Gr key (this one brought in from the base kit)... and a 1U Alt Gr key, if we can get away with it.
4 redux) As long as we're asking, the Addition kit could ALSO get an R3 \| key, to give full support not just to UK ISO but to UK+US ISO. All y'all'd make this Texan(*) pretty happy.
5) This is wishful thinking at this point, but icons... icons all the way. Insert, Delete, Home, End, Page Up, Page Down... and Print Screen, Scroll Lock and Pause. Only F1..F12 should remain as legends.
5 redux) Wishful-er thinking: a separate icon for Alt Gr.
That's about it. :thumb:
(*) Ok, part Texan. But Texas is big, amirite?
Post by: fr08 on Mon, 12 August 2019, 19:44:33
Show Image(https://i.redd.it/d4da8zjej4q11.jpg)
Hey, what's with the swapped #~ and \| keys? ;D
No idea, just grabbed the first and best image of the g80-9009 I found :)
Wouldn't have noticed if you had not said anything lol, not that familiar with iso uk
Studying other results that key seems to be blank on many keyboards for some reason
https://i.imgur.com/hrpXukt.png
https://i.redd.it/zct6fbl0m4m21.jpg
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33130.0;attach=43795;image
http://i.imgur.com/yQclW.jpg
Would really like if this time this kit was the first modern one with a 1U key with the full Alt Graph text. Do the 9009 stuff right, then think about addons.. But maybe that's just me.
Post by: chriszhu on Mon, 12 August 2019, 19:45:42
Post by: depletedvespene on Mon, 12 August 2019, 19:54:49
Show Image(https://i.redd.it/d4da8zjej4q11.jpg)
Hey, what's with the swapped #~ and \| keys? ;D
No idea, just grabbed the first and best image of the g80-9009 I found :)
Wouldn't have noticed if you had not said anything lol, not that familiar with iso uk
Studying other results that key seems to be blank on many keyboards for some reason
https://i.imgur.com/hrpXukt.png
https://i.redd.it/zct6fbl0m4m21.jpg
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33130.0;attach=43795;image
http://i.imgur.com/yQclW.jpg
Your picture is of a keyboard with the UK ISO national layout (note the 3£ key), while the ones from those four links are all US ISO national layout (note the 3# key), where they didn't bother putting a legend OR going with a long left Shift (which would have made those keyboards ANSISO hybrids).
Would really like if this time this kit was the first modern one with a 1U key with the full Alt Graph text. Do the 9009 stuff right, then think about addons.. But maybe that's just me.
I concur.
Post by: fr08 on Mon, 12 August 2019, 20:09:43
Your picture is of a keyboard with the UK ISO national layout (note the 3£ key), while the ones from those four links are all US ISO national layout (note the 3# key), where they didn't bother putting a legend OR going with a long left Shift (which would have made those keyboards ANSISO hybrids).
I just know of these layouts but really have no idea but thank you for the clarification. I thought £ on 3 was universal.
...
That reminds me, for the Norde kit: I really wish this doesn't make the mistake all sets seems to do these days - € on E. It belongs on 5. Sure both keys have them on the "AltGr layer" but 5 is where it traditionally belongs. I think of E€ as a new thing even though I'm sure it's been a thing for 10+ years now lol
Post by: depletedvespene on Mon, 12 August 2019, 20:33:54
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That reminds me, for the Norde kit: I really wish this doesn't make the mistake all sets seems to do these days - € on E. It belongs on 5. Sure both keys have them on the "AltGr layer" but 5 is where it traditionally belongs. I think of E€ as a new thing even though I'm sure it's been a thing for 10+ years now lol
Depends on the country! Some national layouts put it on AltGr-5, some others put it in AltGr-E (and in the UK, it's been moved to... AltGr-4).
Post by: rockydbull on Mon, 12 August 2019, 20:43:23
Child kit prices will be deciding factor. 99$ is exciting for a base. However,
- VoC on novel keys is 115$ including iso support, Numpad, 60% with arrows support.
- 8008 on Dixie is 130 with the same support as VoC
- Voyage on cannon keys is 124 without iso but plus accent space bars.
It only makes sense that if you get less, you pay less. It remains to be seen if the savings are scaled with what's taken away.
That being said, this is a beautiful set and I'll be picking it up! But it won't cost me 99$.
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From my understanding of how gmk pricing works, I expect the child kits here to be pretty expensive and drive the overall package much higher than the normal gmk bundles.
Post by: fr08 on Mon, 12 August 2019, 21:05:59
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That reminds me, for the Norde kit: I really wish this doesn't make the mistake all sets seems to do these days - € on E. It belongs on 5. Sure both keys have them on the "AltGr layer" but 5 is where it traditionally belongs. I think of E€ as a new thing even though I'm sure it's been a thing for 10+ years now lol
Depends on the country! Some national layouts put it on AltGr-5, some others put it in AltGr-E (and in the UK, it's been moved to... AltGr-4).
In the Nordic layouts it's both on 5 and E, pretty sure it's the same in Germany. It used to be on only 5 but then (I think) Microsoft started putting it on E too. Which kind of make sense, sort of. But I refuse to relearn that, especially since both works.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Mon, 12 August 2019, 21:24:49
THAT'S SOME RIDICULOUS CHEAP PRICE!
Future GMK sets take note. This is how you make an affordable and highly coveted kit!
These are also stock colors
Post by: LoneRegiment on Mon, 12 August 2019, 22:07:53
Would love to see a simple vim kit in the base colours in a standalone set or perhaps merely include the vim keys in the Addition set together with all the other quirky keys+1 for an HJKL arrows set included in the Addition kit.
Yet another +1 for an HJKL arrows set included in the Addition kit.
Post by: i_am_pat on Mon, 12 August 2019, 23:12:18
Post by: ideus on Mon, 12 August 2019, 23:13:47
So, is this getting Norde caps or not? Since this is like the most popular set I'm assuming so but I see no renders or confirmation.This is a sick keyboard.
Just so I can save some money for this, if that's the case.
I already have the epbt version but really want it in gmk, and with R0 and R5 :)
Also, I don't think it makes any sense to not have sublegends on the numpad if you are going for the classic 9009 look. More old school, not less. Preferably also a numpad enter that says "Enter Xmit" etc. And some fun Deal novelties :)
Not as important: And a Caps Lock that says Caps Lock. Not that stupid down arrow again. If anything that should be in the Modern kit and the underscored Up arrow in the base kit. But again, that's one of those keys that just used to have text. So if you're going for classic/retro, Caps Lock with text.Show Image(https://i.redd.it/d4da8zjej4q11.jpg)
Post by: Emir on Tue, 13 August 2019, 01:52:39
Post by: Hydrolithium on Tue, 13 August 2019, 02:12:08
Post by: SwordLaker on Tue, 13 August 2019, 04:29:44
I'm out. This breaks too many compatibilities to be worth it.
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 13 August 2019, 05:36:33
Wow, R5?? Whose idea was that?
I'm out. This breaks too many compatibilities to be worth it.
That's harsh. What compatibilities does it break for you though?
Post by: qriousgabriel on Tue, 13 August 2019, 05:37:37
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Tue, 13 August 2019, 06:56:07
Wow, R5?? Whose idea was that?Such as...?
I'm out. This breaks too many compatibilities to be worth it.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 13 August 2019, 07:24:14
Compatibility? This is a full set not an add-on kit. LOL. Can't believe how convoluted the mind of some of us could be.Wow, R5?? Whose idea was that?Such as...?
I'm out. This breaks too many compatibilities to be worth it.
Post by: dss on Tue, 13 August 2019, 07:57:35
Post by: fr08 on Tue, 13 August 2019, 08:03:53
Exciting, I've filled out my form. Good to see GMK becoming more accessible some what. Thank you.
I really think the time is ready for GMK/Uniqey to start stocking timeless and popular sets like these and sell them directly from their website. That would make it even more accessible for everyone.
But I'm still confused. Are we getting Nordic support?
Post by: guzzi on Tue, 13 August 2019, 08:41:01
But I'm still confused. Are we getting Nordic support?
With the popularity of the colorway, the fact that it has stock colors and that R1 and R2 owners also might be interested, I would honestly be surprised If wouldnt make MOQ.
Hopefully we can garner enough interest for this to make it into the GB.
Post by: rockydbull on Tue, 13 August 2019, 08:52:00
But I'm still confused. Are we getting Nordic support?
With the popularity of the colorway, the fact that it has stock colors and that R1 and R2 owners also might be interested, I would honestly be surprised If wouldnt make MOQ.
Hopefully we can garner enough interest for this to make it into the GB.
Isn't MOQ 150 sets? That isnt a given with Norde on any set
Post by: The_Royal on Tue, 13 August 2019, 08:56:14
(https://i.imgur.com/SrtRkXC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DeOw9mg.jpg)
Heh?!?
Come ahN! You know you want to Janglad!
Post by: KingOfMemes on Tue, 13 August 2019, 08:58:40
Post by: fr08 on Tue, 13 August 2019, 09:00:52
But I'm still confused. Are we getting Nordic support?
With the popularity of the colorway, the fact that it has stock colors and that R1 and R2 owners also might be interested, I would honestly be surprised If wouldnt make MOQ.
Hopefully we can garner enough interest for this to make it into the GB.
Isn't MOQ 150 sets? That isnt a given with Norde on any set
The groupbuy starts next month and we still don't know. That doesn't help. Like I'm sure there are plenty of people like me that needs to make a budget. If I'm going to spend 1/8th of my monthly income on keycaps I need to prepare. Especially since we always have to buy an insane amount of extra keys just to get the few we need (talking international/Norde etc sets here).
Post by: rockydbull on Tue, 13 August 2019, 09:08:42
But I'm still confused. Are we getting Nordic support?
With the popularity of the colorway, the fact that it has stock colors and that R1 and R2 owners also might be interested, I would honestly be surprised If wouldnt make MOQ.
Hopefully we can garner enough interest for this to make it into the GB.
Isn't MOQ 150 sets? That isnt a given with Norde on any set
The groupbuy starts next month and we still don't know. That doesn't help. Like I'm sure there are plenty of people like me that needs to make a budget. If I'm going to spend 1/8th of my monthly income on keycaps I need to prepare. Especially since we always have to buy an insane amount of extra keys just to get the few we need (talking international/Norde etc sets here).
Yeah budgeting for Norde is tough. That add on alone could be like $40 or more.
Post by: guzzi on Tue, 13 August 2019, 09:15:48
But I'm still confused. Are we getting Nordic support?
With the popularity of the colorway, the fact that it has stock colors and that R1 and R2 owners also might be interested, I would honestly be surprised If wouldnt make MOQ.
Hopefully we can garner enough interest for this to make it into the GB.
Isn't MOQ 150 sets? That isnt a given with Norde on any set
Novelty kits with custom colors from other GBs running right now are at 150MOQ, so I´m assuming it would be 100 tops for 9009s L9/CR Alphas.
Post by: janglad on Tue, 13 August 2019, 09:17:09
But I'm still confused. Are we getting Nordic support?
With the popularity of the colorway, the fact that it has stock colors and that R1 and R2 owners also might be interested, I would honestly be surprised If wouldnt make MOQ.
Hopefully we can garner enough interest for this to make it into the GB.
Isn't MOQ 150 sets? That isnt a given with Norde on any set
The groupbuy starts next month and we still don't know. That doesn't help. Like I'm sure there are plenty of people like me that needs to make a budget. If I'm going to spend 1/8th of my monthly income on keycaps I need to prepare. Especially since we always have to buy an insane amount of extra keys just to get the few we need (talking international/Norde etc sets here).
There was a NordeUK kit for 9009 R2. MOQ for addon kits is 100, it sold at €54 (which from what I remember, is the lowest it could possibly go) and didn't even hit half of the MOQ. I'm not expecting R3 to sell double of R2, so it seems like kind of a risky bet to add it. Especially, again, considering how many kits we already have.
Post by: janglad on Tue, 13 August 2019, 09:18:57
Okay Hear me out...Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/SrtRkXC.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/DeOw9mg.jpg)
Heh?!?
Come ahN! You know you want to Janglad!
There already is 40% support through the obscure kit. We're not planning on adding separate alphas to these kits since bypassing base kits on GMK GBs is not an idea, especially if you're not running through a vendor with huge reach like Massdrop. The Ortholinear kit you linked was run as a standalone kit well after the main GB for 9009 R2 had ended.
Post by: janglad on Tue, 13 August 2019, 09:19:41
Probs a bit late to ask for coleverak, huh?
Unless the amount of colevorak users increases 5 times overnight, that won't be happening. Sorry
Post by: janglad on Tue, 13 August 2019, 09:21:35
Compatibility? This is a full set not an add-on kit. LOL. Can't believe how convoluted the mind of some of us could be.Wow, R5?? Whose idea was that?Such as...?
I'm out. This breaks too many compatibilities to be worth it.
If anything it adds compatibility with OG sets since most of the ones you'll find (at least in my experience) are R5. But yes, this is not meant to be an add-on kit.
Post by: fr08 on Tue, 13 August 2019, 09:22:39
But I'm still confused. Are we getting Nordic support?
With the popularity of the colorway, the fact that it has stock colors and that R1 and R2 owners also might be interested, I would honestly be surprised If wouldnt make MOQ.
Hopefully we can garner enough interest for this to make it into the GB.
Isn't MOQ 150 sets? That isnt a given with Norde on any set
The groupbuy starts next month and we still don't know. That doesn't help. Like I'm sure there are plenty of people like me that needs to make a budget. If I'm going to spend 1/8th of my monthly income on keycaps I need to prepare. Especially since we always have to buy an insane amount of extra keys just to get the few we need (talking international/Norde etc sets here).
There was a NordeUK kit for 9009 R2. MOQ for addon kits is 100, it sold at €54 (which from what I remember, is the lowest it could possibly go) and didn't even hit half of the MOQ. I'm not expecting R3 to sell double of R2, so it seems like kind of a risky bet to add it. Especially, again, considering how many kits we already have.
Thank you. Makes me sad but I understand. Just wish there was a better way to do these things :( Kits like this could easily just be stocked by GMK and I hope that's where we are heading with everything. Group buys for... personal projects, "novelty/trendy" kits and traditional sales for kits that are timeless.
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 13 August 2019, 10:46:35
Trying to get an idea of how long I have to get the cash. Too many hobbies fighting for my wallet.
Post by: janglad on Tue, 13 August 2019, 11:18:31
I see the start date. OP do you have an estimate on how long this gb will run for?
Trying to get an idea of how long I have to get the cash. Too many hobbies fighting for my wallet.
4 weeks :)
Post by: jihadu on Tue, 13 August 2019, 11:31:36
Post by: ideus on Tue, 13 August 2019, 12:02:50
Would you consider a partial Norde kit? Considering that UK is already covered, then keys that fit in most Nords' layouts may be considered?But I'm still confused. Are we getting Nordic support?
With the popularity of the colorway, the fact that it has stock colors and that R1 and R2 owners also might be interested, I would honestly be surprised If wouldnt make MOQ.
Hopefully we can garner enough interest for this to make it into the GB.
Isn't MOQ 150 sets? That isnt a given with Norde on any set
The groupbuy starts next month and we still don't know. That doesn't help. Like I'm sure there are plenty of people like me that needs to make a budget. If I'm going to spend 1/8th of my monthly income on keycaps I need to prepare. Especially since we always have to buy an insane amount of extra keys just to get the few we need (talking international/Norde etc sets here).
There was a NordeUK kit for 9009 R2. MOQ for addon kits is 100, it sold at €54 (which from what I remember, is the lowest it could possibly go) and didn't even hit half of the MOQ. I'm not expecting R3 to sell double of R2, so it seems like kind of a risky bet to add it. Especially, again, considering how many kits we already have.
Post by: janglad on Tue, 13 August 2019, 12:22:13
Would you consider a partial Norde kit? Considering that UK is already covered, then keys that fit in most Nords' layouts may be considered?But I'm still confused. Are we getting Nordic support?
With the popularity of the colorway, the fact that it has stock colors and that R1 and R2 owners also might be interested, I would honestly be surprised If wouldnt make MOQ.
Hopefully we can garner enough interest for this to make it into the GB.
Isn't MOQ 150 sets? That isnt a given with Norde on any set
The groupbuy starts next month and we still don't know. That doesn't help. Like I'm sure there are plenty of people like me that needs to make a budget. If I'm going to spend 1/8th of my monthly income on keycaps I need to prepare. Especially since we always have to buy an insane amount of extra keys just to get the few we need (talking international/Norde etc sets here).
There was a NordeUK kit for 9009 R2. MOQ for addon kits is 100, it sold at €54 (which from what I remember, is the lowest it could possibly go) and didn't even hit half of the MOQ. I'm not expecting R3 to sell double of R2, so it seems like kind of a risky bet to add it. Especially, again, considering how many kits we already have.
I'm talking with Mykeyboard. We're considering it. Not promising anything just yet
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 13 August 2019, 12:29:10
Thank you for the quick response.I see the start date. OP do you have an estimate on how long this gb will run for?
Trying to get an idea of how long I have to get the cash. Too many hobbies fighting for my wallet.
4 weeks :)
Post by: rockydbull on Tue, 13 August 2019, 12:39:50
But I'm still confused. Are we getting Nordic support?
With the popularity of the colorway, the fact that it has stock colors and that R1 and R2 owners also might be interested, I would honestly be surprised If wouldnt make MOQ.
Hopefully we can garner enough interest for this to make it into the GB.
Isn't MOQ 150 sets? That isnt a given with Norde on any set
The groupbuy starts next month and we still don't know. That doesn't help. Like I'm sure there are plenty of people like me that needs to make a budget. If I'm going to spend 1/8th of my monthly income on keycaps I need to prepare. Especially since we always have to buy an insane amount of extra keys just to get the few we need (talking international/Norde etc sets here).
There was a NordeUK kit for 9009 R2. MOQ for addon kits is 100, it sold at €54 (which from what I remember, is the lowest it could possibly go) and didn't even hit half of the MOQ. I'm not expecting R3 to sell double of R2, so it seems like kind of a risky bet to add it. Especially, again, considering how many kits we already have.
Thanks for the detailed response. Norde users are easily the most vocal kit requesters, but yeah there are just not enough of them to turn out moq for these kits.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 13 August 2019, 13:48:20
Fair enough. Thank you very much for your effort on this. It is greatly appreciated.Would you consider a partial Norde kit? Considering that UK is already covered, then keys that fit in most Nords' layouts may be considered?But I'm still confused. Are we getting Nordic support?
With the popularity of the colorway, the fact that it has stock colors and that R1 and R2 owners also might be interested, I would honestly be surprised If wouldnt make MOQ.
Hopefully we can garner enough interest for this to make it into the GB.
Isn't MOQ 150 sets? That isnt a given with Norde on any set
The groupbuy starts next month and we still don't know. That doesn't help. Like I'm sure there are plenty of people like me that needs to make a budget. If I'm going to spend 1/8th of my monthly income on keycaps I need to prepare. Especially since we always have to buy an insane amount of extra keys just to get the few we need (talking international/Norde etc sets here).
There was a NordeUK kit for 9009 R2. MOQ for addon kits is 100, it sold at €54 (which from what I remember, is the lowest it could possibly go) and didn't even hit half of the MOQ. I'm not expecting R3 to sell double of R2, so it seems like kind of a risky bet to add it. Especially, again, considering how many kits we already have.
I'm talking with Mykeyboard. We're considering it. Not promising anything just yet
Post by: cekagekh on Tue, 13 August 2019, 14:58:32
September: GMK 9009.
October: GMK 10010.
Post by: depletedvespene on Tue, 13 August 2019, 15:26:33
August: GMK 8008.
September: GMK 9009.
October: GMK 10010.
GMK A00A.
Hexadecimal numbers, people! :D
Post by: fr08 on Tue, 13 August 2019, 16:00:40
Would you consider a partial Norde kit? Considering that UK is already covered, then keys that fit in most Nords' layouts may be considered?But I'm still confused. Are we getting Nordic support?
With the popularity of the colorway, the fact that it has stock colors and that R1 and R2 owners also might be interested, I would honestly be surprised If wouldnt make MOQ.
Hopefully we can garner enough interest for this to make it into the GB.
Isn't MOQ 150 sets? That isnt a given with Norde on any set
The groupbuy starts next month and we still don't know. That doesn't help. Like I'm sure there are plenty of people like me that needs to make a budget. If I'm going to spend 1/8th of my monthly income on keycaps I need to prepare. Especially since we always have to buy an insane amount of extra keys just to get the few we need (talking international/Norde etc sets here).
There was a NordeUK kit for 9009 R2. MOQ for addon kits is 100, it sold at €54 (which from what I remember, is the lowest it could possibly go) and didn't even hit half of the MOQ. I'm not expecting R3 to sell double of R2, so it seems like kind of a risky bet to add it. Especially, again, considering how many kits we already have.
Yeah, just Å, Ä and Ö would be enough for me. That covers Sweden and Finland. Æ and Ø, Denmark and Norway covered.
But then again, maybe not. I could live with that for a week or two and then get annoyed by the wrong legends on the other caps and switch to another kit. It's not exactly the end goal. Guess I'll just have to wait for R4.
All this makes me sad. If 9009 can't get Nordic support - what hope is there for the future.
Post by: ZyBeR on Tue, 13 August 2019, 16:12:59
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Post by: ideus on Tue, 13 August 2019, 16:55:16
Norde would be a nice addition :)If Nord's a reality, you vikings'd better buy as many sets as possible. Considering that beige is so classic you'd get adapters for any ANSI OG set.
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Post by: dumhevae on Tue, 13 August 2019, 17:04:15
Would you consider a partial Norde kit? Considering that UK is already covered, then keys that fit in most Nords' layouts may be considered?But I'm still confused. Are we getting Nordic support?
With the popularity of the colorway, the fact that it has stock colors and that R1 and R2 owners also might be interested, I would honestly be surprised If wouldnt make MOQ.
Hopefully we can garner enough interest for this to make it into the GB.
Isn't MOQ 150 sets? That isnt a given with Norde on any set
The groupbuy starts next month and we still don't know. That doesn't help. Like I'm sure there are plenty of people like me that needs to make a budget. If I'm going to spend 1/8th of my monthly income on keycaps I need to prepare. Especially since we always have to buy an insane amount of extra keys just to get the few we need (talking international/Norde etc sets here).
There was a NordeUK kit for 9009 R2. MOQ for addon kits is 100, it sold at €54 (which from what I remember, is the lowest it could possibly go) and didn't even hit half of the MOQ. I'm not expecting R3 to sell double of R2, so it seems like kind of a risky bet to add it. Especially, again, considering how many kits we already have.
I'm talking with Mykeyboard. We're considering it. Not promising anything just yet
mainly just want ÅÄÖ but would love to have all other legends as well. Hoping for the best ;D
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 13 August 2019, 19:38:20
Child kit prices will be deciding factor. 99$ is exciting for a base. However,
- VoC on novel keys is 115$ including iso support, Numpad, 60% with arrows support.
- 8008 on Dixie is 130 with the same support as VoC
- Voyage on cannon keys is 124 without iso but plus accent space bars.
It only makes sense that if you get less, you pay less. It remains to be seen if the savings are scaled with what's taken away.
That being said, this is a beautiful set and I'll be picking it up! But it won't cost me 99$.
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From my understanding of how gmk pricing works, I expect the child kits here to be pretty expensive and drive the overall package much higher than the normal gmk bundles.
This is what I've been saying. We'll see how much of a good thing a $99 base kit is when the child kit pricing is revealed.
Post by: phinix on Wed, 14 August 2019, 08:48:38
Please keep it in Additionals.
Post by: walie on Wed, 14 August 2019, 22:13:13
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 14 August 2019, 22:17:23
the zambumon school of keyset design, i.e. the best one
glwgb
Post by: bnhw on Mon, 19 August 2019, 19:57:00
Post by: derPuntigamer on Tue, 20 August 2019, 05:37:08
Post by: bj on Tue, 20 August 2019, 05:42:06
Post by: ideus on Tue, 20 August 2019, 07:50:57
If you do NorDe(Uk) I am 100% in!
Snälla du
Post by: chrisharrisx on Tue, 20 August 2019, 20:29:37
Post by: BrainBunker on Wed, 21 August 2019, 01:41:40
Lilla vän...If you do NorDe(Uk) I am 100% in!Snälla du
Post by: janglad on Wed, 21 August 2019, 04:52:10
Is it possible to get 1.25u shift added to Obscure kit? It’s required for the most common staggered 40s layouts.
Good point, not sure how we overlooked this/nobody brought it up. We will add that in. Thanks for the feedback :)
Apologies if this is obvious, but what are the row heights for the raise and lower keys in the obscure kit? R4 or R5?
They are R5 :)
Post by: lightsout714 on Wed, 21 August 2019, 09:31:31
Post by: tentboy on Wed, 21 August 2019, 09:37:37
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Wed, 21 August 2019, 12:05:59
What's a standard gmk timeline these days assuming we close October 1? Next year some time?
I think 4.5-6 months has been what I have been seeing. Maybe on the lower end of that scale for 9009 since no color matching is needed.
Post by: janglad on Wed, 21 August 2019, 13:28:13
What's a standard gmk timeline these days assuming we close October 1? Next year some time?
I think 4.5-6 months has been what I have been seeing. Maybe on the lower end of that scale for 9009 since no color matching is needed.
Correct. Some vendors will ship earlier depending on location and order volume but yes that's a good estimate.
Post by: lightsout714 on Wed, 21 August 2019, 14:26:35
What's a standard gmk timeline these days assuming we close October 1? Next year some time?
I think 4.5-6 months has been what I have been seeing. Maybe on the lower end of that scale for 9009 since no color matching is needed.
For sure thanks. I guess I'll just pay and forget about it.
Post by: ideus on Wed, 21 August 2019, 14:30:17
There is no other way to participate in a GB. Pay-forget-get surprised when it arrives.What's a standard gmk timeline these days assuming we close October 1? Next year some time?
I think 4.5-6 months has been what I have been seeing. Maybe on the lower end of that scale for 9009 since no color matching is needed.
For sure thanks. I guess I'll just pay and forget about it.
Post by: janglad on Wed, 21 August 2019, 15:10:37
There is no other way to participate in a GB. Pay-forget-get surprised when it arrives.What's a standard gmk timeline these days assuming we close October 1? Next year some time?
I think 4.5-6 months has been what I have been seeing. Maybe on the lower end of that scale for 9009 since no color matching is needed.
For sure thanks. I guess I'll just pay and forget about it.
There's no gift like a gift from yourself 4 months ago ;D
Post by: lightsout714 on Wed, 21 August 2019, 15:59:41
There is no other way to participate in a GB. Pay-forget-get surprised when it arrives.What's a standard gmk timeline these days assuming we close October 1? Next year some time?No I get it, it's just been a while since I joined one.
I think 4.5-6 months has been what I have been seeing. Maybe on the lower end of that scale for 9009 since no color matching is needed.
For sure thanks. I guess I'll just pay and forget about it.
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 21 August 2019, 17:04:15
There is no other way to participate in a GB. Pay-forget-get surprised when it arrives.What's a standard gmk timeline these days assuming we close October 1? Next year some time?
I think 4.5-6 months has been what I have been seeing. Maybe on the lower end of that scale for 9009 since no color matching is needed.
For sure thanks. I guess I'll just pay and forget about it.
... except when you're one of those gits who never forgets anything. Then, patience becomes an extremely important virtue to have.
Post by: chrisharrisx on Wed, 21 August 2019, 17:55:04
Is it possible to get 1.25u shift added to Obscure kit? It’s required for the most common staggered 40s layouts.
Good point, not sure how we overlooked this/nobody brought it up. We will add that in. Thanks for the feedback :)Apologies if this is obvious, but what are the row heights for the raise and lower keys in the obscure kit? R4 or R5?
They are R5 :)
:thumb:
Post by: befbef on Thu, 22 August 2019, 07:38:01
Post by: Jedi on Sat, 24 August 2019, 11:46:12
Was reading about the limits on numpad compatibility with the R5 row profile just was interested in some clarification. Already joined 9009 when it came out and plan to join r3. Thanks for all the communication in the IC!
Post by: HungerMechanic on Sat, 24 August 2019, 21:37:44
Post by: janglad on Mon, 26 August 2019, 05:13:22
Could there be a kit view that shows row profile for each kit?
Was reading about the limits on numpad compatibility with the R5 row profile just was interested in some clarification. Already joined 9009 when it came out and plan to join r3. Thanks for all the communication in the IC!
We're working on this, will be available on the GB page!
How do the new legends / icons compare with ePBT handled 9009?
Not sure to be honest since I don't have any of the new EPBT sets to compare it with. The new shift legends will pretty much be the icon+text ones, but minus the text obviously (since those are centred instead of top left aligned like new icons mods).
Post by: HungerMechanic on Mon, 26 August 2019, 06:37:22
https://imgur.com/a/7ZFbQrY (https://imgur.com/a/7ZFbQrY)
Post by: saesh on Tue, 27 August 2019, 15:54:30
Post by: ideus on Tue, 27 August 2019, 21:26:07
Is there a trick to identify the sizes of the keys on the bottom row? I specifically need 3x1.25, 2x1.5, 1x2.0 and 1x2.75. Would the standard kit be enough?No trick. Modern layouts have 1.25 mods and vintage ones 1.5 and 1 unit mods. The base set has both, thus, seven 1.25, four 1.5 and four 1 unit mods. It should cover your needs regarding sizes. As you say nothing about legends, it should be that you do not mind them.
Post by: leexy on Tue, 27 August 2019, 23:17:00
Post by: saesh on Wed, 28 August 2019, 00:33:54
Is there a trick to identify the sizes of the keys on the bottom row? I specifically need 3x1.25, 2x1.5, 1x2.0 and 1x2.75. Would the standard kit be enough?No trick. Modern layouts have 1.25 mods and vintage ones 1.5 and 1 unit mods. The base set has both, thus, seven 1.25, four 1.5 and four 1 unit mods. It should cover your needs regarding sizes. As you say nothing about legends, it should be that you do not mind them.
Thanks!
Good point about the legends. It would be nice to have no legends on the 2.0 and 2.75 keys. I guess the Obscure kit provides these.
Post by: phinix on Wed, 28 August 2019, 09:07:07
I just want to see how thick is GMK 9009 compared to original Cherry caps.
Post by: janglad on Wed, 28 August 2019, 10:22:32
Anyone with GMK 9009 caps and some old OG Cherry could show me those caps bottoms? Compare both next to each other?
I just want to see how thick is GMK 9009 compared to original Cherry caps.
GMK bought the moulds from Cherry, so they're the exact same thickness.
Post by: janglad on Wed, 28 August 2019, 10:22:56
can't really tell in the renders, but is the spacebar also r5?
There is no "R5 spacebar". Spacebar will be the same as with regular GMK sets.
Post by: janglad on Wed, 28 August 2019, 10:23:35
Is there a trick to identify the sizes of the keys on the bottom row? I specifically need 3x1.25, 2x1.5, 1x2.0 and 1x2.75. Would the standard kit be enough?
Do you have a picture of the layout you want to cover? But yes by the sounds of it the standard kit should be enough.
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Post by: GraffitiDecos on Wed, 28 August 2019, 12:12:25
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Post by: hansikhouse on Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:43:10
I know 1 Sept is around the corner but is there an update on child kit prices?
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Prices are up on their site - https://dixiemech.com/gmk9009r3
Post by: GraffitiDecos on Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:55:41
THanks!I know 1 Sept is around the corner but is there an update on child kit prices?
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Post by: GraffitiDecos on Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:58:57
ALRIGHT! Now I'm not sure if this has been mentionned or adressed.. but there seems to be a green insert missing from the base. We get Pink: esc, enter, and insert However Green: esc, enter. Anyway to add this last minute? I would be nice for an all green A E S T H E T I C as well.
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:12:07
ALRIGHT! Now I'm not sure if this has been mentionned or adressed.. but there seems to be a green insert missing from the base. We get Pink: esc, enter, and insert However Green: esc, enter. Anyway to add this last minute? I would be nice for an all green A E S T H E T I C as well.
For that matter, I still don't understand why the base kit has one (1) 1.5U "AltGr" key, even though this kit has otherwise no support for anything other than US English on ANSI (and the corresponding 1.25U key in the same kit is "Alt", not "AltGr").
(also, R3 \| on the addition kit, yadda yadda yadda)
Post by: janglad on Wed, 28 August 2019, 17:16:41
I know I made a stink about the numpad, and in the end, pricing is good with the numpad kit. Thanks OP!
ALRIGHT! Now I'm not sure if this has been mentionned or adressed.. but there seems to be a green insert missing from the base. We get Pink: esc, enter, and insert However Green: esc, enter. Anyway to add this last minute? I would be nice for an all green A E S T H E T I C as well.
I'm glad the pricing is pleasing :) 9009 has never had a green Insert key. An Insert accent is quite an unconventional accent to have either way, so the only one that ever was included is the red one (since it was that way on the original 9009 board).
ALRIGHT! Now I'm not sure if this has been mentionned or adressed.. but there seems to be a green insert missing from the base. We get Pink: esc, enter, and insert However Green: esc, enter. Anyway to add this last minute? I would be nice for an all green A E S T H E T I C as well.
For that matter, I still don't understand why the base kit has one (1) 1.5U "AltGr" key, even though this kit has otherwise no support for anything other than US English on ANSI (and the corresponding 1.25U key in the same kit is "Alt", not "AltGr").
(also, R3 \| on the addition kit, yadda yadda yadda)
The Alt GR key is just a nod to the original, it isn't on the 1.25u key cause it kinda looks too cramped there. It was this way in R2 too. Also not sure what you mean with R3 \| key in the addition kit? We added full ISO support a while back. The \| key pictured next to the shift is R4
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 28 August 2019, 17:50:29
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For that matter, I still don't understand why the base kit has one (1) 1.5U "AltGr" key, even though this kit has otherwise no support for anything other than US English on ANSI (and the corresponding 1.25U key in the same kit is "Alt", not "AltGr").
(also, R3 \| on the addition kit, yadda yadda yadda)
The Alt GR key is just a nod to the original, it isn't on the 1.25u key cause it kinda looks too cramped there. It was this way in R2 too.
If it's a conscious design decision and not simply an oversight, then it's no problem. I still find it weird, though (I'm trying to see this through the eyes of a user who's not aware of 9009's history).
Also not sure what you mean with R3 \| key in the addition kit? We added full ISO support a while back. The \| key pictured next to the shift is R4
The base kit provides full US English (national layout) on a (physical) "ANSI" keyboard (2.25U left Shift; horizontal Enter).
The addition kit provides the needed keys to support UK English (national layout) on a (physical) "ISO" keyboard (1.25U left Shift + extra alpha; vertical Enter).
If one wanted to have a US English national layout on a keyboard with a vertical Enter (either an "ISO" physical layout as above, or an "ANSISO" hybrid (2.25 left Shift; vertical Enter)), an arrangement common in terminal keyboards, the R2 1.5U \| key would need to be replaced by an R3 1.0 \| key... which is not present on either kit, forcing the user to use another key (typically #~, from the UK set), which is wrong (or "less than ideal").
There's more to this, but I don't want to risk derailing the thread over a minor issue. I'll tell you over a PM if you want to read about it.
Post by: ideus on Wed, 28 August 2019, 18:50:24
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Wed, 28 August 2019, 21:44:34
Any news on the Norde kit?
That ship seems to have sailed.
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Post by: missylo on Wed, 28 August 2019, 22:56:20
can't really tell in the renders, but is the spacebar also r5?
There is no "R5 spacebar". Spacebar will be the same as with regular GMK sets.
Thanks for doing the r5, but if the spacebar is not r5, wouldn't the height/angle of the spacebar be different from the rest of the row?
For the obscure/ortho kit, is there a big difference in how the keycaps are between the R5 keys (i.e. raise & lower) and the R4C 2u (R4 spacebar)?
Btw, i can't really tell from the text on this site: https://dixiemech.com/gmk9009r3 because the white color font blends too well with the background color for me. Just wanted to confirm that the obscure kit does have a 2uC spacebar?
Thank you, looking forward to this
Post by: xondat on Wed, 28 August 2019, 23:03:19
can't really tell in the renders, but is the spacebar also r5?
There is no "R5 spacebar". Spacebar will be the same as with regular GMK sets.
Thanks for doing the r5, but if the spacebar is not r5, wouldn't the height/angle of the spacebar be different from the rest of the row?
For the obscure/ortho kit, is there a big difference in how the keycaps are between the R5 keys (i.e. raise & lower) and the R4C 2u (R4 spacebar)?
Btw, i can't really tell from the text on this site: https://dixiemech.com/gmk9009r3 because the white color font blends too well with the background color for me. Just wanted to confirm that the obscure kit does have a 2uC spacebar?
Thank you, looking forward to this
1c
1.75u
2c
2.25c
2.75c
Post by: ideus on Thu, 29 August 2019, 07:56:53
GMK space bars, as OG Cherry's, are the same profile for modern 1.25u mod and old 1.5u mod layouts. There is no such thing as R5 space bars.can't really tell in the renders, but is the spacebar also r5?
There is no "R5 spacebar". Spacebar will be the same as with regular GMK sets.
Thanks for doing the r5, but if the spacebar is not r5, wouldn't the height/angle of the spacebar be different from the rest of the row?
For the obscure/ortho kit, is there a big difference in how the keycaps are between the R5 keys (i.e. raise & lower) and the R4C 2u (R4 spacebar)?
Btw, i can't really tell from the text on this site: https://dixiemech.com/gmk9009r3 (https://dixiemech.com/gmk9009r3) because the white color font blends too well with the background color for me. Just wanted to confirm that the obscure kit does have a 2uC spacebar?
Thank you, looking forward to this
Post by: lewisflude on Thu, 29 August 2019, 09:33:15
Any news on the Norde kit?
That ship seems to have sailed.
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Agreed!
Post by: janglad on Thu, 29 August 2019, 10:36:11
Any news on the Norde kit?
That ship seems to have sailed.
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The ship made a turn around back to the coast! Made with the help of ISO_returns! This should support NO, SE, FL, DK, DE. Please let me know if there are any keys missing or such. I'm not very familiar with Nordic layouts.
(https://i.imgur.com/0eqlMd1.jpg)
Post by: Ensaum on Thu, 29 August 2019, 10:40:32
Post by: RETURNISO on Thu, 29 August 2019, 10:49:45
Any news on the Norde kit?
That ship seems to have sailed.
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The ship made a turn around back to the coast! Made with the help of ISO_returns! This should support NO, SE, FL, DK, DE. Please let me know if there are any keys missing or such. I'm not very familiar with Nordic layouts.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0eqlMd1.jpg)
YESSSSSSS <3
Post by: janglad on Thu, 29 August 2019, 10:52:12
Will any extras be available once these ship? I'd like to pick up a child kit or two later once it makes more financial sense for me.
There will be, but keep in mind they'll be first come first serve and they sell out insanely quick. Minimal extras literally sold out before Dixie could even make an announcement post on his Instagram, sold out in seconds and it was quite a sizable amount of kits.
Post by: guzzi on Thu, 29 August 2019, 10:54:39
Any news on the Norde kit?
That ship seems to have sailed.
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The ship made a turn around back to the coast! Made with the help of ISO_returns! This should support NO, SE, FL, DK, DE. Please let me know if there are any keys missing or such. I'm not very familiar with Nordic layouts.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0eqlMd1.jpg)
Very nice, no important keys missing as far as german compatibility goes.
Only thing worth adding is a 1.25U R5 Alt Gr key since the base kit only provides a 1.5U Alt Gr and a 1.25 Alt.
Post by: ideus on Thu, 29 August 2019, 11:27:26
Swedish, Finnish and Norwegian locales appear to be covered. Someone else would double check them, just in case, please.Any news on the Norde kit?
That ship seems to have sailed.
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The ship made a turn around back to the coast! Made with the help of ISO_returns! This should support NO, SE, FL, DK, DE. Please let me know if there are any keys missing or such. I'm not very familiar with Nordic layouts.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0eqlMd1.jpg)
Post by: ideus on Thu, 29 August 2019, 11:29:41
(https://i.imgur.com/DJVfrT1.gif)
Post by: dumhevae on Thu, 29 August 2019, 11:31:15
Any news on the Norde kit?
That ship seems to have sailed.
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The ship made a turn around back to the coast! Made with the help of ISO_returns! This should support NO, SE, FL, DK, DE. Please let me know if there are any keys missing or such. I'm not very familiar with Nordic layouts.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0eqlMd1.jpg)
Lovely!
Post by: spakecdk on Thu, 29 August 2019, 12:53:50
Post by: janglad on Thu, 29 August 2019, 12:54:31
Have you thought about using R5?
Have you thought about reading the post lol, one of the main premises of the set is R5
Edit: Ooh I see you edited to R0, no we decided not to go with R0.
Post by: phinix on Thu, 29 August 2019, 15:45:01
Anyone with GMK 9009 caps and some old OG Cherry could show me those caps bottoms? Compare both next to each other?
I just want to see how thick is GMK 9009 compared to original Cherry caps.
GMK bought the moulds from Cherry, so they're the exact same thickness.
Aaah, sounds good then:)
Thanks for clarifying.
Post by: enrique.aliaga on Thu, 29 August 2019, 16:14:15
I'm based on South America. Should I order from iLumKB (Asia vendor) or Dixiemech (US vendor)?
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Post by: janglad on Thu, 29 August 2019, 16:26:09
Given that the GB is around the corner, I gotta ask:
I'm based on South America. Should I order from iLumKB (Asia vendor) or Dixiemech (US vendor)?
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I'd suggest looking at the shipping rates you get at checkout for both vendors once the GB is live, but I'd assume Dixiemech would be the cheaper option.
Post by: ideus on Thu, 29 August 2019, 19:47:52
Given that the GB is around the corner, I gotta ask:If you really want to save some bucks, you should get a US proxy and have someone picking your caps while she travels to your country. Shipping costs to any non ConUS address could be insanely high.
I'm based on South America. Should I order from iLumKB (Asia vendor) or Dixiemech (US vendor)?
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Post by: ideus on Thu, 29 August 2019, 20:06:45
@janglad: Your are the man!Would the GB thread render the new alignment for redesigned legends?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/DJVfrT1.gif)
Post by: thornkin on Fri, 30 August 2019, 02:54:44
Laser ALT sporting red Sky Pandas
Post by: missylo on Fri, 30 August 2019, 05:26:38
1c
1.75u
2c
2.25c
2.75c
Thanks for the reply!
Post by: ProlificPanda on Sat, 31 August 2019, 11:36:56
Post by: janglad on Sat, 31 August 2019, 11:43:35
When will someone fix the sideways pound sign?! 3# ;D
Has been fixed for a while on more recent GMK sets :)
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 31 August 2019, 13:19:16
It's fine as it is imoWhen will someone fix the sideways pound sign?! 3# ;D
Has been fixed for a while on more recent GMK sets :)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 31 August 2019, 16:21:23
Don't fix something that works.It's fine as it is imoWhen will someone fix the sideways pound sign?! 3# ;D
Has been fixed for a while on more recent GMK sets :)
Post by: waileong128 on Sat, 31 August 2019, 22:48:13
Post by: xondat on Sat, 31 August 2019, 22:49:47
Why is it sold out on ilumkb.com already?
Not live yet.
Post by: saesh on Sun, 01 September 2019, 00:51:49
Post by: janglad on Sun, 01 September 2019, 04:09:22
Post by: phinix on Sun, 01 September 2019, 05:57:32
Post by: EMC Labs on Sun, 01 September 2019, 06:28:23
Post by: janglad on Sun, 01 September 2019, 08:21:02
i order mine already:) Woop woop!
Early bird hehe :D Hopefully the thread gets approved soon, since I'm not sure if it's allowed to post vendor sales links in IC threads.
Post by: equalunique on Sun, 01 September 2019, 10:37:58
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Post by: janglad on Sun, 01 September 2019, 11:52:31
Just looked at Dixie Mech and the Obscure Kit pictures show Shift and Enter as R3. They should be R4. Are Planck users out of luck, or does the pic simply need updating? Also, without a R5 Fn key, the Base+Obscure combo doesn't seem to achieve a full R5 bottom row for Planck users unless they do something awkward like putting the two Super keys on the bottom left. Is $140 worth not having correct legends for even the most basic ortho layout?
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You're right, they should be R4. Will be fixed! As for the Fn thing, sorry if I'm being ignorant here since i personally have little experience with ortho layouts but don't Plancks use the lower/raise keys for that? Nobody brought this up in the form either, and the ortholinear support has remained largely unchanged since day 1.
Post by: janglad on Sun, 01 September 2019, 11:53:18
:) :)